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Demba Ba Owes Newcastle Some Honest Answers

9:11 am, Thursday, December 6th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 30 Comments

Demba Ba is getting a bit like Jose Enrique and Danny Simpson –  in talking about his current situation but not saying much. Jose talked about possibly staying on Tyneside for eight months, and would not sign a new contract on Tyneside, and the Spaniard eventually left for Liverpool last year.

Demba Ba – after scoring on Monday night
And it seems to us that Danny Simpson is doing almost exactly the same thing as Jose, and will move in the summer when he becomes a free agent, or in January if Newcastle get a suitable offer for him, and the club can bring in a replacement at right back.

So that’s one concern for Newcastle, since he continues to refuse to sign a new deal on Tyneside, and uncertainty also surrounds Demba Ba, with his agents currently talking to other clubs, and there were even reports yesterday that a Juventas bid that matches his £7M release clause is now imminent.

When asked about the situation by the local press, this is what Ba said yesterday:

“I didn’t even know what was said in the papers because I didn’t read the papers.” “All I know is we’ve proved on the pitch on Monday night and what we did last Wednesday that we still have the spirit and still want to win and go forward.”

Newcastle are said to be still talking to Ba’s people, and are hoping to get a deal sorted out before the January transfer window opens – but another circus like we had in June and July when his release clause was also active – is the very last thing we want in January.

And it’s that uncertainty which has Newcastle not knowing exactly what to do – Ba may sign a new contract and all will be OK – but he could also leave quickly,  if a top club comes in for him and meets the release price.

Then they would need to satisfy his wage demands, but richer clubs can do that a lot better than Newcastle can these days.

Be has told manager Pardew he wants to stay at Newcastle, and he needs to tell Newcastle exactly what his intentions are in January – and that should be Demba Ba doing the talking and not his advisers.

Ba should remember his advisers work for him – and it’s not the other way around.

It will be a tragedy if Ba leaves Newcastle next month. :(

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30 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    I dont know Ed, if an offer comes in and he is okay with it i think he will go.

    Look at michael owen, he had a release clause which kept reducing every year.

  • 2 Transfer Sage // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    indian

    previous post – shola

    I agree shola hasn’t got a great goal return but 2 things.

    1. it’s much much better than rangers.

    2. shola isn’t a goal scorer, he is more of link striker like a heskey, brings others into the game, ba does well when played with shola for example

    Ideally you want a player who can link play but also get in the box and get goals too. Shola isn’t that good but he is the only player of that style we really have. I would like an upgrade of course.

    But from a personal point of view I just like shola, more so over the last 2 years where he seems to have upped his effort in games..whether he is fitter or just being pushed a lot for a place, either way he is useful for the last 20 mins of a game to hold up the ball but I wouldn’t start him.

  • 3 spitfire_ // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    There’s no need for “honest answer”… anybody knows the truth… all players and “agents” want more and more money. It simple as that… this is the facts… the other is just words.

  • 4 WWYCD // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Why does he owe us some honest answers? He”s doing his job on the pitch the rest is between him and the board tbf. We dont know what he wants or what NUFC are offering him so lets not judge him.

    In other news Ranger is starting tonight? Cant wait for everyone to start rating him highly again only for him to let everyone down, another last chance for a kid who deserved none

  • 5 Jan Stavik // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    It’s time to learn now, these clauses have been haunting Toon for ages.

    Still, the wage structure is sound today. Giving Ba 80k is nonsense, if he’s not happy with what he’s offered it’s fair to sell him on to some club that want to pay him silly money.

  • 6 Hatem's better than Messi // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Demba Ba owes us nothing.

    He’s got a contract and has done nothing except score goals for us.

    If his agent is negotiating a new deal, then these rumours are likely just negotiating tactics.

    Demba comes across as a lovely chap and a credit to the club.

  • 7 blew // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    He is fully aware what his agents are doing and he has not stopped them. Ba is in total control of his situation, should he wish to stop the activities of his agents, he would. I would like him to stay and the club rescind the buy out clause, however, Ba wants the best deal and he should be on the clubs top pay scale.

  • 8 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Does he want a move
    OR
    Agent is skint and needs a pay day

  • 9 Transfer Sage // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    As long as Ba gives 100% on the pitch that’s all I care about. If he does as he is told and plays where asked, makes the effort then thats fine.

    Why would a player of senegalese decent, brought up in france, supports PSG, played around europe have a loyalty to a club he has played at for 1 and a half years?

    It’s simple….players want the best financially and to play at the highest level.

    It’s a different balance between these 2 things for each player…if ba wants to get more money that’s fine.

  • 10 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:37 AM

    WWYCD/Hatem
    Completley agree he doesnt owe us anything
    Also have to disagree Ed simmo and enrique do/did nothing but bang on about the contracts ba hasnt actually mentioned it he’s just said he doesnt know whats been said because he doesnt bother reading the papers, cant say i blame him really!

  • 11 terencelim // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    He, like us, like Jose and probably most in the same situation, are just playing the wait game and observing what direction the owner would bring the club toward.

  • 12 Indian Magpie // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    What demba does not read the daily mail. i read the online version daily

  • 13 WWYCD // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Aye Ba has been nothing but professional imo
    As for Simmo and El Toro again we dont know what actually went on/is going on. I hold very little ill feelings towards Jose and I still like Simmo so neither situation bothers me that much…its how football is these days

  • 14 Indian Magpie // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    terencelim,

    The thing about the owner, i think that ship has sailed

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    wwycd

    the only issus i have with ba is not wanting to play left sided….if it’s true…big if there.

    And even then I can’t blame him too much…he is a striker so obviously wants to play through the middle…makes him look bad if he is playing left and not scoring.

    Also it’s more bad management than bad playing if that’s true.

  • 16 south coast toon // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    i think it would cost alot of money to buy a proven prem striker who scores those sort of goals, give him a big pay day, get him to sign 5 yr deal no clause then flog him for 35 mil play him at his own game, if he keeps scoring someones gunna come in we,ve played piss poor this season and hes scored the same as persie.. as for ranger he deserves chances glore hes what 21 and made loads of mistakes but has he raped or killed anyone, failed drug test, broken another players bones with a nasty tackle refused to play out of position, we are all late for work and throw sickies and do silly things when we fall out with girl friends, has he been stuck up a team mates misses well leave him alone he,ll turn good

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    WWYCD
    Tbh i dont think many of us relised queit how good of a player we had when demba signed in fact remember a fair few writting him off as crocked and your right he’s never conducted himself in anything other than a professional manner personally would love to see the lad sign but think theres more too it rather than him just looking for the highest bidder i imagine we have several clause’s written in about his knee

    As for jose your right he never said he’d sign he always said he wanted to see the direction the club was going in and none of us could of predicted last season and would happily see him back

    Simmo is a decent lad but tbh not fussed if he signs or not as i dont see him being in the first team after this season

  • 18 WWYCD // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Sage
    Dont disagree its annoying if Ba wont play on the left but its understandable especially when he is probably the best all round striker we have but I cant fault his work effort, when played in a 442 hes the one who drops back and plays the withdrawn striker allowing Cisse to stay offside I mean up front

    Its Pards problem to deal with it which is why hes aiming for a 4231 imo

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    WW …
    I’m the opposite on Jose,I was a lot more
    angry with him and his manner of leaving than AC ,I thought Jose gave us a right run around saying he would make a decision after we were safe and then pretty much strung us along all summer,still doesn’t excuse Mashley and Dastardly for taking so long to find a replacement though.

  • 20 MichaelMac // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    I wouldn’t like to see him go, but let’s be realistic. If you are earning 40k a week and another company wants to pay you 80k a week, would you really be loyal, especially if you current employer can’t match the offer. Everyone knows footballers only have a short career to earn as much as they can, plus Ba has a degenerative knee condition, so surely he needs to earn while he can?

  • 21 Indian Magpie // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Give BA a reasonable Contract, not what he wants but an upgrade.

    1) Remove the release clause
    2) If he suffers any career threatening injury to his degenerative knee he only gets minimal pay off.

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    south coast toon

    if you give him what he wants and break the pay scale what will other players say…it will cause more problems than it solves.

    will get lesser players saying if he gets 80k i want 40k…get top players asking for the same as ba etc.

    proven goal scorers cost a lot..but thats where our scouting comes in

    michu was 2mil
    jelevic was 7mil
    cisse was 8/9mil for us

    players are available and with our scouting network increasing we should be in a good position.

    nobody came in for ba in the summer so why would they in jan?

  • 23 Jail for Ashley // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    Sct
    I wish you were my gaffa !

  • 24 WWYCD // Dec 6, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Haha I must adimt I was disappointed when Ba was the only striker we brought in, I knew he was a good player but didnt think he would be as brilliant as he has been

    Yeah Jose always said he wanted the club to prove what they were about before he committed to the cause and at the time the club showed very little and didnt offer him anymore of a financial incentive to stay

    I must disagree on Simmo though I reckon if he stays he will see a lot of first team action. I dont expect much from the board in way of new players that are better than our current crop more likely younger models who might end up being better. Id like him to stay but I doubt he will just have to hope for a signing haha

  • 25 WWYCD // Dec 6, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    JfA
    I can understand that about Jose he was a bit of a prat in that way but I got over that when we stuffed Liverpool and he ended up in goal :D

    Id still take him back in a heart beat though

  • 26 Transfer Sage // Dec 6, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    i expect a new RB either in jan or the summer

    they are persuing 3 targets for RB for jan so I think simmo will be back up if he stays but he wont stay

  • 27 pilch // Dec 6, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Speculation is nothing but a pain in the backside. Ba has been brilliant and hasn’t said a word out of place. So let’s just enjoy Christmas and win a few more games before we start bleating about the transfer window – thanks.

  • 28 wynsleap // Dec 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    For once I’m with Ashley and the club on this Ba situation.
    If it’s true he’s asking for £90K a week it’s obvious within the pay structure of the club that he isn’t going to get it.
    What next – Williamson wanting £6oK like Colo?
    Ba should be grateful that the club took him on when others seemed reluctant to do so and are willing to talk to him about a decent uplift on his salary.
    Maybe some system where he is paid extra on his basic for the goals he scores would be worth pursuing.
    If he’s not happy with his lot he should tell the club exactly where he stands and stop all this unsettling speculation.
    Incidentally it will be interesting to see if Ranger grabs his chance tonight and whether he really intends to become the footballer he is being paid to be and which, in fairness, he seems to be capable of.
    Last chance saloon however.

  • 29 south coast toon // Dec 6, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Transfer Sage
    what i was meant to get at instead of letting him leave and getting nowt for him give him what he wants and then get him to sign and then get a big pay day for him, as long as his knee dont give out,ashleys a gambler hes got to be worth the same as perse carrol, torres to loose a goalscorer of that calibre for nothing and to pl side would be gutting … its probably all speculation. but to see him walk for nowt means he wont be replaced its was hard enough spending the carrol money
    i would hate to see him go,the cats out the bag for us on bargins cant see any club selling to us cheap…mind you bigi at 1mil looks a bargin at the mo.anyone think anita is starting to look like good biz at 7mil now
    at some stage to keep any quality striker at the club we r going to have pay out top draw wages or they will walk

  • 30 JARRAMAG // Dec 6, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    Top class strikers win you games and we have one who cost nothing.
    He has proven his class and fitness since he came and top strikers are always the best paid because of the job they do.
    If we give him a 3 year contract on say £75k per wk it will cost us less than £12 mill for 3 seasons,but if we let him go it will cost a lot more to replace him with a quality proven premiership goalscorer.
    In my humble opinion we have no option because without Ba we will go down as apart from him and Cisse who will score our goals?




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