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No More Contract Offers To Demba Ba – Period

10:58 am, Tuesday, December 18th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 442 Comments

It seems Newcastle have made their last and final offer to Demba Ba, and as January approaches we can only hold our breath that no club comes in and meets the £7M release clause, but it now seems completely out of Newcastle’s hands.

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Demba Ba – no more offers from Newcastle

We had hoped that Newcastle would make one last final improved offer in an attempt to get the striker to sign a long term contract, especially with the team perilously positioned in the league table at the moment, and things could get even worse after our next four games at home to QPR, away at Old Trafford and the Emirates and at home to Everton.

How the mighty have fallen.

The last offer Newcastle put on the table put Ba on a par with the money Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini is getting on Tyneside – and the Senegal man can take it or leave it – and it seems he will leave it.

And the speculation is that he could well leave next month if a club meets the £7M release clause in his contract, and one thing seems certain – we are going to have another circus in January just like we had in June and July.

But there have been recent reports that with the agents fees and extras included, the total deal could cost the club twice the release clause amount, and you add to that the high wage demands of Ba’s agents, and it could be an expensive deal for any club wanting to take Ba from Newcastle.

The news coming out of St. James’ Park is that both Derek Llambias and Alan Pardew remain fairly confident that Ba will still be on Newcastle’s books come February, but that hasn’t stopped them from being in advanced talks with Marseilles about signing Loic Remy.

But the move for Remy may be completely independent of Demba Ba’s situation, since we have only three experienced strikers at the club, and Shola Ameobi may be playing for Nigeria in the African Cup Of nations.

But Ba’s unwillingness to sign a new deal will see him become a free agent in 18 months, if he doesn’t leave us before that time.

It’s hardly a good situation Newcastle are in right now with their top goals-scorer – and it doesn’t seem like Ba has much loyalty either.

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442 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Ba should have passed more rather than taking shots against city. not 1ce did he come close

  • 2 shearermania // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    come on for gods sake,,,cut the man some slack…
    he took us to fifth last season and now hes rubbish…soo fickle..
    true players like simmo, willo, raylor probably played out of their skins last season and cant produce it again..top that with dip in form off tiote, jonas, collo …injuries to cabaye, taylor we would always have a struggle on our hands….
    we didnt strenghten in january, we got cocky…thats all! b the football has been appalling but its getting better, i can see us having a good second half….
    but come on last season pardew was the messiah now hes the villain….try to lay some blame on the players – they are the ones who arent producing…you can put cisse, ba right, left or centre but if theres no supply theres no end product..the board made big mistakes thinking they could walk it but i believe in pardew…i believe in stability – hes just a victim of his own success last season.

  • 3 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    The dominoes have started to fall.

  • 4 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Indian…He must have come close at least once or he has scored one of the most bizarre goals in history.

    Ed…Why does it seem we’ve made our last offer? Think I may have missed something or is it a case of it seems over?

  • 5 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Shearermania

    You protect Pardew like he done nothing wrong and ask us to aim abuse at the players?

    How can you sit there and absolve Pardew of all blame when he is an equal part of our downfall?

  • 6 boater // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Desperately hope Ba stays – he’s been consistently scoring in an pretty abject team this season. But if you’re losing every week it’s just a matter of time before the big cheeses want a move to a bigger bread bap.

  • 7 Indian Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Ibiza

    All i am talking about the log range shooting against City

  • 8 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    I he goes he goes.

    He seems the type to be a journey man, not a one club man. Get as many goals out of him while we can.

    If he leaves I won’t be too disappointed as long as he is replaced. A big ask for Ashley as he cannot leave us with just 1 striker and shola.

    I expect a few deals in January so hopefully we will do well.

    Now is the best time for Ba to move from his own view point, has a release clause, available cheap which is rare for a good goalscorer in January and he has scored a lot this season so might manage to get that extra 20/30k he seems to be chasing.

    Fair play if he goes, we have a wage structure I am happy with (as do spurs which is one reason they lose their top players) but unlike us spurs reinvest that money plus a little extra.

    Ashley need to back the manager with money, not silly amounts but a fair amount

  • 9 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    There is no way on earth that Newcastle should state they need 3-4 players. Announcing publicly how many players are needed would have an adverse impact on the dressing room morale and increase the relegation jitters.
    I still think there will be several purchases – at least three with the potential of a higher quality surprise purchase.

  • 10 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8340863/Manchester-City-support-move-to-get-supporters-back-on-terraces

  • 11 Lee Dodd // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Demba is Playing The Carroll Game here. Either Pay me or I am off . Carroll Got the Helicopter Ride Straight to Liverpool. Ba will Get The Same to London if he doesnt shut up. We took Him When Stoke Wouldn’t. He gets the fans on his side then says Arsenal are better etc well go There Demba Let them pay for your Knee Operations in the Years to come as that is what will happen with you. Lets Get Remmy and Carroll and Debouchey. and with The Europa and The FA cup.. We Are NEWCASTLE UNITED !!!!!!

  • 12 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Mister…That’s my thinking or hope.

    Indian…I see. If we’re talking long distance shots, then yes, complete waste of time.

  • 13 Novocastrian66 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    I’m seriously worried about Saturday. I’ve seen QPR a few times this season and they have looked quite useful. Our back four worry me and I mean the back four as a unit not just one or two individuals. They aren’t a cohesive unit and they’re all making mistakes.
    I’m not bothered how we play as long as we win.

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    If it’s true that Pards went to PR media training then he want’s his money back,he won me over last year not with his personality or style of play but the ability to grind out results but with every passing press conference or interview some of his comments boil my fu££ing pi$$,he just sounds like a lying snivelling cnut underdirect control of his puppet masters.

  • 15 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Mister Tuff

    On the contrary. If Pardew came out and said ‘we need more cover and more quality because some areas of the team lack competition. We will have the investment and we will be looking at signing 3 or 4 big players to come in and put pressure on those players guaranteed a start. There is no way Ashley will let us be relegated again.’

    Then surely that would give some a kick up the arse and the fans a little confidence to turn up on Saturday and cheer on the team.

    for me its one gaff after another as you kick the shit out of fans confidence.

  • 16 WWYCD // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Gutted to lose him but if he wants out he wants out. Don’t know where he’ll go but good luck to him.

    We need investment, Pardew needs backing, the players need to be shown we are willing to improve and the fans need some good will…putting a lot of hope into a window which we have been told we don’t do business in christ its going to be a long season

  • 17 TorqToon // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    This could be the time to step away from the blog for today. Not sure what people get out of bashing Pards all the time. But each to their own. Just glad the supporters at SJP are always vocal and behind the lads ! Lets hope the club don’t read this blog as some of the doom mongerring is crazy ! We are Newcastle United – not man Utd / Chelsea or Citeh !! Everything takes time and those who bash Pards now – we very quiet last season! Don’t forget it was until the last 7 games we really pushed on for Europe ! There’s plenty of time to turn things around and as long as Pards gets the financial backing he needs – I 100% believe we will do just that!

  • 18 shearermania // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    beattie 25
    of course you can blame pardew too…he hasnt done brilliantly either but to want him sacked its a downward step in my book….he steadied the ship, gave us a winning formula which has been challenged this year yes but we were all happy to finish 10th last year and came up only a whisker away from the promised land….
    all im saying is give credit where its due and try to be loyal when the ship gets a bit rocky…i have faith he will steer us on the right path again..

  • 19 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    We learn from history that we do not learn from history.

  • 20 Hatem's better than Messi // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    There’s only one Chris Hughton.

    Puppet out.

  • 21 Alan Pardew // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Tbh I think Ba has been upsetting the dressing room for a while now, his nose got put out of joint last season, and he doesn’t like it again this season.
    There is no communication with Cisse on the pitch and yet Cisse is capable of getting more goals than Ba.
    Ba thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere?? let him go let his weak knees be the responsibility of another club, I’m not saying Ba hasn’t been a good player for us far from it he’s been massive at times but like ALL players he’s not bigger than the club move him on and bring in Loic Remy, Dubuchy and Moussa Sissoko

    HWTL

  • 22 miggy // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    a hope no one comes in for ba this window cos of his wage demands and then to turn our final offer down will make it easier for pardew to play him on the left n play cisse thru the middle no one wants u demba so u stuck with us so u play where ur told just a thought

  • 23 shearermania // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    what i like most about pardew….he cares..you can tell and dont give me this “hes lying, hes a puppet, hes been instructed” the guy genuine cares and wants the best for us (the fans)..he got real passion and he can get the best out of the players (who can take a team consisting willo, perch, ameobi, simmo, obertan to fifth)…..still thinks hes the best that happened to our club in the ashley era…..and believe me he i had to be won over…..
    i had to eat humble pie last year and for that ill be forever behind him cause he was the manager who made me start dreaming again that we could win a trophy in my life time….

  • 24 nufc_eire // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Perfect window

    Ba (3m to QPR) for Remy (10m) = -7m
    Tiote (12m to Chelsea) for Sissoko (5m) = 7m
    Simpson (2m to anyone) for Debuchy (5m) = 3m
    A good CB = Rami (valencia are in big financial trouble so maybe 7m) or Douglas as the cheaper option.

    So we lose 3 but get 4 in. So for net 10m we get a quality first 11 and make sure we stay up. After the rotten xmas fixture list finishes we’ll prob be in a proper relegation battle so we need this kind of overhaul. Although that means they may not come……Anyway this leaves us with

    Krul
    Debuchy – Rami – Coloccini – Santon
    Anita – Sissoko – Cabaye
    Remy – Cisse – Ben Arfa

    And we can work on back up players in the summer!!

  • 25 spitfire_ // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Pardew first confess that they made a mistake last summer… then they will learn from it… which is nice but… How exactly you can convince me that they learning from past mistakes if you said that you will bring ONE player in when the team struggling but last summer you try to bring three players Debuchy, Douglas and De Jong? How’s goin this sh!t?

  • 26 Alan Pardew // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    miggy,
    why have him upsetting the dressing room any longer?

  • 27 wynsleap // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Beattie -Your right.
    History is, by its nature, consigned to the dustbin. Problem is we keep recycling it!

  • 28 Lee Dodd // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    By By Ba Ba Hope You Have Fun On The Bench at Arsenal .

  • 29 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Beattie @15.
    Trouble is -going public as you suggest -the players who are “wanting” currently know there are no alternative players to claim their first team places – so any threats would probably be viewed as hollow.
    It is one of those situations I would describe as 50/50 – your suggested method might work but if it did not the situation would be much more difficult to recover from. A manager who really knows the players would chose the correct method.

  • 30 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Shearermania

    I think that the whole of nufc is in crisis and it is unfair to blame one man, but I will always believe that we can do and should do better than Alan. I’ve felt that for a long time and doubt we can achieve anyting substantial under his stewardship.

    To sack him would be pointless as I don’t think Ashley would have the balls to go out and pay big money for a top manager and back that man to make this club great again. So sacking Pardew would be daft as we’d end up with another 2 faced gambling addict who only wants to be best mates with Fat Mike.

    There is a black hole within the NUFC swallowing everything in sight. The club cannot escape the pull of the even horizon and looking at the boardrooom, the management team, the first team (minus a few purples), the u21′s and the u18′s you can see that we are going to be swallowed up pretty soon unless the magnectic pull of the entire nufc supporters base can rip this club back from the jaws of infinite nothingness.

    To me though a lot of fans have thrown in the towel, others are being manipulated and cannot or will not see the truth, many are blindsided by their rage and anger and so point aimlessly at whatever problem they can think of.

    I though believe I have the answer. We need to turn up every week and support the team, shout thier names out at every opportunity and ensure we let them know we are behind them. But we need to take down this house of cards.

    If you start at the bottom the whole pile will fall, so you start at the very top. We must unite against Ashley and force this monster to sell at a loss. Take of the top card and the tower shall come down without falling.

    I’m talking graffiti on Sports direct signs in the ground, banners, flags, marches, blanket bans on buying NUFC merchandise, turning your backs on the chairman at half time, protests etc…

    It can be done, peacefully and with the right person spearheading it all we could be united again.

    (I am not that person but would follow them).

  • 31 beefman13 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Beattie, you absoloute tool.

  • 32 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Shearermania @23 – a very passionate post from the heart. Like you Percy Parsnip has me dreaming about the future (relegation battle).

  • 33 beefman13 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Beattie, Are you for real lad, you selfish selfish pathetic little man, marches, merchendise, banners, my god i thought JFA was a knacka.

  • 34 Krul to be Kind // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    NUFC Eire

    morning fellow countryman!

    I was just talking about Ramis to a few pals yesterday, quality player and off the radar can’t see it happening though but good call all the same!

  • 35 shearermania // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    yes beattie and then we will join the list of portsmouth and leeds….thats the worst effing sh!t i heeard for a long time….how old are you? jeez i dont even bother anymore….go give your head a shake

  • 36 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Mister Tuff

    Do you mean like at the end of last season when Pardew said he wanted Cabayes friend and an 8 goal a season CB.

    Would you give that as a reason as to why Simpson and Williamson are playing poorer than usual?

    I’m not for highlighting specifics, but the whole world knows what we need, and what we are desperate for.

    Pardew can keep quiet all he wants to but who is he kidding?

    People know what you want for Christmas and you can say ‘I only need socks’ but you cannot avoid the fact you need underpants, deodorants, hair gel and a one direction calendar too and every fcuker knows that.

    It’s pointless hoping that Pardew is manipulating the footballing universe into thinking we dont need more players.

    Can you really see for example Remy turning up on January 1st and then NUFC making a bid for Debuchy for £4 million and the chairman of Lille saying ‘zut a lor, hang on a minute, they said they only wanted 1 player. may wee, i’m so shocked that they bidded for Debuchy that I have to say yes.’

    Who the hell is he trying to convince and what is achievable by saying this one in none out?

    Better to say ‘some have 4 games to save their NUFC futures before the window opens’.

  • 37 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    BA has never struck me as being the loyal type.
    in interviews he never committed himself as to where he would love to play in future,ie he never committed himself to NUFC. Then you have his agents, who are more ruthless than wonga, we took him on when no one would touch him with the proverbial barge pole,now that he is confident again in his ability, and other clubs are more sure about him now, he could be off. this dosnt surprise me at all, as istill believe we are a stepping stone club for anyone with talent,or coming from another country wanting to try their luck in england ,nufc are the perfect shop window.

  • 38 Mumbai Mag // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Getting Remy will solve one problem. It wont be of any help to the more glaring problems at the back.

    We need a commanding figure at CB who cannot just defend but can also score with headers from set pieces.
    Our game right now is based on getting the ball to the wide men & putting in hopeful crosses. Most of the times theres barely 2 players in the box which makes it look even worse. Everything comes in from Santon & Guti. If Ben Arfa is not playing our right wing is as good as non-existent.

    We are poor on set pieces too. Dont score anywhere near as enough goals from corners. What we really need is a Kompany-type tall, strong CB who can actually score a few headers. Colo & Saylor atleast do their defensive bit well. Willo does neither.

    If we’re lucky enuf to get a couple of players through the door, I’d be delighted if it were Remy & Douglas.

    Then I wouldn’t care even if Ba left.

  • 39 shearermania // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    @mister tuff…
    i bet last sseason you had the picture of pardew hanging on your bedroom wall just above your bed lying there thinking of him being the most fantastic man in the world while enjoying an intimate moment with yourself every night……but i get it i have been a teenager once..we fall in love, then we move on…
    but some of us still remembers fat sam, souness and jfk and what we got at the moment is a hell of an upgrade compared to them!

  • 40 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Mock me all you want to.

    It’s not the first time I’ve been abused on here, nor will it be the last.

    We will never achieve anything without investment, that is the modern game and in any sport you play to win.

    Ashley, unless he invests, will never do anything but take from us. He is taking from us everyday and unfortunately he will continue to turn over profits off the backs of working men and their families until he either wakes up and out cash into the club or is removed from the seat as owner.

    You people are the types that would cross a picket line in the time of a strike so I shall neither court your replies or find interest in your words.

    One things for sure, you’ll always want to read what I have to say because I’m a realist and I speak sense whether you want to agree with it or not.

  • 41 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    The old Beattie is back and boy it’s good to be here

  • 42 hadthetshirt // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    If we lose Ba then let’s hope we have a plan A-B-C-+D.We don’t want another xmas Carrol saga.Why not go back for Kevin Gameiro who isn’t playing much at PSG due to Ibramimovich etc.He has a good scoring record and would play alongside Cisse.Also try to get Guidetti on loan.
    I hope Pardew stops playing square pegs in round holes and has the guts to play Marveaux instead of Perch,or Jonas.We need to create chances and not just through hoofing it up the field in hit and hope football.We also need defenders Debuchy,Peiters,or Douglas would be a good start.The noise he’s making though is 1 player to come in.Surely he has to get some cojones and press for cash.

  • 43 lloydie780 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    I was out on Saturday night in the toon. I am not from Newcastle but am a supporter. For my mates girlfriends birthday we went into Tup Tup night club and booked VIP in the private room. At about midnight alot of the players came into the VIP lounge. The following players were out drinking after losing to City- Sammy Ameobi, Danny Simpson (with his new celeb piece), Gabriel Obertan, James Tavernier, Abeid, Inman, Nile Ranger, Steven Taylor, Tim Krul and i spotted Shola briefly though he didn’t appear to be drinking and was there briefly. They was a large group of coloured footballers in the room from other clubs – Sheff Wednesday and Carlisle players etc we met. Considering they had just lost and the position we are in they behaved like a total bunch of w*****s. They let about 40 girls through the door into the VIP area just to for these footballers to feed on. Tim Krul grabbed numerous girls and groped them constantly. He was shocking. It almost appeared like they were doing a bit more than just kissing up on a wall. All players were pretty embarrassing. It is the second time i have met Sammy and what jumped up bloke he is, a footballer who will not make it and what an arrogant jumped up price, he is what 20, i am 22 and am on a bigger wage than this kid yet he acts like he is something else. The best out of the lot of them who was friendly was Obertan. What a good lad. I am just really dissapointed at the attitude of these guys. I always felt Taylor would be our captain but honestly he wont be. Not such a great role model. Ranger seemed well liked and was a pretty decent bloke. Rant over.

  • 44 shearermania // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    beattie i cant make out what the 25 after your name implies…25 years (surely not), 25 fathers (maybe), 25 brain cell (probably)

  • 45 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Ba has always been a mercenary. Some of you have no footballing knowledge what so ever.

    He went on strike at Hoffenhiem, refused to play, went awol, moved to West Ham and ditched them as soon as they were relegated, 6 months later. He has been flirting with teams since the last January transfer window and now we are all shocked that he might leave?

    The guy is a talented footballer but he doesnt support NUFC like we do, he will move if the right offer comes along, they all will.

    We are a stepping stone, not the pinnacle of football. Look what happened to the last NUFC fan to play for us.

    We are no longer an attractive club with aspirations for the future. We are a shop window and that shop window is sports direct dressed as a football team.

    We have the ingredients to do what Dortmund, Napoli, Athletico Madrid etc… have done and that is get among the big boys by buying quality at decent prices and then investing to keep ahead. But we have shown that the real interest our owner has is to reduce outgoings whilst maintaining healthy in-comings.

    He may be a gambler but he isn’t stupid. We all know investment doesn’t guarentee success and Ashley has decided not to risk it. That means we will have to sit through the horror of his ownership and all it’s endless frustrations. He doesnt care though as has a mansion, private jet, helicopter and billions to keep him happy whilst we fork out our incomes to watch his business model fail spectacularly.

  • 46 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    Beattie- Dissembler. The master of the fatuous, inane and banal constantly regurgitating garbage. At least Catchy is constant in his condemnation of Pardew. Your comment that you are alarmed at the lack of quality players throughout the club sets you aside from those( like Rotonda) who argue that we’ve got quality players that are not being used properly. Your canvessing pied piper approach will fail as it did when I first started posting in August. Loyalty is not a word in your vocabulary. Please spare us your juvenile quotes I prefer the idioms of Jesper.
    Jesper- Hope your not doing another cameo!!

  • 47 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Shearermania

    The 25 is the amount of times people have tries to outsmart me and it has failed.

    Looks like I will now have to change my name to beattie26.

    Thanks xxx

  • 48 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    beattie

    dont worry,, there are a few of us who can see right through pardwho, some of the fans just read a story from him and dont connect it with what they see on the pitch or transfers

    some believe the club is stable because there told its stable

    but like i say a few of us listen to the words that come out of his mouth,, its like a bad chinese movie, there just not in sync,,
    he has stop using it in recent weeks , but my fave quote he kept saying was,, we never really got our passing game going,, like we ever had one

    some fans only look back one game and blank out the rest as if it is not happening to us,

    like said earlier,, id love to bring in 5 players in jan, then we would see how poor a manager he is,, id love to hear his new excuses,,

  • 49 Krul to be Kind // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    WE WILL NOT GET RELEGATED STOP BEING SO EFFING PESSIMISTIC!!!

    Now I’ve got that of my chest does anyone recall Ba saying something similar regarding PSG when they were allegedly interested, he went as far as saying that some day he wants to play there because that was his boyhood club… Guess what, he didn’t leave!

    For the record lads, we re season 2 of a 5 year plan, sometimes you need to go back to go forward, we are still in transition, Rome wasn’t built in 2 seasons! How would we fare as a team if we demolish what we had last season and throw money at it to rebuild… QPR anyone?

    Keep the faith, sing to your hearts content be merry and dream, this team can beat anyone on there day, when the fans back the team eg. Saturday against city, when the fans got behind the team the effort was there to be seen, WE ARE AS IMPORTANT AS THE PLAYERS, if the players have adopted the same attitude as some fans on here they would be shot and we would go down!

    BELIEVE, bring on QPR, UTD, Arsenal et al, we shall not be kept down and will emerge as euro challengers again in the very near future, still all to play for this season!

    HWTL

  • 50 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    can i just say i worry that we are being linked with remmy, good player,
    BUT
    defenders should be first through the door,,

    i worry that we are only being linked with players that did not come in the summer, is this just lazy jurnolisim???

    p

  • 51 BandB // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Beefy

    You are a man of true faith. I doubt you ever blink.
    First, I don’t hate Ashley. He’s a complex and unpredictable character who has done very well at acquiring businesses that have become complacent, and could be made profitable by restoring some financial rigour. It’s what he saw in Newcastle, and it’s what he sees in Rangers. I always think that if you make an effort to understand what motivates a person, you can more accurately predict what he’ll do next. Ashley strikes me as being motivated more than most by an outsiders wish to prove himself the biggest b*****d in the pond. And that makes him inclined to throw the dice in the air when his honour is a stake…a bit like Julius Caesar.
    Would Newcastle have gone bust? It’s quite possible. But he took over without due diligence, and didn’t know the scale of the debt he was taking on. Hence his “saving” of the club owed more to clearing up his own first mistake, rather than good intentions. I DO think he had good footballing intentions when he came in. He’d have loved to stay a popular chairman swigging beer with the fans. But he made a lot of mistakes and ended up being threatened. At that point he put the club up for sale, and said he would never invest in it again. We don’t know where the money goes. But wages are low by Prem standards. Is the rest going in keeping the lights on at St James’s?
    I have been consistent since I began in saying that the decision not to invest in the summer would effect player motivation this season. I don’t think the PLAYERS believe they are part of a five year plan anymore, and a mood of desertion is in the air.
    Super-negger me stated a couple of days ago it would be two in and one out in January. I sounded like a right optimist now.
    I do love this club, and it’s fans. Even those who wear their hearts on their knuckles. I don’t want them to lose faith in the team. But I don’t trust the Pied Piper they are following, and won’t resort to blaming players or the manager, though Pardew is making himself hard to love.
    Ashley will sit on his cheaply acquired stock at Rangers. He’s third biggest shareholder now, and may acquire more. They will eventually return to where they belong. And in Scotland, Champions League Football with all it’s exposure, is a far more achievable prospect.
    I don’t know what he’ll do with us. I hope you won’t be disappointed. But maybe you are one of those fans now emerging to say how much you relish the prospect of wearing your hair shirt in the Championship.

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    I’m sick of hearing of the 5 year plan.

    Can anyone well me what it is? whats the goals? any idea how the club plan to achieve them? what are the consequences for failing to hit the targets set in the plan?

  • 53 seantoon // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Lloydie you got any jobs going lol?

  • 54 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    lloydie780

    i had the same type of experince when sir boby was manager

    i got invited out with a group of players, my lass, her best friend was seeing j mcclen,
    jamie was ok, snobby and his wife where really good she was stunning, they talked to us for most of the night, daniel cardoni basidas kept quiet didnt drink to,, bramble cort dyer where right nob heads,

    can i say for the record,, i hate obertan the footballer , i dont think he is one,, but every time i see him being interviewed , he seems a really inteligent good guy,, with his feet on the ground

  • 55 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Ian Toon

    You misguided fool.

    I am just offering an opinion on what I perceive to be the problem with our club.

    Rotunda is correct, we do not use the quality we have correctly, but if we did find a formula then what happens when that formula has to change? We have no depth and lack quality throughout.

    My observations are merely pointing out that the dictator at the top of the tree should be the first point of call to answer for our failings. We should see this is more than form, or what position we will finish, this is for the future of our club.

    Now unlike many on here, when I point a finger in blame I continue to then give an example of how we could then rectify this.

    What is so wrong with giving the opinion that forcing Ashley out wouldn’t be a bad thing? I expressed that a way to rid ourselves of the man would be to do as I said, but I wasn’t clamoring for it to happen and saying it to a few simple minded morons on a blog wouldn’t make much of a difference. I was merely giving you imbecilic primates the chance to digest an opinion.

    If I wanted to oust Ashley with the ferocity I implied then I would preach it from the tops of the tower not the doldrums of social media.

    I was making a suggestion of how to get shot of the tyrant and communicating that I would join a movement if one was to come around, but as I’ve said before (seen as you have an encyclopedic knowledge of my former posts) this will never happen as the terraces, blog and fans in generally are too divided.

    With that I would also like to say thanks for reading yet another beattie25 comment, your time has been welcomed and I hope you have a pleasent day.

    Please stay classy and hopefully one day you will awake with a new found intelligence that will no longer misinterpret everything I say.

    Bring back the old bloggers who would actually accept the angry views of one person and meet them with a polite opinion of their own.

    Ian, you sir are a cock.

  • 56 boater // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Catchy – I don’t think people ‘fall for Pardew’s spin in the way you seem to think. It’s more a question of timing and having a sensible alternative that you can justify implementing.

    We may yet recover and start to improve under Pardew – it’s possible, so therefore we have to give him that chance after what he has done so far for us. 5th place is still incredible based on the depth of this squad.

    You obviously hate him – as you do Obertan – which makes you less reliable as clear judge of the situation. If he is unable to turn things around he will be moved on – and you’ll get your wish, so exercise some calm and restraint.. and stop going on and on and on and on like a stuck record in vacuum of reason and perspective.

  • 57 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    catchy

    off topic i know but want a view

    what do people in norway (and surrounding countries if you get about) think of english national side and players?

    mainly is rooney held in high regard as a good player? or not?

    just wondering how he is constantly on european top players lists all the time

  • 58 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Krul
    Debuchy Douglas Coloccini Santon
    Cabaye Sissoko Anita
    Benny Cisse Remy

    Hoping that Debuchy, Douglas and Remy all sign, that’s our best team by end of January. Only one problem, Pardew won’t drop that d*ck Gutierrez!

  • 59 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    Transfer Sage

    the term 5 year plan was put in place when ashley took over,,
    he reached europe,, lmao

  • 60 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    Crap. Sissoko signs as well #IForgot2MentionThat

  • 61 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    What about Beattie’s post at @30, that has to be the biggest load of shit i have ever read on here.

    He has been consumed by his own Ego. RIP Beattie.

    PARDEW OUT.

  • 62 boater // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    TS – “I’m sick of hearing of the 5 year plan.

    Can anyone well me what it is? whats the goals? any idea how the club plan to achieve them? what are the consequences for failing to hit the targets set in the plan?”

    Doesn’t sound like your sick of hearing about it.

  • 63 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    krul @48 funny that – i remember 52,000 people saying we would never get relagated 3 years ago – or was that just a nightmare????

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    I’d not sack pardew. Sacking people isn’t always the best option, why not improve them.

    Hire one or two continental coaches or an assisstant managaer…that might give pardew fresh ideas and help take the team forward….then again it might not, just an idea.

    I think sacking the manager should never be ruled out but I think it should be the last option.

    Get in the players he wants (providing they will take us forward, ie not andy carroll) and then look at ways Pardew can be helped.

    If he refuses help or still doesn’t improve with it them look at sacking him.

  • 65 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Ok pards stop the waffle, lets see some action asap.

    If you want me to come in and sort the deals that your bosses are incapable of pulling off, give me a call.

    Here’s is the first one im gonna sort for you Chris Samba. Reasons
    Wants away from Anzhi, Knows the Premier League
    Is commanding in the air (might even get you the goals you wished for!)
    Is experienced and will organise.
    Not the long term solution so i will give him 2 year deal. Okey Dokey

  • 66 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Beattie—- your views are built on shifting sand!

  • 67 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Catchy

    you are correct yet are labeled insane by some.

    If we take away the lack of investment and see the squad for what it is, it is still better than 10 of the clubs in the leauge.

    Pardew has us playing the worst football and continues to spin everything away from his own ego in order to absolve himself of the fact he is a poor manager.

    1 5th placed finish doesnt make you god, continued lack of success makes you poor. So show me everyone, show me the success Pardew has had in his decade of football management?!

  • 68 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    boater

    let me rephrase that…i’m sick of hearing of the 5 year plan without actaully hearing about it. (sick of the term without any detail basically)

    I remeber when he first took over there was meant to be a 5 year plan to get us into champs league and challenge for the title…not sure if it was media rubbish or what but I heard of that one. Since promotion we have a new five year plan….but no idea what the details are.

  • 69 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    I don’t believe that Arsenal are interested in him.

    They played Walcott up front last nyt & they’ve got Giroud there too. Gervinho can play up front aswell & Podolski.

    They usually only play one up top. So why would they want another Striker ??

    Paper talk in my opinion…

  • 70 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    Check the toastie

    Of all the people I’d expect better off.

    Re read the post. I am not asking for people to do this merely stating that is how you could force Ashley out in my humble opinion.

    Check the toastie has been devoured by his own disdain towards Alan Pardew. RIP CHECK

    What a nice man he was

    PARDEW OUT!!!

  • 71 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    transfer @ 51 yeah – the 5 year plan was the length of time it would take for ash to rip the fans off and recoup the money invested. that is my thoughts anyway. if anyone has a more logical, practical , or sensible theory i would love to hear it!!!

  • 72 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    shearermania @38.
    Bit of a disappointing reply -I maybe would have anticipated a “football argument” but clearly this type of argument is beyond you. To reply with a sexual fantasy, which clearly exists in your head and not mine is very disturbing. You clearly are a vulgar fellow. I hope in your dellusions that you do not forget to regularly attend your local police station to sign the register otherwise you may end up in trouble. Society needs to know where the likes of you are living in order to protect our children.

  • 73 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    when looking for details of the five year plan i found this…..the last sentence makes me laugh

    “I am prepared to back large signings for millions of pounds but for a player who is young and has their career in front of them and not for established players at the other end of their careers. There is no other workable way forward for Newcastle. It is in this regard that Dennis and his team have done a first class job in scouting for talent to secure the future of the club.

    The plan is showing dividends with the signing of exceptional young talent such as Sebastien Bassong, Danny Guthrie and Xisco. ”

    source

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7615655.stm

  • 74 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Mister Tuff

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    Nice one, I’m warming to you.

  • 75 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Just gotta say, on Saturday night me and a few really wealthy mates ( as im really important by the way) had hired out a really expensive part of Livello down the quayside. As normal all the women were all over us as i earn a fortune and like to flash the cash, take note i am more successful than all you no marks on the blog.

    Anyway, whilst i was in Livello some of the young Toon players came in and they started getting all the attention, bunch of dickheads. There was only the good looking Obertan who was left alone (bit strange) so i bear no grudge towards him.

    Anyway bit disappointed that i didnt make it as a pro footballer as clearly that is the way to get the fanny. I am not jealous and riddled with Envy, honest, however the behaviour of some of these young lads was appalling, i mean trying to enjoy yourself, bellends.

  • 76 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Check- Someone else is posting!,,,,

  • 77 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    To all those who respect opinions goodbye for now.

    To all those arrogant monsters who think thier own thoughts are the only ones that matter, go fcuk yourselves.

  • 78 Spuggy // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    The bigger problem is attracting good players and holding on to our big names. We had our chance to attract 2-3 top quality signings and seal our place as a top 6 side, especially with Europa to contend with.

    Which top players will come now for small wages to join in a relagation dog fight, with Manu and arsenal to come before jan we may well enter Jan in the bottom 3.

    Qpr is such a massive game.

  • 79 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Ian – see post42.

    Mister Tuff – bit harsh that one, if Beattie is warming to you, its the first sign of going too far.

  • 80 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    check @74 hahaha do i detect a hint of sarcasm in your comments???????

  • 81 Rotonda heights // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Ian toon

    just because some people have a different opinion why are you so abusive towards them? If it was just Beattie fair enough, but there are many people and even Ba from the horses mouth and our highest scorer has said the players don’t enjoy the style.

    Do you seriously think a talented bunch of players want to hoof it. There’s only 1 man telling them to play that way and if it’s finally dawned on pardew that hoofball aint the way to go, he’s cut it very fine.

    As said below, not just me , beattie, catchy, ron van dam, stuart 9, cockney magpie etc etc

    Hatem’s better than Messi // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    Shut up Pardew.

    Sick of hearing him spout crap.
    Your teams rubbish and plays with no style.

    This has been a problem all season long.
    Lost 6/7 playing hoofball.
    Worst team in the league to watch

  • 82 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    beattie @36.
    There is a definite difference in announcing a teams shortcomings/requirements in the close season as opposed to raising these types of issues mid way through the season.

  • 83 nufcusa // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Ba is a top player but unlike when we sold Carroll we actually have a star striker still at the club.

    If they do, and its a big if, come through with either a contract for Ba or the purchase of Remy if Ba leaves then it will be tough to criticize.

    Either way we will still have the option of a world class pairing/single striker/forward 3 if you include Ben Arfa.

    Couple this with 2 new defenders and you have to give credit where it’s due. Fact.

    Like I said thought…. Big if.

  • 84 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Transfer Sage

    most of the guys i speak to love English football, i would say leeds manu and liverpool have the biggest fan base, then arsenal , then i recon us and spurs after that,,

    when you ask them which team they support, its never a norwegian team first,
    in big competitions , if norway is not there they want engalnd to do well as there second team,,

    rodney is loved lol stevie G is loved

    barca has a big following over here to

    i work in stavanger, and there is thousands from england there, from all over the country,, so match days are good :)

  • 85 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    spuggy – Exactly. How many managers have we heard say “If we can get European Football it will be easier to attract players” Really cos that didnt happen!!!!!

  • 86 G // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    Whilst you can’t argue with the facts that we have been playing long-ball a lot this season, and we are on a big losing streak, I still think people who want AP sacked are daft. I think stability is a key to a succesfull club, and I also look at the managerial appointments of MA/DL in the past and think it wouldn’t be unlike them to appoint somebody really dreadfull for the job (Joe Royle and Alan Ball, and lets not forget JFK still fancies a management job again!). Even though it’s contradictory, I still feel things could be a damn sight worse.

  • 87 Jail for Ashley // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    beefman,
    I try not to insult you but I continually keep seeing my name used in a derogatory manner in your posts,if I am indeed a knacka then you are an illiterate steroid filled anus.

  • 88 Toonfreak87 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    He’d be the ideal partner for cisse, think we can safely say Ba is on his way. He is making too much noise for my liking http://everythingnufc.co.uk

  • 89 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    Just goes to show what a great club we are with fantastic supporters, the game on saturday is going to be close to a sell out, considering the shit that has been served up over the last 18 months it is incredible really, Pardew and the Fat Man are truly blessed to be involved in this monumental institution.

    We will all still be here following this club when both of these fly by nights will be long gone. Thats the real shame behind the men who run the club. They are not one of us and thats why they get so much shit, nothing more than a pay packet and a business opportunity.

    Sad really, almost depressing.

  • 90 Rotonda heights // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Krul
    Debuchy Douglas Coloccini Santon
    Cabaye Sissoko Anita
    Benny Cisse Remy

    HELL YES !!!

  • 91 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    thanks catchy.

    on another note..would you be willing to give pardew time if he gets the defenders and whoever else in Jan?

    or has he reached the end of the line for you?

    I want pardew to get the players he wants coupled with a good coach to instill some passing/more technical moves into the team and just sharing ideas with pardew.

    I imagine pardew wants to leanr but he hasn’t worked with many technical/flair managers or coaches in the past so maybe hasn’t had the chance to learn how to implement the ideas he wants.

    ifs and buts…but just my thinking on it.

  • 92 Rotonda heights // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    G

    MA would have a job getting alan ball!

  • 93 beefman13 // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Apparently, i am the only one left for you to negotiate, well ive had enough of your filth to last the whole season not minding 18 games in, your like chewing an asprin, such a bitter small minded individual.

  • 94 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    G

    I say that success brings stabilty…stability does not necessarily bring success.

    I am not wanting pardew sacked, as I dont think we have reached that stage yet, but to rule it out at some point in the future is not right either I don’t think.

  • 95 BandB // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM

    Chewing aspirin is a very good way to avoid a heart attack.

  • 96 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM

    The performances on the pitch are below the quality of the squad, improving the squad still leaves you with the same problem of under performing.

    If everybody is happy with mediocre football and scraping through games then Bob Parsley is your man.

    If you would like our squad to reach their potential in terms of footballing performance a change will have to be made.

  • 97 ToonDownSouth // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Transfer Sage

    The problem is, can you ever envisage us bringing in some new coaches to mix things up?

    Pardew is the most senior ‘footbaling man’ at the club. No one above him knows anything about football, at all. Hence why, despite some peoples beliefs, Pardew will not get sacked. And for the same reason, nothing will change unless Pardew wants it to.

    Disappointinly, all Pardew has shown this season is thathe may well be the most stubborn man in the country.

    Those set pieces… the lofted balls in from any free kick anywhere on the pitch… Seriously, how can a man not see that it’s just a way to give the ball back to the opposition?

  • 98 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    check @78.
    perhaps my reply to shearermania was a bit harsh but he clearly is an unsavoury fellow who could do with a thrashing or at least have his ears boxed.

  • 99 GeordieDan // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    Not sure what to make of these “new” bits of transfer new today:

    If Pardew is saying 1 player only coming in then is that Remy only and no defenders? – That would surely be ridiculous to think that’s all we need

    If Marv or Gabby is going as part of the deal then do we not need 2 extra players minimum (or 3 if Ba is going as well) just to tread water?

    If we are only getting player and that’s a defender then what happens come January when Ameobi and Cheik are away?

    Its either all smoke and daggers or just utter bull5hit.

    We NEED 3 players minimum and thats not counting anyone leaving.

    If that doesn’t happen then in my usually optimistic point of view Ashley is deliberately trying NOT to let NUFC progress and is happy promoting his brand with a mid-table club. Very worrying.

  • 100 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    The only other person I know who advocated a 5-Year Plan was Josef Stalin. Not liked by everyone,

    Ba may be a journeyman but maybe the peculiar nature of his knee condition necessitates it. He may feasibly be looking at an even shorter career than most so he may have to maximise earnings, or he won’t be a multi-millionaire by the time he is 30. And that would be a shame.

  • 101 Rotonda heights // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    mister tuff

    I’m just imagining you saying that in a posh voice!!!

  • 102 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    TDS

    I find it staggering that pardew even admitted to poor set pieces in the press and said he would work on things then we still see the same ones.

    I do like him but he is making it difficult haha

  • 103 lloydie780 // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    Check – i could have been a footballer so not jealous plus i have a girl so really not jealous on that front either. Plus we were with a mixed group so weren’t ‘jealous’ just dissapointed that these players who we all look at in awe and dream of being like actually act the way they do and are pretty jumped up/iggnorant. Fair play i might be the same if i was in their shoes (hope not) but just thought i would share what i saw. sorry you have to be sarcastic about it. shooting the messenger.

  • 104 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    Best striker we have had at NUFC in a long time, shame if he goes. He is right criticizing the way we play and not creating chances, it is one of our biggest problems IMO but for some reason Pardew can’t figure it out and I don’t blame Ba for being frustrated although he should have spoke to Pardew about it not the media

  • 105 Nufc-83 // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    If i was pardew i would drop this mercenary and play Cisse through the middle. I understand that decision is nearly impossible to make due to the form showed by Ba but he is showing no loyalty to us will almost certainly be off in jan. Show support to cisse pards get him back in the middle and scoring goals Ba is stupidly greedy and his attitude stinks.

  • 106 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Beattie….

    Pardews successes in the last decade.

    01/02 – Auto promotion from league 2 with Reading.

    02/03 – 4th in league one, but lost in the play-off final. Touted as “one of the game’s best up and coming young managers.”

    03/04 – Reached the play-off final with West Ham, but lost.

    04/05 – Bad start and came under pressure, got West Ham promoted via a play-off final.

    05/06 – Got 9th in the PL with West Ham and lost in the FA Cup final to Liverpool after penalties.

    06/07 – Terrible start at West Ham, fired in December 2006.

    06/07 – Took over relegation strugglers Charlton who were rock bottom with 12 points and a -20 goal difference on Christmas Eve 2006, but wasn’t able to save them from relegation. (would be a bit like blaming Redknapp is QPR get relegated).

    07/08 – Got 11th with Charlton.

    08/09 – Parted company with Charlton in November 2008 after a run of 8 games without a win and growing fan protests.

    09/10 – Joined Soton and despite a 10 point deduction only missed play-offs by 2 games. Not sure if it was this season or next but he won the Football league trophy.

    He then left Soton due to “reports of low staff morale and conflicts between Pardew and club chairman, Nicola Cortese”.

    So, what to make of it all? Probably he’s neither wonderful nor terrible. I don’t know enough about his time at those clubs to comment deeply, but I do wonder what support he was given by the various owners etc.

    I don’t see anything to suggest he’s a terrible manager or can’t bring some form of success to Newcastle.

  • 107 nufcusa // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Tsunki – although I feel your comment was somewhat tongue in cheek there is some mileage to your theory. Ba’s “loyalty” to his other clubs is testament to that

  • 108 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Nufcusa – yeah I meant it but I can’t resist being flippant with it. I can’t resist it. :)

  • 109 Rake // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    It’s clear we don’t create enough chances, but it’s entirely possible this is because Pardew knows our defence isn’t Premier League quality and plays Guti to cover Santon two holding mids (against City) to try and help Collo and Willo out. This basically leaves us with one winger (Anita against City) and the striker’s who have to go and create chances and score goals… just a thought
    Pardew Out? calm down

  • 110 G // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    RH @ 91, perhaps Alan Ball was a bad example, but I was simply trying to sugest the calibre of the type of manager I would expect MA/DL to appoint.

  • 111 spitfire_ // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    I bet Alan’s tongue is smooth… after so detail licking of owner @ss… Rugged Alan’s tongue is too good for Ashley?

  • 112 funguswatty // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    let him go he only wants the money and i bet if we where in the top 6 like last year he would be saying nothing and wanting to stay ,plus he unsettling the whole club and fans with his rants

  • 113 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Transfer Sage

    your welcome :)

    simple answer is NO

    for many reasons

    i think in 2 years of him being here i have not seen many good games,, even though we got beat v man c that was one of his better games

    i know ppl on hear are banging on about lack of players coming in the summer time, and that is a fair point, i still think we had enough in our squad to win more games than we have,,

    i dont understand why it has taken a man who is in charge of our a prem club to figure out hoofing it was not getting us anywhere,, and i think both sets of fans , pro and against could see that was a big problem,,

    in nearly every match he has played, when we score first, we tend to sit back and soak up the preasure,, for me this is a huge mistake,, even poor teams have good players that can hurt you,,

    then there is his team selections,, you can traul trough all of my posts and you wont find one of me saying why is williamson playing,, i can see he has no real option there, but playing jonas every week and im not just talking about the last few games, IMO jonas has been shocking all season, he makes subs around jonas insted of subing him
    i have no clue why we are still playing with Ba and cisse in the team we can all see that is not working yet he keeps flogging a dead horse with that one,,

    i think he is weak with senior players and management above him

    his comments after matches, he has the best excuse book in the world,

    it was said by some of the pro pardew group ,, pardew stumbled accross a 433 that worked last year , we played our best football at that time, at no point has he thought, hmm lets try that again,, its lets keep Ba happy at all costs,,

    his job is to pick the best team to win games, thats not just pick his best friends and best players and fit them into one team, lesser ability or young players can come in and do a job, this seems lost on pardew,,

    i do dislike obertan, but i think pardews treatment of him last season was shocking, HBA was sitting there waiting to come on, not the first few matches, but after about match 5, obertan got worse and worse and pardew kept sending him out there, the fans at the ground where graoning every time he got the ball,, pardew could have taken him out the lime light for a bit,, but he chose to keep playing him until he got injured

    i find him very arrogant, he treats us fans as mugs

    last weeek he said if we lose 1 we will get 2,, now he is saying 1 might go,, but if i keep everyone,, id like 1 to come in,,

    is one player going to make so much difference??

    and the one we are most linked with is the one we dont really need, remmy,, until ba goes,, why sign more forwards

    jan last year defenders where his big need, the summer defenders where his big need,, why on earth did he let other players come in first,, cisse and anita are great signings,, but we didnt need them

    pardew is only a puppet

    answer this,, who is better CH or pardew?

  • 114 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    ibiza @105 long list there buddy. but its all ” nearlys” and “ifs” and could haves but lets be honest , i cant see a cup anywhere, and i think when we ( me included ) go on about his CV thats what i mean , where is the success ?? looks like a lot of , hard lines , bad look , or did he just not have the know how to finish a job off??? could that be EXACTLY what is happening now. i would love him to finish off mate, can he?????????

  • 115 WWYCD // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    Is it bad that I put most belief behind transfer speculation when its the Mail reporting it? How times change

  • 116 toonking // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    the only position we should bring a player in for without having to sell a player is CB ATM we can’t even afford to sell willo.
    as for the rest of the team well
    ba- remy
    tiote-a LW
    simmo-debuchy although i think lille were reported to be waiting until the summer

  • 117 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Can the posters who want to just have a pop at each other fack off please!

    To decent posters who want to discuss – Chris Samba anyone?

  • 118 G // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Forgot Samba existed, in Russia somewhere these days isn’t he? How old is he anyway, got to be knocking on 30′s door soon, probs still got a couple of years in him though.

  • 119 Joe Blog // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Misconstrued opinions. One-upmanship akin to that on a playground. Long-standing vendettas. Just another day on the f*** blog :D

  • 120 Nufc-83 // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM

    I would love chris samba. I also read in an article lescott has been told he can leave in jan by City. either of them two please.

  • 121 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand

    but if you look at the other way, it does not say he is prem quality either,, if anything, he is an average championship manager,

    i dont think he has ever had a squad as good as this one,, and he is still complaining,,

    his 2 best players before this group where tevez and masc, and he miss treated them,, and you can say yeh yeh, tevez, he is trouble, he is still that same player, yet he gets games with man c,, the prem champions,, masc, has is one of the first names on barcas team sheet,,,, 2 of the best players in world football, and pardew had no clue what to do with them,,

    that sounds alittle bit like what is happening here,, cisse and ba, cabaye HBA,, all playing in only 1 in his best position BA

  • 122 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Stuart….Absolutely. Each year managers in the UK have a limited amount of trophies to chase, so you also have to consider the resources of each manager to determine how successful they are. Moyes is seen as a great manager and I would agree, but when people talk they say “it’s great what he’s achieved with such limited resources”.

    Anyway. He did win the 2010 Football League Trophy, not a big whoop, but still. He also got his team to an FA Cup final, yeah he didn’t win it, but going to penalties against Liverpool, fair play.

    What have we achieved as a club that is deserving of a manager with a credentials list as long as my posts? :)

    I honestly don’t know whether he can be successful, no one can really (although they claim to be able to), but I do believe with proper support he could and that’s the first time in a long while i’ve felt that way about a manager of ours, but it’s unlikely to happen in one, two or even three seasons.

    Incidentally, is it you whose sons make electronic music? I believe you sent me a link once, but maybe I have the wrong person?!?

  • 123 Its not arfa Ba but krul for cisse // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    I’m sorry but some of you have a really childish mentality. Ba is a professional and at the end of the day his career is short and he has to do whats best for him. Ashley and Llambias messed about in the summer and showed a lack of ambition that is haunting us right now, and let’s not forget they were happy to have that clause in when Ba signed. Stop whining about loyalty and just accept he’s very likely going to leave and let’s look forward to his replacement.

    Thousands of footballers have passed through the doors of NUFC and thousands more will in the future but the club will always go on.

  • 124 IPToon // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    JONAS GUTIERREZ – comes under a lot of stick now for basically offering absolutely nothing in terms of creativity and attacking options. All he can do is work hard defensively.

    When we first signed him he was loved (not by all) for his ability to be direct, run passed players and help push the team forward. His main criticism from everyone was that he did the hard work (get passed his defender and to the byline) but his crossing was naff. Whilst always putting in a great shift defencively.

    So why has he in the last two seasons lost that yard of pace to run passed players? that was his main attribute so rightfully people are now questioning his position in the team.

    Its not age and he hasnt suffered any major injuries.

    In my opinion he has hit the gym too much. He has clearly been hitting the gym since he joined and his upper body is now pretty massive. Its happened to players before, put on too much muscle and lost their pace. drug test for Jonas?

  • 125 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Ibiza – all those ‘acheivements’ are below of what is required of him now. He has never managed a team of talented technical international footballers, and currently he is struggling to get them playing decent football.

    Has Pardohs! teams ever played decent football?

    Was he lucky at Soton, their squad came straight up as champions when he left and then were promoted into the PL the season after, clearly had a good squad.

    West Ham had a decent squad he took them down. We have a great squad could go down. For me his career reads a bit different.

    Charlton had some PL players he did shit and was sacked, he was expected to bring them straight back up.

    So he got Reading promoted from div2 wow, again Coppell took over the season after he failed to get them up and won the league with a record number of points, the following year they finished 8th in the PL. This is the same team Pardew couldnt get promoted? is he a success, did he just have some good players and underperform. i think we know what the answer is?

  • 126 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    catchy

    A fair asseessment that we needed players to get 5th again (or even 6/7th) but yes I agree that the players we have should be between 8-10th (8th if none injured, with current injuries 10th is fair)

    And yeh I agree the style of play is poor, not many games have we played with a nice, fluid style that I think would best suit our players. Even a long ball game I could tollerate providing there was attacking intent but we are far too defensive, we allow teams to play against us and all sides have at least 2/3 players who can hurt you on their day).

    Do you think that the way he was sacked from Southampton (unhappy dressing room and chairman) has maybe influenced his team selection, not wanting to drop the favoured players in the dressing room who could cause him problems, same as letting nolan and barton go, maybe he fears big characters and influencial players????

    Any maybe he fears upsetting Ashley as he doesn’t want the sack?? (we dont know if the 8 year contract is water tight or not so he might get minimal pay out)

    I’m not saying these are valid reasons for this happening…just suggesting a possible reason for it.

  • 127 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    Catchy…It’s all relative mate. He generally achieved average to good level in the lower leagues, with average to good lower league players, he was working within his means, nothing to suggest with PL players who wouldn’t do the same in the PL.

    I agree in that he’s never had a team like this one, but that doesn’t mean it can’t or shouldn’t be improved. He’s also said what a great team it is, but we all know it’s probably a team that sits between 10th and 6th, so to push on and to deal with EL games, it needs playing with.

    Tevez we can indeed discount. Yes he’s good, yes he gets games at Man City, but before they were desperately trying to get rid of him. By all accounts he’s a joke of a human being. As for Mach, i’ll give you that as i don’t have any info whatsoever. So that’s one player he hasn’t managed properly, but hang on, all managers have that player that got way from them to some degree, it’s called learning. Question is, has he?

  • 128 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    ibiza yeah one of my sons is a music producer and dj. i have been emailing ed these last few weeks,if he would allow my son to put his new track and video on this blog , so that you guys could click on the link and listen to it-and watch the video on you tube, he thought it a great idea and is kindly putting it on the main page for 1 week when it is fimished – as this blog goes world wide, it would raise his profile no end. middle jan looks like release date.

  • 129 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    G – he is at Anzi – I would liken it to when we brought Killer Kilcline to do a job for a couple of years. We cant afford to gamble on a centre back in the second half of the season IMO

  • 130 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    stuart

    what’s his name? any stuff on youtube already?

    wouldn’t mind a listen

  • 131 rainrix // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8341150/Marseille-s-Loic-Remy-would-be-keen-on-a-move-to-Newcastle-Sky-Sports-understands

    I got a semi when i saw that, then i remembered the fat man wont spend any money, now i am sad :(

  • 132 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Check…I have always said that I didn’t follow Pardew prior to when he joined us, so all I know is what I can find online…and guess what, opinions differ as much as they do on here.

    What is your definition of good football? I would say yes, but so far not consistently.

    Were the squads the same when Pardew took over and when he left and then when the new managers came in?

    People are quick to credit CH with alot of our success for his work before Pardew, could the same not be said in those other jobs or Pardew?

    I know I come across as Pardew is god, but that isn’t how I feel at all. I think he’s good and deserves a chance. I don’t see the point in changing him for another Ashley choice manager. If we were looking at a top quality coach then fine, it would be an improvement, but not just a change as things aren’t going so well at the minute, especially after the board haven’t so far lived up to their part of the deal.

  • 133 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Rotonda @100.
    A brisk retort using the Queens English is enough to ensure that ruffians and scallywags do not cross the line.

  • 134 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Ibiza – i would argue that he actually had decent lower league players at the level they were competing and he has always under acheived, this can be seen by the progress made by any team he managed as soon as he has left,

    Maybe he is a super judge of a player but cant get the best out of them on the pitch, i will give him massive credit if he was involved in the signings of Cisse, Cabaye, Santon, Anita, however think they were more Carrs recommendations.

    Now Obertan, that has Parsnip written all over it – I actually dont mind the lad to be fair and dont see him as a bad buy at 3 million pound, in fact he is good for 3 million if you compare with disasters such as Albert Luque.

    Pardrip is medicre at best.

  • 135 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Gentlemen

    Please see Ibiza for the correct way to respond to people on the blog.

    Time and time again he is faced with opinions that contradict his own and time and time again he responds with the courtesy, diligence and intelligence that each opinion deserves.

    The true hallmark of a man is how he responds to an opinion that is different from his own.

    Ibiza, without brown nosing you even further, you are a true honour to this forum, you get what it means to be sane in a world of madness.

  • 136 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    Stuart….Quite chuffed there, my memory isn’t as bad as I thought :)

    That’s excellent news, you must be really proud. Do let us know when the links live (you know, I’m not on here much so may miss it….)

    Wish your son all the best from me.

    Rainrix…..Time for a cold shower lad, although the thought of Ashley should have a similar if not better effect.

  • 137 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    I second your comments Beattie, why dont we see if we can get Ibiza rattled in the next 30mins?

    Alright Ibiza lad :-) lol

  • 138 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Loic Remy wil not be coming to the Toon, only when Ba is off the wage bill will any attempt to make another striker signing be made.

    Sissoko might be more of a shout for me, out of contract, and suited by no other clubs, would be perfect, hope we sell Simmo in January, and put young Tav in Full Back, we should be going for a big CB who can lay a bit (Douglas fits the bill) as the top priority.

    Douglas and Sissoko in would make me a little less grumpy.

  • 139 Shedzzzaa // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    Remy quoted by sky tyne and wear…
    http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/article/50540

  • 140 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    Beattie…Thanks, i must say though your post did read as a rally call rather than posing a possible course of action. Maybe that was in my interpretation, but I’m sure you can forgive people for coming to that conclusion, it’s not like you’re not known to throw yourself in the deep end or to be controversial…you c*ck ;)

    Check – I fear these leads to me watching all of Pardews career on youtube! Sounds too hard, Pardew out!

  • 141 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Hotdog…Come on mate, at least make it a challenge….

  • 142 Magpie Nepal // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    feels great to finally comment on this blog!!!! wish i felt the same about my team’s performance and league position.
    A big Hello to all!!!!

  • 143 rainrix // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    I only see remy coming through the door if ba goes tbh. Although if we could guarantee remy coming in at the expense of ba i’d say do it, that way we’d finally have the balance in the team hopefully. That does add the need for another striker if cisse decides to continue religiously abstain from scoring, what happened to that luuk de jong fellow anyway ;)

    Ibiza… I might do both, our results are causing me to develop a masochistic side as a coping mechanism might as well exaggerate it ;)
    mmmm cold shower…..

  • 144 Rotonda heights // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Actually come to think of it, that is very true about Ibiza.
    We are often at variance in opinions but he never resorts to name calling or the like. He is the bigger brother I never had!

  • 145 Sazzer // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Pardew said: one in if everone stays. Two if one goes, three if two goes.

    So is this the plan over three windows?
    Obertan, Gosling, Marveux out: Biglia/Remy/Aubemeyang/Bella in.
    Simpson out in summer – Debuchy/someone equal in.
    Tiote or Ba out – Sissoko/Diame/Remy/Aubemeyang in
    Sammy, Amalfitano (loan) – Sougou/Boudebouz/Bella in.
    Tavernier (loan) – Pezella

    CB in with no one out it is then.

  • 146 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    If Ibiza was scaled on the PH Scale he would be Neutral, Old Ruddy was Alkaline and Beattie for sure is Battery Acid.

  • 147 Rotonda heights // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Rainrix

    unless pardew does something stupid (surely not!) then cisse will be back in his right position and the goals will flow again

  • 148 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    Rotonda – I am not abusive to anyone. If you don’t realise the difference between almost every anti poster and Beattie your dumb!
    And your not dumb. Beattie blows in the wind. He takes a different stand pretty much every time he posts. He totally lacks conviction. He’s an attention seeker and drama queen who announces he’s going to leave if we don’t buy big in August. He’s not like Bollance who knows
    more about football than Beattie will ever know he just stopped posting No big drama but a constant ulterior motive too manipulate the more malleable. I don’t share your or Catchy’s opinion but I respect you.
    Do not confuse my position and attitude to those that dissemble. To my knowledge your fingers are clean-LOL

  • 149 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Rainrix…Cold showers and a picture of Ashley? Absolutely impossible to gain an erection. This is not the time or place, but that is surely a fact!?!? :)

    Rotonda….. :) Not sure about the older bit, but thanks. You’re like the sister I never had – I jest as a sibling of course. Would be funnier if I didn’t have a sister maybe? Okay, it was just out right not amusing at all.

    I’ll just leave it with a thank you and despite our differing opinions, when we get a debate going they’re more often than not reasonable and well argued.

    Joe Blogg…Now’s the time, strike me down, this positivity is making me uneasy, I might start thinking I have some worth in a minute.

  • 150 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    Rainrix…I’d like to go one further…there is no time or place for that discussion, I am sorry for continuing it. In fact, I feel sick for continuing it :)

    Check….I like it. The posters PH level test – what could go wrong? Ah yes, the posters own opinions….always the same, never a solution!

  • 151 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    My words are often taken away from the meaning due to my underlying Aspergers’ syndrome.

  • 152 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    Ibiza- your interpretation was correct. It was revolution not evolution.
    Beattie should be tried for treason and when found guilty, by a poll organised by Ed, spend the rest of his miserable life in The Tower of London.

  • 153 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    ibiza will do mate – thanks for that! what you mean your not on here much , your never off the f???cking thing lol
    TRANSFER @129 i will give him a ring and find out what the best link is to hear a bit of his stuff – i know he has some tracks on soundcloud but will give more info if you are interested, cheers.

  • 154 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    Check the toastie

    Thankyou for the compliment

  • 155 HullMag6 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    Here’s some blue sky thinking.

    Ba goes
    Remy signs plus a few expected defs/mids. Then just as we think its all done Walcott comes in as surprise signing. Ps anyone heard what Beckhams plans are when he comes back to the uk. Supersub/deadball/set play king.

    Hang on, that would be getting carried away then.

    HWTL.

  • 156 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Rotonda– reading you on the Cisse goal tap being turned on. I would exercise caution in your thinking here. Last season Chelsea fans i were forever saying Torres was going to go on a goal spree. Given the general lack of goals throughout the side I would prefer not to lose Ba without making a supreme effort to keep him on board.

  • 157 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    stuart

    thanks….hopefully i wont miss when you post it

  • 158 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    Beattie…It has been suggested I suffer from mild Aspergers, but fear not, you know how to use your words better than most.

    Ian….Maybe, maybe not. Whilst often seen as being a drama queen, I do have a soft spot for wor beatrice and will protect his right to ramble to the bitter end – Don’t think any less of me, consider it my guilty pleasure. Joking aside, he has and does contribute some good stuff along the way.

    Stuart….A classic case of sarcasm on my part…for a change :)

  • 159 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Stuart…What name does your son go by? The name escapes me (Normal memory service resumes…)

  • 160 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Re read my comment at 30.

    I said that my soloution would be for us to try and ‘take down the house of cards’ implying that in my opinion the problem with Newcastle United is inherent throughout the club, not just one particular person or persons.

    We could sack Pardew but then what? sack Del Boy but then what? sell players/buy players but then what?

    We need a new owner who can change the direction we are going in and with that we’d eventually get a new manager, new MD and better investment into the squad, from grass roots upwards.

    After I said I felt this was the soloution I then that the things I listed would be a sure fire way of forcing Ashley out. I didnt say that was the only thing that could work or the thing we should do.

    I was hoping for an Ibiza like character to step in and say ‘I think your wrong because Ashley is good for the club etc…’ but all I got was a group of short sighted buffoons scared of opinions thay may be percieved to be ‘outthere’ from the norm.

    As long as Ashley is our owner I see him continuing with this current business model and as long as this business model is in place I see no future success for our team.

    Can anyone offer anything different?

  • 161 lewytoon // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4703921/Alan-Pardews-apology-to-Newcastle-fans.html

  • 162 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    TRANSFER —– i;ll make sure you dont !

  • 163 numba9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    START THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH BURNLEY OVER CHARLIE AUSTIN NOW, BEFORE WE GET TRAMPLED ALLOVER AGAIN AND YET AGAIN LEAVE IT TOOOOO LATE, MOVE WITH CONVICTION ! SPEND TIGHT ASHLEY

  • 164 lloydie780 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Chek the toastie what are you on about? Simmo is poor, but Tav is even worse! I ahve always wanted Tav to come good but cummon as a starter, he just aint got it. He is quick but not quick enough to get out of problems. His defensive work aint great and positional sense is awful. Simmon can defend but cant attack. Really need to look at it properly, as has been said for the last year and a half – we need a new right back altogether.

  • 165 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Beattie…I’ve re-read it and I think the issue may lie with this one line…

    “I though believe I have the answer.”

    Sounds like you were saying exactly that and what you proposed was the answer.

    Fair enough you expected someone to offer an alternative opinion, but you know what we think already, as it’s been discussed over and over. Once again, I think unless you point out it was just an idea, not the solution, you should have expected the responses you got….sad, but something we all know in this blog world will happen.

    With Ashley, I do still believe to some extent, but don’t preach as much as I used to (the whole OV thing still has peoples backs up and i do get it to some degree…only some though). Ashley will have to make the next move, nothing any of us can say to change opinion at this point.

    I would say though, that when judging the man, think carefully about what it his he wants to achieve and what we as fans want. There will be a difference, so it’s a question of can some middle ground be achieved? I think there is, but with the lack of whatever it is (trust, etc) between Ashley and the fans it will be a difficult process to get there.

  • 166 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Ibiza #140 – I cant ive just had a go at people for slagging each other. Ill find ya achillies though ;-)

    Beattie – We aint gonna win anything mate with Man U. Chelsea and Man City spending power. Ashley is correct not to throw money at the club, he just has to find the balance and give us a team we can be proud of. heres hoping

  • 167 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    lewytoon

    dont you think they should have learnd from the transfer window before,, we where a CB short then,, 2 windows to figure out we needed a CB

    who is pardew covering??

    if he has nothing good to say ,, keep quiet

  • 168 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Hotdog….Well I wouldn’t want you to be a hypocrite :) I have no doubt that you will find a way, someday.

    On your comment to Beattie, finding the balance is crucial, as fans we want it all and understandably so, but it’s not realistic, between the board and the fans we need to find something both are happy with or it’ll always be a sour relationship.

  • 169 numba9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    WE WONT HAVE SUCCESS WITH ASHLEYS HAND ON THE TILLER, HE WANTS TO SIGN KIDS ON A REVOLVING DOOR SYSTEM SO ANY AFFINITY WE GATHER TOWARDS A PLAYER WILL BE SHORT LIVED THE SAME AS THE SEQUANCE OF RESULTS. FOR ME WE SHOULD HAVE SIGNED ALOT MORE IN SUMMER AND MAINLY EXPERIENCE PROVEN TALENT, BUT THEY WENT THE OTHER WAY AND OUR POSITION SHOWS PARDS AND ASHLEY IN TRUE LIGHT

  • 170 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand

    most of the fans want us to attack more than we do
    pardwho does not deliver,
    whe have a squad full of attacking options

  • 171 Indian Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Transfer sage

    Your mate Dhawan scored a century today his 16th First class

  • 172 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    LLoydie – sorry for taking the p1ss out of your saturday night on the tiles, dont want to make anything personel, but Simmo is shit has been for ages for a number of reasons and Tavernier is the future, anybody with a hole in their arse can see the lad has ability.

    You probably only just realised that Anita should be in the team as well, even though he has been Ajax’s best player over the last 12 months and is in the dutch national side.

    Get Tav in the side now and Simmo out of the club in Jan, Pardrip…..

  • 173 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Ibiza

    The ‘answer’ was to topple the house of cards, the rest was how it could be done.

    The ‘answer’ may be to play Cisse is the middle and then we discuss how it is done.

    The ‘answer’ may be strike for better wages and then we discuss how it could be done.

    I understand how it could be mistaken on first glances but I suppose writing it to serve a certain purpose is different
    to readining it with another purpose in mind.

    Thats the problem with blogs, we forget individuality is the persona of a singular person, and sometimes that person could make logical sense to themselves and be speaking an entirely different language than everyone else in the room. We cannot hear the words, nor see them being spoken, we can only read and allow our own minds to interperate the intended methodology.

  • 174 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Catchy….I have said it before, but imo he is covering for what he and the majority of fans deem an under par defensive unit.

    One philosophy is to just attack, that clearly isn’t Pardews, but that doesn’t mean once that has been addressed he’d persist with the same, that is just your expectation.

  • 175 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    Did anyone mention the reserves got beat 5-1 off Southampton?

  • 176 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    Beattie…Can’t argue that, I’ve certainly said things that I believe to have been taken the wrong way completely. Keeping an open mind and not stereotyping can be difficult… especially on here!

    Right guys, off for a viewing. Take it easy.

  • 177 numba9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM

    dont believe the remy rumour atall. just more talk with no actions, i dont see us being better off come feb 1st

  • 178 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM

    Indian

    Thanks…is there anywhere I can watch those games online?

  • 179 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    Transfer Sage

    i think most of pardews problem is he arrogance,, i think ppl at southamton seen that and he was shipped out,,

    i think of our current crop only BA gets things his way

    i may be wrong but jonas does not seem the type of player to spit his dummy out, he is played in to many different positions
    i think HBA cisse and cabaye are all out of there best positions, and if the players had him worried,, HBA would be a no10 cabaye would not be so deep, and cisse would get a turn playing up top

    i think he believes his way is best, regardless

    the guys around pardwho,

    carver, assistant to SBR. played attacking football
    steve stone, was an AMC
    peter berdo ( my all time fave player) attacking player,,

    i find it very strange with the whole set up that we play very defensive football,,

    i mean even carr, he brings us lots of great attcking players,,

    im thinking pardwho is the odd man out

  • 180 Indian Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:58 PM

    TS

    Not sure mate, tough for me out here

  • 181 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Seriously Catchy – This is getting unhealthy with ya Pards bashing – lighten up kid

  • 182 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Beattie – well said, whatever it means :)

    How many dictionary’s did you eat for dinner?

  • 183 lewytoon // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    norway

    it seems hes realised hes done wrong which is good, but then seems to not understand the situtaion by saying we only need one…..

  • 184 outsidethebox // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    all talk is about striker or another midfielder…..OPEN LETTER TO PARDIEU …CENTRE BACK…..NUMBER ONE PRIORITY ….CENTRE BACK….

  • 185 HullMag6 // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    I think pardews tactics were to accomodate Ba’s ego and to put him ‘in the shop window’ cisse should come good once back into cf position of a 433.

    Time will tell, whatever happens – Howay

  • 186 lloydie780 // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    Check – Simmon is sh1te. the one thing i agree with you about. Tav is the future of League 1/Championship. The kid just aint got it. Aint anywhere near it in fact. We need a new player in there?
    Anita? I have never critisized. Your obvs one of these guys who saw him, as a decent footballer on fm over a few years and thought decent signing when we bought him and have copied what they said on the Ajax fansite ‘o what a big loss he will be, he has been our top performer.’ etc. etc. etc. Truly clueless. Unlike you who has got all your talk off our comments on here regarding Anita i watch Dutch, German, French and Spanish leagues quite often. I never rated Anita highly but thought he was solid enough.
    Also i want alkl our youngsters to start and become top players but very few will-
    Tav- aint good enough
    Ferguson- better as an impact player atm, needs to bulk up, good crosser. He has a chance.
    Abeid- looks decent but again probably wont make it. Decent aint good enough.
    Good- what i have seen is pretty poor.
    Vuckic- injury prone and has been held back in his development. not good enough or reliable enough
    Ameobi- is not and never will be good enough.
    Streete+Campbell- both have looked good and i have faith in them but could be versions of Steven Taylor and Chopra. How mnay times have we as fans over rated a young up and coming striker. We always dream of the next shearer etc but sadly they are hard to find.

    Check you need to stop playing fm and actually watch football. Reading your comments has always made me laugh but now you have stepped it up and taken the p1ss out of me for sayoing what our great super stars were like after getting done over yet again.

  • 187 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Indian

    I thought there would be a lot of tv coverage for cricket out in India? Or are people not too bothered about state cricket?

  • 188 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    TS – I am not a great cricket fan but how come it gets loads of coverage on Sky when the crowds are abysmal?

  • 189 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    Lloydie – sorry you didnt make it as a pro.

    I think if you watch a bunch of Young lads in a nightclub messing around, them being footballers or not you may not approve, you state that Young Sammi is Arrogant and unpleasant, never comes across that way to me, you form your opinion from what, a bit of voyeurism in a VIP area in a nightclub.

    Go and count your cash you jumped up dick.

  • 190 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    Lloydie – shouldnt have called you dick, being close to christmas and all.

    Didnt really mean it, however you couldnt help but get personel could you, learn from some old sages on here that abuse is not the answer.

    Prick.

  • 191 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    Hotdog

    Crowds in the uk at good for international games but very low for domestic games.

    Simple answer is international cricket goes on all year round so the best players are always with their national sides. This usually means that the domestic cricket hasn’t got the very top players in and is therefore a slightly lower standard.

    20 and 40 over cricket gets decent crowds domestically but 4 day games don’t. Games are often midweek and go from 10-11am til 5/6pm so a lot of people work and can’t get there.

  • 192 HullMag6 // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    I have to agree.

    Defence is the priority or it should be.

    But if there is an opportunity to improve of consolidate on other positions if Mike is prepared to spend why not?

    Imo, nufc’s biggest liability is ‘purples’ lamearse. Did he cost us some summer signings?

  • 193 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    perfect transfer window for me would be

    in- douglas, debuchy, remy

    out – llambias

  • 194 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    TS – Got ya. I prefer the 20-20 when they got to go for it but when the camera pans into the crowd there is a bloke asleep with his straw hat on :-)

  • 195 Joe Blog // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Oguchi Onyewu on his way back to Tyneside.

  • 196 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    hotdog

    It is good though if you go for a full day (6/7 hours) and can take a few drinks in, have a nice day sat in he sun, watch a bit of cricket, have a chat with friend and other fans…good day out really)

    I like football games too but not keen on the anger than some fans show during games, throwing things, constant abuse of players and away fans, etc….but I do find football much more passionate.

  • 197 HullMag6 // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Lol @ Sage, if only…..

  • 198 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    Hull

    We can only dream…especially at this magical time of year.

  • 199 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    I wonder how much influence this Lee Charnley has-

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1193373/newcastle's-alan-pardew-eyeing-seven-defenders?cc=5739#

    Sorry Mr Charnley ive sent the nufc.blog after you. Watch out for Kets, Catchy amongst others ;-)

  • 200 cyprus // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Getting nasty around here. Wait till xmas, this is just the start. We need to have 22 points by then which translates to one win and a couple of draws! It can be done, beginning with QPR. All players must play as if their career depends on that game, because it does. If we continue to flounder, gone will be Ba, HBA, Cabaye, and who can blame them. It’s a professional game, has been for years!

  • 201 cyprus // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    And, my two piece: What we lack is a leader on the pitch, which, in truth we don’t have. Someone who will just refuse to give up and can even change games himself. Gerrard could do that (now he’s a liability), but there is someone who is better, whose contract expires next summer, is out of favour at his club, and is the highest scoring MF in the league. Our direct competitors QPR (and Arsenal) are said to be interested… Forget the ‘fringe’ players I’ve heard bandied these days, go for an experienced leader who will change our season: F.L.

  • 202 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    cyprus

    yeh agree we need a leeder…we never replaced nolan in that respect

    we need somebody to rally the lads when everything is going against them, thats why we have never won after conceding first.

    if we went 4-0 down to arsenal this year i couldn’t see us getting back into it now

  • 203 cyprus // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    So, AP, if you read this blog to kill time (and spoil your day), here’s the solution: Frank Lampard! Your job will be saved and the masses will be solaced.

  • 204 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    cyprus

    are you referring to frank lampard?

  • 205 cyprus // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    Transfer,
    Nolan and that Englishman with a french accent…

  • 206 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    Cyprus – Do tell?

  • 207 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    cyprus

    Lampard will be after easily 150k a week…well more than the 60k a week we have as a wage cap

  • 208 HullMag6 // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Cyprus – who?

    Sounds like Becks but if not him who it could be I’m at a loss. Can’t afford. Goldenballs anyway.

  • 209 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Cyprus

    Another option would be to scout around all english and european clubs and look at their captains, see which would improve the team and then bring in one or two of them, so we have natural leaders throughout the side

  • 210 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Our Reserves losing 5-1 to Southampton
    will not define our season.

  • 211 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Cyprus – surely not Fat Frank, hes shot as a player and will be injured for the rest of it. The worst signing a club like us could make, unless it was 12 months, which he would never agree with.

    Anita shows leadership, took responsibility for every dead ball at the weekend and demanded the ball in difficult positions on the pitch, Have needed for many years now a massive bulk of a centre half, fingers crossed he will be got ‘over the line’ in January.

  • 212 cyprus // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    Arsenal were rampant last night. On Ba (we need players IN not out!):

    “I have nothing to say about those speculations [with Arsenal]. Nothing has happened,” Ba told Canal+.
    “The media know Arsenal need another striker and they know about my release clause. They need to make their own mind up about it.
    “Arsenal are one of those teams who makes you dream.”
    Pardew admitted that Newcastle face a difficult January transfer window earlier this month, with the Magpies boss expecting speculation to be rife about Ba’s future.
    “The situation [has] never changed. I think Demba is a player who loves it here and understands it’s a football city,” Pardew said.
    “We’ve tried to do a deal with him and take the clause out, and that’s probably where the speculation has come from, because we’ve not been able to do that yet.
    “So the clause is always there hanging over us. It makes it difficult for me in the next window, makes it difficult for Demba and it makes it difficult for the club.
    “But we accept that’s how football is.”

  • 213 HullMag6 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    Lamps? Hmmmmm

    Not sure about that one

  • 214 Joe Blog // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    We need a Jaap Stam type.

  • 215 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Check – I thought the same as you with Lampard but i tell you what he was top drawer in those Champion league games when they won it!

  • 216 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM

    We need a Bobby Moore Type with a bit of Franco Baresi mixed in, maybe a bit of Terry Butcher as well, come on Parsnip find us that player, it cant be that hard.

    PARDEW OUT…….

  • 217 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    Joe – We need anybody with a bit of quality, still think Chris Samba is our best stop gap. We could buy a CB from abroad who needs time to adjust, most of them do and we aint got time on our side.

  • 218 cyprus // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Yes, Lampard would turn our season. We can’t experiment this January, we need a real captain, a leader, that’s what’s missing. Anita is a nice lad, but not a leader, same with Colo. Taylor could’ ve been, but I don’t count on him AT ALL anymore. Another Dyer… In fact, his start -stop- stop is more disruptive and deceives us into thinking we have a player. Much like our poorest transfer to date (I’ll let you guess that one!).

  • 219 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Hotdog, still think the lads a good PL player, just dreamland thinking he either fits in with our club ethos? or would be interested in leaving London.

    Why dont we sign Busquets or Xavi, as much chance…

  • 220 Joe Blog // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Who is the best ‘psycho CB’ in world football, at the moment? I can’t think of any, they’re all sly gits these days, the blatantly psychotic CB that opposing players dare not tread near, are a dying breed.

  • 221 OhSholaAmeobi // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:08 PM

    I used to love jonas cos he used to drive forward and be constantly running, used to defend him when any of my mates said he was crap. I can’t defend him any more, has to be dropped. Him & Williamson.
    2012-2013 PL stats:
    Jonas Gutierrez, 16 games (1352 minutes), 0 goals, 0 assists (4Y, 0R)
    Sylvain Marveaux, 8 games (216 minutes), 0 goals, 2 assists
    Shola Ameobi, 10 games (286 minutes), 0 goals, 2 assists (2Y)
    Shane Ferguson, 8 games (337 minutes), 0 goals, 1 assist
    http://www.eplindex.com/19467/transformation-jonas-gutierrez-stats-analysis.html
    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/newcastle-united/leistungsdaten/verein_762.html

  • 222 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    Robert Huth is still a menace like, loves a fight and is really sly and nasty. Bit slow though.

  • 223 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    Ashley Willams from Swansea or Shawcross from Stoke.

    Thats my two options. :-)

    Probably out of our price range no doubt.

  • 224 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    im gutted

    messi just signed an extension to his contract

    pardwho could have made him the best in the world

    oh well his loss

    hotdog

    NEVER not till the parsnip is out of or club

  • 225 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    Check – I think he will be looking for one last pay day and he aint getting that here!

    Got to fly laters

  • 226 toonicle // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Let him go, Cisse playing alone in the middle with Remy and Ben-Arfa on the 2 wings and we could be back on track for a top 10 if not top 6.

  • 227 OhSholaAmeobi // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Oh and I very much doubt Ba said he wants to be off, just sensationalism in the media putting newcastle down again. Arsenal are an attractive club for anybody. He’s our best striker, better all round game than Cisse. It would genuinely be a disaster if he left. Remy is a lazy player.

  • 228 Joe Blog // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Oh yeah, how could I forget Huth, he’s definitely chief crack-pot CB, in the PL.

    His name sounds a bit too much like hoof, though. ;)

  • 229 cyprus // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Lads,
    Lampard still wants to play and whenever he has been given the chance he’s done his thing. Unlike Xavi :), he’d be willing to take a big cut given his age. I’m not sure what our ‘ethos’ is (cheapskate? kidding), but he would make a difference. The others mentioned could do a Marveaux (will come good but he needs time), he’s ready for battle, a born winner. Give him a hundred for a couple years Mike.

  • 230 fray bentos // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Post 30

    jaws of infinite nothingness!!! arghhhh!!

    manipulation!!! what are we gonna do??!

    Anger & rage everywhere!! Oh noooooo!!

  • 231 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    CB would agree on Williams of Swansea fast strong reads the game well and comfortable on the ball as most swans are … How much for him tho ? I would go to 7 million

  • 232 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    I don’t think we are going to win vs QPR.
    QPR is one club we should take notice, they can’t win a game under Hughes. He got sacked, with the same players the club have but change the manager, they are able to win against Fulham (the same Fulham that beat us). I still think that our players have better quality than QPR, but we could lose due to tactical.

    Ibiza – regarding our last discussion if you still remember :). I don’t know if there is relegation release clause on AP’s contract. I don’t think MA will be brave or mad enough to keep AP on the job if the club got relegated just for the sake of avoiding compensation money, but I could be wrong.

  • 233 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    my latest Christmas wish is a new manager who doesn’t make excuses or telling us to see the positives all the time.

  • 234 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    This has gone on for too long. It’s clear to us all after what he has said that he wants to leave, Arsenal looking like his preferred destination.
    It’s been nearly a year since we heard about this clause and it still hasn’t been dealt with. This can be put down to the greediness of Ba and his ‘people’.

    If its true that he will be on the same wages as Colo ( which is around £70,000 p/w if I remember correctly) then I don’t understand why he won’t except it. It’s pure greed. If he doesn’t want to stay then sell him, I’ve had enough of all the speculation surrounding his future.

    I thank him for all the goals he’s scored and what he’s done here, but it seems his time is nearly up. If you don’t want to stay then leave, we’re not stopping you.

  • 235 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Seriously, I have been following Serie A for many years, I have never heard any managers saying let’s take or see the positives from losing so many games.

  • 236 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Santon03

    We played well on Saturday, City were back to there best and walked through us in the 1st half. With our defence there was only going to be one outcome. We’ve played far far worse than that this season.
    It was definitely one of our better performances, it’s just a shame we couldn’t do that earlier in the season.

  • 237 fray bentos // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:26 PM

    @Santon03

    You may be waiting a very very long time then

  • 238 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    I also can’t believe Fellaini only got a 3 match ban. It should’ve been atleast 6. There were a few red card offences in that match. Typical he comes back for our game as well. :rolls:

  • 239 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    So if we are buying a CB Who would you take ?

  • 240 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    Blaydon:

    - Douglas
    - M’Biwa
    - Alderweireld

  • 241 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    Santon…Thanks for coming back to me. Thought you may have read or heard something about the contract. All I know for sure is it’s 8 years…which really doesn’t say much at all. I’m confident, as with most contracts, there are clauses and loopholes to protect Ashley more than Pardew.

  • 242 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    Super…I heard it was 3 games and an FA imposed hair cut – thought it was a bit harsh personally :)

  • 243 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    Aldererwield in January for £6.5m. Mbiwa and Douglas in the summer for £5m combined. Sell Willimason and loan out Saylor.

  • 244 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    Super in that order ? The only reservation about those players is they do not have PL experience and we need a player that can hit the ground running from the off as we can not afford to carry a CB again … Just watched Remy clips on u tube and looks very useful good in the air quick strong and direct but anyone no if he is the real deal as highlights can be misleading as u only see the good ?

  • 245 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    SuperMagpie – yes,we played better on Saturday and should be playing like that since start, and we wouldn’t have Ba commenting about long balls. That’s the problem isn’t it : our defence, with Santon and Simmo bombing forward will leave Willo and Colo at the back playing high line. Many would suggest including me to play with a sweeper leaving 3 men at the back while Santon and RB going forward, but AP will never use a sweeper since he doesn’t know how.

  • 246 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:45 PM

    fray

    then I will seek therapy LOL

  • 247 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Blaydon
    In order:
    M’Biwa
    Alderweireld
    Douglas

    Douglas is the most realistic as he would be the cheapest player to get /3.

  • 248 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Santon very few teams play with a sweeper maybe only Wigan in the PL … You need the right players for that and we would struggle sure if we bought debuchy and a decent CB it would be worth a look but a bit risky to try half way thro a season !

  • 249 beefman13 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Ohshola i seem to remember fergie having three assists in three games, gets made a scapegoat by AP when his best work would be in the second half of games he takes him off,

  • 250 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    For me Fellaini should have gotten 6 games.

    3 for he headbutt, 3 for the punch/palm in the face.

    The ref said he saw the punch/palm and disnt deam it worthy of a card co the FA couldn’t do anything.

    That’s a redicilous rule in my opinion. If its clear the ref made an error like that it should be overturned

    If the red gives a red and it’s deemed wrong it can be overturned. So no reason why the FA shouldn’t over rule the ref on this

  • 251 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    Ibiza

    I definitely haven’t read his contract heheheh.
    He’s been very secretive towards me hahahah.

  • 252 bro56 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    advanced talks my arse. Pards said last year he and his scouts had identified the players needed to take the club forward and Mike would back him. now hes admitting it was a failure. Now hes saying one player in?? we need at least 3.

    we’ll get to the last week and nowt will happen..

  • 253 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    Ibiza
    I suppose that makes up for a few games. :)

    Santon03
    So you want Santon as a RWB? Who would play LWB?
    How would we play 3 CB’s when we only have 3? What if one gets injured?
    It’s an idea but I don’t think we have the players to utilise it.
    You’ve also got to take into account our squad has probably never played anything like that before apart from Santon maybe so they would struggle to play a system like that for the first few weeks which is something we can’t afford to do.

  • 254 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    Santon….Hardly sounds fair. I’ll recommend the same as I did to Jesper, seek couples therapy :)

    Talking of Jesper…where is the good man? I imagine getting a break from this asylum, hope it’s not too long.

    Come back Jesper, we’ll play nicer!

  • 255 9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    I don’t really understand why our top goalscorer wasn’t signed away last summer, given the clause in his contract. I fully expected him to be snapped up, and I assumed our owner had bunged him enough wonga to make it better for him financially to stay. But now here comes January and the identical situation. He’s still scoring goals (unlike anybody else on the books) and is still keeping fit for every single game (unlike many of our top players) and the clause is still in his contract. So, I expect him to go. But it didn’t happen in summer and nothing else has changed, so who knows? With our abysmal run of form, and our appalling level of football in most of our matches this season, it’s obvious fans are unhappy, but the delusional talk about Ashley “taking out” of the club financially ( do these people understand anything about money?) and sacking Pardew (5th in the league last season, completely surpassing every single human beings’ expectation; Manager of the Year; 8 year contract – stability=success) it would be good for some people to take a deep breath before repesting their prejudices. Our season so far has been dire. Everybody who watches us ought to know why – apart for HBA and Demba Ba, ALL our stars have lost form. Form is temporary. Last season, virtually every shot Cisse had went in the back of the net, even including the extremely imprbable Chelsea goal. This season, so far, virtually every shot he has misses. Look at last Saturday. It will come back. Our form must improve. We clearly need signings, as we all knew last summer, but the man has his financial limits and is quite correct. part for mega-billionaires (with whom nobody else can compete) every owner will be taking our owner’s line, PDQ.

    So, I’ll be sorry to lose our top scorer, but I know our manager and owner are the right types. Long ago it became obvious, NUFC will be in one hell of a better place when the present owner sells, than we were when he bought. Pity people can’t appreciate that.

  • 256 9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    Rant over.

  • 257 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    Blaydon

    You are right, not any player can play as sweeper and definitely need practice and tactical knowledge. Sweeper/ Libero is not popular among English managers. Usually DM can play as sweeper like DeRossi and Cambiaso, I think Colo and Perch can play that role.
    We do need RB and at least 2 CB or another LB and push SAnton to play as LW.

  • 258 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    Super…Joking aside, 3 games is BS and that’s not just because his first game is against us. If the FA want some credibility back they need to find a better way to deal with these issues. People would find these things easier to accept if there was some sort of consistency. Madness.

  • 259 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Sage
    It’s the FA, it’s all corrupt. As are UEFA and FIFA.
    They do this to back up the referees and not to make them look bad, it’s a stupid rule but nothing will be done about it in the near future.

  • 260 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8341347/A-host-of-Premier-League-clubs-are-chasing-Dutch-international-Stefan-De-Vrij

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8341579/Premier-League-chairman-approaching-consensus-on-financial-regulations

  • 261 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    Super

    same stuffs I said to Blaydon :P

  • 262 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    Where is Jesper?
    Next thing his name will be : Jesper-back by popular demand LOL

  • 263 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    Super

    Yeh they all protect their own.

    What I meant was I don’t get how they “undermine” the ref by removing a red card if its incorrectly given but they won’t give a red card if the red says it wasn’t.

    Surely if the red can’t see Fellaini punching shawcross is a red card he should be sacked an deemed not fit to ref a Sunday league game

  • 264 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM

    Ibiza
    I don’t think they care about credibility. They still get their pay cheque and probably have some randometer machine which decides punishments. The even worse thing about that is that it wouldn’t surprise me if the FA did have something like that. :neutral:

  • 265 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    Santon….Who would put something so silly after their name? :)

    Not sure, he came under a lot of questioning on here the other day, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s taking a few days away to get some peace.

    Thinking about it, I think he made one post yesterday, so we don’t need to send the search parties out quite yet.

    I imagine if someone started singing some Lionel Richie he would magically appear, sadly I don’t know enough Lionel (Sad in that it’s needed for the exercise, not the

  • 266 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:05 PM

    cont…(thanks enter button)….not knowing of his songs – that’s excellent imo.

  • 267 Beattie25 // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    11 years ago this evening we beat Arsenal 3-1 at Highbury and after the 3 points Newcastle were top of the leauge.

    Those were the days.

  • 268 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    Fellani’s ban should be overturned. He’s in my fantasy football team.

  • 269 OhSholaAmeobi // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    Kets

    M’biwa would cost £8m+, he signed a new contract and he’s class. Douglas is doable at about £2m, strong but not the quickest. Alderweireld (£5m+) is pretty much the opposite.

  • 270 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    Super…You’re right, they don’t care. It really is backwards, how they can expect to be listened to as enforcers of rules in football, yet act as they do. Baffling, but what are we going to do?

    Start a riot!

  • 271 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    He should be given 50 points for the headbutt alone..

  • 272 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    Belfast…You should be overturned.

    Beattie…What is this mythical land you’ve created? Highbury? Top of the league? Having “days”?

  • 273 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    Tempted to go to game Saturday for QPR … Anyone want to sponsor the lucky mascot ? Working night this wee so would mean finishing at 5/6 in the morning 5 hour drive but would mean lucky mascot at the game will let you my fellow Toonie bloggers decide – madness I know but feel my presence at game will guarantee a point and more likely 3 ! Cost to me not much sleep 11 hour round trip and probably £150 poorer …

  • 274 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    Hmmm… Lionel Richie, is Jesper a pretty girl?
    I only know “Easy” thanks to Faith No More. I will sing it if Jesper is a pretty girl LOL

  • 275 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    Shut it Ibiza or I’ll send you a virus.

  • 276 OhSholaAmeobi // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    With the talk about sissoko, it would be good to raid toulouse.

    Abdennour – 23 – CB/LB – strong, composed, good passer.
    Capoue – 24 – CB/CM – all round beast, above but better.
    Aurier – 19 – RB/LB – quick, strong, good crosser.
    Tabanou – 23 – LM/LB – great crosser/set piece taker.
    Sissoko – CM/AM – decent passer, drives forward.
    Ben Yedder – CF/LM – good header, pacy.

  • 277 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Sage
    Read my post at 263.

    Beattie
    They were the days. Robert won a penalty in the last few minutes and then scored one to seal it from the same position he was in for the 2nd goal before being fouled. We then won 4-3 at Leeds from 3-1 down a few days later. Solano scoring at the death.

    Ibiza
    While we’re at it we should storm into Ashley’s house demanding him to spend money while we hold Llambias as a hostage. That’ll teach ‘em.

  • 278 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    why not get Zambrotta, he is free. Although he is old (35), he still can do better job than our current RB. Have lots of experience which can help young players up their game.

  • 279 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    Santon….To be honest I’ve never pictured Jesper as a pretty girl or any type of girl, but out of interest to see if it works, yes, Jesper is one good looking girl mate, serenade her ;)

    Blaydon….I’m thinking forget incoming players, you’re the priority purchase for Ashley and we don’t have to wait until January. It’s the quickest and easiest way to save our season.

  • 280 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    Super

    Don’t have post numbers on mobile site so not sure which one

  • 281 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    Well Ibiza I’m putting it out there and I’m available for a snip bargin a steal at a mere 1 million Ashley looses that in an hour at the casino !

  • 282 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    It’s quite ironic how the headbutt was against Stoke. I’m not saying I condone it any way. But of all teams for it to happen to it would be Stoke considering all the sly elbows and grabbing players they get away with.

  • 283 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Ibiza

    I better stop talking about jesper as a girl, I’m starting to get an image of jesper as ladyboy.

  • 284 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Belfast….You are a virus. If the world does end later this week, we’ll all know who or what it was.

    Super…. Or maybe break into his fridge, eat half his food and leave a note warning him to fire Llambias and buy some players or we’re coming back for the rest of it. In these dark times we must go for the jugular!

  • 285 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    Sage-

    Ibiza
    I don’t think they care about credibility. They still get their pay cheque and probably have some randometer machine which decides punishments. The even worse thing about that is that it wouldn’t surprise me if the FA did have something like that. :neutral:

  • 286 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    Sorry but suggesting we buy any 35 yo defender is just saying…stuff.

  • 287 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    Blaydon…Bargain. It’s all sorted then. I can relax.

    “E-i-e-i-e-i-o, Up the premier league we go”

    Santon…Not sure we’re going the right way about getting Jesper back on the blog. Back to the drawing board, calling him a girl or ladyboy strangely hasn’t worked…. :)

  • 288 Graeme // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    Super Mag – holding Lame arse as a Hostage?? Who the hell would pay ransom to get him back?? You will be stuck feeding the mongrel until you gave up and sent him packing; would cost you a fortune lol

  • 289 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    Ibiza
    That will destroy him. Make sure to raid the cupboards just to make sure.

  • 290 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    In all seriousness anyone of our doth based fans want to travel up sat I will drive ? Come on pick up anywhere from Ipswich a1 ?

  • 291 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Super

    If only they did have a randometer….it would be fairer than let’s give decisions in favour of the club we like over the club we don’t.

    For all stoke are physical the FA and refs treat them extra harshly.

    They just look at the two teams involved and whichever one is ‘bigger’ or more liked gets the decision in their favour.

  • 292 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:32 PM

    Doth – South based fans

  • 293 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    Blaydon….How south can you go? :)

    Super….And at last a plan even greater than the “5 year plan” – muhahahaha (evil laugh, in case that wasn’t clear).

  • 294 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Sage
    Very true.

    Graeme
    Don’t forget the food. We will make him eat it in front of Ashley. Ashley will give in and only then will he understand what we have suffered. We have been starved of money and players, now is the time for this to end.

  • 295 nufcursed // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    i’m here to discuss our so beloved scout graham carr.
    many adore him for finding great talents, but i’m very sceptic about this.
    what REAL talents did he discover??in fact, all of his signings look very poor to me.
    obertan, marveaux, amalfitano, … who has actually been a true star player?
    also if ba leaves we’ll be in serious trouble.
    pardew hasn’t got the tactical skills for a premier league manager!
    chris hughton is a far better manager than pardew, one who actually lets his team pass a ball instead of playing long balls all the time.
    newcastle are turning into stoke city and that’s very worrying…

  • 296 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Ibiza – the E-I-O song will be the only vocal option soon.

    I was wondering if the Ba song will ring out at the QPR game?

    Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba,
    Demba Demba Ba Demba Ba! – Humbug!

    Needs a bit of polishing there…

  • 297 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Well no further than I am now and don’t believe there is a tunnel to Ibiza unless they put one in recently without my knowledge !

  • 298 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Angelo Ogbonna (24) currently with Torino and Italy national team. Big, strong, and has a good pace.

  • 299 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Ibiza
    It has only just begun… ( Even eviler laugh)

  • 300 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Graeme….We’re going to hit him just before Christmas. He wont risk loosing out on his turkey dinner….no chance. It’s foolproof. Can’t believe it’s taken us this long.

    Next up, getting rid of that damn Pardew.

    Williamson we’re just going to have put down, poor fella’s suffered enough.

    Disclaimer – Tis all in jest at this festive time of year – ho ho ho and all that.

  • 301 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Nufccursed are you missing Tiote Cabaye Cisse Santon from your who has Carr unearthed list ?

  • 302 Santon03 // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we get Ogbonna, I never expected that we could bring Santon.
    Maybe Santon can promote good things about NUFC other than how we play football.

  • 303 JAMSHA // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    hi m 301

  • 304 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    Cursed
    Obertan was signed by Pardew. Marveaux has not really had a chance to shine. He’s looked impressive when I’ve saw him play. It was obvious that Amalifitano was going to be squad player, nobody expected him to be setting the league alight.

  • 305 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Cursed….Maybe hyped a bit, I think a big factor is the financial element of these purchases. Also, we haven’t real had a chance to see what young players he can bring in to the mix. That will take some time.

    Tsunki….How about “Things, can only get better” – Don’t be so negative, there are always plenty of songs to sing!

    Blaydon…Oh right, I see. Not worth that little bit of effort. That’s fine, now I know where I stand.

    Super….Tonight Newcaslte, tomorrow the world!

    And on that well balanced and neutral comment, I am off.

    Enjoy your evenings ladies and gentleman.

  • 306 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    so who will be happy with a draw v QPR,,?

  • 307 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Ibiza- I have not been around to significantly enter the debate on Beatties’s Armageddon. Not having taken any radical or indeed any departure from my often stated position I have nothing to add. Other than i continue to keep an open mind. Whereas Beattie has undergone
    a sea change in his thinking. His much heralded departure ( hence Drama Queen tag) on the 31st August was counted down by him daily and on a par with the countdown to the millenium. To turn up 31/2 months later with a trumpeted view today showing a radical departure from his earlier spouted position. He told us he was leaving the blog because Ashley had not dug deep to bring in players the manager had sought. He owes us an explanation. Managers are judged on results. They are also judged on how much they’ve spent in the transfer market and on how successful their buys have been. Dalglish was sacked as much for the heavy expenditure as poor performances. Pardew has been highly successful as has Carr in forays into the market. Our results to date have been indifferent but there is little real depth in the squad which allied to injuries and a lack of support from MA and DL as the poll indicated suggests it’s not Pardew’s fault. He does take some responsibility as do the players. In the anti camp views are clearly stated and understood. Transfer. Sage has stated that he will be re-evaluating at the end of the season . However, unlike Beattie lacks credibility in my view and just cannot be taken seriously – if he ever was! I always had him down as a fickle flip flop fan. I can live with even Catchy because I know what he stands for. I am not suggesting you ( Ibiza) misrepresented my position.

  • 308 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Catchy just watching PL review on sky and QPR looked decent Tarabt is going to cause us problems think we should stick Perch on him follow him everywhere niggle away at him as he is their major threat … In answer to your Q a draw is a minimum requirement 3 points is must really defeat would be catastrophic !

  • 309 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Catchy – We will win convincingly. It’s written in the stars, mate.!

  • 310 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Ian

    Do you class me as being in the anti pardew camp?

    And as a person who flip flops his opinion? Or was that Beattie you meant.

  • 311 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    Catchy

    Has to be a win for me. No reason we shouldn’t beat them.

    Players like taarabt are vastly over rated. He never did anything that really impressed me in the last game. The odd good moment of skill but nothin Ben arfa doesn’t do with his eyes shut

  • 312 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    arrr thanks ian

    im touched

    lmao

  • 313 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    I really couldn’t care if Ba goes, the only bad thing will be the price, if Ba goes i reckon Cisse will hit form again, Ba is a twat, i’d rather have Remy he’s more exciting too, ba is just a big lazy black lump. MA better get his money out this transfer window, we need another striker, and i’d say 2 deffenders. I ‘d like Debuchy too, we could have a brilliant team when everyone is fit and we have a few more players, we could still get up with the big boys where we belong.

  • 314 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    We can’t afford to not beat QPR on Saturday. It’s a game we should be winning even if they won last week. If we don’t we may find ourselves in the bottom 3 come the new year.

  • 315 nufcursed // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    mm still i think it’s time to sell tiote. we can get a lot of money for him now. i love his agression and commitment as a player but he takes too many yellow cards, commits too much fouls and gives away the ball too often.

    as for cissé: he’ s a great striker with his unpredictablity probably his biggest asset but he cannot pass a ball or play it on deck.

    as for cabaye: i’m still not convinced by him. not doubting his skills but sometimes he makes nasty fouls and that’s not something a true football player would do…

    as for santon: i think along with ba he’s been our best player this season. his attacking abilities as a full back our an asset any good team would benefit more from, he’s a future word class player in my opinion. also able to play with both feet which is rare for a full back

  • 316 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    Transfer- of course not . You. Don’t have a. Credibility problem. The word unlike should not have been there . I am not sitting in a swish office like you- LOL.

  • 317 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    player for player we should have more than enough to beat them
    home advantage too

    taarabt,, if im honest( pardwho impression) im not that impressed with him,, i watch him v fulham,, the boy has skill, but i think he could have and should have played cisse through a lot of times,, he is a greedy player,, and your right,, stick a player on him,, this is something i feel pardew wont do

    i fear harry has them on a roll,, there picking up points

    for me pardwho has to go out from the first minut like the man c game,

    this is a game where i feel nothing less than a win will do, as i think we have just about lost every 6 pointer with the teams down there which is not a good sign,,

    when your backed into a corner you have to come out fighting, this is what harry has done, and it is paying dividends for them

  • 318 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Ian

    If only I had a swish office…if settle for my own, basic office haha.

    What’s your view of the jan window? Optimistic or fearful?

  • 319 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Transfer – you are to date constant with your thinking I think. I hope all these signings-LOL are going to be in the early days of January.

  • 320 tequilamag // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Edmond .That “twat you refer to “lazy black lump” has consistently scored goals for us. If he goes we have to hope to that Cisse can step up his game and that is not a given

  • 321 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    EDMOND IS A FAT NO-GOOD RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Big lazy ***** lump” Bloody D*ck!!!

  • 322 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Catchy — know that you accept that I am not going to become one of your disciples we get on just fine!! Does that mean you don’t want to punch my lights out? Can I sleep easy and have no more cold sweats-LOL

  • 323 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Ba gets more exercise in 1 half of football than Edmond gets in his entire week!!! #noroom4racism

  • 324 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Tequila he is a twat, i used to think he was great, he is a good player, but im sick of him and all round i do believe cisse is a better player, he is playing awfull atm but he will come round, i don’t want Ba to go but if he did then so be it we can still score goals

  • 325 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    Edmund

    Like Ba or not is there any need for the racism?

  • 326 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    Im no racist, i don’t understand why saying the word black is racist, he is black. if he was fat i would call him fst, the fact is he is black and if you want to interpret my comment as racist you are very small minded. Oh and im not fat haha

  • 327 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Edmond
    A big lazy black lump? No, not racist all… :roll:

  • 328 woolerbill // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Belfast, you must be joking, Shaw Ross is a thug not a footballer. There is no football in him, that’s why he plays for stoke.

  • 329 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Edmund, the fact you stated his skin colour for no reason classifies you as at least an ignorant prick. You may not be racist, just a total bellend.

  • 330 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Transfer- I am hugely optimistic that MA will recognise that he needs to protect his investment. Pardew will fight his corner though I sense there is a recognition that money has to be spent to restructure the defence and Bring in another midfielder and forward . Think as many as 4. Also hope we will look at loan support if attractive.
    Bills-son- thanks for marking my card on Mac-Toon. He had been sniping for a while but only summoned up the courage directly when fuelled up. He’s just another vested interest!!

  • 331 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Seriously, you are all what is wrong with the world right now, why does anything someone says get jumped on by everybody, if it wasn’t for everyone else interpreting everything as racist we wouldn’t even have the problem of racism, im sick of it i didn’t call him a n***** did i or any other racist slang, so please shut up you clowns

  • 332 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Ignorant, shut up when all of you are calling Mike Ashley a fat prick every f******g day, seriously im no racist.

  • 333 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Edmond
    Don’t flatter yourself.

  • 334 roshan MAGPIE // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    if ba goes he goes he is not bigger than our club

    NUFC FOR LIFE

  • 335 tequilamag // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Edmond the uncalled for highlighting of his colour in conjunction with earlier using the pejorative word twat is bound to raise questions as to whether you are being racist..
    Even if your poor at choosing your words and are not racist it!s still a shabby way to talk about a Newcastle player who has scored a lot of goals for us.

  • 336 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    Edmund in the same breath racist or not, i do agree with you regarding that i will be pleased when Ba leaves, it will be good for the team overall when Cisse plays up top and some quick sharp striker plays in and around him, paired with benny in a fearsome top 3.

  • 337 toonicle // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    I’m starting to feel like selling Tiote might not be a terrible idea. Anita is proving more than capable of playing there, and if Pards keeps insisting on playing Guti then atleast put him as a DM and he’d do ok. We can get good money for Tiote and use it towards upgrading our back 4 which we all know we need, and pretty much the only area we don’t need to worry about depth is in midfield anyways. Tiote is a great player again he’s not irreplaceable and can end up being quite a liability with all the cards he draws.

  • 338 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    I can’t see why highlighting someone’s skin colour can be frowned upon? when you can highlight someone’s hair colour or the size of them, everybody’s equal so why should i be forced to treat people differently just because of the colour of their skin?

  • 339 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Toastie, yes i agree, i think Ba is a big weight on our shoulders all there is, is speculation of when he’s going to move, i’d like to see a bit of pace upfront too

  • 340 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    TRANSFER got a link to his sound cloud . his name is jack cameron he has about 6 tracks on sound cloud 3 he done himself and a couple he done with my other son ryan by the name of eastern duo, and another one he done the music for joka crow.

  • 341 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    Tequila- As ever the voice of reason. You sound like my father when I was growing up. ( That’s meant to be a compliment) ! – really!
    On Cisse it is by no means guaranteed he will merely replace Ba as our principle goalscorer. I hope were not reconciled to Ba moving on.

  • 342 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Edmund – well done you have won first prize in The ignorant bigoted stupid bellend competition.

    Congratulations.

  • 343 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    Anyway gotta go off to a local BNP meeting with my new pal Edmund.

  • 344 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    TRANSFER

    http://www.soundcloud.com/jack-cameron

    jack says hope you enjoy them

  • 345 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    Going in the bath actually to wash my slightly below avergage sized penis.

    Enjoy the craic

  • 346 Super Magpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    Edmond
    Yes, the word black is not racist I agree with. But it can be by the way you’ve used it. You’ve called Ba a big lazy black lump.
    To me, that is racist because of the way you’ve used it.

    I don’t see how you can call him a Tw@ either. I bet you’ve never met him before. He might be, I don’t know. But just because of this ongoing transfer speculation you are quick to assume things and vent your frustration on Ba because of it.

  • 347 tequilamag // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    Ian,It`s` looking more likely he will be on his way.
    I can understand people being unhappy that BA and Cisse can`t seem to make it work together .But I am a bit bemused as to why some people are so keen to see the back of the only player we have who looks like scoring.
    Cisse is capable of going on a good scoring run he just looks like he lacks confidence to me.

  • 348 bottle // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    Beattie

    point of information the 25 is your birthday (May isn’t it ?) and not the number of flies the giant killer swatted.

    After a reasonable spell of sensible and witty posts it’s a shame to see your reincarnated self reducing the 25 to being a number more like your IQ.

  • 349 MacToon // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Ha ha ok Ian, believe the ever reliable B-S who has had a constant habit of misquoting. I have remained steadfast in my views regarding Ashley for a number of years now and plenty of quotes from this blog to chose from.
    I’m glad I’ve made your list of undesirables. I do apologise though for my direct critisism of you the other night, I should not have done it. To clear it up though, my thoughts are along the line that you have some kind of agenda. You, your friend and/or brother?That’s all.

  • 350 Mister Tuff // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    Edmond.
    As someone with a bit of knowledge about such matters – I can tell you catergorically that if Demba Ba read your post and made a complaint to the police you would be arrested for a racially motivated offence. Ignorance is bliss.

  • 351 colwell // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Why shouldn’t a player that constantly scores even in poor teams want too better himself?

    Not one person on here if offered more money for the same job would refuse it. Footballs a short career make the most money whilst you can.

    Ba has done very well for us and I wish him the best where ever he ends up just dreading the day we read the same stories about Ben Arfa.

  • 352 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Edmund

    Using the word black isnt racist, it’s is a descriptive word which is fine.

    The context you used it in however is not acceptable, you may think he is a lazy lump but by referring to his skin colour as well you are implying that that it is linked, whether you intended it that way or not.

    Not going to carry this debate on, this is a football blog not a political one so lets carry on.

    You raise a valid point though that although Ba does a lot to help the club there is a debate whether he also hinders the side as a whole and if the good outweighs the bad.

  • 353 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    MacToon – I accept your apology. Can you explain the reference to agenda. You, your friend and/ or brother. I do come from a largish family but none of spouses post on here. They are not aware that I do!
    !! I am intrigued!

  • 354 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    Staurt

    Thanks for the link. I’ll have a listen and get back to you.

  • 355 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    Does anyone think that we’ll keep Ba and sign Remy? If anything, I’d rather see Tiote leave. We can then replace him with Sissoko and Diame. Debuchy and Alderewield should be our priority signings.

  • 356 Spreadthetoon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    Cannot make sense of half the stuff out today….

    AP states that he does not expect to sell any players….and then says if we do they will be replaced like for like……didn’t he say previously that 2 players would replace any 1st teamer…?!!

    Smells like shi*e to me…reckon AP, DL have tightened the purse strings….Sissoko, Remy, Douglas, Dubuchy…..I wish

    As for BA he’s shown his colors so IMO he can go…….really dislike disloyalty!

    Not expecting much this transfer window as was served such a massive disappointment from the last window…..so anything more than 0 players is a bonus.

    As for AP he’s walking on thin ice…..gotta beat QPR at home otherwise we are FUBAR’d for this season.

  • 357 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    MacToon – None of my brothers or sister or their other halves work for or ever have worked for Ashley if that’s what your getting at. I am in a completely different line of work to them as well – please explain?

  • 358 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    ian,,

    OC my child,, now you have seen the light lol

    i not bothered iether way,, we all love the club,, we all see the problems

    we all have different solutions

    some believe time will help him

    others like me believe he has had to much time

  • 359 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    Edmond- its because of the way you insulted him after implies that you were saying it in a violent way and therefore a racist way. If you had of just said he was black, it wouldn’t have made me believe you were not meaning it in an aggressive way. You made a racist comment and to make it worse, to a Newcastle player who has scored 11 goals this season and has been one of the few players who has performed this season. Even if he does leave, you still can’t use words like that and above all, we still have to respect t the lads footballing ability. It’s not his fault that he has a release clause in his contract, but he’s taking advantage of it and asking for more money, which I strongly disagree with.

  • 360 JP...from The Rock // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    Shearermania #2 – Some sense at last. Fickle indeed. The only complaint I have of Pardew this season is that he keeps playing with Gutierrez when he’s clearly not producing anything either in defense or attack. He should go with Marveaux who is finally showing signs of getting into the swing of things. His pace, technique and creative vision is what we need to unlock defenses and play that crucial pass to Ba and Cisse.

    Apart from that complaint, Pardew is doing the best he can and is totally the victim of his own success. The players need to start playing and stop pretending. In the second half against Man City you could tell that Pardew had motivated them during the break as we started to play like we did last season with silky pass and move play all over the field. Sadly it only lasted for a brief spell as the players gave into Man City’s class.

    Against QPR THE PLAYERS HAD BETTER PRODUCE the goods!-no excuses!

  • 361 MacToon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    I must admit i thought you had mentioned a brother on here the other day, I am obviously mistaken, I’m probably mistaken that you know Pushy too. You both have very similar posting styles and content.
    Believe me when I tell you there have been alot of comings and goings on here over the years, alot of characters, ego’s and trolls, it got so bad at one time Ed closed the posting side of the blog temporarily because of the amount of abuse on this site.
    Anyway, I’ve been here a while but seldom post nowadays but still try and keep up with it all.

    I chip in with a little food for thought sometimes, especially if i think something’s not right.

  • 362 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    Edmond- my question to you is this: if him being black is irrelevant to you, then why incorporate it into your insult of him as if it is a factor of why you dislike him? Lazy: that would be damaging to the therefore a credible reason why you would dislike a player. Black? Not so much.

    Same would go for hair colour or anything else, you are simply using it as irrelevant ammunition to throw at someone.

  • 363 pizzicatochan // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Kets, I actually agree with you this time if selling Tiote would give us at least 30M to spend, then we could have Remy, Sissoko, Douglas, Debuchy…

  • 364 pizzicatochan // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Wanna see racism in football? See Zenit St. Petersburg: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1268282/zenit-st.-petersburg-fans-demanding-all-white,-non-gay-team?cc=5901

  • 365 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Catchy— I will sleep easy tonight now that I do not have to take on the raging bull. As ever history will absolve me of any blame. I can walk with an extra spring in my step. I hate the sight of blood particularly my own. If we win on Saturday I promise I will not ask you to ” hang you head in shame”. Just out of interest I reckon your about 5′ 9″ and weigh around. 84 Kilograms.

  • 366 JP...from The Rock // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    No way would we get 30M for Tiote lol! The Carroll thing was a fluke, everyone knew he was well overpriced. After this season form Tiote has fallen in value dramatically and probably costs no more than 6M these days.

  • 367 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    well i will be very sad to see BA go,

    i think the only thing lacking was a good supply line for them both to work

    433 nearly always means 2 trying to feed one, normally you have 2 pacey players on each side,, pardew i feel has missied the point of it,,

    the 442 he has played is more like a lop sided version of it,, with both cisse and HBA taking up positions on the right side with no balance on the left

    i think it is very hard for any player to play at there best out of position

    i feel sorry for Ba , i feel he could be loved by A clubs fans, but he has an army of agents all wanting to get rich quick of him and when he leaves a club its always in bad taste

    having said that, you have to look at the ROLL dick head lambass played in this, once again he looked at things very cheaply, he only seemed to look at if things went wrong, and not if the player turned out to be a gem some where between that 7 million was agreed on, so we can have no complaints with the player

    but if pardew is in the market for remmy, id be playing cisse as the main man, build the team to supply him not Ba

    i think the word he keeps using is stabilty,, its not stable if your playing players you think or know will be off very soon
    im thinking ba and simpson

  • 368 MacToon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    TS, if you’re still around. You say you’ve heard stuff from the club about January and transfers, have you heard of any 1st team members wanting to leave in January and not just Ba as this is being quite well publicised atm?

  • 369 north_country_boy // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Krul
    Debuchy Douglas Coloccini Santon
    Sissoko
    Anita Cabaye
    Ben Arfa Cisse Remy

    Keep them fit and watch us climb the league – and then I woke up! : )

  • 370 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Stop playing detective Mactoon, you’re no good at it.

  • 371 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    We’ll probably just sign Moussa Sissoko. If we just sign one player, we should pay out quite a bit. I’d pay £8m plus for Alderewield.

  • 372 MacToon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    Ah Belfast, think we’re in for a bumpy ride!

  • 373 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    I don’t want us to lose Ba. He his been one of our best players this season. I’d rather keep Ba than replace him with Remy. We need another 2 strikers.What about Hernandez?

  • 374 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    MacToon- I am the youngest. A brother lives in London and I usually stay with him when watching away in the south. I have not met Pushy but I like his style,humour and vulnerability. He’s older than me, married with a son and follows the Toon home and away. I have always visualised him as a Boris Johnson type of character who loves people to underestimate him. I enjoy the anonymity of the blog and have loads of friends and associates but to my knowledge none of them post on here. I do not have an agenda. Hope this closes your potential conspiracy theory ( ies) . I want the same as you a return to winning ways. Enjoy.

  • 375 jimmysmith // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    The contract he was offered would make him comfortably among our highest earners, if it’s not enough for him and he can do better elsewhere then farewell and no hard feelings.

    We’re then clear to play Cisse down the middle and pursue a player like Remy.

    Whatever, the Toon roll on.

  • 376 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    mactoon

    Not heard anything about outgoings…other than arsenal have shown an interest in ben arfa but nowhere near a formal enquiry.

    I think Ba will be off but not even heard anything from the club about him being off.

  • 377 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    Mactoon
    No undesirables welcome..

  • 378 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    Ian Toon

    im 6ft 2 and 84 kg 39years old,, normally very fit, new job since may has me driving 2 hours to and from work, so gym life has been put on hold,,

    not sure where your from ,, but im from the felling went st edmund campion in wreckinton/springwell

    i would never hang my head in shame for having an opinion,, i would hang it if i kept changing my mind because that says you never know what you want

    my opinions on pardew will only change when he starts to play football with the team, and stop making up excuses and stop telling lies,, he is a guy that should hang his head in shame,, one min he says one thing and the next he does a 180 and says another

    i hate the way he comes out and says things to cover up the 2 above him, in doing so he falls into the trap of being called a puppet,, and im sure we dont want a puppet running our club

  • 379 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    BelfastMagpie

    do you get over to newcastle ?

  • 380 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    kets

    hernandez would be brilliant but not sure he would come.

    He wants regular football but we would be worth a shout, especially if ba went.

  • 381 pizzicatochan // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    Well, HBA + Remy + one forward (Cisse) would sound like the Marseille front. Would Cisse score more because of that?

  • 382 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    Any fans on here go to Toon home games that live down south interested in lift sharing to games let me know as want to get to more games but the cost is a major issue …

  • 383 bottle // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    Catchy

    But we’ve got a muppet who owns the club so what do you xpect ?

  • 384 MacToon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    Quite content as an undesirable and with glowing references from B-S.

    Next chance you get TS ask your friend about it, there’s been unrest since the summer and sounds like the $hit could hit the fan in January. I still live in hope though.
    Ben Arfa’s name hasn’t been one that I’ve heard from the summer or more recently but he deserves better in a way.

  • 385 jimmysmith // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Edmund, quite rightly can’t get away with that and quite rightly called out for it.

  • 386 toonicle // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    I think if Ba was gone and Cisse got to play up the middle on his own without having to worry about being dropped from the team he would quickly find his shooting boots again, and he seems like a good loyal NUFC player unlike Ba at the moment.

  • 387 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Q if we sell Ba and Remy does not come in who do you guys think we could get to fill the void … I have been impressed with Kone from Wigan ?

  • 388 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    bottle

    a muppet owner
    a gimp boy
    and a puppet

    sad times

  • 389 Jail for Ashley // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    For all the people having a go at Beattie 25 ,
    he contributes a lot more to the blog than a lot of people here and with a good sense of humour as well,he very rarely insults others unless someone resorts to insults first,we could do with more like him on this blog.

  • 390 catchy in norway // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    hey you mr

    i never insult first
    get angry, yeh maybe,, but never insult

    offer ppl out,, not really,, offer to meet yes :D

  • 391 pizzicatochan // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    Blaydon, I think if Remy didn’t come, that means Marveaux would still be around and he could be playing that position.

  • 392 mot7 // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    Get youself away then ba dont realy think your career is going to take off in london you greedy tw*t nufc here long before you and will still be here when your long forgoten

  • 393 pizzicatochan // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Actually, either Ba leaves or not, the problem is that Ba and Cisse can’t play together for sure.

  • 394 BelfastMagpie // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Catchy

    Used to get over a lot, not so much now. Been getting 2 days a week work at the most for the last 18 month, got two kids aswell now. So I cant afford it anymore.

    Gonna try and take the kids over after January hopefully.

  • 395 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Jail – see 306. Beattie has questions to answer. Unlike Catchy, Rotonda and indeed yourself etc who’s position has been constant . He has mad a sea change and as things stand cannot be taken seriously his conversion has not been explained. He lacks credibility. He’s been found guilty in the court of nufc. Humour s a very personal thing!!

  • 396 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    Made for mad

  • 397 Ian Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Catchy- as your out of condition maybe we should meet up in the car park. Only kidding. I am off to eat. See ya.

  • 398 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Stuart #349 – Had a quick listen – Took me back to my rave days haha

  • 399 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    For all we know Ba & Cisse could play well together but our current system just does not work. We have no link from midfield to up front and as soon as a ball goes anywhere near the goal both Dembas are so desperate to get involved they hinder eachother. IMO the solution is to have wingers that can beat a man and cross a ball which we do not have, or you play Ba on the wing (proven sucessfull) however he wants to play centrally and finally try putting Ben Arfa in the hole to link up play rather than the back 5 just hitting and hoping. But what do I know :)

  • 400 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Anyone else seen this. I would like to think that all things being equal (well the sheiks keeping their hands in their pockets) that our great club should punch at its correct weight in the future!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20773526

  • 401 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    stuart

    the music sounds good….not my favourite type of music to just sit and listen to but it is very good.

    I imagine it would be good when out in town.

  • 402 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    hotdog

    I saw that bbc article earlier….it is a total joke. Team like man utd and arsenal are always going to be in favour of this sort of rule…..it keeps the top clubs at the top and prevents others from challenging.

    If you can only spend what you bring in that season club will not progress.

    You will get clubs like us, spurs, etc pushing for top 4 if we invest well but there is no room for failure….one bad year, your income drops and you can’t spend much the following year without breaking the rules.

    Man utd make so much more therefore can spend more, stay on the top, earn more, spend more, pull further away…its a cycle which favours keeping the top teams at the top.

    I think the league is better for city and chelsea spending big to compete near the top. To improve any business (including a football team) you nearl always need to invest more than you make for a couple of years to get a solid base to develop from.

  • 403 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    Big Pappa – I dont think they can play together. They make very similar runs and are both what i call “up top” centre forwards. The only paring i can think that this actually worked with was Shearer & Ferdinand but i think you are talking about two exceptional strikers there. For me Pards needs to bench one of them depending on the oppo. For me Cisse plays if we are expecting to create a hatful of chances as he is the sniffer in the box and Ba plays if it is a cagey affair and we need to hold the ball up and feed back into midfield.

  • 404 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    TS – I think this is the first time i am going to disagree with you mate :-)

    As you say in any business you can only spend/invest what you generate. Clubs will still be able to challenge with good business models and luck. Look at Blackburn 20K crowds and Jack Walker bought the league for them. Man Utd buy the league but they generate that money themselves so can spend it. The day will come when they fall and cant invest as much as they do now but they deserve to be one of the biggest clubs in England as they have 75K fans watching them every week.

  • 405 bottle // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    JfA

    We are back to cocks with Beattie. It’s his friendly piece of Burnley colloquialism which has some inoffensive meaning and not what the rest of us think.

    There’s a lot of multi-faceted bloggers on here but Beattie has had yet another conversion on the road to SJP. Not the military road as that is just too straight

  • 406 eaststandgeordie1982 // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Right lads if there was one player you could bring back as a young un to play for us again who would it be????

    Peter beardsey for me he was a genius.

  • 407 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Probably not news really but its going around Twittington and ‘according to SSN’ Remy defo wants a prem move, likes NUFC, ‘nice club, nice big stadium, nice crowds, nice niceness etc’. I think he wants to play for Nice.

    Does this sound like the Debuchy saga or what? Save us please. Debuchy! Debuchy! That oh no not again….

    Just a word to Edmond – was that your first and last foray onto the blog? I hope it wasnt years in the planning mate ’cause you blew it ha ha. Rename imminent. You cant jam a guys colour in the midst of an insult as it patently becomes a descriptive component of the insult. Therefore racist. I hate the PC World thing, but that one is fair and square mate, out for a duck.

    Now what your should have said was ‘big lazy PURPLE lump’ and all would have been well. Although the ‘biggist’ and ‘lumpist’ chants would then probably have started. You cant win really.

  • 408 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    hotdog

    no business spends only what it makes….most business start off with a bank loan (or somebody invests or uses personal money) to get some capital in the business.

    taken to the extreme….how could you set a club up from scratch without putting personal money into it….you would need to buy a ground, players, staff, strips, equipment, training ground, etc…..you would need to invest your own money or a bank loan

    to a lesser extent how does a mid table team move up the league in this new model? you may improve by buying well but you will never catch the top 4 as the have your income, plus champs league money, plus money from a larger following (champs league teams will have better player, be more exciting, bigger crowds, bigger world wide following for merchandise etc).

    The new system introduced will only stretch the gap more between champions league sides and others.

  • 409 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    eastand- as I was reading your question I thought ‘Pedro’ and then came to your choice. Yep. jinky little magician. Oh, hang on, was that a heightist comment?

  • 410 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    eastend

    gazza for me

  • 411 eaststandgeordie1982 // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    Tsunki

    I think you mean ugly, little magician….. Oh hang on that was paul daniels , thats magic :-)

  • 412 eaststandgeordie1982 // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    Transfer

    Gazza was class but pedro is miles ahead for me.

  • 413 hotdog // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    TS – If the demand is there clubs can grow. Let the investment go into ground development for example. We cant have poxy teams like Wigan Blackburn getting a rich owner and blasting them to the top, it aint right.

    Anyhoo we will have to continue this chat later bud as im gonna watch ” A thousand words” with the family .
    TSUNKI – Very well put!
    “You cant jam a guys colour in the midst of an insult as it patently becomes a descriptive component of the insult”
    EASTEND – im with you, i have a signed england shirt from Mexico 86 hanging proudly – love the guy :-)

  • 414 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    Isnt that Beeb article pretty old stuff? it was Citeh and Mo ‘Thriller’ AlFayed that objected to FFP ages ago (obvious though wasnt it?).

    I cannot see how a line can be drawn where building a business in the traditional investment stage ends and a rich tycoons wasteful hobby begins. I think its a con for publicity purposes only. All the footballing bodies under the dark sinister cloak of FIFA just love the money that is generated in the game by profligate nouveau-riche braggarts. Almost as much as the undoubted bungs they hand out. FFP and any other ‘restrictions’ are a compete whitewash and sham. At first I thought it looked a good idea but then reality paid a call.

  • 415 eaststandgeordie1982 // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    Hotdog

    You lucky bar steward, i met him before a game got a signed pic with me him and my bro on the wall.

  • 416 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    hotdog – that is a nice shirt to have. I doff my cap to you, Sir.

  • 417 Tsunki // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:00 PM

    I’m a professional cynic but my hearts not in it.

    Got to go.

  • 418 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    tsunki

    I just find it funny how man utd complain city bought the title yet they have spent a fortune and near enough every player in their first team was bought and not developed.

    rio – 30mil
    rvp – 24
    carrick – 20mil
    valenica – 20mil
    nani – 15mil
    young – 18mil
    de gea – 20mil

    it’s insane when you think about it.

    Only one major team in world football has developed most of their players and thats barcelona

  • 419 bottle // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    Eastand

    Definitely the babe magnet for me too.
    And keep him on Tynesode this time as we would have won something if he’d stayed…with Waddle and Gazza too.

  • 420 eaststandgeordie1982 // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    Transfer

    Rooney £30m

  • 421 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    Remy and Hernandez would be good signings. We should also keep Ba and play players based on their performances. We could play this team:

    Krul

    Debuchy Alderewield Coloccini Santon

    Anita Sissoko

    Ben Arfa Cabaye Remy

    Hernandez/Ba/Cisse

    £6m for Hernandez should be good enough.

  • 422 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    Kets there is no way United would sell for £6 million try at lest double that for starters !

  • 423 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    I would also like to speak up for Beattie, the fellow although a little self consumed has a real feel for a footy player in my opinion, was spot on last year and actually in the summer when we failed to invest.

    Remember him rambling on insanely about Diame being on a free last year and we should sign him, clearly a good shout, the bot knows his apples about footy and a few on here should take note rather than just towing the party line.

    Pardrips bumchums on here make me puke, you know who you are…

  • 424 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    kets

    I think that would be a brilliant team…can’t see it happening though….and hernandez would be closer to 15-20 mil…madrid have been linked with him

  • 425 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    RVP, Nani and Valencia were signed at the right price. The others have underperformed. Don’t rate Carrick and Young. Ferdinand is past it.

    I still feel that our squad is nearly as good as Man U’s. We just need to sign some defenders and perform as a team.

  • 426 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    check

    if pardew got us playing some good stuff and up the league would you support him?

    i know its like saying if shola scored 20 a season would people ease up on him but i’m just wondering if you dont like his management or if you don’t like pardew the man?

  • 427 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    kets

    our squad isn’t as good as good as man utds at all.

    I will accept that we have some even players

    we have a better keeper but out of our back 4 only colo would have a chance to get in their side

    in midfield cabaye and ben arfa are better than what they have, and anita may prove to be better than carrick but it will take a good season to say that for sure

    strikers wise they have better in rvp and rooney but cisse and ba are good

    in terms of squad players….they have much more quality in reserve than us

  • 428 GeordieToon89 // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    Look at it this way Cisse is a better player without Ba, If we did lose Ba and signed Remy we would be so much stronger for it and I guarentee Cisse would be back scoring for fun with the immense service from wide, Remy and Benny would be swapping all day long and threading through balls for Cisse to smash home.. All I want come January is:
    Debuchy
    Remy
    and then perhaps a couple of others but not expensive ones

    ———Krul
    Debuchy-Taylor-Colo-Santon
    —Anita-Tiote-Cabaye
    –Ben Arfa-Cisse-Remy

  • 429 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    I’d like to apologise for my comment earlier, it were racist, i just didn’t mean it in that way, im not a racist, but i shouldn’t of said what i said.

  • 430 Transfer Sage // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    Edmond

    Good man, I’m sure you aren’t a racist and it was just a lack of thought in the initial comment.

    could tell from your follow up comments that you had no racial prejudice….good to have it cleared up

  • 431 check the toastie // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Nice one Edmund, takes a big man to admit he was wrong. Should be careful eh.

  • 432 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Yeah, i was just being stubborn, and i don’t want to have a bad name

  • 433 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    Anita’s miles ahead of Carrick. I’d take Kagawa and Van Persie from Man Utd. Rafael is better than Simpson, but they’e both poor. Vidic is too injury prone. Santon is just as good as Evra. If we signed Debuchy, Alderwerield and Remy, we’d have a much better side than Man Utd. Chelsea and City have the strongest squads.

  • 434 stuart no9 // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    transfer —- thanks for that mate,!

  • 435 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    Kets, yeas Newcastle may have that of an even squad but look at Man Uniteds depth, we would have a brilliant starting 11, but behind that not much to back up up, they have many decent players, you didn’t mention Rooney? Hernandez?

  • 436 Edmond // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM

    Also, Young , Valencia, Nani? Newcastle need a lot of work to be par with the very top teams

  • 437 toonicle // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    Sounds like most on the blog here are feeling like it might be better if Ba leaves then? Get a good striker who can play on the left wing seems a much better option.

  • 438 Jail for Ashley // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

    On the subject of colour predujice,does anybody else think that Dirk Llambias rant on who is purple and who doesn’t qualify as purple has had an impact on squad morale.

  • 439 bottle // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

    edmond

    the game needs to clean up big time but you have to start with honesty so well done

  • 440 Black and White with an army lol // Dec 18, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    cashley 5 year plan announced for Newcastle.

    Premier league
    Championship league
    league 1
    league 2
    Blue bet square

    LOL.

  • 441 HullMag6 // Dec 18, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    East….

    shhhheeeaaasrrreeeerrrrrr……

  • 442 nufc 11 // Dec 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    To replace Ba with Remy is a joke Remy has one goal all season in a very poor league and Ba is belting them in weeek after week in EPL surely not fit to lace Ba boots yet were giving 12plus are we mad in the head or back to the freddy sheperard days of old panic buying to please the fans becoz the team arent cuttinh it or the manager has lost his way and cant see the wood for the threes yet he was given a new 8year deal something smells fishy to say the least.




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