No More Contract Offers To Demba Ba – Period


It seems Newcastle have made their last and final offer to Demba Ba, and as January approaches we can only hold our breath that no club comes in and meets the £7M release clause, but it now seems completely out of Newcastle’s hands.

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Demba Ba – no more offers from Newcastle

We had hoped that Newcastle would make one last final improved offer in an attempt to get the striker to sign a long term contract, especially with the team perilously positioned in the league table at the moment, and things could get even worse after our next four games at home to QPR, away at Old Trafford and the Emirates and at home to Everton.

How the mighty have fallen.

The last offer Newcastle put on the table put Ba on a par with the money Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini is getting on Tyneside – and the Senegal man can take it or leave it – and it seems he will leave it.

And the speculation is that he could well leave next month if a club meets the £7M release clause in his contract, and one thing seems certain – we are going to have another circus in January just like we had in June and July.

But there have been recent reports that with the agents fees and extras included, the total deal could cost the club twice the release clause amount, and you add to that the high wage demands of Ba’s agents, and it could be an expensive deal for any club wanting to take Ba from Newcastle.

The news coming out of St. James’ Park is that both Derek Llambias and Alan Pardew remain fairly confident that Ba will still be on Newcastle’s books come February, but that hasn’t stopped them from being in advanced talks with Marseilles about signing Loic Remy.

But the move for Remy may be completely independent of Demba Ba’s situation, since we have only three experienced strikers at the club, and Shola Ameobi may be playing for Nigeria in the African Cup Of nations.

But Ba’s unwillingness to sign a new deal will see him become a free agent in 18 months, if he doesn’t leave us before that time.

It’s hardly a good situation Newcastle are in right now with their top goals-scorer – and it doesn’t seem like Ba has much loyalty either.

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442 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #1

    Ba should have passed more rather than taking shots against city. not 1ce did he come close

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  • shearermania

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #2

    come on for gods sake,,,cut the man some slack…
    he took us to fifth last season and now hes rubbish…soo fickle..
    true players like simmo, willo, raylor probably played out of their skins last season and cant produce it again..top that with dip in form off tiote, jonas, collo …injuries to cabaye, taylor we would always have a struggle on our hands….
    we didnt strenghten in january, we got cocky…thats all! b the football has been appalling but its getting better, i can see us having a good second half….
    but come on last season pardew was the messiah now hes the villain….try to lay some blame on the players – they are the ones who arent producing…you can put cisse, ba right, left or centre but if theres no supply theres no end product..the board made big mistakes thinking they could walk it but i believe in pardew…i believe in stability – hes just a victim of his own success last season.

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  • Beattie25

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #3

    The dominoes have started to fall.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #4

    Indian…He must have come close at least once or he has scored one of the most bizarre goals in history.

    Ed…Why does it seem we’ve made our last offer? Think I may have missed something or is it a case of it seems over?

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  • Beattie25

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #5

    Shearermania

    You protect Pardew like he done nothing wrong and ask us to aim abuse at the players?

    How can you sit there and absolve Pardew of all blame when he is an equal part of our downfall?

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  • boater

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #6

    Desperately hope Ba stays – he’s been consistently scoring in an pretty abject team this season. But if you’re losing every week it’s just a matter of time before the big cheeses want a move to a bigger bread bap.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #7

    Ibiza

    All i am talking about the log range shooting against City

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  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #8

    I he goes he goes.

    He seems the type to be a journey man, not a one club man. Get as many goals out of him while we can.

    If he leaves I won’t be too disappointed as long as he is replaced. A big ask for Ashley as he cannot leave us with just 1 striker and shola.

    I expect a few deals in January so hopefully we will do well.

    Now is the best time for Ba to move from his own view point, has a release clause, available cheap which is rare for a good goalscorer in January and he has scored a lot this season so might manage to get that extra 20/30k he seems to be chasing.

    Fair play if he goes, we have a wage structure I am happy with (as do spurs which is one reason they lose their top players) but unlike us spurs reinvest that money plus a little extra.

    Ashley need to back the manager with money, not silly amounts but a fair amount

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  • Mister Tuff

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #9

    There is no way on earth that Newcastle should state they need 3-4 players. Announcing publicly how many players are needed would have an adverse impact on the dressing room morale and increase the relegation jitters.
    I still think there will be several purchases – at least three with the potential of a higher quality surprise purchase.

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  • Lee Dodd

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #11

    Demba is Playing The Carroll Game here. Either Pay me or I am off . Carroll Got the Helicopter Ride Straight to Liverpool. Ba will Get The Same to London if he doesnt shut up. We took Him When Stoke Wouldn’t. He gets the fans on his side then says Arsenal are better etc well go There Demba Let them pay for your Knee Operations in the Years to come as that is what will happen with you. Lets Get Remmy and Carroll and Debouchey. and with The Europa and The FA cup.. We Are NEWCASTLE UNITED !!!!!!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #12

    Mister…That’s my thinking or hope.

    Indian…I see. If we’re talking long distance shots, then yes, complete waste of time.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #13

    I’m seriously worried about Saturday. I’ve seen QPR a few times this season and they have looked quite useful. Our back four worry me and I mean the back four as a unit not just one or two individuals. They aren’t a cohesive unit and they’re all making mistakes.
    I’m not bothered how we play as long as we win.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #14

    If it’s true that Pards went to PR media training then he want’s his money back,he won me over last year not with his personality or style of play but the ability to grind out results but with every passing press conference or interview some of his comments boil my fu££ing pi$$,he just sounds like a lying snivelling cnut underdirect control of his puppet masters.

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  • Beattie25

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #15

    Mister Tuff

    On the contrary. If Pardew came out and said ‘we need more cover and more quality because some areas of the team lack competition. We will have the investment and we will be looking at signing 3 or 4 big players to come in and put pressure on those players guaranteed a start. There is no way Ashley will let us be relegated again.’

    Then surely that would give some a kick up the arse and the fans a little confidence to turn up on Saturday and cheer on the team.

    for me its one gaff after another as you kick the shit out of fans confidence.

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  • WWYCD

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #16

    Gutted to lose him but if he wants out he wants out. Don’t know where he’ll go but good luck to him.

    We need investment, Pardew needs backing, the players need to be shown we are willing to improve and the fans need some good will…putting a lot of hope into a window which we have been told we don’t do business in christ its going to be a long season

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  • TorqToon

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #17

    This could be the time to step away from the blog for today. Not sure what people get out of bashing Pards all the time. But each to their own. Just glad the supporters at SJP are always vocal and behind the lads ! Lets hope the club don’t read this blog as some of the doom mongerring is crazy ! We are Newcastle United – not man Utd / Chelsea or Citeh !! Everything takes time and those who bash Pards now – we very quiet last season! Don’t forget it was until the last 7 games we really pushed on for Europe ! There’s plenty of time to turn things around and as long as Pards gets the financial backing he needs – I 100% believe we will do just that!

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  • shearermania

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #18

    beattie 25
    of course you can blame pardew too…he hasnt done brilliantly either but to want him sacked its a downward step in my book….he steadied the ship, gave us a winning formula which has been challenged this year yes but we were all happy to finish 10th last year and came up only a whisker away from the promised land….
    all im saying is give credit where its due and try to be loyal when the ship gets a bit rocky…i have faith he will steer us on the right path again..

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  • Beattie25

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #19

    We learn from history that we do not learn from history.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #20

    There’s only one Chris Hughton.

    Puppet out.

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  • Alan Pardew

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #21

    Tbh I think Ba has been upsetting the dressing room for a while now, his nose got put out of joint last season, and he doesn’t like it again this season.
    There is no communication with Cisse on the pitch and yet Cisse is capable of getting more goals than Ba.
    Ba thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere?? let him go let his weak knees be the responsibility of another club, I’m not saying Ba hasn’t been a good player for us far from it he’s been massive at times but like ALL players he’s not bigger than the club move him on and bring in Loic Remy, Dubuchy and Moussa Sissoko

    HWTL

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  • miggy

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #22

    a hope no one comes in for ba this window cos of his wage demands and then to turn our final offer down will make it easier for pardew to play him on the left n play cisse thru the middle no one wants u demba so u stuck with us so u play where ur told just a thought

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  • shearermania

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #23

    what i like most about pardew….he cares..you can tell and dont give me this “hes lying, hes a puppet, hes been instructed” the guy genuine cares and wants the best for us (the fans)..he got real passion and he can get the best out of the players (who can take a team consisting willo, perch, ameobi, simmo, obertan to fifth)…..still thinks hes the best that happened to our club in the ashley era…..and believe me he i had to be won over…..
    i had to eat humble pie last year and for that ill be forever behind him cause he was the manager who made me start dreaming again that we could win a trophy in my life time….

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  • nufc_eire

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #24

    Perfect window

    Ba (3m to QPR) for Remy (10m) = -7m
    Tiote (12m to Chelsea) for Sissoko (5m) = 7m
    Simpson (2m to anyone) for Debuchy (5m) = 3m
    A good CB = Rami (valencia are in big financial trouble so maybe 7m) or Douglas as the cheaper option.

    So we lose 3 but get 4 in. So for net 10m we get a quality first 11 and make sure we stay up. After the rotten xmas fixture list finishes we’ll prob be in a proper relegation battle so we need this kind of overhaul. Although that means they may not come……Anyway this leaves us with

    Krul
    Debuchy – Rami – Coloccini – Santon
    Anita – Sissoko – Cabaye
    Remy – Cisse – Ben Arfa

    And we can work on back up players in the summer!!

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  • spitfire_

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #25

    Pardew first confess that they made a mistake last summer… then they will learn from it… which is nice but… How exactly you can convince me that they learning from past mistakes if you said that you will bring ONE player in when the team struggling but last summer you try to bring three players Debuchy, Douglas and De Jong? How’s goin this sh!t?

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  • Alan Pardew

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #26

    miggy,
    why have him upsetting the dressing room any longer?

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  • wynsleap

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #27

    Beattie -Your right.
    History is, by its nature, consigned to the dustbin. Problem is we keep recycling it!

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  • Lee Dodd

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #28

    By By Ba Ba Hope You Have Fun On The Bench at Arsenal .

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  • Mister Tuff

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #29

    Beattie @15.
    Trouble is -going public as you suggest -the players who are “wanting” currently know there are no alternative players to claim their first team places – so any threats would probably be viewed as hollow.
    It is one of those situations I would describe as 50/50 – your suggested method might work but if it did not the situation would be much more difficult to recover from. A manager who really knows the players would chose the correct method.

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  • Beattie25

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #30

    Shearermania

    I think that the whole of nufc is in crisis and it is unfair to blame one man, but I will always believe that we can do and should do better than Alan. I’ve felt that for a long time and doubt we can achieve anyting substantial under his stewardship.

    To sack him would be pointless as I don’t think Ashley would have the balls to go out and pay big money for a top manager and back that man to make this club great again. So sacking Pardew would be daft as we’d end up with another 2 faced gambling addict who only wants to be best mates with Fat Mike.

    There is a black hole within the NUFC swallowing everything in sight. The club cannot escape the pull of the even horizon and looking at the boardrooom, the management team, the first team (minus a few purples), the u21’s and the u18’s you can see that we are going to be swallowed up pretty soon unless the magnectic pull of the entire nufc supporters base can rip this club back from the jaws of infinite nothingness.

    To me though a lot of fans have thrown in the towel, others are being manipulated and cannot or will not see the truth, many are blindsided by their rage and anger and so point aimlessly at whatever problem they can think of.

    I though believe I have the answer. We need to turn up every week and support the team, shout thier names out at every opportunity and ensure we let them know we are behind them. But we need to take down this house of cards.

    If you start at the bottom the whole pile will fall, so you start at the very top. We must unite against Ashley and force this monster to sell at a loss. Take of the top card and the tower shall come down without falling.

    I’m talking graffiti on Sports direct signs in the ground, banners, flags, marches, blanket bans on buying NUFC merchandise, turning your backs on the chairman at half time, protests etc…

    It can be done, peacefully and with the right person spearheading it all we could be united again.

    (I am not that person but would follow them).

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  • beefman13

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #31

    Beattie, you absoloute tool.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #32

    Shearermania @23 – a very passionate post from the heart. Like you Percy Parsnip has me dreaming about the future (relegation battle).

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  • beefman13

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #33

    Beattie, Are you for real lad, you selfish selfish pathetic little man, marches, merchendise, banners, my god i thought JFA was a knacka.

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  • Krul to be Kind

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #34

    NUFC Eire

    morning fellow countryman!

    I was just talking about Ramis to a few pals yesterday, quality player and off the radar can’t see it happening though but good call all the same!

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  • shearermania

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #35

    yes beattie and then we will join the list of portsmouth and leeds….thats the worst effing sh!t i heeard for a long time….how old are you? jeez i dont even bother anymore….go give your head a shake

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  • Beattie25

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #36

    Mister Tuff

    Do you mean like at the end of last season when Pardew said he wanted Cabayes friend and an 8 goal a season CB.

    Would you give that as a reason as to why Simpson and Williamson are playing poorer than usual?

    I’m not for highlighting specifics, but the whole world knows what we need, and what we are desperate for.

    Pardew can keep quiet all he wants to but who is he kidding?

    People know what you want for Christmas and you can say ‘I only need socks’ but you cannot avoid the fact you need underpants, deodorants, hair gel and a one direction calendar too and every fcuker knows that.

    It’s pointless hoping that Pardew is manipulating the footballing universe into thinking we dont need more players.

    Can you really see for example Remy turning up on January 1st and then NUFC making a bid for Debuchy for £4 million and the chairman of Lille saying ‘zut a lor, hang on a minute, they said they only wanted 1 player. may wee, i’m so shocked that they bidded for Debuchy that I have to say yes.’

    Who the hell is he trying to convince and what is achievable by saying this one in none out?

    Better to say ‘some have 4 games to save their NUFC futures before the window opens’.

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  • stuart no9

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #37

    BA has never struck me as being the loyal type.
    in interviews he never committed himself as to where he would love to play in future,ie he never committed himself to NUFC. Then you have his agents, who are more ruthless than wonga, we took him on when no one would touch him with the proverbial barge pole,now that he is confident again in his ability, and other clubs are more sure about him now, he could be off. this dosnt surprise me at all, as istill believe we are a stepping stone club for anyone with talent,or coming from another country wanting to try their luck in england ,nufc are the perfect shop window.

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  • Mumbai Mag

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #38

    Getting Remy will solve one problem. It wont be of any help to the more glaring problems at the back.

    We need a commanding figure at CB who cannot just defend but can also score with headers from set pieces.
    Our game right now is based on getting the ball to the wide men & putting in hopeful crosses. Most of the times theres barely 2 players in the box which makes it look even worse. Everything comes in from Santon & Guti. If Ben Arfa is not playing our right wing is as good as non-existent.

    We are poor on set pieces too. Dont score anywhere near as enough goals from corners. What we really need is a Kompany-type tall, strong CB who can actually score a few headers. Colo & Saylor atleast do their defensive bit well. Willo does neither.

    If we’re lucky enuf to get a couple of players through the door, I’d be delighted if it were Remy & Douglas.

    Then I wouldn’t care even if Ba left.

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  • shearermania

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #39

    @mister tuff…
    i bet last sseason you had the picture of pardew hanging on your bedroom wall just above your bed lying there thinking of him being the most fantastic man in the world while enjoying an intimate moment with yourself every night……but i get it i have been a teenager once..we fall in love, then we move on…
    but some of us still remembers fat sam, souness and jfk and what we got at the moment is a hell of an upgrade compared to them!

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  • Beattie25

    Dec 18, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #40

    Mock me all you want to.

    It’s not the first time I’ve been abused on here, nor will it be the last.

    We will never achieve anything without investment, that is the modern game and in any sport you play to win.

    Ashley, unless he invests, will never do anything but take from us. He is taking from us everyday and unfortunately he will continue to turn over profits off the backs of working men and their families until he either wakes up and out cash into the club or is removed from the seat as owner.

    You people are the types that would cross a picket line in the time of a strike so I shall neither court your replies or find interest in your words.

    One things for sure, you’ll always want to read what I have to say because I’m a realist and I speak sense whether you want to agree with it or not.

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