Pardew – Tiote OK But Jonas Struggling For Form


We think Cheick Tiote’s form has been nowhere near his best this season, and he keeps making silly mistakes, like giving away the free kick on the edge of the penalty area last Monday night at Craven Cottage, that cost Newcastle a possible big win.

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Cheick Tiote – nowhere near his best form

And another player who is nowhere near his best form is Argentine International Jonas Gutierrez, and Alan Pardew has talked about both players and their form today, in the local press:

“You have to think about what stimulates the player. Cheick’s performance against Fulham was hot and cold – he did a lot of really good things in that game.” “His stats look really good, but he made two or three big errors that almost cost us a goal, which is unusual for him.”

“It’s not a major issue. It’s not like he was struggling to get around the pitch or that his percentage of passing was way down. That would be a major concern, but there isn’t a lot to be concerned about with him.”

“Jonás, on the other hand, has had a difficult season and I think we’re looking to get a little bit more from him.” “We want him to be more positive and give us a little more je ne sais quoi in the final third. He is battling for that at this moment in time.”

“He’s a player who has done great for us and I have faith in him. I hope he repays that.”

Alan Pardew somehow has to get the very best out of the players he has, and that’s a large part of what being a good manager, and it’s really important when the lads are struggling, as we are at the moment.

Newcastle need both these players to step up to the plate starting tomorrow, in the early game against Manchester City (12:45 pm kickoff), and it will be a great result if we can get anything at all out of the game, which to us looks unlikely.

But that’s what the lads need to do.

What do you think?

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95 comments so far

  • Joe Blog

    Dec 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #1

    Tiote played well, from a Fulham perspective. Most overrated player in the squad.

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 14, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #2

    “He’s a player who has done great for us and I have faith in him. I hope he repays that.”

    he has not done well for us for a long time in the final third

    it all changed when muppet decided to play raylor at lb, and told jonas to cover him, ever since then, he has been a shadow of the player we know,,

    that final third, jonas spends about 5mins per match up there now,, and pardew knows this, he is now deployed as a DMC

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  • Graeme

    Dec 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #3

    I think Jonas needs to be rested – he looks jaded, is completely off the pace, has NO end product, unless he falls over and wins a free kick.

    If he wins a free kick, well, you might as well just pass it back to their keeper for all the good it will do us – How many MONTHS since we scored from a dead ball situation?? I know Pardeaux has said they are addressing it on the training pitch – but where are they addressing it too?? Certainly not to our strikers, that’s for sure!!

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #4

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand

    i dont think we will win tomorrow, fullstop,

    i think we will get steam rollerd,, i know you said the wigan game was an improvement, with 10 men, it looked more of a fair fight ,, tomorrow i think it will be like palying against 14 men,,,

    wigan lacked good forwards and passed all day, with no product, tevez and aguero will be all over, droppin deep,,

    like i said earlier, we lack leadership on and off the pitch

    the team is the one id be playing tomorrow, and your right about perch or willo at CB, i think perch flaps more at CB, he seems more comfertable infront of them, i think his tackling is good, the preasure at CB gets t him

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Dec 14, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #5

    Catchy…Let’s hang on to this Perch at CB issue, it seems it’s one of few things we agree on (not sure it’s middle ground, but we could call it a middle step 🙂 ).

    There is a difference between playing well and playing beautiful football. I do think we were playing well even before they went down to 10 men. We’ll never know what would have happened without the red card, but that shouldn’t take away from how we played imo. On the same hand, we can’t say it’s a game that has turned anything around. Just small steps.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #6

    So why keep playing Jonas? people should be in on merit not bcause he’s a pardew favourite. Stop worrying about being defensive all the time and take the game to the opposition.

    Ok I know we can maybe have to write off a few games in December but I am liking the rumours of M’Biwa, Sissoko and Remy. I just hope it doesn’t turn out to be carroll who comes through the door in Jan, my neck can’t take all the craning as it is!

    433
    Krul

    Anita M’ Biwa Colo Santon

    Sissoko Tiote Cabs

    Benny Cisse/Ba Marveaux/ Remy

    4231

    Krul

    Anita M’ Biwa Colo Santon

    Sissoko Tiote

    Benny Cabs Marveaux/ Remy

    Cisse/Ba

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  • RonVanDam

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #7

    Pardew as a manager is being measured this season. He’s got a talented group of players and he still cannot get the best out of them, no set plays, wrong tactics and bad run of results. Im honestly starting to believe he got his coaching badge from a cereal box

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #8

    Ibizatoon

    we are getting down to the fine print now then 😉

    yes i know,, but i didnt see much improvement, and we will never know, like you say, the red card changed the game, the result is what mattered most on the day,,

    i think moral is veryyyy low right now, and the players will loook at the fixtures and say huuuuuhhhhh

    our team right now playes with now width or no MF, without HBA in MF we have nothing, BA drops very deep to try and get things going, but i would want him higher up the pitch,, pulling defenders around, both him and cisse

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #9

    I agree with catchy @ 2

    He spends 5 minute over there and comes back with a NOSE BLEED

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #10

    Hypothetically speaking

    What would shola be worth, if we paid them 3 million will they take him

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #11

    got man city and norwich on a multi, cmon baby!~
    Norwich a great bet at $2.11

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  • Dannyo

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #12

    A performing Jonas is a great flair player to have.
    But the truth is, his form has been spiraling down for nearly a year now, since last christmas.
    Also, his “good days” and further and further apart. I dunno if he’ll ever “come back”.
    AP keeps fielding him, just like he did Obertan, but Jonas is at the wrong end of his age.
    I dunno, ofc i hope he comes good, but i honestly cannot see it.

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #13

    Why hasn’t been dropped then ?

    I hope people stop making excuses for Jonas now. He’s been rubbish this season.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #14

    Colo-sus from aprevious thread

    Catchy isn’t boring me. He’s saying it like it is. There’s me, Stuart, Robin van dam, cockney magpie and a lot of others who are saying it like it is too. Some people seem in complete denial like pardew is some coaching guru. He isn’t!!

    Even with a couple of injuries we still have vastly superior players to the likes of stoke, swansea, west ham, southampton, Fulham, Wigan etc. Some managers could only dream of managing the likes of Benny, Cabs, Colo etc

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #15

    Crikey! Radamel scored another 5 goals on Sunday, see what he can do against Barcelona this weekend if fit.
    We should be going in for him in January.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #16

    Can’t see him coming good, if we had a bigger squad maybe some rest and the odd reserve game might help him come good…just get his flair back.

    I hate to see him played every week out of form…he has been a legend for the club, just a genuine honest pro who seems to have a love of football and NUFC.

    I just hope fans don’t turn on him and remember what he did and that, although he is out of form, he is still giving his all for us.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #17

    Rotonda

    There are 3 groups, Yours, Ibiza’s and Me :mrgreen:

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  • Joe Blog

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #18

    Indian

    Hypothetically speaking, of course, Shola would score the winner in a match, as you croaked on your death bed, that being the final image you see on this Earth.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #19

    obatoyou

    he will head to madrid…no chance of him coming to us.

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #20

    riddle me this fellas, does one have to go down in the penalty area to get a penalty if one is fouled? or can one get a penalty if one does not go down?

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #21

    Thanks Joe, that ain’t gonna happen

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #22

    obatoyou

    In theory you do not need to go down to win a penalty……however ref’s never really give them if you don’t.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #23

    OBA

    Don’t have to go down,

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  • Adssy Mccc

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #24

    On Jonas:

    I thought I could see a bit more positivity from him against Fulham. He treid to take people on a bit more than of late. On a few occasions he showed good feet and went past people like he used to do. He seemed to be adapting his game into something else from the start of the season and it seems he’s now being asked to go back to more of his old ways. Let’s just hope he can remember how he used to play. Granted, poor final ball is something he’s always had, but he used to cause teams problems with his direct play!

    On the general theme of the game tomorrow:

    If they score early in the game… Our players will know that they are in for it and heads will drop I reckon. first 25 minutes will be massively important!!

    HWTL

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #25

    Can’t remember seeing a pen given without the player going down, discluding handballs and passbacks..

    remember when someone did a passback against us, penalty was awarded after Shearer haggled with the ref.

    Is passback always a penalty too? Haven’t seen one since that day, can’t remember the game..

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #26

    OBA

    Pass back is a INDIRECT FREE KICK,

    Remember the penalty we got at stoke last season

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #27

    passback is an indirect free kick…never a panalty

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #28

    TS are you Jim beglin

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #29

    who’s jim beglin?

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #30

    oh, must be remembering incorrectly.. think we scored from it, the one im remembering about 10 years ago

    you can have an indirect free kick in the box ay

    do you think we’ll buy our players at the end of the transfer window or at the beginning, beginning is only 2 weeks away.

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #31

    don’t u know Jim Beglin? Big star man, totally awesome dude

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #32

    TS a former player, who pronounces it like you spelt it.

    OBA

    Yes Against WBA if i remember correctly

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #33

    indian

    ah right…never even realised i had made a mistake with penalty haha.

    How did you find the test today?

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #34

    i was kiddin mate, never heard of jim beglin

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  • obatoyou

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #35

    indian made him up

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  • RonVanDam

    Dec 14, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #36

    jim beglin is a irish LB who played for Liverpool during their golden years in the 80s

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  • JAMSHA

    Dec 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #37

    pardew thinks 2 players are enough wtf

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  • BrightonMag

    Dec 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #38

    TBH, most of our team haven’t played well this season, when Cabaye’s not been injured he wasn’t looking anywhere near his best. Ba is selfish, doesn’t pass to Cisse and is in effect holding Pardew to ransom over the Central striker position, unless AP can find a way for both players to play together and both be happy then I’m not sure the partnership will work. Jonas has been woeful at times this season. I think we’ve been quite lucky that Bigi has stepped up to the plate incredibly well for a young guy when needed, Marveaux has also looked good from what I’ve seen of him.

    Still, gotta bear in mind that AP hasn’t been able to play the same team in consecutive matches once this season, the team can’t gel properly. You can play the blame game all you like, we’ll see how January goes, I just hope MA splashes some of his new found wealth from Sports Direct and ivests in the future of this team. I’m still confident that once we have a full team available again we’ll pull ourselves away from the relegation zone.

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Dec 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #39

    Jim Beglin is the annoying kernt with the irish accent that does the commentary for Itv..

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 14, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #40

    I thought against Fulham Jonas looked better, but he has been struggling all season. I saw a bit more from him at Fulham though.

    Against man city, if we keep their fullbacks in there own half, they have no width. There only option then will be to play through the middle with silva and nasri, and I’m sure Anita and tiote can keep them under control.
    If the gods are on our side tommorow, then we can win.

    My formation would be:
    41311
    Santon perch colo Jonas
    Tiote
    Ben arfa Anita fergie/sammy
    Ba
    Cisse

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