It seems that in every transfer window, Demba Ba’s release clause will become active, so if for some reason he’s still at Newcastle in February, the release clause will again become active in the summer – is this a sorry state of affairs or is this a sorry state of affairs?
Alan Pardew – at his press conference
Alan Pardew talked about the Demba Ba situation in his press conference today, when he asked about the Senegal International:
“It’s unfortunate that the contract he has leaves open a lot of questions because we have this clause and every window that comes around, I have to answer the same questions.”
“It would be disappointing for him to leave in this window for this club and for his team-mates here, but the decision will be his, ultimately, because that clause is there.”
“The most important things we have got with Demba is he is someone who is a goalscorer and he is scoring goals, and that’s very, very important to a side.” “His commitment to and work-rate for the team, I don’t fault.”
The interview Ba gave recently to Canal+ came up in the press conference, and Alan Pardew said he had talked to Ba about it, and that his comments were misinterpreted when the translation was made into English – and Alan was satisfied that Demba Ba did nothing wrong and he would not be fined.
This is what Alan said about that interview:
“I have had to because it was quoted in England not correctly, and that’s unfair on Demba and unfair on us.” “There will be no disciplinary procedure against him. There was one procedural matter where he could have informed us and should have, really, but that’s neither here nor there.”
“The most important thing for me is that the content of that conversation was about trying to turn the situation around, like all of us.” “We are professional people, we want to win. That’s what we are paid for and I have got no problem with anything he said in that interview.”
Alan was more than down to earth in the news conference, and in a way it was refreshing that he accepted Newcastle were in a very bad situation currently – yes it’s doom and gloom he said – but he also said it’s up to himself, the coaches and of course the players to fight their way out of the mess we are in.
And Alan said the fight against relegation could well go on until May – when the season ends.
I hope he was saying that with tongue in cheek – but it didn’t look like it. 🙁
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100 comments so far
ToonBano
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Comment #1Here we go again…..
Rotonda heights
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:06 PM
Comment #2ruddy
gullit and dalglish both got us to 2 cup finals and got the boot the next season
breno95
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:07 PM
Comment #3Only remains a problem if Ba remains at NUFC under current contract Ed.
If and it’s a big if a new deal can be agreed then one has to assume that the powers that be will either :-
A) not have a release clause
Or
B) have a far larger release fee
Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:09 PM
Comment #4Toonbano…What do you mean? This is news to me like!
Ed….Can we get a new article up? Even if it’s a blank one 🙂
toonicle
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Comment #5Either sign him to a new contract without the clause or let him go in January. Seems like the only 2 good options, and I don’t see him signing a new contract sadly…
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Comment #6Repost
Rotonda
Alot of wigans injuries are fringe players 3 odd first team, our starting 11 maybe better but tgey lack the same quality of depth as we do plus we have europa
If the point was we have a better squad so should do better then why mention di matteo? Manager of one of the PL’s elite and expensivley assembled team and got them knocked out the group stage of the CL and was fading in form in the league who constantantly blamed fixture congestion and referee decisions!
He didnt get MK Dons promoted he got WBA promoted in second behind the toon 😉
Had a terrible run in the PL mist fans were glad to see the back of him
Laurent blanc would he even come here? And doesn’t he hate benny? Back from his days at lyon?(marseille?) gave him a chance to show he’d changed by including him in the euros then they had a bust up and benny didnt feature again
bambams
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:17 PM
Comment #7Does ba’s clause only apply to champions league clubs ?
I am sure it was written a cl club only had to bid the 7.5 mill but other clubs outside cl would have to match a valuation set by the club.
Anyone ? Have I got this wrong ?
Rotonda heights
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM
Comment #8I thought benny had issues with deschamps, not blanc.
After this season, last 3 games excepted, I think i would just take anyone who would just play football on the ground.
Ghost Of Catchy
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:23 PM
Comment #9Demba Ba will do whats right for Demba Ba, and so he should. I would do the same, and so would most of you lot.
ToonBano
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:24 PM
Comment #10Ibiza – I was just making reference to when Demba put those exacts words on his twitter regarding his never ending transfer stories a couple of weeks back.
I am sick to death of the whole thing. Back and forth, back and forth.
Jail for Ashley
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:24 PM
Comment #11I’m not sure what the clause is,but as we got him for free and are definitely not going to let him leave that way would it not be a good idea to offer him a big pay rise until the summer make him play on the left then get shot of him,but then if he is worried about not scoring in that position it will decrease his offers in the summer,the ball Im afraid is in his court.
Charlie in the Gallowgate
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:25 PM
Comment #12Ibiza
Last night they interviewed a reporter from the top French sports paper on the transfer of Remy and he said he was wanting a move and the president of Marseille the club as in England at the moment
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:26 PM
Comment #13Rotonda
He does have problems with deschamps but also with blanc, wor benny was a pain in the ars3 when in ligue 1
Thats your view on it fair enough, but me im happy to give who ever our manager is at least half a season and atleast take on board the factors surrounding the squad which aren’t necisseraly down to the manager
Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:37 PM
Comment #14Ooh a new new catchy
niafron
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:38 PM
Comment #15Bonsoir messieurs.
Here’s the rumour in France:
Ben arfa’s Circle of acquaintances established contact with a top 5 english club.
For a move next summer.
Shane
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:39 PM
Comment #16Gone are the days when many players chose loyalty and the faith shown in them by the club and fans over money.
It’s not a case of wanting away to win things otherwise he wouldn’t have mentioned Arsenal.
While you’re here I support you. When you ultimately choose to leave Demba just remember it was us, Newcastle United that gave you the chance and platform to reignite your potentially injury shattered career.
Super Magpie
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:43 PM
Comment #17So we have to put up with this again if he stays? We should sell him IMO. He clearly has bigger aspirations and his ‘people’ are causing too much of a stir. The speculation surroundings Ba’s future is starting to get irritating and could make way for a new player to fit into a better system.
If he does go; I thank him for his time here and the goals he has scored for us. But if him and his ‘people’ don’t want to be here because of money then it is best for both parties if he is sold.
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM
Comment #18Shane
A) his career didnt need igniting
B) it was west ham who gave him a chance not us we just signed a proven goal scorer on a free, he choose us over a couple of clubs
C) what loyalty from the club? Surely its only fair if want him to remove his clause then the club should remove the injury clause? And as for wages as striker of his calibre shoukd be getting about 60-70k if you believe the original reports he’s on about 30 with perfomance bonuses (which i’d inagine our goal bonuses possibly explaining why he was so fcuked off playing LW)
Magpies-till-d3ath
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:51 PM
Comment #19Charlie- what newspaper was it?
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:52 PM
Comment #20Niafron
Is that basically saying he’s instructed his agents to find a big move for him?
I was talking to torq toon earlier about cabella would be intrested to hear your opinion on the lad
JAMSHA
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:57 PM
Comment #21http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=q4R23vh9ZbM&fulldescription=1
newcastle fan.in.the music video :$
south coast toon
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Comment #22its no good having this every time atransfere window comes around, we are supossed to be biulding for the future you cant build a team around someone who might up and leave 2 days before end of transfere window, if he goes late in jan we have cisse, shola,ranger cambell,what happens if cisse gets injured or banned and shola the same, no it needs to be sorted,offer him the going rate if that aint good enough bye bye and replace
Scotty
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:06 PM
Comment #23Just sell him… If he was happy he’d sign a new deal to eradicate this clause. All this does is surround the club with negativity… Really bored with this now… Seriously, I’d sell him on 1st jan….
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Comment #24Toon bano
Just to counter the potential racism concern in the ukraine shown in panorama’s special
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/06/panorama-attacked-sensationalist-euro-2012-racism-claims
Jail for Ashley
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Comment #25Would the Europa league not be more interesting if the winners of each Europa group went into a last 32 of CL rather than vice versa.
Super Magpie
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:24 PM
Comment #26Jail
No, because we could then have the likes of Stoke and Fulham in the CL. The winner should get an automatic entry into the CL.
ToonBano
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:24 PM
Comment #27ToonArmyDownSouth – I have no doubt BBC made the reports as dramatic as they could and edited it up to the eyeballs.
But the facts are, the fans were doing what they were doing. That wasn’t fake. And it’s not like that stuff was just a one off that the BBC just happened to luckily capture.
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:25 PM
Comment #28JFA
Aye do think you should automatically qualify for CL if you win the EL
Readingmag
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Comment #29Oh face facts hes off…hate to say this but..
1. We got free \ on the cheap
2. If really wanted stay He could
3. I think Papa is a better player without him, and should to improved.
4. It must bring disruption to the other players
5. We can move on, at least the club, manger / board can plan for the future.
Jail for Ashley
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Comment #30Super magpie,
That’s assuming Stoke and Durham would win their respective groups,but I also think that under the current format the winner of the comp should get an automatic spot and the finalists a qualifying chance.
niafron
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Comment #31@TADS
Ben arfa do not have an agent. He just have a trusted advisor, a former sports journalist called Michel Ouazzine, who follow him since he’s a child.
He also got a representant in England, Simon Stainrod.
It’s probably one of them or maybe the both who are talking for him with other clubs. If there’s any discussion at all, sure…
Concerning Cabella:
An excellent player, and, in my opinion, the profile the team need to improve passing and technical skills.
colwell
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Comment #32This has too be the worst clause ever to put into a players contract, from day one he has been looking to move onto better things. At least have it come into play after three years etc.
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:29 PM
Comment #33Toon bano
Aye but in all honesty you get scenes like that all across europe, italy spain czech republic etc i dont think the issues are any stronger there like
But still no room for it in the game
Charlie in the Gallowgate
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM
Comment #34Magpies-till-d3ath
sorry to be so vague – not sure but he was speaking to the lads on Total Sport – Radio Newcastle Last Night
Scottiedog
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:31 PM
Comment #35I would now personally get Ba out of the squad completely until he makes his mind up – sign and play or go!! It is time to focus on Cisse and ply him up front as we really cannot count on Ba. Also if he is going is he really going to play at his best??
niafron
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:31 PM
Comment #36@TADS
Yes this is the rumour. This is about european football. Beny want to play the CPL, and he could feel it will never happen with NUFC.
One more time, this is JUST a rumour, what Beny really think, ain’t got a clue.
ToonBano
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Comment #37TADS – Oh aye, you get that stuff across the whole of eastern europe, spain & italy.
That stuff in Metalist was extreme like.
niafron
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:33 PM
Comment #38Got to go lads, bonne soirée messieurs.
toonarmydownsouth
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:33 PM
Comment #39Niafron
Ah cheers mate shame if true but wouldnt be suprised
On cabella thanks for that heard fantastic things about him and just sounds a truly fantastic player a bit like a young david silva in the making!
Jail for Ashley
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:34 PM
Comment #40Tads ,
Definitely,they have to do something to spruce it up as there is a lot of dross and to many games without sufficient financial reward,I also think that there should only be two teams from each country,there was a time when Id heard of pretty much every team playing in Europe and tbh when I heard we had Metals I said to my mate some Russian team.