Newcastle Shocked To Hear At 1:40 Today Cisse Couldn’t Play


It didn’t help today that the Senegal FA activated the five day rule to stop Cisse playing for Newcastle, because he had not traveled to join up with the Senegal squad for the game with Niger in mid-week – a friendly game that means nothing – and Cisse was supposed to travel all that distance with a sore back?

Papiss Cisse – stopped form playing at 1:40 pm today

But it seems spiteful that Senegal did this – and we could understand if it had been a World Cup qualifier – but for a friendly game – give me a break – please.

And the relationships with the club who have Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba playing in their ranks, will hardly be cordial, after the seemingly ridiculous and selfish decision by the Senegal FA.

This is what Alan Pardew said about the situation:

“We kept getting promised that the decision was going to be overturned and that Senegal were going to let Papiss play, but we kept waiting and waiting and it was at about 1.40pm that we finally found out that wasn’t going to happen.”

“It did affect our preparation. Him missing today was a blow to us. We didn’t feel we did anything wrong and he should have played.” “But when you have a difficult period like we are having, you need your senior players in and around you and we haven’t got them.”

When the team is doing poorly, as we have these last few games, you need all the experience in the side you can get, and we didn’t have too much of that today.

And we would have started in a 4-5-1 formation rather than 4-4-2, with Yohan Cabaye being out, and our 4-4-2 formation seemed to work in Swansea’s favor today, since they play three in the middle of the part.

It was a defeat – a bad defeat, but we are hoping Alan Pardew and the lads can start turning  this around next weekend at Southampton – who hammered QPR 3-1 at Loftus Road today.

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311 comments so far

  • Offkey

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #1

    Can someone point me to the rule itself? I have looked on FIFA but cant find it.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #2

    We brought it upon ourselves, City sent aguero to Argentina Squad when he was injured. he didnt play, why couldn’t we do that

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  • Indian Magpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #3

    People call me names for criticizing shola, who criticize players who are 2wice or 3rice the players shola ever was

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #4

    It wouldn’t of made a difference anyway.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #5

    sorry repost
    catchy you ask 5 games well stoke,west brom, chelsea n man u n liverpool now you tell me 10 games where we played great in the 5 to 8 years before pardew?
    when we spent millions upon millions on so called great players and ended up relegated if you can’t see the improvements that have been made since that fateful day then you really are an arse!
    AGAIN i’ll point out our team has been unbelievably disjointed this season through injury and suspensions (and transfer sage we have had it worse than most teams!)
    so the blame for no investment lie’s solely above pardews head!
    also cabeye’s been shocking ALL season so has cisse and so has tiote half our backbone not performing again not pardews fault
    but lets go back to the revolving door and laughing stock hey?

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard)

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #6

    Danishmag – hi, yeah sorry, I think you might have missed my sarcasm. I was taking the mick out of the doom and gloomers. I was being sarcastic. 🙂

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #7

    Agree with Manxpie you cant lay all the blame at Pardew’s door like.

    Lack off investment in the summer & a lot off players have been rubbish this season.

    Though I do find some of Pardew’s decisions strange at times.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #8

    Catchy….Got your message. Some thoughts…

    Lets use your movie scenario….

    Dress rehearsals = training.
    Filming and doing retakes = Live games.
    Finished movie with actors doing as instructed = Club after manager has had time to implement long term plan.

    What we are seeing is the start of what he’s doing, not the finished article. We can assume it will get better or it wont improve at all, but it’s guesswork, educated guesswork maybe, but a guess all the same. We both know that.

    As for the players not playing for him…I don’t buy it quite yet. Performances could suggest that to be the case but not a single word from a single player. I know they like to keep things wrapped up at the club, but you’d expect to see a little more disharmony being discussed if it was the case.

    People keep going on about Cabaye feeling let down after the summer, but his best mate who he is so gutted with the club for not getting yet, is still going on about joining us. If Cabaye was p*ss*d he’s have told his mate to forget it, not join it.

    I just don’t buy in to your thinking. You may be proved right (although I hope not), in the meantime, rather than anticipating the downfall (to the point of hoping it happens) I’m quite happy to keep supporting the team as I do. I have seen enough in these owners, manager and players to believe. I’m just sorry that you haven’t.

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  • MacToon

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #9

    Does the lack of investment over the summer and the players under-performing have any connection?

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  • north_country_boy

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #10

    Keep the faith lads – we are in a slump but all good teams come out of them eventually (hopefully sooner rather than later) – still haven’t lost much ground – only 6 points from 5th and all the teams around us are taking points from each other – we just need players back and a nice little 3-4 match unbeaten run to get the confidence back – they don’t become bad players overnight. Anyone think this might work – similar style to what Chelsea play:
    Krul
    Santon, Taylor, Collocini, Ferguson
    Tiote, Anita
    Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Marveaux
    Ba

    Two holding in midfield allowing the 3 in front to play further forward than of late to swap places and create and take chances a la Oscar, Mata, Hazard and two attacking full backs providing width knowing there are two holders to fill the gaps – prob a more attacking formation than Pardew likes but think it would win more than it loses once everyone gets used to it?

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #11

    Mactoon stop it with the conspiracy theories.

    Remember Steven Taylor is like a new signing,so it’s all good in the hood….

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  • soundoid

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #12

    Pardew is learning how to juggle a squad with commitments in Europe ,injurys, suspensions and young players.

    Give him a break man.

    He didn’t win 2 epl manager awards for nothing.

    2 home defeats are worring but not the end of the world.

    At the start of the season I was thinking we will finish 8th but win the europa league. I stand by that.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #13

    mactoon that’d probably be easier to answer if we had our full team out consistantly but the truth is we haven’t

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  • yorkymag

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #14

    North boy
    Formation maybe
    But not with anita in midfield

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  • manxpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #15

    i think cabeye was hurt wit the hole debuchy thing but hopefully thats sorted in january but i hope cabeye pulls his finger out before then 🙂

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  • Readingmag

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #16

    Let me guess….were are doomed….

    Sack….sack….sack…sack..

    Not key players missing…..and need back up…

    Yes…again not a poor result…WE ARE NOT BOTTOM of the league…REMEMBER ….

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  • magfly

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #17

    Cant believe He saying the absence of cisse made a difference He is out of form sick of pardews excuses.Wish he would change the record.

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #18

    Just another thought here whilst we’re questioning rules of Football. I think the fact eliminated CL teams fall into the safety net that is the Europa league is stupid. Not because it makes it harder, but simply because they qualified for 1 competition, weren’t good enough to progress, and that should be that. Load of shite.

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #19

    Well my hope from now on in is,we get to the 40 point mark and anything else is a bonus.

    Shame like,bit of investment in the summer & we could of cracked on,from last season,in my opinion.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #20

    toonlyf i agree wit that comment but your comment yesterday on the army was a disgrace!

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard)

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #21

    Belfast – to be fair every season should be like that. No matter who you support. Football is a strange game. Everything can happen. For all we know, arsenal or spurs or Everton could get relegated next season, no one can be certain in football, that’s why we all love it so.

    Lets hit 40 points. From then on we only need another 15-20 to get top end of the table.

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #22

    manxpie – remind me which comment?

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #23

    I love the Toon and just cause we`re playing crap this season i won`t stop supporting them but i have a right to say that the team i love are playing a load of rubbish football.
    This doesn`t mean i am a doom and gloomer,i knew we`d lose today with the way we played last week and now Southampton won away from home today i think we`ll struggle next week too.
    Listen,it`s as AP said we don`t control the midfield at all.
    Norwich players showed how to take the pressure off their back four today and played the toughest team today when they put pressure on ya.
    We don`t look like we fight for the cause.
    AP says we`re missing Jonas etc but i don`t see how Jonas would help at all.
    We miss Collo and Cabaye badly but the saints,west Brom,Everton etc are not full of internationals yet their managers have them able to pass the ball and control the play in games.
    JUST being real here and not over reacting,AP has the team playing poor football.
    Willo is championship material,the guy gives his all and it aint his fault he`s being picked for a PL team as AP thinks he`s good enough but we don`t have a replacement either.The lad just is a bag of nerves on the ball and you just know he`ll have at least 1 if not 2 clangers each game.
    Bassong looked more like himself today apart from almost giving utd the equaliser in the end.
    Chris Hughton-Respect

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #24

    ah you mean my comment about the British army and not the Toon Army – stand by what i said my friend. The fact death threats were being dished out due to the fact somebody didn’t wear a bit of paper on his top just goes to show the backwards irrational thinking being drummed into these so called heroes – but hey, not a discussion for a football blog.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #25

    I would tell a lot of you what it is that I am sick of but I fear a good deal of you won’t like it so I’ll keep it to myself. My mother always said if you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all.

    I suppose if we implemented that train of thought then the blog would die a slow death and we couldn’t do that to poor Ed now could we?

    Interesting thoughts put forward, although I don’t see how people can think we were awful today, we actually weren’t that bad, silly errors and inability to put away our chances cost us dear. Had we went into half time in front then the game would have been very different

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  • yorkymag

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #26

    Marty toon
    Agree agree it’s because we care

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  • manxpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    Comment #27

    maybe it weren’t you then soz in advance but i thought it was you who was complaining about the sunderland player who didn’t wear a poppy gettin a death threat from a guy who was in the army and proceeded to call every1 in the army murderin b@stards soz again if it weren’t you

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #28

    I am starting to get sick of Pardews excuses week after week, he is starting to sound like a broken record. He should just tell it like it is and say we do not have enough strength in depth and the players are under performing. What will it be next week, Ba had a sore tummy and could not play at his best ? .

    There are so many managers in this league alone that would kill to have the likes of Cisse, Ba, Santon, Collocini, Tiote, Cabaye, HBA and Ba in their teams and if Pardew can’t get them to beat the likes of Swansea and West Ham at home there is something seriously wrong IMO

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  • MacToon

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #29

    We were spoilt last season though, we were never drawn anywhere near relegation and made a nice change. Looks like it’s back to normal now and looking for 40 points as top priority along with beating the mackems for a successful season?

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #30

    manxpie – I admit the murdering so and so’s bit was perhaps misworded, but certainly not THAT far off the truth. Sorry if i caused any offence but it’s a topic i feel strongly about and have looked into many aspects to form my opinion.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #31

    i’ll take the sorry’s back but to pigeon hole the whole army as murderin b@stards then your a fool
    this was 1 idiot ffs
    lets hope you never have to rely on them hey?

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  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #32

    Well I watched closely today and still have the opinion that with Ba as the focal point we can’t become a better team. We didn’t play great today, but we put a million balls into the box and Ba had his hands on his hips most of the time, and the chances we did give him he blew. Never though does he even look like getting in behind the other team. Never. We lack pace and movement if we are to get the best out of the likes of Cabaye and HBA when they are available. Marveaux has the tools to be dangerous and i would be interested to see him, Cisse and HBA in a front 3. Would be dynamic. Not sure we will ever see it but you never know.

    Yes he has scored a few goals but the team is going backwards by playing to Demba’s strengths.

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #33

    Ha that sounded bit negative from me there like lol

    I just cant remember a premiership game this season were we’ve played well.

    Sunderland away was a good performance,thats about it.

    Get to 40 points then if we get europe or something after that,happydays.

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  • jimiley

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #34

    It has to be a factor that Papa did not play. With him we may have got a draw. Its only a matter of time before we “click” and move into the top 6. keep the faith!!!!

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  • yorkymag

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    Comment #35

    Sirt
    Could not agree more Ba is not a footballer just a finisher .
    Need a real centre forward to hold up and go forward
    Micheal,Owen (I know I know) on match of day last week was right about playing with back to goal

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #36

    yorkymag – the backs to goal thing is spot on like, we seem to play the game hoping for the loose balls to fall our way and hoping to get all of the little breaks that may fashion a chance at goal. No initiative and no imagination. Frustrating to watch from the Gallowgate today, my seat took a beating like.

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  • cyprus

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #37

    Will look at the positives, only! Anita is figuring out the PL, good. HBA is still in form, good. Ba is still fighting, still scoring, good. Taylor is finally playing and not injured, good. Our goalie is good… good. Tiote is back, played well, good. Shola is finding a role, good. Marveaux coming into the picture, good. Sanoton playing well, good. We were pressing in midfield, good. Last but not least, AP mixed it up and risked by throwing in lots of forwards, SBR style, good.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #38

    Manxpie

    What you fail to consider is that MacClean comes from a different area than you and is from a different background to you and the poppy is a symbol of something different to him and as such he chose not to wear it.

    It is every person’s personal choice whether to wear the poppy or not and the fact that he received death threats from a member of the armed forces is sickening. The person that should be criticised should be the person who made the threat not James McClean

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  • sirtoongospel

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #39

    yorkymag,

    Cisse wants everything played ahead of him, so he can hit it early, he gets in behind all the time, and if the team were told to concentrate on that, we would create chance after chance because his movement is unreal.

    Ba however, everything has to be played into him. The team are doing everything to help Ba, but it makes us so static, predictable, any defender at any level will tell you it’s easy to defend against.

    Last season we looked like a different team. The goals Cisse scored were incredible, but he hits it so early that keepers can’t get set, defenders can’t get a foot in because it’s already been smashed!

    We have a number 9 that I am convinced is the future of our team. He plays with a smile, and looks every inch a striker. I can’t believe that people have forgotten the difference he made to us (and the team) when he came.
    But what hurts the most is that Pardew has forgotten too.

    Stop tryimg to please Ba!!!!!! Put the ball a yard ahead of Cisse and watch us win games.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #40

    So how many more defeats do you think there will be before Pardew switches back to 4-3-3 with Ba on the left then boys ? . No player is bigger than the team no matter how good they are and Pards needs to grow a pair and get us back to winning ways as soon as possible or this season will be a write off by christmas

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