Newcastle Need To Start Winning With Players Available


When you looks at today’s Newcastle side, we were only missing three players, who if fit would have started this game – Ben Arfa, Yohan Cabaye and Fabrico Coloccini –  so it’s not as if  we were short of a lot of our best players today, although those three could be the best we have in the squad.

Alan Pardew – at Southampton this afternoon

And then you think Vurnon Anita was filling in for Yohan Cabaye, who has a groin injury, and he was or best player today, then we should have done better than we did today – although Southampton deserved the win.

Newcastle are now 14th with just 14 points from our 13 league games, and we have Stoke City on Wednesday night, and we are just 4 points above Aston Villa, who are third bottom of the league.

We had better wake up and start playing somewhere near out best form fairly soon, otherwise this season could be a very bad one for Newcastle.   I’ll not mention relegation, because we have far too many good players for the club to be fighting relegation this season.

That’s true – isn’t it?

Alan Pardew has talked to the BBC after the game and he has said we are not playing well and also have had no luck – and that’s true enough:

“It was tough for us. I thought the intensity of Southampton was hard for us to cope with. In the second half, we should have equalized to square it up, although it might not have been deserved.”

“We are struggling at the minute. Southampton deserved to win today and we have got nothing to argue about. We are not playing with any great confidence.”

“Everything seems to be going against us and we have to be tough. We all need to grow very quickly because I don’t see many players coming back.”

Who would have thought we would be short of goals this season, but today’s clean sheet was Southampton’s first in the league this season,  after conceding 30 goals in their previous 12 games.

As we said, Newcastle are only 4 points above the relegation zone, but we are also only 7 points short of Everton on 21 points, who are in 5th position in the league.

Our players  need to start playing like their lives depended on winning – and a good time to start would be at Stoke City on Wednesday night.

It will be hard to take yet another defeat at the Britannia Stadium in three days time.

Very hard indeed.

What do you think?

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246 comments so far

  • BelfastMagpie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #1

    I think Ashley & Llambias think giving the manager a 8 year contract is a statement of intent.

    Signing 3/4 top players would be a much better statement of intent in my opinion. 😉

    I’m not actually really that shocked at the situation we find ourselves in,at the minute.

    It was always a possibility after the summer transfer window.

    Always a few injuries/suspensions away from a crisis with the current squad.

    It was the same last year,but we got lucky & managed to get away with it.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #2

    We dont have a chance on wed night it will be 3/4-0

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  • Ashton

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #3

    Just a gentle reminder “They hit the woodwork like 5 times and scored a perfectly good goal that was ruled out for an offside, and they should’ve had at least two penalties”

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #4

    Repost:

    Pardew and the team need so sort themselves out – that’s their job and responsibility.

    …everyone tries to find excuses, that being us fans or Pardew himself. He’s the silver supremo, he’s in charge and he picks the team, decide the tactics and chooses the formation.

    …If he wants help with that he can always call 😀 until then all I can do is support the team, but I will not say we play OK when we don’t especially when i got the impression after 30 min. that Pardew had given up!

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #5

    eaststand

    i don’t think it’ll be that bad, but, in reality, there is no better team to play than stoke to try to implement a good style of football against. now, as it has been every week, it’s over to AP and company to improve, because if we don’t turn it around at Stoke, who the hell in their right minds think we can get anything from arsenal or city, let alone a superior team-team, passing-team in Wigan with a far superior tactician at the helm.

    time to drop those balls you supposedly have, alan

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #6

    3 players short of his best team,( not the one i would pick) his
    and we got taught how to play footbal by a team that has just came up

    and if he is talking about bad luck,, luck was on his side today. it should have been a hammering,,

    now thats lucky

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #7

    *this was suppose to go before my earlier post 🙂

    Wizard…it’s true we need to get behind the team, that’s all we can do, but…

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  • AJepson93

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #8

    Hi everyone, newcomer to the site, been a reader for some time…
    Worrying times indeed, but there must be some light at the end of the tunnel soon… Lets get behind the team at times like these. HWTL!

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  • PortsladeToon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #9

    Talk about short memories, reading back the last couple of topics on here is like reading the obituaries, I went to the game today as it’s not that far from me and yes i was disappointed but we will pick ourselves up we are just going through a bad patch with injury’s and moral is low but stick with it we will come through it.

    HWTL

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  • popscott

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #10

    Hope he has learned his lesson once!

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  • MagpiesFlyHigh

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #11

    A lot of mid ranked sides yo-yo from season to season and we are in that group.
    If managers and owners could work out why then they could find ways of sorting it out.
    As it happens, they can’t and the collective brain power on this blog is no closer to working it out either.

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  • pedro

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #12

    Any fans saying they have put bets on us getting relegated and sold season tickets! Good riddance! You’re a disgrace to the club.

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  • Ashton

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #13

    “I thought the intensity of Southampton was hard for us to cope with”

    Can’t believe how stupid he is! It’s Southampton ffs!! If we can’t cope with them why even play in the PL???

    This guy is not fit enough to manage us. And it’s our job as supporters of this club to realize this fact and voice our frustration. We are capable of much more. Even with the injuries and suspension. We had a better squad than Southampton today but they outclassed us so badly I’m thankful for a 2-0 defeat!.

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  • Mancgeordie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #14

    We was poor, we was lucky it was only 2 but playing 442 with BA n Cisse up top just doesn’t seem to work hopefully Ashley will back his manager with some decent funds to go with his 8 year contract if its really the utd n ars mould we are following but I doubt he will

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #15

    Pedro – ill drink to that 🙂 good riddance

    Who thinks they should introduce standing areas again?
    And where would be the standing area at sjp?
    I think the obvious choice would be the gallowgate.

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  • check the toastie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #16

    JFA – i am not saying i am an Ashley fan, clearly we should have improved the squad in the summer, however the squad we have is still better with current injuries than most of the teams we play.

    Southampton were showboating against us today and i even seen Tiote just walking back when Soton were attacking, it reminds me of the time Gullit had lost the dressing room, it could be seen that we should be doing better and sure enough somebody (Bobby) came in and turned it around straight away.

    However the setup of the club will make it impossible to attract anybody who has a half decent managerial record, its all a bit of a mess.

    I do believe the squad we have is good enough for top 6 in the right hands, Ashley must be given a little credit for this, and it is better than signing old has beens like in the fat freddie era, ala QPR now.

    Ideally somebody who actually cares about the club would own it, however we are stuck with fatty until he sells, just hope he sacks Pardew as i have no faith in him and think the players need a shake up.

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  • pedro

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #17

    Thanks Conaldo, I could do with a drink too!
    Would love a standing area at St James! The gallowgate would be immense

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  • PortsladeToon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #18

    check the toastie,
    So who would you get in as manager?, bearing in mind quite a lot of good one’s would think twice about coming here.

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  • NUFC STEVE

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #19

    Love how pardew has more excuses than anyone after the match yet never says
    We need to change the way we play or
    I set us up wrong!!!
    Everyone new going into the game Southampton swamp the midfield to make themselves a good passing team yet that Pardew twat decides to play 2 up and hoof the ball up bypassing midfield and just swamp Tiote and make him look terrible. Just shite.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #20

    Matty i really thought we would get atleast a point today today was our best chance to turn that corner, stoke will batter us on wed then its wigan at home and i think they will take the piss out of us we could really go on a massive loosing streak here, im fearing the worst.

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  • nick_9

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #21

    Conaldo also regarding atmosphere i think a lot of fans have forgotten that Ashley split up the singing section. Probably because of the FCB Chants. I would love a standing area but the government are about as stubborn as Pardew so it wont happen for a while yet

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #22

    Plus it would expand the capacity of the ground quite a bit. Anyone know what the capacity would roughly be with a standing area in the gallowgate?

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  • G

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #23

    At least we are still above the mackems in the Prem, although that game in had they have is a concern.

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  • check the toastie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #24

    Ashton – maybe thats why the Europa league is so bad, all the teams we play against in the EL play at a lower intensity, so we have dropped ours to suit.

    It all makes sense now, that damn Europa League. What he should be saying is ‘i need to solve the problem why we are getting overran in most away games and cant match other teams workrate’, there is no excuse, we have so many problems currently, we dont enjoy possession at all and cant play our way up the pitch.

    Demba Ba for all his goals is contributing jack shit in general play, not even workrate, personally i would drop him and play Cisse up front by himself with pace or craft in a forward three, Pardew has even made young Sammy look terrible, we are currently a joke.

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Comment #25

    Nick – yeah, but I hear that they are close to building a standing section down at villa, so maybes the rules might be changing a bit.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #26

    Every club gets injury’s and suspensions Alan. Granted we have had more than our fair share this season but Pardews go to excuse seems to be “everything is going against us” really ?. Was Ba’s handball against reading going against us, or Everton’s disallowed goal. Pardew need to step and take responsibility by changing our system, whether it is formation or personnel and stop giving bullsh*t excuses every week

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  • Mancgeordie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #27

    Look I really can’t see pardew getting sacked with his shiny new 8 year contract unless he quits

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #28

    Personally would like too see pards throw down the challenge to the players to pick themselves up dust them selves down and get on with what there paid an obscene amount to do and play with some passion cos the i dint think it matters what tactics what formation we play the squad in half of them look like they cant be arsed if thats the case drop em give some one else a chance cos they cant do anyworse!
    I mean when did tiote forget that he is an athlete and is allow to run? Bloke was just walking around in parts!
    On the plus side anita looked like he’s starting to get to grips with the league and think we will see the best of him in the next couple of fixtures!

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  • check the toastie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #29

    I would go and try and nick Steve Clarke from West Brom, defo would have Martinez, however as i have said, we ended up with Pardew because nobody else would come on a shit wage working with such a tit as Del Boy.

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  • jimmysmith

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #30

    “Newcastle Now Paying The Price For Being Too Thrifty”

    Another Mike Ashley clanger, but we know he does learn from quickly from mistakes that cost him money. So I think he’ll ultimately fix it, although I’m not convinced he’ll try to save this season for us in January.

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  • NUFC STEVE

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #31

    FRANK DE BOER

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  • mkhalaf

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #32

    I don’t care what anyone says about mike Ashley not strengthening the squad, we might have a sub par squad compared to the top 5 teams however the squad available is still much better than all of our last three opponents and we have no excuse not to get any points from our last three games,,, blame is 100% pardews,, even with all the injuries and the extra 1 game a week that everyone is making such a big fuss about smh we still should not lose three straight games to weak opponents (2 at home), any of our previous three opponents would be more than glad to trade squads even with our injury depleted squad,,, BLAME PARDEW

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  • NUFC STEVE

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    Comment #33

    ALAN SHEARER

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  • Slank

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    Comment #34

    The main problem is the team’s lack of confidence which is causing jitters at the back and a lack of inventiveness in midfield and risk taking in the forward line.

    It is affecting most of the players (Taylor, Santon and Tiote excluded). Within this downcast atmosphere some of the players are being exposed, some more than others. Fergie has a sweet left foot but never attacks his opponent. An occasional left wing cross just isn’t good enough. Sammy cannot control the ball and for such a big lad should be more intimidating but isn’t. Simpson poses no threat going forward. Williamson is an accident waiting to happen. Jonas is neither one thing or another and is therefore struggling. Anita has the skills but hasn’t found his Premiership legs yet. I’m not sure where Marveaux’s best position is. He clearly has the skills. Cisse has lost his confidence. He and Ba don’t / can’t operate together.

    The 4-4-2 formation just isn’t working. Having two strikers is a luxury and a risk when the players behind them are not functioning on all cylinders. We need a more cautious 4-5-1 until the confidence returns when the formation can evolve into a 4-3-3.

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  • NUFC STEVE

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #35

    ROBERTO DI MATTEO

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  • NUFC STEVE

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #36

    GLENN HODDLE

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #37

    I bet Pardew’s contract has team performance clauses i.e. if we are in danger of being relegated we can bring in someone else or that we need to finish in the top 10. We all know Ashley likes a clause

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  • nufc90

    Nov 25, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #38

    De Boer, Jol, Favre would do me. Maybe Martinez or Di Matteo but I really hope Pards just changes it himself. And cuts the terrible hoof ball boring tactics out

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  • woodsee

    Nov 25, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #39

    Peter Reid

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 25, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Comment #40

    Give Pardew till the new year and if performances like today carry on I would like to see either Martinez, Jol or Clarke brought in

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