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Slumping Newcastle Lose Again: 2-0 To Southampton

5:26 pm, Sunday, November 25th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 80 Comments

Newcastle went down to their third successive defeat today at second bottom placed Southampton by two goals to nil, and in truth Southampton were the better side and deserved to win this game, and they are now only 3 points behind a slumping Newcastle in the Premier League table on 14 points, having won their last two games.

That’s just one point for Newcastle from the last 12 played for in the league, and alarm bells will be ringing at Newcastle – and if they’re not they should be – and the strange thing is when we started this string of four games at Liverpool, Alan Pardew had said he was hoping to pick up lots of points against teams lower down in the table than Newcastle.

Newcastle made a bright start to the game, but after about 15 minutes Southampton started to come more and more into the game, and it was no surprise when they scored, though their captain Adam Lallana.

It was a long ball into the box that started it, and Krul came out to kick it clear, but Nathaniel Clyne collected the ball and tried a shot and Williamson did well to head the ball away, but it went to Jack Cork, who squared it nicely to Lallana who put the ball home..

It was 1-0 at the break and again Newcastle started the second half brightly, but again Southampton started to take control and they went further ahead after 59 minutes.

Two players that Alan Pardew had signed for Southampton – Puncheon and captain Lallana – had very good games, and linked up well down the left hand side, and Puncheon put in a low cross which Tim Krul couldn’t hold, and it was too easy for Ramirez to tap the ball home – a bad mistake from the Newcastle goalkeeper.

Newcastle tried to come back in this game, and Santon was unlucky not to get his first goal for the club, when goalkeeper Gazzaniga made a great save from the Italian’s far post header, which looked like a certain goal – and that was unlucky for Newcastle and Santon.

But the time ran out and a third successive defeat in four games when manager Alan Pardew said he had hoped to pick up points and climb the league table in these four games.

The opposite has happened, and we are now down to 14th position and have another tough game at Stoke City on Wednesday night.

To be fair, Newcastle are without a number of their top players – but this is what happens to your league form when Newcastle get back into Europe and the squad is not strengthened from last season.

We are now paying the price for the mistakes made in the summer, when the Newcastle Board failed to bring in three or four new players to fortify the squad.

But the games are now coming thick and fast, and the lads will just have to do the best they can until some of our big guns return.

We just have to hope that this terrible slump can be ended – sooner rather than later – and we don’t fall too far down the table.

In the last six games in all competitions since that lucky 2-1 win against West Brom,  we’ve lost three and drawn three.

What was that about a top six finish this season – no chance on this form.

Teams:

Southampton (4-2-3-1): Paulo Gazzaniga; Nathaniel Clyne, Jose Fonte, Maya Yoshida, Luke Shaw (Jos Hooiveld 90+1); Morgan Schneiderlin, Jack Cork; Jason Puncheon, Adam Lallana (c), Gaston Ramírez (Steven Davis 78); Rickie Lambert (Jay Rodriguez 76)
Subs not used: Kelvin Davis, James Ward-Prowse, Emmanuel Mayuka, Guly Do Prado

Newcastle United (4-4-2): Tim Krul; Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, Steven Taylor (James Perch 90+1), Davide Santon; Jonas Gutierrez (c), Vurnon Anita (Sylvain Marveaux 67), Cheick Tiote, Shane Ferguson (Sammy Ameobi 46); Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse
Subs not used: Steve Harper, James Tavernier, James Perch, Gael Bigirimana, Nile Ranger
Referee: Martin Atkinson



Tags: Match Reports · Newcastle News · Premier League



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80 responses so far ↓

  • 1 El Tino // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    pardew should manage red bull. would give everyone else a chance

  • 2 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    I don’t think it counts as a ‘slump’ when it’s being going on since April…

  • 3 Indian Magpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    more chance of NUFC getting relegated than southampton, on this performance

  • 4 archaeomag // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    . . but it’s marginally better than the macems

  • 5 Klam3r // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    It’s called “bad management”

  • 6 mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    TDS

    give credit where it’s due: we’ve been consistently poor since the beginning of last year

  • 7 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Nezzatoonmad
    Nov 25 – 5:20 PM
    well ive sold my season ticket today for £250 and also won my bet £75 on sky bet and i also have NEWCASTLE to be relegated on a £10 bet to 250-1 since the beginning of the season and its looking good for next year im also considering making bets on who goes as-well im thinking all our so call star players, PARDEW wont be sacked and ASHLEY wont sell out

    Lol drama queen!

  • 8 archaeomag // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    @Matty LOL

  • 9 toonking // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    cofidence play a big part in form and right from the start of the season we have lost more and more.
    firstly not strengthening the squad meaning we only have a starting 11 looses confince as pardew will be cautious as to how careful we are in the most phsical league.
    secondly their is high pressure on the players to achieve what was a greater than expected achievement last season
    thirdly now that we forcing players in who are still young they have lots of pressure put on them because they know that it is easy to blame them for bad team performances
    so these have started causing losses and that has dropped confidence greatly.
    from the chelsea loss we went on a bad run last year.

  • 10 Indian Magpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    we can’t even admit to the problem, how will we solve it

  • 11 boater // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Rotonda/Matty – I repeat. The Ba/Cisse debate is a red herring of epic proportions. When both are missing gilt edged chance after gilt edged chance, we can review, but in the long run (assuming they stay) the only logical answer is that both play. Pardew’s task is to find a way his midfield can make the most of their respective talents and feed the kinds of balls they crave into them.

    We went 11 games unbeaten with Leon FLipping Best alongside Ba – presumably we all have more faith in Cisse as a top drawer performer over time, so the constant, tedious 4-4-2 invectives are pretty short-sighted on here.

    They are getting no service whatsoever – and more to the point they are not exactly keeping out all-star match winning creative midfielders by being selected. Both MUST play. It’s the midfield where all our problems start and finish.

  • 12 catchy in norway // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:32 PM

    TDS

    perch came on today
    :D

    and to be fair, not all of them have been injured since August have they,,

    and out of all of them, HBA ,SHOLA, Obertan and cabaye would have been involved, in the playing squad

    both

    COLO, suspended for being stupid,,
    toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth
    Nov 25 – 5:09 PM
    Catchy
    Just to balance it mate

    1. Tim Krul
    2. Fabricio Coloccini was injured/3 match ban
    4. Yohan Cabaye injured
    5. Danny Simpson
    6. Mike Williamson
    8. Vurnon Anita
    9. Papiss Cisse
    10. Hatem Ben Arfa injured (granted only today!)
    14. James Perch injured
    15. Dan Gosling injured
    16. Ryan Taylor injured
    17. Romain Amalfitano
    18. Jonas Gutierrez
    19. Demba Ba
    21. Rob Elliot
    22. Sylvain Marveaux
    23. Shola Ameobi injured
    24. Cheick Tiote coming back from injury plus ban (someone made a point that it takes him 3 games to hit form again after injury)
    25. Gabriel Obertan injured
    27. Steven Taylor
    37. Steve Harper
    49. Adam Campbell injured
    3. Davide Santon
    20. Gael Bigirimana
    28. Sammy Ameobi
    29. Haris Vuckic injured
    31. Shane Ferguson
    34. James Tavernier
    39. Mehdi Abeid
    42. Jak Alnwick

  • 13 The Reverend Coyote // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    What is the fecking point?! Pards has to take a look at his role in what has been another unconvincing performance. Everything about him today has been down beat and demotivating – something has to change.

    Very worried and p!ssed of!!

  • 14 Rotonda heights // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    Tads

    even you must realise it’s not just playing personnel,it’s our totally 1 dimensional manager.

    if we had messi he’d still tell them to hoof it, like pulis and allardyce – very poor dark age British managers

  • 15 mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    boater

    that’s cause besty worked his socks off for the MF.

    stick with a losing formula? no thanks.

    the question we should be asking is why we didn’t stick with a winning formula in the 433?

    i’m sure i’ll get stick for this but Pardew singlehandedly ruined our CL chances. he sensed it was so close and we lost almost every game at the tail end of last season playing a 442

  • 16 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    matty

    I disagree there. I don’t care if we play some long balls and play 442 if it actually works. But we don’t have Carroll, Shola or Best up top. We have two identical players, who are both far too selfish to play in a pair.

    I also think people are putting too much blame on the formation – I don’t think the formation makes us bad. Redknapp’s Spurs team were wonderful playing 442 for 3 years. If Pardew lined them up in 4231 or 433, they’d still be terrible, because it doesn’t appear that they work on any sort of off-the-ball movement or pressing when we don’t have it.

  • 17 Rotonda heights // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    boater

    he is paid the big bucks to remedy this, but is failing weekly

  • 18 catchy in norway // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    boater

    you can look at the midfield and say thats where the problem is,, but please look a little higher

    pardew picks 2 forwards , and gives them no supply at all

    pardew is full to blame

    no one else!

  • 19 davis_toons // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    what’s that saying?

    can’t teach a sh** manager new tactics? or dog er something er other…..

    ..I think Ap is teachable. Just like Simpson. He got to make his sub right during the game, he need someone to watch the play for him from the top view.

    During training is all movement of the players and creative will comes.

  • 20 toonbrother // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    what do youexpect when you start ferguson. disgraceful showing

  • 21 Rotonda heights // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    matty

    so true, he bottled those last 4 games completely when we were in pole position

  • 22 manxpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    whats the difference between our first 12 games last season and our first 12 games this season?

  • 23 catchy in norway // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    mattyNUFC

    the answer is easy

    BA

    he said (through his agent) if he is played out on the left he would quit the team

    pardew has no balls

    he wont stand up to the board
    he wont drop his purple players

  • 24 p // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    I think pards might be in a bit of trouble

  • 25 toonking // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    catch who is their to start in midfield and has PL xp cabaye is out for 6 weeks HBA out for two sammy and fergie are still very young marvo still need xp before he will be good

  • 26 Alan Pas-de-clue // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Repost:

    Ok guys ive been crunching some numbers and we are missing one crucial player. James perch. I have been a huge critic of him in the past but this cannot be ignored :

    With him providing stability in the midfield we have p5 w4 d1 2.6points per game (title winning form).

    with him in defence p8 w2 d4 l2 1.25 ppg (mid table)

    without him as of today we have played 8, w0 d4 l4

    They do say that with defensive midfielders they arent noticed until they have gone

  • 27 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Remaining league games this calender year:

    Stoke – AWAY
    Wigan – HOME
    Fulham – AWAY
    Man City – Home
    QPR – Home
    Man United – AWAY
    Arsenal – AWAY

    Not the easiest of games when you already have a rubbish points tally and are playing dire. If we dont get many points from Stoke, Wigan or Fulham then we are in for a torrid xmas and a real struggle in the second half of the season. Why would any player show loyalty to us? most usually dont and some players deserve more than this. Ashley needs to pull his finger out and back Pardew. Pardew has his hands tied regarding transfers but he took the job knowing that full well. He said himself it is his job to knock on the door asking for that extra player and so on….

    The players aren’t performing and he isnt getting the most out of them. The players arent just to blame, he picks the players, he trains them, he also doesnt drop them when they play bad. The recent injuries have just given him an excuse, half of the players injuried wouldn’t even get in the first eleven. He chose to play HBA in europe…

  • 28 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Manx – last season we were able to play pretty much the same team for 11 games, and had a full week to prepare for the games. And there was no pressure on them.

  • 29 IndonesiaToon // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    @boater

    in this modern era of football… LB / RB must have a good instict of scoring… swing a pass… but not to forget their main job to defend / preventing opp’s wingers…

    ours? Santon n Simpson… try to compare them both… most of opp’s creation start from our right flank…

  • 30 mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    sammy and fergie are def ones for the future

    i just think their futures lie a few leagues below

    harsh? yeah, but the players deserve all the criticism that comes there way….and AP too

  • 31 davis_toons // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    If you guys remember, last season we have got one of the best defence and Man City have got the best attack. Before we lost it to them.

  • 32 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    p

    Pardew is in no trouble at all. He’s on an 8 year deal. Do you honestly think there’s a chance in hell of him being removed?

  • 33 cockneymagpie90 // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    Some people are f stupid blaming this sh1t on ashley not backing pardew, WE HAVE KRUL, COLO,SANTON,TIOTE,ANITA,CABAYE,BEN ARFA,BA,CISSE!!!!!! HE HAS ENOUGH AMUNITION TO TO COMPETE FOR THAT 5TH SPOT!!!! ITS PARDEWS CRAP NEGATIVE TACTICS RUINING OUR TEAM!!! ROTATE BA AND CISSE IS A NO BRAINER!!!! GET HIM OUT HE IS TERRIBLE AND AT THIS RATE U CAN SEE HALF OF THEM STATED PLAYERS I JUST MENTION LEAVE IN JANUARY!!!!! FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 34 Indian Magpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    look what spurs are doing to WHU

  • 35 Tsunki // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    boater – refreshingly there is sense in this sea of hysterical tripe.

    Formations blah blah, manager blah blah – we have a pretty all at sea midfield and the ball basically bypasses it which is a shame as when we do get the odd move going we have created flashes of opportunity. Its being naive to think Pardew does not see it, but I dont think he has much choice in the selection department. Anita is now stating to get to grips so having cabs and hba back soonest should change things and we may get a preferred setup which we havent had the luxury of for some time.

    Just a note -this is nothing like the situation of the relegation year. This is much simpler – players who cant play due to inexperience and lack of familiarity so try to keep the pants dry, support the young lads not pull them down about their inexperience, and talk about sacking pardew and ousting ashley at the beginning of next season when we are in the champs with a fully fit squad and no signings. If they are all still there then I will hand out the pitchforks for everybody :D

  • 36 mattyNUFC // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    sorry for the typos. a bit heated, and have been all season. think that’s my cue to do something soothing…a nice casserole i think. some riesling too

  • 37 OhSholaAmeobi // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    It’s the way we’ve been playing football this season that’s the problem. Simpson and Williamson just love hoofing it, just admit that they’re not good enough people! Also there’s no movement other than Ben Arfa and Ba.

  • 38 toonking // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    if you wanted the same defence as the starting of last season i guess you play
    simmo-saylor-colo-raylor
    but we can’t as raylor is injured

  • 39 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    If we are going to lose games how about we did it and give us a chance of entertaining at least. We are just painfully boring to watch and finishing fifth and in europe without strengthening just showed us how ambitious the management are. When we get players back why not play

    Tiote Anita

    Cabye Ben Arfa Marveaux/Ba/Cisse
    Ba/Cisse

    We look absolutely appalling, not impressed with sammy ameobi at all. Greedy gangly player who isnt ready.

  • 40 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    Steven Taylor injured his hamstring and will probably not play at stoke.

    Dear gods of football
    F#CK OFF WITH THE INJURIES ALREADY!!!!!

  • 41 Tsunki // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    who is the new manager then? really I mean.

  • 42 boater // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Matty – he didn’t stick with 4-3-3 because he promised Ba he could play central. He would have gone otherwise by the sound of things. There is nothing desperately wrong with our defense – man for man – and Pardew has to find a way to bring the best out of his two frontmen. The problem is a tactical one in midfield. Everything else is a smokescreen.

  • 43 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    oh ffs!!!!

    Collocini is back for the next game right? Perch and collo at the back please

  • 44 IndonesiaToon // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    tsunki

    do you mean a well experienced players like Gutierrez and Simpson?

  • 45 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Catchy
    Was just balancing it out mate if your going to post a squad list you need to say which players he’s had available and yeah apart from benny most the lads mentioned have overlapped in not bieng available tbf

    And when did ba say he’d quit if we played him on the left? His agent had a pop when he was dropped

  • 46 Magpies-till-d3ath // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Hughton had 19 pts from 17 games before getting sacked. Pardew this season has 14 from 13 games. So if he doesn’t get 5 pts from the next 4 games AT LEAST!, then technically he should get sacked as well!!! He’s no more than a flukey prick!

  • 47 toonking // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    so how serious is this injury to saylor do you know?

  • 48 lordy_geordie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Repost from last thread

    Sula I do agree with you to a certain degree.
    We were so potent last season using a 3 pronged attack but Ba spits his dummy out and Pardew wants to keep him happy. It is obvious Ba had his ego battered by Cisse and Pardew wants to keep as many of his players as happy as possible. Not saying it is right and I would prefer a 3 pronged flowing attack.

  • 49 Rotonda heights // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    Boater

    he could have kept ba central and still played 433.
    Just rotate ba and cisse and play any one of marv, obi, fergi, or sammi wide left in a front 3.

    all the hoofing looks deliberate to 2 big target men and is inexcusable.

    If ashley got rid of allardye because of his anti football, where the hell does that put Pardew?

  • 50 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    robinio- i actually believe that even the hardcore ashley apologists are starting to see sense now. i hope more start to own up to the fact Ashley is the cancer spreading through this club. NOTHING will change untill we can rid the club of this disease .

  • 51 nezzatoonmad // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    relegated
    NEWCASTLE
    SCUMBERLAND
    QPR

  • 52 manxpie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    wizard exactly we had a proper settled team and we haven’t had 1 at all this season and more importantly in midfield so how all these people on HERE can’t see that as a major issue i don’t know!
    but lets sack pardew and get relegated hey!!!?

  • 53 ToonDownSouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Sitting on an internet blog calling a manager a prick seems pretty stupid to me.

    It’s not hard to be slightly constructive…

  • 54 boater // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Calls of sacking Pardew now are premature. Are we so imperious a footballing institution that we aren’t allowed to have a bad patch? This is Pardew’s first big test now as there will be some dissent amongst the terraces, and if results continue probably some players looking to distance themselves from the run of results in the press. Let’s face it, we’ve been here before many times.

    You have to back the manager by giving him the chance to turn it around – he earned it last season.

  • 55 El Tino // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    best newcastle team-

    cisse
    marveux ben arfa obertan
    tiote cabaye
    santon colo taylor simmo/anita

  • 56 nick_9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    nezzatoonmad you arent a fan at all. Placing money on newcastle to get relegated before the season has started!!!!!!!!!!!! Trying to gain financially at your own clubs misfortune. Your taking the oiss mate

  • 57 solano // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    TDS@31….I think Pardew is in real trouble and could be removed if it will save MA and Delboy from getting flak from fans.
    The 8 year deal was lauded as a fantastic foundation for stability but there will be more clauses in it than a bag full of Santas.

  • 58 check the toastie // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    We will get smashed at Stoke and then the mighty Wigan will most likely have 60% possession at our place, like last years game when somehow we scrambled a win with a late goal.

    This fall from grace is so predictable and it is ammusing to see all the ex Pardew lovers now turning on him. HE has never demonstrated any talent for getting his team playing football, went all last season and our finishing position was a massive smokescreen to our actual performances.

    Personally think he hasnt got a clue, and talented players have got his pathetic tactics and useless methods out of Jail.

    Have took pelters for the last year or so due to my dislike of the way he has managed the club, apologies in the post lads.

  • 59 Rotonda heights // Nov 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    toonking

    how will thy get experience if they don’t play?

  • 60 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    RDM out of work! what a waste- or a straight swap for o’neill?

  • 61 lordy_geordie // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    Nick 9 I agree 100%

    Nezza why don’t you do one??? Go back to your beloved scum as its obvious they’re your team!!!!!

  • 62 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Rotonda
    The likes of sammy n ferg need to go on loan we should of bought in cover and put mote youngsters on loan cos there getting swamped in the league although tbf there doing well in europe

  • 63 cockneymagpie90 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    If i was manager i would have my first team line up and formation like this

    Krul
    Simo-taylor-colo-guti
    ——tiote—-anita—-
    Benarfa-cabaye-santon
    ———-ba/cisse——-

    Perch for colo
    Marvo for benarfa
    Amalfitano for cabaye

    I would be so happy if he played that today but we are talkin about pardew here so that wouldnt happen, have a laugh!!

  • 64 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    solano @ 57 “more clauses than a bag full of santas” haha quality!

  • 65 Lee Dodd // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    We need to stop this rot – it sbeen going on for 2to long now. Get Andy Carroll Back and Kevin Nolan. we have enough french and african players. Mike Ashley Needs To Get The Fat Wallet Open or its Scunthorp and The Boro for us Next Season !!!! Sod Europe and the Europa Micky Mouse Cup We need to be in The Premier League not Advertise Sports Direct In Europe…

  • 66 drivershigh // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Sorry to add to all the negative comments on here but I have to say these past few games we have looked far from impressive. Not saying there’s a specific problem, I think many of the opinions on here could be valid (manager, formation, inconsistent players, midfield, Ba/Cisse), just so frustrating to watch a team I was so proud of last year and had many of my non-Newcastle mates praising our way of playing look so utterly clueless and second best.

    Pardew’s tactics – questionable certainly, I think the switch from 4-3-3 at the end of last season was a factor in not pushing harder for top 4. Anyone remember the West Brom game last season where we tore them apart?

    Unsettled team – yes injuries have played a big part in our downturn, but it only exposes the lack of quality underneath for me. Related to this, it is difficult playing with different squads, so is this a problem that Pardew lacked confidence in our second string to introduce them into games in a squad rotation type way?

    Ba/Cisse – No idea why things have fallen apart this season for Cisse, on paper having an international pairing up front was a great idea. If the rumours are true that Ba was unhappy at being on the left, then maybe we should have sold him and got a left winger of Ben Arfa’s quality to take his place. Although I don’t see why they can’t both play, if our midfield gave them the support they require.

    Anyways, lets hope everyone gets back fit as soon as possible, the midfield start giving Ba and Cisse what they need, Ba and Cisse find their scoring boots and we get a few new faces in January (RB, CAM and LM for me). HWTL!

  • 67 GeordieGerman // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    Did Pardew by any chance say to the players. “I have a soft spot for Southampton. So Let then win and
    avoid relegation.” ?

  • 68 woolerbill // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Religated again, that’s all we have to look forward to. I’m sorry I don’t want to be a doom merchant’s but use your brain and your heart, can you see, game by game we fall apart, please Par dew change or go, you are not good enough for the P/l.

  • 69 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    I work in the city and was at a dinner a few months back and was speaking to one of the FCB’s SD advisers who knows him well . He told me

    1 it was the worst business decision of his career buying NUFC
    2 he will sell as soon as he can get his money back
    3 he has no interest in the club whatsoever
    4 until he sells he will run with minimum investment

    so surely no surprise about our current plight

  • 70 woolerbill // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Religated again, that’s all we have to look forward to. I’m sorry I don’t want to be a doom merchant’s but use your brain and your heart, can you see, game by game we fall apart, please Par dew change or go, you are not good enough for the P/l, and the fat one.

  • 71 davis_toons // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    If given a Chance i would like ABV given a 8 years contract.

    AP really need someone to help him with the players to sub, a view form the top during the game.

    A good training regime of movement. Thats it.

  • 72 woodsee // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    How can a half decent team can so quickly go to utter shite,i say half decent because last season thats all we were and massively over achieved.
    Heres my take on it,every youngster we ever sign is built up to be the next big star and the truth is they are quite ordinary compared with other clubs.
    Senior players believin there own hype.job done last year now not interested
    Worst still to come as the deeper we get in the mire,this lot havent got the stomach for a fight
    Oh and the managers toyally clueless,and it seems that John carver is there to translate geordie,and give him the feelin of the guy on the street,i could do that PARDEW where livid

  • 73 davis_toons // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    There should be not excuse. Week In week out, you are the one who is conducting the training session. We cant be playing like this.

  • 74 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    we are actually lucky to not already be in the bottom 3 , imagine where we would be without the completely undeserved points against WBA , to say nothing of Reading , Everton and the Dirtyscousers

  • 75 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    robinio – i just wish that some fans could just stay away from the ground for 1-2 maybe 3 games. let this owner of ours know we have had enough, so sell up or we stay away , end of. it dosnt take much.

  • 76 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    I don’t mind getting beat if we show some willing, play football, a tad unlucky
    BUT NOT WHEN WE?ARE BLOODY?EMBARASMENT
    Can’t pass, can’t move off the ball, still hoof it long out of defence, to many backpasses to the keeper, basically the same clueless tactics week in week out.
    Is this the managers tatics are are the players not up to it !

    Has Pardew not noticed that the Senegalese manager vary rarely starts with both Ba and Cisse. Must be a reason.

    I can see us bottom by Christmas
    as I cannot see us picking up another point before the transfer window opens
    And if bottom what use will the transfer window be as our best players will leave.

    I have supported Pardew but my patience is getting thin.
    I’ll still turn up on Monday and give my support – but if we do not give a better account of ourselves against a Wigan team that is good on the eye to watch – I may be joining others for a change

  • 77 Robinio // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    it would certainly send a message to the dirty fat thief , hit him in his pockets , but sadly most aint got the guts to do it

  • 78 stuart no9 // Nov 25, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    robinio – you dont need guts mate.a short term blip , for a long term solution. being short sighted wont get anybody anywhere.

  • 79 oldbobaycliffe // Nov 25, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    every fan is dreaming of new additions to the squad in january but what worries me is that relegation could be a serious worry and then how many of our better players would want to leave not everyone wants to be in a relegation dogfight

  • 80 hazzy // Nov 25, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    we need a change and quick and I’m thinking it should be the manager.
    We have some excellent players just watch them play for their countries but Pardew genuinely has absolutely no idea how to coach pass and move or any form of attacking football.
    Bring in a young manager with ambitions of attacking football Lee Clarke wouldn’t be a bad choice even Sam Allardyce plays more attractive football than Pardew




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