If you thought Newcastle’s second half performance last night was pathetic – as we did – things are not going to get better anytime soon, because we now have Ben Arfa, Papiss Cisse and Shola Ameobi ruled out for the next few weeks of a very busy schedule for Newcastle.
Ben Arfa – has a hamstring injury
Ben Arfa brilliantly set up Sylvain Marveaux for his first goal for the club last night after 23 minutes, but then a hamstring problem had him leave the filed after 30 minutes, and the massive bet Alan Pardew had made by starting Ben Arfa in Europe for the first time had failed.
And then Cisse came off in the second half, and it wasn’t his back as first reported, but his thigh – and he seemed to limp off the field.
This is what Alan Pardew said after the game last night:
“It is a hamstring problem for Hatem Ben Arfa, so it will definitely keep him out on Sunday and probably next week. I don’t know from then on.”
“I don’t think it‘s a tear, according to the doctor, so it isn’t a long-term injury but it will keep him out for the immediate future. We’re just having blow after blow.”
“Cisse got a kick on the thigh and was starting to limp as it tightened up over half-time, so I had to take him off. With no striker on the bench – Demba Ba already on – it was proving problematic.”
“Shola looks doubtful for the next couple of weeks but I think Papiss has got a good chance for Sunday, hopefully we have done enough to protect him”.
And Shola Ameobi has another one of those groin problems that he has had throughout his career, and sat in the stands watching the game last night.
So we have Ryan Taylor, Haris Vuckic, Dan Gosling, James Perch, Yohan Cabaye, Gabby Obertan, Ben Arfa, Papiss Cisse and Shola Ameobi all ruled out of the game on Sunday, 9 first team players ruled out with injury – and Fabricio Coloccini is suspended – and we don’t know the status of Jonas Gutierrez – who did not participate at all last night.
The Newcastle squad has been absolutely decimated by the extra European games this season so far, and of course we are through to the knock-out rounds of the competition – and we ‘re not sure if that’s good or bad news.
This is what happens with poor preparation – when Alan Pardew was not given an enhanced and bigger squad to tackle Europe this season.
What do you think?
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17 comments so far
Griff-toon
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM
Comment #1Repost from last thread
Santon
I think what hardcore fan means here is that a lot of us have been through mutch worse times.
In fact last season is probbably the best season for the cluv since Bobbys time, and before that Keegan. Im not gonna panick already because of this rough patch.
It during times like these the club needs us more than ever. And as always the Newcastle fans (probbably the best in the world i might add) are so quick to turn on their manager/owner.
Oh and you know when this has happened before…
Bobby Robson was treated the same way by fans after a poor start to a season. If anyone could have turned that around it was him but our supporters smelled blood after some defeats.
We always expect too mutch, we are NOT a top 5 team yet!!
rainrix
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM
Comment #2Ed did you need read pards comments? He said cisse has a chance for sunday not that he’s out 😐
catchy in norway
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:09 AM
Comment #3Conaldo
look at the 2 team that played last night, on paper our team is way ahead of there team,
both teams sitting in 12th in there leagues, but thats where the similarities end,
we play in a league that is ment to be the best in the world
they play in a league that is very poor if you take the top 3 out of it,
much like scotland and holand , they made our team look the team from a poor league,
in the first half we passed it about better than of late, but for me they passed it better, just they never really attcked us, but in the second half they woke up and could have won the game, it feels like we lost, because we expected so much but where let down again,
you can say injuries, but how far back can you use that one?? the football has been poor since he got here
you can blame the players, again there pretty much playing like last year but without the results,
i dont think its just me that thinks this, but this is the best group of players we have had for some time, we can all see the ones with real ability, we can see the ones with less ability but they still put in a shift and will bleed for the club, we know who the shit ones are, that need replaced,, and on that point there isnt as many as you would think,
in closing of my argument, i think if the players are not happy with the lack of investment in the summer, pardew needs to have a word with them, but his job is to get ((A)) team ready to play football, and if ((THAT)) team is not ready for the match for what ever reason, ((HE)) carries the can,
right now you are lookin at his excuses and saying yeh that one is valid, and that one isnt,,
he needs replaced soon, southampton will murder us on sunday, and he will look at not having HBA to be his excuse
ONE 1 ONE player does not make a team, but right now, 1 player seems our/his only hope
martoon
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Comment #4From last thread – Morning Blaydon-Toon – Yes Mrs Martoon enjoyed the first half and the half time drinks BUT not the second half!
Mister Tuff
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM
Comment #5Ed ref the post by karasu -previous thread @ 71 -looks to me like an incitement to riot -criminal offence here in the UK. You should close the account.
Dannyo
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Comment #6Adding 3 players in the summer would only take that tally down to 7 players out currently, so no point arguing that.
Amalfitano, Abeid, Marveux – Do your thing!
davybtoon
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Comment #7That is the problem here toon fans think we should b up near top 4 reality is we’re no we’re near that
Alan_Pard_Who
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Comment #8Blame injuries all you want but at the end of the day we still had a team a class apart fro martimo that ultimatley sat back on a 1 goal lead under orders from the manager.
I’m not distracting away from the point that Mike Ashley and Llambias should be held accountable for the small squad bit Pardew shouldn’t escape criticism of the way the team has been set up.
Terrible tactics once more from Alan.
Klam3r
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Comment #9Even though it’s all negative from Catchy, i’ll back him 100%. I’m sure he’ll get more positive when we play football. He’s realistic in my eyes.
Pardew is not the manager we need or deserve. Lack of tactical knowledge, players not playing for him and he doesn’t learn from any of his mistakes(thats pretty scary). With the squad we have we should outplay 2/3 teams at home, and compete away. We’re not even close of doing that!
This has nothing to do with transfers(yes, transfers is always welcome), this is based on what Pardew is capable of with the material he has right now. He can’t get the best out of our players, and it’s not one or two. It’s the whole squad! Add that to his ancient and outdatet view on how fotball is played, and the future does not look bright.
Toon GI Jordan
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Comment #10At the moment I’m not too bothered about our league position, it’s our performances that are causing me distress. We haven’t had a good game for the full 90 minutes all season to be honest and the injuries are just adding up. We’re playing like we’re a new squad put together in the summer, passing is woeful, no runs off players (apart from Santon), crossing is woeful and the stupid tactics we’re employing (short corners and crossing the ball to the back post for 1 defender to nod it back in…just doesn’t work!).
terencelim
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Comment #11You can blame on players when there’s only 1-2 players playing poor, but when more than half the team playing poor at home then it must be something very, very wrong with the management.
spitfire_
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Comment #12rainrix
Pardew said that EL isn’t our prime target… but stil HBA played last night goes injured and will be of for at least 4-5 weeks I guess.
chris
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Comment #13they played passed the ball with a bit of flare the first half was not good just ok second half we were so poor they could of won i said after the swansea game that southamton will get there second win against us now we have more players out they are going to be up for the game more than any thing they will have fire in there bellys pardew needs to get things right or we could get hammered
Ian Magpie
Nov 23, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Comment #14In my 35+ years of watching the Toon have been through much mcuh worse than what we have now! Make no mistake its not good but if even half of you experienced the likes of Rob McDonald, Bobby Shinton and Billy Rafferty you would maybe sit back and think before hitting the panic button!
Its not good though and its frustrating after the season we have just had. My opinion is that the most of the players can’t be arsed on a cold Thursday night in a half empty stadium against a team from where??? If the fans can’t be arsed to turn up then why should they?? Not backing them and only saying! Pardew has never been my ideal manager and you cant make a silk purse out of a pigs ear! as the saying goes!!! Won’t happen and will not take us to the next level. And then theres Laurel and Hardy…………………………..The sound of chickens coming home to roost is in the air! Business ….yes, Football….NO! We all new that the failure to sign players in the summer was going to catch up with the club……..and it just has! They were warned this would happen but they have there heads shoved firmly up there own ars*s that they won’t listen!……………..Hang in their lads and support the team, they are going to need our help!
Sav
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Comment #15Mashley is like the bloke with a leaking roof because he didn’t fix a loose slate. Its going to cost more and be a bigger panic situation to buy players in January than it would have been to shore up the side last summer.
Not only that, but we’ve already now lost ground in the league. Thank heavens fo the Europa. It may not be much of a competition but at least it leaves us (for now) with sommat to cheer about. And after all, that’s all fans ask.
joeytoon
Nov 23, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Comment #16yes injuries are making an impact, but where are man u, where are chelsea, where are arsenal need i go on, these clubs were not stupid or arrogant enough to think they were strong enough not to strenghten, we were , injuries would make far less an impact if we didnt have a paper thin squad that is full of kids,
fat man you should go and spend a few weeks at another club and learn how to run a football club
karigauti
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Comment #17Griff-toon, I agree all the way. People have to remember that it was not many season ago that we where playing in the championship… so long as we don´t get relegated I say give Pardew his eight years—> nothing worth doing/having happens fast (or easily)!