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Alan Pardew – We Need One Big Result

9:47 am, Saturday, December 15th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 72 Comments

Seasons can be turned around by the smallest of factors, perhaps a bit of luck that gets us an unlikely goal, or one or two players giving inspiring performances in a black and white shirt, and it seems we need some of that to turn our season around, as it is quickly moving into a relegation fight, and that’s after we did so brilliantly last season in finishing in 5th place in the league table and qualifying for Europe for the first time in six seasons.

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Alan Pardew – tough game today

But European competition and the lack of players arriving in the summer to bolster the squad have now cost Newcastle dearly, with a number of our top players out injured, and the squad is hardly big enough to play the additional number of games we have to play in Europe this season.

And Alan Pardew seems wary of Manchester City – who beat us twice last season in winning the English Championship for the first time since way back in 1968 – and we were a much better side last season than we have been so far this season.

This is what Alan said about the opposition today:

“City were the best away team we played last season.” “When they were at home last year they were pretty awesome and we didn’t really get a foothold in that game.”

“What I do know is they will be pretty much focused on this game and therefore it probably makes it a shade more difficult.” “However, when you’re champions of the Premier League it’s a difficult game full stop.”

“We took nothing off them last year but I don’t think they are as strong as they were last year coming into this game.” “We are having a tough run, we don’t disguise that, but the work ethic is there.”

“One big result, which could happen this weekend, could change a lot of the picture and we could find ourselves in a good position in the league.”  “I am here to tell my team to win and we didn’t win against Fulham.”

“Thirty four crosses and seven shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory, but we made errors in that game and we have to stop it.”  “Consistency, injuries and lack of form in some players and we’ve lacked momentum which carried us through last year.”

“When you’re winning games it carries you through and you don’t have to think about it.”  “The workrate is there, that was there for all to see on Monday and in the last three games in particular it has been really high.” “So that’s a good base for us; there’s still a strong spirit in the group.”

The strong spirit in the group is what can help get us out of trouble and really, there’s no better time to show that spirit than today, and maybe get something out of the this game.

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72 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Gag Pardew

  • 2 archaeomag // Dec 15, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Arrhhh . . it be the curse of W@nga . .doomed we be .. doomed . .
    ?#Piratical smiley!

  • 3 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Bonjour messieurs.

  • 4 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 9:55 AM


  • 5 magpie6699 // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Knee chance.

  • 6 Dannyo // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    City was the only team to take 6 points off us last year.
    Payback time.

  • 7 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    So waht are the last news?

    Is Beny fit?

    Will Marv play?

    Anything about the line up?

  • 8 Dannyo // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    We’ll find out soon about Benny.
    Don’t think Marv will start. AP will go again with Jonas, but if Jonas doesn’t perform, i’m betting on him to be the first one to be subbed, aside injuries ofc.
    APs talked about him giving back in the media now. So 1-2 more starts, then i think someone else will start ahead of Jonas.

  • 9 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    What happen to Jonas is sad…

    He was splendid last season.

    Alos, i hope we will not play Cissé on the wings again, this is madness.

  • 10 colwell // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Pards doesn’t think City are as strong as last season coming into this game lmao.

    If their not as strong WTF are we, I’d much prefer to be in their situation Pards

    Our defense has been opened up easily by most teams this season we are NEVER going to get a clean sheet today, Willo and Colo VS Aguero and Tevez palm over face moment lol.

  • 11 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Good morning Toonies … Niafron totally agree about Cisse or Ba playing out wide the clue is in their position CENTER FORWARD !

  • 12 Dannyo // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Hopefully Cisse will be benched and Marveux will start.
    Think we’ll offer more forward that way.

  • 13 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM


    What’s everyones thoughts about whether Benny should play. How much does he improve our realistic chances of getting anything from the game? Is that chance worth risking him? One tough game without him is better than a few imo, but I suppose it depends on how serious the injury was and whether this is just mind games. If there is a problem he shouldn’t play, at best come on as a sub if we’re still in the game to try and tilt the game in our favour.

  • 14 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    It was some threads here about Rémy, so sure, i got to say a word about it.

    I once said how i rate Rémy. A good player. Unfortunatly, since sixth month, he’s in the middle of nowhere.

    To watch him play recently was to watch the shadow of the player he was.

    This is due to some problems in his personal life, which could be solved in time, but right now, i would not bet on him.

    Sure, on the plus side, he’s less expansive now.

    I also read the club thought to exchange Marv for him.

    Well, considering the fact Marv is (in my personal opinion) exactlty the kind of player we need, i almost fell of my sit when i read that.

  • 15 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    I dont know why Pards can’t start both Jonas and Marveaux drop 1 of the strikers

    assuming HBA does not satrt

  • 16 jimmysmith // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    We are the Toon , this is St James’ Park, time to lay down a marker – attack! attack! attack! attack! – All duck or no dinner, you hear me Pards, godamnitalll!!!

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Pardew has to let tiote tackle how he wants. If he could play well and not be rash then that’s ok but take away those tackles and he is a nothing player.

    Id rather he missed 2-3 games from collecting yellows than put in 38 bad performances in the league.

    Perch and Anita can easily cover the odd game he is unavailable for

  • 18 proudtobageordie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    morning gents
    if pards plays willo we are in for a hiding. give someone else a chance as he is the worst defender at the club. he can’t play ba and cisse. ba no contract so drop him and let papiss run the line. if benny dosn’t start don’t know where the flair is going to come from. not looking good for us i’m affraid. lets fight for the cause HWTL

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    My view on Ba.

    Play him centrally and bench cisse or put Ba left.

    If he is still here after jan drop him until he signs a new deal.

    It’s our own fault we are in this mess, we have him the contract but we need to take a stance after jan. he can’t move til the summer so he can either take what we offer or spend 5 months training and sitting on the bench.

  • 20 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Who is fit and available?

    I imagine the back line is all but sorted.


    The ? is for Willo or Perch. Both offer something a little different, both make me somewhat nervous at CB.

    Then assuming we want one ST and not a 4-4-2, either Ba or Cisse to start up top.

    So, a 5 man midfield, which ever way you prefer to set that up (4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or whatever), who do we have?


    Not sure on:


    Definitely Out:


    If Benny is out, for me this is a game to put Ba back out wide for, not Cisse (at he doesn’t offer anything there really, whereas Ba does, even though he is a ST).

    I’d like to see this then.


    Anita dropping back and pushing forward as needed.

    What does everyone else think?

  • 21 Joe Blog // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    If Benny is fit:


  • 22 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:35 AM


    Sounds perfect to me.

    City’s line up

    Zabaleta, toure, nastasic, clichy
    Milner, toure, silva, kolarov
    Tevez aguero

  • 23 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    According to Philippe Auclair (yesterday evening), Bény will “without a doubt” not play due ” to a mysterious thigh injury”.

  • 24 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Didn’t really make my point there about Ba. Who would be better in that position that is available?

    Ideally I’d have Arfa – Anita – Marv behind either Ba or Cisse, but with Benny out, I feel Ba will offer more than any of the other available players.

  • 25 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    For me, this Ba as a striker and Cissé on the Bench. Anyway, none of them on a wing.

  • 26 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Simpson Coloccini Perch Santon
    Tiote Anita
    Benny/Obertan Ba Marveaux

    I can’t understand why Pardew can’t see what everyone else can. GUTIERREZ IS S*IT!!!!!!!!

  • 27 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Also, Pardews comments recently about getting in “one or two players” in January. I wouldn’t read too much in to that. If selling clubs know we need a lot of players, we’re there for the taking. This is already an issue, but the more our own club shout about the need for players, the more difficult it will be.

    Of course, it may just be true and they are only looking at one or two coming in, but the idea is plausible…I think…

  • 28 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Would paly like this:


  • 29 proudtobageordie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    spot on with selection and play perchinio instead of the donkey. his heading ability won’t be needed as much today with tevez and aguero up top for city. perchy has more pace than willo. hope benny fit and play him instead of marv. apart from tht it is a pretty strong starting eleven

  • 30 niafron // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Got to go lads, see you later.

    Bon match messieurs.

  • 31 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Niafron…Normally I’d tend to agree, but who to play there today?

    Magpies…Isn’t Obertan out as well?

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM


    I don’t even think the reason for saying one or two is that complicated.

    Other teams can see we really need new players anyway.

    I think it was just a general statement he said to not put an exact number on incoming players as he isn’t sure exactly how many deals will be done himself.

  • 33 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    proudto be a geordie/ IBIZA

    If willo does not play our attacking set plays may also improve.

  • 34 jimmysmith // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    I’d play

    Anita Jonas


    Cisse Ba

    Diamond with Marv at the tip, Cisse down the middle, with Ba switching flanks and Perch in for Willo against those terrifying, little rotten bastard city strikers

  • 35 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    proud…..If Benny is fit, i’d have both him and marv start today and see what they can do. Bench one of Cisse or Ba.

    All depends on Benny though!

  • 36 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Transfer sage

    Is there a possibility that no one may come in.

    I also reckon Simpson will not be here come Feb

  • 37 Lee Dodd // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    I think we need to drop williamson and put Perch in there . Were Gonna Get Sod all from This Game so Keep H.B.A on The Bench. Put Tiote and Bigirimana in the Middle …. Put Ba & Cisse on the Bench Then Shola Up Front on his Own. Drop Simpson . Santon On The Right and Jonas on The Left. That way we dont get battered to badly today !!!

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:46 AM


    Will dhoni get his ton?

  • 39 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Hope not

  • 40 Lee Dodd // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Right Just Leaving For StJames Park. Lets Pray we get a Result Today Lads !!!!

  • 41 proudtobageordie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    i personally think ba offers more on the left as an attacking 3. even if he dosn’t like it tough its a team game and untill pardew realizes this we will struggle. look at what ba done out there last season he was awsome?

  • 42 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Jimmy….Do you feel the Ba & Cisse partnership still has some life in it?

    Indian/Proud…..Agree on the attacking free kicks. Yes he’s tall, but we’d be better with a midget who can head at goal. Man Citys attackers are small, but they still have some big players for their own free kicks / corners and Willo’s height would be useful at those times…in theory. As I said, both offer something but not the full package, so I wont lose any sleep over which one starts.

    TS…..Also very true. He may well be planning to bring in 3, 4 or 5 players, but that doesn’t mean he’ll get them so doesn’t want to say he is trying to. He’s kind of in a no win situation with regards to talking about transfers. Hopefully they pull off a good window.

  • 43 spitfire_ // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    “Thirty four crosses and seven shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory

    So how exactly the number of crosses means that we should be close to win the game? Especially without even one player who can cross… This Pardew start talking nonsense just like Wenger.

  • 44 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:51 AM


    There is a chance yes, but a small one.

    From what I have heard Ashley fears relegation. He won’t spend 40/50 mil to push for champs league but we should see 10-15 mil to make sure we survive comfortably.

    He knows with next year being a World Cup year none of our players would stay if we went down and we don’t have that core of English players as before who would bring us back up.

    I expect 2-4 players to arrive in jan. none of them young kids either, all have good level of experience to hopefully make an instant impact

  • 45 Marty-Toon // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Sorry lads but i can see us gettin smacked around the place today…..could be very embarrassing score line.
    Sorry to be the negger
    I really hope we get some luck and we work hard and have good movement.
    That our boys create chances and score,would love at least a point but that us toon fans,always believing that somethin will happen for us.
    Can’t see it today but still hoping
    Howay the lads

  • 46 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Spit fire

    Does pardew know how many of those 34 crosses were put in by Simmo, never were they threatning.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Why do you hope not Indian?

  • 48 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Proud…Exactly. I thought Ba played well there and was unlucky not to score a few goals. I do also understand his want to play as a CF, but some games wont kill him and we’re lacking options if Benny isn’t playing. Under normal circumstances, there should be a winger there, but for now, we need him to play where he is asked, is it fair? Matter of opinion. Is it needed? I reckon.

    Lee….Hope you enjoy the game, but start Shola alone? Have you started drinking already? 🙂 I get it, rest up our important players as you don’t expect anything. Go strong and defensive and hope for a draw or low loss? Come on, let’s go for it instead.

  • 49 jimmysmith // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    No, I think Pards needs to grow a pair and insist Ba provide the width. I’d give him the freedom to play along the line but primarily using the width and have Marv in the hole behind Cisse.

  • 50 proudtobageordie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Shola is only good for 2 games a season. The origonal MACKAM SLAYER

  • 51 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:56 AM


    For Me he is apoor captain and if he gets a ton we will never hear the end of him.

    He plays so much politics, always picks players from Chennai super kings

  • 52 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Marty….I think most are with you on that one. I just want to see the lads give it a go, they are a better team and we’re not playing well, so expectations of the final score are low, but not in the fight. That is the minimum I want to see.

  • 53 Mint // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Once Tiote goes in January, MA will start spending on midfield. He doesn’t trust stikers so wont care if ba goes

  • 54 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM


    Is shikhar dhawan anywhere near the test side? Or even the ODI or T20.

  • 55 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:59 AM


    No, there are others ahead in the pecking order. He went to West Indies last year didn’t do that well

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Although i agree he played well on the left and you 2 obviously do, alot of fans trashed him last season when he played left the amount of fans saying flog him he’s useless hasn’t scored since feb etc etc was staggering
    I think the club playing him left and criticism recieved whilst playing there combined with the fact he was starting to get benched in internationals has bought on this “selfish streak” of him wanting to play centrally instead of watching his reputation as top CF dwindle away and start losing international caps simply because we can’t set the team up

  • 57 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Why does BA want to play centrally?

    He knows only goals can get him his Big MONEY move. Simple!

    can’t score that many from left or right

  • 58 proudtobageordie // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM


  • 59 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Jimmy smith

    Definitely agree there. Pardew is his boss, end of.

    Do as you told or don’t play. If Ba acted like this in the 80/90s a few players would have ‘ had a word with him’ in training and that would be that.

    Not saying I condone that but he doesn’t realise how easy he has it there.

    The only interest in him was turkey last summer (no prem clubs wanted him for that money or he would have gone). I think he would rather play left wont for Newcastle than centre forward for a Turkish side and have to endure all the racist abuse that goes on in that part of the world.

    I say call his bluff and let him see if he gets a better offer.

  • 60 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:04 AM


    Yeh I saw that in West Indies but saw he has had a decent season for Delhi.

    And 99 and ran out…. Terrible play.

  • 61 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Jimmy…Sorry. missed the bit about Ba switching flanks, just read it as them two up top with Marv behind them. My bad.

  • 62 jimmysmith // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    That surely is the problem in a nutshell, we can’t set up the team with the players we have, no matter how hard we try. We have quality, but lack both depth and most of all balance.

  • 63 Indian Magpie // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:07 AM


    He brought it upon himself should have got it earlier.

    In the current regime i can’t see him coming into the test team. his T20 side Deccan chargers were poor. not soon at least.

  • 64 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    tads…Absolutely. Touched on that the other day. He went from hero to zero and mainly because he went to the left. I can certainly see and understand why he wouldn’t want to, nor do I think he should every game, but sometimes it’s needed and he should be co-operative with that.

  • 65 spitfire_ // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Indian Magpie

    Obviously not… I count five Simpson’s crosses for about 5 minutes around 50th minute of the game but 3 was blocked and 2 goes to Hangeland… before that 40 yards diagonal TRY to cross… poor poor poor.

  • 66 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Jimmy….For me, that is one of the biggest factors. There are other areas, but we’re looking to play our best ST on the LW or as a supporting attacker as we lack options. That is a valid problem.

  • 67 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:11 AM


    He was the top Indian run scorer In ipl though last season so thought that might get him a T20 call up.

  • 68 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Maybe the players aren’t doing that because they agree he should be up front none of know what goes on behind closed doors
    For me were all abit tunnel visioned on ba and i dont know why? Because he was a free? Because he didnt want the number 9?

    When cisse signed the club not only not only put ba wide and asked him to do a job there, they then asked him to act as a translator after the game for the lad, stand there and answer cisse’s questions about his great form why he cant stop scoring and at the same time answer questions about why his goals had dried up was he worried about form etc. and then this season they ask cisse to do a job rw for maybe 4-5 games? And we consitute that on ba being selfiish? Im sorry but for me thats a very fickle view

  • 69 stuart no9 // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    transfer @44 if ash fears relegation he needs to get rid of his manager first and foremost.
    marty-toon @45orry lads but i can see us gettin smacked around the place today…..could be very embarrassing score line.
    Sorry to be the negger. its called being realistic mate – not being a negger. no need to apologise for being realistic !

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM


    Ba is a selfish football…nothing will tell me otherwise.

    Played for hoffenheim, refused to join up with his squad after the winter break as he wanted a move to the prem league. This got him his move to west ham.

    Got to west ham, had a release clause in his contract in case things went wrong. They did so got his move.

    Joined us, got another release clause (remember we looked like a bottom half team to the media that year) so he wanted an option for a better team coming in for him.

    He had a good year with us, we got European football and he still won’t sign a new contract without that clause.

    That’s fine with me, well within his right to do it as a player naturally wants to play for the biggest team possible and get money and trophies if possible.

    Ba might want a central role, doesn’t annoy me that he does, that’s his position after all and he is good at it.

    Ba annoys me a bit for this but two things annoy me more.

    1. Pardew. Pick what’s best for the team. Either drop one of Ba or cisse or play Ba left. Ba can play left whereas cisse is useless anywhere but alone up front.

    2. The club. Tell him to accept te deal on offer or he will be replaced. If Ashley had bought the striker we needed we would have a much more leverage to negotiate with Ba as we wouldn’t need him as much.

    I think Ba is off in jan. disnt get a summer move as his goals dried up out left. Now he is central and getting goals he might get more interest than just Turkish and Russian sides so I imagine he will leave.

  • 71 jimmysmith // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    TADS that is a very persuasive take on the Ba Cisse issue, even so, of the two, Ba is way more capable playing wide and it looks like that’s the only way we can effectively set up the team. But yeah, as you say it’s easy to see how Ba might have his nose out of joint, but it can’t be helped, it seems to me.

  • 72 Transfer Sage // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM


    I don’t think pardew will take us down.

    If we get the players pardew wants then he has no excuse to not get results. We will see what happens in jan but I think Ashley will open his wallet and help pardew.

    I’m reserving final judgement til the end of the season but so far I am disappointed. Not just the league position but the lack of change. How many times must we bang on with the same few things, players (injuries not helping) but formation and set plays etc. before realising it isn’t working.

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