Liverpool and Arsenal are on red alert following news that Newcastle are ready to sell Demba Ba, according to the Daily Mirror – and the Tyneside club are believed to be growing more frustrated as the Senegalese’s agents are refusing to commit to a new deal, and Newcastle are now prepared to let him leave in January.
Demba Ba – has scored 10 of Newcastle 16 league goals this season
The Daily Mail is reporting Newcastle are ready to sell Demba Ba in early January, so we will have time to sign a replacement in the January transfer window.
We don’t know how true this story is, but with Newcastle struggling in the league this season, to sell a player who has scored 10 of Newcastle’s 16 league goals this season (62.4%), it is a dangerous move – but Newcastle cannot stop it from happening.
But let’s say this right now – if Demba Ba leaves in January, and Newcastle are in trouble in the league table – which is likely, it’s probably best he leaves – if he cannot show any loyalty, especially if our club is in the relegation zone.
The reports are that Ba wants around £80K a week to stay on Tyneside, and Newcastle have even offered him more than the £60K/week that Coloccini is getting, but his agents turned that offer down.
So it’s hardly surprising if Newcastle cannot get him to sign a new deal that has no release clause in it, that they may be prepared to sell him – because if a club does come in and offer the £7M release clause, there’s precious little the club can do about it.
Arsenal, Liverpool and other clubs are thought to be interested, and the state of affairs with Demba Ba is hardly what we need right now – given the team is struggling big time in the league at the moment, with our fifth defeat in six league games last night at Craven Cottage.
If we lose Ba in January, then we could be in big trouble if we cannot get a new player into replace him quickly, and the longer Newcastle continues in their current slump in the league, the more concerning it will be.
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26 comments so far
hdavid23
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Comment #1if he doesnt want to be here, then sell him…
Transfer Sage
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Comment #2We have no control in this situation…if somebody matches the clause and he wants to go there that’s it.
No point worrying…we have to wait and see what happens
hotdog
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Comment #3I though Ba had a decent game last night. He was always looking for the ball and trying to link up play. I think he will go though as money talks.
I am coming to the conclusion that we need to sign two centre backs and move Collo to Right Back, i think he would do a cracking job there.
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Comment #4Sell the whole god d*mn team (just keep Benny) – starting with the defense!
…I’ll even drive them to the airport or pick them up; which ever is easiest 😉
catchy in norway
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Comment #55catchy in norway // Dec 11, 2012 at 9:19 AM
I really fail to see what not getting in more players has to do with how we play football
What I have seen is good players we have turn into bad players
Start with jonas , said it many times before used to be my fave player, now he is a circus clown that just runs all day, I know there is a good player still in him
Tiote , he came and for 2 seasons was immense , a rock in the centre, suddenly he carnt tackle or pass the ball,
Cabaye, first few matches and about 5 at the end of last season he looked amazing , but only when he is higher up the pitch we get nothing but running from him when he plays deep
Ba a CF that needs service , can only play this roll, stick him left or right , you lose his game, which is goals
Cisse as above , but even more so, has no hold up play at all, great finisher, when cabaye and HBA where right behind him last season feeding him , he was among the best in the world at what he dose
Ppl talk about his man management skills , I really think they only good on players at a very low level, the players I mention above are class players in the right positions, but Pardew concentrates on the likes o obertan perch shola Williamson bringing them up and forgets his good players,
His mannmanegment skills with players like marv and the kids is very bad, for him to come out and blame the kids last week was inexcusable , those same kids got into the next round of Europe ,
Simpson is the closest one out the door, why is he still in the team, tav can do a job will make mistakes but he will improve
Pardew needs a long look in the mirror , he will who is at fault, his tactics, his training methods, his team selections , his subs, I don’t see how MA can have anything to do with them
The squad is stronger than last season, Anita , he is a very big plus in the last few games, others should be one season more wiser in the prem
dcdick
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Comment #6Goodbye Ba…….Goodbye Simpson………who’s next then ?
Time to decide who’s to blame & do the blame thing QUICKLY then get on with playing football
Dick
catchy in norway
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:35 AM
Comment #73hotdog // Dec 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Your mad 🙂
Demba had a poor game , his link up play wasn’t really there and had a few long shots that where very tame,
Anita looked good but I’m still unsure which position he played, AMC or DMC , he just had a busy game
Santon was always looking to get forward as he had the whole left side to look after
Krul , great stopper , but his distribution is very poor , no quick attacks get started from him, unless you count the hoof it long balls,
catchy in norway
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:36 AM
Comment #86dcdick // Dec 11, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Who is to blame in your eyes?
davybtoon
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Comment #9Exactly we don’t have a say n if he stays or goes if someone pays the clause n pays him n his agents the huge signing on fees he’s gone
BigKirky
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM
Comment #10We need players playing positions who have an end product, i.e. Contribute to assists, goals, successful attacking runs on a regular basis.
If the team is working hard passing and moving to then create that one moment for a cross, but the cross is coming from Jonas or Simpson, then we are more often than not just turning possession back over to them which gived them the chance to attack us. Which is a complete waste of time and we are just getting closer to the end of the game without scoring.
If you fill your team with people who have an end product in their position first, then find how their skills blend to make a team, we will do a lot better. If you have no end product, how are we expected to suddenly come up with quality crosses, runs or assists etc. There should be two or three (LW RW and CAM) of Ben Arfa type players in the team. We cannot just rely on him to prop the whole team up. It’s not fair on anyone.
toonin
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:48 AM
Comment #11I’m thinking MA/Pardew wants to do what Sir Alex Ferguson did, keep the squad, add 1 or 2 players, use the youth squad and develop them to be a great player someday…but this is not working so far..
Sell anybody i don’t care except Cabaye and HBA, and bring Carroll, Nolan and Barton back…no matter that they are’nt performing well in each of their club right now except Nolan, at least they play with their heart and soul for us (which i don’t see it gonna happens anyway). I believe we will get positive results.
Give big Andy the magical number 9! He’ll score like crazy…I for whatever reason still believe in that…=)
sirtoongospel
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Comment #12I still cant believe the ground Cisse had to cover to get into scoring positions last night. Time after time he won the ball and played the first pass in our half, we went forward and he was the only one in the box!!!! I woud give anything to see the stats of ground covered from last nights game.
Anita was the same. Relentless. Defensively I thought Simmo did really well. It’s just going forward that we don’t get much. But if our midfield did their job we might not need an end product from full backs!
We need to change a few players for us to take a step in the right direction.
With Ba, saying the club are prepared to let him leave is daft. We can’t do anything about it! Also blaming his agents is wrong. The agent works for the player, and works to their instructions. Anything they do or say will be on Demba’s say so.
He wants a big pay day somewhere else. Let him have one. We need freshening up. But most importantly, we bought a striker for £9 million, gave him the number 9 shirt, he was a revelation, then all of a sudden, from pre season, he was moved out wide. What did Cisse do to warrant that decision?
It has ruined our football, we have no thrust, no focal point, and no direction. Let’s be honest, the manager has bottled it because he can’t handle Demba Ba.
jimiley
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Comment #13We do not need Ba. We have Cisse and Shola. Bring on the mancs!!!!!
derekm
Dec 11, 2012 at 9:54 AM
Comment #14the players know that some big names are about to be sold -hence the appalling drop in form this year
bassongs_of_praise
Dec 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Comment #15I hope we do get rid, clearly has never been commited to the cause – always looking at that next lucrative transfer.
He may have scored a few goals this season but we have changed the system to accomodate him in a central role which has been detriment to the team and in particular the likes of Cisse.
Won’t lose any sleep if he goes.
Raktim Sharma
Dec 11, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Comment #16We keep talking of our managers hired and fired whimsically, but after Shearer we don’t have that striker who has gone on and on for years. And don’t say Shola, I mean someone who has hung around for at least 5-6 years and scored when we needed. We should keep a good striker for the long run, pay well if we have to and make him that permanent no 9 for the toons. Cisse can be that, and the way forward in a post Ba NUFC should be him as a front man with three behind him…Marv, Cabs and HBA for instance.
And Ba is in the business of making money, which I wont criticize but wish we had a stevie G or a shearer somewhere.
dcdick
Dec 11, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Comment #17catchy in norway // Dec 11, 2012 at 9:36 AM
6dcdick // Dec 11, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Who is to blame in your eyes?
You start at the top Catchy when it’s time to blame then work your way down till you identify the problem. Ashley is the easy target, but Pardew is the coach/team manager or whatever you call them these days and he should take most of the blame after basking in the awards from last season.
Also ….if players on many thousands of £s A DAY ! need to be motivated well I know what I would do with them (& it would not be pretty !)
mumbaNi
Dec 11, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Comment #18@ 5 bang on with your comments – i thought the same last night. He has restricted every ounce of flair and attacking in that team (santon will be next !). He said ben arfa wouldnt be in the team until he learned the ‘team ethic’ and ‘what we are all about’ – well… if he hadnt got frustrated and taken a shot last night we wouldnt have scored. Whatever tactics/team ethic he has instilled is slowly choking us now and the players are now scared to attack or make a mistake.. and thats exactly what they are now doing.
I dont know how to fix it or make it right… but fulham had a go at us last night… really attacked with purpose with some nice moves… we only try to attack down the left or hope for an awful deep cross from simpson on the right.
In my opinion we are as one dimensional as stoke – except they can score.
bob52
Dec 11, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Comment #19Ba’s agents are pushing this through and he doesn’t seem to have any say apart from he loves Newcastle. He is going there’s nothing we can do but, it might be a blessing as he can’t gel with Cisse and we have a chance to get someone who can.
HullMag6
Dec 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Comment #20Offer ba to psg for exchange with sakho to reinforce where its needed. Everyone wins then.
magpiedan
Dec 11, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Comment #21Ill be honest, Ba is starting to wind me up. As good a goal scorer as he’s been, he’s greedy, sometimes a touch lazy and did I mention a bit greedy. Cissè hasn’t been on form I think because of Ba. 7.5 mil plus a bit from Ashley’s coffers and we could buy someone like Remy or bid for De Jong again. Whatever happened to Erdinc? Or Gameiro he’s surely a bench warmer at PSG. All not African and all would be in our price range. Plus all a bit more technical and suited to Pards “alleged” fluent attacking style. Ba seems more bambi than messi in terms of fluency. Maybe I’m just reeling from last night.
juliogeordio1956
Dec 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Comment #22Let Ba go and please let him take Tiote with him. The sooner the African Cup takes Tiote away the better. This once star player now runs around like a headless chicken, has no sense of when it would not be prudent to give a fee-kick away and can’t pass the ball to save his life…Oh and did I mention that he gets caught in possession a lot. Thank god for Anita, Ben Arfa and Collo…and can anyone tell me what the team trains during the week… because it certainly isn’t passing the ball, defending or attacking set pieces ?
toonicle
Dec 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Comment #23Might not be the end of the world. Get someone for a good deal that can play up front with Cisse.
toonluvva
Dec 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM
Comment #24It looks like last season when we punched well above our weights was a fluke. This season we have been brought back down to earth. There is no single area that has caused this. MA & DL did not help in the summon by not investing in the squad, perhaps they believed theirr hype about the club. Injuries have been a concern, but again not the whole problem. Pardews tactics have been puzzling also. There is also a disconcerting feeeling (IMHO) that sometimes some players have not contributed as much this season as last.
A lot of problems with no easy solutions. Very worrying as I can easily see us drop into the bottom 3 by the time the January window closes. I just hope that MA opens his wallet in January, Pardew finds the right balance to the side and that senior players either put up or leave. If this happens we could look forward to a brighter end to the season, and finish comfortably in the top 10.
cornishman
Dec 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Comment #25I f Ba is going in January lets make sure we have the replacement in as soon as. This will he won,t he is doing us no good whatsoever. Also this mess the back, one long ball and we,re split open time after time. we need a decent centre half with some pace about him. One more thing, sometimes at the back you have to forget fancy and put your foot through the ball, how many times were we caught in possession.
BennygivesmeTinglyBalls
Dec 12, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Comment #26Its pretty obvious we lack any creatitivy barring Benny, Cabaye and Marveaux to a lesser extent. We need another winger as Jonas no longer contributes anything to the team. Winning free kicks and hard work isnt good enough. We all know Williamson is a championship defender good at winning headers, and Simpson is useless going forward. I have no idea what has happened to Tiote recently as well. Regarding the Ba situation, although he has scored so many of our goals, he doesnt contribute anything else to the team with his slow play. If we played Cisse up top with Benny Cabaye and Marveaux behind, with Tiote and Anita sitting behind, i genuinly believe we would have an exciting team. We do need a box to box midfielder with some presence however someone in the mould of a Yaya. But priorities have to be a CB and RB and willo and simps simply do not cut it. The CB needs to be confident with the ball at his feet so we dont just continuly pump the ball up long. Debuchy would be a dream for a RB even though that story has dragged out for ages. I like Pards but he needs to grow some balls and play the formation atm which suits us best which is the 4-3-3 with Ba out left, we saw what it did last season. Then we can rebuild in January. Have to be optimistic at these times Lads!!!