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7:11 pm, Friday, November 23rd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 102 Comments

Newcastle have a very important game this Sunday at Southampton, and Alan Pardew has included 21 year-old Nile Ranger in the squad for the game, and with Shola Ameobi out injured it’s not really much of a surprise.

Nile Ranger - back in first team squad

Nile is paid a good wage by Newcastle, and if we can use him we should, even though he’s had lots of trouble with police over the last 19 months or so, and probably hasn’t yet fully earned his recall to the first team squad.

If you think about it, the inclusion of Ranger wasn’t really a choice Alan Pardew had, because Nile is probably the best striker left to replace Shola, with 17 year-old Adam Campbell out injured until the new year.

This is what the Newcastle manager said about the situation:

“Let’s just say he’s knuckled down. I still think he owes us and I said that to him this morning, so I’m not saying anything that I haven’t said to him personally.

“I think he owes us and now is the time to be humble, come in and play football and concentrate on football.”

We hope Nile will give 100% in his training, and if he comes on and gets some playing time we hope he does very well.

And there was good news today about both Ben Arfa and Papiss Cisse who were injured last night.

Alan Pardew says Cisse has a decent chance of playing at Southampton on Sunday, and Ben Arfa’s hamstring stain is not too serious, and he could be back within just a couple of weeks – so that’s good news on the French International.

Ben Arfa brilliantly set up Sylvain Marveaux’s goal last night, before he had to leave the game with his hamstring injury, but the 13 times capped French International is sheer class, and we can score any time with Ben Arfa on the pitch, either by Ben Arfa setting up the goal as he did last night, or this lad scoring himself.

We have to hope we can some of our other stars back soon, and Fabricio Coloccini will return to the side next Wednesday night at Stoke, after he will have served his three match ban for being sent off at Liverpool.

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102 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Times really is ‘ard.

  • 2 toonpanda18 // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    anyone know how many fans we are taking to southampton on sunday?!

  • 3 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    What’s wrong with Xisco?

    Has kept his nose clean, put the graft in, upset nobody and has been scoring for the reserves. Having this t**sser brought in over the top of him must seem like a right kick in the danglies.

  • 4 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    Graeme…don’t think Xisco will be used unless we really have to.

    …he is leaving either in January or in the summer :)

  • 5 t00ntime // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Simple xisco isnt good enough. Last time i saw him he was useless, then he scored a hat-trick, i thought maybe he jas changed but since then i only ever see lee ryder say (on twitter) “xisco missed a sitter” or “good chance their for xisco” but havent heard about him scoring so if he cant score and AP thinks NR is the better option i will trust him.

  • 6 catchy in norway // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    Listen to talk sport ,

  • 7 archaeomag // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    We got Nile Ranger from Southampton – insert your own joke here . . . .

  • 8 Edd Case // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    Happy to see Ranger back in the squad PURELY on a footballing basis because the lad is a strong, quick striker and he will cause problems.

    Xsico won’t play because Pards said he was injured but even if he wasn’t, I’m sure I read something, somewhere about him not playing again for the first team because of a clause in his contract.

    So many first team games = more money to Deportivo or something?

    Wouldn’t expect to see him again.

  • 9 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    Ranger has been out of the first team scene for so long he should be ready to give up his first-born for this chance too impress. I hope he has the balls and bottle to pull it off.

    It could turn out to be the resurrection of his football life at NUFC – I hope he takes it with both hands.

  • 10 mattnufc // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    I heard somewhere Xisco is 1 game away from activating a contract clause where Newcastle have to pay Deportivo La Coruna a fee based on his appearances. He has played 9 games so far, so I guess it is plausible the tenth will activate it and I also can’t believe Ranger deserves it more than Xisco.

  • 11 mattyNUFC // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Graeme

    of course this is all conjecture, but, it is widely rumoured xisco is gay. could this have something to do with it?

    not sure, but if he is in fact homosexual, i wouldn’t be surprised, especially with the good old boys at our club during most of his time here.

    anyway, here he’s injured atm

  • 12 Super Magpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    Bad times indeed. Shows how desperate we are that we now have to bring Ranger back. Worrying times ahead for us.

  • 13 mattyNUFC // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    theres so much about that when a player doesn’t play. think it’s a load of s*** honestly.

    the williamson thing at portsmouth made sense of course, but not really buying that about xisco…..TEN appearances? c’mon. maybe 100 goals or even 50 goals or fifty appearances, but not 10. that’s tripe, if i’m honest

  • 14 mattnufc // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    Well, it happened for player called Graeme Grant.

  • 15 fleury14 // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    Has anybody noticed how open we have been without gutti in the side.I know he lacks the forward play he once had,but he brings so much to the team,in the aspect of are shape and defensive paySince hes been out of the side we have lost two and drawn one.I for one and so happy hes back very underated player and has been given a hard tie of late by us fans.I think we will be a lot stronger with perch and gutti in the side.Think pardew will go this on sun

    krul

    simmo willo taylor santon

    sammy perch toite guti

    ba
    cisse

    Let us know what you think cheers guys

  • 16 Dannyo // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    @Graeme
    Xisco has a knock.

  • 17 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Cant see what difference it makes which side he bats for, to be honest. This is 2012 ffs, not 1962 – each to their own.

  • 18 Dannyo // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    Hahaha, anyone seen this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vFNc3ZzEZQ&feature=g-yt

  • 19 89Norcal // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    If Nile has a good game, it will be a wonderful opportunity for Pards to play even more hardball with him, or else Ranger will return to that cycle of using his talent or performances as a pardon to his idiotic behavior.

    I don’t care if he scores a hat trick, he will still be a waste in my eyes until he stays disciplined for at least a full calender year.

  • 20 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    I don’t think anyone doubt’s Jonas has skills, but he no longer cuts it as a winger and hasn’t done for some time. He is ok at the back, not bad in midfield, but he is no longer the winger he once was and has no end product.

  • 21 DG MAGPIE // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    Lawro has us to lose Sunday so I’m feeling pretty confident of 3 points ;)

  • 22 sirtoongospel // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    I would guarantee that there are a few gay players in every Premiership club/team. They would never “come out” though because the abuse from the terraces would be sickening.

    With regards to Ranger, as big a tool as he has been, I don’t see why he should get paid for nothing for 5 years. He has serious ability and can have a positive effect on our season. He won’t get a better chance to have a career here. If it was any of us we would be sacked from our job, if we had his attitude. However, everyone deserves a second chance and he might just be a bit more mature now. I hope so as he has the tools to be a good player.

  • 23 mattyNUFC // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    graeme

    yeah, to us, but in complete frankness, the average footballer has about the same education as a 14 year old, if they’re lucky

    that’s why i’ve always found it ironic with folks like Barton quoting Nietzsche. No one in their right mind can honestly believe a one Joey Barton has gone through the rigors of challenged discourse on these views he’s so militant about.

    and likewise, in the instance again of an uneducated, self-absorbed footballer i see no reason to assume they’ve gone against the grain of stereotypical ‘manliness’ and didn’t have a jab or two if not more at someone for being gay. does this not make sense?

  • 24 Marty-Toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Dannyo
    That lad will not wanna show his face for a long time

  • 25 mattyNUFC // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    sirtoon

    hear hear. never. whether it’s the players or the fans, not a chance

  • 26 Dannyo // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    @MartyToon
    Sorta how it feels to be an NUFC supporter atm.
    Not only do you get no luck tho, one kinda doesn’t deserve it either atm.

  • 27 AMEOBI // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    I for one am really happy he’s around the first team squad. Hopefully he thinks again about this chance, comon Nile!

  • 28 jimiley // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    Why is it good news that Nile Ranger is available for selection? He has always been available.

  • 29 jimiley // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Nile Ranger a”star?” Who is writing this guff?

  • 30 sirtoongospel // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Being honest the team looks like it needs freshening up. Maybe Nile can put in a big 20 minutes on Sunday. If he did, then it might lift everyone and also give the forwards a reminder that someone is there to step in if they take their foot off the gas.

    A fit and determined Nile Ranger is a massive asset on the football pitch, it’s just a pity he has been a liability off it!!!

  • 31 sirtoongospel // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    jimiley……..he has been injured since the start of the season hasn’t he?

  • 32 jimiley // Nov 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Sirtoongospel,
    You may be right or was he on loan? Nobody knows or cares anymore. To call him a star and welcome him back smacks of desperation to me.

  • 33 eaststandgeordie1982 // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    We could do with someone that can unsettle defenders or with fire in their belly, hes a complete waste of space off the pitch but on it he can change the way we play.

  • 34 headtheball // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    I know why we are playing poorly.
    Pardew is colour blind.
    We are playing BROWN instead of purple.

  • 35 santonthenewmaldini // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Lets give Nile a chance how brilliant would it be if the boy seen the error of his ways and turned it around??

    The boy has all the tools to be a great forward i actually thought when he was coming through at first he would eclipse Carroll but then he got into trouble….

    He can run the channels and at the moment would probably provide a bit more threat than Cisse and Shola combined as lets be honest they have been shite this season

    Toon win Ba and Ranger to score 2 – 1

    Wonder what the odds for that are?

  • 36 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Matty – 14!! As high as that eh?? Its amazing what the ability to kick a ball can excuse you from – starting with reality!!

    Barton is a genuine enigma. He isnt in the same league, as say, Shit, cant remember his name – Man U striker, went on until his late 30’s superb footballer and human being!! Very well educated, Degree I think

  • 37 josh // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    The way things are going at the moment I’m 100% behind the lad. Step up Nile!

  • 38 eaststandgeordie1982 // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    We have to get behind the lads no matter what and if it means ranger gets a chance then so be it stop fcking moaning and get behind the team they need us now more than ever if we dont support them then we might aswell give up.

  • 39 jimmysmith // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    Obviously you want to see anyone turn their lives around, especially a talented young Newcastle striker, who once gave Liverpools defence, no less, the run around, but it should be noted just how poor Nile’s goal per game time ratio is. So even if he puts his head down, he still has long way to go to become a real asset for us.

    Holding out any real hope there, seems clutching more than a little at straws.

  • 40 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    Jimmy, so true mate – but if he comes good at weekend, sets up 2, scores 2, it would be a hell of a step in right direction!!

  • 41 BelfastMagpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Couldn’t care what he does off the pitch.

    If he starts to deliver the goods on the pitch.

  • 42 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    Just goes to show how good our form has been – Southampton are actually favourites to win at weekend!!

  • 43 catchy in norway // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    should be fun to watch though,,

    go on my son,, see what you can do all alone up front, with no support

    back from the venga bus tour

  • 44 catchy in norway // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    i dont care what any of you think,
    no i dont want us to lose at the weekend,, but we will, and it just means pardew is one step closer to making the club great agian,,

    my only wish would be that he took lambass with him

    them 2 have set our club back years :(

  • 45 jimmysmith // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Surely a players sexuality can’t explain why a player who appears at least as talented as many others that have been given chances ahead of him has been marginalized by a succession of managers.

    I’d love to know the full story there.

  • 46 GeordieDan // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    Surprised to read this earlier :

    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/11/23/3551256/-?

    Poor form by Adkins. (Why bother talking so much ……)

    More motivation to get Pardew and his players(what’s left of them) fired up?

    I hope so. Should be. Better be.

  • 47 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    Catchy, why will we lose at weekend? I think we have as good a chance of winning it. They have been written off as losers, by people like you – it takes the pressure off them.

    All they have to do is go out and play, with no expectations, it has to help them to be honest.

    Thats not a dig at you by the way.

  • 48 stuart no9 // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    AP – “he has knuckled down a bit ” tosh pure tosh nothing to do with that at all . that is surely a sign of desperation.if it is that bad, i see another defeat on the cards. not looking forward to it at all.

  • 49 breno95 // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    It’s all PR talk from Pardew re Ranger. Whats to say he even makes the bench.
    Alot of doom mongerers on here. Ok, we have not played very well this season. Giving the benefit of the doubt injuries and suspensions have played a big part but those who have played have to take responsibility.
    As for game tomorrow a 5 man midfield is what I would go for. With the exception of Colo we will have full strength back 4 with Ba leading the line. We have enough quality to choose from to win with no excuses.
    Team to play:
    Krul
    Simpson
    Williamson
    Taylor
    Santon
    Amalfitano (my choice others would have Sammy)
    Anita
    Tiote
    Jonas
    Marveaux
    Ba
    That 11 prepared properly mentally can and should win.

  • 50 nico // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    Only 1 fit striker fit for Sunday. Ranger darfted into squad when Pardew himself said he would never play whilst he was manager.
    Wtached the woeful Anita again the other night. He is one of our worst signings so far.
    We really need some investment in January, but I can’t see it.
    They advertised tickets for Wigan game, £15 for adults and £5 for child. Really hacks me off when I pay £600 for a season ticket. I feel well ripped off.

  • 51 stuart no9 // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    breno @49 why you blaming the players ?

  • 52 nico // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    I think a lot of Toon supporters seem to rate our team a lot more highly than it is. Even the games we have won I don’t think we have totally deserved to. Spurs and WBA, very lucky.
    I watch teams like West Ham, Swansea, WBA, Everton etc and think they look better than us.
    With our current squad I think 12th is the best we can hope for. I can see us down as far as 15th.

  • 53 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM

    Nico, you pay £600 for a season – it cost me best part of £300 for one match!! Then we lost to Swansea – made my day mate. Dont know what your complaining about!!

    Oh, to get to the UK in the first place, well that cost me £900, but what the hell lol

  • 54 breno95 // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    They are who actually play the games.
    Performances don’t just rest at the gaffers door. They are all experienced enough to perform and when it don’t happen they too have to shoulder some of the blame and take responsibilty.
    Its not FIFA with one person controlling the whole team. This is real football with real people. Too often players get away with murder and too many believe they are better than they are. One poster said the other day some think they just have to turn up to win against the so called smaller clubs. I don’t buy into that BS. You are only as good as your last game. At the minute that’s been crap and they have to deliver and step up or get out.

  • 55 breno95 // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    @Graeme
    Where did you go? On a round the world cruise?
    Must have been a fair old distance.

  • 56 stuart no9 // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    breno 95 why do you think the football being produced this season is a lot worse than last ?

  • 57 jimmysmith // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:07 PM

    Krul

    Simpson Willo Taylor Santon

    Marv Anita Tiote Jonas

    Ba Cisse

    Still a decent 11, full of regulars and one or two players with aspirations to be regulars, you’d expect at least a committed
    competitive performance from that side, if not, why not.

  • 58 Big Pappa Cissé // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:08 PM

    IMO the football under Pardew has been distinctly average since he has been manager with the odd stand out performance here and there. The difference this season is we are not getting results

  • 59 breno95 // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    I don’t. It was just as woeful last term with the exception of a few very good displays.
    Stoke away
    Swansea away
    Man Utd at home
    Alot of games last year we were 2nd best but the difference then was the chances created were put away.
    5th place was above all expectations and we punched above our weight so to speak. That’s fact. Plus the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea were poor which aided our finish. Again fact.

  • 60 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    Breno – I flew in from Nigeria – but to be fair, I did have a few business meetings as well lol

  • 61 jimmysmith // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    I just don’t think we’re as up for it this campaign. Some periods of the performances have been training ground intensity .

  • 62 breno95 // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Graeme
    That’s a canny trip. Am glad you had other vested interests in flying that distance as if it had just been for the game then I would have been seriously pissed.

  • 63 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Breno – truth be told, the trip was for the match; the business meetings just pay for it!! Its all a matter of timing!!
    Shhhhhhh

  • 64 nico // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    jimmysmith

    That team you put out would lose or draw most premier league games.

  • 65 nico // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Graeme
    I’d have the business meetings in Africa in future if I were you

  • 66 stuart no9 // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    breno95 – so the performances were just as bad last year as well as this year – and you are blaming the team for the bad shows over the last 2 seasons. dont you think the manager and his tactics may have played a part in that? ok – which players do you think are letting him down.?

  • 67 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

    Nico, UK business dont do much travelling to Nigeria.

    If I want to buy quality, I source it in UK & Europe, then export it back.

    It has its advantages though!!

  • 68 jimmysmith // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

    Nico, not our best 11, but really not that far off it, so if you’re right we’re in trouble regardless.

    I think if we’re prepared right, we’re a chance at St Mary’s with that side, but yeah Santon aside, none of them are in their best form.

  • 69 BelfastMagpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    There’s a right few players not cutting the mustard. :-)

    This is why we miss the likes of Nolan & Barton in my opinion.

    If anybody wasn’t pulling their weight,the likes of them two wouldn’t stand for it.

  • 70 AMEOBI // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    We are the toon we never come to be defeated. Looking forward for Southampton..

  • 71 stuart no9 // Nov 23, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    belfast @69 i totally agree there mate. whos bright idea was it to get rid ?

  • 72 Graeme // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Belfast / Stuart 9

    Nolan wanted a 5 year contract, which we were never going to give him – he got the deal he wanted at West Ham and left. No problem, he was a great player, but it was his time to leave

    Barton was just an arsehole by the time he was released; an embarrassment to himself as a “Footballer” and us as a club. He is happy where he is; good luck to him.

  • 73 Tsunki // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:03 AM

    If we fare well against southampton with Jonas in the side I wonder what everyone will make of that?

  • 74 sirtoongospel // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    I respect everyone’s opinion on here, even though sometimes i disagree. But seriously catchy? Set us back years? What on earth are you on about? Being disgruntled is one thing but you are talking absolute bollox. Wishing our manager out is a joke. All the armchair fans who think they could do better are full of it. Pardew is doing his best with a squad that isn’t half as good as some people claim. We are an average team. No better. Last season was a miracle. We were never going to repeat that. I stand by my pre season prediction that we would finish top 8 and perhaps get to a semi final in one of the cups. That is a decent season looking at our squad. First sign of problems and we turn on the manager and players. Should be ashamed of yourselves. You are exactly the type of “fans” (and i use that term very loosely) that the press love. Most have never set foot in our ground.

  • 75 jimmysmith // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    Nico @ 65 In your humble opinion, that is.

  • 76 jimmysmith // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:11 AM

    correction nico @64

  • 77 BelfastMagpie // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    I just think we miss those type of players.

    I wouldnt of gave Nolan a 5 year deal,but I wouldn’t off sold him either.

  • 78 stuart no9 // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:20 AM

    graeme i do not know exactly the ins and outs of the nolan deal but i am sure it could have been discussed in a manner where both parties would have come to an agreement, if they wanted to. I say that because, from what i heard , is that the deal was on the table all season right up till the end when, someone decided against it, when some one treats you like that, it gives you little choice, you have only one option.. barton was different , a player who could light the fuse when it needed to be lit. Take the 4-4 against arsenal, that IMO would never have happened if barton hadnt kicked off. right or wrong it worked , that is what we need now , some fire in the belly, some one to mix it up a bit, get the game going, give the fans something to shout about. ok tiote ? na he is just reckless, gets caught, gets sent off. we need a nolan or a barton otherwise whos the fist clencher? we havnt got one .

  • 79 Graeme // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    Belfast, Nolan mad his choice, we had no option but go with it. His contract was up, quite rightly we wouldn’t give him a 5 year deal.

    We offered him 3 years, WHU offered 5, he went to WHU with a pay rise. Good luck to him.

  • 80 jimmysmith // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    I agree, you would want them in the team right now, but would you if we were in full flight and would either be prepared to sit on the bench in that case.

  • 81 nico // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    stuart no9

    I agree. We need someone like this.

  • 82 Graeme // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Stuart 9, I agree with you, to a point. see 79 above.

    I don’t have the inside answers. Nolan was good, but he wasn’t as good as he thought he was. He was as good as WHU wanted him to be though. and that’s where he went.

    I hope he thrives there, but never scores against TOON again.

  • 83 sirtoongospel // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    I agree with Jimmy, right now they eem like good options, but last season everyone said we had stepped forward and improved. And that those players couldn’t get a game. Now when we are struggling a bit it’s a different story?

    It’s a bad patch, we all have them. But we could do with sticking together right now. The fans are frustrated, but one good performance to jog the lads memories, get some confidence, and away we will go. Pards need support from the board. He should have been backed in the summer and wasn’t. Ashley’s fault. Not the managers. You could sense his disappointment and the players will have felt the same. The fans felt it too. The only one who hasn’t had to answer for it is the one who should. Ashley. He should have bought 3 more players.

  • 84 stuart no9 // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    sirtoongospel.@74 ” first sign of problems and we turn on the manager and the players” but i thought you said we were just as bad last season ? so its not exactly the first sign is it? its been going on for nearly 2 seasons now!

  • 85 Graeme // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    Sirtoongospel,

    Nicely put, I’ll go with that view.

  • 86 BelfastMagpie // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    Those type of players,are constantly in the other players ears for 90 minutes.

    Barton weather you liked him or not wouldn’t off let certain players get away with playing rubbish,game after game.

    He was a knob at times,but you could never question his passion or desire to win.

    A few of the current crop,could do with a bit off Nolan/Barton passion.

    In my humble opinion,of course. ;-)

  • 87 sirtoongospel // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:45 AM

    stuart, where did i say we were just as bad last season? I said last season was a miracle. Which it was. 5th with that squad was incredible. This season the same players are having a rough patch. Had we beaten West Ham and Swansea, which easily could have happened, we would all be pretty pleased. Sitting pretty with another couple of gears to go through. We didn’t though, and we need to improve to climb the table, but we are better than we have shown so far. The manager can’t be responsible EVERY game. The players are struggling, and we needed a lift in the Summer which we didn’t get. But I never siad we were just as bad last season.

  • 88 manxpie // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    stuart so tell me what you thought of CH prem reign and the football we played then or the footy we played under JFK or FSA or the many years of overpaid players playing shit!
    or have you been this unhappy since sir bobby was manager maybe you were callin for his head too!

  • 89 stuart no9 // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    graeme@82 – yeah haha agree but respect to the lad he didnt milk it did he? i think they ( carroll as well) both looked gutted really!

  • 90 Graeme // Nov 24, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Sorry guys, a long weekend coming up. will catch you later. Cheers

  • 91 Sav // Nov 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    Ranger needs to find the guts to put the ball away, which he has done little of despite his clear talent. He tends to go to mush when he is really up against it in a ‘do or die ‘ situation. If he overcomes that, he may leave behind his childish behaviour as well. Either way, he can expect dogs abuse from saints fans who will have even less reason to like him than the Toon army. Sunday will be a big test of character for Nile. And if he DOES score, I hope he carries it off with dignity rather than revert to type in taunting the fans or parading himself like God’s gift.

  • 92 stuart no9 // Nov 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    sirtoongospel@87 apologies you didnt say that- i was looking at breno95 @ 59 however , you have to ask the question why are we struggling horribly. you can blame individuals for certain misses throughout a game , but you cant blame the poor football witnessed all season on those players. there is always a reason why a team cant perform on a regular basis, pardew needs to find that reason – but i dont think he can. let me put it another way-say mourinio came manage us for 4 weeks, do you think he would have us playing better football with a different attitude?

  • 93 Sav // Nov 24, 2012 at 1:14 AM

    …I won’t be holding my breath.

  • 94 stuart no9 // Nov 24, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    manxpie @ 88 not even going to go there pal !

  • 95 obatoyou // Nov 24, 2012 at 2:43 AM

    Happy thanksgiving mofos! Love u all

  • 96 manxpie // Nov 24, 2012 at 3:00 AM

    good quiz question wats the difference from our 1st 12 games last season to our 1st 12 games this season?
    looking for sensible answers but not expecting them lol!

  • 97 manxpie // Nov 24, 2012 at 3:05 AM

    why not stuart?
    probably coz you think we might get mourinhio by the sounds of it!
    sacking pardew is absolute madness i’d like you to answer my prieviouse post?

  • 98 catchy in norway // Nov 24, 2012 at 4:42 AM

    sirtoongospel

    i think you are wrong, infact very wrong

    set back years i said

    ask your self why you think we will finish top 8 and a semi final in a cup?
    10 reasons we will not finish top 8
    MAN U
    MAN C
    ARS
    CHEL
    TOT
    EVERTON
    SWAN
    FUL
    LIV
    PARDEW
    I could add west brom into that mix and maybe or or 2 others, and the simple reason is they all play positive attcking football and look to win games from the start.

    we have never been a team under pardew, what we get is good indervidual dispalys that win us points,

    cups? what makes you think we will get anywhere near a semi final, ?? i see no evidence of that what so ever,

    i said it the other day, and a lot of ppl have said it on hear tonight, really our team has no soul, we have taken the gutsy players out and replaced them with mice, players with better ability, but arnt up for the fight, put them in a relegation battle and i think they will loose , and right now thats where we are headed,

    you talk about the press loving fans like me? look in the mirror , you will see who they love

    i used to go and watch all the home games for the resrver team, was a steward on match days ust so i could get in and watch the game, tickets where sold put almost every match

    if you accually paid any attention to our team i think you would find we have a pretty attack minded team, there arnt so many in there that defnsive minded players, yet pardew plays them veryy defensive

    at least under CH we played football, and for this reason i believe pardew has set us back years, we would have got more from this team with CH in the driving seat,,

    pardew is a pupet that answers questions that he thinks we want to hear, he did not have to sign anita, not a bad player, but not what we needed, IMO if he had any say in transfers, he would not have been looking for midfielders, we got 3 for midfield, and one kid of a defender,,,

    makes you think

    sack him nowwwwww

  • 99 jimmysmith // Nov 24, 2012 at 5:23 AM

    This side is less than the sum of its parts at the moment, but there’s no reason to believe that they can’t come to grips with the extra European games, find some form and climb the table, potntilly quickly, particularly if they pick up one or two quality additions in January.

    We’ve qualified for the knockout stages of the Europa League and that competition goes effectively for us now into a hiatus until mid feb, leaving us to concentrate on our domestic comps.

    2 weeks ago I thought our season was looking as if it was going to move up a gear. I don’t see why I’d take an entirely opposite view after a couple of home losses.

    I’ll reserve my judgement and continue to support the side with the same hope but with somewhat battered expectations for the time being.

  • 100 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 24, 2012 at 5:41 AM

    So the birthday boy was never sighted…

    …rumors has it he was seen leaving some bar with a bottle of Absolute and two bakini girls ;-) lol

    He’ll get his song today (he think he can out smart me!!! silly boy:-D)

  • 101 cyprus // Nov 24, 2012 at 6:04 AM

    AP, AP why do u use such language? How many psychology courses have u attended? By using those words regarding Ranger, (‘he owes us’) do u think u r winning him over? At best, he will play for himself. U admit he has knuckled down, leave it at that! And if u must, say the rest in private. Anyways, welcome back Nile, we really need you, I’m sure that you will do real well at Southampton.

  • 102 hazzy // Nov 24, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    If anyone really believes CH would be doing better than Pards are living in a different world to me. CH had us playing much worse football than we are. Yeah we got out the championship but with the squad we had you would of been disappointed if we didn’t.
    I think sacking Pardew would be disastrous right now. I would keep him til after january to see if there are any improvements which I’m sure there will starting with the annihilation of Swanasea hwtl




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