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Newcastle Unlucky – But Still Lose 2-1 To Stoke

10:14 pm, Wednesday, November 28th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 79 Comments

After Papiss Cisse has put Newcastle ahead a couple of minutes into the second half, it looked like Newcastle were going to break their losing streak at the Britannia Stadium,  but goals in the 81st and 85th minute from high balls into the Newcastle box, gave Stoke the win, and the nightmare at Newcastle continues, with just one point from the last five league games.

Papiss Cisse scoring Newcastle’s goal early in the second half

The first half of this game was fairly,  even although Stoke looked the more dangerous side, and Newcastle made the mistake early in the game of fouling Stoke players just outside the box, and both Santon and Perch were booked early on.

That’s James’ Perch’s 5th booking and means he will miss the home game against Wigan Athletic on Money night – just in case things were not bad enough.

When half time came Newcastle had done well to hold their own, even though Stoke had hit the bar when the ball rebounded off Mike Williamson onto the post.

But it was obvious that Newcastle were losing the central midfield battle,  although Tiote and Perch were doing their best to cope.

The after a couple of minutes into the second half, a Demba Ba shot was not held by goalkeeper Begovic, and Papiss Cisse was in there faster than any Stoke players, and he put the ball home, and that was only the second goal Stoke have conceded this season at the Britannia Stadium.

Stoke increased the pressure after the goal,  but the Newcastle defense seemed fairly comfortable with Coloccini outstanding for Newcastle.

And with 10 minutes to go it was looking like Newcastle could get the win, but then two goals out of nothing via long balls into the box did Newcastle in, all within five minutes.

In the 80th minute Kenwyne Jones missed a great chance to level the scores, when he headed the ball straight at Krul, but within a minute Stoke were level, and it was another high cross into the box, and Walters glanced a good header into the far corner, leaving Krul helpless and it was 1-1.

And would you believe it, four minutes later Stoke were 2-1 up, and it was yet another long ball forward, that  was headed down by Jones and Jerome hit the ball home nicely for the winner.

Until those last 10 minutes, it looked like Newcastle would win this game, but like all teams lacking confidence. we found a way to somehow lose this game.

It’s four games lost on the trot now, and only one point from the last five games – and this is now a crisis for the Newcastle side – and I’m sorry to have to say that – but it’s true.

When was the last time we had only one point from 5 league games?

It’s going to be a very tough season for the lads from now on, since we seem to lack creativity in midfield, without our best players in there, and Yohan Cabaye is out until February, and he seems irreplaceable.

There will be a lot of concern at Newcastle United after this latest defeat – there’s no doubt at all about that – and the teams we have lost to do not include any of the top teams in the league.

And there’s no other players to come in either – so that’s why we think this is now a crisis for the team.


Stoke City (4-5-1): Asmir Begovic; Ryan Shotton, Ryan Shawcross (c), Robert Huth, Geoff Cameron; Jonathan Walters, Glenn Whelan, Steven Nzonzi, Charlie Adam (Michael Kightly 68), Matthew Etherington (Cameron Jerome 68); Peter Crouch (Kenwyne Jones 40)
Subs not used : Thomas Sorensen, Matt Upson, Wilson Palacios

Newcastle United (4-4-2): Tim Krul; Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Davide Santon; Vurnon Anita (Sammy Ameobi 87), Cheick Tiote, James Perch, Jonas Gutierrez; Papiss Cisse (Nile Ranger 87), Demba Ba
Subs not used: Rob Elliot, James Tavernier, Shane Ferguson, Gael Bigirimana, Sylvain Marveaux

Referee: Howard Webb (Yorkshire)
Bookings: Stoke City – Adam (28), Cameron (58); Newcastle United – Santon (15), Perch (18)

Tags: Match Reports · Newcastle News · Premier League

79 responses so far ↓

  • 1 colwell // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Pards has said we won’t go far wrong with performances like tonights.

    Is this guy taking the f~cking pi’s

  • 2 nico // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    Why no Marvo????

  • 3 ginkoh // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    We’re not unlucky, we’re not good enough.

  • 4 Crawfordladd17 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    We are crap end off

  • 5 catchy in norway // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    86:12 Substitution
    (Newcastle) makes a substitution, with Sammy Ameobi coming on for Vurnon Anita.

    jonas our worst player stays on,,

    anita our best player goes off

    its a huge joke this to pardew

  • 6 GeordieAnt // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM


    Lads come on….I’m as gutted about our form as the rest of you, but the fact of the matter is…there was a difference between this game and the rest….today we have positives to take out of the game.

    1. Anita looks to be getting used to the pace of the league
    2. Cisse actually looked like he was returning to form, a lot more confidence in his overall play…ran for the ball more, defended well, and never gave up
    3. Ba and Cisse were playing quite decent as a pairing
    4. Colo looked solid apart from for a couple moments
    5. Perch again…apart from a couple silly tackles looked solid.

    It’s not all doom and gloom. Instead of bitching and calling for Pardew’s head and crying that we’re gonna get relegated…why don’t we do what we’re best at…stick behind the team…be the 12th man…and hope we can build on the performance today. Those saying it was a shit performance…honestly…I question your knowledge of football.

    Lets keep showing the world why we’re known as the best supporters in the world…lets keep supporting our team no matter what, no matter how disappointed we may be….there are still plenty of games left, and our team are going to need our support every step of the way.

  • 7 Toon1978 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM


  • 8 Dannyo // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    First off, i know i’m not in training every day, so i base my oppinion on what is viewed on the pitch.

    I think Tav is a good option at CB. Comfy on the ball, has bags of pace to make up for mistakes, good chance to learn with Collo on his side.
    Sammy is a decent goal threat i think, i see him having potential in a nr. 10 role.
    Campbell is still injured, if he wasn’t, he’d be there ahead of Nile imo.
    Biggie has gone a little lost, but doesn’t add anything just yet.
    Jonas needs to be out of a starter, Fergy, Sammy, Marveux, all options you could atleast test ahead of him.
    None can be worse, surely.

    And if you want creativity, you surely cannot field 4 DMs in a midfield. You gain nothing going forward, the link will be gone with the strikers and you invite pressure, cause you only have DMs to break up play.
    Usually u’d have wingers or a 2nd CM to bring the ball forward, but not with that lineup you dont.

  • 9 Magpies-till-d3ath // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    Pardew Out!!!! Seriously!! 🙁

  • 10 Nufc-83 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    I am astounded that people still have the energy to come out with the positives after watching our performances. We are the worst team in the league by a country mile (not on paper as individuals but as a team) we cant string more than 3 passes together we are officially the most direct team in the league which if we had carroll up top i would say fair enough crap football but maybe effective. We have a manager who continues to play two sts who look like they are blind when they play together week in week out regardless of injuries we should be playing a 5 man midfield with one of them up top.

  • 11 ONLINE GUY // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    Willo lets us down every match ..he is a calamity waiting to happen and I said it last week and the week before at 75 mins all he does is flap a half hearted leg around he cant even lift his leg up or run he is absolu **ed on 75 mins or less every game He has not got the energy or pace or power of thought at this level he is asked to do a job he cannot have a hope in hell of doing do you think stoke got any ball in the last 10 mins ,,they could smell willo’s exhaustion. its the same every game .

    Sammy Ameobi is a joke as a footballer ..he’s sunday league standard ..

    How Marvo did not get on beats me ..Pardew is scared.

    GIve Pardew 3 more games and if no win, then
    Peter Beardsley is a great manager waiting to happen.

  • 12 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    And we should have had a penalty. As Pardew has said, the improvement today from Sunday was immense.


  • 13 cyprus // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    We were playing better in our relegation season!! Really can’t explain these performances… We must scrap against Wigan, play dirty, do what it takes. Stuck on 14 like we were on 29, a couple years ago. But this time, there’s time. We need 3 GAME CHANGERS at 30 million, believe me that will sound cheap compared to another season in the Championship

  • 14 BelfastMagpie // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Pardew seems to think we played well,going buy his interview??

    I didn’t watch it.

  • 15 nimo // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    geordieAnt, just waiting for geordieDecs post,, but you make alot of valid points to be fair

  • 16 ToonDownSouth // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:23 PM


    Agreed. I know we both like to be very objective, and I agree that we don’t see the players in training every week so it’s not too easy to judge.

    But surely it could not be worse than this.

  • 17 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    I’m convinced that somehow, in the last
    3 years, Newcastle fans have became one of if not the worst set of fans in the league. I’m not the only person to say this either. Just saying.

  • 18 Nufc-83 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Although in all my negativity i still believe we should keep pardew and give him a chance to get players through the door in jan. If nobody comes in and he comes out with pathetic excuses which i am expecting tbh i will be all for getting rid.

  • 19 Rake // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    @1 Well he wants to make the players believe we are playing better so they have more confidence. I think I would try the same, tell them it’s an improvement but we still have a long way to go to get to the performances we are capable of.

  • 20 Big Pappa Cissé // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Hey don’t worry Demba, I have no problem playing you in the middle even if it means the demise of NUFC as a premier league club. I mean I could play you out left and we could start winning again but who wants that right. After all I have just got an 8 year contract and will be laughing all the way to the bank

  • 21 Dannyo // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    I am severly dissapointed in the lack of boldness coming from Pardew.
    I can understand his values, but those values are not halting this slide.
    Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal and Fulham in December mate.
    I dunno anymore…

  • 22 nick_9 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    BandB from the preious thread here here.You certainly dont hear the Positive fans at st james, not from where i am sitting. It seems a unanimously unhappy crowd. We are a shambles and have five tricky games coming up, not confidence building games like these were meant to be.

    Rhythm, Injuries, Suspensions, Europe shut up and get on with it, im done with the Crao now, ACTIONS

  • 23 Nufc-83 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Conaldo yes because we have fans like you going on about how well we played when we are clearly playing the worst football in the league by a long way.

  • 24 catchy in norway // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    by guys

    im not coming back until he is out

    some of you must think this is a huge joke,, or are totally blind and kknow nothing about football

    ED,, your in that group to

    you a fan ,, not a jurno,, say what you think, or post things about simpson shagging around

  • 25 mattyNUFC // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM


    don’t want to start some inane blog rivalry but with that comment you are completely deluded

    i trusted pards to change something at southampton. moreover i expected something here

    he’s as delusional as you are, resting on laurels hardly earned from last season

  • 26 blew // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    I watched the game and there was more effort than Sunday, Colo made the difference. The result was settled by 2 crosses and Williamson ball watching on both occasions, why he allowed 2 free headers and not attack the ball beggars belief. However I am talking about Willo, Hartlepool level at best, but AP picks him.

  • 27 Marty-Toon // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Many people complaining that we’re playing direct football ….let’s just say that Stoke played direct and got 2 goals out of it as do Everton.
    The difference being tat they put the ball in dangerous areas and hurt teams with it.

  • 28 Kyo // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    I don’t think sacking Pardew is the answer (it’s not exactly his fault that Ashley didn’t invest in the summer) but who gives a manager EIGHT year contract? WTF.

  • 29 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    We are not playing like a relegation side. Relegation sides lose the ball and throw their hands in the air and give up. They don’t make runs, they don’t take shots.

    We are not playing like a relegation side. This run of form is beyond me really. I don’t understand. Today, we should have won IN MY OPINION And I’m going to get abuse for saying it. Isn’t this great!

  • 30 mattyNUFC // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:27 PM


    colo def was the difference tonight. what little passing-intent we had started from him

    colo is immense but cannot singlehandedly reroute a sinking ship

  • 31 Klam3r // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:27 PM

    Pardew is deluded. I do NOT trust him, at the minute.

  • 32 Jail for Ashley // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:27 PM

    Band B,
    Glad you’re still about as I never did get to thanking you for your support of some of what some people describe as mundane what’s too good for Ashley posts.

  • 33 ToonDownSouth // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:28 PM


    I know mate. I’d be genuinely terrified of who would replace Pardew is he was removed.

    Di Matteo is the only manager I can imagine taking the job, but his football is hardly inspiring. However, a CL winning manager would definitely inspire some confidence in the players, and at least he knows how to win ugly.

    (As supposed to playing ugly and still not winning).

    But imagine if we brought in Steve Kean or McLeish? The players would just give up entirely.
    My biggest fear is us hiring Joe Kinnear Mk.2 and being relegated in humiliating fashion again.

  • 34 BelfastMagpie // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Catchy are you having one of your breakdowns again??

    Who’s gonna run the gang in your absence??

  • 35 fray bentos // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Goodbye Catchy, i don’t agree with you often but i feel you have sense of humour, i forgive you for calling me an idiot

  • 36 kevymartins // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    When stoke were making there 2 subs I took a very large breath as I knew what toni pullis was at ..I then rememberd alan pardrew has no knowledge of when or what sub to use so at that point I knew we were going to lose so I took antoher very large breath then watched us get beat..

  • 37 jimmysmith // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Team in crisis puts in 100% in a tough, tough, testing encounter. I have renewed faith. C’mon Toon!

  • 38 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Bye catchy.

    Williamson has been absolutely dire. But who else do we play? We need a cb in January. And a right back.

    It’s not Pardews fault that lambias was to busy with space cakes and prozzies in Amsterdam to buy the players we needed. Blame him. Support the team.

  • 39 EastEndMagpie // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    what the f happend to abeid and amalfitano?? i thought abeid looked a decent player, scored in europe, in the state we are now surely he should get atleast a game?

  • 40 BandB // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    That’s because I know that out there in that crowd you are sitting there trying to suck the ball into the net. Like me.

  • 41 Nufc-83 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    Hahaha Conaldo have you just started watching football serious question?

    marty toon stoke and Everton also have the personel to play direct both in height and also crossing ability. We have neither yet play more direct than both teams so whats going on there???

  • 42 ONLINE GUY // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    Jonas is finished as a forward or mid ..he cant turn with the ball anymore ,,cant beat a man ,,remember him flying at players beating one after another ..Unless Pardew has told him not to ? Full back for Jonas ..Santon on the right for a while ..

    I always thought give SIMPSON a chance but the last few games he is a massive disgrace and Simpson should never play another game for the TOON .
    He does not give 2 F**s ..he does not care .

    And Curtis Goode will do a better job than willo ..come to think of it so would me Grannie. HE is Absolute Shite as a Footballer . SHocking

    Maybe the FA will give us special dispensation to Sign a center back ? If they watch any video of him playing in the prem they might be embarrassed enough to let us sign one ?

  • 43 nick_9 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    CONALDO – losing four games or 10% of your league games in a row seems like relegation form to me. Face facts lad we are in the mire, we are two points off the drop with tricky games coming up. Fulham away is just as tricky as Stoke and Southampton away and we both know what happened there. Whats to say Redknapp wont have QPR fighting by the time they visit us, those are the two easier games of the next six. Let me tell you we might win those two but if we lose the other four we are right in the 5h17 and you need to come to terms with it. We are 14 games in now and lucky that other teams have been just as bad, i just hope we dont have players jumping ship in january

  • 44 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    Jimmy – exactly how I feel. Showed real spirit today. A team with that much fight won’t go down.

    Teams go down when they lose faith,
    Sack their manager and the fans turn against them.

  • 45 ToonDownSouth // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    I honestly have faith in this group of players – especially once Pardew and the other staff got their heads all facing n the right direction, and all working for the team like their lives depended on it.

    I wasn’t even too devastated in September when we failed to re-enforce, because I genuinely feel this group of players could challenge for Europe year on year.

    Maybe the main thing that a lack of investment affected was team moral. Maybe HBA, Cabaye, Colo, Santon etc questioned where the club is heading?

  • 46 fray bentos // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM


    it sounds as if you really were the last straw there with Catchy

  • 47 BelfastMagpie // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    They’ll replace him with Mcleish or somebody else who’s desperate for a job.

    They need to scrap there transfer policy,If they want to attract a good manager.

    And they’ll never do that.

    Purple chips world wide… lol

  • 48 ToonDownSouth // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM


    This is, embarassingly, the second time I’ve read one of you mock Pardew quotes and thought it was the real thing 😀

    You’re getting good at that (;

  • 49 dazb1980 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    Instead of fuc’kin moaning and saying sack the manager what we need to do is make St James a cauldron on Monday. Get behind the team and manager 100% and keep the faith. If you haven’t got a ticket there only £15, so instead of posting shi,te on here get to the match and support your team.

  • 50 Dannyo // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:34 PM

    Lol, it’s not exactly mouth watering, no.
    Could we get Moyes tho? I hear Pep is available 😛

    No, it has to be a manager willing to work under certain constraints. It’s not bad constraints in the way that we’re a club with little money.
    But it’s constraints in the matter that the manager has to be patient at certain times. Value for money is evidently VERY hard to come by as we’ve experienced.

    I couldn’t name one manager that is good enough and available enough tbh.
    It all depends on MA and DLs views.

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:34 PM


    What makes Newcastle fans the worst?

    All fans if any team complain if the have a bad patch.

    Arsenal fans wanted wenger out this time last year. Subderland tore into Steve Bruce after a bad run. West ham fans booed allerdyce when they were top of the championship.

    All fans are the same. If the team is playing consistently below what they are capable of the fans are never happy.

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Pards won me over not with the Lpool win or the Stevenage defeat, but the eleven match unbeaten run which was only unbroken in the game that I saw us play best against Chelsea, I missed a lot of late season due to work, but I although I’m still on his side and blame the whole affair on Dastardly, forget Mashley now there’s no point, I’m starting to despair about some of the statements he his now coming out with.

  • 53 Nufc-83 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    I could see a club like united coming in for HBA in jan with a reasonable offer not massive. He is good enough to play in a top team easily and would be even more effective at the likes of chelsea for me he would be considered one of the best players in the prem if he played for a top team. We will obviously reject the offer but will he want to go and force it through thats the question.

  • 54 kevymartins // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    And people nobody cares that we lost 4 games in a row its the fact were losing to teams that are in the bottom 3 ..what happens when we play all the top teams again .where will we end up in the league?

  • 55 OhSholaAmeobi // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    conaldo i agree, the atmosphere is dead at home games, we need to get behind the team on monday from the off instead of waiting for a positive and booing and berating players every time there’s a mistake of some sort.

  • 56 ToonDownSouth // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:37 PM


    Not Di Matteo? I’m not suggesting that would be the a good option, but he’ the only one that springs to mind.

    I always thought that if Pardew could instil a winning mentality in the players, then more fluid football would follow. Doesn’t seem to be happening though.

    I’m mainly just getting sick of Pardew’s patronising spin after every single game. It’s genuinely offensive to the fans.

  • 57 Raztoonarmy // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Pardew what a duck egg playing 4-4-2 again , why didn’t marv get a game

  • 58 Earl // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    I agree with Conaldo. Recently we have been the most fickle fans I have ever seen. I was at both the Swansea and West Ham games and I could hear a pin drop the atmosphere was that dire, and this was before the game had even kicked off!. Yet we are perfectly capable of sitting behind our keyboards and ranting on. I aint trying to cause a stir on here but I’ve never seen so much negativity! Get behind them or support another team!

  • 59 fray bentos // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:40 PM


    There really is nothing worse than booing your own players

    In my opinion the only times it acceptable is incidents like the Dyer/Bowyer spat and such

  • 60 dcro1 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    I’m not advocating Routledge as a world beater but to replace him with a footballer with the worst decision making I have ever seen in Obertan showed very poor judgement.

    We made a major mistake letting Guthrie go or not replacing him with somebody who could step in and lead our attacking movements from the middle. Who was his replacement? Amalfitano?? Anita is not the same type of player.

    Even Leon Best and Lovelyhands (who again I understand their limitations) were not replaced in terms of squad depth.

    Our creativity from out wide is non-existent. Even HBA (genius though he is) and the excellent Santon come inside at every opportunity. Add to that Danny Simpson who is so limited with the ball it’s embarrassing. Williamson out of his depth at this level, two good forwards who aren’t a combination + injuries + loss of confidence and we are serious contenders for the drop.

  • 61 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:41 PM


    We could have 500,000 thousand in a stadium and that wouldn’t help the players the way they are playing at the moment.

  • 62 Marty-Toon // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    What is Pardew on about??
    “We made a couple of errors in those goals and that has cost us. We do not make many errors but we have tonight

    We actually do make a lot of errors Alan but I agree that we were much better tonight,we didn’t deserve what we got

  • 63 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    I don’t think there is a manager out there who would improve enough to warrant change of manager. From all reports, the whole squad
    Like Pardew. As people have said, who wants joe kinnear MK2??

    I have my opinions, my points of view, my way of dealing with losses. I am a naturally optimistic person in all aspects of life, it often ends up causing problems for me. I think life is too short to see the negatives in everything.
    I don’t see why I should get abuse for being optimistic. For hoping that we can turn this round, for hoping we don’t get relegated. I try to see the positives, and found a lot from today. If it wasn’t for two defensive mistakes from Williamson we would have been home dry. Call me deluded if you want to, I just don’t feel much like spending my free time talking about how shit all our players are, how shit and clueless out manager is and how we should apoint that kid who got the manager job from Football Manager games.

    I want to talk about the team I love, and I am up for reasonable discussions and debate. I am happy to talk about the possible reasons for our poor form, why we lose, why things aren’t going our way, but the people on here don’t want to discuss that, they want to copy and paste the same posts and mindlessly bash the players and manager.

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM


    There is nothing wrong with complaining here. I would rather have everyone here slagging the team off than doing in from the stands on a match day.

  • 65 North Atlantic Magpie // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    Winning or losing Pardews style of is not for me. I would get rid of him just on his style of play.

  • 66 dazb1980 // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    I can’t believe some of the comments…actually having conversations about who our next manager should be. Put it this way we would be lucky to get Mick Buxton and even if it was Guardiola would he do much better under the restraints the board put on transfers etc.

  • 67 EastEndMagpie // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    williamson is s joke, danny simpson, a joke….

    those 2 are most of the problem… if only we had got douglas and debuchy……. the worst part about this is i fear that we have lost the best oppurtunity in years, to push realisticly for top 4, with this squad, 4/5 players in the summer, and we would be where west brom are now… if mike ashley had actually backed his manager we wouldnt be in this mess, i get as frustrated with pards as much as the next fan, but in all honesty look at what the man has to work with!!! his squad is shot to bits, he’s being forced to play second rate or palyers who simply are not ready yet….

    everyone knocks our football, or his football, well a lot on here anyway, has everyone forgot the 10+ pass moves we where doing towards the back end of last season?? when we where knocking the ball around theyre box for fun? the man does know how to play good stuff, he’s just had absolutely no backing from that fat b*stard who’d rather spend his money on more shares in companies that his own club… its his fault this has happend and only jis, the only critisism of pards i have is his ridiculous comments which just cant be excused, pretty shocking subs (which leads me back to the fact the man has had no money at all to strenthen properly), and the fact that he hasnt stood up to mike and demanded he gets more money….

    i bet our big names so fed up, they probably all expected some decent players to come in and help them push on this season, instead they got 2 18 year olds and an unknown… bassicly mike ashley saying, “i could spend a bit to ease the pressure and strain on fitness to key players due to the extra games and travelling, but instead, ill sell 3 decent squad players, buy in some teenagers, and then expect my bargain buys to do it all over again!”

    absolute c*nt.

    forget a new manager, pardew is a good manager, we need a NEW OWNER!!!!

    the fact southampton spent 20+ million because they got into the prem, and we didnt even spend 10 after a season in which we where 1 result of 4th, and qualified for europe, is trully shocking, and says it all really….

  • 68 magicbus // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Come the new year we will be in the relegation mire

  • 69 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM


    Nobody is blaming pardew for the transfers or maybe slipping a bit as we have a thin squad

    People are complaining that pardew is getting no where near the best from his current squad

    I’m not demanding he gets sacked. I’m happy to give him time but both pardew and the players are letting us down this year.

    Llambias is the biggest problem at the club for me, total pratt

  • 70 strikernine // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    After 60 hard years of following NUFC I thought I was by now over the garbage dished up by players and managers alike.
    We have a striker in Cisse that does not understand the basic offside rule,we have Tiote who has hardly made a completed pass this season,we have a team of players that can not pass a ball as good as intermediate schoolboys team,we have a manager who must be as blind as Stevie Wonder that continuously praises players who earn more a week tham most supporters do in a year for dishing up these garbage pathetic perfomaces.We have players holding out for bigger payout contracts,IF THEY DON’T WANT TO SIGN P**S THEM OFF.

  • 71 OhSholaAmeobi // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    It’s us that needs to lift them team, not the team lift us, at the moment. We might pay the money to watch but it’s embarrassing when there’s no support in the stadium until we have an attack, or get a corner etc.
    Saw on another forum the other day a man utd. fan commented that our support was shite when they played us and they didn’t know what had happened to the well renowned cauldron we had.
    Starting on monday, we need to get behind them properly, back to the old days, example being the atmosphere when we were playing Boro in the relegation season.
    No matter what you think of management/tactics etc, no player is going to play their heart out if they don’t have the backing of their own fans.

  • 72 Earl // Nov 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    @Transfer Sage

    I aint trying to say we should complain in the stands. I’m just making the point that there seems to be a lack of belief in the supporters before we even kick a ball on match day. Its like we are expecting a defeat. And then when the inevitable defeat happes, were on on this blog cursing everything about NUFC.

    I had a ticket next to the away fans in level seven against West Ham and I was expecting an unreal atmosphere. me and my bro were the only ones standing up. Not one supporter in my block sang and was sat down the whole 90 minutes with the west ham fans singing ‘where is this famous support?’ and for once I was actually in agreement with them!

    I just think that there’s too much doom and gloom surrounding the club at the minute. we could channel some of this frustration into some form of encouragement at home games. we all know we are the 12th man when we want to be, so lets show it!

    On a side note I can’t argue with the support showed by the travelling fans tonight , they were great as ever.

  • 73 Transfer Sage // Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM

    Agree the fans have a part to play but whether the players have 50,000 Singing for 90 minutes or are playing in front of 10 mutes they players and manager are the ones who make a difference.

    Crowds don’t play as big a part as some have you believe.

    We can’t make them play a 5 yard pass to a team mate and not the opposition.

    The basics is what is currently letting the side down, they need to sort that out themselves. That can’t be fixed by us or any manager.

    The players need to sort their act out.

  • 74 Phil K // Nov 28, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    I’m fed up with the excuses.
    Pardew started this crap by making ready made excuses for the players over playing in the European Whatsits.
    Wonder how they’d react to a 40 hour week ?
    Heart attacks ?
    We are dropping like effing stones dropped from a skyscraper, and Pardew is 90% to blame.

  • 75 Earl // Nov 28, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    @Transfer Sage

    You are right about our play. I agree it has been abysmal at times. I just think that some of the comments that have been made are so far fetched its unreal! I not only see see the lack of confidence in the players, but the supports lack of confidence in out team. As soon as Williamson has the ball, you hear the crowd cringing, and he panics. Its the same on the other end of the scale Our impact players feed off the support. Take Ben Arfa for example every time hes on the ball, the crowd are up off their seats willing him to do his magic. And low and behold he produces something incredible that gets us going again.

    I’m not saying that the crowd is the main reason we are playing so badly, I just think that with our fans, there’s always an extra effort and spark in the players when we are at full volume. For example we gave man utd and liverpool (Caroll in particular) a right drumming and the place was bouncing

    Why not show that passion against Wigan Monday night?

  • 76 Phil K // Nov 28, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    How the hell does Williamson keep his place ?
    Perch is a better player from any viewpoint.

  • 77 strikernine // Nov 28, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    just heard Pardew and he reckons we deserved to win??????????
    He was definately watching a different game to me.

  • 78 ronjohno // Nov 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    Watch the video highlights and concentrate on Williamson.
    He hits his own post and his positioning for both Stoke goals was worse than Sunday League.
    Nothing unusual for this excuse of a player and I dont know how Pardew cannot see it game after game.
    Whilst I do not agree with booing ,people should at least accept that good money is paid by us and to some that is the only way of showing their displeasure.
    The club already have our money so staying away would not bother them.
    I agree that we should keep showing our support but when we have to watch likes of that excuse of a centre half (makes Boumsong look a class act), right back and Jonas who hasnt had a decent game all season then patience is wearing very thin.
    Asking for continued support is fine but for goodness sake give us something to EARN it from us..
    I do not expect world beaters but I do expect players to put their heart and soul into a game : chase lost causes. harry the opposition turn a bad pass into a good one just by moving toward the ball.

  • 79 nufc 11 // Nov 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Cant believe people are backing up Colo he was terrible v stoke he was at fault for the two goals plays like his head is elsewhere not the pro everyone making him out to be at all his form has returned to his early days of Colo the clown.

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