Davide Santon Devastated After Loss At Old Trafford


Newcastle put themselves into a great position to win the game at Old Trafford yesterday, after we were deservedly were 2-1 up at the beak,  and 3-2 up after 68 minutes, but again we managed to lose the game — and it was frustrating for the players, the fans and the manager.

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Davide Santon in action yesterday

Davide Santon had another good display yesterday in a black and white shirt, and he’s currently 4th in the voting for Man of the Match with 9% of the vote.

And Santon was devastated after the defeat yesterday, and had this to day to the Newcastle web-site after the game:

“We had a really big chance to win this game but the last ten minutes were good for Manchester United and they won while we come back to Newcastle with zero points.”  “I think people thought Newcastle would go to Manchester United and come back with zero points but we really had a chance to win the game.”  

“We were confident because last week we won against QPR so when you win, for the next game you always have confidence. You have a winning mentality.”  “Today was like that. We came here to get the result but in the final minutes we were beaten and we’re really disappointed because we should have won.”

 “It was always 1-0, 1-1, 2-1 to Newcastle again, 2-2, then 3-2 to Newcastle when Papiss scored, so we’re very disappointed to end up with nothing.”  “It’s a really sad day but now we have to think about the next game.”  “We’re disappointed but I think if we can still go into the next game against Arsenal with the mentality to win.”

 “If we play the same as we did today – especially in the first half – we can win the game.”  “Like today, we’ll go with a winning mentality and I think we can win the game.”

Newcastle must keep up their spirits after what was a heart breaking loss yesterday, and the worry we have now is that we could slip back into some bad form on Saturday and lose our 8th game out of the last 10 league games, and there will again be worries about when we will pull out of this awful slump we are in.

Hopefully we’ll get the win at the Emirates on Saturday and learn from yesterday’s defeat.

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55 comments so far

  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM

    Comment #1

    In these situations it’s best to take whatever positives from the match and move on. If we dwell on this tragic defeat to ManUtd – when we had a chance to go against history – it will just tear at our psyche and our confidence.

    The positives were:
    1) We were dangerous on the attack
    2) Marveaux and Bigi showed great composure and influence
    3) We scored 3(2) goals at Old Trafford despite being vastly outmatched player for player

    I have good feelings about the Arsenal game.

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  • Dannyo

    Dec 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM

    Comment #2

    Aye, absolutely and utterly gutted. Nearly shed a tear for that, things really isn’t going for us, and it seems we have to battle for every win now.
    The performances has been high as of late, but a tough fixture list when form has returned gives us little to no chance.
    I think Arsenal are there for the taking tho.
    Give them no respect.

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  • ba humbug

    Dec 27, 2012 at 7:32 AM

    Comment #3

    REPOST

    Can’t sleep and on her before the trolls get out from under their bridges.

    Some observations from yesterday.

    If Ba had put Cisse in instead of shooting wide we would have been two up. We seriously need a much better partnership up front. Might be difficult to coach players to seek each other out unless you have a pass and move approach. Great anticipation by Perchinho though.

    Krul is not on his best form. He looked slow in getting down for their second and third goals and I thought would have pushed both these round the post last season when he was on stunning form. Its not all Simmo and Willo underperforming at the back.

    Our defence is so static. They don’t seem to anticipate balls being played into space and look that fraction of a second too slow in closing players down. Saylor is real good at this but is never going to play a full season. Willow and Simmo were flat footed for their fourth goal – they just did not move to cover the player at all. These guys don’t seem to be able to rise to the occasion, though Simmo did get an assist. They are too average. We need serious improvement in defence coaching just to get them to move properly. Even Colo has had his off moments.

    A comparison with Fletcher was made on here last night with Sammi getting a bit of flak for lack of desire. Yeh he does look awkward and maybe he’s heading for the prima donna also ran club – loves the kudos but lacks professionalism. Get yer head down and graft Sammi.

    Who said Obertan can’t cross ?

    We are strong in midfield. Bigi has star quality. Marveaux is building confidence as well as showing creativity and not as easy knocked off the ball the more he plays.

    Anita is total quality and creative with it. Really want to see him, Cabs, Marv and Benny in the same side going forward.

    Even missing HBA and Cabs we got three goals at Old Trafford. That ain’t down to a lack of midfield creativity. We can do it – if Pards sets the team up for the counter like he did yesterday. I feel his biggest weakness is lack of courage in setting teams up. He has tended to sit back and protect – which is plain stupid with our weak defence. Much better tactically recently – especially with subs. I wonder if the Manager of the Year stuff went to his head a bit. Dizzy with success ‘n’ all that. Looks like he’s come to his senses now tho. Desperado.

    And finally – please Transfer Fairy can we have two solid defenders and a quality striker to replace Ba ?
    And ideally a BTB midfielder for extra cover ?
    I know that’s four and I’d settle for the two defenders if Ba stays and Strolla doesn’t go to ACON.

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  • JDdubai

    Dec 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM

    Comment #4

    Marveaux must be played centrally behind the CF now, I thought Perch, Anita and Big were great yesterday, ran and ran and controlled the play for a long period of the game.

    Iv said all along I dont see why people are convinced Sammy is going to be a star or even good enough. He isnt a baby anymore and his touch, workrate etc are crap, too often gives the ball away. Needs a season or 2 in the Championship to see if he has the desire to make it but looks just like Shola did when he was younger…lots of talent but lazy and no end product too often.. time will tell.

    Such a shame Willo and Simmo tried to play offsdie in the last minute, far too risky to do that, especially when looking al0ong the line they should be able to see that the other 2 defenders were dropping back. Sadly its more points lost due to this issue, shocking that Santon is the only defender we have signed since we were promoted…

    Still Arsenal beatable with:

    Krul
    Simmo-Willo-Colo-Santon
    Tiote-Anita/Bigi
    Cisse-Marveaux-Obertan
    Ba

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 7:43 AM

    Comment #5

    ba humbug, JDdubai,

    The problem with Simmo is he’s too involved in our attack. He’s a worker with solid defensive awareness. Problem is, Pardew has called on him to venture forward far more than usual in the last 3 matches. He is knackered by the 65th-70th minute, hence his flat-footed and lazy defending towards the end of games. Same thing happened vs Swansea I believed.

    Willo on the other hand…For every 1 good game he will have 10 average/poor games. In other words – Championship caliber defender.

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  • check the toastie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #6

    The problem with Simpson is he is shit, always has been, always will be, the sooner he has left the club the better.

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #8

    3 ba humbug

    i love reading idiots like you 🙂

    your so full of shit it is untrue

    you have a go at me cos im delusional , yet you have the balls to come on and say ” Even missing HBA and Cabs we got three goals at Old Trafford. That ain’t down to a lack of midfield creativity. We can do it – if Pards sets the team up for the counter like he did yesterday. I feel his biggest weakness is lack of courage in setting teams up. He has tended to sit back and protect – which is plain stupid with our weak defence” your words,,

    but it seems very funny how your echoing my thoughts and im delusional, hmmm

    a mid field without , tiote jonas HBA cabaye, and we took the game to man u,, im a troll because i believe we have a better squad than than is made out to be,

    you talk about me and us neggers for want pardew out because he has shown us for 2 year that he is a poor manager,, and your saying the same thing by saying he has no balls,,

    should it take a manager to have an argument with his senior players to get them to play football? i can understand a manager screaming at his players to get something done but i have never heard of a captain falling out with a manager because the manager wants to play long ball and the team believe we can play football,,

    we are talking about a guy that has played hoofball for 14 games this season, because he didnt get the signings he wanted

    if we had of played like that against villa stoke norwich west ham swansea, we would be about 10 points better off i recon, all ifs and buts,

    you say obertan can cross, i say he carnt,, yesterday thatwas a pull back,,
    a cross is when you get a bit of space and lift the ball into the area, last seaason v stoke,, that was a cross from oberan

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:03 AM

    Comment #9

    Interesting how check, Indian, and catchy all post consecutively…

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:05 AM

    Comment #10

    JDdubai

    i agree on ameobi, no end product, poor attitude

    i really do think pardew is a bad judge of player, how many times has ameobi ben on as a sub without an assist other than the WBA shot,
    ferg is not the answer,, but he has a more direct approach to his game , great at crossing the ball, then you have marv, is even better than ferg, polayed even less,,

    makes u wonder

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:07 AM

    Comment #11

    89Norcal

    what about the content

    why try and start an argument,, why even say anything,,

    we are comenting on the game , the club,, you comment on us,,

    bravo

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  • check the toastie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #12

    Well, Pardew was forced into dropping Jonas yesterday and hopefully the penny has finally dropped regards Marveuax’s ability, we have a great bunch of players at the club when all fit, if we were to ever invest in a RB and CB, and somehow get rid of Ba replaced with Remy, personally think we could take anybody on.

    Krul
    Debuchy Collo Douglass Santon
    Anita Tiote
    Ben10 Cabaye Marv/Remy?
    Cisse

    Even Pardew should be able to get this team playing.

    Nice to see some improvement in the last few games regarding passing the ball about, Simmo is truly hopeless, how anyone can give him any credit is beyond me, what was he doing for their last goal, total shite, stood a yard behind everybody else, even Willo was pissed with him.

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:15 AM

    Comment #13

    catchy

    The 3-0 vs Man U, the 2-2 vs Everton this season are just 2 examples of Shola assisting a goal. He’s done the same a few other times – in case you’re wondering why we hoof it to him.

    Anyways we are playing much better football now, because Pardew is actually recognizing the quality some of our younger players have now.

    If Ba goes and we have no further conflicts in our lineup post January, I don’t see us going back to long ball ever again. That was Pardew’s desperation tactic in the face of his striker problem.

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM

    Comment #14

    check the toastie

    do you agree,

    with player like willo and simpson,,

    the style pardew had the team playing makes the whole team look average, down to there 2s level, get the team playing football, and you can see the gulf in class between the players

    if simoson has no future at the club, get tav in,, he may be a kid, but his mistakes will be honest mistakes, tav has energy, is not a bad player, no worse than simpson,,

    im not say long term,, just until we get a proper RB

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM

    Comment #15

    Bad nights sleep, I’m hurting after yesterday

    It seems when you’re down the Gods of football kick you further down. Bang another injury to a key player – Anita was playing out of his skin and the partnership of Anita and Marvo I would of liked to see continue – looked good. Bigi and Perch were immense and Cisse had a better game.

    If only Anita is out bring in Tiote.

    Not going to be to critical but Krul looks out of sorts – I thought he was at fault for 2 of the goals should of pushed the shots around the post.

    Still if we can get out of this then I think it boads well for the future – for the last few games playing the best football for ages (better than a lot of games last year) blooded a few of the fringe players – some look very good Marvo, Anita, Bigi – some not up to it need to go out on loan.

    Heres to hope in the New Year, NEW players in and the injury list gets shorter.

    Not looking forward to the Arsenal game they’ve had a day off – for tube strike – how the F**k did they manage that when Fulham and QPR played

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:19 AM

    Comment #16

    Whoops forgot Williamson will be missing for Saturday – suspended

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  • catchy in norway

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:23 AM

    Comment #17

    89Norcal

    i think shola is a waste too,, i could go through and tell you how many goals he has missed, i think you know over the time he has been here he has been bad more than good
    can you remember sholas first game,, i can, v chelsea, i was at the reserves every match back then, and he was shit then to,, had skill and if he done in the box what he could do out of it, he would have been great, but the reason he got picked, was his size not ability,, at that time, chopra was banging them in, he looked amazing, chased everything, like belamy, but he could finish, but he was small
    i was refering to sammy,, the kid is full of running,, no end product

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:25 AM

    Comment #18

    catchy listen to yourself. So what are you suggesting – Tav be our starting RB from 1or2 games till the summer? You would accept his (possibly frequent) mistakes but dig at Simpson for his? Perch would fill RB before Tav anyways.

    Our offensive play is good for the players we have on hand, our defensive setup with Simpson running himself ragged and CB’s are the problem.

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  • check the toastie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM

    Comment #19

    Would like to see Shola leave for ACON’s or even leave the club, similar to the Carroll situation at Liverpool, it would show intent by Pardew that he is keen on playing decent football, his Pursuit of Carroll has left me baffled when we have so many players who are comfortable getting the ball down and passing it.

    Pardews courting of Carroll worries me, he doesnt fit in with the rest of the team, bizarre really.

    Catchy – totally disagree with you, regards Obertan, the lad works hard, always gives his opposing full back something to think about and can look super at times, it is his inconsistency thats the problem, but for me there is defo a good talented player in there somewhere.

    It doesnt help if he plays down the right, in that he has Simpson ‘helping’ him. It will be no surprise if and when he plays down the left with Santon, the two of them will be a real threat.

    Enjoyed the fact hat we posed some threat yesterday, just a shame Timmy had a bad day, not very often you can point the finger at our young keeper, but yesterday he had a bit of a nightmare for me..

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:28 AM

    Comment #20

    well I somewhat agree on Sammy, he’s far too flair based and selfish, but I’ve seen marginal improvements over the first half of the season.

    Shola may get favoritism when it’s unwarranted because he’s a Geordie, but he’s still gotten us out of a few jams and either salvaged or won us points with his supporting role to Ba. But now with Cisse in the mix, our frontline has been a wash.

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  • ba humbug

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:32 AM

    Comment #21

    CATCHY

    Yes you are totally correct on one point only – you are delusional and your posts are rambling repetitive self bloating rants.

    If a monkey can write Shakespeare given a keyboard and infinite time to type then even you are going to make some sensible points occasionally.

    Get back under your bridge.

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  • check the toastie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #22

    Catchy – yep would defo throw Tavernier in as RB, if Jonas must play would maybe try him there as well before Simpson, Simpleson offers nothing at all, just dont get it.

    Dont really know whats happened to Sammy, blows out of his arse after doing like 10yards, needs to get on the treadmill and improve his fitness, thought he had huge potential last year, good in the Chelski game at home, worked his bollocks off, and then was fantastic for England U21’s, the lad has currently lost the plot and needs to shape up before he ends up the same as his wasteful older brother.

    As make no bones about it Shola has been the most frustrating player i have ever witnessed in a toon shirt, at times he has been disgraceful, at other times great, a real enigma the boy.

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #23

    I don’t get all the stick for shola. He’s not an never has been a world class striker. He’s not a phenomenal finisher or a great footballer. He is a squad player, who is very good a holding the ball and laying It off for someone, or like at qpr, scoring a pretty decent goal. He is the most ideal impact sub you can have.
    And most importantly he bleeds black and white.
    The amount of injuries he’s had, the amount of managers who have written him off, is it any wonder he has never really developed into an excellent player?
    Only two managers believed in shola, sir bobby and Pardew. And since the championship season sholas game has improved massively. He has found his niche. He doesn’t sprint for the ball, he doesn’t take on 6 men and go on mazy runs, he is calm and composed, and lays the ball off for other strikers, or puts it in the back of the net about as frequently as any other striker.

    His goals to game ratio is something like 1 in 5, which for a squad player who has suffered so many injuries is a pretty decent record.

    Anyway.
    It didnt really hit me that yesterday, our ‘first’ choice midfield was completely out injured/suspended (cabs benny tiote Jonas)
    I can’t think of many if any other teams where there entire midfield has been out at the same time, especially for a trip to old Trafford!

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #24

    Conaldo

    Jonas should not be a first team MF for us.

    Saying that he was my favourite player in 08-09 season.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #25

    Does any one know how much would shola be on wages etc.

    if he is on 50k, then a lot more of him is to be expected

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #26

    Conaldo

    That’s exactly what I was saying in a previous post, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen such a injury plagued midfield!

    So to say we nearly matched ManUtd at Old trafford with a substitute midfield is something to be proud of.

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  • 89Norcal

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #27

    Indian,

    Shola made 25k a week in 2009 before signing a 2-year extension last year. Now get off his back ffs.

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #28

    Indian – he was first choice midfield last season, that’s what I meant. He may not be this season but still.

    And I doubt shola would be on that much.

    Really impressed with all the players yesterday.

    Although some fringe players need to be loaned out or shipped out in January, they just aren’t up to it.

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  • tequilamag

    Dec 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #29

    Great performance yesterday never let their heads drop.
    No evidence from yesterday that morale is a problem or that Pardew has lost the dressing room. Must be a blow for Catchy though he can comfort himself with the thought that we never took a point yesterday.

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  • DarloGeordie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #30

    Indian

    Give it up man or woman whatever you are… Shola has done a huge amount for the club over the many loyal years he has played for us. THE MACKEM SLAYER is his nickname if you can read then you will understand.

    Your slating of Shola really is boring as fuck go jog on, same old sh!t different day.

    Ps stop ringing my house I don’t want a new effin mobile phone contract

    Utter prick

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #31

    Catchy
    Good job Hernandez popped up in the last minute,you might have had to stay away for a few days had we got a result.

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #32

    Also, just want to say I hope that fergie gets a massive ban. Unacceptable behaviour.
    For the second goal:
    He said after the match, that he had the benefit of video replay, and that it should be offside because Ba was holding Johnny Evans arm.

    If he had actually watched the video replay, he would see that Johnny Evans was actually Pulling CISSES shirt, cisse (not ba) didn’t touch johnny Evans, and the referee made the right decision.

    He is still whining about it though.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #33

    Absolutly gutted we didn’t come away with atleast a point what a gutsy showing from the lads
    Massive credit has to go to tiote jr and anita they bossed the game for us along side our brazilian superstar perchinio! So happy he’s got his first goal for the toon he deserved it aftr some great performances in a toon shirt!
    Marv was fantastic and bought a real creative spark for us and if we play like that against arsenal we’ll hammer them!

    Ferguson with his number 1 cronie RVP were absolute disgraces yesterday hope fergie gets a severe touchline ban if pards can get one for “pushing” the fourth official surely fergie can get one for running the length of the pitch to verbally abuse the linesman

    Catchy
    That result must of made christmas for you vet your smiling like the cheshire cat, especially with your team, the SMB’s winning

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #34

    “I spoke with Shola Ameobi last night (Tuesday) and he said his coach did not speak with him even before going to the press,” Keshi told MTNFootball.com Wednesday.

    “But apparently, there is a clause he signed in his contract two years ago that he would not dump the team for the Nations Cup. And that is what his coach is holding on to right now.

    “But Shola has said he would speak with the coach after their game today (Wednesday) against Manchester United and get back to me.

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  • bills-son

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #35

    A brilliant performance yesteday, why? Because we had four midfield players – Bigi, Perch, Anita, Marveaux – who worked their bollocks off, always made themselves available to take a pass and kept moving the ball forward. We were far better than ManU in midfield especially in the first half.

    Why did we come away with nothing? Because we hit the woodwork twice and they got two ricochet’s in the box that went their way. You can talk all day about defensive mistakes, what about theirs? Bottom line is we suffered from the NUFC curse in these type of games – bad luck.

    A fantastic performance from a group of players who are obviously totally committed to the cause.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #36

    At this point in time the weakest link at NUFC is Michael Ashley & Derek Llambias and we are as good as our weakest link

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #37

    Indian – very true

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  • check the toastie

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #38

    Now Jonas has gone from the team, only Simmo to go and i can start to relax and actually enjoy some of the football rather than being dragged down by total mediocrity.

    Gotta say i was a little concerned about relegation a couple of weeks back, but seeing how bad QPR and Reading now are, think really we are far to good to go down, just need some deep purples back, in fact if we do offload Ba and start playing Cisse through the middle i can see us flying up the league,

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #39

    Wizard…this just goes to disprove the saying that ‘tactics doesn’t win you games players does’.

    Yesterdays game was an exampel in how tactics can make or break a game and how important a managers philosophy is – it is half the battle.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Dec 27, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #40

    Get our injured players fit and the defence sorted out – we’ll be going places.
    A lot more optimistic than a month ago

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