Pragmatic Pardew – Let’s Concentrate On Next Two Hurdles


Alan Pardew is under some pressure at the moment,  after seeing Newcastle lose two home games in a row at home against what we would consider mediocre sides in West Ham and Swansea, and no disrespect to those two clubs but it’s not like we were beaten by Chelsea and Manchester City for instance.

Alan Pardew – challenges players

Alan Pardew has today done the only thing he can do –  and that is to challenge the players he has available to do well in the upcoming games, on Thursday night against Maritimo at home,  and at Southampton next Sunday afternoon.

If we can win on Thursday night it will give the lads a bit of a lift, because we will have qualified for the final 32 and the knock out rounds of that competition, and put the team in good stead for what may be a difficult game at Southampton next Sunday.

This is what Alan Pardew said today:

“We certainly don’t want to lose three home games on the trot, that would be a blow.” “Maritimo is a big game for us because if we can win it, it guarantees qualification.”

“That’s what we need to do, get one hurdle out of the way and then look for our first win away from home in the Premier League in the next game.” “They are the two immediate hurdles in front of us.”

The Newcastle manager will also see how his players react when things are not going well, and we’ll be able to see who the players are who will rise to the occasion.

And we saw yesterday that Hatem Ben Arfa did his utmost to turn things around for Newcastle, and the French International is easily our Man of the Match with over 67% of the vote.

The Frenchman is  followed by the ever improving and consistent Davide Santon and third is Cheick Tiote, who made a good return to the side, and he didn’t even get a yellow card yesterday. 😀

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129 comments so far

  • jayphoto

    Nov 18, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #1

    very pro pardew, but I gotta agree with Matty! GC’s a scouting gets a lot more credit than its due! We were and recommended Tiote my Steve Mclaren, Cabaye had been the best central midfielder in Frances champion team for a couple seasons, the world and his dog knew about HBA’s talent from Lyon days and papiss had one of the top goal records in Germany! Doesn’t take a genius to unearth these players! Il be more impressed if amalfitano or abeid or good come good but as yet they haven’t!
    Infact if you look at it, the players threatening to make the first team – Tavernier, Ferguson, Sammy, vuckic, Campbell all came through the youth set up, maybe we should be praising Beardsley or donachie who were responsible for coaching these young lads

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  • G

    Nov 18, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #2

    AP should concentrate on going back to the drawing board on both selection and tactic, so he can try to work out why we cant string 3 passes together.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #3

    Unfortunately I think it’ll be three home losses in a row. We hardly deserved the win in Portugal. Maritimo couldn’t finish to save their lives but man can they play some nice football

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #4

    jay

    glad someone else agrees. I’d hate to have Neil Taylor or Maiga (to name a few among many) anywhere near our team

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  • shear-class

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #5

    Why not go back to 4-3-3 with Ba on left Ben Arfa on Right And Cisse through Middle it served us so well last season itlooks like pardews trying toaccomodate Ba but its not winning us Games

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #6

    cool hand luke, a few threads back….

    I agree. when looking at the stats and nearly 90% of our attacks came down the middle, what other player would you want controlling it other than HBA

    the only problem in my mind is where do you put Cabaye? on current form I’d drop him…..if we had any suitable wingers to replace HBA in a 433. you could always play two attacking CMs but i think it negates the advantage of two deep holding CMs. Get Cabaye in his best position (CAM), tiote and anita shoring up the attack and HBA will do what he does best, wherever he is on the pitch

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #7

    I think Football is shagged ..Why ?

    Money at the top and Howard Webb

    Is Howard Webb A cheat ?

    And do Man Utd receive.. at least… the benefit of
    15 points per season from Ref’s who think twice about giving major decisions against them?.

    RE : Ferdinands tackle on Ba in the box , right in front of Webb

    The world and his wife said pen, Webb said play on !

    We Had to beat 12 men that night

    Howard Webb .. Cheat.?

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #8

    We’ve changed ur team for Europe and played those on the sidelines..so I don’t understand your point of it affecting our form.
    It’s Lear we shoulda strengthened but that doesnt excuse the facts such as:
    Jonas can’t cross a ball
    Willo panics in defence
    Tiote loses the ball too often
    Obertan runs around like a headless chicken
    The team pass the ball like its hot
    Apart from Santon and Ben Arfa the rest of the team have been poor in too many games with lots of individual errors,that isn’t because of Europe or lack of options( apart from Willo).
    AP chooses players that are consistently poor on the field

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #9

    marty-toon

    it doesn’t change anything. only the last game or two have we had to have a few more first teamers in the europa league. I’m sorry, but if you can’t perform with 2-4 days rest in between maybe you should be doing something else

    far from a valid excuse but i think we all knew if the season transpired the way it has, this would be APs scapegoat. pretty poor one if you ask me

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #10

    Great. Cabaye could be out untill january with his injury.
    Fecks sake.

    Is anything gonna go for us this season?

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  • OhSholaAmeobi

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #11

    Europa league isn’t an excuse, however injuries and suspensions haven’t helped. I don’t want to see simmo and willo near the team again.
    The only reason I’m concerned is the performances have been shocking. Seen lack of basic control and passing, which isn’t good enough. No communication at the back etc.

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  • OhSholaAmeobi

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #12

    Don’t know if people remember but last year we started off with obertan on the right (who i don’t rate but he was good at tracking back etc) and best playing the hold-the-ball-up role. Would like to see this given a try with ben arfa pushed forward and a left winger like marveaux or sammy (4-2-3-1). And football played ALONG THE GROUND.

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  • woolerbill

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #13

    It’s not only the players reaction, It’s pardew’s, he should be pulling his hair out and balling at them, get some balls, or get out

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #14

    Ameobi

    i think most fans want that. sure many are content just with results but swansea played some beautiful stuff yesterday. in the end this is about entertainment. we’ve hardly been entertained by the team for the past two years, save for occasional individual brilliance from a select few.

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  • woolerbill

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #15

    It’s not only the players reaction, It’s pardew’s, he should be pulling his hair out and balling at them, get some balls, or get out.

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #16

    Matty,
    That’s true.
    To be honest I didn’t expect a win yesterday because there’s too many error prone players in the team and our style of play is easy to read of late.
    Apart from Ben Arfa that is.
    Even when Collo and Tayls have been there,it’s like we had nothing going forward and seldom look like breaking down other teams.
    Weve just been playing poor.
    I love Jonas in the way he gives everything but this season he has given us so little going forward and isn’t that what a winger is for??
    Willo is our 2nd choice defender and is very capable of doing a titus bramble in every game,it’s not his fault that he’s in te team as there’s no one else but he’s not PL standard.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #17

    as for entertainment, i think it also has to be said HBA is probably the most entertaining player in the league. I’m hard-pressed to think of any player who can produce the magic he’s capable of. Hazard, Suarez, Mata, they are all world-class but who would you rather see at full speed with the ball at their feet, be it one on one or one on ten?

    really hope this guy stays happy here and is with us for a while longer

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #18

    Didn’t see the game yesterday and wasn’t shocked to see we lost unfortunately 🙁
    But having eardrum on hear that we actually played well in long periods.
    Is this true?

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #19

    Marty

    really think Guti should be our new LB, move santon to the right where he’s proven a bit more potent with the ball at his feet. saves money on a wingback and maybe can then finally address our CB, striker and winger issues

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #20

    I think we will get a couple of good players in january and that’ll make the difference and keep the other players happy.
    Just right now we’re difficult to watch

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #21

    marty

    we had a lot of the ball but don’t buy into the notion that we weren’t that bad. It’s what you do with the ball. Our attacks were disjointed, our defending obsolete and holding onto possession seemed more difficult than should have been with our at-times erratic passing. HBA ran the show and even he could have played better

    if this sort of form continues over the xmas break, i think you will be hard-pressed to find many folks in support of pardew

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #22

    Could also push santon to LM as he likes to cut inside and attack

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  • toonLYF

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #23

    what’s this about Cabaye being out until the new year, anyone? 🙁 FFS!

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #24

    Cabaye out untill January apparently. Not good.

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #25

    Woah… Toonlyf – creepy.

    Yeah apparently he’s out untill January with his groin injurie. He needs surgery I think.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #26

    and on the pardew situation, marty,

    my opinion is that i want him gone. BUT he needs more time. sacking him now could have very good repercussions, but they could also be very bad. I don’t like his style, his arrogance or his excuses but i think it’s too soon to call for his head. this is his toughest test yet; fan unrest, injuries, suspensions and not meeting basic expectations. I’ll give him til the new year until I personally call for his head. It’s just such a shame as on a player-to-player basis, we easily have a top six team. we’re doing anything but utilizing them though

    I don’t think we will get three points against Maritimo b/c we hardly deserved them in Portugal. they are a very good passing, attacking team. I think the slump will continue and it’s up to Pards to see how he will react against a very good southampton side

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #27

    ok, so, if cabayes out this is it for me:

    santon……colo…..saylor……guti
    …………anita……….tiote…………
    ………………HBA/Abeid…………
    HBA/sammy…………fergi/marv/ba
    ………………..cisse/ba…………….

    alot to choose from there. no need to panic. when cabaye plays a deep CM role he doesn’t offer anything any way

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  • OhSholaAmeobi

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #28

    Not bothered how we play against maritimo as long as we get the win, get through, can put that to one side, play a youth team in the final game.
    What has to improve is how we play in the league. First kick of the game yesterday was williamson hoofing it forward, just like west ham did the week beforehand.
    We desperately need coloccini back. And perch, and cabaye. Anyone know how long they’re out for?

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #29

    Ameobi

    does it matter whether Perch is back? For whatever reason Willo is ahead of him in the CB pecking order and if he plays at CM, we’ll essentially be with two DCMs again in tiote and perch. not exactly promising

    sad thing, he clearly deserves the third CB role of will

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #30

    matty

    forget about the game on thursday, we will get through to the next round and get nocked out then, we have had 3 teams in our group that wouldnt get in our league 1 right now,

    our next 8 fixtures

    Southampton V Newcastle Sun 25 Nov 15:00
    Stoke V Newcastle Wed 28 Nov 19:45
    Newcastle V Wigan Mon 3 Dec 20:00
    Fulham V Newcastle Mon 10 Dec 20:00
    Newcastle V Man City Sat 15 Dec 12:45
    Newcastle V QPR Sat 22 Dec 15:00
    Man Utd V Newcastle Wed 26 Dec 15:00
    Arsenal V Newcastle Sat 29 Dec 17:30
    stoke and southampton willbe hard because there away games and other than the QPR GAME,, I DONT SEE POINTS BEING ADDED TO OUR TALLY

    i think infact our goals against colom could look very bad come jan 13

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  • OhSholaAmeobi

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #31

    Matty

    Can’t understand how or why we haven’t got a better option than willo, he cost us a few points last season, we always look much better with colo-saylor partnership.
    Been impressed with perch, he’s definitely our 3rd CB, and 2nd DM, and arguably our best utility player. Like you say though, who can we play alongside tiote while cabs is out that isn’t defensive-minded. Bigi/Anita/Perch/Tiote/Gutierrez are all pretty much the same player in that position, tiote being the better of all of them.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #32

    catchy

    that is scary, man

    on current form

    southampton – loss
    stoke – win
    wigan – loss
    fulham – loss
    man city – loss
    qpr – draw
    man u – loss
    arsenal – loss

    pretty pessimistic but going off of what i have seen. ffs the reality only set in this morning when i read that we’ve won ONE out of our last TEN league games. that, whether it will continue or happen or otherwise, is easily relegation form

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #33

    ohshola

    well, if we stick to 442, which i’m assuming we will, might as well consign ourselves to a very bad run until cabs/reinforcements get back. If pards can sack up and play a 433, we could easily have tiote and anita holding CM and either HBA or Abeid in the CAM role

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #34

    matty

    4 points out a possible 24, takes us to 18 for half a season,
    🙁

    i dont see it much better,, is there a better time for the likes of stoke or southamton to play us,,

    god forbid qpr beat us, i think they will have a new manager by then 🙁

    this is why i have been saying JFK all over again

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #35

    you know what catchy

    I had to reason and say ‘there’s no way we’ll lose all these games’ but stoke will always prove tricky and qpr will find their feet, whether it’s under Hughes or someone else. there is a very real possibility, on current form of course, that we could pick up 0 points

    highly unlikely but you never know with this football club

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  • OhSholaAmeobi

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #36

    matty

    agreed, 4-4-2 is an awful formation for us, we play 2 right footed men on the left wing, who both can’t cross and cut inside (slightly better with fergie there) and on the right wing we have ben arfa who clearly doesn’t want a fixed position, and a right back that can’t get forward/overlap/run at the defence and is constantly out of position!
    Add that to the fact that cabaye can’t get forward and play through balls while he’s having to defend the midfield, and cisse/ba try and do the same thing, it’s a mare!
    Our defence is incredibly poor at the moment, something the return of coloccini, the signing of a full back/debuchy and a better back-up CB will improve.

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #37

    matty i know,,

    we could beat man u man city, who knows,,

    last thread,,

    when will ppl realize that is has nothing really to do with who we didnt buy in the summer, we could have bought messi and ronaldo, but if the manager decides he dont want to put them in the right position, they wont have an impact on the team,

    the players have no direction, full stop, this can not be argued against,

    we have a gem of a player, HBA,

    big teams build there teams around such players, we just play around him,

    sad

    so sad

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #38

    any way one of the hurdles is pardews EGO, the second is pardew

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #39

    Simmo is in decent form I think and has got forward well but again very few deliveries.
    He’s been caught out of position of late,otherwise I think we should try keep the guy

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #40

    very good point catchy

    it’s not about who we didn’t sign. would it be nice to have a better CB and a better RB? of course, but both of those problems could be solved with personnel we already employ

    it’s so unimaginative it’s cringeworthy.

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