After Sixth Loss In Seven Games – Big QPR Game Coming Up


Newcastle started the game well and were on the front foot until Manchester City cut our defense to ribbons after 10 minutes, and Sergio Aguero scored, and then Javi Garcia got a goal when he headed in from a corner after 39 minutes, and although Demba Ba got one back after 51 minutes – his 11th Premier league goal of the season, another soft goal from Yaya Toure did us in today at St. James’ Park.

vurnon anita - with funny look

Vurnon Anita – had great game today for Newcastle

And Alan Pardew gave a good display after the game of a manager who didn’t seem too worried after our sixth loss in the last seven league games:

“I look at us and I have been in runs with other teams and I have played in some teams as well where you don’t feel you can score, and that’s a real worry, when you don’t think you have got a goal in the team.”

“But you have to say over the last three or four games, you can’t say that about us. We look like we have got goals.” “We are just missing a bit of concentration, a little bit of resilience.” “At 2-1, we were really, really in a game there with a team who you couldn’t say had played poorly.”

“They were right at it, Manchester City, so there are a lot of positives for us.” “Unfortunately, it’s zero points and that’s putting us under pressure now going into QPR, which we know here is a big game now.”

Alan’s right, because at 2-1 Papiss Cisse missed a great chance to score, and just like at Fulham last Monday night it looked like Newcastle could win the game, but then a soft goal did us in again, as Danny Simpson was badly at fault for City’s third goal – and his mind seemed elsewhere today.

But the lads fought back,  and if we can keep the fighting spirit we can still climb that league – but we are dropping an awful lots of points and that’s worrying – and we have only 4 points from the last eight league games, and wins is what we now need – in abundance.

We didn’t expect anything out of this game and we didn’t get anything out of the game – but the second half will give Newcastle fans some hope that we can beat QPR next Saturday.

And hopefully we’ll get a packed out stadium for that game, although QPR won for the first time in the league today, with a good 2-1 win over Fulham with Adel Taarabt getting a couple of second half goals.

We need a win next Saturday and we can expect to face a confident QPR side.

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92 comments so far

  • jimmysmith

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Simpson, Willo, Perch, Cisse as a winger – if we are playing a top team, we might just get away with one of them playing, but not two, three or god forbid all four.

    Cisse is a striker who needs to go head to head with Ba for the strikers role, the other three are worthy players but need to be down the pecking order.

    We need a top fullback, centre back and a genuine winger to address our lack of depth and more importantly balance.

    Great game, City were at times brilliant and we dug in and battled hard which was heartening. No one let us down although Santon’s defensive weaknesses were utterly exposed early doors and it needs mentioning that Willo more than held his own against world class opposition.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #2

    Who would have thought after las seasons achievement s that a seriously dire like QPR team would be the biggest game of our season to date, I personally blame Mike Ashley and his criminally nonchalant attitude toward our great football club and the the people that support it.

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #3

    Jimmy – I think perch deserves to be considered as a first team player, an that’s not just exaggeration.
    He is really composed on the ball, is not afraid to tackle or put his head in, and always looks to play it on the floor.
    But I agree, our weaknesses and lack of depth showed today. But I was more than happy with the performance today, best we’ve played all season IMO.

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  • Graeme

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Comment #4

    Sorry Ed, just dont agree that we got nothing out of this game.

    It was by far and away the best performance of the season, so far. With just a little more luck, we could have had a draw and it wouldn’t have been undeserved.

    If we can play like that, for the rest of the season, there will be absolutely NO concerns about a relegation battle. At times, we looked superb.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    Comment #5

    How on earth did the signing of Cisse the virgin deal and the emotional birth of my daughter cloud my judgement as to what a fat horrible self centred Cockney cnut Mashley really is.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    Comment #6

    Wizard
    Perchino had a good game today as did willo goid performance from the lads and a very harsh score line tbf
    Still can’t believe the stick demba is getting though its bordering on embarrassing
    The only player who i genuinely believed look out of place when we turned up the pressure was simmo, normally at least he’s defensivly sound but willo had to bail him time and time again today

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    Comment #7

    Jail, fair comment, Ash has been negligent. I find it hard as a Geordie and a fan not to take it personally.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Comment #8

    Graeme
    Like it 🙂

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  • toonking

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #9

    jimmy why is it people like yourself will put willo down as such a poor defender yet santon is thought of as a decent on when as one person pointed out on an earlier thread the reason pardew probably doesn’t drop jonas is he needs him to help santon yet on the right wing he plays HBA when fit who does not do much to help the RB at all.
    does this not prove santon is poor worse than simmo as a defender ?
    out of all defenders i personally think raylor was our best FB and ever since he has been dropped and now missing through injury our defence has plummeted
    and don’t say that the teams we played were rubbish because this year we have leaked goal against poor teams
    the defensive line up i would like next season would be
    raylor colo CB LB
    santon the way things are looking could be much better as a winger

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #10

    I have never, ever seriously put Willo down as a poor defender, not once. He gives a 100% and did very well today. I simply don’t think he is a regular part of our future going forward and I think that’s the consensus view.

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  • thai-mag

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Comment #11

    I wonder how much sh** we will have to be in before Pardew tries to change it, it’s just not working, I’m pleased I’m in Thailand now and dont have to to pay to watch that crap every week, I feel sorry for the supporters who fork out every week, RANT OVER

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  • t00ntime

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #12

    @thai-mag guess u didnt watch the game… AP changed things including formation (we played 4-3-3 cisse RW) and we were the better team for atleast the whole of the 2nd half. We deserved a draw and were really unlucky. Player wise AP has little choice an cant really change anything. Like i said earlier he cant put marv in or else our leftside will be exposed. Santon isnt a good enough defender yet (only 21 so it will come). When you see our team just pretend jonas is LB and santon is LM cause thats how it normally pans out.

    We will find out weather AP has learnt a lesson or not. If when hba is back he keeps 4-3-3 (or whatever) we know he has learnt something but if he goes back to 4-4-2 to make ba & cisse happy we will know he hasnt learnt shit. I personally wud do this until cabaye is back

    ————–krul————
    Simmo-willi-colo-santon
    ———tiote—jonas/perch
    ————–anita———–
    Hba——–ba———-cisse

    4-3-3 with anita linking play.
    Hba can keep swapping wings, depending on which side he gets more succes. When he is on the right, ba is on the left. When he is on the left cisse is on the right.
    Ba’s goals are the only thing giving us a chance, yes. But atm hba is our most important player, atleast until cabaye is back its important we get the best out of him, and base our team on what is best for him imo.
    If hba plays well our ST will get chances weather its from the left or right and weather its from ba or cisse

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  • jimmysmith

    Dec 15, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #13

    Conaldo, James Perch has undoubtedly come on leaps and bounds, but in my view is not yet a player who could hold down a first team spot in a legitimate top 6 side, but he seems a player of real character and commitment and I think there’s more to come from him. Good player for sure.

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  • woodsee

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #14

    Williamson is shite,slow cumbersome doesent read the game well,often aimlessly hoofs the ball up the line to no one,but hes picked simply because weve no one better
    I firmly blame pardew for that,douglas should of been done and dusted instead of this,wewere not active enough in the transfer market crap

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  • stuart no9

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #15

    lets be fair – that was our best showing this term. ok – not good enough but there were signs of a decent side trying to play football the correct way. Santon had a mare, but giving his performances this season, i think we should allow him the odd day off.
    A great start , but they tortured us down the right flank to go 2 up.woefull defending cost us again. i was more than happy with the 2nd half until the killer goal. i really thought we would get a 2nd but in the end we were beaten by shear class. that is something we will never have under ashley. my take on the game was like ,- a david and goliath affair., an FA cup tie where the 2nd division side ( us ) against the best team in england . we fought , we played well in parts, and should maybe got a draw , but man city, gave a perfect away performence, and really didnt look like losing .when they had to step it up they did . no complaints, however where does that leave us????? fighting relegation! we are simply not good enough.

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  • Graeme

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #16

    Tads, cheers – but just my honest opinion of the day.

    Yes, we made mistakes; yes, some players had some dodgy moments, but, all in all, we can walk away from that game with our heads held high. Shitty will go home, knowing they were given one hell of a battle in the second half!!

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  • t00ntime

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #17

    @woodsee douglas said no to the deal so that he cud become a dutch citizen, he became one late in the transfer window and then didnt want to leave twente (dont know why either) also since the window douglas hasnt talked about wanting to leave.
    Also is there any proof twente ever accepted our price? So twente might of said no. In either case you cant blame AP for that. And tbh pardews job isnt transfers, the reason keegan left is because he had no say in transfers. If you look at Ap’s interviews he says ” me and carr work out a list of players we want, we give it to ma and he sorts it out”

    So if you want to blame it on transfers MA and DL are the ones to complain at

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  • t00ntime

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Comment #18

    @stuart city stepped it up? When? Once nasri came off they had 2/3 attacks. I dont think they cud step it up in the 2nd half. No they didnt have to cause we cudnt score but they were worried until the 3-1. Defensivly we were a shambles today yes. That has to be fixed but we gave it a right good go and if we keep playing like that we wont be anywhere near the bottom 3 at the end of the season. Just need to sort set pieces out and defense.

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  • woodsee

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #19

    Toon time,when you sign an 8 yr deal,and your not gonna be in charge of transfers,you dont sign it,dont kid yourself, we need a manager who can stand up to fatboy slim and pardew aint it

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  • magpie rangers

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Comment #20

    In reply to the first comment, to blame perch for today’s result? Did you see the match, he had a good game, far better than Tiote did.

    In regards to willo and Simpson I’m not there biggest fans but they’ve been made the scape goats of this season, when the teams not play well it’s always a case of pick on some to hammer, I sit in the strawberry corner and today city broke with Aguero running down the left wing where Williamson stood upto him and pushed him out wide forcing him to go backwards and a move came to nothing, a section of the crowd then decided to abuse Williamson at great lengths for not diving in and hitting the player??? He would have looked great sat on his arse with Aguero running clear!! Scape goat for a poor season??

    And god knows what would have happened if simmo had been on the post for the 2nd goal and did what santon did, he’d of been hung from drawn and quartered by most of the fickle fans!! Scape goat!!

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  • Toon XI

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #21

    At the current form, I see only QPR match as a possible three points out of our next five matches. Pains me to say it but I think we’ll be bottom three in early January. We must take all points off QPR next week. If we don’t Pardew must go if simply to bring new blood in. Otherwise the stench will be irreversible and we’ll be fighting to stay out of bottom three for rest of season.

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    Comment #22

    ToonXI

    bottom 3, ugh say it isn’t so! 🙁

    But I agree, by our current form surely we’ll get 3 points vs QPR, but I’m a little worried about D.Cisse.

    We just chose the worst possible time to start clicking, with games @Fulham, vs $hitty and now vs Manu and Everton after the New Year.

    Luckily, it’s much smoother sailing after (supposedly) and we can start racking up some points with new signings I hope.

    Not optimistic about that last bit 🙂

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #23

    “I look at us and I have been in runs with other teams and I have played in some teams as well where you don’t feel you can score, and that’s a real worry, when you don’t think you have got a goal in the team.”

    do you what bugs the shit out of me with pardew and some of you guys that stick up for pardew ,,

    since the guy got here we have had a team that has goals in it, he went and made it stronger with BA,, then toped it off with cisse, so wee alll know there is goals in the team,,

    me and a few others have been saying for a long time now the team/squad is good, but we get called neggers,

    the problem we have is pardew, like today, why on earth did he not go with marv for that little extra attacking threat,

    why has it took 17 matches to figure out we have a goal threat in our team,, the only thing missing is the good balls into the box for them to have a chance of scoring

    for 2 whole years now, we have played a lot ov long balls, today showed me that it is pardew that has set the team up to do that, today players were looking for another player within 20yards to pass to, williamson and krul esp, free kicks were still being slung to willamson, but instead of trying to score from them there was an effort from him to try and get them back accros the box,

    im scratching my head right now and thinking what CH would do with this team,, he has taken norwich onto another level, that level that lots of you said couldnt be done with him,,

    this team we have is good, its the best we have had in a long time, the team was stenghthend in the summer, not in the area i would have liked, but i think anita would walk into nearly all the top team in our league right now, and that is playing in a poor team,

    i think both perch and jonas let the MF down today, and i carnt wait to see HBA AND CABAYE back in the team

    i do not understad the love affiare with jonas right now, and should have been the first player subbed today,,

    tiote not on a yellow perch on a yellow,, what was the thinking behind that sub ??

    bringing shola on only means one thing, long balls, i thought cisse did well today BA also , i think there a handfull, and just need a good supply line,,

    i still doubt pardew will make it for them 🙁

    qpr winning today,, i really do fear them coming next week, they have nothing to lose right now, so every game is a cup final for them, ,,

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #24

    Can anyone tell me what the atmosphere is like in the upper gallowgate, near the strawberry corner?
    And what’s the view like aswell?

    Getting seriously sick of the sh1te atmosphere where I sit, so I’m going to try to change seats for after Christmas.

    Not many options, but near the very back of the gallowgate is leading the way. It’s about all I can afford aswell.

    Anyone know anything?

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #25

    also,,

    we were very lucky in the first half,, they tried to walk the ball into the net, and could have had at least 4 goals

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #26

    Catchy – do you think we played well today? (Genuine question, just trying to see what you would count as a good performance)

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  • puretoon

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Comment #27

    Woodsy @19 .Hughton got the sack for lack of ambition and not standing up to Ashley-we were told that load of bollox as the reason after Hughtons sacking-what a load of tripe! We’re now wondering exactly why Hughton was sacked ( as we were then)as Pards is in the same mould, a yes man, couldn’t run a piss up and really brown noses it with Mashley and ‘Derek’.
    It was sheer luck with last season and Pards has been found out now

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  • Gateshead-Mag

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #28

    anita has been top class in the last 3-4 games iv seen him. excellent passing, vission and creativity. with no benny there though it seems like no-one is up to speed in terms of pass and move in the midfield.

    would love to see him start with marv, anita and benny (if back) as these 3 are of the same quality imo.

    some of the first time passing from anita today was just on another level to anything else we had

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  • jeff

    Dec 15, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #29

    how did marv play? i didnt watch the game after seeing the starting line-up

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #30

    conaldo

    there was 2 sides to our game today,

    1st the good players

    tiote ba cisse krul williamson anita colo

    2nd the poor ones

    jonas and perch i thought these 2 looked lost out there

    santon, but i think he is being let down by lack of help, that 2nd goal though was a shocker ,, but given he has been our player of the year so far,, i forgive him

    simpson, did just ok, , i think city looked really sharp on there right hand side with nasri today,, but his crossing was poor (simpsons)

    i think we took a step forward against a good team

    like i said above, marv should have been in the team and not perch or jonas,,

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM

    Comment #31

    jeff

    its hard to judge a player for 10 mins or so 🙁

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  • Gateshead-Mag

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #32

    jeff

    didnt come on till 80 mins ish. too late to make any real impact. always offering something different. should have been brought on early second half if not starting imo.

    i no we played well second half but jonas was completely inaffective apart from 1 good cross, to my memory. think marv deserves a decent shot me like. and why not its not asif you can use the old dont change a winning team. pards should be prepared to mix it up

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #33

    Thought we played well second half.

    Think it myt of had something to do with Nasri going of though.

    The game swung in our favour after he went off.

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  • Gateshead-Mag

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #34

    catchy

    i dont think perch played bad at all. cant remember him putting a foot wrong. did a decent job i thought kept things simple

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  • Marty-Toon

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    Comment #35

    262Ketsbaia9 // Dec 15, 2012 at 6:18

    Marveaux plays a bit like David Silva. There’s not much difference between the two. Marveaux is just more injury prone. Was shocked to see Marveaux misplace a pass today.

    What a ridiculous statement by Kets lmao
    Yes he does play a little bit like silva but not much difference???
    Just a bt more injury prone?
    First of all,Silva ran the midfield,he made our boys run around after the ball all day even though we played well at times.
    Marveau can’t get a start in our team although we all agree he should but he’s a mile off the standard of Silva
    He’s defo got the ability and with a run of games could shine but there’s really no discussion here

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #36

    There was a period in the first half were city looked like scoring every time they had the ball in our half.

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  • nufcusa

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #37

    Jeff did not deserve a response.

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #38

    Gateshead-Mag

    for me he offerd us nothing going forward,, the one or 2 that i remember him playing he over hit,

    i think (IMO) tiote was holding it all together, and it showed when he went of they where flooding forward, he did make a good interception late on , 3 v1 situation and for me thats the only thing i thought he did well,, many times today, tiote was getting stuck in, perch was no where 🙁

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  • Gateshead-Mag

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #39

    nufcusa

    fair point just re-read what he actually said there

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  • t00ntime

    Dec 15, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #40

    @woodsee u just totally skipped the fact that douglas decided he didnt want to leave so pardew had nothing to do with not getting him in.
    Also AP chooses who he wants he doesnt choose the prices. So thats the same with most teams/managers. The thing is AP Will never get the players he wants the most he will get the cheapest ones on the list (most likely). KK got no say in transfers (xisco was behind his back). AP gets minimal.

    If AP has doumbia(16mil),remy(10mil), long (2mil), akinfenwa(1mil) on his list and says “we really need a striker” most clubs would look into each of the players with the manager and figure out which would be the best option. At nufc (this is how it seems to go) AP gives the list then leaves, MA looks at the 2 cheapest and then buys the cheapest/most profitable player and TRIES to buy him for even less.

    Thats atleast how it seems, unless AP is the one manager who wants the cheapest player all the time (which isnt likely no manager wud want player because just he is cheaper)

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