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Nigeria FF Threaten Newcastle Over Shola Ameobi

5:59 pm, Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 238 Comments

As we expected, things are heating up over Shola Ameobi’s availability for the African Cup of Nations next month – after Alan Pardew said he would not be going to South Africa for the tournament.

shola ameobi great shot

Shola Ameobi - battle going over this player

The latest news is that the Nigerian coach  Stephen Keshi spoke to the player last night, and apparently there is a clause in Shola’s contract which complicates things.

This is what Keshi told MTNFootball:

“I spoke with Shola Ameobi last night and he said his coach did not speak with him even before going to the press.”  “But apparently, there is a clause he signed in his contract two years ago that he would not dump the team for the Nations Cup. And that is what his coach is holding on to right now.”

“But Shola has said he would speak with the coach after their game today (Wednesday) against Manchester United and get back to me.”  “I must confess that with this latest revelation from Shola we are in a tight corner more so that the club is uncertain of the future of Demba Ba.”

Nigeria Football Federation board member Chris Green says that Nigeria will take all the steps they can to ensure that Shola Ameobi is in South Africa next month, and Green had this to say to the BBC:

“These clubs are not only disrespecting Nigeria but FIFA and CAF (Confederation of African Football) as well.” “The rules are clear on international games approved by FIFA so we consider these comments (by Newcastle and Millwall) as not only ridiculous but totally disrespectful.

“We know the rules. FIFA has made it clear that these clubs will not be able to use these players for the duration of the Nations Cup plus an additional five days.

“We will further push for additional sanctions – we understand these clubs employ our players but they are also international footballers. Rules are rules. Newcastle and Millwall must understand the basics why they exist.”

Milwall is mentioned there because Danny Shittu’s club are also resisting their player participating in the tournament.

On Newcastle’s side of things the AFCON takes place every two years, and because they have changed from an even year to odd years – this is the third AFCON in four years, and the second in successive years.

Given that the tournament comes right in the middle of the European football season, this is a terrible thing for clubs to have to manage for.

That’s the case for all European clubs with top African players  and the least the African Nations should do is to have this tournament only every four years – as happens with the European Championships.

But Newcastle are unlikely to win this one.

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238 responses so far ↓

  • 1 DarloGeordie // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Well played lads was great to watch in a bar full of the Manc firm….

    Shola should be allowed to play for his country and mike Ashley should basically keel over and die

    Goodnight from bangkok

  • 2 roshan MAGPIE // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    any update on anita

  • 3 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    Let him go and sign Remy. Do not sell Marveaux.

  • 4 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    nigerian FA is completely right and just here with their comments

  • 5 Novocastrian66 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Will the FA sort that prick out? I won’t hold my breath. Would like to know about his thoughts about that tackle on Anita.
    The man is an embarrassment. Will the FA stand up to him? It’s gone on too long. What he did before the start of the second half was premeditated and not a spur if the moment reaction. He should be banned for 6 games in my opinion.

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Catchy
    You are a treacherous bastard .

  • 7 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    mister tuff, last thread

    on sammy – sorry, but there is no excuse. there’s no second gear from him and it was shameful while the rest of our lot were immense. He won’t cut it at this level anyway. waste of a spot on the bench

  • 8 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    FFS!

    The whole world of football is out to get us this season.

  • 9 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Jasper – Hopefully not but when the tackle went in i didnt jump out of my seat wanting blood. How many did? or was it when the stretcher went on!

    I admire the postive outlook from the posts on here, there were plenty with Bigi Marveaux and Cisse finish. However we really need to wake up and not settle for second best or we always will be. I will hopefully have time to see us win something but my father and his mates aint got forever and they are even more fuming than me with our shocking defensive buys over the years.

  • 10 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    @kets

    I don’t understand why you continue to post on here? nobody takes you seriously or actually listens to anything you say

    Im sure you said Marveaux was better than David Silva the other day, now your saying we have better players than Man U, come on mate, give it a rest

  • 11 greg // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Danny Simpson is the worst player in the game!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cross the ball to the crowd
    Cover the offside
    Mispass

    Replace him in Jan please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 12 Grafton83 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    I thought Shola was a Geordie, how long did he actually even live in Nigeria for?

    It’s also quite ridiculous that this is going to be the 3rd ACON in 4 years. They’re taking the pi$$ and I bet they’re making a lot of money from it all at the expense of club sides who have tor release players.

    I stopped supporting England my own country a long time ago, when it’s represented by the likes of John Terry and Ashley Cole it just doesn’t seem right.

    I’ll still follow the team but I wouldn’t say I’m a supporter, I don’t attend the games and I don’t buy the merchandise. International football is nowhere near as entertaining as club football for me it’s an unwelcome distraction every time. The clubs should have more power and if the players really want to go they should forfeit their club salary.

  • 13 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    think these twats need to realise International football is dead, and that it has insuperior values (to club football) for alot of players and fans

  • 14 magpie6699 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    Positives – 3 goals, Cisse scores, Perchinho scores, Marveaux excellent again. We are playing better now than we were a month ago and we still have Benny, Cabaye and Saylor to come back.
    Negatives – we lost to Manure – jammy again, Fergie is a disgrace to football – no comparison to Sir Bobby, Anita’s injury.
    I will take far more positives than negatives – we were being predicted for a hammering today on a lot of sites – and that didn’t happen.

  • 15 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    At the rate players keep getting injured we need to keep as many bodies as possible IMO unless Ashley backs Pardew in Jan

  • 16 Spreadthetoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    hotdog
    I knew that was a bad tackle on Vurnon straightaway….

    Btw we had 11 shots on target away @ OT, that’s pretty good and more than Manure by 1. We bossed that game through several periods…..not sure who our defensive coach is….is it Stone…..I don’t know who it is but they need help or should be fired cos’ the amount of goals we have conceded this season is not funny.
    Confident if we play week in week out like that and shore up our defense in the window with some quality, along with CAM and Winger/Striker (like Remy) then she’ll be good!

  • 17 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Finally someone else who has spotted the difference between the two teams today – Danny Simpson. I am not calling him Simmo any more because quite frankly he could not have done much more to help his (former) team mates. Previously i have stuck up for him defensively though critical of his upfield rubbish, but today he was a complete array of wastefulness, lousy shots and crosses (dont bother with the thing that was deflected for an OG he could do nothing worse with his attempt) and his shape when he took that ‘shot’ in the dying seconds of the game told the whole story. Oh, sorry it didn’t, it was the attempt to signal an offside against hernandez when he had already clearly sent him through. Yes Danny, you lost us that one.

    I want him gone, Catchy-style. And no I am not kidding, this is area of improvement #1 for me now. But for Simpson we would at least have deserved a point. Everyone else was excellent and gave the lie to the rubbish about poor team spirit. Hats off to Pardew for the way he set his stall out today. The positive is that if we play like that against Arsenal we will stuff them. Yeah, Really. I am just hoping that Anita will not prove to be the big loss, and that Jonas will be able to come back firing again.

  • 18 nick_9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    Sad to see us drop to 15th in the league after such a game. Also hope Anita is ok, he has come on lots and has been consistently performing for us for the past five/six games. Anita, marveaux and hba would tear teams to pieces.

    Not keen on how much power these national teams have. If a player doesn’t want to play then respect his wishes, we wouldn’t want a player playing for us if he doesn’t want to. Sadly it appears that Shola did want to go and Pardeq has stopped him, this is a real shame when they have the power to ban him from any football for the duration of the competition plus longer. Whoever made the decision to stop him from going clearly had no
    Knowledge of that so it was a silly decision as we will be without him now anyway and for longer.

  • 19 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    We do have better players than Man Utd, and it showed today. It was just defensive mistakes by the usual suspects that cost us the game. Williamson and Simpson were both at fault for all 4 goals.

  • 20 Belize Toon // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    magpie6699 – completely agree that there were so many positives to take out of it but very worried about Anita and no points! We all know that red nose is a male reproductive organ and the reds are lucky but i am still fuming – just had an interesting conversation with a man utd fan!

  • 21 Toon1978 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    How did Valencia get away with that foul????? Ohh hanf on, he plays for Man Utd.

  • 22 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Rotonda

    Yeah, I wouldn’t say we ‘deserved to win’, since I usually think that’s a load of rubbish anyway. But if we’d won or drawn, Manchester United couldn’t really have felt hard done by.

    Agree about Sammy. I’m really really disappointed by him and I don’t think he’ll ever make it at this level.

    When I saw the team sheet I was worried by the midfield 3, as it looked fairly defensive – but Perch, Bigi and Anita took it in turns to burst into the box all game. Cabaye, Tiote and Jonas could learn one hell of a lot from watching the movement and enthusiasm and energy of those 3 and Marveaux.

  • 23 ba humbug // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Tsunki

    Simmo is a journeyman player and will never rise above the average. Don’t blame him for being average – blame the owner for not signing a better player. Same goes for Willo. We need two defenders and have done for two years.

  • 24 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    ———————–Krul———————-

    Simpson–Williamson—-Coloccini–Santon

    —————-Tiote—Bigirimana—————
    ——————-Marveaux——————-

    Obertan————Cisse——————-Ba

    This simply HAS to be the team against Arsenal.

  • 25 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Marveaux would easily get in Man Utd’s side based on ability. Scholes is too old. Carrick is very poor. Anderson is poor. Cleverly isn’t better. Valencia is their best midfielder, but Marveaux is still better. Giggs in past it.

    I’d take Vidic, Evra and Van Persie from Man Utd. However, all of them are getting on, so we’d probably be able to get younger players at better value (i.e. Remy, Toby A and Debuchy).

    We still need Sissoko or M’Vila as Tiote is going to the ACON. Williamson and Simpson can go and James Perch can be utilised as a right-back and centre back.

    We miss Saylor and particularly Raylor whom is one of the best fullbacks at the club.

  • 26 daztoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    See Fergie said that Ba was offside and pulled back Evans for the own goal should have to specksavers

  • 27 Spreadthetoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Any decision taken by AP should be in consultation with Ameobi before speaking to the press……really hope this “article” is untrue cos if it is, it does not bode well for any of the parties involved!

    Kets / Tsunki

    You cannot say that Simpson / Willo were to blame for all the goals conceded today…..come up with stuff like that does not come across too well….they’re not the best agreed but until the board strengthen’……if they strengthen, then they’ve all we’ve got and they’re our players. Also the fact that we cannot defend or score a set piece means that there are failings with AP and the coaching staff….don’t see you guys complain much about ‘em. I am delighted with the spirit and the manner of our performance and gutted with the result……

  • 28 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    How do you think our quality players are feeling in that dressing room. They look around and see Danny Simpson (im with you Tsunki) and Williamson and know no matter what they do in a game, like score three goals, they know they are going to concede invariably every game and not just one but two or three. As for who is the defensive coach i really dont think it matters with that quality of player. Finally how bad have you gotta be that you get a break in the box and you are 10 yards from goal and you sky it 20 yards into the crowd, a pro footballer words fail me!

  • 29 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    Kets we do NOT have better players than Man U

    you are demented, they are top of the league for a reason

    Just because we played well againt them today does not mean we have better players

  • 30 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    Carrick is very poor! Anderson is poor! Cleverly is poor!

    You don’t watch football properly fella

  • 31 Kyo // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    http://i.imgur.com/hcQmL.png

  • 32 Spreadthetoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    The same players saw us with one of the best defensive records last year…..were ya whinging then! The reality is that there are areas where we need to improve……our coaching is not faultless on this one.

    Agreed we need a RB and CB …..but we all knew that last summer. Ask most peeps…they’ll tell you that Simpson / Willo would not be their 1st choice….but we do not have a choice……if you gonna blame someone blame MA/DL….not the players out on the pitch who have given it they’re all even if they are not the best!

  • 33 Cool Hand Luke // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    Kyo, pretty harsh, he was better today though, he beat his man a few times. just need the end product now.

  • 34 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    JFA

    hi

    :) idiot,, look at the team that played today,, how many other idiots like you said we were losing games because of a poor squad,
    today we lost because of a better team beat us, i can accept that
    what i carnt accept is the fact our season is over because of a prick who thought he new better (parsnip) we have so many points this season because of him and his negative football,,

    i can see no reason why we have not played like this more often this season,, it seems to have took player intervention for him to do it, is that who you want running things,, fans could see it, players could see it only one guy couldnt,

    been asking for jonas to be dropped all season, today marv got his game and took his chance with both hands,, is it fair that us as fans are being denied watching better football, because one guy has his fave players,,

    i think we have a good squad,, a top 8 squad, but 17 out of 19 matches we have played like a bottom 3 team, and i only see one guy who is to blame,, and i stick by what i say,, id be quite happy to lose every game to get a manager who can get this squad we have playing the football they can,,

    got to say i missed the second half but was very impressed with the first half, and it looked like it carried on into the second half

    i have no bones about saying well done to the team and pardew, the test is not can he rais the game v MAN u or MAN C
    he has to get them doing this V wigan or VILLA, or SOUTHAMPTON, these teams

    for me he has proved the players are following his tactics,, play long ball, they doo, pass the ball they doo,,

    why for 17 matches have we been so shit

  • 35 Cool Hand Luke // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Anyone know why Jonas was not in the squad?

    Also, I think the whole team was knackered 20 mins before the end, we were second to every ball.

  • 36 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    Danny Simpson needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He is a young guy and could easily work on his offensive game in training as he does have pace and crossing is schoolboy stuff. Then again he is probably happy being mediocre and more focused on that mong from the X Factor than his football career. Debuchy plays football on a whole other planet compared to Simpson. I am personally counting down the days on his contract and can’t wait to see the back of him.

  • 37 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    @Catchy

    There is a good chance Marveaux has not been fully match fit to play more games this season, could be a reason he hasn’t played more earlier, we will never know but his injury striken past can’t be ignored

    Why have we been shit for 17 matches, cos we suffered a bad patch possibly, Everton have done it many times, will it continue and happen often, only time will tell

  • 38 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    Even if we were winning 7-3 against Man Utd with 5 minutes to go, I’d still expect Man Utd to come back and win. We just can’t win at Old Trafford. Ashley needs to invest because we’re not far off at the moment.

  • 39 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    spreadthetoon @27 – er dont lump me in with Ketsy I thought Willo was good AGAIN today. My opinion is that Simpson was the difference between the two teams, the most consistently wasteful player over a whole match and at fault for trying to signal and produce an offside when the ball was already on its way. Poor defending by any accepted standard. I just think he doesnt do his primary job well enough especially not to justify his costly wasted play forward.

  • 40 TheToonKing // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    I think the Nigerian FA and national FA’s at that are bang out of order. The clubs are paying these players, they could loose millions and get relegated because they loose players to the damn international football.

    There should be some rule changing. Shola should just say he’s not going.

  • 41 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    Bloody disappointed
    played really well – results will turn.
    Pardew just been on local radio. Was not pleased with the defensive 5
    I thought Krul satruggled with two of the goals – should of got down to one and pushed the the shot for the third goal away harder.
    Hope Anitas OK t** Velencia should have book thrown at him along with Beetroot bounce Fergie.

  • 42 ba humbug // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    CATCHY

    is this the same guy who was hoping/predicting we’d get a 5-0 thrashing or another double ?

  • 43 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    spreadthetoon – Thats exactly who i blame but as i posted earlier we have never had a solid back four that looks like it can go away from home in front of 50-70,000 and say “thou shall not pass”. With the injuries Man u had that was a perfect opportunity to not only draw but beat them. The players and mangager knew it thats why they went for it. With every passing game the decision not to bring defenders in is a having a massive consequence on our season and good players!

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    I think we need to be fair to Wilo and Simmo as well – it might be the two areas we need to improve, but if we have to be a bit harsh Krul was at fault for their third goal and Colo called a our of this world offside when they scored their fourth goal.

    They might not be great and we definitely need to upgrade those positions, but they are not to blame for our lose today.

    Man Utd are very good at what they do – pilling pressure on the opposition in the last 10 min or so. We should have kept counter attacking, but I think we lost our breath?

  • 45 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    Catchy – that is not our first choice squad, and its not a great squad, the difference is attitude and closing down today. But now Anita could be out so the injury list negates your idea even further. Unlesswe get signings and some first teamers back soon our great ambition is to soar to mid-table.

  • 46 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    I must admit, it was extremely frustrating when Simpson did well to beat Evra and then kick the ball out of play for a goal kick. He is poor defensively as well. He always lets wingers get their crosses in the box.

    We may as well let him go for £2m and use that to pay for Sissoko. Signing Debuchy and Alderewield is a must. We also need a third striker to compete with Ba and Cisse.

  • 47 Rotonda heights // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    it’s frustrating to see such inadequates as simpson and willo when we played our best all season.

    We genuinely are those 2 positions away from having something a bit special if we played that adventurously
    every game.

  • 48 Spreadthetoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    just seen AP’s interview and he is not happy….and rightly so…..you score 3 at OT and yet cannot even get a draw! We’ve been leaking goals all season…..same personnel as last year…which was thin and needed strengthening…..we didn’t and so this is the result. Hopefully you, MA/DL have taken note so that we can add REAL quality in these areas and NOT more FRINGE players. If you do do this then we have a chance of staying up cos’ we played well going forward today, created a lot…….best performance this season!

  • 49 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    fray bentos //

    i dont think man u have a good team at all,, i think they have some very good players, not from from world class

    but sorry,
    giggs and scholes are well passed it
    de gea wouldnt get in many of the top 5 teams
    ferdinand well passed his best, smalling and evans could become good, but still very young
    van P up there with the very best in the prem
    valencia, is a good player as is carrick
    hernandez, one week good the next very poor

    this is the worst man u team ever, and if he leaves tis year, there gona have to spend millions to get it back to the top flight again

    2 fully fit squads
    id take krul colo santon HBA cabaye tiote anita over the equivelant players in man u

    the big difference is fergy,, best manager in the world

    takes no shit from any player,, always wins the fight, no player is to big,, he has got rid of some of the best players in the world, replaced with lesser, but gets them believing they are the best

  • 50 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    I totally agree. We are 2 positions off having a complete starting 11. We also need a third and fourth striker, a fourth choice centre back, a back-up left back and a decent right-winger (boudebouz).

    We can get away with just bringing in 4 players in January and signing Douglas and Boudebouz etc in the summer. Douglas will be available on a free and Boudebouz is valued at £5m

  • 51 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    @kets

    i think its generally impossible for full backs to not allow wingers to get crosses in, their not moving 50 foot high brick walls, their just human beings

  • 52 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Has to be said, as he never really gets any attention, Krul is looking distinctly average this season.

    I’m still sat here, intermittently pondering why the right side of our defence (Willo & Simmo) decided to play offside in the dying minutes, while our left side (Colo & Santon) went in the completely opposite direction and dropped off. :(

  • 53 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    fray bentos

    i dont by the fitness thing,, obertan has been out for 6 weeks,, got in first last week,
    if he wasnt fit, why would he risk him, he has been on the bench for weeks, getting only 10 mins here and there, yet he plays 90 today

  • 54 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    He is doing well to hide his anger here, no wonder
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20846945#asset

    Tsunki – On the fourth goal watch when Henandez recieves the ball and watch how far Williamson is awayfrom that area, which is where he should be. It is not just willo Colo is looking at the man with the ball without having a clue what is going on behind him and simmo mmmm i dont even care im sick of seeing rank bad defending – Rip it up and start again and quick.

  • 55 daztoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Great effort by the lads today.Has pardew finally seen sense or was it the row with Colo to attack more.still needs to play Cisse centre and just send Sammy on loan not good enough

  • 56 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    @Catchy

    Obertans body, injury and fitness could be completely different to Marveaux, im not a physio or a doctor so its difficult for me to comment but i doubt you are either so we both don’t know the full story and never will

  • 57 Toon1978 // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    A little harsh for Simpson to get stick. He played well but his crosses where terrible lol. Our defense cost us again. Both Willow AND Collo made bad mistakes. Overall we where excellent today but a lack of any ambition in the summer is costing us big time. SAFC are utter rubbish yet we are beneath them which is a hard one to swallow. We need half a dozen players in January and if the board think 1 or 2 is sufficient then they are deuding themselves.

  • 58 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Ruddiz…Colo called that offside – can’t just blame Wilo and Simmo for that!

  • 59 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    Tsunki

    yes yes now we have another injured player,, and im not talking about now,, yes it would have been great to have 2 or 3 more players in,

    im talking about from game one up to a few weeks ago,, but tho be fair to the players that came in to day. they put a shift in

    we have lost to many games because of how pardew has set the team up , defensivly,
    today must have opened the last few remaining jonas fans eyes as to how much we dont need him in the team and how much he DOES NOT BRING TO THE TEAM

  • 60 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    I reckon Colo reads this blog and has been listening to Catchy and relayed that to the manager – obviously.

    Colo – show yourself! Are you Kets you mad bast*rd!?

  • 61 Graeme // Dec 26, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    TTK @ 40 It has absolutely nothing to do with the FA here or in Nigeria. This is a FIFA sanctioned competition and as such any player selected HAS to be released, unless the player notifies them he doesn’t want to play, or he is injured.

  • 62 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Yeah, I agree that we have the better players. The difference is Sir Alex. His team always fights to the end. If Sir Alex took over QPR with their current squad, they’d be top of the league as well.

    Ferdinand, Giggs and Scholes used to be excellent players, but are now past it. Ashley Young is poor/average. Don’t rate Johnny Evans. Rafael is more mid-table type player. Evra is very good, but is getting on a bit. Evra used to excel at Monaco. Krul is better than D’Gea. Rooney was at his peak at the age of 18. Van Persie is class but is 29 (could be the next Berbatov). Carrick is a poor/average player. Fletcher is a mid-table player. Hernandez is a mid-table player. Anderson isn’t great.

    It’s amazing how 2 players can have a negative effect on the scoreline. For example, we could be winning 3-1 with Debuchy and Aldereweild having to come off for Simpson and Willo and then end up losing 4-3 due to silly errors.

  • 63 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    Jesper

    I wasn’t blaming anyone – collectively they’re to blame, lack of communication and they botched it. Although the safer option is just dealing with the blinking cross, not playing clever buggers in the last few minutes.

  • 64 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    @catchy

    You have just forgot to mention all their other quality players including Rooney

    I agree its probably one of the poorer Man U teams in recent years but its still much better than ours in terms of clinical world class quality and depth

    Ben Arfa, Krul and possibly Cabaye could get in their first team but thats it, but their quality of back up players is far superior to ours

  • 65 Spreadthetoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    Tsunki
    Apologies for putting you in the same context as Kets……but you were both having a gripe…that’s all. Personally I do not think Simmo is designed to go forward or leave our half…..doing so infringes his ability to defend which he can do….he’s just not a RWB. Simmo will be off I think this January….so I’d like to think we’ll sign someone who is of a similar quality to Santon.

    As for Willo….he’s not a 1st choice….but neither is Saylor….and he’s injury stricken each season. Ideally we’d sign two CB….personally I think Yanga Mbwia is a real possibility as he is versatile and can sit anywhere at the back.

    Hotdog
    Agreed, having a settled back 4 is critical….but note Krul did not have a great game…..should have saved 1 possibly 2 of the goals. Also I get really really nervous everytime he kicks the ball, we end up loosing possession……can only think he has no confidence to pass the ball to his fellow defenders!

  • 66 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    fray bentos

    no we never will

    but comon sense tells you that if a guy is injured , he is injured, regardless,
    obertan got back to training nearly 2 weeks ago,
    marv has been on the bench most of those games, and plays 90 mins today, in the sub games he played, he also looked quite busy suggesting he he was ready for a full game,,
    only pardew see other wise,,

    also

    it wasnt long ago you said we could not play the ball because of the players at the back we have,, they seem to be doing it now ok

  • 67 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    fray bentos

    i really think that colo is as good as vidic when he is fit and miles ahead of all the rest

    they dont have a defensive MF, tiote would walk into that team, i like carrick, but he is not an inforcer

    santon is as good as evra, and will only get better

  • 68 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Ruddiz…as I wrote earlier, Colo should never had taken a chance on an offside so late in a game and on a cross – Krul was left fully exposed.

    …but yes it is a collective responsibility!

    For most parts I am proud of the team and though Pardew was great today. If we were having a luck stream like last season we wouldn’t have lost today.

    That’s the difference between those teams at the top and those at the bottom :-)

  • 69 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    @catchy

    Yeah some of them were playing poor passes when being pressured by opponents and due to lack of options. So what? they are playing better now, yeah so? Don’t know what your getting at

  • 70 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Jeez, just watched the Pardew interview – he looks bloody haggard compared to the shiny, perky bloke he was when things were going well, last season.

  • 71 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    hotdog @54 – I dont wanna watch it and you cant make me! (sobs) . I hate the mackems.

    Catchy – ah that it was all as simple as changing a player to another to change everything. Do you really think that the difference today was swapping out Jonas, or that Jonas was tactically swapped out as part of a reshape and an entirely different approach to Man Utd’s threat? I dont think that if Jonas HAD to come on (injury anyone) the whole team performance would have fallen flat. He is not THAT bad! Even Jonas has commented that he has been played out of position all over midfield for months now, but its understandable given his defensive ability, the players he has had to cover, and the dross teams we have played. If we get another of your much-loved bad performances without Jonas, who will be the culprit then I wonder? Pardew again I suppose. It could be argued that with Jonas in there somewhere we may not have conceded all 4 goals. Cant prove otherwise.

  • 72 daztoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    We don`t just need a cb we need one that can read the game and Marshall the rest.

  • 73 archaeomag // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    @catchy

    Point of order; Obertan has been injured [toe], and has not been available, I think Jonas is carrying an injury; if you bring back a player layer back too quicky – you can set back recovery – look at Hatem.

    Oh and Villa are being stuffed – 4 down

  • 74 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Joe Blog

    i 100% think i could get more out of that squad than pardew,,
    and not only me, i think we its match day i see lots of pro pardew fans also picking teams , much like the ones i would pick,
    at least i dont contradict myself, i say it as i see it,, these guyas stick up for pardew then say if we only played him here, or if he played instead of him,, i dont hide these ppl are 2 faced by doing this,,

    you either back him , teams subs tactics press confrences or you dont,
    dont come on here and have a go at a guy for having an opinion, a one that is different, stick up for the guy then put a team out and say this is who id play F CRAZY

  • 75 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Rooney isn’t as good as he used to be, I’d rather have Ba and Cisse than him. They score more goals and that’s the most important thing. Rooney isn’t clinical enough. We could do with Bale, Vertonghen and Kyle Walker from Spurs, but they’d cost around £75m. We can get Debuchy, Alderewield, Sissoko and Remy for £24m instead,

  • 76 Spreadthetoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Reckon the defensive lads are in for a thrashing from AP after this result….reality is sign 2RBs and 2 CBs…..

  • 77 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Looks like it’s Villa’s turn to go down. I’d take Benteke, Bent and N’Zogbia from them.

  • 78 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    daztoon

    Marshall you say? I’m not sure he’s into football, although I do think he’s quite tall, but what use would him spitting rhymes at Santon achieve?

  • 79 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    archaeomag

    obertan is not my point,, the injury is

    i would not have obertan any where near the team, ever

  • 80 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    spreadthetoon – unfortunately 4 goals anywhere tells its own tale

  • 81 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Tsunki – Ive just watched the goals again i must be mad :-)

    OK im seriusly pi**ed off with our joke defenders again but im gonna go out on a postive. We seem to buying some top qulaity players that can play at the likes of old trafford. I though Anita and Santon were very good along with Marveaux. Now please all that run NUFC transfers forget about attacking players we have plenty, get 3 or 4 top defenders in our squad, im sure Mr Carr has them for you!

  • 82 ONLINE GUY // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Pardew was more Angry than I have ever seen him..he was seething in the bbc interview ..Wonder if he had a fight with fergie ..Fergie the hypocrite that is ..

    Valencia’s tackle on Anita needs investigating by the FA (HAHAHA) panel Thursday morning.. Disgrace ..It was pure malice in midfeild right at the end ..no need for it ..Anita had gave Man U the run around all game and nasty BAs**rd did not like it ..the attack on Anita was delibrate and pre-meditated.

    Alex Ferguson is a disgrace

    Something has to be done about him .

  • 83 obatoyou // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    funny, joked to me mate at half time, tottenham could go 5-0 up in the second half :)
    hope you all had a lovely Christmas, what a game it was tonight, watch out arsenal

  • 84 Tsunki // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    catchy – what does obertan need to do then? unreal.

  • 85 Marty-Toon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    Wasn’t only our defence that lacked today,
    For Evra’s goal did anyone see the effort BA made to stop the shot,pathetic.
    Sayls could teach some of these boys about puttin your body in there
    Colo was very annoyed with his team mates at the winner,he played really well I thought.
    I agree that Sammy just needs to go on loan,not good enough yet.
    Gets lost in games,amazing skill at times but we lack the maturity to hold onto the ball

  • 86 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    I think Obertan, despite it taking him 22 years(?), discovered he is left-footed today.

  • 87 daztoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Really missed S.Taylor today.

  • 88 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    @Catchy

    Just because they don’t have a player who is like Tiote doesn’t mean he would walk into their team, not all teams need to play with that type of player all the time, and if fletcher gets back to his best then he is proven at the highest level to be better than Tiote

    Santon could potentially be better than Evra, but he isn’t yet, Evra is a proven world class full back, Santon is not (yet)

    They have 2 forwards who are far better than ours in almost every way possible, and their 2 back up forwards are probably just as good as ours and arguably better

    Anderson is a quality player, Nani is also world class, just not doing it at the moment, Carrick is class, Cleverley is good and could be amazing

    As much as i like Colo, i don’t think he compares to Vidic, they have better players that can play RB and they have Ferdinand who is one of the best ball defenders ever, but maybe Colo would edge him out

    Kagawa is a class act and Giggs is still mint, i don’t care how old he is, based on his performances this season im not sure Cabaye wouuld get in their team

  • 89 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Tsunki

    who knows what would happen if any player plays instead of another one,,

    and losing 4 to man u is not the end of the world,, man u will be there at the end of the season, in the shake

    my point is, playing so many defensiv players v villa teams like that,, is jonas a plusin the team ???

  • 90 Spreadthetoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Tsunki
    Agreed, its inexcusable to concede 4, but overall the team played the best they have done so far this season….so I don’t wanna be all doom and gloom.

    If we play the way we did today, with the same passion and intensity and sign some TOP class quality at the back, especially CB then I can see us having a Jeckle and Hide season – one poor half and one truly fantastic half……all depends on AP/MA/DL….here’s for hoping anyway…gotta get some early Jan signings in week 1, no f’ing excuses and biting your fingernails on deadline day! Bring on the gooners – we’ll give em a match! HWTL

  • 91 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    Marty

    Aye, I was expecting a wall of fluorescent green jerseys to be charging that down – none did.

    Colo was squarely to blame for the 3rd, either get one with it and recover your position or go down clutching your face, making a scene, prompting them to halt play. He did neither, just ambled back giving the ref daggers, holding his face – lo and behold they exploit the vacant space.

    Lapses are costing us dear.

  • 92 archaeomag // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    @catchy
    A tip; what how players play without the ball, and the runs they make when the team they have the ball, not just what they do with the ball at their feet.
    Anita is a good example – he has been class from the first game – it just took a while for the team to work him out.

    I know it is very cold under your bridge up there near the arctic circle with only billy goats to keep you company, but you ought to perk up in this festive season – there are at least 3 teams worse than us.

  • 93 stuart no9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    the difference between the two teams today was – they had fergie we had pardew, fergie won that game in the 2nd half thats how a manager earns his pay. first half man u were dreadful, we were good. the 2nd half we carried on from our first half they came out , fergie never sat in his seat nearlly all the 2nd half , he stood in his area directing the play, he knew there was no way they were going to get beat.what a master class in managing a side to a victory- we all knew it was coming- gutted -but full marks to fergie – the greatest ever.

  • 94 archaeomag // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    * watch how player . . .

  • 95 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Tsunki

    he needs to learn to drive at defenders, and go past them

    he needs to learn to cross with his right foot, big time,,

    he needs to learn to be stronger,, 1on1 tight situations he loses more than he wins,,

  • 96 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    @kets

    “Rooney isn’t as good as he used to be, I’d rather have Ba and Cisse than him”

    And then you go onto say we should sign Bale!!!!

    You sir are deluded, you are the embodiment of the stupidly fickle fan that exists too often these days and i am embarrassed that you support my team

  • 97 daztoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    To be honest was expecting to ship 4 today,the surprise was the attacking formation.Should have put Cisse in middle though and dropped Ba for Obertan

  • 98 archaeomag // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    @daztoon – you could play Cisse at CB and he would still stray offside!

  • 99 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    archaeomag

    the second time youv lost me

    iv been one of anitas fans from day one, he is a propper footballer,,

    nothing wrong with the way i see the game,, or the way i like it played,

    i wonder if some of the ppl on here have ever played the game,

  • 100 obatoyou // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    Rooney’s good man, Ba seemed hoggish today, and didn’t do very well, was surprised when Cisse came off for Sameobi, Cisse scored a ripper mate, could av felt that niggle from when he fell in the box early
    we let in 4 yeah, but they had more good chances, hit the post and things, man u will always have heap o chances, tryin to make excuses for the defense!
    what is up with evans, keeps scoring own goals

  • 101 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    I liked the bit when Obertan was our last man in the CB position, after they countered our corner, when Hernandez skipped past him then went around Krul – just amused me for some reason.

  • 102 89Norcal // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    From the sound of it, Simmo was wasteful on the attack.

    Pardew should stop using him as an attacking full-back. He doesn’t have the crossing ability and all it does is fatigue him faster, leading to mistakes later.

  • 103 manxpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    marveux was still non existant for most of the game so how can people say he was brilliant!!? yeah he hit the bar with a free kick wat else did he do??
    and catchy…..
    YOUR NOT A FAN OF NEWCASTLE UNITED!!!!!!!!
    YOUR A JOKE
    you say you like hughton as manager but he played route 1 football more than any manager we’ve had!!
    YOU SIR ARE A TO,SSER OF THE HIGHEST STANDARDS!!!
    JUST F@CK OFF!!

  • 104 obatoyou // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    is it just me or did Ba not want to pass the ball to Cisse?

  • 105 manxpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    i’m glad i sat on the fence there

  • 106 obatoyou // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    manxpie

    you are is spelled you’re

  • 107 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Joe Blog

    feench accent

    i did not see that
    :D

  • 108 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Simpson was amazing going forward today, more through being dogged and winning 50-50s than skill – just running through people like a man possessed – until he had to kick the ball. I’ve never seen a PL footballer with such appalling technique and execution – provided some laughs anyway :lol:

  • 109 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    obatoyou – Time after time Cisse found space and all Ba wanted to do was get a shot off, no matter how unlikely he was to score.

    grinding on me now, is Demba.

  • 110 archaeomag // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    @ Catchy
    - I have never seriosly played the game, totally crap at sport – defective eyesight.
    I think Obertan makes great runs, creates space for other people, and reads the game well, and while not as good as Anita, who does defence better – I can’t see what you problem is.
    We don’t have anyone better with his set qualities.

  • 111 Joe Blog // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    Obatayou

    Ba never wants to pass the ball to anybody, least of all Cisse, if he receives it and has a chance to face goal and shoot, irrespective of angle and distance.

    Ba gets my goat – badum tish!

    I’m leaving for tonight. Goodbye you uneaten Christmas puddings!

  • 112 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    Kets, this is a comment Ileft a few days ago but I’ll post it again.
    ~~~~~~~~
    @Ketsbaia – Again, I’ll ask it: How many full matches have you seen Abeid play? Also, who were the opposition?

    Did you see carrick play against Swansea today? He played some fantastic passes. Intelligent and incisive passes. [Also, he played brilliantly against us TODAY and set up half their chances!]

    May I ask how old you are please? I don’t want to be rude but you speak as if you think real life football is just like it is on a computer game.

    I had a friend when I was younger (about 11/12 I think) who insisted Beckham should be played up front because when playing “F.A. Premier league Manager” (I think) he scored loads of goals playing up front.
    This is how your vehement endorsement of Mehdi Abeid comes across.

  • 113 manxpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    obatoyou not in my language lad
    your means you are

  • 114 Super Magpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    Gutted, absolutely gutted.
    Man Utd cheating again. Ferguson influencing the officials. Van Persie being the sly pr*ck he always is. Valencia’s tackle that could’ve broke Anita’s leg. The list goes on.

    I can’t fault the effort today. We deserved something from this game and were the better team IMO. We seem to have no luck at all. Nothing is going for us and when you play Man Utd you need luck because they seem to have an endless streak of it.

    The defending was poor but we went for the win, we hit the woodwork twice. We should’ve went 3-1 up or 4-3 up with 5 minutes left. I just can’t believe we lost this. I expected us to lose, but not like this.

    Ferguson wants to be banned for his antics today. He showed no class as usual but nobody dares question Alex Ferguson. For him to classed in the same regard as Sir Bobby is a disgrace. But we all know nothing will be done, because of the FA being Fergies own legion of Tw@s.

    I would be furious if I was Pardew. If he done that the whole media would be calling for his head. It’s a disgrace the way football is run and it sickens me.

  • 115 obatoyou // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    fair enough manxpie love u
    if livepool fail to lose, get me an extra 400, thanks to tottenham and swansea! booya

  • 116 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Also- you’d take Darren Bent?!?! Are you mental?!?! I think he is only second to Michael Owen in players I least want us to sign!!!!

    Utterly poor footballer, poor at one on ones and his passing is practically non existant.

    And you think Michael Carrick is awful?!?

  • 117 Super Magpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    A long ball gets the better of Stoke. :lol:

    Nice to see Villa doing well too. :D

  • 118 Marty-Toon // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    Played much better than we all expected today,
    If we can keep this up it’ll all turn around.
    There’s no other team that puts you under that pressure like Manu

  • 119 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    @gonufc

    I doubt he will reply to your questions so i will answer for him

    I have asked him that question about Abied so many times now and he either doesn’t answer or he skirts round it

    As for watching carrick, he was probably too busy writing shite on here to watch the actualt game

    He once said he wasn’t a kid but he didn’t reveal his actual age

    And i agree, i get the feeling he plays alot of football manager and lives in a fantasy world where he bought Bale for the toon, so he believes we can do the same in reality, his constant price valuations of players also leads me to believe he is obssessed with football manager.

  • 120 hazzy // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    Kets you say Ba and Cisse score more than Rooney and that’s what counts
    Not sure who your watching as you will find Rooney scored more than Cisse and Ba combined for Newcastle last season hence the reason he is a far better player than either of them
    You honestly spout some utter dross

  • 121 obatoyou // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    lol was gonna watch the first 5 of stoke liverpool but me mate was sleepin in living room, regretting now its 1-1!

  • 122 89Norcal // Dec 26, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    hazzy

    don’t feed the troll, we are hoping Kets will die in his cage like a rabbit.

  • 123 hazzy // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    am with you Norcal but it is difficult as he bangs on about how good Abeid is and am not getting on the kids back as he is young but he honestly not had a good game yet and looks quite poor if I’m being honest.
    He says we have a better team than Manure… I am no fan of them at all or Rooney but they are an outstanding team and he is an outstanding individual. As you say though he is a troll and maybe I shouldn’t bite but I take it as an insult because it takes away from the fantastic effort our team gave today but in his mind it should be easy

  • 124 Baro // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Gutted we didn’t get a result today, despite the outstanding performance….

    Positives
    The young Gael Bigirimana is just gonna become some player. He is so comfortable with the ball, has great passing distribution. Matveaux has really come into the strides now, he has been brilliant! Anita is a big loss, he has been one of the best players for us this season. Santon and Colo were pretty good. Cisse had a brilliant goal. Ba was the same old Ba. Perchy was solid, laid back. Simmo has kinda alright.

    Negatives
    Honestly, Willo and Simmo need to be subs, not starters. They are just not good enough. They give it their all, but jost not don’t go with our style. They prefer long ball. Debuchy and M’Bwia would be perfect buys.

  • 125 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Manxpie!!!! I guess u think jonas is a world beater do u??

  • 126 spitfire_ // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    The bottom two sentences.

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8359537

  • 127 Selbymag // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    Not posted on here for ages due to in my opinion the ever increasing number of morons who are allowed computers. Sat in the Stretford End today and thought every player could hold their heads up after that performance.
    I may be wrong as I didn’t get to watch it in French on A crap link preferring to actually sit in a real football stadium.
    The away support was superb and for me Anita was the best player on the pitch.
    Ok back to my self enforced ban from the blog. See you at SJP one day if your mams let you out.

  • 128 hazzy // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    spitifre
    would you say this is a positive or negative?
    Obviously we don’t like to see someone injured but it could prove beneficial in order to give others a chance

  • 129 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    Haha, Marveaux was the best player on the pitch today. Willo and Simmo cost us the game. You only rate Carrick because he is from Newcastle, when realistically he is a very poor player. We have much better in Tiote and Anita.

    Death threats are unnecessary when I am just stating the obvious.

    We should’ve won today. The perfomances against City and United were good, but we were at fault defensively once again.

  • 130 Tommyy // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    So Anita may be available for arsenal!? that’s good news we really do need him now to help combat arsenals technicality.

  • 131 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    @kets

    Did carrick score against you on football manager? its ok, you will get over it

  • 132 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    He’s slightly worse than Gareth Barry. I don’t rate either of them. Carrick doesn’t pass and move, he just passes the ball and stands still. He is seriously overrated.

  • 133 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    Kets, yes Carrick is overrated, but he is still a very good player and would get in our first 11 for most games.

    Wouldn’t want him ofc, due to our young midfield talent, but he’s a good player and his record is there for everyone to see

  • 134 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Have you watched his game as in-depth as you have watched Abeids?

  • 135 89Norcal // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    Damn you all, Kets was just about to starve, and here you guys come with scraps.

    Next time, just throw them in the trash :)

  • 136 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    Haha you must be crazy. He wont get into our squad. I rate Perch higher.

  • 137 spitfire_ // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    hazzy

    For me is more than positive. I agree that wishing our players to get injured is bad but couple of days ago I wish that for Jonas… and I don’t regret for it. If he was able to play today Marveaux or Bigi would not play and we gone to lose with 2-3 goals margin.

  • 138 fray bentos // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    @kets

    Have you watched his game as in-depth as you have watched Abeids?

  • 139 archaeomag // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    @Selbymag
    Thank you for the fist hand account, missed the game completely – [every year for ages].

    Anita is a great player- always in space to recieve the ball.

  • 140 ba humbug // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Kets

    Who off this blog is going to kill you or has threatened to do so ?

    Is paranoia another of your conditions ?

    Catchy

    In a Newcastle crowd of say 55,000 how many have played the game at a level high enough for you to value their opinion ?
    Supermac maybe ?

  • 141 wreker16 // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    Kets can’t recommending players off fifa, alderwield, boudebouz and mvila are all w@nk

  • 142 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    I would like Gutierrez to remain at the club as a squad player, but we need to sign a player like Boudebouz who plays on the right-wing. Ben Arfa can play on the left and Marveaux can play in his favourite position through the centre.

    We need to get rid of Tavernier, Simpson, Williamson, Gosling and Shola and loan out Ferguson, Sammi, Vuckic etc. Maybe even Abied if we bring Sissoko and Boudebouz in.

  • 143 ba humbug // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Kets

    And we need to get rid of you, and yer troll companions from this blog.

    Go back to Football Manager or your Panini collection you have no comprehension of the real world

  • 144 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    Kets – please direct your comments towards the correct people, otherwise they appear to be a complete mess of words….

    Well, thanks for telling me why I like a player, I’m am obviously so partizan and insular that I cannot possibly have an objective view of a player that differs to YOURS.

    I believe Carrick makes intelligent passes, that in my opinion is a positive thing.

    and you still haven’t answered the questions.

  • 145 nick_9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    Stoke 3 Liverpool 1. Shame we aren’t 3-5 points better off as its quite tight in the league around 25 points.

  • 146 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    ba humbug

    who is this guy
    José Mário dos Santos Mourinho Félix, OIH, or simply José Mourinho (Portuguese pronunciation: [?u?z? mo??i?u]; born 26 January 1963), is a Portuguese football manager, currently the head coach of Real Madrid. He is commonly known as “The Special One”.[2] Mourinho is regarded by some players, coaches, and critics as one of the best football coaches of all time.[3][4][5][6][7][8] Mourinho started out as a player and eventually switched to management. After working as a physical education teacher and spells working as a youth team coach, a scout, and an assistant manager in the early 1990s, he became an interpreter for Sir Bobby Robson. He worked with Robson at Sporting Lisbon and Porto in Portugal, and Barcelona in Spain. He remained at the Catalonian club after Robson’s departure and worked with his successor Louis van Gaal.

    if he isnt,, i dont know who is

    and if he is why carnt i be??

  • 147 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    to be fair .. i like carrick

    when he went to spurs for 2 mil, i thought he was a bargan

    he spent a year down in the chapmionship, and no big team picked him up

    good range of passing

  • 148 ba humbug // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    CATCHY

    what delusional ?

    but we knew that already

  • 149 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    ba humbug

    how am i that,,

    how is your opinion any better than mine

    my point with jose is, he never played at any level, yet he is a very successful manager,,

    so if in a crowd of 55 000, and jose and super mac where sitting there, you would believe supermac over jose

    all these jurno’s that write about the match , never played the game, some have some great opinions,,

    footballers, who is to say who is good,, yes we all agree messi is great
    but players like Jon Dahl Tomasson,, looked shit at our club, yet played very well in AC milan, one of the top teams in the world

    we all have an opinion,, yours is no better than mine

    idiot

  • 150 daztoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    to think what we could have done to west ham,southampton,swansea,fulham and qpr if we had gone for it like we did today

  • 151 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    daztoon
    100%

    and won most of them

  • 152 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Catchy, I agree with your point in general. A truly wonderful player who is purely instinctive or purely technical could have absolutely nothing to add on a tactical or personal/ psychological level.

    However, there is the risk of reducing football to talk and analysis. There are some nuances and intricacies which happen in a match (the way some one positions their body, dummys the ball, does something entirely off the ball etc.) which cannot be simply racked up on a list of what happened in the game. It cannot be fully understood how difficult it is to counter unless you experience it.

  • 153 daztoon // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    Did Pardew wake up or bow down to players giving him grief for the negative football.Would have put Campbell on for Ba and not bothered with Sammy at all the lad is poor

  • 154 catchy in norway // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Go nufc

    The point of training is to go through set plays an work on possibilities to try and force an outcome

    Talk is just that , talk,

    Not scoring from a corner , that’s lack of training ,

    For today’s performance , Pardew should get a big pat on the back, honestly it was first class, but this is the first game all season and there wasn’t many last year where I can say on another day we might have won that game, not by luck , by playing football and going for it

    If we had played like this more often, I , me , we , would have no argument ,

    Pardew has the tools ( players) but doesn’t seem to have the balls to play them like that often

  • 155 t00ntime // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    I still cant believe we lost! 4-3 and worst of all we deserved to win, we were the better team for 65/70mins :’( i just really hope it hasnt taken too much out of us and we can give arsenal a performance

  • 156 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    There’s nothing wrong with my comments. There’s too many NUFC supporters that have too much respect for Man Utd. I’m just stating that, with a few defensive additions, we’d have a better squad than them. We all know what we need. Lets hope Ashley gives Pardew at least £20m to spend plus extra from player sales.

  • 157 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    It’s good to see that people are big enough to give credit where it’s due and say, yeah we played well today. For a large portion of that game we were kicking manures arse! We took the lead three times and we took the game to them. We produced one of the best premier league games for a long time and we are proving that we are not relegation fodder. Imagine that team today, with cabaye, with Ben arfa, with Saylor or a new attacking ball playing centre back.

    We are not relegation fodder, we are sleeping giants. We can take on anybody in the league when we are up to it.

    Bring on January, bring back our key players, bring in new players, keep this momentum going, and we can climb back up the league.

    The last 5 games now, I think Pardew has proved that he is not only a hoofball manager, that he can get a team playing good football, and that he can manage tough situations.

    Yes we lost today, but we lost with a big sense of injustice. We can take that injustice into the arsenal game, maybe get a point or three. On to Everton at home, play lik today they stand no chance.

    Now I must stop before this turns into a proper motivational battle cry and people go out and declare war on the makems or something. :)

  • 158 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM

    Yes!! Gutierrez injured!! :D was wondering why we played so well. ;)

  • 159 AMEOBI // Dec 26, 2012 at 9:59 PM

    “There’s nothing wrong with my comments. There’s too many NUFC supporters that have too much respect for Man Utd. I’m just stating that, with a few defensive additions, we’d have a better squad than them. We all know what we need. Lets hope Ashley gives Pardew at least £20m to spend plus extra from player sales.”

    Kets I never agree with you but yeah you’re spot on, Man Utd aren’t as good as people say, good frontline that makes up for their defence/midfield.. Anyone can do that with money to spend.

  • 160 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    good post Conaldo…

    If we had our big guns today, playing the same style of football, we would have absolutely battered that Man United side.

    I estimate we’ll have about 13 matches left in the Premier League by the time Ben Arfa and Cabaye are back, making 33 points the maximum we can pick up from then till the end of the season.

    By the end of January i’m just gonna’ estimate (judging by our form this season) that we’ll have around 27 points. (potentially, and hopefully more, obviously).

    Meaning if we really go for it and hit some form once our recognised first team is back, we still have a chance of bypassing that 50 point marker that almost guarantees an 7th-10th place finish.

  • 161 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    in defence of Kets

    f*** off would you?

    who cares if some of his comments are bit hyperbolic, he adds to the discussion, which can’t be said for most of you. You seem more worried about making blog-buddies than actually discussing NUFC

    I like kets posts. I agree with about 20% of them, usually when he’s being a bit more levelheaded, but who are you to tell him to get lost? He’s been here longer than most of you! it’s clear he’s an NUFC fan as he watches and comments on and during every match

  • 162 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    Kets & Ameobi

    As I said earlier…

    It’s truly embarrassing for the Premier League that Manchester United are 7 points clear.

    Everyone likes to talk about how La Liga is a two horse race – well at least those horses are two of the greatest horses in world horse racing. Their starting 11′s constitute 22 of the greatest players in the world – no way you can come close to that with MUFC.

  • 163 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    conaldo, i can’t stand pards, but i’m giving everyone apart of NUFC credit today (save sammeobi, who is just a pitiful, lazy player)

    i think the proof will be what we do against ‘mid-table’ teams around and below us. one of my biggest criticisms is that we never try to impose our own style on games. That, today, is how we need to play against everyone. press high, trust your workrate, keep possession. that is how you win….not by sitting back and inviting pressure which AP has been notorious for.

    so very proud of everyone again today. say what you want about simmo and willo, but they showed fight and for the first time in a VERY VERY long time, i can say that i was thoroughly entertained, which is what this is all about anyway.

  • 164 AMEOBI // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    TDS,

    I seen that comment too, if you put the likes of Valencia into prem they would rip this league apart.. I think La liga is a stronger league

  • 165 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    TDS – Very very true! Man United have 3 world class players in their ranks i would say. (Vidic, Rooney and Van Persie).

    Man City are very inconsistent and can be a very poor side when the ball isn’t rolling for them.

    I’ve said before, United and City would both struggle to win La Liga or the Bundesliga.

  • 166 nick_9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    This is the worst man united in years but they by far have a better squad than us and should do for a club that has won the league as many times as it has in the past twenty years. It’s nice to see more fans saying something I have that we are 2-3 player short of having an excellent eleven. The two players being a wing back and centre back and perhaps a winger depending on how obertan and Marv carry on. Once the starting eleven is strong that’s when we need to improve the back up players and youngsters. Please get us the senior players we need this window Mr Ashley and not on the last day of the window. Another attacking fullback and pacey composed centre back would make tonnes of difference. Marv, obertan, perch and bigi have all started to put a shift in and prove their worth and then we’ve got Anita, cabaye, tiote and hba so we have plenty of strength in midfield but not enough in the other departments.

  • 167 AMEOBI // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    Cba reading previous comments but what’s been said about Anita, broken ankle? How long we gunna be without him?

  • 168 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    I agree, I think the German, Italian and Spanish leagues are all stronger. All you have to do is look at the Uefa Champions league and europa cup results.

    Man Utd were a lot stronger with Ronaldo and Beckham in the team with Scholes, Neville, Giggs and Rio much younger.

    I will be surprised if Man Utd get to the last 4 of the champions league.

    Chelsea and City have the best squads. Spurs need to sign 2 strikers to compete with City and Chelsea.

  • 169 ba humbug // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    CATCHY

    what i like about you is you’re honest enough to sign off with your real name

    idiot

  • 170 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    Someone said that Anita would be ok for the next game? We can’t afford to lose him. We will have to sign Sissoko as we can’t rely on Bigi/Perch.

  • 171 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Ameobi

    Yeah I agree. I imagine Valencia and A.Madrid would possibly finish in the Champions League in the PL.

    matty

    I worry the damage may have already been done, unfortunately. By the time Cabaye and Hatem return, we’re very likely to be sitting 16th/17th in the table. I just pray that we don’t lose anyone in the window. While I wouldn’t mind Ba leaving in the summer, I can’t see us replacing him in January. I fear all this talk of Remy is complete pie in the sky.

  • 172 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Athletico Madrid, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Munchen and Juventus would all win this league with ease!

    …and the likes of Ajax, Malaga, Valencia, Leverkusen, PSG. Lyon, Shalke and probably many more would sit in the top 4 fairly comfortably season after season. Why? Because they play ambitious football week in, week out.

    So much poor football is played throughout this league.

  • 173 AMEOBI // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Next game? Wow that would be a shock. I thought Bigi and Perch did a great job today, but Anita again fantastic

  • 174 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    toonlyf

    i have to believe teams like Ajax would stand more than a fair shot of winning the EPL

  • 175 toonydoonunder // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    I cant believe the negativity that still spews forth from some people on here .
    Credit where credit is due that was one of the best games seen in a long time and with a bit more luck it would have been 3 points to a magnificent toon side.
    .Credit due to Pardew for sending out an attack minded team at Old trafford and credit to the players for taking it to the league leaders .Lets not forget the bar, the post and some dubious reffing contributed to it all.
    Hopefully the Big man upstairs will see the need now for re-enforcements and hand Pardew some much needed cash,Have a good New Year lads and lasses hopefully we can all be toasting the arrival of new faces and an upturn in results .Keep the Faith HWTL

  • 176 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Kets

    Pardew said that it’s too early to tell, and they’ll have to see if he’s ready for Arsenal. He also said he’s just taken a knock to his ankle. Sounds promising.

  • 177 AMEOBI // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    ToonLYF,

    Add another 10 teams to that haha

  • 178 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    Pardew said he expects him to miss Arsenal but could be back for Everton, however Anita was yet to be assessed at the time he said that. No news since then.

    Either way, it’s obviously not as bad as we all first feared.

  • 179 ba humbug // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    matty ]

    Have you really lost the plot ? Hypberole ?

    These trolls want us to lose and players to get injured and seem to be happy when certain players are injured. And these are true fans ?

    Yeh, freedom of speech is a great thing and you’re a true defender.

  • 180 Marty-Toon // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Isn’t Willo out fr the Arsenal game?
    I think it was his 5th booking today

  • 181 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    matty’s right though, that was the first time I’ve enjoyed a Newcastle game in a long long time. Wigan was good, but we were just bullying a terrible team with ten men.

    We were ambitious today – every time they scored, we went for another. When they equalised for 2-2, Obertan was brought on, stretched them, and immediately put us ahead again.

    Sure, we played some long balls – but so did Manchester United. Our team just seemed to know their identity for the first time in a while.

    The energy that Anita, Marveaux, Perch and Bigirimana gave us was just fantastic.

    Also, Bigi really didn’t stand out as out of place at all today – he really looks like a promising talent.

  • 182 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Although I don’t buy into the idea of “we should be hammering teams like Man U”
    I agree with the comments of many regarding Man U and the prem.

    No way is the premier league the best in the world.

    I think the order is something like this
    1. Bundesliga
    2. La Liga
    3. Premier League
    4. Serie A
    Then all the others.

    People say la Liga is 2 teams, but I think athletico Madrid, Valencia and Malaga of the top of my head would all be top 5 premier league sides.

    Bundesliga is most competitive, is run the best, has he best fans. Proper football league.

    And also, I wouldn’t say Rooney is world class. I cant stand him. He is good for Man U,
    (But 3 goals so far this season for a 300k a week forward is awful) but to be world class you have to impose yourself on every stage. Rooney is sh*te for England. I hate watching him play for England. As you can tell I don’t rate Rooney at all, but he is good for Man U.

    Going to watch match of the day now, watch all the pundits drool over Man U’s ability to come back from behind etc…

  • 183 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Marty

    Hopefully. Tiote will be back, so he can sit in midfield and Perch can drop back to CB.

  • 184 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    ba humbug

    tell me of one instance where kets (not ‘these trolls’ as i was referring to kets and only kets) said he hoped we would lose, or that a player is injured

    if i’m wrong, fair enough, but i’ve never seen anything

  • 185 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Williamson is out hallelujah!

  • 186 BelfastMagpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:27 PM

    Very good attacking performance.
    Not even going to mention the defending.

    Find it really strange that we have a real go at the two best teams in the league.

    But against Qpr etc we’re more concerned about defending, rather than attacking.

    Felt f***** rubbish after taking nothing out of that game like.

  • 187 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    conaldo

    agree 100% on the bundesliga. everything about that league is top notch….level playing field, realistic wages paid to most players, fans’ unions, and football that is just as fast paced as the average EPL game

    i remember people giving Luuk De Jong flack after he chose to go to Monchengladbach…..given he’s been pretty poor there, doesn’t change the fact the only fans who deem the german league inferior are usually british fans

  • 188 toonbrother // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Really alarming to think that pardew at one point rated ferguson ahead of marvs. And had it not been for Jonas’ injury, he probably would not have played him today. Ive lost all faith in him as a judge of player quality. Anita has been invaluable as a centre midfielder. If he’s out hell be a huge miss

  • 189 BelfastMagpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Four really crap goals like.

  • 190 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    toonbrother

    i agree with you 100%. all we can do is hope he will learn. there was no reason he needed to be kept out of the team this long. there was no reason santon needed to be kept out of the team as long as he was, and more so HBA

    let’s just hope he gets it right cause we could lose every game but if we play like we did today, i will be a more than content fan. i’ve grown nearly disillusioned with having to sit through the dross that’s been served up for most of his two year tenure. I really hope this is a turning point.

  • 191 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    Cisse’s and Evra’s were good. Van Persie’s was a good finish but shouldn’t have been allowed the time and space.

    Cisse’s was like his one against Norwich at home last season.

  • 192 mattyNUFC // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    LYF

    evra’s was total ****. it was awful. Ba should’ve done a lot better. it was just a crowded box. It was about on par with sammy’s effort in the dying minutes.

    cisse’s by far the pick of the 7

  • 193 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Joe Hart – best GK in the world? Hahahaha.. Right.

  • 194 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    Good goals, bad goals. The fact is we concede goals. 5 days and counting to get those muppets out and some quality in!

  • 195 Spuggy // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    Why did William and Simmo just stand still for that goal?

  • 196 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    The Arsenal game is a throw away to be honest. They didn’t play today, so they’ve had 5 more days rest than us.

  • 197 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    wtf was Joe Hart doing there? The best goal keepers in the world do not dive straight over the ball, ever.

    Krul > Hart

  • 198 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    Spuggy- no words can describe them. Don’t think about it. Just pray that we get them replaced on the 1st :-)

  • 199 Spuggy // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    With Anita finding his feet and Cabaye, HBA, tiote and saylor returning soon and a couple of quality defensive signings in Jan we should have a much better 2nd half to the season.

    Here’s hoping!

  • 200 BelfastMagpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    We cant defend for toffee at the minute.

    Everton at home is a massive game.
    I’d be suprised if we get anything at Arsenal

  • 201 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Spuggy

    But by the time they return, there’s only 1/3 of the season left :( By then we’ll be 16th/17th, given our run of games to come.

  • 202 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    Belfast. Like it Everton / toffee ;-)

  • 203 BelfastMagpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:10 PM

    In an ideal world a new centre back & right back would arrive on the 1st of January. :-)

    No chance of it happening though.

  • 204 nick_9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Agree Belfast. Also replacements lined up for players likely to leave.

  • 205 Spuggy // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Gonna be mid table finish which is a shame but we aren’t going down.

  • 206 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Belfast – stop winding me up!

  • 207 89Norcal // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Just saw the Valencia challenge on Anita.

    Shocking how that wasn’t a 2nd yellow. In fact, the ref’s hardly even paid attention.

    Then Ian Darke and Steve Mcmanaman have a dig at Carver and our staff for telling the refs to open our eyes. They were so busy reading off ESPN’s schedule that they didn’t even see the foul!

  • 208 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Spuggy – mid table, invest, Europe again.

    Ah the roller coaster that is supporting Newcastle.

    I wouldn’t change it for anything. :)

  • 209 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    Conaldo

    Assuming we don’t lose our best players :|

    If you expect investment you’re somewhat more optimistic than myself.

  • 210 BelfastMagpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    We need to remove the two cones from the back four. That’s the kindest way of putting it.

    Think Simpson is trying his best to earn a move to Barnet.

  • 211 thai-mag // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    fantastic game; wrong result again, another 4-3 the wrong way again, 90% of the guys out here are so called big team supporters, I’ve been more times to Manures ground in away games more than most of them put together at home, they dont know where it is

  • 212 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    What are people thoughts towards the Europa league?

    I personally hope we play the absolute first team, and really go for it. Otherwise we sacrificed our season for nothing. Who knows we might even get a trophy!! :)

  • 213 ToonDownSouth // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Conaldo

    Agreed. The PL is gone – we’re finishing midtable, unless something insane happens.

  • 214 HullMag6 // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Cisse’s goal showed 1 up and wingers works and shows there is a Ba problem. Ba’s attempt wouldve been better crossed to Cisse he might as well be invisible when Ba has the ball.

    Btw well done Perchino opened your account with great following in.

    Signs are promising, keep the faith.

    HWTL

  • 215 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Conaldo – it’s getting silly now. Some fans are not going to see us win something in their lifetime!!
    That Walters from stoke looks like he is getting better and better. Not sure where he would fit in though. Can we convert him to a right back ;-)

  • 216 jeff // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    i’m just gonna preface my comment by saying that i voted danny simpson for man of the match

    in my opinion, if simpson can put in a performance like that every week, we don’t need a new rb (assuming he stays..)

    he made a lot of good runs and was taking on players pretty well and defended very well, especially considering that often times he was defending with no one in front of him (when cisse would drift inwards). simpson only really looked susceptible today at the back post but you can’t really blame him for the goals conceded. he needs to work on his final ball as well. i get the feeling this was one of the first games this season where he was playing his heart out (old club etc…) and in the other games his effort has been lacking

    team for arsenal:

    krul
    simpson perch coloccini santon
    tiote anita
    cisse marveaux obertan
    demba ba

    does anyone else think that obertan looks so much more dangerous as a inverse winger?

  • 217 jasper // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    MoD didn’t even show the tackle on Anita or give it any mention whatsoever.
    SAF toadies,
    .

  • 218 BelfastMagpie // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Keep quiet hotdog or I’ll eat you.

  • 219 Benry // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    The really sick thing that i realised today is that I have another 20 odd years of having to endure useless amoebic trash. My gosh the ameobis really did win the lottery the day they set foot on Newcastle.

  • 220 89Norcal // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    Conaldo

    We still should finish as high as possible, because of reward cash.

    But we could be up against some tough teams in the EL. When you consider we won’t play our best side in some of those games – we may make it into the 16 but not sure about after that.

    Sad because I like seeing Newcastle in Europe, but our board needed a wakeup call.

    Jasper

    ofc they didn’t. What annoyed me most though was that our fans didn’t even protest. When Valencia dug his boot into Anita’s ankle there wasn’t a peep. If I have the layout of Mold Trafford correct, it happened right in front of our fans too!

  • 221 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    Jeff. Ohh it does not matter

  • 222 wreker16 // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    In regards to the best league debate, I think the Prem is considered the best because (in theory) it is the most competitive, rather than being the one that possesses the most quality

  • 223 Benry // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    Pls Nigeria take shola and his useless bro with you to afcon

  • 224 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Tds- yeah, we had a poor start to the season, (by start I mean up to and including the Southampton game).
    By the time we have kicked our arse into gear, we are plagued with injuries, low confidence, tough opposition. Since stoke we have played well. Our season started there really. We just desperately need points on the board and get away from the relegation zone.

    Even if we win every game from now untill the end of the season, we will probably only finish 4th or something. Priorities have to be: Secure our premier league status, give Europa league a real go, and hopefully this new tv deal will give Ashley some initiative to open that wallet of his.

  • 225 nick_9 // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Jeff he played four man united players inside for one of the goals, not sure if anyone noticed that when looking at the highlights? Not blaming him or anyone for the defeat but I did say it was a shame we took off both our best strikers and switched to 4:5:1 with ten-fifteen minutes still to play, some games it will work and we will hold out but this week it didn’t

  • 226 Benry // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    I guess by the time spammy retires, shola would have had a few kids and his brood would be well on the way to playing for Newcastle as young teens. It’s a never ending nightmare

  • 227 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    So tha A B C now goes A B C P ERCH

  • 228 toonLYF // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    i agree about the Europa league, by the time we play in it next, we should have pretty much our first team all match fit, aswell as 2-3? new signings, so we can really give it a go. We’ll be the most likely English team to win something in Europe this season.

    Wouldn’t mind dropping a few league positions (regarding we’re a comfortable distance from the RG) to get to a final.

  • 229 Ashton // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    jeff

    Danny Smpson please leave this blog!

  • 230 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    Benry – I hope you have nightmares about all your children being born with sholas face. Now bore off.

    I’m probably going to get abuse for this, but I actually like sammy.

    I think he holds the ball well, gets past players, can actually move quite fast, and has a good shot. I personally believe he is one of if not our most promising youngster. Him, fergie and biggie are the future of this club and I am glad. Top players and top professionals.

    Anyway, I’m off.

  • 231 hotdog // Dec 26, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    I would think the fa cup is the more realistic one to go for!

  • 232 kevymartins // Dec 27, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    Hi’ guys now that dreaming of blowing valencias head to bits with a shotgun has calmed me down can somebody please tell me is there any news on the little man?

  • 233 kevymartins // Dec 27, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    And ferguson putting pressure on the officials to give them stuff

    Did anybody else notice the van persie elbow or punch on colo (again) for 1 of there goals?

  • 234 kevymartins // Dec 27, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Yep just watched the highlights there 3rd goal van persie clearly punched colo in the face in the build up 2 it thats why colo was caught out of position.Aw well no point yapping now time to move on…ooh thats right we can’t one of are best players this last while’s leg could be broke

  • 235 DarloGeordie // Dec 27, 2012 at 1:34 AM

    Kevy

    Pretty sure van pussy learnt that trick from the legend Shearer

  • 236 Indian Magpie // Dec 27, 2012 at 4:17 AM

    People asking how did Valencia got away with that tackle.

    He went to Nigel De Jong’s Master class.

    Arsenal will be a different kettle of fish, hope we prepare accordingly. A draw could be a good result.

  • 237 JDdubai // Dec 27, 2012 at 4:44 AM

    Best performance of the season, cant argue with the effort.

    Why oh why thpough did Willo and Simmo both leave their men in the last minute to try to play offside?????????????????????????? SO dangerous to try that and stupid, again we have lost points due to them. Fairly sure the first goal was Willo’s fault too, he should have attacked the ball and cleared it.

    Still it shows why Jonas shouldnt be in the team and why w should persevere with Marveaux, so much ability. With a new RB and CB the team could be :

    Krul
    RB-CB-Colo-Santon
    Tiote-Anita
    HBA-Cabaye-Marveaux
    Cisse

    Id take that any day, add in Sissoko in an ideal world and Remy too, all will be fine as long as 4-4-2 stays the f@ck away from now on!!!!!

  • 238 Indian Magpie // Dec 27, 2012 at 5:18 AM

    Any 1 thinks Security could be a reason for NUFC pulling shola out of AFCON?




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