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Newcastle Defender Pursued By Three Italian Clubs

11:07 am, Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 131 Comments

News in the Sun today that 25 year-old Danny Simpson may be looking to try his luck in Serie A, with a number of Italian clubs said to be interested in the Newcastle right back.

Danny Simpson – three Italian clubs interested

And we all know that Danny’s contract runs out at Newcastle in the summer, and that he could even leave in January, when Newcastle will get a small fee for him, rather than have him leave for nothing in the summer.

But with Newcastle’s current precarious league position, the Tyneside club may just wait until the summer, and let the former Manchester United defender become a free agent.

The news is that Simpson is being chased by three Italian clubs – Roma, Parma and Palermo – and they are said to be offering the 25 year-old Newcastle defender a four-year deal at £50K/week.

It’s hard to believe they would be offering Danny such a high wage, but there again there is no transfer fee involved if he leaves in the summer, which is why free agents these days can get themselves some very good deals at the end of their contracts.

Danny has said time and time again that he would like to stay at Newcastle, who have offered him £30K/week and a five year deal, but if this news is true then Danny could well be off to Italy in the summer.

For the record,  Danny has played 124 times for Newcastle with two goals, since he joined initially on loan in the summer of 2009 from the Red Devils,  and that was just after the Magpies had been relegated, and he then signed on full-time in the following January for around £500K.

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131 responses so far ↓

  • 1 check the toastie // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    The only Italian Simpleson will be playing for is Zola at Watford, Championship here he comes.

    Roma what a laugh……………

  • 2 check the toastie // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    My mistake maybe Di Canio at Swindon, they might offer him 50k a week. :)

  • 3 ginkoh // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Joke ?

  • 4 rainrix // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Hmm Wizard i believe this must be linked to the steven taylor conspiracy, just need to connect the dots. :)

  • 5 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    It would be the most apt place for him, given the shape of the country, many have wanted to give him the boot for a long time!

  • 6 catchy in norway // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    good luck to the lad,,

  • 7 catchy in norway // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    why should we care where he goes?

    if he isnt good enough, he could play on the moon for all i care

  • 8 check the toastie // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Catchy, you are setting a great example, you know what i am going to join you,

    Simpson i wish you all the best wherever your career takes you, good luck, and all the best on the goalline clearances.

  • 9 Ian Toon // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Catchy- Don’t you post under Dead Man Walking anymore ?

  • 10 Ian Toon // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Ruddy- Don’t phone us!

  • 11 Big Pappa Cissé // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Good riddance. Cares more about chasing birds than NUFC. Ive never seen a defender so scared to tackle that he backs of attackers so much, not to mention he is about as comfortable on the ball as an elephant.

  • 12 check the toastie // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Big Pap – Bit harsh on Elephants that, some of those Thai ones have some decent ability, would be pretty good at Simmo’s goalline clearance specialtity as well.

  • 13 Made a ma beed // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Arrivederci bellend.

  • 14 Shane // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Is it April 1st already? He’ll be lucky to end up at QPR.

  • 15 Jamiemac // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Give it a rest d*ckheads

  • 16 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    It’s funny how this blog is lining up. Most people, your catchy’s, Stuarts, Check etc thankfully can see the bigger picture.

    Then you have the inbetweener wannabes who shine brightly for a little while but fade away to play on their Xboxes.

    But then worst of all you have some really smug, pompous, patronising, self aggrandising no – marks who randomly hurl insults around if some people don’t fall in line with their condescending ”know it all” routine.

    All of which brings me on to this superb article
    http://www.toonbano.com/2012/11/just-look-at-facts-and-stats-of-this.html?showComment=1354019521278#c8494803462040055861

    Some other managers aren’t all high maintenance and would probably happily swap what they are working with to come to toon and work with Cabaye, Benny, Colo, Santon, Tiote, Krul, Ba, Cisse, Anita etc. Only Willo and Simmo are not fit for purpose.

    I’d love to see a Martinez or similar come and do what they can with our players or closer to home , the one and only Beardo.

  • 17 AMEOBI // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    Why don’t you rate Simpson? He’s a good defender..

  • 18 Nufc-83 // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Ha imagine this clown in Serie A. Dont think italians enjoy watching the ball being punted long to the oppsotion goalkeeper all game.

  • 19 Munster Mag // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    He should get a canny blow job off those Italian birds seeing as he was scoffing at Tulisa’s efforts on the web according to The Sun.

  • 20 Munster Mag // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    Out of interest, does anyone know how Pardew was picked for the job? I believe we have to stick with him for now ( unless he has lost the dressing room ) but I dont think any interviews with other managers were undertaken etc?

  • 21 Nufc-83 // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Along with simmo and willo i am reallly sad to say it as he used to be one of my fav players at the club but Guti is no longer good enough as a winger and although could prob do a half decent job as CDM type of player a half decent job is not good enough.

  • 22 Munster Mag // Nov 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Rotunda, I am supporting pardew for now for various reasons, but Toonbano writes some good stuff ( he has an Irish tricolour beside his blog listing so he may be a fellw Irish Mag ) , but his stuff was slated on here by Ian Toon or someone ( who in fairness is a good and thoughtful poster ) but the guy comes up with relevant stuff, and has been consistent on Pards ( anti ) for ages.

  • 23 Ketsbaia9 // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    He’s not good enough to play in Italy. The Italian league is much stronger than the Premier League. Simpson isn’t good enough to be playing professional football.

  • 24 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Rotonda…Is it not a bit arrogant to say that you and those who share your opinion are seeing the bigger picture? You’re seeing A bigger picture, but it isn’t conclusive. I like to think I see the big picture, but am happy to accept I may be wrong at some point, whilst I believe in my opinions it would be wrong to say I was definitely right, which is what you appear to be doing, correct me if i’m wrong.

    As for Simmo, I don’t love or hate him. Ideally, I wouldn’t mind him as a back-up, but that isn’t going to happen, so I couldn’t really care less where he goes. I’ll support him whilst he’s here and expect an upgrade when he goes or ideally before….but thats probably expecting a little too much.

  • 25 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    i’ve personally never understood the Simmo bashing

    oh wait, yes I have. No matter how much anyone wants to say differently, he’s one of the worst full backs we’ve ever had.

    Next thing you know Barca will be in for Williamson.

  • 26 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    Ketsbaia

    that’s a bit of embellishment

    simmo would fit in well in the championship. just not in the prem

  • 27 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    put this in context

    jack wilshere is about to recieve 50k from arsenal in his new contract

    that’s what simmo wants. i’d have him here as a back-up on 10-15k a week but with the rumours he’s already on 20 and wants closer to 40-50, that’s just ludicrous

  • 28 GeordieDan // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    A very decent article on Sky Sports about us today for a change. Sums things up to be honest: :(

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/8286209?

  • 29 Ketsbaia9 // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Aaron Hughes wasn’t brilliant but would rather have him in our side. At least he was good at coming up for headers etc. We’ve never really had a fantastic right-back. Watson and Barton were better than Simpson but average players. Both were good at getting forward and putting crosses in.

  • 30 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Matty….Absolutely. He definitely does not deserve to be a big earner at the club, especially as it is known we’re looking to upgrade him (here’s hoping), but on a reasonable wage, i’d be happy with him as a back up. More chance of us signing Falcao mind :)

  • 31 Ketsbaia9 // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    People keep talking about Carroll returning. I think we should make a double swoop for Sulejmani and Remi. We could get them both for £15m and both can play on the wing if we need them to. We were linked with Sulejmani 2 years ago.

  • 32 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Dan….Decent article. It’s like a recap of discussions on here, but without the mass hysteria.

  • 33 hotdog // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Cabaye now out until feb he needs a second op on groin :-/

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    It’s simple for Ashley.

    Get the players in January.

    If we still underperform replace the manger in the summer.

  • 35 Ginger // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    @Rotonda

    I said we should go for Beardsley too!

  • 36 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    hotdog….Is that official (The Feb part)? I heard he needed two ops, but that they weren’t sure on the return date?

    If he is, do we all still favour a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 variation? Cabaye was / is an important part of that, who would take that role?

    I suppose you go for a 3 man midfield of Anita – Tiote – Guti?

    This is going to be a fun Christmas period, isn’t it?

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    In sure everyone here remember Chelsea away last season.

    But do you all remember the corner? It was played along the floor into the box where Ba ran round the back of a defender and shot, hitting the bar, almost scoring for us???

    That is the only time I think we have changed from our typical set play of go long to willo and it was the closest we have come to scoring.

    Why haven’t we tried more like that?

  • 38 ToonBano // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Please let this story be true….!

  • 39 Jamiemac // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Rotonda

    That’s about the most hypocritical comment I have ever read.

  • 40 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    dan

    really good read. agree with Ibiza in that it is a sort of re-cap but at least the journos are watching our matches and are paying attention (some). so sick of reading post-match reviews where they’re saying ‘it was a far cry from the champagne football of last season’. at least he’s telling it like it is

  • 41 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    TS….Sounds about right. What would you consider under performing though?

    I have to say, for whatever the reason, my expectations for this season have been reduced somewhat. Other than getting out of the Europa League groups and finishing top 10 I’m not holding out on too much.

  • 42 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    kets

    let’s not bring up the carroll thing again! we all know he is a quintessential Pardewian style player

    but, to go against what i just said, carroll would make an excellent CB i think. He did an excellent job there second half versus us.

  • 43 hotdog // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Ibiza – breaking news on sky. Ap doing news conference now mate

    I posted a few days ago that formations go out the window for me. You just need good players playing well. It might explain why cabaye was off form if he was carrying a knock but what about the others!

  • 44 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Matty….I’ve been thinking a lot lately about last years performances, as they’ve been getting slated as well more and more recently. I have even re-watched some games.

    Obviously take away the terrible games of last year, there were a few (3?), which most clubs will have throughout a season. Basically, they happen, not really worth dwelling on at this point.

    The rest of it was good to watch. It may not be constant quick passing and flowing football. But there was a mix of all sorts of styles, passing, long balls, amazing runs, the lot. It was entertaining. There was also tremendous belief and spirit, that in itself was a joy to watch.

    I’m not saying we’ve gone from playing like Barcelona to the current state of play, but I think some aren’t giving enough credit to the performances of last year and I do mean performances, not results.

  • 45 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    jamiemac

    I know, I love the inbetweeners!!

  • 46 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    Ibiza

    Well originally I wanted to get out the europa group and finish top 8.

    Having seen other’s starts to the year and the improvement of a lot of teams like swansea, everton, west brom, liverpool (coming good now).

    I think a target for me is top 10.

    If we dont invest in a couple players in Jan that we need (2 defendes and a forward/winger with pace) then I would settle for above 14th as long as signs of improvement were shown by management and players.

    anything lower is unnaceptable with the team/squad we have.

  • 47 chris // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:44 PM

    pardew said he was going to work on our set plays corners etc but still the same old shite he is clueless if he could change things he would of done it by now he has lost it and the dressing room and his negative talk

  • 48 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:44 PM

    Hotdog….Fantastic! Keeps getting better and better. Well, it should have been expected, last year was far too easy and stress free :)

    I’m with you to some extent on formations. If your players aren’t playing well, it matters little what formation they’re in. I’m not sure if it was just a slow start, based on Pardew and players being a little bit cocky and thinking they had arrived and that has just escalated in to this no confidence mess we’re seeing. Some have said the team has lost faith in Pardew. It may be the case, but i’m far from convinced at the minute.

  • 49 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    TS….Seems we’re in agreement on this one then.

    Rotonda….Is that sarcasm? Well I never!

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    Ibiza

    The run of 6 games we had when we zoomed up the table playing 433 were great and beautiful to watch and
    get you out of your chair football
    like the WBA away game and the Stoke game at home, but no one has come up with a good enough reason why that has all been kicked in to the long grass to be replaced by the turgid weekly dross we are seeing now.

    And you just know it will be a slow middle 4 and ba and cisse or shola up top again. v Stoke.
    It’s almost like pardew is a drowning man incapable of turning back the tide.

    if it was ugly football and we were doing well you could stomach it but there’s nothing worse than a
    guy who has seen the light but then turns it off.

    laurent blanc now that would be something.

  • 51 hotdog // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Watched the games again are you mad haha. Yes he has my backing after what he did last year. His excuses don’t wash with me though and if we don’t see at least a couple of defenders in jan ill be disappointed.

  • 52 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Ibiza

    sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit but at least it is a form of wit and you got it, even if it’s lost on others!

  • 53 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    ibiza

    what would convince you?

  • 54 tequilamag // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    Rotanda. So apparently what we need is a manager capable of turning back the tide. Well Canute tried it and failed, not sure Laurent Blanc could pull that trick off but you never know.

  • 55 rainrix // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Sage RE set plays… I agree about the low ball. I talked about the low ball across the box some time ago, i remember the chelsea chance that ba had well. We’ve tried it about once this season against the scum, colo hit it and ba tried a scissor kick near the goal that went over, its still the closest we’ve come to scoring from set plays this season and we should really try it more.

    Although at the same time you do need someone to not attract attention and go unmarked at the edge of the box. Plus i’d say you have about 1 go at it a game, after the 1st time they’d surely wise up to the tactic.

  • 56 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Rotonda…..Those six games were certainly the peak of entertaining football and I too am at a loss as to why we reverted back to 4-4-2.

    As for the upcoming Stoke game, we shall see, I certainly think I know what to expect but as always, i’m hopeful of a surprise.

    Even in 4-4-2 last season, I wouldn’t describe it as ugly football personally. Not beautiful, but decent. It definitely is easy to deal with things when you’re winning though, couldn’t agree more.

    Laurent Blanc? At Newcastle? Where has that one come from?

    Hotdog…Not all of them :) Actually it was great to see some of it again (trust me, I wont be re-watching this seasons games in a hurry). As for new defenders in January, I will be disappointed, but not in Pardew, all he can do is say who he wants and keep asking. The excuses etc and a bit tiresome, I do however think that people are overreacting to them somewhat. Yes, some of them have been a bit silly to say the least, but still, since when do managers say the right things in press conferences?

  • 57 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:58 PM

    Gotta love it when someone claims to have seen the “bigger picture” almost relishing in the team’s poor form so they can have a good old condescending “I told you so” at anyone who dared to be positive about the club and the future of NUFC.

    Players and managers come and go, the club and fans always remain (although at times this is an unfortunate fact…)

    Alan Pardew is going nowhere, whether you want him to or not. Not even if we finished 17th and crashed out at the next stage of the FA Cup and Europa League so get used to it.

    The players are as culpable (if not more so) than the manager and yet they have got off scot free. There comes a point where you have to stop looking at football as an intricate system of formations and start looking at it as 11 players vs 11 players, and as of late our 11 players aren’t giving us enough, they aren’t working hard enough, they are making silly mistakes and blaming the manager, calling for his head and speculating about potential replacements takes away from the BIGGER picture that all of you calling for Pardew’s head are not even considering blaming the players!

    This blog had descended into Pardew haters patting each other on the back and reveling in the darkest slump in form since our relegation season. Well done, give yourselves another pat on the back, maybe even hope for relegation because that will show the rest of us won’t it? Maybe we’ll even see your bigger picture then? You know what you can do? Shove your bigger picture up your @rse and start showing some bloody loyalty to the manager.

  • 58 cyprus // Nov 27, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Simpson is the best right back we have and people are glad to be rid of him in order to put on… another raw kid! The problem is Saylor (aka K. Dyer). He comes in, plays a couple of games, disrupts the line up, sits out ten games… Williamson, has contributed a lot more to the 5th place everyone here boasts about, actually. Our defense can be shaky, but frankly, I’ve seen worse NUFC defenses and there are worse ones in the league too. Where’s our problem then? The three lines don’t work together, don’t blend. We have a defense, a midfield and forwards, each group consisting of good players, but we don’t have a team. How many options to pass does any player have at any given moment? One, max. How much running do players do when they don’t have the ball? Minimal! Hmm

  • 59 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Ginger

    i don’t think it’s that crazy an idea. he loves the club, knows it inside out, doesn’t have a huge ego like shearer for example. believes in good football. Could be just the man.

  • 60 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Ibiza

    I have about 13 matches from last year on my computer. I’ve re-watched all of them at least once. Perhaps it’s just me but especially in the first half of last year I can’t think of any stand-out performances bar Stoke away.

    To me it’s more of the same, less ideas, and a manager whose very real deficiencies are now shining through.

    I’m a bit like Jail though. He says he doesn’t have enough energy to hate Pardew. I don’t have enough energy to hate MA. It is what it is and I really believe that with the squad we have, the best one we’ve had in probably a decade, that we should be at the very least playing good football. I’m so sick of hearing about injuries because who honestly believed Vuckic was going to be a first-teamer this season? I like him, but not me, and not many. Same for Gosling, except i’ve yet to see any worth in him to our club. Yes, Cabaye is out, but he hadn’t been. Tiote and Colo were suspended, we should’ve had enough to deal with it.

    I don’t want to go too far into it because it’s all too roundabout for me. I want to see change and I’m still waiting. The biggest thing that irks me though, and I’ve said it on here before, is that ALL fans thought Pards would shake it up against the saints. he did nothing. all very very sad because in my mind at least, right or wrong, this team should be at the very least never lingering below 10th. We have an incredible group of players with skill sets that soar far above their manager’s.

  • 61 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Rotonda….For me, depending on how sarcasm is used is whether it is a low form of wit. But being sarcastic, as I am, I would think that.

    What would convince me that Pardew has lost the players? I don’t know, someone saying something negative about the guy might be a start. Maybe they’ve lost faith in the owner and not Pardew for not adding new players? Everyone is just too quick to point at Pardew imo. It may be the case, but it’s guesswork, isn’t it?

  • 62 tequilamag // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Well said Ruddy, turns my stomach to see so many people positively enjoying this rough patch. What kind of supporter gets joy out of the team doing badly just do they can feel vindicated by their own prejudices.

  • 63 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:06 PM

    Ruddy

    That’s kind of contradicting yourself. You say it’s not formations but then imply he’s not getting the best out of the players. Which is worse? One’s bad enough, both seems untenable.

  • 64 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    tequila

    where the hell do you see the word enjoyment anywhere!!! We’re sick to death of it, but we’re just not sheep who think pardew walks on water.

  • 65 cyprus // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Ibiza, you really had the patience to watch last year’s games? Frankly, there were large periods when we were being outplayed, we’d cleverly lull the opposition into thinking we were crap and then, with moments of brilliance (which are of course, part of the game!) we’d win games! Best to watch the highlights and goals, yes, they are probably our best – ever, including the entertainers.

  • 66 beefman13 // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    ok danny move on, we need to move on as well AP has to see that it is to stale with simmo and williamson, get a bit nearer tulisa and we will all be happy, get off thew honey pot and concentrate of your football .

  • 67 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    How is it a contradiction? How have I implied that he is not getting the best out of the players? Is a players performance completely down to the manager!? No of course not!

    The players are not getting the best from themselves. He sets his team out but they are the ones who have to play. You cannot credit a player with a fantastic performance but blame the manager when he has a bad one.

    This is purely a manipulation method employed by people who hate Pardew in order to blame him for everything.

    “Sure we played well but that’s more down to the players than it is to our manager”

    “The manager’s formation was all wrong and that is why we lost today, how could you expect players to play well in that formation?”

    You want to talk about contradictions? That’s one of the biggest ones.

  • 68 Graeme // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Just been on SSN that Cabaye has now had his second operation and will be out until February!!!

  • 69 beefman13 // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    cyprus i would play a raw tavernier any day over simpson, at least the lad can go past a player, simmo hasnt a clue on the ball, a bit harsh maybe but i have had my fill of simpson and williamson, or steptoe and son as i call the, its not just their fault of course our current predicament but we have to move on from them, the club needs to see it.

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    ruddy

    Nobody wants the club to do badly…..i am sure of that.

    The people who have criticised pardew and said he career follows a clear pattern of a good season followed by dross have so far been shown to be correct.

    However, i’m sure we all back the team during the game even if we do criticise them here.

    The thing is Pardew has an 8 year deal, not sure how watertight it is as nothing is revealed but knowing ashley I am sure he has some wiggle room if things aren’t going well.

    I think we wont go down so maybe we will get to see the next chapter in pardews management. We will see what come afters 1 good year and 1 bad year, will it be another bad year or will he adapt and have a good year and grow into the job more? we just dont know.

    What I will say of Pardew though, from the start of the year is that he has been very dull and negative in our set up. I dont understand after the success we had playing good football towards the end of last year.

    I will say on demba ba playing as a central 2 though that if he annoys ba and he leaves in jan with his release clause I dont think ashley would rush to replace, we saw that with carroll, he waited, maybe pardew just thinks that if he plays ba left or on the bench then he will lose him and be left with only 2 strikers.

    Not a reason to sacrifice our form/results but pardew probably believes he can 442 working with them and it does explain the decision at least.

  • 71 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    beefman

    hear, hear re simmo and tavs

  • 72 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    ibiza

    I think a lot of decent managers would kill for our squad, injuries or otherwise or is suddenly carr not a super scout any more who unearthed all these diamonds.

    Ok we can’t compete maybe with the likes of the top 4
    but to lose the last 3 in the manner we have whilst fielding 9 purples is crazy.

    if pardew held his hands up and said you know what I’m sorry, I take on board the fans concerns and the
    reason we are playing this way is because of A, B or C, then I’d say good on you geezer. A bit of transparency would go a long way.

  • 73 tequilamag // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    Rotanda enjoyment of this situation is exactly the impression you and Catchy and others give of the form at the moment. Everyday it`s a constant barrage of criticism. Have you ever heard of perspective. Injuries, Pardew not getting the support from MA in the Summer with new recruits and . I am not saying Pardew is Morinho but even the special one would struggle with Newcastle at the moment. Managers need support from the money mem as well as the fans. You never look any further than Pardew is hopeless or Simpson is not good enough for Pl or Willo is useless or Jonas has lost it. Its all so easy to blame the manager. Get rid of the manager who got us 5th last year problem solved.

  • 74 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8289313/Yohan-Cabaye-ruled-out-until-February-as-he-needs-further-surgery-on-groin

  • 75 fray bentos // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    Some posters on here don’t realise backing off a winger is quite often the correct procedure especially against talented players, im sure if Simpson went rushing in everytime he would be far less effective and give the oppostition far more chances. I reckon you guys were probably those kids at school that just sat in the oppositions box, no idea basically

  • 76 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    Sage

    I hope that Ba isn’t dominating Pardew’s thinking in this way, because if he is then it would be better to just get rid of him, preferably in the summer. I am not one for advocating selling our best players but surely if Ba was a team player he would happily play out on the left if it meant Cisse gets firing and the team starts winning again, if he isn’t a team player then get rid. We don’t know conclusively what the story is on this score so it’s just speculation at this stage.

    You could be right though, although I hope not. 1 player dictating team selection wouldn’t be a good recipe for success.

  • 77 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    Matty….Those first 11 games weren’t really pretty, but it was a new team and they fought hard. That in itself is a joy to watch, for me at least. They showed tremendous character, something that has been absent so far this season. Why? I have no real answers, only ideas, much like the rest of you.

    Have to say, if you have to hate one of the leading figures, I think you may have the wrong one, but time will tell.

    It’s easy to say, well we’ve only missed about 3 players, so we should be able to cope. Well, those players were Colo and Tiote mainly who are huge for us. Tim was out for a bit too, another huge loss and now Cabaye. We don’t have the right players to step in (if we want to maintain where we were), so yes, it does have a big impact imo. This aspect is down to Ashley, not Pardew.

    You are right, no point going round in circles. We have a new challenge ahead and it’s going to be tough. I feel we all need to perhaps lower this years expectations, get behind manager and players and try to push on. January needs to go well for us I feel, or this “plan” may fall apart. If there was a point or something to be achieved with the negativity, I’d consider it, but I just don’t see how it helps at the minute. We’ve acknowledged the problems, now let’s get back behind them and try move on. Maybe i’m missing the bigger picture though…wouldn’t be the first time in my life.

  • 78 lesh // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Yes Geordie D @28, that Sky article’s good though I do agree with Ibiza that whoever’s written it has done no more than summarize the arrticles and some of the less hysterical comments posted on this site.

    Some may construe it as lazy journalism and othere just the writer being enterprising.

  • 79 Graeme // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Ibiza – what’s this sarcasm stuff then?? Is he a new prospective signing, along with the other 376 we will be linked to before January?

  • 80 cyprus // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Ruddy, I don’t want to contradict u because your posts make sense, but, turn the ‘player’ and ‘manager’ words around,

    “You cannot credit a player with a fantastic performance but blame the manager when he has a bad one.”

    and you’ll see what I mean. AP got manager of the year and the credit, now he must take the ‘credit’ once more…
    Anyway, good leaders spread the credit when things are going well, take the blame when things aren’t. To his credit, he did the first part last year, now he must take on the second.

    Beefman, I do see your point but honestly I don’t think the problem is where you place it, on those two players. I wrote where I think the blame is, @57

  • 81 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    Tequila

    Do you not acknowledge though that even with all the constraints put on him, financially and injury/suspension we should still be doing better than we actually are?

    The points total doesn’t scare me, a few wins and we are back in track.

    The problem I have is just a total effortless display for the majority if a lot of the games.

    The way Southampton overran us was shocking. That shouldn’t happen against a team like them with all due respect to Southampton.

    Fray

    There is a time to stand off you are right. For me Simmo is bobby average defending and terrible going forward. His stands of too deep, giving wingers too much room, he needs to find the middle ground.

  • 82 fray bentos // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    Can’t remember exactly for all the games but i remember playing well well against Tottenham in that early stretch of last season, if anything we were equals against a very talented side

  • 83 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Ruddy

    I don’t know either. Just an idea I had as a possible explanation if why we changed.

    It’s not good if Ba did this but as a striker who scores can see why he wants a central role.

    The problem is pardew knows a replacement will only be bought if the value is right. Not because we would desperately need one.

  • 84 lesh // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Good olwl mattyNUFC, the bearer of even more glad tidings. As Private Fraser might put it, ‘We’rrre dooomed, dooooomed a tel ya!!

    And as I and many others would put it:

    Mr Ashely, take note and give friend Llambias a big clip for being so focused on his friggin’n budget than on the football side of the business during the last window! His short-sightedness may have very expensive repercussions!

  • 85 Indian Magpie // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Given the current discussions, an article i wrote. let me know what you think

    http://thespectatorsview.com/2012/11/27/will-this-tactical-adjustment-solve-newcastles-problems/

  • 86 fray bentos // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    @transfer

    I agree, hes not a great player especially going forward but hes definitely premierhip standard in my opinion just not really top half so doesn’t deserve half the crap he gets on here especially as he seems to give it his all

  • 87 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    Cyprus

    I see what you mean but look at it this way. I, and others like me, would have said that any good results were down to both the manager getting things right and the players doing it out on the field. At times Pardew maybe got things wrong and was saved by some excellent performances, as is the case with a lot of teams. But mainly it was a combination of the two.

    Now results are going against us, and the popular opinion is that it is all Pardew’s fault and we should be looking to get rid of him. Well if good results are, as in my view, a combination of the manager and the players getting it right, then surely bad results should be viewed as a combination of the manager and players getting it wrong. Sometimes the manager will get it right tactically and the players don’t execute those tactics.

    From watching the team this year they are lacking drive, passion and desire, for whatever reason. Our midfield players have been unable to take a decent first touch all season, our defenders have made sloppy mistakes and our strikers aren’t making the right runs, or working hard enough. In my view these are issues that are down to the individuals, not the manager but I am willing to concede that Pardew has some part to play in this downturn, but I am unwilling to concede that he shoulders all the blame, as some people here would have you believe.

  • 88 lesh // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    * Whoops sorry Matty, my mis-spelling of owld (olwl) could have been taken as owl and in no way draws any similarity between you and Mr Llambias!

  • 89 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    fray

    yeh thats his level really…bottom half prem league or squad player

  • 90 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    Sorry to start conversations and run, but that is what I must do :)

    Will try pick this up again later. I’ll leave you fine folk to work out the details for now. Play nicely ;)

    Rotonda….One quick thing, I don’t think it’s an issue of decent managers not wanting to work with our squad, but more lack of investment and Llambias. Ashley has hardly been made out to be the best employer on the planet and there lies the problem with who would replace Pardew?

    That’s not even taking in to consideration what a decent manager would think about us fans. Whether you credit Pardew or not for last year, the reality is, we got 5th and Europa league, now 4 months in to the new season, we’re looking like we’ll qualify from our group and are sitting mid-table. A few wins or losses could send us either direction, but a percentage of fans want the manager out? Sounds like a dream job.

    Bye for now.

  • 91 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    Ruddy

    Enough already please. Nobody hates pardew, I think that’s a very strong emotion.
    No one is patting themselves on the back and
    glorying in our team losing matches playing rubbish football either.
    We ‘re just waiting for an anwer as to why things
    have got so bad and none is ever forthcoming.

    If after 25 matches a manager can’t see ba and cisse don’t work in a 442 and that we always get over run in midfield and that cabaye is far more effective in an
    an advanced role in a middle 3, doesn’t it raise issues of his awareness and ability to address the situation?

    I think these are very genuine and valid concerns and I don’t know why you get so defensive about it.

  • 92 tequilamag // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    TS I think the reasons for the poor season need to be thought about a bit more that looking for individual scapegoats. There are lots of factors . injuries to key players not investing in the Summer, players playing below the standard they are capable of and Pardew is not exempt from his share of the blame either. We need to accept we are in a bad patch and get behind the team. Constantly slating Pardew or certain players as scapegoats achieves nothing.

  • 93 cyprus // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Won’t support Simpson’s case again, don’t feel like singing anyone’s praises right htis moment :) but which winger, even top ones, has run him rugged? Please remind me… I’ve seen Colo, whom I do rate, given the runaround, Saylor too, even our most talented defender was out of position a few times in the last game. He seems a good honest defender who tries his best. If Italian or other clubs are interested in him it shows he’s not all that bad. Ok, that’s it, Danny I’ll take that beer now :)

  • 94 ONLINE GUY // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Last season it was deemed we had hungry players with something to prove ..The Players in situ also had a few players breathing down their necks ..ready to nip in if the form dipped ..this season there is no pressure on them to perform as half the squad is knackred with injury..

    Makes a big difference to a millionaire footballer if your place is under threat … And this season it aint .

    Also the treatment of Hatem Ben Arfa last year was a disgrace ..got to defend more ..blah blah blah ,,Pardew ..

    Hatem has worked his tits of this season and had to jump through hoops last season just to get a start.

    Pardew had him on the subs bench so many times ..lost count ..what a disgrace that was ..a talented magical player that creates all match and Pardew leaves him out. .

    iT remind’s me of when Graham Taylor left the one world class player we had in England out of the England team ..ignored him for years ..Turnip head.. The Player ?

    Peter Beardsley. absolute world class Player .

    Pardew can probably see the value of Hatem now , If he had seen that last season we would have had at the least 6 extra points and a place in the champions league.

  • 95 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    If I could sack anyone it would be Llambias and get a chairman in with knowledge of the business of football.

  • 96 Rotonda heights // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    ibiza

    essenially we just want answers why it has got like this and why there seems to be no discernible
    change in policy for every match we play, just same old, same old and hope for the best.

  • 97 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    tequila

    I keep saying here….

    the season is a combination of all factors, good or bad.

    We have a big squad but lack quality in depth, europa may not tire or players as we swap them a lot but it disrupts training and we dont have a full week to prepare for games, .

    We have injuries which doesn’t help. we are missing our only 2 creative players in ben arfa and cabaye now.

    Pardew is banging his head against a wall with cisse and ba as a pair.

    The players are showing none of the fight what helped us last year when we were playing bad which meant we picked up points when being terrible (we have shown it twice i think this year against west brom and everton)

    All of these things aren’t helping us.

    Pardew is having a bad season persoanlly but nobody is helping him out either.

  • 98 Jamiemac // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Has anyone here slating Simpson actually played as a full back?? If he dived in every time he would get skinned regularly. If you actually watched him he stands off and doesn’t let the winger cut in which more often than not makes the winger play backwards.

    I agree with ruddy 100%. This blog is becoming a broken record with people unnecessarily bashing pardew week in week out. He made us finish 5th which was amazing and now everyone on here is expecting the same again!! I hope we finish top 6 just so I can slate all the pessimists on here.

  • 99 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Does that mean that after 25 games, if these issues are not addressed you would advocate replacing the manager? As is the implication.

    We are not the manager, we do not pick the teams, we do not see how the players play together during training, we do not know the conversations that go on with MA, DL and AP about who they are looking to buy or whether they would replace certain players if they were sold. All of these issues impact upon a manager’s team selection.

    Maybe AP does want to try a more attack minded formation but worries about the defensive frailties that would be exposed as a result. He also has to cope with debilitating injuries, and while only a few first team players are injured 2 very important utility players are lost in Taylor and Perch, these 2 could fill any number of holes left in the team and while they are not magnificent players they do a tremendous job while others are our and losing these 2, on top of injuries and suspensions mean dipping into a very young pool of players.

    The point I want to get across is before you slate the manager, try considering these factors before jumping to your conclusions, none of us are in full possession of all the facts and as such none of us can make a comprehensive assessment of what exactly is wrong and who exactly is to blame.

    None of us are in sight of the “bigger” picture, and what is getting me so defensive is your patronising attempt to portray yourself, and your like minded followers, as the “enlightened ones” with regards team performances and the ability of the manager and that the rest of us have been blinded fools.

    While you claim you take no pleasure in this recent turn of form, it sure seems like it. As for the back patting, look over some of the comments made and I don’t think I’d be alone in thinking you were all congratulating yourselves.

  • 100 Indian Magpie // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Hannover played in Europa, then on Sat and now today. Holy cow what the blue blazers

  • 101 check the toastie // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Nobody skins Simpson because he back that far off them, the 2nd goal at the weekend were he was protecting his knackers like a sissy instead of quickly closing the winger down was pure Simpson. Happy to hide and happy to just go through the motions.

    After he moves on it would be nice to get a full back who doesnt turn his back on Krul and run as far up the pitch as he can when our keeper is looking for options to build from the back. Krul has to boot long as all our back 4 have generally ran to the half way line to try and compete for the second ball, utter shite football.

  • 102 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    jamie

    have you watched simpson?

    he lets people cut inside, he lets people beat him on the outside, he never produces a single thing going forward.

    He stands off way too much, I dont want him to dive in but he gives people too much space and backs off to allow the winger to run into the box, then he cant make a tackle incase he gives away a pen.

    He is by no means the cause of all our problems but he is clearly not good enough. As can be seen by the club offering him a contract with a back up/cover player wage and pursuing debuchy all summer.

  • 103 Nufc-83 // Nov 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    I played full back at a half decent amatuer standard for around 10 years and you do back off especially against fast wingers but my god danny simpson backs off so far he is often sitting in the stands with the fans the lad is a joke. Look at spurs last year he got skinned constantly and was at fault for at least 2 maybe 3 goals. People who do not know much about the game stick up for the lad or you have the other mugs who see that he puts in a shift for the team and they are happy with that. The lad is a woeful defender and if HBA came up against him in the future i would be extremely excited by the prospect. Dont even get me started on his attacking abilities as frankly he hasnt got any.

  • 104 ONLINE GUY // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    A team with a 5th place finish in the prem , any team up there would always strengthen the first team ready for the following season . Just 2 top editions and it shakes the squad up ..Keeps them on the toes so to speak , freshens everyone up ..

    Thrifty Lambarse and Ashley poke around for a player, dithering here and there , cant get the player because of stupid low ball offers , hoping to scalp the other club…

    A spate of injuries, relegation looms . We should be worried about a top 5 finish at the right end of the league, not worrying about the northern end and bottom 3 . .. 52.000 supporters filling the ground . full of hope … and an owner with no ambition.

  • 105 mattyNUFC // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    lesh

    what was wrong with my post? thought it was fairly balanced on my own discontents

    oh, right, you are more than happy to deride and downplay anyone who’s thoughts due not align similarly to yours. right.

    would it really be worthwhile to comment on here if everyone shared the same views as yours? i’ll question, you can suck the proverbial teet. capiche?

  • 106 cyprus // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Indian Magpie @84, read your article and it is an interesting one. Perhaps what u suggest is the solution, especially regarding HBA, but don’t we need some width? Or will the backs double as ‘flying backs’? Not sure I agree on Anita as RB, each time he played there he was demolished, easily pushed off the ball, out of position. He seems much more composed elsewhere. Also, cross out Saylor, you know why.

    PS. Your site is pretty good.

  • 107 solano // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    A repost but relevant to the big/small picture debaters. It’s taken me quite a time to trawl through all of Ed’s articles and read the comments since last night…phew! Quite heavy going at times..though I actually read a little admission from Rotonda, almost an apology really, about how the club is ran which made me think the worm is slowly beginning to turn with some.
    What a terrible situation we find ourselves in – some are calling for the manager to be sacked, some the MD to be fired, some asking for money to be spent come January – and all are asking for MA to take action!
    He will stick with his ‘plan’ I’m afraid; there is no chance of him sacking Delboy as he is is right hand man and implements his masters wishes ruthlessly. Patsy’s position, despite his new contract is less safe because 1) the performances this season have been below par to say the least and his explanations for them even less so 2) his role of Patsy has him in an unenviable hinterland between the fans and the board, flip flopping and contradicting himself almost on a daily basis to ingratiate himself with the fans and then his employers.
    So, he may go at some stage this season (Phil Brown is available ) as he has no friends and only grudging respect because of his achievments last year.
    The likelihood of MA deviating from the rigid fiscal policy is unlikely and there is plenty of oral and written evidence and historical precedent to backup my opinion. If we are still in the stew come January, we are more likely to start horsetrading in case of relegation (as in Jan 2009) than to embark on an out of character spending spree to stay up. This scenario will not be helped by the appearance of one or two more of the perennial ‘Judas’ looking to ship out because of disillusionment/unwillingness to fight/opportunity to progress elsewhere (NB they are likely to be our best and most talented players)
    This may well sound as if it is all just Doomsday scenarios – and I admit it’s hardly uplifting! However it could happen -its happened before – and I hope to God it doesn’t this time round.
    What we have to do in the next few games is get some points, pure and simple and see if Pards can lift what we have left of our ill equipped squad. There is no doubt, even with injuries we should be doing a hell of a lot better than what has been served up lately. However, I find it very painful to watch Mike williamson suffer so much – it’s not his fault he is so limited and devoid of any confidence and it borders on the criminally insane how we are stuck with him because of board level tightwaddery. I hope Patsy can turn it around because simply, there will be no one else good enough who is willing to work with the gruesome twosome. Stoke just maybe (maybe!) – with their basic football by numbers style – exactly what we need on Wednesday. It was the scene last year, for me, of Pardews finest moment – tactically, physically and ability wise we murdered them. Let’s hope we can do that again at the Brittania instead of it becoming AP’s Waterloo this time round.
    We have got to turn this around because more defeats in quick succession make the snowball of relegation a lot quicker and bigger at a place like Newcastle. This will be compounded by the stubborness and simple lack of nous by those who run the club to be able to make the right decisions when they have the opportunity.
    Ian Toon referred to a popular and wise phrase in an earlier post ‘if we forget the lessons of the past we are condemned to repeat the same mistakes in the future’.
    This should apply not only to those who make the decisions at NE1 but to the thousands of fans who have witnessed the last few years under this regime. If it all goes pear shaped then the one ultimatley responsible is the owner who dictates policy – and he should not be let off the hook next time round! If you don’t fight then you’ve lost, if you fight, you MAY lose.

    .

  • 108 bettyswallocks // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Its fairly obvious that Pardew is too set in his ways or devoid of any new ideas on how to cope with the poor results of late.

    As many have now realised the success of last season was built on a very intense work ethic and flashes of brilliance from our star players.

    This is very hard to sustain as a long term strategy and as Pardew will not change his philosophy or probably can t, then I can only see things getting worse as players and fans morale drop lower and lower.

    We have good players who are not a unit but a collection of frustrated individuals who can t play to their strengths because of the poor team tactics.

    Pardew needs help from a coach that understands the modern game.

  • 109 Mister Tuff // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Tequila @#61. I quote you as follows:-
    “Well said Ruddy, turns my stomach to see so many people positively enjoying this rough patch. What kind of supporter gets joy out of the team doing badly just do they can feel vindicated by their own prejudices.”
    I was going to ask you about your use of the word enjoying -but was beaten in my response by rotonda.
    Having read your response it is not at all very convincing.
    Your post contains two sentences and can therefore be easily split int two parts:-
    Part 1. Outlandish and invented statement suggesting knowledge of the mental feelings of another about a particular event.
    Part 2. Attempt to justify initial statement by suggesting equally spurious reasoning by suggesting that a supporter gets joy out of the team doing badly -thereby trying to garner support for the contrary (and acceptable) proposition -namely that the supporter is not a true supporter as he wants to see the team doing badly.
    Your explanation to rotonda was pretty hopeless.
    Some of your posts are worth reading but after this offering I’m afraid I have to put you in the “three wise monkeys faction” also known as the “blind faith brigade”.

  • 110 Indian Magpie // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    Thanks Cyprus,

    I put Anita in as that would provide some much needed width

  • 111 Offkey // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Ed, if you have nufctv, can you tell me what Pards says in his press conference…..something about new set pieces.

  • 112 Nufc-83 // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Ha mister tiff that is a top class post tbh.

  • 113 ONLINE GUY // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Solano

    Your post @ 106 ..Damn good read .

  • 114 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    Mister Tuff

    Were you talking to me @108?

  • 115 tequilamag // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    Mister Tuff I call it as I see it. The tone of many people on here is beyond a joke. I find more and more that the blog can be delineated not along pro or anti Pardew or MA lines. There are advocates from every side that can argue a point and back iy up. The real division as I see it is between those who understand perspective and those that are so steadfast in their prejudice they are incapable of looking beyond easy answers.
    Nufc 83 top post? lost any respect for you when you pi**ed all over Jimmy Magpies memorial post

  • 116 Transfer Sage // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    I see a lot of stats to show we are the biggest long ball team this year. And people also complaining about the football last season.

    Does anyone have the stats for long balls last year? Be good to see a comparison and if we were as bad as some claim.

  • 117 Mister Tuff // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    ruddy @#113.
    Negative responding to tequila @#61 -where he makes reference to you.
    Unless you are using one of these new fangled phones where it is difficult to retrieve previous posts -could I suggest respectfully a visit to Spec Savers.

  • 118 fray bentos // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    @transfer sage

    Don’t remember where i saw them but i remember us being around middle for playing long balls last season

  • 119 lucasnufc // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    Offkey:

    He just says “we’re trying new ones where we make the first contact”. Basically that revolutionary concept that we try and score from our set pieces. Sounds like a load of nonsense to me.

  • 120 fray bentos // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    @tequila

    “The real division as I see it is between those who understand perspective and those that are so steadfast in their prejudice they are incapable of looking beyond easy answers”

    Very well put, many on here see this situation as very black & white (excuse the pun), there is no middle ground like their opinions on the players (they are either great or shit and none are average). Many on here don’t seem to see the possibilities of growth or situations which are just outside of someones control.

  • 121 The Prophet Of Doom 01.12.12 // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    it will all prove to be pointless when the rain of fire pours down from the sky

    the end is nigh

    armageddon approaches

    01.12.12

    “%”)”)(%

  • 122 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM

    @Mister Tuff

    Ooooh I say, tetchy. This blog is a minefield at times, it is ridiculous where people’s sense and sensibilities go when their team isn’t doing as well as they want.

    I would be an advocate of the view that instead of slating players, or the manager why don’t we highlight where exactly we think we are going wrong and offer solutions to those problems.

    NB “Sack the manager” cannot be included as a solution :P

  • 123 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:47 PM

    Hey Beetle :D

  • 124 Ian Toon // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    Mister Tuff- A behavioural psychologist for example would know the mental feelings of another about a particular event. I was looking to find the time to post in a similar vein to Ruddy. Your posts are usually spot on but not on this occasion in my opinion.
    Hope your having a good day.

  • 125 Mister Tuff // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    Tequila thanks for replying. I hear what you say about the pro and anti factions on the various topical issues. There are good and idiotic posts for sure -some boring, some repetitive some infuriating etc etc., submitted by many different (well I think they are different) posters. By now I think I can spot posters whose offerings are worth a read -my point was at you assuming knowledge of somenone elses’ mental state. Even in the heat of debate – a step too far?

  • 126 tequilamag // Nov 27, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    Mr Tuff, your quite right about assumptions, but I think you can understand how frustrating it is reading the same prejudicial assumptions every day, quite often topped off with a nod as to the writer of the post knowing all the time and taking what appears to be a large measure of satisfaction in apparently being shown to be correct by events. And by events I mean Newcastle losing.

  • 127 catchy in norway // Nov 27, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    big picture little picture, i dont reall care,

    i love to watch football, my team of choice is newcastle, choice is a bad word for it really, i was born a newcastle supporter

    for me the big picture is sdtanding back, take a breath, and look at what is going on, ask why is it going on and fix it when its breaking not broken, preventive maintinece,,,

    some of us seen a problem last season, but where told to be quiet, and look at the table, we are 3rd,, we are 4th, we finihsed 5th,, are you mad, ppl said, arrr there is no pleasing some fans,, thtas what was said ( some used stronger language :) )
    but looking back all the signs where there but ppl chose to see what they want, and most chose to look at a table for there football, probably a good idea because the football on the pitch was poor
    by the end of dec last year, we had scored 25 goals, 16 from 1 guy 9 from the rest,, thats poor
    but as a team there was not any matches where i watched and thought yes, wow, that was great, what they did great last year was close teams down, no flair until the end of jan, then we had 3 players that looked like they could take on the world HBA CABAYE CISSE,

    there was very little on the left side

    before that, we played with the 2 worst wingers in the league, obertan and jonas,, jonas i forgave beacuse he was covering a lot for raylor, but obertan, got into some great positions, but could not cross, at 22, he should be able to do that, fans where screaming for HBA, but pardew made every excuse under the sun not to play him,, until obertan got injured

    the defence where iether great 15 clean sheets, or shit, 3/4/5s on a few occaisions

    but all the time i was watching them last year, i never felt like we ever wanted to beat a team, win a game yes, 1-0 or 2-1,, but not go all out for a win

    we finished 5th because we where given 2 places, chelsea and liverpool had shocking seasons for reasons well ducumented,
    last season befor cisse, cabaye played DMC along with tiote, and even after cisse came, he floated beteeen the 2

    i guess im trying to say, nothing much has changed from last year, same players same manager less luck

    the stats can be used in many ways, but if you take the stats as a whole
    they do marry up with the style of football we play and do give us reasons as to why it is not working

    reasons i think he has lost the players
    1, the results
    2, the type of players we have and how he uses them
    filling a team full of players from the championship and playing long ball is one thing, but we have top internationals from top countries around the world, how does it make them look good by playing long ball,
    3, the excuses he uses, he is on a nother planet sometimes,, last week he blamed the loss on young players doing older players jobs, but in the same interview said they had done better than the week before,, i scratch my head sometimes

    pardew is used to working with average players, he dont know how to get the best out of our team, 2 years of watching them tells you that,,

    there are managers out there that could do wonders with this current squad we have,,

    what you have to ask yourself is, should we stick with pardew because it is not good to be seen sacking another manager, or let this guy take us down, to safe face,,
    where does it say stability means keeping someone, it could also mean getting rid ov someone

    i just want to watch football, thats all,, i love my team and i stand by my team, but i will not stand by and watch some stuborn guy try and kill it, just so some of you can say,, naaaaa, we will see in jan ,, you have had 2 full years to watch this unfold,, why do u need to jan????

  • 128 cockneymagpie90 // Nov 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    @Catchy in norway

    Exactly!!

    Write ashley a letter!!!

    Everyone calling for ashleys head are off their head! Yes he has made mistakes in past, but he has done wonders for this club over the past few years. The only thing i dont agree with is that 8 year contract for pardew.

    We have some world class players in KRUL, COLO, SANTON, TIOTE, ANITA, BENARFA, CISSE, BA. Any managers would dream of having just a couple of these players in their team! Even with the injuries, we have more than half of these players so that should not be an excuse!!!

    Its simple, Alan Pardew plays terrible football.

    If this carries on you can say goodbye to a handful of our stars. Even if we do win a couple games, at the end of the day, it would of been an individual talent getting on the end of that lucky long ball that wins us them games or benny boy worming his way round everyone because there is noone to link up with.

    I dont like to say this but im almost hoping we lose these couple next games just so he f***s off!

  • 129 Rake // Nov 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    I think if we try to match Stoke we will get beat again, hoping for a 4-5-1 formation tomorrow

  • 130 lesh // Nov 27, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    Whoah back Matty, the bad news I was referring to was contained in 74 and your link about Cabaye being out ’til February. No reflections on any other of your posts.

  • 131 jimmysmith // Nov 27, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    He needs at least 50k a week to pay for his full time personal beauty therapist. I’ve never seen a prettier more turned out footballer.




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