Cabaye Out Of Swansea Game – Newcastle Have Problems


This is not good news, because once again we’ve lost a player who has picked up an injury while on International duty, and this time it’s Yohan Cabaye of France, who will not be able to play on Saturday against Swansea – and that scenario has already happened this season to both Fabricio Coloccini and Tim Krul.

Alan Pardew – we have problems

And of course Newcastle will also be without Jonas Gutierrez through injury,  and Fabricio Coloccini through suspension, so a few class players will be missing on Saturday afternoon, which could event things up a bit in Swansea’s favor.

Shola Ameobi is fit and could well get a place on the bench on Saturday, after he returns to Newcastle tomorrow for training after flying back from Miami, after making International debut for Nigeria last night.

That’s unless Papiss Cisse is stopped from playing, after he pulled out of the Senegal squad for the mid-week game with back injury, and Senegal may invoke the five day rule – which would prevent him from playing on Saturday.

Alan Pardew gave his press conference this afternoon, and he had this update to give to the local press:

“We’ve got a few problems.” “Cabaye didn’t play for France and it doesn’t look like he’s going to play for us at the weekend either.” “Jonas will be missing, Coloccini will be missing but Shola looks okay.”

“A couple of the guys who were on international duty are coming in Friday morning, so it has really stagnated the week again for us, not unlike a lot of teams in the Premier League.”

“But we have got enough quality in the squad to put a good side out on Saturday, for sure.” “With Papiss we have a bit of an issue going on at the moment with the (Senegalese Football) Federation.

“We feel we covered all the bases in giving them information but they seem to have not received it.” “So we are in discussions with Senegal and the FA about his availability for Saturday.”

“We gave a report and an email straight after the game saying that at half-time he was feeling his back. We took him off and our doctor also sent reports on the injury.

“We didn’t, as far as I’m aware, get too much information back and now it seems that Senegal are upset that he didn’t appear for them.” “Somewhere down the line there has been something lost in translation there and we are trying to sort that out.”

“Hopefully it will be cleared for Papiss to play on Saturday and clear for him to continue with Senegal going forward, because nobody wants any bad feeling.”

These International matches in mid-week, which are principally arranged to make the National football bodies some money, are hardly important, and to expect top players to travel long distance to play these games – which literally count for nothing – is a little unfair on the clubs who pay their wages – like Newcastle for instance.

That’s our view in any case.

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87 comments so far

  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Hopefully the clearance will come through and Papiss can play. Then hopefully the rest of our team will pass to him. I have watched a few games that I had recorded and double checked a few things. I thought I saw at the time that players had seen Cisse in space and purposely passed to Ba instead.

    I know Ba is from Senegal also but it seems to me that there is a purposeful mission from one or two to favour Ba.

    Have a look closely and see for yourselves, hope I am wrong but I don’t think so.

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  • Jan Stavik

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #2

    So Papiss was pulled off due to a back problem at half time? Good to hear, I would it strange that he was replaced after 45.

    Wonderful player, hope he’ll shine again some time soon

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  • MagpiesFlyHigh

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #3

    Super… from previous

    Yeh I know folk have differing reasons for leaving early… but you get my drift..
    As one who is always the last to leave a party….

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  • Super Magpie

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #4
  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #5

    If Cisse was in say Man U or City’s team how many goals do you think he would have scored this season ? . Because for me his problem is the sheer lack of clear cut chances we create in games. I mean other than Fergie in Europe and the Capital one cup, has anyone gave Cisse a clear cut scoring opportunity ? . The lad has been feeding on scraps lately

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  • MagpiesFlyHigh

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Ian,

    You have misread me .
    MFH- if you had such low expectations that is not really saying that much.

    I said he had far exceeded my expectations – not that they were exceptionally low. Last season was above what most if us expected. He has also built a good squad (when allowed ) and is a good communicator and man manager.

    Totally agree on Fat Sam and DL.

    Also agree on motivation… if it was as simple as an upbeat team talk then every team would turn around a poor first half performance. Sports psychology is not as simple as Catchy would have it. ..but then reducing arguments is one of his qualities as a blogger

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  • RonVanDam

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #7

    I’ve noticed this too. Only ones i’ve seen continually pass to Cisse is Cabaye and Sammy

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  • peaco1980

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #8

    I’m not bothered about Cabaye – if we lose a ‘Purple’ we have loads of young talent fighting to take his place……..right Del Boy?

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  • Novocastrian66

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #9

    Oh well we’re sorted. Shola’s okay.

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  • p

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #10

    Probably does not matter as it looks like we are heading for mid-table mediocrity.

    Lots more draws, the odd hard fought lucky win and a few losses.

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  • MagpiesFlyHigh

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    Comment #11

    P

    All we need are two runs of 7-8 games where we pick up 20 pts ish.
    The rest of the season might be a bit of a grind though !!

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  • p

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #12

    MFH, let’s face it, the team does not look like they have it in them right now. They are getting slightly worse, not better.

    Maybe a new signing or two may change things in January but otherwise they are looking out of form and don’t seem to have a particularly good plan with respect to scoring and winning games.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    Comment #13

    Its amazing how easily things can turn around in football,a good win on Saturday will have us all beaming again,just aswell im off to a wedding which will probably increase our chances of a victory by about 50%

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  • croftus5678

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #14

    cisse in all fairness has had a fair few clear or easy chances tbh a few unmarked headers in the 6yard box spring to mind and a penalty the team chose him to take instead of giving it to the player who’s penalty it was because they wanted him to score a goal.
    i dont think the team are favouring ba as such more that if they have a 50/50 they will give it to ba as he is hitting the back of the net more but cisse is still getting passed to.
    i’ll be honest and say imo cisse is trying to be more like ba through no fault of ba’s as ba has by far the greater all round game and works so hard for us esp from corners ect and makes use of his strength aswell where as cisse has different quality’s and can not do what ba does i’m thinking cisse would be best just sticking to running there back line on the shoulder of there defence and stop wasteing the energy he has in tackling back as (no offence) but he’s making very little impact in doing that..maybe he will have the legs to get a yard on the defenders or get the extra bit of power and accuracy in his shots.

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  • Sir Erec

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #15

    I think the biggest problem we have had for a while is just pumping the ball straight up the pitch. obviously when we can, we do try to give it to the open man, however I feel that we truly do not have enough players comfortable on the ball to play a decent pass. we do not keep the ball for long enough to get a decent play going, and when we do, we do a half-arsed punt in the box, to where only one player is positioned.

    i would like to see us attempt the odd direct run at the opposing team, putting some pressure on them. HBA is great at doing this, just when he gets on his right foot to cross its very often over hit.

    obviously a team needs to be able to play within its ability, though I am wondering how a professional football team has some of these short comings. we play at much too predictable of a tempo and style, and something just isn’t ticking.

    i’m not having a go at our squad, i just wish they could attempt to play decent football more often. as they do play some good stuff, but for only flashes.

    i don’t think blaming Pardew does anything, I just think we are woefully short in squad depth and some players are just playing way below their ability, whether its due to tactics or the other team nullifying them.

    hopefully we can see some improvement with tiote coming back into the squad

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  • p

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    Comment #16

    I find it a trifle puzzling as to how shite Cisse is this season after last.

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  • jawballsaswallwell

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #17

    That loss at West Ham was a real body blow, because it looked like we we’re ready to turn the corner and start building some momentum in the league. It actually came as quite a shock to me.

    But this is essentially the same side that did so well last season under no pressure or expectation. This season they are being asked to do it again with far greater hope and expectation, and not surprisingly they appear to be labouring under the added burden.

    They are hanging in there, and it’s a hard marker who would criticise too heavily, but clearly there are problems to be addressed. Expect a lot of noise surrounding the Jan transfer window and as we all hope one or two fresh faces in.

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  • wingspan

    Nov 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #18

    The good news just keeps on rolling in eh boys, F+*k sake

    I wuld like to see this team sat
    ———–Krul
    Simmo Willo Tayls Santon
    —–Tiote Anita
    Oba—Benny—Sammy
    ———Ba

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  • Sir Erec

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #19

    wingspan

    i think sammy is out with a hammy injury 🙁

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  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #20

    Cisse hasn’t been shite. His game has been similar to last season. He is a finisher, one of the best. His all around game is never going to be as good as others, but he scored from everywhere. That’s where we need him, so he can win us games. And with a smile on his face. Makes me feel better!!! Demba is too miserable to be true!! Lol

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  • jawballsaswallwell

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:06 PM

    Comment #21

    Wingspan, good team, but for me Demba left in a front 3, with Cisse in the middle assuming he’s available. Under the circumstances it would be well out of order for Demba to ark up about it.

    That front 4 has a real threatening look about it, on paper at least.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #22

    Cisse on the left is a complete waste of time. He played there against Liverpool and might as well have set up a deck chair on the touch line. Ba is allot more mobile and can link up better out wide

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  • p

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #23

    I don’t know how – by any one’s standards – Cisse has not been shite this season

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  • wingspan

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Comment #24

    Bloody hell, Sammy too!! Were thread bare! Ok fergie instead of sammy for me.

    Jaw – For me youve gotta have the player in form in the middle, if the chances come you want the right guy there to finish it and at the min unfortunateley thats not Papiss. I supose could put benny on the left and drop demba in the hole but i really wanna see what hatem can do in there.

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  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Comment #25

    Agree there. BA on the left upsets him, but he can do it and we play great. And win. Keep Ba happy and it’s not good for the team. Football is a team game though. If Ba can’t do what’s best for the team then he should be ashamed. 4-3-3 like last season and we would win.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #26

    Jaws,
    The players and management put in a monumental effort to get us where we did last season and I think the fact they seemed to get little reward for it must have had an effect,im sure they would have all liked to be playing in Europe but the lack of depth hasn’t enabled that,maybe they’re all thinking what’s the point.

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  • wingspan

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #27

    Plus dembas in my dreamteam 😉

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  • jawballsaswallwell

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #28

    No way was Cisse ever gonna repeat that form, and Demba isn’t helping, nor Cabs in the way he did last season.

    I’m in the camp of play him the right way and he’ll convert chances, probably at a greater rate than the excellent Ba. He seems the unfortunate fall guy in all this, quite unfairly. I’m surprised he’s not causing trouble.

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  • wingspan

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    Comment #29

    I agree hes beeing a bit of a fall guy and i hope i didnt come across as jumpimng on the bandwagon coz it was unintentional. I just think that playing through form sometimes isnt the best thing, dropping him may just give him that extra bit of something to come on and do something special ala demba at everton.

    Form is temporary class is permanent

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Comment #30

    if we put 3 offensive passes together on Saturday i will leave St James’ happier than i did last week.

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  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Comment #31

    Exactly. How 1 player can be given so much stick (from the press in particular) is ridiculous. Also, how CArroll can be praised for having such an impact at West Ham (0 goals in a team flying high) and Cisse gets stick for scoring 3 (should ave been 4 as Man U header was miles over the line) in a team that has looked bereft of ideas. Come the end of the season we will see the contribution he has made. My guess is he will still threaten 15 goals at least. Him and Ba could well notch nearly 40 between them even based on current ratios

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #32

    sirtoongospel

    *claps*. I never really thought about that before, good post.
    What’s the difference? The difference is just that Carroll’s been shit for 2 years now 😛

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  • jawballsaswallwell

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #33

    Not at all, Demba is a great centre forward as is Cisse and the man in form argument is a good one, but it’s quite a dilemma if a player of Cisse’s quality can’t get a game with so many out.

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  • croftus5678

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #34

    yep agree we all know cisse is a class striker and he will get sharper as the season goes on and i think they can play great in a 442 aslong as each of them has direction as in cisse run the back line and ba track back for corners i just think cisse feels the need to track back when he would be more of a benefit staying forward.
    i’m sure it will come good between them both as even when they are not linking that great ba has scored 7 and cisse 3 which is pretty decent for a prem partnership at this stage in the season

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  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #35

    Personally I would play Cisse every game, same as I would always have played Shearer when he had a bad run. And Shearer had worse runs than Cisse is on now. LAst season, Ba scored no goals from JAnuary onwards!! No one said anything as we were winning. Now, because we are struggling people disect things – and rightly so – and point the finger at where they think the blame lies. But for me, to blame a finisher, in a team that offers nothing to finish, is unfair. Also, if we were sat in 5th, and the strikers had scored 10 between them, we would have been praising them to the hilt. It’s the team that has the problem, and the team deserve criticism or praise depending on how they do. Cisse won us games single handedly at times last season, now more than ever he needs our support. Well he will get it from me. I am sure that if the team can raise the bar, he won’t let us down.

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  • APBWA

    Nov 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #36

    My team for Swansea- set up to crowd them out in the middle of the park and try to dominate…

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Krul
    ~~~Simpson Williamson Taylor Santon
    ~~~~~~~~Anita Tiote Bigirimana
    ~~~~~~~~~~~Ben Arfa
    ~~~~~~~~~~~Cisse Ba

    Would like to see bigi start if cabaye and sammy are both out, the three defensive midfielders would have enough to dominate the CM and allow hatem to run riot… only concern is we will be too reliant on hba, however overtan and fergie are possibilities to bring on if we are struggling

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  • Jonny

    Nov 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #37

    Marveaux and Obertan to get a start?

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 15, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #38

    ——————-Krul—————–
    Simmo—-Taylor—-Willo—-Santon

    ————Tiote—-Anita————-
    Ben Arfa——————–Ferguson

    ——————Ba——————–
    —————-Cisse——————-

    Tiote should single handedly be able to break up any Swansea possession in the centre of the pitch, as they’re very unphysical. Ba working in a sort of advanced no.10 role as he has demonstrated at times in black and white. Particularly the second half against Manu when we beat them 3-0. Cisse poaching, none of this wandering he’s been having to do recently due to lack of direct service. Leave him in and around the 18 yard box, fire balls in all game, he will score. It is that simple, there’s not a better finisher in the league than Papiss – in form or not.

    i’m going for 1-0 to Newcastle.

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  • thai-mag

    Nov 15, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #39

    on this seasons form I dont think Cabaye will be much of a miss, absent in midfield, crap on corners and free kicks, give someone else a chance who at least can get the ball in the box once and a while

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  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 15, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    Comment #40

    toonLYF – agree with the team and the sentiment. As you say, get someone who can put balls into the box. Ryan Taylor is a bigger miss this season than we all realised.

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