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Newcastle 1 Maritimo 1 – Video Highlights

12:58 pm, Friday, November 23rd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 113 Comments

Sylvain Marveaux scored first ever goal for Newcastle

Newcastle 1 Maritimo 1 – Video Highlights

Tags: Europa League · Newcastle News · Video

113 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Watch it again??

    You must be joking, it was bad enough first time round!!!

  • 2 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    honestly thats as bad as it gets…we were supposed to make a statement after 2 home defeats instead we got a lucky draw agaisnt maritimo….the wheels are coming off….
    we are battling relegation this year i fear…

  • 3 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    I don’t think relegation is a problem. We aren’t that many points off top 8.

    What we need with all these injuries is a couple of wins (anyway, not in style) to get the team back on track.

    I’m sure the lads can do it.

  • 4 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    shearermania…it probably is shitty, but it makes more sense in danish since it’s prose and rhyme 😀

    …but basically it’s about chocolate and cake 😀

  • 5 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    jesper… i know the song sort off…my parents are danish……

  • 6 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    transfer sage: have you actually seen us play?

  • 7 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Yes, we are 5 points off top 6

    We are also 5 points off bottom 3!!!!!!

    The problem is, we are in reverse gear, with foot to the boards!!!

  • 8 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    shearermania…I always thought it was your wife who were danish 😀

    …that explains it! lol

  • 9 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    mate….my son is english, my daughter is aussie, my wife croatian, myself danish?AUSSIE

  • 10 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:19 PM


  • 11 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM


    Yes I have seen us play. We are in a bad run I accept that but I just can’t see relegation being on.

    Not because we are too good but there are a few teams who are a lot worse.

    What this team showed last year is perfect if we do get pulled further down the table. We won or drew a lot of games where we were second best. I am sure we won’t go down.

  • 12 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    Shearermania…you have the whole package there my friend 🙂

    …did you keep the danish family name?

  • 13 Foxworth // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    Less negativity people – c’mon!!!!

    Team for the weekend, same formation as last night:



    Santon – Tayls – Willo – Fergie

    —-Bigi – Tiote

    Jonas – Sammy -Marveaux


  • 14 Magpie from Lithuania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    that’s great news. These days anyone can become a manager 😀

  • 15 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    JESPER…YEP BANG ON..LAST NAME IS JENSEN…..i can see us having major problems as we are not playing as a team…with benny could get really nasty on sunday

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Ben arfa back in two weeks max according to pardew on bbc sport

  • 17 Rotonda heights // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    To be fair to pardew, last night, certainly the first 40 mins anyway there was very little evidence of the ”hoof” being in constant use and to be honest that was all I have been asking for, for so long.

    If Cisse’s goal had stood and benny hadn’t been injured all in the same move I thought the 4231 was very refreshing and keeping possession was great to see.

    Sadly second half we looked as if we are not used to passing the ball and it took it’s toll a bit. I just hope Pardew doesn’t now think well I gave football a chance and now it’s back to the up and under.

    Needs improvement but first 40 mins not bad at all and Cisse and BA not getting in each other’s way.

  • 18 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    who can replace benny? obertan? (dont think so)
    im not dissing pards as i think hes a good mnager…but surely the players need to take some responsibility…were playing the worst football of the decade…we need to hit cisse backside more often…..were doomed

  • 19 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Shearermania…that is a rock solid danish name 😀

    …and quite easy to pronounce in English – try mine on for size. You could probably do it, but most English ppl choke on the gl combo 😀

    About our injury crisis, I think it has an upside as well, since Pardew need to make some changes he has been reluctant to do earlier – maybe they’ll be good for us.

    I don’t know how long Benny is out, but we seem to be lost with out him (maybe it’s healthy to try and do with out)

  • 20 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    anita is the worst player ever…. to have donned the shirt

  • 21 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    jesper i can pronounce your last name perfectly as there is a brewery in my old home town (haderslev) with that name and my old folks used to live very close

  • 22 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    Rotonda – I think it’s good that some people can see there was positives. No way maritimo would have came back from 2-0, and we would probably have went on and scored more.
    I think tactically,pardew got it right with the 4231, and he stuck with it through the game. It was the injuries and the inexperience of the youngsters on the pitch that cost us the win.
    First half there was good football, second half we lost that attacking flair due to players underperforming.

    As Ed said before. We have 5 games in 17 days or something coming up. The players and Pardew need our support now more than ever, not booing when we just qualified from the group.

    Oh, and the next episode of annoying people who sit behind me will come tonight. I know how much you all look forward to it.

  • 23 shearermania // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    conldo youre a star im in awe…..all haill the the tool……

  • 24 Jonny // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:44 PM


    That will probably be the team.

  • 25 Jonny // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Ba instead of cisse.

  • 26 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    The average age of our team yesterday must have been 22. I reckon the average age of our supporters must have been less than half of that. I’ve never heard the blaydon races sung 3 octaves higher than normal before. And when a group of kids were singing toon toon black and white army, sounded like a cross between a whistle and a cat being attacked.

    Anyway, I’m spoiling the story for later…

  • 27 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    Johnny – I think he will play fergie instead of sammy. Or is he injured? I’m not sure.
    Anyway, they are pretty much the only players we have left.

  • 28 santonthenewmaldini // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    Yeah the 1st half there were lots of positives but we seemed to lose confidence when Arfa went off and well Krul started hitting it long at every opportunity was one of the other reasons why we struggled to keep possession!!!

    Its going to be interesting to see what team we put out on Sunday i honestly think Pardew will go for 5 in midfield and try to suffocate the teams in the midfield Southampton and Stoke are long ball teams who dont keep possession well so us playing 442 will fall into their hands if we keep it tight in midfield we can outnumber them and maybe get the wins?

    We need Tiote and Jonas to play and play well totally hounding teams off the ball at every opportunity although both players are a yellow card away from suspension so its a tightrope!

  • 29 rainrix // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Goodish news on HBA

  • 30 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Don’t worry the ‘Lone Ranger’ will come to the rescue! and his sidekick ‘Tonto’ Tiote

  • 31 lesh // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    Off thread but the festering sore surfaces anywhere:

    WTF’s going on here? There appears to be a swell of opinion that Pardew should go and realistiaclly, that ain’t gonna happen.

    Anybody with half a brain should see that he was severly undermined in the summer when the squad strengthening that should have taken place didn’t – despite the advice that MA and Llambias were given. He’s been placed in an untenable situation where fans and the owner expects so much (Prem survival at the minimum) with an inadequate squad which as we can see has been decimated by injusry and suspensions.

    Had the sqaud been bigger having been supplemented by players of adequate quality, then we wouldn’t have been in the situation we’re in.

    I’ve no doubt that there will be in-bound activity in January but the drawback with such timing is that new players are expected to hit the ground running.

    Let’s be fair to Pardew and give him support along with the on-field players and he’ll be under a darn sight less pressure of expectation than he is now. He is after all a human being and will have a limit of tolerance. Losing him mid-term would be a travesty and you can bet your boots, relegation’d be staring us in the face….. again.

    Is that what you doom-mongers want? If so, may I suggest that you reflect on the recent years.

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM


    I think some of the problems can be put down to not strengthening in the summer.

    More good players certainly wouldn’t hurt.

    The problem with Pardew is that even before injuries this year he didn’t get them playing well.

    I think a lot of that is down to most players not even doing the basics right, like simple passes going astray. But pardew did contribute a bit by the team set up I think, not getting the best out of keys players.

    But I like him and I think he will learn from the mistakes he made and will get the players back up to speed.

  • 33 mattnufc // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    I don’t want Pardew out, just want him to realise he implements terrible football and we need more/better players!

  • 34 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    I in the Gallowgate and the corner last night was taken over kids and most of the singing was about Danny’s of the field antics and Catermoles father

  • 35 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Transfer sage

    Here’s a little list of managers who we could get and who I think would be better than Pardew. Some of you may tear me to pieces but that’s what lists are for, to be dissected and talked about. Any additions?:

    Martin Jol (Fulham)
    Laurent Blanc (unattached)
    Ole Gunnar Solksjaer (Molde)
    Julio Cesar Falcioni (Boca)
    Paulo Di Canio (Swindon)
    Luciano Spalleti (ST Petersburg)
    Marcelo Bielsa (Bilbao)
    Frank De Boer (Ajax)
    John Van Der Brom (Anderlecht)
    Alain Casanova (Toulouse)
    Rudi Garcia (Lille)

    I’m trying to think of more!’

  • 36 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM


    It’s clear pardew was told one thing and given another in the transfer market.

    He said he needed a goal scoring centre back. One don’t arrive.

    He said on radio Newcastle phone in that cabayes friend (debuchy) would be joining and he didnt.

    That moron that is llambias went to holland to negotiate and all he managed to do was waste money on air fare and a hotel.

    For me the person we should consider sacking first is llambias. We need a chairman who knows about football and actually has an interest in it. Appoint somebody in that role who has expertise in football.

    Ashley would never have somebody in charge of sports direct with no retail experience.

  • 37 soundoid // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Larwo’s got us down to lose, so that’s a win right their my friends.

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Pard who

    Managers at Lille, Fulham, Ajax and Bilbao I believe would either see us as a backwards or sideways step. I wouldn’t have thought they would sign for us.

    I don’t know enough or have seen enough of others to know if it would be good to appoint them.

    I have no doubt better managers are available, but some, like ole gunner are a bit of a gamble. Could pay off but you never let know just yet

  • 39 Indian Magpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    Walter Mazzari

  • 40 Indian Magpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    why cant we get some1 who played for the club like Athletico madrid did. like sevilla.

    Rob lee
    phillipe albert

  • 41 Indian Magpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    other examples

    Thomas tuchel
    Felix magath – won titles with Stutgart, Wolfsburg, did well with schalke and Bayern

  • 42 Munster Mag // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    So now we are saying that Ashley is not only the muppet who messed up so much, from JFK to due diligence, and now we all agree that his appointed side kick is a tool. So can we now say that he is indeed a bit of a fool and stop making him out to be the saviour of NUFC a la Billsy Boy ?

  • 43 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Transfer sage

    These managers would allow us to play better football and with the better football we would be a much better team.

    How can that be a backward/sidewards step??

  • 44 Munster Mag // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    I dont want to get rid opf pardew – but ask me at the end of the season. As for Solksjaer ( why ? ) and Di Canio ( doesnt have the mentality to manage a big club – too combustible ) ….why wud u want these guys???

  • 45 Munster Mag // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    I think Lawro might re right … will we pose a “fret” ? 🙂

  • 46 Indian Magpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    I would prefer Otmar hitsfeld

  • 47 Munster Mag // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Pard Who , better football does not mean better manager. Ossie Ardiles anyone??

  • 48 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:28 PM


    Southampton are not a long ball team, have you watched tham at all?

  • 49 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:28 PM


    Ashley has done nothing special for us. He is no better/worse than your avergae prem league owner.

    Only a few with huge bank accounts (chelsea, city) or established revenue (man utd) send a lot more

    Arsenal only spend more because they sell at least 1 top player a year.

  • 50 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Ashley, Llambias and Pardew are all poor at thier respected jobs.

    Ashley will not leave unless it’s viable so he needs to see what’s going on.

    Retail and football are worlds apart bit fundemantaly they are similar. If people aren’t doing a good job with the quality they’ve got they get fired.

    Llambias and Pardew have both failed, time for a cull.

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    alan pard who

    not a backward or sidewards step for us…i meant for the manager

  • 52 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:31 PM


    I fail to see the correlation?!

    Do you mean that playing better football doesn’t mean that the manager is necessarily good?

    Or do you mean that a good manager doesn’t necessarily mean good football?

    I understand if you mean the latter but anything has to be better than the football we have.

    Heck, I’d even take Lee Clarke!

  • 53 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    I think the best bit of advice is to acknowledge that NUFC appointed Alan Pardew as the manager of NUFC and hopefully, for the foreseeable future, that will remain the situation.

    There is absolutely nothing to be gained by throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It’s a losing solution and kills long term stability stone dead. I think we have no option but to support him and the players to get us as high up the table as is possible – given the constraints he is working under.

    Nobody said it would be easy!!

  • 54 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:35 PM


    How can you possibly take a team on small budget 5th in the premiership while being poor at your job, i don’t understand

    We have just got through next stage in europe and the season is far from over, everybody has bad spells in every facet of life, get over it and try to acquire that useful trait called patience

  • 55 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:35 PM


    Oh yeah, I see.

    Well I agree with you but you could say that to Anita, Tiote, Ben Arfa, Cabaye etc…

    NUFC are a big draw and I think we could attract them as we have all the ingredients for greatness just a poor management team from Pardew upwards.

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    alan pard who

    not sure sure, some of those manage champions league teams, it’s different for players as they could use it to advertise themselves in a top league and make money, those managers will be making a bigger name for themselves in the champs league than with us.

    jol manages fulham who are in our league and have spent more than us this year so probably a pointless move him coming here.

  • 57 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Fray Bentos

    As I’ve said before, Pardews doesn’t play football he plays percentages.

    He starts every game with the ethic to not concede. The ounos should be on scoring asthat gets you the 3 points.

    He was lucky last year as we struggled in every game. A bit of magic here and a slice of luck there and you turn performances that warranted a 17th-12th place finish into 5th and every one gets so far lost up Pardews crevice that they are blindsided by the truth.

    Take away the leauge finish of last season and concentrate purely on the footballing quality and you’ll see despair.

    He’s playing percentages this season but his hard to beat team are being outplayed and beaten.

    Poor manager and not worthy of our club.

  • 58 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Not every game, most games

    My apologies

  • 59 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Ok I see where you’re coming from. Do you not think we could nick Laurent Blanc?

    That’s my call.

    A bit far fetched but within the realms of plausibility!

  • 60 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:43 PM


    There is no such thing as being lucky for 38 games, think about it

  • 61 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM


    “He starts every game with the ethic to not concede. The ounos should be on scoring asthat gets you the 3 points”

    Haha Every team in the league has the ethic to not concede and yes Pardews team did score last season, thats why we finsihed 5th ffs

  • 62 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM


    Do you think we were a long ball team last season?

  • 63 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM


    Course you can get lucky.

    Just as you would say having so many injuries is unlucky.

    Luck isn’t finite. It is a reoccurring event that in theory is unlimited in its potential to effect any given situation.

    How else would you describ being outclassed, outplayed, outthought and yet still winning 2-1.

    Think about WBA this season. Was that lucky?

    I’ll tell you what give me a chance to reflect over every Pardew game he has had in charge and I can guarantee that above 80% of our wins were lucky and most our losses were poor management.

  • 64 mattyNUFC // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    and fray

    there is no way newcastle is on a ‘small budget’.

  • 65 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    When Hughton was dismissed, he had overseen a tally of 19pts from 16 games, in our first season back in the PL with an inferior squad to now.

    So, 5pts from the next 4 games is it Pardwho, just to match the record not deemed good enough, in a season which we were only targeting the avoidance of relegation.

  • 66 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    alan pard who

    I am not sure. I haven’t thought about it much because I think pardew will turn it around. Although I don’t know why I think this as he has never been great at past clubs.


    You’re right, you can’t be lucky over a season, 5-10 games maybe but not all 38.
    I think a lot of people confuse defensive (possibly boring) tactics with having no tactics at all.

    Maybe we could/should be playing better but as far as this season goes the players haven’t put 4/5 simple passes together without making a mistake so not sure how much pardew is at fault.

  • 67 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM


    To finish 5th we were on a small budget yes


    Luck works both ways, you can’t only win through a whole season by being lucky, the odds on that happening are stupidly slim, there is something else involved namely pardew and the players

  • 68 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    @Tranfer Sage

    Always a balanced poster

  • 69 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    Alan pard who

    I guess your right, it is possible to be lucky every single game, but that is very very unlikely, if you know what I mean.

    What do you consider luck? I think that winning but playing badly is a skill. it is something man utd have done for years (not as many games as us but in some) it requires a good goal keeper, a tough defence who dont give up and a solid character to keep plugging away.

    You obviously need more than that for continuous success but it will improve I think.

  • 70 chris_g // Nov 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM says:
    Don’t worry the ‘Lone Ranger’ will come to the rescue! and his sidekick ‘Tonto’ Tiote

    and mounted on his trusty silver-haired stallion:
    “A fiery coach with the speed of light, a cloud of dust and a hearty “Hi Yo Pardew!”

    Sorry, I couldn’t resist it
    I’ll get me coat 🙁

  • 71 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Fray Bentos

    Last season we were a long ball team until Ben Arfa came into the squad and we tried to knock it about. Then Cisse came in and we then we played a few ‘direct’ games until WBA away then we saw magic.

    Also most teams first priority is to score and then hope not to concede but remaining totally aware that they’ll have to score again.

    Pardew shuts up shop, hopes for a goal and then defends it.

    Hence why we haven’t scored more than 3 in nearly 2 years and why we have never come back from behind to win under Pardew.

  • 72 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    I don’t think we were a long ball team last season, but we probably played long ball at times when it was beneficial

    Many posters on here have over simplified football to just long and short ball

    If you look back at Keegan’s football it was direct but it wasn’t long ball, it was just basically attack fast in most cases whether that being a short pass or a long pass, it certianly wasn’t possession style football.

    Posters are connecting short passing football as equating to attractiveness and effectiveness, i don’t think it does, look where liverpool are this season, attempting a short pass posession game does not mean success, if it was the case every manager would be doing it, its just not that easy.

    We have played alot of long ball this season but i believe the majority is because we have been forced to, not a tactiacal gameplan. Yeah there is somehting wrong but last 2 games have showed its getting better

  • 73 Indian Magpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    Needs to be quiet

  • 74 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM


    You really are obsessed with coming from behind aren’t you?!?!

  • 75 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM


    Swansea (last year) and arsenal both play short, passing games.

    Arsenal are good to watch as they attack with pace. Swansea were terrible to watch last year as it took them so long to build an attack.

    Stoke hump it long and it’s boring where west ham go long and have a lot of support around Carroll and pace out wide so it’s a bit more interesting.

    Your spot on that a passing game doesn’t always make an entertaining game.

  • 76 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    I’m sure everyone on the blog has heard of the expression ‘you make your own luck’.

    For me Pardew sets up the team to be difficult to be beaten and then be lucky.

    Somebody would say that when you play and win blackjack you get lucky. Are you lucky to actually play blackjack in the first place? No you play the odds and hope luck pulls through.

    Pardew gambles with every game he plays. He doesn’t need to as he has the quality to win with skill, ability and footballing prowess alone. Yes luck will always be a factor but it doesn’t have to be the main factor in how you get a win. It shouldn’t define us as a team.

    If we played good football more often than not we’d wing because of it. Some games we’d be unlucky, others lucky, that’s a given, but intimately if your good at something you’ll win at it.

    I’m not a 100 metre runner but if I raced usain bolt I could never win so Id set up the race so I could be lucky (NUFC vs man utd).

    However my tactics would change if I raced against a ll12 year old school girl. I’d let my power, strenghth and pace do the talking (NUFC vs Martimo).

    Pardew would have the same tactics in both race.

  • 77 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:17 PM


    Wow. Well done.

    You were being beat intellectually so resorted to that statement.

    Clever boy. Hope you feel like a big boy now you made a funny.


  • 78 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM


    Im sorry but im leaving this ‘lucky’ debate, i can’t deal with the comment “setting your team up to be lucky” thats utter madness

    @transfer sage

    Many might dissagree with me here but one of the most entertaining teams of recent years for me was suprisingly leeds before their downfall, for a couple of seasons, i think one being in the Champions League they played an effective direct very english game (similar to keegans), i thought it was highly entertaining in its pace and it was neither short or long

  • 79 fray bentos // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM


    It was a joke, my actual reponse was post 72

    jeez! you legion of doomers really need to get a sense of humour

  • 80 Indian Magpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Arsenal have signed a new deal with Emirates worth 30 million a year.

    The best we can do is 8 million, not that its bad just it cd be better

  • 81 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM


    there are very few teams who can win just playing one style (barcelona, arsenal (even though they havent won for 7 years)

    Teams like madrid mix technical play with quick wingers, a fair few goals come from a long ball from the back to ronaldo who runs through to score.

    Top teams can mix it up. Ideally we need to keep the ball better and use it better but we are by no means the worst team as some would suggest.

  • 82 nick_9 // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Anyone believe you make your own luck to an extent? Ben Arfa gaining a penalty against Norwich was lucky in the sense he attempted something and it came off, it doesn’t always. Cisse blazing the penalty over could be classed as unlucky when he had such a good record last season, I say confidence played a part.

    Hoof ball isn’t always a bad option, I’ve seen many teams successful hoof a good 60 yard ball directly to a winger in space. Our trouble is the hoofing very rarely amounts to anything as our players are under pressure from the opposition or the hoof is an aimless hoof anywhere, a get rid ‘av it’. We often surrender pressure when we hoof it but when we are looking for a goal we seem to revert to hoofing it more because we believe its more direct and likely to achieve something.

    For me good football is played at a good tempo, with pace, movement and assertive passing. As a team we have no movement off the ball as nobody seems to want it other than a couple of players, this often leads to hoofing it. We rarely use our pace as we are to scared to commit men forward for the fear of conceding. Good teams do not sit back on a lead unless it is very late on in the game, we do sit back and I see that as a sign of a weak team.

    I don’t want Pardew sacked because I fully believe he is protecting the players with his after match comments and the owners lack of ambition/ purse strings being right. We all know he is a yes man so what other manager would come and work for someone like Ashley? Until we are making 15 million profit a season we won’t be seeing three good first teamers come in unless they are another gem ( I hope they are, money doesn’t always mean success as we know). we all slated Enrique when he left but I think his comments were very telling about our owner.

    I do believe this team isn’t playing to its full potential so Pardew and the other coaches need to work on it and get it right, we should be playing much better than we are. He’s used up most of the reasons in his excuse book and the fans are demanding results so its nearing boiling point.

  • 83 G // Nov 23, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    Whilst I agree that something isn’t right at home, I don’t think sacking AP is the answer. Looking at MA/DL’s record of appointing managers looking for a new one would be squeaky bum time! We need to look back to basics and get the team playing together again. Too many individuals not playing the team game going on. Currently, at times in the last 4 home games I can honestly say we have been playing football worse than our relegation season. Not consistently, but alarmingly often.

  • 84 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM


    They play champions league every year though so a lot of exposure. They are on tv more than us so again more exposure.

    Also they have a larger world wide following so attract a larger audience.

    Our deal is about par…what confuses me is how Sunderland have manger to get 20mil a year from invest in Africa

  • 85 archaeomag // Nov 23, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    – it’s the Curse of W@nga. . .

  • 86 stuart no9 // Nov 23, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    first of all – i am not a fan of pardew nor am i a fan of lambias or ashley , but 1 of those3 has got it drastically wrong., i a am sure everyone agrees with that. the way i see it is, the manager is responsable for everything that happens on the pitch, regardless. he sets the team out to win and then picks the players to do it. now, ok weve had some very bad luck with injuries, the players are no longer available. we knew we had to buy, and we didnt.- enter lambias. the reason we didnt buy was because lambs wouldnt pay the money. so he is responsiblefor that, however, the final word must come from ashley. if lambias hands are ties regarding transfer fees, then ashley must be held responsible for the lack of investment. so as much as we know ash is at fault, the 1 person to take the flack and generally lose his job is the manager. Pardew now must be cursing our ownerfor putting him into this position. chelsea have sacked 2 managers , di matteo and mourinio for ignoring demands from the board, regarding who to play as striker. both have bitten the dust, but both have stuck to what they believe in.i think if pardew is not happy with the lack of investment fromm summer, then i think he should voice his concerns with the owners, and if need be , walk away , and yes we know he has an 8 year contract in his bin,, stating the fact that the job is impossible on the budget available, that way he can hold his head up high , and walk away with dignity. thw boos we heard last night will get worse. the performances will too, but regardless if pardew is to blame or not , he will get it , all the time,. its human nature, its what happens. if i was pards , and not getting any backing , i would seriously think about it. the future dosnt look good.

  • 87 mattnufc // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    ^Paragraphs needed

  • 88 Mister Tuff // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    Whilst I have reservations about Pardew getting the job in the first place, he should be afforded more time to try to get matters sorted out.
    Pardew has been made to look a bit of a chump in the summer -declaring new signings (clearly agreed with Dastardly beforehand thus increasing fans expectations) only for the “toughie negotiators” to pull out of the aspiring deals at the 11th hour and leaving Pardew with egg on his face -and having to face the public and explain (in corporate terms this usually means don’t tell the full truth) to the public/fans.
    There is such an obvious difference between buying goods or hiring typical workforce staff compared to buying footballers -who may or may not aspire to why you want to buy them in the first place -it’s a gamble, but the type of gambling that Dastardly seems to know little about (viz his casino background). Dastardy and Charnley probably returned from Europe thinking they were the business but not perceiving what lay ahead -and what sort of quality of players are needed for progression.
    Additionally all this rubbish about purple players -was it 11 or 13. this “policy” clearly suggests the top players are purple and are limited to a specific number – if you as a player are just outside of the purple group but start getting games for whatever reasons there will always be a doubt than your employer views you as inferior -this is a recipe for discontent. The only demarcation required should be “first team squad”.
    I think this purple rubbish refers to the cost of a purple chip in casinos -what a complete load of rubbish.
    What happens now -I see us struggling in the run up to the transfer window and a further slide down over if no purchases are made.
    The situation may be rectified by some good purchases -which I think will be made -probably at least three. Also Ashley at a whim can authorise the purchase of a higher quality player. This done, faces will be saved, the fans will be happy and all will be rosy in the garden again.

  • 89 Jail for Ashley // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    I’m totally with Lesh on this one,Pards is the one getting all the stick and a lot of people are only seeing his tactics as the reason for our shortfalls,I think it’s very unfair for people to adopt the attitude of ‘oh well you got lied to by the owners just get on with it’ what’s he meant to do with Cabaye who’s obviously been affected by the Debuchy saga,shout at him,it’s so obvious that after the hard work of last year and promises made that the players are peed off,they’ve probaby been told that players will come in January and now don’t know what to believe,the rteason a CB wasn’t bought last January we were told was because the real targets (thats plural) would be bought in the summer.And I’ve suspected since he came that the only reason that Anita was bought was because the fabled 25M bid for Tiote was expected,it didn’t come and neither did any other payers.

  • 90 GeordieTwo // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    A lot of questions but few answers based on what I’ve seen this season. Too many changes in personnel between Prem and Europa games, poor discipline from Tiote, some indifferent play from Cabaye, unbelievably poor play from Cisse (is that really Cisse?), lack of cohesiveness and spirit as a team and virtually no attack in most games. A recipe for disaster and that’s what we’re getting. Disastrous follow-up season to our fifth place finish. Sack Llambias and get a good football man in to support Pardew and do it now Ashley.

  • 91 BelfastMagpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    Should of got rid off Llambias a long time ago.

    Little worm that he is.

  • 92 BelfastMagpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Get somebody like David Dein or some other chief exec from another club.

    Who has worked in that role & knows what he’s doing.

  • 93 Graeme // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Lambsarse is MA’s man, his representative on the ground as it were. The chances of getting rid of him are somewhat lower than us winning Champions League next season!!

    Its just not going to happen – unless MA sells up.

  • 94 GeordieTwo // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    Aye Belfast Magpie, totally agree. This should be obvious by now to Ashley so I suspect we won’t see it happen as Ashley is just waiting for the TV money start pouring in next season. A few years of big profit and then he will sell the club. Can’t wait to see both of them leave because they truly go together as a pair. Last season gave us hope but we didn’t build on it in the summer because of the clueless 2 at the top.

  • 95 GeordieTwo // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Has anybody got any ideas about what has happened to Cisse? He looks completely lost even against poor opposition. I’ve never seen such a drop in quality for such an extended period. Pardew clearly has no faith in him now and must be terrified of losing Ba in the window. We have put ourselves in a terrible spot with no decent striker depth to speak of. No wonder the club is trying to rehabilitate Ranger! What a shambles with Llambias running things.

  • 96 BelfastMagpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    The only thing Llambias is good at,is making Pardew look like a fool.

    And dont get me started on the purple chip rubbish. Ferk sake lol

  • 97 soundoid // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Off topic here chaps, but why do we always suffer so many injuries? Our training ground was blamed in the past hence the under pitch heating. Could it be our training methods? We buy players that are prone to injury? Or could it be the surface at SJP?

    I don’t know I’m just throwing it out to you guys because it’s something we need to get to the bottom of as it seems to kill our seasons on a regular basis.

  • 98 BelfastMagpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    The real Cisse is working in mcdonalds.

    That’s his brother playing for us. 😉

  • 99 Magpies-till-d3ath // Nov 23, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Ed, you should do a poll on “Should Alan Pardew get sacked?” and then “Who would you like to see as Newcastle manager?” Just to get a debate going! 😉

  • 100 mark -ee- j-a-y // Nov 23, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    hello toon army,

    I`ve browsed this blog and read comments for years but never felt the need to join and comment as most of you here cover just about everything, but…

    as of late i feel that the performances have rapidly declined, (as of late i mean nearly all this season tbh). Who to blame is up for debate, i feel certain players havnt been `busting a gut` as of late, the likes of cisse and cabaye who were amazing last year, have now proved themselves in the premier league and seem like there heads have been turned to other things(eg chelsea, spurs and the likes) which is affecting there form.
    Also i rekon that we have a squad of players who are capable ov playing much `better` football than we currently are. By that i mean no more long ball,defensive team selections and in general shitty performances.

    sorry for the rant but im not happy with current affairs (and thats before i even get started on ashely and transfer dealings n that) and im sure im not the only 1 .


  • 101 archaeomag // Nov 23, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    We got 9 points out of 18 before the W@nga deal was announced and 5 out of 18 since, plus the injury gremlins have moved in . . .imagine what it will be like when they have to wear W@nga shirts- need I say more – sack the sponsor

  • 102 Marty-Toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    These next games are gonna be brutal to watch.
    I can see these mediocre teams taking some of their first wins against us.
    As many have said these last few games which is actually true of this whole season is that we have been really poor at passing even when the First Team was available
    We’ve only had Ben Arfa,Santon and Cabaye(he hasn’t been at his best either)and Collo that have been any way decent
    The young lads are just gonna have to step up n take the finger out

  • 103 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 23, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Maybe we can get a few games coming up postponed until we get a few players back. Just read that Rangers game at Elgin is off tomorrow due to Elgin selling to many tickets

  • 104 jimmysmith // Nov 23, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Maritimo missed a sitter in the last minute that should have condemned us to our third home defeat on the trot – an absolute sitter. And by the end of the match were comfortably the better side.

    I like Pards, but he must be very anxious going into the Southampton game. In that frame of mind and with these injuries it’s hard to see much joy at St Mary’s and another loss just heaps on the pressure. Big stress for a good young manager badly let down by his owner..

  • 105 Marty-Toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    I don’t know if you’d get any takers on such a debate on here 😉

    Really don’t know what fans expect on here.
    MA won’t sack him,he’s given him an 8 year contract.
    Who would want his job?
    Who will play the puppet as ou won’t be allowed a kitty and whatever players you want,you’ll have to pull the line and buy players that are picked out for you and you won’t be able to overbid.
    I for one being Irish woulda loved to keep Chris Hughton and he was a much better tactician than Pards but we will just have to put up with Pards….the only thing is that they may push him out if we end up below the dreaded line in January.
    Not sure where their 8 year plan is if that happens

  • 106 Marty-Toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    Seriously,they called the game off?
    The owner took off with the big pay day so 🙂

  • 107 Tsunki // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    magpies_t_d – for all thats good and strawberry-syrup flavoured in this world keep the noise down about a ‘sack pards’ poll. there’ll be a riot here its bad enough the torches are lit after two losses and dull progression in the eufa!

    I saw a few good things about our up and coming players yesterday, especially seeing marveux with an eye for goal, some neat touches here and there – I mostly see young players who are currently struggling with the pace and fluency of first team football and getting to grips with different team-mates each time. Practice makes perfect and its not like stuffings are being handed out to us on a daily basis. You’d think we were regularly getting hammered by 4 or more goals. The slightest whiff of a less-than-top-4 quality side being fielded brings the hysterical serial whiners pouring out of every orifice.

    Sack Pardew calls – its about as bad as a pseudo fan can be imo. Anyone remember how many great managers were queuing up for the job when Hoots was at the rudder? Exactly. Calls for top european cl-winning managers is great, but do you realise they wouldnt touch this job with the famed pole for pushing barges even now. It needs the stability of a long-term managed club which after trials and experiment become a settled and established side. Trashing your kecks at the thought of relegation because part way through the season we are about half way in the league and not blazing trails while dealing with an unusually high attrition rate is something a proper fan would do well not to advertise here.

    I thought this blog was for SUPPORTERS not harbingers of doom. People who want radical overnight change are, as someone commented earlier, as bad as those who swelled the call for SBR to be prematurely removed. I was hoping that you would not still be around, but hey….

    BANG hit that!

  • 108 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Has the birthday boy been sighted yet?

  • 109 Tsunki // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    jesper – he’s probably hammered on sangria. Bad craic that.

  • 110 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Tsunki…he did say something about a bottle of Absolute yesterday 😉 lol

  • 111 BelfastMagpie // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    He’s currently out in the venga bus,with Catchy and kets.


  • 112 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    Belfast…haha 😀 (good one mate)

  • 113 fleury14 // Nov 23, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Has anybody else seen how open we have been without guti in the side.Just shows what he brings to the team,he may not have the offence game he once has but he does a lot to are shape as a team.I think the team he will start is.Think he will put gutti on right so he can put fergie on left.Unless obertan is fit.

    simmo willo taylor santon

    gutti perch tiote fergie


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