Newcastle Just A Flash In The Pan – Maybe


Newcastle seem to quickly be losing the good name they created last season as being more than a decent side, and we have found it hard to buy a win over the last seven league games, but hey – we did hammer Wigan 3-0 – but yes – I almost forget – they played with 10 men for all but 12 minutes of that game.

Newcastle United v Wigan Athletic - Premier League

John Carver and Alan Pardew in secret talks

Newcastle are now in 14th in the league, but just two points above three teams on 15 points and Sunderland are just one point behind us now, after their good 3-0 win at home to Reading on Tuesday night, in their make-up game.

And it was put to Newcastle manager Alan Pardew that last season maybe we were just a little lucky, but he still believes Newcastle are a good side, and he doesn’t agree that Newcastle were just a flash in the pan last season:

“No, I think that’s a little bit unfair, because I think that if you’re a good side, you’re a good side and you find a way. But the injuries and the suspensions and the Europa League; you can’t say that hasn’t had an impact. Any logical football person, even our harshest critic as a fan, would say it’s had an impact.

“It’s knocked some momentum out of us, whereas last year, when you have that momentum, you don’t really have to think very much.” “Are we working as hard as we were? Yes. In fact, you don’t have to work so hard when you have some momentum, because the players are in a good place and you rollover from game to game, tweaking things here and there. When results are bad, you’re working a lot harder. “

“It is a combination of things. There is not one big reason for it. You have to balance some of the criticism.” “Some of it has been fair; some of it has not been fair. I have to sift through that and I do with that the players privately.”

It’s now up to Alan and his coaches, and the players too, to start to turn this state of affairs around, and while we would love to win tomorrow against Manchester City at home, if the lads turn up for this game, and put in a fighting performance, then we’ll be satisfied enough.

Then we need to start doing that in each of the remaining games, and if we can do that – we should be OK.

That’s our hope in any case. 😀

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141 comments so far

  • Tinman

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #1

    With players like Krul, Colo, Santon, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse and Ba we are not just a flash in the pan

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  • Zero

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #2

    Colo, Tiote out of form, Cabs injuried, Cisse out of form + carnt lpay with Ba…. leaves

    Krul, Santon Benny and Ba

    erm with both santon and benny liking wing lpay, and Pards liking hoof ball that leaves a wonderful team of

    Krul (lob kicks to) Ba

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  • Tommyy

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #3

    The thing that annoys me about Pardew, is that he just doesn’t seem to learn. He has been in the management business for a long time now, having managers such as Brendan Rodgers work beneath him in the process.
    Yet Brendan Rodgers has got Liverpool playing some good football (not always got the results) with a just as small squad in less than half the time at Liverpool than Pardew has had here.
    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Rodgers but it cannot be denied that he knows how to manage and to coach.
    I just don’t feel as though Pardew has the ability when it boils down to it. Everything he does seems to be reactionary rather than visionary. He has had good players for almost 18 months now, yet we have seen relatively little good football. Every game played appears to be set up as a reaction to what the opposition might do. Never focuses on our own game first, like the top managers do.
    That said I don’t want him gone as he brings us stability and is a decent man manager it seems.
    There are just a lot of mysteries at the moment which leave you scratching your head.

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  • Tinman

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #4

    The fact that Collo, Tiote and Cisse are all out of form can be put down to Pardew. And the fact that Santon and Benny are wingers and we play hoofball is again down to Pardew… The team isnt a flash in the pan, the manager is

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  • Zero

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #5

    True true, like i said if we had Wenger we would be doing excellent now.

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  • Jonny

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #6

    Mancini says that Komany has a ‘2 per cent chance’ of playing tomorrow. Best news i have heard all week. Cisse and Ba against Nastasic and Toure as he seems to have gone off Lescott recently.

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  • Tinman

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #7

    The reason Tiote is out of form is because he is playing a in midfield with very little help from Jonas. Its probably quite hard to play well when your outnumbered in midfield.
    Collo is out of form because he constantly has to cover for Williamson.
    Cisse is out of form because he gets played on the wing.

    We play hoofball because Jonas never offers an option to defenders and Williamson cant play a pass on the deck.

    Stop playing Williamson, Stop playing Jonas, Stop playing strikers on the wing.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #8

    city are vulnerable at the back without kompany

    nastasic and toure are not great….and he changes his full backs so often they don’t get settled

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  • Zero

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #9

    I like it how we are looking at their defense, how about we do this:

    Jonny and TS now look at their forwards, now look at our defense… now think how many goals do you think they are going to score lol

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  • 619nufc

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #10

    Does anyone else think our problems lay deeper than the usual ‘Blame Pardew!’ or ‘blame Ashley’, or even ‘blame the players!’

    I genuinely think a problem we have is our coaches on the training ground. Do John Carver and Steve Stone really striker you all as people who can mastermind great passing football? Just a thought..

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  • Tinman

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #11

    Pardew will probably capitalize on their defensive frailtys and play a 9-0-1 formation

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #12

    619nufc

    i have said for a month or two now we should have a continental style assisstant manager

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  • Jonny

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #13

    @9- i’ll take a 5-4 win. You?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #14

    zero

    aguero and tevez running at wiliamson doesn’t bear thinking about

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  • Zero

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #15

    619nufc, yes i do, its worring that hardly any player can cross a ball, play a weighted through ball, score from a set piece, deal with a high ball into the box, support a player holding the ball up, move into space or drop back to recieve a ball.

    all basic stuff they should be learning in training.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #16

    zero

    a lot of that basic stuff is stuff they should already know too though

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  • Zero

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #17

    @jonny i think it will be a 5-1 thrashing from Mancity… id dare say if their players glue together like on the rare occasions they do it maybe even a 7-0 destruction… but part of me hopes, dreams and prays that city will do that implosion thing again and we will win 2-0

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #18

    balotelli red card and a 2-1 toon win

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #19

    Baloteli will not start guaranteed !

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #20

    blaydon

    as a sub then. he doesnt need long to get sent off

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  • Tinman

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #21

    Man City to score 2 penaltys

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #22

    Ts – roger that 🙂 think we should have a real go at them nobody expects us to get anything from the game … Would rather us go at them than sit back and wait for the inevitable !

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  • JAMSHA

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #23

    ameobi to score an jonas to score to willo to score a own goal.. 2-1 to the toon 😉

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  • Tinman

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #24

    Blaydon, everyone associated with the club would…. EXCEPT Pardew

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #25

    blaydon

    I dont mind what we do as long as there is some attacking intent.

    I dont mind if we go all gund blazing or if we sit back and counter.

    What I don’t want to see is just defensive football offering nothing going forward….as long as we are looking for a goal thats fine with me.

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  • stuart no9

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #26

    619nufc @ 10 yeah i do agree. i think it stems from the core of our club, i also think the physio, medical staff, strength and conditioning coaches ( if we have one ) need ” revitalising” some thing is wrong with our system .

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #27

    Could do with Tevez Augero and Ya Ya to pick up injuries in a 3 way smash on the training ground by J Hart then I would fancy us 😉

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #28

    619nufc
    Hooray someone else with the same thoughts.
    John Carver – great with the discipline side of it, kicks ass and writes a load of notes – maybe he is the tactician but Pardew can’t read his writing ?- interesting to see what Leeds and Plymouth fans think when he managed them
    as for Steve Stone I ain’t got a clue what he does

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  • Graeme

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #29

    Looks like we have been in contact over Mousa Sissoko – Evidently its between us and Juve!!

    No problem there then – that’s the first transfer sorted ready for January lol

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #30

    charlie

    be good if we got a carlos quiroz like fergie had

    somebody with a mentality of a passing game, used to a different football culture.

    How else will pardew learn all these things? he either has to manage in another country or work with people who have experience.

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #31

    Graeme so it’s a safe bet he will be wearing the famous black and white stripes 🙂

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  • 619nufc

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #32

    Just look at the facts really, teams such as City, Chelsea and United have a coaching staff full of European and South Americans

    Now I have NOTHING against Pardew, in fact, I think he’s one of the top managers around, but he can’t be helped by having coaches that are almost carbon copies of himself when it comes to tactics/training?

    I’d say, if we brought in a couple FRENCH SPEAKING coaches, we’d shoot straight back up the league

    Just my opinion of course!

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  • Graeme

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #33

    Blaydon – without a doubt mate lol

    Would be much happier seeing him on the steps of SJP early January, all ready to start!!

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #34

    Likewise I looked him up on u tube and think he would be a great addition just the sort of player we are crying out for …

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  • Zero

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #35

    Graeme it boast the moral of the team to see people coming in and ambition from the club,

    whos that lad from southampton we are ment to be looking at?

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #36

    Zero – Adam Llalana but think he is out injured for a while …

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  • Zero

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #37

    @Blaydon cheers thought it was something like Lalala, hope he isnt too badly injured seemed to be playing quite well from the few games i saw him in.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #38

    Transfer sage
    If Brendan Rodgers learn’t pass and move from Pardew then why isn’t it working at the toon – mind you I am no expert at taticts etc., but I have, think I have seen a change in our play.

    Take Monday against Fulham we passed it on the deck with a lot more tempo until Fulham scored their second then plan hoofball came back into play

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #39

    Zero

    He seems a good player…not sure we really need him though if i’m honest.

    I wouldn’t say not to him signing as long as it is not at the expense of a CB and FB though.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Dec 14, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #40

    We got an extremely talented group of individuals at our club. Pardew is struggling to bring the best out of them. He’s getting his tactics all wrong all the time. With such a talented team, we still play the worst football in the entire division.

    This season will tell us just how good Pardew is. Giving him the 8 year contract is a huge mistake in my opinon.

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