Southampton vs Newcastle – Match Preview


Southampton are second bottom the Premier League, so we would normally expect to get all 3 points today at St. Mary’s, but with Newcastle’s form of late being so poor, and with so many of our best players out injured or suspended, we’d be happy enough with a draw.

Both our French stars Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye are injured, and Fabricio Coloccini is serving the last match of his three game ban for being sent off at Liverpool, and he will be available for our next league game, on Wednesday night at Stoke City.

But the good news is that Jonas Gutierrez is fit again and James Perch is also in full training, and both could possibly start today.

And Papiss Cisse seems to have recovered from the knock on his thigh that forced him off in the disappointing 1-1 with Maritimo on Thursday night, although with the point, Newcastle qualified for the knock-out stages of that competition.

This is a crucial game today, make no mistake about that – and another defeat would be the third in a row in the league for Newcastle, and will certainly bring all the doom and gloomers out in full force this afternoon, and Tyneside will hardly be a happy place.

It’s difficult to know exactly what side Alan Pardew will start today, but we are again going to assume the Newcastle manager will play in a 4-5-1 formation, so we can get some control of the central midfield, and build from there.

This is a possible side that starts today at St. Mary’s:

Krul
Simpson Williamson Taylor (S) Santon
Marveaux Tiote Anita Gutierrez (c) Ferguson
Ba
Subs: Elliot Tavernier Perch Bigirimana Abeid Ameobi (Sa) Cisse

We admit this would mean a more defensive formation for Newcastle, but we cannot go into games and attack like we do and keep picking up defeats, and if we can solidify the center of midfield we’ll have a much better chance of getting the win today.

Some changes to that side could be putting Demba Ba in place of Anita, and having the Senegal striker play in a more withdrawn role, and have Papiss Cisse the lone striker up front, and we would then have the goal scoring abilities of both Senegal Internationals on the field – and we need goals today.

Some stats about this game – this is the 85th meeting between the two clubs, and the 73rd in the league, and the first league game between the sides since back in January 2005, although the sides met in February 2006 at St. James’ Park in the fifth round of the FA Cup, with Newcastle winning that game 1-0, with a Kieron Dyer goal, and we saw Kieron played yesterday at Old Trafford for QPR.

This is an important game today and win would be fantastic, and a draw would be a decent result.

Let us know how you think the game will go today, and it’s interesting at the time of writing,  that 57% of fans think we’ll lose at Southampton, and only about half that percentage think we’ll get the win.

A defeat would be very very hard to take, and since it’s my birthday today that couldn’t possibly happen.

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115 comments so far

  • Super Magpie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #1

    I agree with him. But like you said, telling the players that they will be tired will just give them an excuse to not play well. And as for not hoping the squad is stretched in February; get on the phone to Llambias and Ashley and tell them you need players brought in and no f**king about either.

    I would seriously consider resigning if I was Pardew and was not allowed to bring in any players. I wouldn’t blame him either because I couldn’t work with those two in charge.

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  • Rob Hayes

    Nov 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #2

    Gotta play Perchinho in the middle next to Tiote, fergie and Marv on the wings, if we’re gonna win this we need to win the midfield battle, Ba playing just off Cisse and Get Santoon bombing forward

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  • Super Magpie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #3

    Happy Birthday Ed,
    Lets hope we can put in a good performance and win. It’s a very big ask though and we’ll be up against it from the off.

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  • jasper

    Nov 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #4

    On Thursday Maratimo, no better than a championship side, worked out that if they press us we give them the ball, either by losing it directly or via a hoof upfield
    Soton will know this and will look to get after us whenever we have the ball. They know that lack of ball retention is our Achilles heel.
    In the second half I counted only two occasions where we made 10+ consecutive passes – and on each occasion we created a good chance.
    So if we support the ball carrier, move the ball around and look for the opportunity to get a pass to feet in the box, or to get to the byline for a cross into the 6 yard box we will win. If we fall back on long balls and ambitious over optimistic dribbling with the ball (exciting but how many sorties by Santon have produced a goal?) then we will be stuffed.

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  • davybtoon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #5

    Right team today

    Krul
    Anita willo Taylor santon
    Perch tiote
    Sammi Jonas marv
    Ba

    If obertan is fit I’d hav him in there, n I would consider Nile ranger like him or hate him we need him

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #6

    Happy Birthday Ed, I hope you have a great one/

    Newcastle United….Go get them three points, pretty please.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #7

    davyb

    as little as guti does on the wings, (knowing he’s the first name on AP’s team sheet no matter what fans think) i’d switch him and marv. no way guti will provide what we need in the ACM role whereas Marv, if he’s on his game, MIGHT.

    also don’t like anita at RB either. if it were up to me i’d put perch in mike ‘how can i screw this up’ willo’s place and put the second dead-on on his team sheet simmo at RB.

    Ideally i’d like to have guti at LB, santon RB but that’s never gonna happen. otherwise, i like that team, and def agree about having Nile on the bench. no time for politics

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  • keeping the faith

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #8

    I don’t buy this playing Thursday then Sunday when champions league teams play Wednesday then Saturday and you don’t hear them complaining. I hope for 3 points today but fear we will struggle again unless we pick our game up.

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  • davybtoon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #9

    Matty – I wouldn’t have Gutierrez in at all but I know pards will play him if fit

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #10

    Champions league teams all have much bigger squads in terms of quality. They can deal with it. We struggle.

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  • check the toastie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #11

    Really looking forward to seeing us loaf the ball forward from deep and being outplayed again. Pardew out. Two years and no progress in playing style.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #12

    Another birthday lad!

    Ed…happy birthday 🙂

    Ibiza…did you ever figure out how to login at fantasy league without having to reset your password everytime?

    …try this link:

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb.html or http://fantasy.premierleague.com

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  • keeping the faith

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #13

    Agree they have bigger squads but we can field 2 teams of 11 plus subs. The real problem is the calibre of players we have and the weakening of the squad in the summer. We do have a few injuries but champions league teams don’t field 1 team for midweek and 1 for weekend. I know we have no Messi or Ronaldos but they both played about 70 games and scored bucket loads of goals last season? We just aren’t playing good enough.

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  • magpie6699

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #14

    People putting Perchinho in your teams – I thought he was still out? If not, totally agree but I thought he was still a couple of weeks away?

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #15

    davyb

    agree 100%, though if i did, he’d be at LB

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  • nezzatoonmad

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #16

    if we want to win today i say 4-3-1-2
    KRULL
    SIMPSON, WILLO, TAYLOR, SANTON
    TIOTE, PERCH, JONAS
    MARV
    CISSE, BA
    or maybe a defensive, attacking formation
    KRULL
    TAYLOR, WILLO, PERCH
    SIMPSON SANTON
    TIOTE, JONAS
    MARV
    CISSE, BA
    what do you guys think???????

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #17

    Check –
    Nice, you look forward to us playing badly…
    Do you hope we will lose?

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #18

    keeping the faith

    don’t feel we weakened the squad at all in the summer

    i think our biggest mistake was letting guthrie go though. fair enough, we all thought with Anita’s arrival pards wanted to play a 433/4231 from the off. But Guthrie was incredible for us last year. I think if you took it at a game-by-game perspective, Cabaye definitely had more man of the match performances than Guthrie but as far as consistency, Guthrie beat him every time in my mind.

    I know a lot of folks didn’t like DG but, if pards doesn’t think Abeid or Inman’s ready (fair enough, they may not be) why get rid of your only other CM who is capable of creating something, much less without replacing him?

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #19

    Krul
    Santon Taylor Willo fergie
    Marveaux tiote Anita Jonas sammy
    Ba

    451/433

    Bring ranger on about 70 minutes in a 442, see how he does.

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  • hazzy

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #20

    pardew says even citehs squad would struggle in the europa league
    Has he noticed they’re undefeated in the league and play on wednesdays and saturdays which is the exact same time between games as us. pathetic excuse

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #21

    Conaldo

    c’mon, man. you are usually level-headed. why ask a question that will only further incite division? no NUFC fan in their right mind wants to lose. Check’s been on here for awhile and he says a lot of things that are loaded, but it’s just frustration boiling over. Can you blame him either? Look at the man supposedly running the team….he’s talked to no end about the EL being such a burden, the injuries, suspensions, and all of it is simply building up towards a worst-case scenario where we lose today so his post-match comments are shored up with earlier excuses.

    i’d say, on both sides, let’s see what he does today. If we do lose and if it’s more of the same both form-wise and the excuses bandied about afterwards, he’ll deserve all the criticism he gets. If we lose and there was real effort on display, real team-play, i won’t criticize personally, but you’ve got to at least recognize where this frustration is coming from

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #22

    Hazzy – he said they would struggle with 11 senior injuries. Which they would.

    And they aren’t struggling?! They haven’t won a game in the champions league and are sitting rock bottom of be group.

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  • YorkshiresFinestGeordie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #23

    Wow, it’s unbelievable how much some people are up marveauxs ars* because he scored one goal. Would much rather try sa Ameobi on right than him, he’s never played good and will always only be a cup player for us. Btw, happy birthday ed 🙂

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #24

    Matty – I recognise where the frustration is coming from. I am also frustrated. I am as frustrated as anyone, but also recognise the burden that injuries, Europa, poor form etc are having on the team.

    Check Isn’t the first person I’ve noticed who’s starting to post things like that. You hear them pop up around Newcastle whenever we go through a rough patch, always saying things like that. It just gets really boring really quickly.

    As loads of people have said, we are going through a seriously unlucky patch, and we need to just buckle down and see it through. Comments like that, and people booing the team off the pitch and all the stuff like that are not helping anyone really.

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  • nezzatoonmad

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #25

    CONALDO
    are you mad with the stupid tactics you’ve used have you been watching the games? those tactics never work and never will. The set play what PARDEW uses is long ball to ba or cisse up front on there own and it hasn’t worked at all they can’t hold the ball up.

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  • DarloGeordie

    Nov 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #26

    A nice comfortable 3-0 win today is my prediction… Cisse will come good

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  • keeping the faith

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #27

    We knew in the summer we needed reinforcements which we did not get. If u compare our squad to other squads, they have improved and we haven’t so our squad is weaker. And 11 first team players missing? The majority of our first choice 11 are available. These excuses don’t not explain why since our first game we’ve played poor and got worse.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #28

    Conaldo

    whereas you think it is an accumulation of the EL, injuries, etc, people like me see them as they are, yes, a burden, but it doesn’t explain why we’ve played awfully for nearly two years now (fair enough, first five months he didn’t have his own team so not his fault)

    i’m content now with taking this game-by-game though. He has my attention. now it’s up to him and his squad to turn it around

    and Yorkshire

    I don’t think Marveaux is the be all end all, personally, but what would you rather do? play 442 with two holding CMs again? No thanks, give the boy a chance to do SOMETHING for this club. Adversely i could say why are so many ppl stuck up sammeobi’s a**? in my mind he hasn’t done a damn thing to warrant inclusion in the starting 11. I hope it’s just a case of injuries persuading AP, but the kid needs to go on loan to L1 or the championship to hone his skills before he turns into a younger, lankier, more erratic version of his oldest brother.

    either way, we’re stretched and I’d take both of them today to prove their worth

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  • nezzatoonmad

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #29

    DARLOGEORDIE
    spot on mate I’ve had this gut feeling that cisse will be amazing today and hopefully gets a hat-trick that would be a major boost to our moral and hopefully start kicking off the season on the high

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  • davybtoon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #30

    When will toon fans learn that if things aren’t going well the answer is not to sack the manager, constantly sacking the manager is why we never hav achieved anything as a club

    First mistake you lot are making is assuming bcoz we hav a 50.000 seater stadium that we should b up there battling for all trophies this isn’t the case were miles behind top clubs like Chelsea n man utd

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  • keeping the faith

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #31

    I’m not saying Pardew out yet and I am willing to be more patient but fans have watched 15 home games this season, paid lots of money to do so to turn up and watch complete and utter dross?? They have a right to boo if they’re not happy. But I also think one comfortable win could change our season. Hope it’s today. 3-1 HWTL.

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  • shearer 9

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #32

    At the game today !!!! Gonna be a hard game

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  • bro56

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #33

    whats with all the rumors. more young players to add to the ‘potential pool’ we already have. how about signing someone that can get us points not pounds in the future.

    2-0 to S’ton

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  • bro56

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #34

    happy b’day Ed. hope the toon get a result for you..

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #35

    davyb

    i think everyone agrees on stability. if youwere to ask me if i want AP gone, I’d say yes. I’m tired of his managerial style as well as most other facets he brings to the table

    on the other side, if you were to ask me if i think it would be best, i’d give a resounding f*** no. more turmoil, more pandaemonium, more player and fan unrest and the biggest thing: MA knows no bottom rung. I agree with his vision financially, but we all know that vision requires quite the the subservient manager. I’d think long and hard about the potentiality of someone like Steve Keane being brought in.

    that said, if this form continues all year, do it in the summer, cause i wouldn’t wanna watch this tripe for another year in the name of ‘stability’

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  • davybtoon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #36

    Matty – for me there is no way we as toon fans can judge how good players like marveux n amalfitano n abeid are at prem level bcoz we simply ain’t seen enough of them to have a proper opinion

    Take marveux we’ve seen have about 60mins in the prem all season, a bad 45mins at Everton n then we don’t see the lad again till the last 15mins v Swansea were for me he looked brilliant, the question is why haven’t we seen him he’s been fit all season, n he weren’t the only player to b bad in that 45 mins at Everton

    Amalfitano shows glimpse of pure class the few times I’ve seen him his pace his touchn he looks creative yet we ain’t seen him once its a joke

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #37

    What time is the game today?

    …1600 Wizard time? (I am feeling a bit under the weather today :()

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  • nezzatoonmad

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #38

    mattyNUFC
    i agree mate sammy hasn’t been impressive enough to start the first 11 and a loan would do him good, we have no good wingers except form HBA and i still think hes better use as a attacking midfielder and fergie seems hes improving bit by bit and could come a top class winger for use, obertan well what the hell were we thinking he hasn’t changed at all hes got great pace to run players but cannot seem to cross or cut inside to cause any threat

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  • davybtoon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #39

    Matty – agree to a certain extent on pardew but imo we don’t play long ball football anywhere near as much as the fans make out, we get it down n play a lot more than we have other the last 4/5 year, the problem is we lack the flair players to unlock defences, actually we don’t we have them in marveux n amalfitano but he never bloody plays them amalfitano benny n marv behind ba would b amazing

    I think ppl forget that fat Sam set us backs years with his style of play n were still suffering from it now

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  • davybtoon

    Nov 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #40

    When obertan starts we rarely lose fact

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