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Newcastle Now Paying The Price For Being Too Thrifty

5:52 pm, Sunday, November 25th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 176 Comments

It was fantastic that Newcastle finished 5th in the league table last season, and qualified for the Europa League and manager Alan Pardew deservedly won both the Barclay’s Premier League Manager of the Year award, and the LMA Manager of the Year award.

Mike Ashley – needs to open the check book in January

But when you are in Europe,  teams play a lot more games, and you need a much bigger squad than is needed for local competition in England, but in the summer transfer window only one player was brought in to fortify the squad – Vurnon Anita.

And with up to 11 first team players unavailable today for one reason or the other, Newcastle are now slumping in the league table, with a third defeat in a row and one point form the last four games, and if the Newcastle Board – make that owner Mike Ashley and Derek LLambias – were not thinking of bringing in new players in January – they had better think again.

But with the games now coming thick and fast,  we just have to hope that we don’t sink further down the league table before January rolls around.

We have 9 games to play through January 2nd, and eight of those are in the league, so that’s 24 points to play for,  and our squad is decimated with all the games we’ve had to play this season, and it’s not going to get any easier – anytime soon.

Newcastle are now paying for the lack of vision and planning in the Newcastle board room over the summer months, when the Board penny pinched too much, and refused to pay a little over the odds for good players like Douglas and Mathieu Debuchy.

It’s fine if Newcastle want to keep doing that – but they also have to be responsible for what’s happening this season in the league, because we simply don”t have a squad that’s nearly big enough to be competing in Europe.

And it’s hard to blame Alan Pardew either, who is probably just as shocked at the rest of us of us with his squad being so decimated right now.

Although on the other hand,  we had only three starters from our best team missing today – Fabricio Coloccini, Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye –  although they are probably our best three players.

We hope that Mike Ashley opens the check book in January,  and brings in three or four new players, so we can rescue our season,  and ensure we are in the Premier League next season, even if we are not in Europe.

A win at Stoke on Wednesday would also help.

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176 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ben3arfa // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    PARDEW OUT, ASHLEY OUT

  • 2 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Exactly – how is it Pardew fault we have so many injuries and don’t have the players to cover it?

    If anyone needs to go its Ashley.
    But this club is just untouchable. No one will buy it, and if Pardew goes no one will manage it.

  • 3 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Ben3arfa
    Does it matter whos in or out if your not watching us again this season?

    Swear half our fans are somehow related to abramovic!!!

  • 4 nezzatoonmad // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    MA open a check book ya kidding the only thing he will open is the oven door for his pies

  • 5 Tsunki // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Indonesia – no, players like Cabaye, HBA Tiote consistently at the same time as one example. Colo, Saylor Santon and simmo same. And yes, Gutierrez long with them. We have a decent tema when they are all fit at the same time.

  • 6 Indian Magpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Request all of you to please not put all your vitriol out now.

    we have 8 more years of this

  • 7 John Tudor // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    even with fully fit squad we r inept clueless and run by an idiot who makes money from our misery

  • 8 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    CONALDO – Pardew said himself he is the one he knocks on ashleys door asking for signings, he needs to get him to release more funds. He is the one who said we didnt need a defender after Perch and Raylor got injuried. Protecting the current players? thats worked well so far in the 20 games we have had hasn’t it.

    Pardew, the players…….. the hierarchy are all at fault. Again its the fans i feel for, the ones who travelled.

  • 9 Szarka // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Need at least 3 players, best is 4, CB, RB, LM and a sub striker.
    Pardew must leave if he cant put up a better tactic , cant motivate the players. Mostly in this season every player decreased in skills, play much worst then, last year, and that must be motivational problem. Pardew should leave, and Ashley cash in around 20 mill for 4 players. Thats not something a PL team cannot afford.

  • 10 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    solano

    Do you really think that Ashley would care about dissent from the fans? Knowing the clubs following I honestly can’t see attendances and merch sales ever dropping low enough to make him care.

    Now that we’re in the black (or we should be..) is it not just a case of sitting steady for 8 years while slowly paying back the ‘debt’ ?

  • 11 Lee Dodd // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    The Result Today Is Very Worrying .. We have to get New Players in In The New Year and GET THEM .. Mike Ashley and Del Boy have basicly got us into a relegation spot if there not Carefull !!!!

  • 12 John Tudor // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    last rant for a while

  • 13 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Nezza and ben3arfa – why are Yous still here? Didnt Yous say you weren’t going to watch us anymore so why are you here? At least stick to your word and bugger off.

  • 14 manxpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    repost
    wizard exactly we had a proper settled team and we haven’t had 1 at all this season and more importantly in midfield so how all these people on HERE can’t see that as a major issue i don’t know!
    but lets sack pardew and get relegated hey!!!?

  • 15 toonking // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    ed it’s good of you to try but i get the feeling only the likes of myself dannyo TADS and wizard, to name a few , will actually read it most think of a manager as someone who has a controler in their hand and moves the players on a tv screen.

  • 16 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    Before making ‘Mike Ashley is fat’ jokes, you should be aware that he’s actually no longer a large man.

    Just thought I should point that out, seeing as the blog seems to be decending into swearing and abuse.

  • 17 Rotonda heights // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    ed

    Yeah west ham, swansea and southampton have so many better players…NOT!. It’s far too easy an excuse.

    If we had messi, pardew would still play hoof ball. It’s in his D.N.A

  • 18 nezzatoonmad // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    jan transfer market free players but hey since MA is a businessman bargain hunter he might get 2 free players for the price of 1, and here’s a thought in the transfer market just gone im sure there were reports that MA gave PARDEW 20 mill to spend or was that just BULLSHIT

  • 19 boater // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Rotonda – I completely disagree that Cisse should be kept out of the side by any one of Marveaux, Sammi or Ferguson. None have done anywhere near enough to justify a place ahead of Cisse.

    Golden rule – Play your best players at all times.

    4-4-2 doesn’t necessitate a long ball game. We have played lots of 4-4-2 formations down the years: Shearer/ Ferdinand, Bellamy/Shearer – cole/Beardo- spring to mind, none of those teams played long ball, but all had balance in midfield.

    Pardew has dug himself into a hole of sorts by guaranteeing Ba that central slot – as the 4-3-3 did work well at times last season. The only formation I can see addressing the main concerns is 4-3-1-2… not without it’s problems (namely lack of runners out wide) but it’s the closest thing to a solution with the players he has.

  • 20 check the toastie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    It has nothing to do with lack of investment, outside of six teams we have the most talented squad in the league, no excuses, the football served up has been shit since he took over.

    No Clue and No Progress under Pardewasaurus Rex.

    We should try and get Martinez, he would have this squad playing some great stuff, migt concede a few but we will give it a go.

    If Pardew is still here in Jan to preside over us getting knocked out of the FA Cup by a lower league club, it will be the final straw, and i will be forced to hunt him down and use my particular set of skills on him.

  • 21 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    If Ashley was the big gambler everyone makes out he would have gambled on a few extra plyers to help us push for europe again. Instead he took the cheaper gamble in the hope the players could still finish highly not effecting revenue much. Pardew is at fault for not getting the team paying and not doing what he said and thats trying to get more players. If his judgement was true that we didnt need another defender in the last window then he is as clueless as our stupid set pieces, if he was protecting Ashley then he is a muppet for being a yes man and deserves no respect for putting himself in that position. Its going to get really tough now and even more hostile….. so angry right now

  • 22 nezzatoonmad // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    conaldo when did i say i wasn’t going to watch them ive always watched them regardless of how we play so i think you need to get your facts right.

  • 23 Tonytoon73 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    TDS get the pitch fork ready.

  • 24 boater // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    I don’t think missing players is that relevant. It’s not like we’ve just lost three to Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd. We have been outplayed by three newly promoted teams. What’s more we were woeful with Ben Arfa and Cabaye in the team.

  • 25 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Rotonda

    You keep repeating that same line again and again and again. I’m not saying I disagree, I just don’t understand how it’s productive.

    I think you’re exagerating though. There were times last year when we played some lovely football. Stoke at home and West Brom away spring to mind. We had more possession than Swansea at home last December and completely dominated the game, despite it finishing goalless.

    And at times in the EL this season we’ve played really nice stuff – however it’s usually just for the first half, before we (Pardew or the players – I assume Pardew) panic and resort to time (see Bordeaux and Maritimo at home).

  • 26 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Nezza
    Thought you were off too after flogging ya season ticket?
    OH and putting certain words in CAPS LOCK doesnt mean your posts are any better like!

  • 27 Ben3arfa // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Actually come to think of it , Pardew getting the sack wouldnt be the greatest decision ..

    Knowing Ashley, hed most probably hire Steve Kean and then even the biggest nancy pants here wouldnt stick around the cockney circus ..

  • 28 Robbanufc // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    What our team needs at the moment is at least 4 new players in january. Debuchy, cause Simpson is not good enough. Douglas (or some other top class centre half), cause Williamson doesnt make the cut. A top class creative winger, cause Jonas isnt a winger anymore, and we dont have any other capable winger then Ben Arfa. And we need strength in depth in central midfield. We need a Sissoko-type player.

    What our team should look like after January:

    Debuchy – Douglas/S Taylor – Coloccini – Santon
    ——————— Tiote—————————–
    ————Cabaye ——- Sissoko ————–
    Ben Arfa ——————————— A solid improvement
    ———————–BA ——————-

    Today was absolutely disgraceful, Swans and West Ham at home should be at least 4 points. Stoke away next, the way we’re playing at the moment wont give us anything..

    Our squad just isnt good enough.

  • 29 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    sacking the manager after giving him an eight year deal send out the wrong message and i cannot see Ashley doing that. This man hates admitting he made mistakes and would rather Pardew Walked or see it out. He is this great business man who cannot be seen to be making wrong decisions. Mug.

  • 30 mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    tonytoon!

    love when you’re around

    what’s your take on all this?

  • 31 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    type* not time.

  • 32 Sawbuck // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Non of us wanted shed of Hoots. Now look at this.

  • 33 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Tonytoon
    Alreet mate how ya been?

    Nezza

    Nezzatoonmad
    Nov 25 – 5:20 PM
    well ive sold my season ticket today for £250 and also won my bet £75 on sky bet and i also have NEWCASTLE to be relegated on a £10 bet to 250-1 since the beginning of the season and its looking good for next year im also considering making bets on who goes as-well im thinking all our so call star players, PARDEW wont be sacked and ASHLEY wont sell out

    Worst kind of fan you make catchy look like he has the patience of a saint!!!

  • 34 Tonytoon73 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    matty just sit back and laugh mate. Ha ha

  • 35 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Nice to see us help Southampton get out of the Relegation zone.

  • 36 89Norcal // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Last season, we were blessed to not have nearly as many injuries, and also our key players were in form in Ba, Cisse, and Cabaye (I think being new to the club helped their confidence in ways).

    we have catchy from norway spamming that 42 man list, someone should remind him how many of those players are injured or youth level. Not to mention it disregards the fact that European matches detract from preparation from PL games, IN ADDITION TO the injuries and extra fatigue.

    Being too tight fisted to put up another 500k in the window is just making the coaching staff’s job that much harder.

  • 37 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Looks like I missed another great performance.Haha

    Im getting very good at doing this.

    Did anybody lose an eye after the match?
    All them pitchforkš & that. :-)

  • 38 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Even GG’s back!

  • 39 Tonytoon73 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    tads sound mate. Hows the bairn?

  • 40 solano // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    TDS… merchandise sales/ attendances etc have dipped significantly but not nearly enough to counteract the increase that tv revenue will re-motivate MA to stick around.
    Are you really suggesting sitting back for 8 years and ‘going with the flow’ is a viable option? If it is then NUFC fans will get what they deserve….nowt!
    The fans, far from being powerless, actually weild quite a lot of power but they are frightened to use it and are continually battered by misinformation from club PR machines and their propensity to trust in blind faith and call for fellow fans just to ‘support the lads’.
    Managerial merry go rounds don’t help, but the fans had an opportunity to exert their power back in 2008-9 and bottled it. The opportunity may be coming around again.

  • 41 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    toonarmydownsouth, Just got bored with the same old same old. See how long it takes before I get peed of with the abuse against one another again. 24 hours max.

  • 42 Sawbuck // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    GeirdieGerman isn’t it always that way?

    Got a problem? No one else can help?

    Don’t worry Newcastle United up next!

  • 43 Tonytoon73 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Belfast i am just sharpening my pitch fork mate. Lol

  • 44 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Check
    Aye we have a very talented squad when there available! Not saying pards is blameless completly nor the board but the spine and engine of the team has been crippled, last season we had a constant starting 11 that played week in week out this season we ain’t even got a constant CB pairing!!

  • 45 89Norcal // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    BelfastMagpie

    As long as they blunt the tips, they can do all the ranting and human torches they want. There’s really no stopping them anyways :)

  • 46 Spreadthetoon // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    loads of injuries and a thin squad eh? Extra games in Europe ….and the lack of investment meaning that players had low morale. Well I’m shocked………not really as I predicted and forewarned of this….but too many sicophants kept on insisting that they were happy with the thriftyness…..still standing by your words? Doubt it.

  • 47 IndonesiaToon // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    tsunki

    most of us saw anita plays well at rb.. i would choose him any day over simpson.
    and marv been playing well lately, why not play him instead of guti?

    PL experience? look at Hazzard, Corzola or even Bryan Luiz…

    How can players get experience when AP not even include Abeid, Amalfitano or Campbell in the team? Rooney was 16 when he play for Everton…

  • 48 check the toastie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    It doesnt matter who we sign in january, under Pardew we wil play shite, he hasnt got a clue and this is proven by what the team has served up under his stewardship, a counter attacking display at West Brom and one decent performance at home to Stoke hardly represent the football his team has generally served up.

    For every West Brom away there is a Wigan away and for every Stoke at home there is a Wolves/Bolton/WestBrom etc.

    Why dont people understand that the guy is clueless, the performances as a whole have been shit and we are now as bad as the Mackems, in fact we are currently worse. He is lucky we dont have them at home next week.

    Get rid and get Martinez in, the time has come.

    That 8year contract is a total Joke, FatMan is more clueless than his manager.

  • 49 JTOONJ // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Over dramatic fickle fans aren’t you!
    We’ve been in worse positions, in the past we still have plenty of time.

  • 50 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Tonytoon
    Aye the littuns grand thanks just got her her first pitch fork for christmas might have to ket her have it early!!

    GG
    Its hard work to be arsed to come on here sometimes tbf! Stick at it mate we miss sensible posters like yourself!

  • 51 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    Everybody should just turn up at the Wigan game with their pitchforks,and get Llambias. lol

  • 52 jimiley // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    We have some terrible fans on this blog. We lose a few games and most want the manager sacked who got us 5th last season. keep the faith. No reason to panic until March if we are still playing rubbish.

  • 53 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    solano

    Think you missed my point pretty badly there ;) I was implying is that not MA & DL’s plan? That was my assumption.

    As for what I want, no, of course that’s not an option. But as someone who doesn’t go to too many matches, hence not being someone who pays the staff’s wages, I try not to get too worked up by stuff. I trust those who live in the area and conribute to the club to have better judgement than I.

  • 54 toonking // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    TADS that list of players you ajusted to prove catchy i thought of another reason which makes it even more clear how thin we are,-the player that are always hated when they start
    1. Tim Krul
    2. Fabricio Coloccini was injured/3 match ban
    4. Yohan Cabaye injured
    5. Danny Simpson-not liked as a starter
    6. Mike Williamson-classed a a championship player
    8. Vurnon Anita
    9. Papiss Cisse-disliked as it make 4-4-2
    10. Hatem Ben Arfa injured (granted only today!)
    14. James Perch injured
    15. Dan Gosling injured
    16. Ryan Taylor injured
    17. Romain Amalfitano
    18. Jonas Gutierrez
    19. Demba Ba
    21. Rob Elliot-just another GK
    22. Sylvain Marveaux
    23. Shola Ameobi injured
    24. Cheick Tiote coming back from injury plus ban (someone made a point that it takes him 3 games to hit form again after injury)
    25. Gabriel Obertan injured
    27. Steven Taylor
    37. Steve Harper just another GK
    49. Adam Campbell injured
    3. Davide Santon
    20. Gael Bigirimana
    28. Sammy Ameobi-very young
    29. Haris Vuckic injured
    31. Shane Ferguson-young
    34. James Tavernier-young
    39. Mehdi Abeid-young
    42. Jak Alnwick-very young

  • 55 89Norcal // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    Even I have to target Pards a little on this match.

    He should no longer burden himself with the striker conundrum and run 433 again. I think they would both prefer winning and being a winger now and then to losing 3 straight.

    Jonas once again offered ZEEEEEROO to the team, not even the “effort” that everyone speaks of him. Willo was beaten at least twice by the SOTON forwards.

    People blasting Fergie, why? He was the only one besides Anita who created any chances! He put in a wonderful cross on the set piece and put pressure on SOTON when possible.

    Anita was obviously motm and was one of the few to show any desire to win.

  • 56 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    When was Geordie German ever a sensible poster?

    I must of missed them “sensible” posts.
    ;-)

  • 57 Tonytoon73 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    Belfast that is a cracking idea, pitch fork lamearse. Ha ha

  • 58 jimiley // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    THRIFTY?????????????
    What does that mean ED? Ashley has lost a MILLION in a couple of hours in the casino. The man is not thrifty. He spends his money on things he wants and give him enjoyment. NUFC is not one of them.

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    JTOONJ
    Some fans mate not all of us!!

    Indonesia toon
    Mate hazard is a £30 million pound player corzola is class and would of cost much more than arsenal paid if his club weren’t in financial sh1t as for brian ruiz he’s looked okay this season but has taken over a season to settle

  • 60 mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    German

    was wondering where you were at yesterday, actually. read an old article and saw your name

    ahh, nufcblog nostalgia

  • 61 Spreadthetoon // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    Jimiley
    Have you been impressed with any EPL performance this season? Been entertained and watched attractive football for at least 45 mins? If you can answer “Yes” then can I suggest that you take off your rosetinted glasses of eh.

  • 62 Black and White with an army lol // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    hey guys first time here just gonna say hope we improve soon and very quickly get our star players back and to get them in top form again

  • 63 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    Dig a hole and bury Llambias,or throw him in the tyne.

    Im happy with either option.

  • 64 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Belfast…No, but I lost two hours of my life that I would like to have back!

  • 65 Novocastrian66 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    JTOONJ
    Nov 25 – 6:15 PM
    Time is a precious commodity. You think you have plenty, sit back and relax. In fact you have to be one step ahead to succeed. Take your eye off the ball and you’re f****d. Keep ahead of the pack. If you don’t it will cost more in the long run to catch up never mind keep up.
    Ashley, the supreme business man should know this.
    We’ve sat back. Massive outlay required in January or we’re toast.

  • 66 cockneymagpie90 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    @ben3arfa

    Id be happy to see steve kean come in for pards. Pardew cant buy a goal and steve kean played exciting attackin football and was averaging 2, 3 goals a game but just let too many in! If we attacked teams with our quality u would see alot more good results and most of all good exciting football!!!

  • 67 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Spreadthetoon
    No ones said were playing well but theres a difference in seeing that pards isnt going anywhere so support the team the whole team with management included and help the club get out this rut and back to winning ways as opposed to running round like screaming kike lunatics calling for everyone at the toon to be sacked!!

  • 68 mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    spreadthetoon

    think i’m part of a dwindling minority

    I was happy with the recruitment drive. I thought it was a load of s*** we didn’t get a CB but hey, there’ve been worse things as of the past few years to ponder on in the off-season

    just can’t buy into it that it’s all MA’s fault. sure, players are more than to blame but Pardew, in my mind, is simply being shown up for what he is- a pretty unimaginative, sub-sub par football manager.

    hey, it’s the way it is though. i just really, really do believe in the squad of players. it’s just a lethal mixture of bad form and a very arrogant, very stubborn manager sticking to ways and formulas that are proven time and time again ridiculous

  • 69 Garreth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    I haven’t commented in a while but I feel as though I need to comment today to stick up for Pardew as very few people seem to be on his side at the moment.

    We’re going through a rough patch in the PL, and it may not get any easier if our injured players don’t come back soon, but I really don’t feel Pardew is to blame. He’s the same manager as he was last season and no-one was criticizing him them. The only thing that has changed is more injuries and more games… a deadly combination!

    Pardew got us back into Europe and has made us a respected team again, apart from the last few games. He needs a chance to turn things around, and you “fans” need to stop knee-jerking. A bad patch and all of a sudden you want him gone, pretty pathetic really.

  • 70 Mc_Toon // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Yes we should have spent more in the summer, but the team we’ve had on the pitch the last three games was, in my opinion, better than the opposition’s teams. From West Ham, Swansea and Southamptom, there’s only a handful of players in those teams who I’d have put in the Newcastle team. The difference is the way they’re managed- which is better than ours. I don’t believe you can blame this on injuries- yes they’re not ideal, but we still have a strong side. Also, looking back at last season, there wasn’t many games where we played good football, we just hung on and stole a winning goal against the run of play the majority of the time.

  • 71 Spreadthetoon // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Belfast
    Any chance you can start a petition on that….LOL perhaps Ed could do one of em vote surveys eh? Best methods to get rid of the Cockney mafia!

  • 72 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    I don’t mind getting beat if we show some willing, play football, a tad unlucky
    BUT NOT WHEN WE?ARE BLOODY?EMBARASMENT
    Can’t pass, can’t move off the ball, still hoof it long out of defence, to many backpasses to the keeper, basically the same clueless tactics week in week out.
    Is this the managers tatics are are the players not up to it !

    Has Pardew not noticed that the Senegalese manager vary rarely starts with both Ba and Cisse. Must be a reason.

    I can see us bottom by Christmas
    as I cannot see us picking up another point before the transfer window opens
    And if bottom what use will the transfer window be as our best players will leave.

    I have supported Pardew but my patience is getting thin.
    I’ll still turn up on Monday and give my support – but if we do not give a better account of ourselves against a Wigan team that is good on the eye to watch – I may be joining others for a change

  • 73 SouthCoastToonFan // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    I am really becoming disillusioned with this club! It is so frustrating as everything is there for us to be one of the biggest and best in the country! We have a great stadium, great fans who would guarantee 50000+ every home game and a great football heritage. We are massively let down by an owner who couldn’t care less about the club, Llambas who seems more concerned with making money and doing everything to belittle the club at every opportunity and a manager who seems completely clueless. I would like to add that I have never been in favour of this regime or the appointment of Pardew. At the moment I hope we get relegated in that it might force that fat c**t Ashly to sell so we can get a proper owner who cares about football and more importantly Newcastle United FC in!

  • 74 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    BelfastMagpie, come off it. there’s quite a good poster of me in front of a black board working out the theory of relativity.

  • 75 croftus5678 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    YAWN!!! same s**t different day ^^
    as far as i know no one is forcing anyone to “SUPPORT” nufc.
    but same old boo’s again same old sack this person get rid of that person bla bla bla.
    i dont think its a formation problem or a cisse/ba issue or even a substitution issue tbh as every player should be trying there hardest to win games.
    the problem is they are not hungry enough to win games and i have no idea why! it could be they get boo’d or they play too many games or they dont like the manager or a fair few other reasons that i’m sure we will not know.
    but they will come good and when on a good run the confidence will make them want to win even more unfortunatly this happens all the time to different teams just for some reason we think we should be prone to it because we have been in the prem for 2 years and there for must be title contenders ^^

  • 76 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    I’ve watched three 0-0 draws on the trot this weekend,so I doubt I would be bringing us much luck like. lol

  • 77 West Lancs Geordie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    Yes we have a big enough squad BUT there are not sufficient players of the quality required. The Board totally lacks ambition. For the sake of two or three decent players we now have a very long season ahead of us. We are now having to rely on Williamson, Obertan, Marvaux, Gosling, Perch, Amalifiano, Abeid & Shola who are simply not up to the job & with Cabaye & Benny out we simply have no playmaker to create anything. Mr Ashley has done a fine job in saving the club going the way that Leeds did but he must now dip into the coffers & bring in 4 or 5 quality players in January as well as retaining the core of Krul, Collo, Chiek, Ba, Cisse, Cabaye & Benni. Solid performers such as Saylor, Santon & Gutierez are also important but we must have good quality cover in times of injury suspension & African Nations Cup. So far as I’m concerned apart from the youngers trying to break in the rest can be traded. We don’t want to go the same way as Birmingham did the season they qualified for Europe.

  • 78 bambams // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    If you stand still you go backwards . . .

    I hope they know what they are doing !

  • 79 solano // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    TDS @53….I did misinterpret you….apologies.
    It’s interesting you mention people who live nearer and attend…I think the crowd has changed significantly in the last few years. I for instance used to attend as a st holder with 20 mates – 2 are left standing as stalwart attendees. That is my experience, for older fans disillusionment has set in as disenfranchisement and disappointment has prevailed.
    In a way, I don’t get as upset an angry as some who continue to pay money upfront and then moan at the manager when he fails. I’m hardly indifferent to defeat, but it hardly surprises me that a ‘plan’ that was so evidently set up around saving money has been shown up to be totally at odds with footballing improvement. I find it incredible that so many were willing to go along with it in the first place.
    Derek’s colour purple speech should be his epitaph.

  • 80 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    We gotta do better than blaming out current form on lack of investments in the summer!

    …it’s is the same team as last year and this time around we have alot of youngsters we didn’t really use much last season.

    We have the same manager and the same board.

    …and last time I checked we more or less use two different team in the EPL and the EL!

    For me the excuses are just not cutting it!!!

  • 81 woolerbill // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Squad is fine, pardew said that in August, check the records. It takes a strong manager to stop this fast slide, we don’t that type of man in the club.

  • 82 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    *out =our

  • 83 curmon // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    We have a number of problems that will not be solved very easily or quickly.
    1) we rely on some really substandard players to perform: Williamson being a prime example, he looks scared and lost at the same time. Sameobi is proving to be a bigger donkey than his brother, there are others but these two stand out.
    2) Pardew talks as though defeat is inevitable before recent games, this hardly instils confidence in the players let alone the fans.
    3) I think Pardew has lost the players, they look totally disinterested in putting up a fight, there is no aggression or willingness to make themselves available for a pass . they do not track back , we give the ball away too much because there are limited passing options.
    4) given that several players seem to have lost their commitment to the cause, I can see several of them leaving in the next two transfer windows, especially the ones we want to keep, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa , Colo, Ba and Krul will all be gone within a year. MA will not sign any decent replacements.
    5) I cannot see us picking up more than three or four points between now and the end of the year which will pitch us into a relegation battle, which in turn will exacerbate the problems outlined in the first four points above.

    I wish this was untrue, but I fear the writing is on the wall for a truly awful slump.

  • 84 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Croftus how can they not be hungry enough after two home defeats and a mediocre Europe league draw? We are a shambles and have three very hard games coming up in around a fortnight. Before you know it Gld the season is gone and it heaps of pressure on the second half of the season.

    I fail to see what Pardew is bringing to the table right now, I don’t want him sacked I wan him to sort the mess out, be humble and prove his worth. Same as any player that isn’t pulling his weight. We have a big squad yet so it’s. one in one out policy. Be ruthless and get rid of the dross, I thought the days of carrying deadwood where gone. Turns out we don’t mind carrying deadwood if it isn’t costing us much money……

  • 85 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Big surprises in January Transfers? Probably like the last three. No surprise there.

  • 86 Jail for Ashley // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    ”Well you know it ain’t easy in the Premiership and jugglin wif the Europa it’s tuff it’s really tuff, we’ve had some tuff games over the last few weeks make no mistake (West Ham,Swansea and Maritimo) and it showed,the long journey to the Sarf coast aint helped either (an hours flight)maybe we could do with getting one or two players over the line in January,but its always a difficult market then,and when the big clubs like Liverpool and Spurs are around your always vunerable at the last minute.We’ve got a few players in the building who need to step up to the plate,players who wouldn’t normally get a game,they’ve got to show some guts “

  • 87 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    I’m not in favour of sacking Pardew like.

    But if they were going to sack him,I’d rather they done it now & not 2 months down the line,when we could be even worse.

    I’d still be very suprised if they did sack him at any point this season.

    Just don’t see it happening.

    Though if it did happen,I’d be in fear of who his replacement would be,somebody like Mcleish or bringing back Joe Kinnear,would probably be on the cards. lol

  • 88 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    I was about to party because of a wonderful accomplishment today. Then Tiote had to go and get booked in the last 20 minutes.

  • 89 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    a boycott of the ground will force him out. nothing else.

  • 90 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    January window will the same old crap.

    You have to pay more in January,and them lot are obsessed with paying less.

    Plus do we not already have our purple chip quota ?? ;)

    Wouldn’t get your hopes up..

  • 91 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    does anyone really think the FCB will get his cheque book out in January ? Get real ! we are still waiting for him to spend the £25m left from the AC sale which we were promised would be re-invested , or has it been spent turning SJP into a tacky SD advert ? He will continue to bleed OUR club until he slings his fat cockney hook

  • 92 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    stuart no9, Ha ha. Here we go again. Boycott the ground? St James’? No NUFC fan would ever let NUFC play in an empty ground.

  • 93 xmindcrimex // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    I’m glad the stream didn’t work for me. Sounded like a performance akin to the two previous PL games. The team is in a really bad rut. For me, it’s naive to think this is only Pardew’s fault. It’s the players out there who should be doing the job, and they aren’t working at the moment.

    Would things have been different with a few extra players in during the summer? Who knows. Do injuries take it’s toll on any team out there? It probably does.

    I still believe in my club, but don’t get me wrong, I think this form is worrying. Hoping for better days.

    What I do know, is that the players are most likely more annoyed/angry than any fan out there (except those with psychological issues of course).

  • 94 Spreadthetoon // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth
    Sorry but I have not called for anyone to be sacked from the club, AP or anyone esle. Furthermore, last season I was delighted how we played and what we achieved. We played some attractive football. I ain’t even seen half a match this season that even comes near that quality….so I feel I have the right to be disappointed….it does not mean that I am not supporting the team…..but in truth fans need to express their frustration…..you have your ups and your downs true, but this is something else. We’ve been in a trough all this season and have been very lucky with the points we picked up…..Liverpool, WBA and Everton…well that 7 of our 13 points. Point illustrated….?

    Mattynufc
    Well not sure if I am in total agreement with respect to AP. He did get LMA best manager last year. Its a tricky time and we’ve got a thin squad. But some horrendous mistakes were made….selling Leon Best(ok he is injured) was not the “Best” idea! We did not replace a great deal of players and last year we were lucky in that we only sustained one major injury with Saylor…this season is completely opposite. I cannot tell you how annoyed I was with the board during this last transfer window….now we’ve gotta do the best we’ve got. Also I believe morale is low in the team and I think Ba has too much power in his contract. He is dictating the shape of the team to AP…hence 442. He should play 4-3-3 or 3-4-1-2. AP needs to lead and manage the team…that’s his job….no one player is bigger than the team….so if BA wants to go elsewhere he can….either commit to the toon and put up and shut up and play for the team. Need a LW, 2 CB, CAM, ST ……seriously but unlikely to happen.

  • 95 ramboreilly // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    This is high treason you are all talking.billson will have your heads.

  • 96 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    Last season around the same time we had a similar run of results.

    19 Nov 2011 Man city Lost 0pts
    26th Man united Drew 1 pts
    3 Dec Chelsea Lost 0 pts
    10 Dec Norwich Lost 0pts
    17 Dec Swansea Drew 1 pt
    21West Brom Lost 0pts

    2 points from 6 games last season at a similar time of year, blimey we are good around the festive time of the year

  • 97 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    JFA – did he really say that ( I wouldn’t be surprised ) or is it a piss take ? anyway its the twat at the top who needs to be blamed for this shambles . AP is losing the plot but if he’d been allowed to sign the players desperately needed last summer I am sure we wouldn’t be in this mess

  • 98 giimps // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    The yids have just won after losing 3 of their last 4, anyone of their fans crying for the managers head…………er …..no.
    I may have black and white glasses on but even I cant enjoy this tripe “hoofball” but that is what happens when we only have 2 in cm, and players like willo and Saylor who panic on the ball.
    Once we have Collo to control the ball in defence/midfield we should be ok (not a surprise that our 3 defeats have been when he is missing).
    Anyone have any idea when Cabaye is back as I have heard it could be January but also it could be 2 weeks?
    HWTL

  • 99 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    GG

    Were have you been anyway??

    Did you retire from the blog??

    Or did you quit the blog & have a dramatic exit ? ;)

  • 100 catchy in norway // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    you lot that are blaming injuries

    im totally lost on this, and must be totallly stupid so please explain

    what has injuries got to do with the style of football we played last season and this season,,

    you can blame injuries right now if you like, but how is that to blame for us not creating many chances
    or being able to pass the ball to each other,,,

    you takl about january its all gona be fine and dandy,,
    what if we dont buy anyone but sell a player

    what happens if we bring in 3 and sell 3

    we have to look at what we have right now, not think about 5th place on a table laast season, the performances were poor but the results good,, that only pappered over the cracks of how poor we played,,

    yehhhhhhh we finished 5th, and its all the boards fault for not investing,

  • 101 croftus5678 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    looked over a few of the games we have played this year wins/draws/losses and in honesty the players that seem to work the most for us and try to win most of the time are santon/collo/tiote/guti/bigi/arfa/and ba the rest in some occasions only seem to want to play when we are doing well inc krull who imo needs to improve in his mentality of kicking it upfield which is where i think the fans have the opinion we are a longball club.
    stuck guti in there as a hungry player but not saying he’s best suited as he wins tons of fk’s but is not the best passer to be played on the wing or in the middle imo.

  • 102 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Spreadthetoon – only one person who was responsible for selling those players and refusing to buy replacements , its the fat twat who lines his pockets at every opportunity

  • 103 check the toastie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Personally believe the only thing Ashley has got badly wrong lately is the 8 year contract to Pardew, we are recruiting some top players IMO and also have some good young uns coming through.

    The only problem is the setup of the team and how they are instructed to play. Sound some decent managers out about if they would like to work under Derek and if they do then sack the clown and employ someone else, i genuinely believe we couldnt get any worse under anyone. The team seems to have lost the plot.

    Players are not stupid, they can see he has his favorites even though they are shit, and as such respect is then lost, he seems to have lost the players for me. Very strange, i mean why was he sacked from Soton after a good season and a 4nil away win, clearly an arrogant man, and personally if he was made of chocolate he would probably eat himself.

    His luck has ran out and now his results are reflecting his talents.

  • 104 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    Question – how many times have we played well in the PL this season . How many of the points we have were deserved ? Fact is the so called “purple players” are just not as good as most people think , even at best we are mid table , at worst we are back where the FCB took us a few years ago

  • 105 chris // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    at the end of the day we are not good enough when we have the likes of cabeye collo benny our strongest back 4 we are still playing poor football pardew carnt get the best out of the players if pards was to go sacked or to leave off his own back carnt see any good managers wanting the job but we need a motorvator and a manager that only noes one way to play football is attacking football pardew had 13-14 games and has not got us playing any different he is no better than mark hughes we could of done with harry

  • 106 breno95 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    The threads off Ed are very exaggerated.
    Let’s get things right here. Including all competitive matches so far we have played a total of 6 extra games this season than last. Yes, they are the EL games but bloody he’ll 6 extra games to date on which a large number of changes to players fielded has occurred.
    Main problem so far has been the lack of a consistent 11 end of.
    As for Stuart no 9 you need to grow up son. Unless you have a spare 1 billion burning a hole just shutup with your boycott bollocks.
    As for Robinho I am sure you may well work in the ‘city’ (which major financial corporation is it?) but your info from your dinner was from a third party source and not the big man himself. He is not that stupid to want see the club drop of EPL as the financial rewards from next year are massive.
    Bad spell of which none on here know why exactly. All can do is bitch, moan and shout for peoples head. Please therefore either belt up or simply shut up or get yourself down to the bank and put your money where you can then do something?

  • 107 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    CTT – so not allowing AP to sign any of the players he has needed ( Debuchy , AC , Douglas etc ) is OK is it ? Having a threadbare squad is acceptable ? Ripping out £40m in transfer profit despite promises to the contrary ? Get real man , the blokes a complete thieving , lying twat

  • 108 barry_ben_arfa // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    ————Krul————–
    Debuchy—Douglas—Colo—Santon
    ——Cabaye—Tiote—-
    ———Sissoko————-
    Ben Arfa————Zaha/ Marin/ Boudebouz
    ———Cisse————–

  • 109 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    Since Alan Pardew signed a 8-year deal on Sept 28, #NUFC have won just one of eight PL games (WBA) & taken just 6 points from 24.

    I blame the contract.. ;)

  • 110 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    BelfastMagpie, I’ve been following. But like I said. I got peed of with same old same old. (The abuse against one another).

  • 111 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    “It’s my biggest test at Newcastle. If we ever needed the best fans in the world, it’s now. We’re really in a hole and need them.” Alan Pardew after the match today.

    I don’t think I need to say anymore really, a large number of you will ignore this, but it’s only detrimental to your team.

    Lets get behind our team.

  • 112 Dannyo // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    In the heat of the battle on here, i would like to add something which i mentioned before the Maritimo game.

    I do think Anita has potential in the same exact position as Cabaye. He’s got a good shot and great pace to use.
    I said that then and it was proven today. When pushed up in the midfield slightly he became alive.

    Thats it, carry on!

  • 113 Ashton // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Pardew nuthuggers are so pathetic it’s unbelievable!!. Even with our injuries and suspension we still had a better squad than Southampton’s today. I don’t mind losing as long as we try and show some desire to win a game. But we are not doing that at the moment. We were utterly shambolic against a very-poor-second-from-bottom-shit-tier-defense team. They absolutely dominated us and we were so lucky to get away with a 2-0 defeat. They hit the woodwork like 5 times and scored a perfectly good goal that was ruled out for an offside, and they should’ve had at least two penalties!! Just think about that for a second!!

    It is not acceptable!! And it’s all our managers fault. Just admit it and stop being so stupid.

  • 114 Jail for Ashley // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Robino,
    Ha ha ,just a p!ss take,but that’s what I expected him to say, MOTD will be interesting tonight,but seriously I’m not calling for his head,I know we served up some dross last season but we done ok toward the end,I think he had an idea of how he wanted to shape the team and got badly ,badly let down of either Mashley or Dastardly or both,I’d much rather Dastardly went than Pards and I think that’s likely after Pards was given a deal like that,but you never know if a four match losing streak forfeits the contract,but I think those wishing Pards gone should really be careful what they wish for,I really don’t think Martinez would come anywhere near us ,he seems to have far too much loyalty to Dave Whelan,so who would we get,as I think Solano pointed out Macleish,Hughes,tbh I don’t think a manager with any integrity would come within a mile.

  • 115 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    so if AP gets fired who is going to come and manage with those 2 lying muppets in charge – oh yes of course , JFK!!

  • 116 nobby sol // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    4 players IN

    BIG CENTRE HALF
    RELIABLE LEFT BACK
    GOALSCORING MIDFIELDER
    PACEY TECHNICAL STRIKER

    Im talking;

    DOUGLAS 2 Million (1 year left)
    ERIK PIETERS 3 Million
    SIEM DE JONG 15 Million
    MIRALEM SULEJMANI 5 Million (1 year left)

    will not happen but that would sort us right out

    think about this

    ——————-Krul
    Santon Douglas Coloccini Pieters
    ——–Tiote DeJong Cabaye
    –BenArfa——————Sulejmani
    ———————BA

    goals from everywhere

    would we spend 25 million though? well simple maths tell us we have 25 million left from the ANDY CARROLL sale which I for one have not forgot about.

  • 117 Ashton // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    And this obsession with the 442 and hoofball is costing us a lot. It’s not normal because even when he only has one fit striker he plays 442!! How is this even possible is beyond me.

    I’ve noticed that casual fans don’t want to see us play anymore because we are so boring and shit. We will go no where with such tactics.

  • 118 Jail for Ashley // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    Robinio,
    Are you JFA’s other name that he didn’t know he had.

  • 119 puretoon // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    Wasn’t it Ashley who sacked Hughton for ‘lack of ambition’??? now who’s showing a lack of ambition? and what’s Pard being telling the new players to get them here? if it’s the ‘we’re full of ambition and determined to be in Europe’-then I feel sorry for them as they’ve been fed porkies.
    And for those who said a while back Ashley and Llambias have learned about running a football club are talking shite! they DON’T want to know and never will do! ££££££’s is the only language they both understand which does not mean buying best players!
    Those two showed their true colours when they were sitting laughing when we were losing at home to Man U-disgusting!

    Ashley’s got to go and take LLambias with you. No decent manager will ever work with those two.

  • 120 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    Conaldo mate were trying but its hard at the moment. The fans really tried to get behind the lads at the last home game but then we conceded or did something absolutely ridiculous and then its like oh ffs here we go again. The atmosphere has gotten worse since last season as have our performances. We need a spark because the stuffing has been well and truly knocked out of us fans. Its been a while since ive seen so many glum faces at sjp I wasnt surprised many walked after the second goal last week, i prefer to stay and judge how the team respond. Thats two late goals i have witnessed whilst many fans have left, cisse off his bum and bas header

  • 121 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    Fact – no way will the Fat one spend big ever , I remember being on here in the summer when you lot were all wetting yourselves at the prospect of all those big signings ….what happened ??? F*** all

    To all those who continue to support the FATONE – you fully deserve this utter dross , until he leaves nothing will change . Last season was a one off , this season is reality

  • 122 shearer 9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    Was at the game today and we played so bad. Saints had it easy did not trouble the defence

  • 123 Jarra // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    When Houghton was sacked I agreed with it as I honestly perceived he had taken us as far as he could, when he was replaced by Pardew I was shocked. However hand on heart he won me over with his honesty and I believe we played well last season. With the backing of Ashley we bought well not by huge investment but in the quality we brought into the club. This season has been a shambles why I hoestly do not know, the obvious points have been raised by many tactics, injuries, lack of transfer quality brought in. Is it fixable now that is the big question, I don’t think replacing the manager is the answer certainly not at this stage, I also don’t think the injuries have helped but in saying that those who are injured have not been the same players this season except for Collo. New players would help if they were of quality, but will the quality come here after the lack of ambition was shown in the summer again I do not know. What I do know is like the majority of you I am gutted the way this season has turned out yet on Wednesday I will be rooting for them to give me some hope they can turn it round, though my confidence in that is low at the moment, but I do hope.

  • 124 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    Nick – to be honest, the atmosphere last season was poor aswell.

    I just don’t see how anyone can call us the best fans in the world anymore, we aren’t.

  • 125 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    JFA – I just despise the fat thieving bastard and his wreckage of our club

  • 126 indian // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    im Indian and all my friends support d top 4 as is the tradition Here….but i always stuck by newcastle …..and today im absolutely hurt ….im angry …and im close to crying to….I’ve been a positive one…..i ain’t a doom monger ..but today the lads let me down ….oh my i might cry

  • 127 Jail for Ashley // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Check,
    If I’m reading your comment correctly you seem to exonerating Mashley of any blamefor our current situation,mentioning the good players he has brought here but leaving out the bit about the ones he hasn’t,so in your eyes was last summer a success with future stars Anita,Bigi and Good being brought in.

  • 128 shearer 9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    He shags when he wants he shags when we waaants Alan pardew he shags who he wants

  • 129 Ashton // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    nobby sol

    You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Douglas is like an error prone version of Williamson. He is better than Willo on the ball but he is stupid and doesn’t have a good concentration. Every time I see him play he does something so dumb that it makes you laugh out loud.

    Pieters is injury prone and has legs of glass. He is also slow and bad at marking his opponent. He will get killed in the PL.

    De Jong; we don’t need him and if we got him we will play him out of position because we don’t play with attacking central midfielders. Also 15mil ?? Are you having a laugh?

    Sulejmani is shit and lazy. And we don’t need wingers. Also lol’d hard at 5 mil.

    You have no clue what you are talking about.

  • 130 breno95 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Robino
    Who is MA thieving off?
    He owns the bloody club and it’s him who has put 250million into it to date.
    As for transfers what would you it rather be. No interest shown in any window for any player or interests pursued at a level the exec’s think is appropriate and then go back 6 months later and get the same targets for a lesser fee?
    Just curious.

  • 131 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Puretoon , again well said mate , you me and Stuart no9 all of the same mind . I am absolutely effing speechless at those on here still supporting the FCB and his lying , odious cohort

  • 132 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Sly, spiv, puppet Pardew – out!

  • 133 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    breno – he is thieving off us fans and our 130 yers of heritage , he will stop at nowt when it comes to £££££ – SDA and Wonga for F***s sake

  • 134 BelfastMagpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    I think Ashley & Llambias think giving the manager a 8 year contract is a statement of intent.

    Signing 3/4 top players would be a much better statement of intent in my opinion. ;)

    I’m not actually really that shocked at the situation we find ourselves in,at the minute.

    It was always a possibility after the summer transfer window.

    Always a few injuries/suspensions away from a crisis with the current squad.

    It was the same last year,but we got lucky & managed to get away with it.

  • 135 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    And if we can unite to reclaim the club and cut the root of the cancer out, even better.

  • 136 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    What makes a group of fans the best fans though? support? singing the loudest? Since the days of SBR a good season for us has been few and far between. For me Hughton had it easy with Nolan, Carroll, Barton and Collo. A team full of fight and leadership which narrowly missed out on 7th. Pardew took over and our fifth place finish for me lies more at the hands of both our strikers ability to score out of nothing and save our bums on many occasions. Fans are fickle, its easy to sing when your winning and no so easy when times are hard. If the players had some fight it would lift us fans. We are getting nothing in return for our support and like i said it has knocked the stuffing out of us. We haven’t just stopped singing overnight, its happened over a period of time. I would love a standing area at sjp and also a good performance to go with it

  • 137 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    geordiegerman @89 well in that case they will just have to suffer and stop moaning about it, if they are not prepared to remedy it.

  • 138 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    breno – which targets do you think he will bring in cheaply in January , and why do a club of our size and income with a mega wealthy owner , need to be penny pinching ? its disgraceful , we should have bought them in the summer and had a decent stab at emulating last season . Even if ( and hugely unlikely given past record ) he does buy in January , this season cannot now be salvaged as we will be bottom 3 by then

  • 139 breno95 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Bollocks.
    If results of the last 3 games were reversed you lot would all be singing the praises of AP as well as MA & DL.
    Let’s just wait and see what does happen in January.

  • 140 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Wizard…it’s true we need to get behind the team, that’s all we can do, but Pardew and the team need so sort themselves out – that’s their job and responsibility.

    …everyone tries to find excuses, that being us fans or Pardew himself. He’s the silver supremo, he’s in charge and her picks the team, decide the tactics and chooses the formation.

    …If he wants help with that he can always call ;) untill then all I can do is support the team, but I will say we play OK when we don’t especially when i got the impression after 30 min. that Pardew had given up!

  • 141 Transfer Sage // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    The transfer policy is fine. The problem is the way it is implemented.

    If we want to pay a small few for players that’s fine. It can be done with the likes of Ben arfa (causing trouble at his club), cabaye (release clause) or cisse (fear if relegation and losing him for nothing). It can’t be done with every single player we pursue.

    The board/scouting system need to identify 2/3 targets for each position that the manager would be happy to have then make sure one of them is brought in.

    You can’t get a perfect deal in every player. You might wait a year and get them cheaper but that extra million or two could change a season.

    Imagine if we never bought cisse last year cause they wanted 10 not 9 million. That could have left us mid table and not fifth.

    There is a balance to be struck between financial responsibility and football responsibility and I don’t think the owner has found it yet.

    Nobody expects 35million for a hazard or rvp but debuchy is a France international so why is 6/7 million too much to pay? It’s about par.

    Pardew needs a lot of help in January.

    Also he and the players need to up their game as something is going wrong as this l current squad, with or without injuries is better than its showing.

  • 142 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    * not

  • 143 beefman13 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    I’ve managed to calm my passions in the last couple of hours, question for me is have we got enough strength in depth at this moment, I will still say we have enough back up, I think the fact that we have already qualified for Europa league last 32 unbeaten so far shows we have decent squad members who can do a decent job, I realise the premiership is a different kettle of fish and I realise without doubt we need at least two real quality signings in January no excuses for this will not be accepted by any of us toon fans and I understand that totally, injuries and suspensions do hurt for sure, but we need quality back up without doubt, I like most others I would say are not happy with our footy at the moment for sure, AP has to look at his formations and tactics ie 442 and cissa/ba up front together, we need to take another deep breath yes another one get the second half of the season firing and finish the season in style, I believe we still can, after all this is the toon and it would not be the same without a bit of controversy!!!!

  • 144 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    breno – get real , we have been waiting for the last 2 years . we are already in a false position ( WBA , Everton , Reading etc) . Everyone apart from the totally deluded knew this was ion its way , the cracks were there last season ( were you at Fulham , Norwich and Wigan ) and it was only serious investment that would have prevented it . Very sadly we will NEVER get that from Ashley – he couldn’t give a shit about the fans

  • 145 woodsee // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Good news lads,heard ashley is now anorexic

  • 146 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    he will ALWAYS be a fat cockney bastard as far as I am concerned LOL

  • 147 nobby sol // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Ashton

    you seem to have douglas mistaken with bramble

    De jong price tag is pure estimate dont get me wrong, but from what ive seen he is an incredible player and would give us a figure head in the centre which at the moment we dont have, A fellaini type role if you like, someone who can dominate midfields. id say hes worth 20-25 but purely as hes in the dutch league he surely could be gotten for less.

    Pieters has had a couple of niggles, I agree but he is a solid performer more so than simpson, and it would certainly benefit santon to be moved to right back

    finally sulejmani was a pure off the top of the head thought, i think he is very talented if the right man can get it out of him, wether pardew could do that, who knows? and as for his price tag, he’s probably worth 10 milion but giving that his contract expires in the summer, 5 would be fair id say, also having skimmed through a few comments the idea of wilfred Zaha came to me which would perhaps be a more suitable option

    ———————–KRUL
    SANTON DOUGLAS COLOCCINI PIETERS
    ——TIOTE DEJONG CABAYE
    BEN ARA________________ZAHA
    _____________BA

    that is Sh1t hot

    hey but what do I know what im talking about ;)

  • 148 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    breno95@106 are you another total idiot who thought if ash had not bought the club when he did NUFC and the world would be no more ?? haha. wake up bonny lad, there are still a few people around with a few bob to buy a football club. i despair mate i really do. nufc has been here longer than ash, and will be here when he is gone . get a grip fella.

  • 149 woodsee // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    seriously,saw him at the ground today and thought it was jarvis cocker

  • 150 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    nobby sol – pure fantasy mate , not a cats of that sort of expenditure in January , prob not even in the next 5 windows with the fat thief in charge

  • 151 woodsee // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    horrifying fact is that even if we go down,jarvis will stick with pardew

  • 152 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    Woody – didn’t realise Jarvis was such an ugly twat !!!

  • 153 nufc 11 // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    It looks like that 8 year deal 4 AP cud be gaff of the year, everything has seemed to pear shape since that and the Wonga deal, to be fair to AP he can only do so much players have alot to answer 4 its nearly two diff team playing on thursday and sundays so i dnt by this tired crack, We look far to easy to score against leaking goals all over the place i dnt S.taylor is up to the job the one ting we were looking for in the summer was a CB and we had the Douglas deal almost tied up only to fall through over brinksmanship or wathever but its costing big time now. Wonder how long MA will stay loyal to AP we results continue………..

  • 154 nobby sol // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    robinio i know pal, but i like to dream, major changes must be made to the team if we want to qualify for the europa again nevermind think of the champions league

  • 155 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    nob – changes at the top are what we need , some one with just a shred of ambition would be good

  • 156 Toonacious T // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    Transfer Sage- welllk said mate.
    This blog has too many posters who see everything as black or white. The two views are not mutually exclusive. MA’s penny pinTransfer Sage- welllk said mate.
    This blog has too many posters who see everything as black or white. The two views are not mutually exclusive. MA’s penny pinching has exposed the fact that, imo, many of are squad players are currently not ready for EPL level of challenge, they can get by at Europa League group stage but unlike a Sterling at Liverpool, they are found wanting in domestic football. Pardew’s tactical ineptitude has compounded the problem and exacerbated the situation. I also feel he has failed to figure out how to motivate are big players who were left bitterly disappointed by the lack of ambition shown by the owner to bring in the player that would have gave us the platform to challenge the top six again.

  • 157 woodsee // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    we were born within an hour of each other
    they said you could be mybig brother
    your name was lambs arse lambs arse
    and it suited ya
    and they said that when you grew up
    youd grow a beak and peck like a duck

  • 158 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    Woody – what the F***s that , some dodgy pulp song ????

  • 159 Ashton // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    nobby sol

    I bet you’ve never watched those players play. Douglas is a slow version of Bramble. De jong is not a Fellani type of player. He plays behind the striker and his game is all about passing and making little triangles and space. We don’t do that in our team!! So he will be useless for us because we will never play the style of football that he likes. Not under Pardew at least.

    Pieters is not that much of an improvement on Simmo. We can do better than him. And Sulejmani is awful. And he can’t get a game at Ajax because he sucks and is too lazy and fat and shit.

  • 160 Toonacious T // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Sorry, this phone is shit. Messed up my post and Worst of all I made the dreaded ‘are’ and ‘our’ mistake……….twice! Grrrrrr.

  • 161 woodsee // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    and ashley do you recall
    how your knob was very small
    you were round not very tall
    and when derek came round to call
    he used to roll you down the hall

  • 162 Toonacious T // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Barca coming on SS1 in a few. Will have to watch this to remind myself what a string of passes looks like!

  • 163 West Lancs Geordie // Nov 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    AP will not be sacked MA gave him an 8 year contract because he knows he can manipulate him & he won’t resign -would you in his position? Also accept MA is here to stay unless he gets an offer he can’t refuse. So get behind the team & forget all this talk about boycotts & demonstrations. What good is that going to do? Have we got a better squad on paper than West Brom & Everton? Of course we have but they are playing for each other & battling. We’ve got too many players like the 6 foot 4 weekling at the back who simply has no heart & is not good enough. Everyone raves about Benni who admitedly can turn a game but 4 me doesn’t contribute enough (bit like Robert & Ginola) & Ba & Cisse just can not play together. Agree totally with Curmon (83) all 5 points. Prepare for little buying activity in the window. MA will Probably swop Ba for AC & a very bumpy ride to the end of the season as we are playing worse at the moment than the season we went down. Everybody ready for the transfer window crap where we are after loads of quality players but they never materialise?

  • 164 moonraker // Nov 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    Getting beat by West Ham, Swansea and now Southampton is very worrying; we could soon be in a relegation fight along with the Mackems and Villa . We havent got enough quality especially in midfield,you cant rely on Tiote as he’s always suspended or injured; we havnt replaced Guthrie although he wasnt great he was better than Anita or Bigs! I’m now wondering if they continue to buy young prospects it wont work! needs established quality asap!!!

  • 165 Toonacious T // Nov 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Agree with all except point 4 of Curmon’s post at 83. Can’t see all those players leaving within a year like. Also, has MA realised that their value will plummet if they keep putting in substandard performances every week until the end of the season?

  • 166 Widowmaker // Nov 25, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Many have mentioned that PA is the same manager who got us fifth last season. Okay, that part is true, but anyone saying no one critised him is making themselves a fool. There were actually had opinion that luck played a big part in our last season.

    No, it is not the end of world, but do I enjoy th football played under PA? I am afraid not. Forget about results, I can not find a good word ATM.

  • 167 nobby sol // Nov 25, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    ashton

    Ive seen all those players play on numerous occasions,

    fellaini plays behind the striker you moron,

    i agree, we dont play fancy passing but have players capable of it, cabaye and benarfa for eg, and adding de jong would top that off.

    douglas has been outstanding in games ive seen, powerful, strong , aerially great, can offer us some hope from corners

    pieters is far, far better than simo, hes a sturdy performer

    and sulejmani given the right tactics is unplayable, anyways i have changed him for ZAHA in my wishlist

  • 168 West Lancs Geordie // Nov 25, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Get real Zaha is never goin to cum to the Toon now. It’ll be £15M + & he’ll go to a “big club”.We should have bought him when we first showed an interest. Give Simo a new contract unless we are prepared to buy someone better. Need at least two quality centre backs (perhaps Douglas & the lad from Montpelier) as Willo will never be good enough & Saylor is injury prone. Need quality fullback (say Pieters or Debuchy) as additional not as replacements for existing. Need pacy forward (Defoe/Sturridge ilk) & a winger that can get to byline and drill it across or stand it up to maximise Ba & Cisse potential. WE all know what’s need but will the man with the money speculate to accumulate?Not seen it thusfar. Albeit he has put the club on a firm financial footing. Will he now build on it? Probably not. Just hope he is listening to some of the “constructive” comments made by some of the “patient” fans.

  • 169 Ashton // Nov 25, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    nobby sol

    Fellaini is not the same type of player as De Jong you mumbling idiot. Fellaini is the strongest and most powerful player in the league and he is also the best at winning long balls. He uses these tools to be as effective as he can. De Jong is totally different in the way he play and what he brings to his team.

    Long story short; you are an idiot.

  • 170 Crawfordladd17 // Nov 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    Get in 4 players
    Chadli+ Douglas £5m
    Debuchy £6m
    A striker no idea
    £11m and we spend £10m on one player in January last year .

  • 171 nobby sol // Nov 25, 2012 at 10:59 PM

    Ashton
    you sir are the incompetent retard here, I have not said de jong is the same as fellaini, what i have said is that de jong has the ability to dominate midfields much like fellaini does and diame for that matter. he can be a figure head in the middle of the park, someone who can drive us forward, he genuinely in my opinion is one of the finest midfielders in the world, he can do everything.

    i think when you develop the ability to read and understand the written word youd accept that im correct.

    long story short; why are you even bothering to argue you fool , a midfield 3 of tiote dejong and cabaye would be the most powerful force in the galaxy,

  • 172 kennygray65 // Nov 26, 2012 at 5:21 AM

    Newcastle’s players seem to lack motivation this year especially since Pardew got his eight year deal. Not one good 90 minute performance from them so far this season and too reliant on hoofing long aimless balls forward hoping something will fall for Ba or Cisse.

    Ashley bought Newcastle as an investment not as a hobby and will never be one to spend money freely.

  • 173 tonesy25 // Nov 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM

    Its pretty obvious that our only tactic at the moment is hoof ball which is not working at all and i really believe we are missing Raylor for the set peices as no one else seems to do a thing with them!

  • 174 Ashton // Nov 26, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    nobby sol

    Lol’d hard at calling De Jong one of the finest midfielders in the world. He isn’t getting a sniff at the Dutch national team. And is no where near as good as you think he is. Your blinding stupidity is astounding!!.

  • 175 Sav // Nov 26, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Get off Pardew’s back. He inherited some rubbish like Obertan and Xisco and is having to big-up players like SAmeobi simply because the squad is too small and short on quality. Graham Carr isn’t a miracle worker either – Anita at £6 mil is not great – he’s no better than Perch, who owes his resurgence to Pardew. But the biggest problem is the shortsightedness and barrow-boy stinginess of Mashley and his bookie’s runner. We needed reinforcements like General Custer in the summer. EVERYONE said so – including a diplomatic Pards. We got a midfielder/utility player untested in the Prem. Now those chickens are coming home to roost.
    (No disrespect to young Anits. If the team was playing well, he’d fit in almost as well as Danny Guthrie. But as it is he’s not making the difference we need.)

  • 176 numba9 // Nov 27, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    We won’t sign the needed players in jan neither . He hasn’t spent much of the Carroll Nolan cash atall greedy pig




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