Pardew – It’s Doom And Gloom – We’re Happy With That

Alan Pardew was invariably asked about the plight of Newcastle United at the moment, and Alan interrupted one reporter and made a rather tongue in cheek statement – at least we think it was tongue in cheek – we hope it was tongue in cheek.

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Alan Pardew – tongue in cheek statement?

Alan said the following when asked about Newcastle’s  status – and whether it was doom and gloom at the moment:

“No, it’s doom and gloom, we are happy with that, that’s where we are.” “We haven’t won enough games, we have got to start winning and we have got to start showing that we want to win.”

Since the terrible display at Southampton on 25th November – which happened to have been my birthday – Newcastle have played a lot better against Stoke, Wigan, Fulham and Manchester City, but we’ve still managed to puck up another three defeats in those four games – and a win against a 10 man Wigan side at St. James’ Park.

And that’s the only win we’ve had in the last 11 games since we thrashed West Brom 2-1 at home – well come to think of it – we did get that lucky Papiss Cisse winner three minutes into added time. 😀

Alan took complete responsibility for Newcastle’s plight yesterday, and when asked if tomorrow’s game against QPR was a must win game, he chided the reporters for always using that term – and said as far as he was concerned every game was a must win – and that Alan and the coaches plan every game so we can go out and try to win it.

The game at home to QPR is an important game and we think that if we don’t win – it’s another chance lost to get up the league table and give our players more confidence – and that’s especially true when we then have to travel to Manchester United on Wednesday and then to Arsenal the following Saturday.

Let is know how you think we’ll do tomorrow.

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23 comments so far

  • Colo-Sus

    Dec 21, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #1


    Previous Post re Remy:

    Thats not Remy

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #2


    previous post

    I think the performance bonus they have now is a tean thing. Like league position and win % of games etc…not based on individual performances.

    Thats what I have heard anyway, not a guarantee though.

  • hadthetshirt

    Dec 21, 2012 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #3

    The doom and gloom is created by you pardew.”we wuzz tired 2nd half”etc when you changed 9 players from thursday to sunday.Your constantly whinging on about europe.What do you think the players think hearing your bollocks.They tried hard to get into europe in first place only for you to play the reserves and whinge on about it.I hope santa brings you some cojones.The owner gave you an 8 year deal earn it.1 swallow does not make a summer.
    On the plus side Remy good start to the window if true.

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #4

    Has anyone seen the bbc question if the day…would a winter break be good for England.

    Simple answer – no

    Long answer – not at all, it hasn’t stopped English teams winning the champs league recent years and a lot of our aides make it to the latter stages. England are poor at international tournaments as our players are vastly over rated so we perform at the right level, just below what the media hype them up to do.

    It doesn’t bother the non English players in the prem league, they still do well for their countries.

  • Phatoon

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #5

    The guy (picture) in the last article was Remy….. William Remy from Dijon……

  • bills-son

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #6

    On Remy – he looks a real threat in the air and that’s something we don’t really have from Ba and Cisse. I know Ba has got a few with his head but it’s not a real strength of his. The other thing Remy has is pace and dribbling skills something else neither Ba or Cisse have – or Shola fore that matter. We are woefully short of pace in the side and if Remy lierally hits the floor running he could be a great buy.

    On Ba, as much as I’d like him to stay I hope he goes in January. We can’t have this ‘will he won’t he’ circus going on every window. The clause was right for both sides at the time but like most things it has eventually outseen its usefulness to one side – us. Thanks for the goals Demba but au revoir.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #7

    Hts ,
    Fair comment he has spent an awful lot of time making excuses this season which some of them haven’t washed with players fans or Journos .

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #8

    If Remy does come in and Ba leaves although he might add a different dimension to our style of play it still leaves us wofully short up top when the 31 year old Shola goes off to the ACON .

  • Phatoon

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #9

    TS – Totally agree. Never seems to cause trouble for foreign Premier League players.

    One thing I don’t like though, is the heavy fixture list at Christmas, then in Feb/March teams not in Cups have breaks that can be a few weeks. Mental!

  • rainrix

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #10

    Sage… Is that a supposed solution for the problems of the national team? If it is shock horror, some people (the media) seem to need a reason to rationalise our poor national showings, while ignoring the simple fact the players really aren’t that good/ don’t have the passion

  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #11

    Depending on how much our thrifty owner is willing to spend my xmas wishlist goes like this,Debuchy,Douglas and Pieters,I would be over the moon with this as I believe this as the area which needs improving most,too add Rely to that list while keeping Ba would just be too good to be true,this I think would cost 25M so probably won’t happen.

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #12


    It’s the second most annoying excuse for our national sides poor form.

    The first one is my view is when people blame a poor national side on too many foreign players in the premier league.

    That annoys me because we had a lot more English players in the league in the 70s and 80s and we were still useless then haha.

    The simple fact is we play a style of football that is weaker than other national sides. Our players don’t keep the ball well, that tires then out more than playing at Christmas.

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #13


    I would love those three defenders coming in, would be great. I expect 3-4 players coming in if what I am hearing is true mind you.

    But I from past experience I wouldn’t be shocked if we just signed remy and hoped that would solve all it problems. After all, it worked with cisse last year.

  • Tsunki

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #14

    There’s doom and gloom
    When things go Booom
    In Dexters Laaaaaaaab!

    Daaaa da da da da – da DAAAAH!

    I’ve had worse. Jan window only a week or so frenetic speculation, complaints controversy recriminations and Ketsy. Its gonna be good!

  • josh

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #15

    Just wanted to point out if anyone doesn’t already know, I just read that according to FIFA regulations, because Andy carrol has played for both liverfool and west ham this year. He can’t play for another club this season.

  • RonVanDam

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #16

    During this tough times, our captain should stand up and get the players motivated. Collo was in the last team that got relegated and needs to rally up the troops, get that fire we had last season back into the team. I remember when we played MU at old traford last season – Steven Taylor and co we throwing their bodies on the ball. We need to get that s.h.i.t back.

    Sorry for the rant guys, im just tired of reading about demba ba

  • Munster Mag

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #17

    I would assume from Pardew’s comments that Remy is in the bag now so good news. Billson I didnt realise that he was good in the air – dont know a lot about him to be honest. However we wont really progress until we have consistent investment and not the mess of last summer when so many on here were so wrong to be so smug. I am hoping that this move is signifying that Pradew wants to stick with 4-2-3-1 or similar which might help us retain the ball a bit more. He has been hugely disappointing in many aspects this season and it still begs the question as to what sort of process was used to choose him from other candidates. Or maybe Ashley just didnt bother his arse looking as broadly as possible? Either way we need urgent investment as Ashley badly failed that acid test in the summer, and the concern has to be that if we spend a few bob now, we wont see much in the summer again.

  • rainrix

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #18

    Sage… Its sad but true, even when our senior england players were on awesome form in the league (2005-2006) we were still poor at international level and the league was still full of foreigners. That excuse is incredibly annoying like you say.

    Fact is we aren’t producing good players, hell even chamberlain’s fallen by the wayside after a blistering start. I know its been discussed to death but england just don’t produce players technically skilled as countries like spain etc.

  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #19

    For the benefit of the Capt’n
    There will be a show tonight on trampoline
    The Lemon crew will all be there
    Late of Pablo Fanque’s Fair, what a scene
    Over men and horses hoops and garters
    Lastly through a hogshead of real fire!
    In this way the Capt’n will challenge the world!
    The celebrated Capt’n.
    Performs his feat on Saturday at Bishopsgate
    The Lemon crew will dance and sing
    As the Capt’n’s Kite flies through the ring don’t be late
    The Capt’n and his Lemon crew assure the public
    Their production will be second to none
    And of course ‘Ibizatoon’ dances the waltz-!
    The band begins at ten to six
    When the Capt’n performs his tricks without a sound
    And the Lemon crew will demonstrate
    Ten somersets he’ll undertake on solid ground
    Having been some days in preparation
    A splendid time is guaranteed for all
    And tonight the Capt’n is topping the bill-.

    Merry Christmas everyone! Will be back in the New Year 🙂

  • Munster Mag

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #20

    Transfer Sage, if we get 3 players but dont lose many, it would be a great boost and would many of us more faith in Ashley. its a pity about Marveaux. Nice player, maybe mot physical enough. Maybe a rushed buy from our so called amazing scouting set up?

  • Transfer Sage

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #21


    I think we are getting a bit better…chamberlain will come good I think, wilshire is agood player too (not as special as the media say though), then players like tom ince are coming through too.

    IT’s improving but until we get more clubs playing in a continental style or have more of our youngsters playing abroad we will struggle.

  • bills-son

    Dec 21, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #22

    Jail – I agree we need another striker if Ba goes – but we can only play two and Cisse and Ba clearly don’t work. Remy has played on the wings and he’ll run the channels all day, something neither Ba and Cisse are capable of doing or want to do. IMO Remy and Cisse will work far better than Ba and Cisse.

    For me the biggest problem this season hasn’t been injuries or Europe – all though both have had an effect – the biggest problem has been playing Ba through the middle and Cisse wide to keep Ba sweet. Cisse is a passenger out wide and we effectively play with 10 men. Too often we are left with just Ba for the midfield to find with a pass and its all too easy for the oppo to close him down leaving a hopeful punt as the only passing option.

    I said in the summer that I hoped Pardew hadn’t keep Ba on side by promising him he wouldn’t play wide in a 433. I believe Pardew did promise him that and it has been a massive mistake and comprimised team selection. Ba of course is happy – he’s got 10 goals in less than half a season compared to the 1 he got in the second half of last season. Thats put him right back in the driving seat to get the big money move he wants – and we are 5th bottom of the Prem.

    Like I said in my last post, I hope Ba goes. IMO it will be for the benefit of the team. I know it depends on Remy and Cisse quickly finding form but if I was in Pardew’s position I wouldn’t want the Ba situation to continue. Pardew is in a corner and he needs to get out of it. If Ba stays and Remy comes, Pardew has to play Ba and Remy or Cisse and Remy – not Ba and Cisse.

  • LargeSadMenace

    Dec 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #23

    How can it possibly be progressive to get rid of a proven goalscorer and replace him with an unproven player like Remy. He may ‘look like’ a good player but Ba has shown he can produce the goods even in a team completely void of creativity. Ba is keeping up with the best PL strikers, and out scoring many more yet his wages are less than half of some of these strikers. If the issue is that we aren’t offering him enough money, which looks the most likely case then I don’t see how we can blame Demba. His attitude is no differrent to any other modern succesful footballer and perhaps he looks at the comparitively poor offer on the table here at NUFC combined with the consistent lack of investment and maybe he feels disheartened at the lack of ambition shown by our owner. This could be the case for many of our underperforming players this season, for one Cabaye has been reported as disappointed with the lack of incoming players in the summer. It must be demoralising for our players to hear the same inconsistent rubbush coming from Pardews mouth as we do with regards to transfers, the rubbish which is a direct result of a lack of clarity from our owner with regards to his intentions with our club.


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