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Newcastle Forge New Agreement With SPL Club

9:11 am, Friday, November 23rd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 26 Comments

There is news that Newcastle have made a formal agreement with Scottish Premier League club St.Mirren, to allow some of our best youngsters to go north of the border to get first team experience.

Paul Dummett - on loan at St. Mirren

At the moment we have Paul Dummett on loan at St. Mirren through January, and he seems to be doing a fine job for the Scottish Premier League club, and of course Alan Pardew is always keen to see his young guns go out on loan to experience first team football at other clubs.

The agreement is said to be an affiliation between the clubs – and that’s according to news in the Scottish press, and it could be that Connor Newton will join Paul Dummett north of the border soon,  on loan at the Scottish Premier League club.

St.Mirren manager Danny Lennon had this to say about the deal:

“We have an affiliation with the club Newcastle United now and it means we can go down and have a look at their squad and see who we like.” The chance to get our hands on some other youngsters from one of the best leagues in the world is great for St.Mirren.”

“It also gives Newcastle’s youngsters the chance to pick up some valuable experience and play first team football”.

Newcastle seem to have unofficial agreements with clubs like Carlisle United, where a number of our players have gone out on loan, and of course across the River Tyne with Gateshead – but the more clubs the better as far as we are concerned, because it gives our youngsters a chance to hone their skills with first team football.

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26 responses so far ↓

  • 1 SuperShearer // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    From previous thread. Sorry I’m confused….are some fans calling for Pardew’s head? Seriously some of you want him sacked? After what he did last season? Suppose you lot that want him gone also thought DiMatteo deserved the chop? You get no where in this game without a bit of stability.

  • 2 davybtoon // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    It’s higher level than reserve footy so that’s something I suppose

  • 3 davybtoon // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    I really like pardew but he has to stop with the excuses n start making teams worry about what we can do even with the injuries are starting 11 is better than half the prem, it’s like I can already hear him saying we’re missing to many big players which is why we got beat today in his interview after saints game

  • 4 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    Blame injuries all you want but at the end of the day we still had a team a class apart fro martimo that ultimatley sat back on a 1 goal lead under orders from the manager.

    I’m not distracting away from the point that Mike Ashley and Llambias should be held accountable for the small squad bit Pardew shouldn’t escape criticism of the way the team has been set up.

    Terrible tactics once more from Alan.

  • 5 Klam3r // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Even though it’s all negative from Catchy, i’ll back him 100%. I’m sure he’ll get more positive when we play football. He’s realistic in my eyes.

    Pardew is not the manager we need or deserve. Lack of tactical knowledge, players not playing for him and he doesn’t learn from any of his mistakes(thats pretty scary). With the squad we have we should outplay 2/3 teams at home, and compete away. We’re not even close of doing that!

    This has nothing to do with transfers(yes, transfers is always welcome), this is based on what Pardew is capable of with the material he has right now. He can’t get the best out of our players, and it’s not one or two. It’s the whole squad! Add that to his ancient and outdatet view on how fotball is played, and the future does not look bright.

  • 6 hotdog // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Catchy – do you not get sick of repeating yourself. Look we get your point how about contributing to the blog on other nufc matters

  • 7 Dannyo // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    It’s good news. The PL and the SPL may be worlds apart, but the physicality is the same. I’s all good imo.

  • 8 Griff-toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Alan pard who

    Dont agree the tactics where terrible. Players where playing bad. formation is good.

    We played mutch better against Swans

  • 9 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Super shearer

    I don’t want him sacked but if the people who do don’t believe he is the right man to go forward then stability will just stagnate the club and not push it on. You need stability with the right manager.

    I personally like pardew but I get where some people are coming from about being overly cautious in games.

    The problem we have had this year is creating good, clear cut chances.

    With no HBA and cabaye that will be much more difficult.

    So for the next few games, until one if then returns I don’t mind a more defensive approach to games as players like obertan, fergie, Jonas, tiote won’t create and abundance of chances for our forwards.

  • 10 Santon03 // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    Griff

    I think people here are all hardcore fans, if not they don’t bother to write anything in this blog.
    Basically some people including me just want good football not frustrating football, we all know how we felt when the club was relegated. We already accept the fact that we are not going to win anything in this decade, but if we do it’s just a bonus.
    We just want a good football and how the team play right now as the result of manager set up is not. This type of football is frustrating to watch even with a full team.
    Besides AP already signed 8 years contract, probably no pressures even if we were in relegation battle.

  • 11 chris_g // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM

    On topic – it’s excellent news and a great opportunity for our youngsters. Whatever people may say about the quality of football in the SPL it’s got to be a lot higher than the non-league Conference division, which is where they’d be playing if they went on loan to Gateshead – ‘The Heed’ might be ok for the younger lads, but our 21 year olds like Dummett, Brad Inman, Conor Newton etc. need to play at a higher level, and I think somewhere like St Mirren fits the bill nicely.

  • 12 Dannyo // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM

    Oh F off with your relegation battles and doom mongering.
    AP has proved thathe knows what he’s doing for two years now.
    The same peeps calling for his head is the ones that called for it on SBR. The rest are clueless kids.
    Grow up for goodness sake.
    When did swapping managers like this do us any good last time?

    Does my head in reading stuff like this. Shows some here dont have any clue whatsoever.

  • 13 Transfer Sage // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    I was impressed with marvoux and Anita last night.

    The quality of their passing was good when they got it right, saw the right pass but too often it was sloppy. Their movement to create options was also nice.

    I think getting then in the team when cabaye and Ben arfa are back will be a big help.

    Too many of our plays pass an stay still but both those lads did well last night even if the quality of the pass was sometimes lacking, at least they have options and tried to keep it on the floor.

  • 14 Alan_Pard_Who // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Abramovic saw the way Chelsea were playing and decided (for the love of the club) to have away with Di Matteo because he wasn’t providing quality football.

    The lack of investment, Pardews 8 year contract despite the worst football in the leauge and the continued employment of Llambias show that Ashley has no care for NUFC other than it’s business potential.

    He wants stability indeed, but stability for him must be avoiding relegation and turning over a profit.

    Look at the top teams in Europe. It’s a manger merry go round. That’s the modern game! If a manager doesn’t bring a style of football the owners like he’s gone.

    If Ashley had any aspirations for the club Pardew would be out in a heart beat.

    Problem is that Ashley doesn’t have to pay a large percentage of his earning to travel around Europe to watch his team serve up anti football. We do.

    None of you lot will do anything about this though as your armchairs are too comfortable and those who do voice this opinion are branded as enemies to nufc.

    We should rise up together and force Ashley out or is that too much work.

    Yes we are scattered all over the world but the pen is mightier than the sword and even on a blog we could start a revolution.

    But I think too man of you are concerned with Southampton away than the long term outlook for our wonderful club.

  • 15 89Norcal // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Please, enough of this Chelsea/Newcastle comparison. MA may be inept in terms of properly funding us in transfer windows, but he’s far cry from that sociopath Abramovich. No big clubs are constantly firing their managers unless they screw up badly or the managers retire!!

    Besides who the hell would replace Pards? You were all so silent last year when we were challenging for CL and Pards was MotY, now you’re all brave because of our injuries and 2 straight losses.

    Some of you would be better off not commenting at all.

  • 16 jeff // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    karasu i will be there! just sent an email!

  • 17 Griff-toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    Santon

    I agree with you, most of us here are hardcore fans as you say. However I am having problems with how fast the fans are turning on the team.

    Yes we whant good football. We are not getting it atm. But turning on the players especially the youger ones and booing them after games. Even though we qualified for the knockout stage. That is just not right.. What you end up getting is a full team of Obertans that have no confidence going into matches. And no wonder this is most apparent at home games where the fans have been appaling the last games!!

    If the fans are the 12th player on the pitch we are sertainly playing as poorly as the other 11.

    How I see it anway

  • 18 89Norcal // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Griff Toon,

    Team full of Obertans XD, we could never play in daylight again with all those shiny domes running around.

    I’d prefer a team full of Obertans to what we REALLY have right now, which is a mixture of poor tactics, low motivation, injuries, and abysmal player performances.

    Anita, Santon, and HBA are the only ones I’ve seen consistently playing at a decent level besides Krul, with a slight pardon for Ba sine he’s had a horrible midfield to supply him.

  • 19 Griff-toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    Di Matteo was on borrowed time. I think Benitez was planned as new manager a while ago. They just waited for the right time. It came after a few defeats

  • 20 jeff // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    we should do some fundraiser 100 m sprints

    who would win?

    obertan or adam campbell

    cisse or ba

    santon or ben arfa

    willo or mike ashley

  • 21 Griff-toon // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    89Norcal

    Hehe, picturing the Obertan team made me chuckle. Perhaps we could hand out sunglasses at the entrance?

    I agree wth your points. All the factors play their part, its just not only Pardews fault. Players need to man up and stop hiding from the ball. Now with the injuries more than ever.

  • 22 sirtoongospel // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Those calling for Pardews head should be ashamed. prople are going on as though we have a squad of world beaters. We most certainly do not. We have some good ones, but not many truly great ones. We punched MILES above our weight and when we didn’t invest in the Summer there was no way we could achieve that again. Our squad would perform miracles to finish top 8 and give the Europa League a real go. If anyone seriously thinks we have a top 4 squad then they need to give their head a shake. We lack 5 top players to be a good squad. Ashley has to realise we are treading water. If he wants us to step forward and make us European regulars, then we need Debuchy, Douglas (or another good CB), Sissokho and a forward. The forward MUST have serious pace. Someone who will run the channels and add a bit of fear to opposing teams. Doesn’t have to be massively prolific. Bellamy was like that and we could do with that type of player right now. Debuchy £6m, Douglas £4m, Sissokho £3m, and a forward? Simpson could be away and if Demba wants to go there is nothing we can do about it. If they do both go, and we brought 4 in, the net spend would be around £11 million if we spend like for like to replace Demba.

    If he doesn’t go then we spend similar money in January on the other 3, and in the Summer we buy the striker we all knew we needed this Summer gone.
    If Senegal had qualified for ACON we would have been screwed. Shola would have been our only choice for a whole month. The big fella cant play twice a week never mind a solid month.

    Mike Ashley has learnt some lessons, no doubt about that. Others though are still not sinking in. The “11 purples” statement from Llambias was ridiculous.

    It basically says, we have a first team and then if anyone gets injured or suspended then we are settling for a poor replacement, on less money who is nowhere near as good. Tells us all and the players we have no ambition, and tells the non-purple players exactly how they are thought of. There has been a sudden decline in moral and determination and it clashes from when that statement was made. Might be a coincidence, might not.

    I just wish that Ashley would realise that we don’t want or expect lavish signings for the sake of it. But there is business sense and common sense. Not sure Big Mike has much of the latter. The likes of Bigirimana shouldnt be anywhere the first team.

    Well, sorry for having a moan, but I wanted to!! Not at the players or the manager, but the owner. We missed a big chance to kick on. Not sure if we will get that chance again any time soon.

  • 23 Santon03 // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Griff

    I agree with you on booing players, I do not condone it.
    This is my opinion : we have basically the same players with last year, we only added 4 new ones. Take away all last year achievements and looking only at the way we play. My view, we are not playing the same way, either the other teams getting better or we are getting worse. Last season when we played MU or Arsenal or Chelsea, I still have confidence that we could win the game, it’s very exciting to watch. Now, everytime I watch I’m don’t have any confidence that we can win even against lesser teams, and there is no excitement added by losing at home, it’s only frustration.
    Again, please take away all achievements last season just concentrate on the playing style between last season and this season. If you say it’s the same, then I will admit I’m wrong for being frustrated, since I’m not as expert as some people here pointed out.

  • 24 89Norcal // Nov 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    Griff Toon,

    I just love the perceived mediocrity of 11 Obertans, :D especially when he’s a player I’ve defended to a point, and to the frustration of many readers here.

    sirtoongospel,

    I agree, a striker with real pace would work wonderfully alongside the class finishing of Ba or Cisse, or just Cisse if Ba goes; personally I think he’s staying unless he gets a monumental offer.

    I honestly wonder on a daily basis what is MA’s disposition on the club. I want to say he’s either confused by our poor form relative to last year (due to his lack of any footballing knowledge) or he could care less as long as his company gets revenue. Wish someone would slap him upside the head with a 5th-4th spot + CL qualification reward quote.

  • 25 naptoon // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    top comment 22. to be fair i think the booing is directed at the heirarchy not the players and its born out of frustration at a missed opportunity this season.

  • 26 Sav // Nov 23, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Obertan for St. Mirren?




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