Some Bad News On Yohan Cabaye

After two successive home defeats in just 7 days there was more bad news handed out by Alan Pardew after the game yesterday, which saw the lads lose 2-1 to a good looking Swansea.

Yohan Cabaye – may need operation on groin

The groin injury to Yohan Cabaye may be worse than we thought, and while Newcastle will be getting a second opinion on the injury, it may be that the French International needs an operation to cure the problem.

This is what Alan Pardew said about Yohan, who missed the game yesterday:

“He’s having a second opinion his groin injury. We think he might need a little bit of surgery there.”

This is a huge concern because we have nobody who can come in for the French International, and Yohan has that bit of class to unlock opposing defenses, and we showed yesterday that with four of our top players missing – Coloccini, Gutierrez, Cabaye and Cisse, we are not half the team we are with all four in the side.

It’s now completely clear that the Newcastle squad is not big enough or good enough to play in Europe, and it seems we’re in for a mediocre season at best in the league,a s long as we are participating in the Europa League.

But it’s good news on Jonas Gutierrez, who almost made the game yesterday, and seems certain to start at Southampton next Sunday, but the Saints will be a tough game after they played so well yesterday in beating a woeful QPR side at Loftus Road 3-1.

We’ll just have to hope it’s not as bad as it seems with Yohan Cabaye.

Comments welcome.


29 comments so far

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Nov 18, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #1

    Get him ready for next season … this one is now about two cups.

  • darrenfletcher88

    Nov 18, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #2

    We have no chance of winning anything,not good enough!!

  • Darling27

    Nov 18, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #3

    Move Ben Arfa into the centre of the park!!!

  • Darling27

    Nov 18, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #4

    I agree Hatem’s better than Messi. It’s about the cups now.

  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #5

    It’s morning again. That means serious football discussion.

    First half I thought we played really well. There was some good passing football and I don’t remember any “hoofing”. Start of second half we were by far the better team, and at one point we had 9 men around there box trying to get a goal, with only Williamson sitting on the half way line. (That’s not “defensive tactics”) there first goal came against the run of play, after a quick counter attack. The actual goal was from a mistake by Tim krul, who undoubtably needs to work on his distribution. It’s the worst part of his game. There goal really knocked the wind out of our sails, but I still don’t understand how people can say we were “completely outplayed”. We weren’t. There second goal came from another defensive mistake, and finished us off.
    Despite what some on here are saying, we didnt deserve to be 2 down.

    I don’t think we were “completely outplayed”. I think our main problem yesterday was putting the ball in the back of the net. If we had taken our chances properly, ba could have had 3 or 4 and Ben arfa would have scored. We were wasteful with our final touch.

    That let us down massively both yesterday and against west ham. We haven’t been scoring many goals this season at all, (and don’t start on defensive tactics etc, the players are in positions to score, we have plenty shots on goal etc.)

    Untill our players start putting the ball in the back of the net, start taking our chances, then no matter how we play, it’s going to appear to be poor football. But we weren’t outplayed by Swansea. We didnt take our chances, they did. That’s it. There goals came from defensive mistakes, and they put the ball in the back of the net.

    How many times have arsenal lost two “must win games” and still finished in the top 4? Maybes we won’t reach the glamorous heights of last season, but we still need to support the team. The whole two games and its crisis mode needs to change. It’s outdated. There is no place for that kind of behaviour. How many times have Everton lost two, three in a row? People suggesting David moyes as a replacement for Pardew?!! How long has David moyes had! He wouldn’t last 6 months at the toon!

    I don’t think yesterday was as bad as people are making out. Far from it. We were missing key players, who had they been playing, we would probably have won. We played a lot better football than we did against west ham, but it understandably gets forgotten about because of the result. Lets get a win against martini (shaken not stirred) on Thursday and then we have something to celebrate. HWTL

    Shame about cabaye. Yes our squads not big enough, but that’s just something were gonna have to find a way to deal with.

  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #6

    From previous thread
    South coast – exactly, if people need someone to blame, it’s Ashley, he knew the squad wasn’t big enough, but he gambled that it would be ok, it didnt work. Pardew knew he needed players, he as much as told us we would sign a centre back, a right back, a striker, a midfielder, and some young cover. Ashley wouldn’t let him. Our squad is not big enough for the premier league at the moment, never mind the Europa league aswell.

  • cyprus

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #7

    Good points Conaldo. btw, wish I really had that seat, last year only watched 1 game ‘live’ at st. j. 🙁

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #8

    Did you start writing that last night!!!

    Your right though yesterday we didnt play as bad as made out to be
    We set up very attacking and the first 10 in the second half we were all over them, they hit us with a poor counter which stevie dealt with well but then came our achilles heel, krul gets the ball taylor is still on after making himself available as is tiote and santon
    Instead panic sets in for no reason krul lumps it mis hits it straight to there lad were caught short 1-0 and we just fell to pieces suddenly we looked desperate couldnt pass anymore
    This is an issue that needs addressing desperatly ppl blame willo all the time but kruls distribution is shocking especially when theres nearly always an easy ball on

  • ash-out

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #9

    Conaldo – you are spot on on in regard to chances missed. 27 shots yesterday and one goal at the death. Woeful shots to goals ratio. With that many shots you should be looking at 4 goals. I thought we were excellent yesterday.
    Swansea looked good after we gifted them a goal. Kept the ball, frustrated us and hit us on the break, but certainly did not out play us or deserve to win. Hard to take on the back of the wham result but I can’t believe people will start to pardew is to blame. We are down to the bones again.

  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #10

    They could of scored 4 or 5 aswell which is scary. Marv should of came on ealier and why bring bigi on when we are chasing the game?

  • jeff

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #11

    learn the difference between their and there

    then i might read your posts conaldo

  • Tsunki

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #12

    Conaldo/tads – cheers lads saved me a whole load of typing there.

    I am going to dangerously suggest that although the hierarchy have gambled on a young breakthrough squad, it may yet pull off as the season goes on and the PL school of hard knocks teaches them quick lessons. We werent too shabby especially first half but sometimes these dry patches happen. Fans start to see mistakes as glaring errors too – the swans made dozens of shockers yesterday but I doubt their fans will be worried.

    All I have to say on that now, that mature dating ad is making me feel a bit quesy gaaahhh…

  • Tsunki

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #13


  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #14

    Jeff – i realised I had made mistakes but I am typing on my phone and it would have taken 20 mins to correct. Also, the fact that you see the mistakes means you read it anyway 🙂

  • Tsunki

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #15

    sorry jeff

  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #16

    Good morning all…you wont believe the dreams I had last night. I spoke with Paul Scharner…even Beattie popped in! Madness.

    Anyway, some good points this morning lads. Whilst the performances are a little underwhelming so far, perhaps even extremely underwhelming, I can’t help but feel we are actually still within shot of achieving this seasons goals. However, 2 home losses on the trot are not easy to take, hopefully when the dust settles people will calm down, remember where we’re coming from, what it is we’re actually trying to achieve and what is reasonable to expect.

    In most games there have been chances that could have gone our way. These things do change games, so yes, sometimes luck plays a bigger part that we’d like to admit.

    Anyway, far too early and not enough coffee consumed yet, so this is difficult.

    Pardew out! *drags knuckles across floor whilst shuffling towards kitchen*


    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #17

    @5 + 6 :

    Hit the nail on the head there. I totally agree with you !

    The transfer period in the summer was all about us chasing our targets and failing to achieve them ! Too much time spent on chasing Debuchy, Douglas, Pieters, De Jong and getting bolloxed about by their clubs and their agents. Ash and Llambs arse have gambled with the size of the squad and we are having problems because of it!

    We need, in future windows, to try and keep stum and not advertise what our targets are prior to us actually going in for them.
    Too many times, players are suggested on here and before you know it, there are a host of other clubs after the same players and the price is instantly doubled by their clubs!
    We should try and learn from that.

    This problem with Cabaye is just a shitty end to a bad week !
    But heh, we,ve had dips before, and this won,t be the last!

  • yorkymag

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #18

    The sun is shining the bacon is cracking in the pan

    Things always look better on a bright fresh Sunday morning

    Much of the comment about we didn’t play to bad is right,however in reality a few of the team had really bad days at the office .

    Defenders and goalkeeper made some ricks ,the real issue though on reflection was our inability to convert some great chances,I did not realise how easy ( in relative terms) some of our chances were from half way up the gallowgate .
    Who ever is up front needs to regain the confidence of last season and quick quick.
    Benny was even better on tv and his creativity deserved reward
    Play our strongest team agains maratimo and batter them the only way our forwards will regain confidence I to hit the net .
    Bad news cabaye maybe the serious nature of the groin injury explains why he has been struggling
    Enjoy the sunshine ,of to the golf course

  • magpie6699

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #19

    Conaldo – I agree with you – we have played worse and won. Early on we were a bit anxious and snatching or taking distance shots but at half-=time I genuinely thought we were going to win 2-0. Then when we started the 2nd like a house on fire I thought it was just a matter of time, till Krul gave that ball away and they capitalised well. After that we were chasing the game too much and laeving ourselves even more open to the counter. My main issue was the number of unforced errors – people ball-watching and letting the opponent nip in, misplaced short passes, turning into trouble instead of making the simple pass – and for once Tiote was not the main culprit. We missed Colo and Yohan but that’s not an excuse, Yes, Swansea were good at passing and on the break but we should have beaten them. Anyone saying we were outplayed should look at the stats: Possession 51/49; Attempts/ on target 26/10 to 13/9.
    I’m not saying we were great, just not as bad as people make out. Ba should have had a hat-trick and our final ball after some good footballing approach work was again woeful at times.

  • magpie6699

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #20

    Another point – individual errors (see above post) are not a failure of tactics!

  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #21

    Yorky- agree. I thought Williamson was poor yesterday, and Simpson was poor defensively, although he was obviously playing to impress Tulsa or whatever her name is by attacking well 😉
    Timothaaay Kruls distribution is poor, he needs to work on it.
    And Ben arfa really is a special talent. They should make a movie of him, just 2 hours of him running around with a ball 🙂

  • Ian Toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #22

    Conaldo- Further reflections. I said last night that we should have won the game comfortably but for a lack of composure in front of goal. Ba was profligate with chances that you would usually expect him to have taken. We created a load of chances and the time to worry is when your not. A rare poor performance from Tim and a naivity defensively by the usual suspects. Still trying to work out Simpson and Williamson and their thinking on options and positional play. The defence when the swans counter attacked lacked Coloccini’s organisation. This really goes without saying but we do need to have more mobile defenders because when Swansea were in the ascendancy the defence were unable to push forward for fear of being caught on the break and just invited them on. Ferguson was a lost soul and it confirmed to me anyway that if he is to play it’s got to be as a full back. HBA should play in a role behind the main striker/ s to have more influence. Word on Cabaye explains a lot . Nobody lacked effort including Williamson and Simpson who lack guile. The way forward I covered last evening.

  • toon1707

    Nov 18, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #23

    Sorry ed I dissagree that the squad is not big enough for europe as the team normally has up to 10 changes for europe our problem is we have 11 premier league players and if one gets injured the standard under that first 11 is championship standard at best. That is down to ashley not spending money finishing 5th was fantastic but the downside was ashley then thought we didn’t need to improve

  • Graeme

    Nov 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #24

    Conaldo @ 5

    Most of what you say is correct, however I was at the game yesterday and the reality was a little different. In the first half, no matter how many shots the stats say we had, their keeper had to make ONE save.

    The movement by our players, when pressing forward was woeful, there was nobody to pass to, so it was crossed, booted into the box, purely in hope. In the end Ben Arfa was having to come into his own half to pick up the ball to try and do something on his own.

    Yes, we applied pressure, wave after wave of it – but what did it produce? Jack squat. Swansea could have had 4 if their No 9 had been a bit more alert; our CF – Ba – got nothing like that service. WHY??

    For all Pardew’s “disapointment” HIS team are just not performing and haven’t been all season. He can put forward all the excuses he want’s – and they really are just excuses – the reality is plain to see.

    He is allegedly, a “Proffessional” working with “Proffessionals”, allegedly with a common goal. There was very little evidence that the players he used yesterday understood the concept of “Teamwork” of actually working for each other, to create space, give the player on the ball some options – it just didnt happen.

  • south coast toon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #25

    well thats not good news,but if we can keep improving with out him and get the forwards hitting the back of the net it might get the conferdence up, we got the minnows this week 5-0 cisse and shola all the way then bring on the saints and send em marching home with the ball up there butts 4-1 to us benny to get 2, cant believe he passed the ball after beeting half there team i was screaming shoot, just imagine if he,d berried that after that run, sorry bout the spelling but school wasnt important when the beach is not far from school lol

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Nov 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #26

    Yorkie mag
    Agree with playing our strongest team against Maritimo. I might of started with the team that we we are going to put on the pitch against Southampton against Maritimo. Lets try and get some continuity into the team- know who’s playing along side whom. Yes second half we missed a boat load of chances as we did against West Ham – but still seems to be a bit of desperation in a lot of our attacks.

  • Sav

    Nov 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #27

    Ed, I’m afraid it was ‘completely clear that the squad isn’t big enough for Europe and the Prem’ last summer. we were light for the league last season but got away with it. No-one was impressed with including the likes of Xisco in our registered squad. These things tend to even themselves out. Only a fool would be surprised at this situation.

  • naptoon

    Nov 18, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #28

    toon 1707
    exactly right some people on here are blind to what our problems are and gobble up the shite the heirarchy feed them

  • derekm

    Nov 19, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #29

    players at a club are usually the first to know when one of them has got a move on the table – if it’s an important player it affects the morale and the teams form dips. our form has dipped, and cabaye picks up an injury that will take his recovery to early january and the opening of the transfer window- see the link? sad but it must be a shedload of cash.


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