Newcastle Humiliated – Beaten 7-3 At Arsenal

7:51 pm, Saturday, December 29th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 271 Comments

Newcastle have now conceded 11 goals in their last two games, after leaking 7 goals at Arsenal today – and six of those goals were conceded in a short 39 minutes in the second half, after the scores were level at 1-1 at the half, and if there is any doubt where Newcastle’s Achilles heel is – there should be no doubts after this - and we need to very quickly bring in some defenders before we are trapped in an all out relegation struggle.

Newcastle again scored three goals today, as we did at Manchester United on Wednesday, but for the second away game running we scored three goals, and yet got nothing at all out of this game, and since November we have now lost seven of our last nine league games and in the last 11 league games we have a partly 7 points – worse than relegation form to be sure.

But Newcastle showed fight today, and while we were ahead three times at Manchester we were behind three times in this game, but came back to tie the scored at 3-3 after 69 minutes when Demba Ba scored his second after Sylvain Marveaux had scored Newcastle’s second goal.

For Arsenal Theo Walcott scored a hat-trick, with other goals from Giroud (2), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lukas Podolski as Arsenal tore apart the Newcastle defense in the last six minutes scoring three times after the score had been close at 4-3.

And in injury time Giroud hit the bar after 94 minutes, otherwise Newcastle could have leaked eight goals in this game.

But on this showing Newcastle need to rebuild their defense, and it’s simply not up to scratch, and remember we don’t have many excuses because only Steven Taylor is missing from the best defense we can field since early November.

Rather than describe each of the goals, which is very painful, since we conceded seven today, the video highlights of each goal are below.

We should stop using excuses for our injured players too, and we need to pick up points right now, otherwise we are going to be in serious trouble come May – Newcastle were humiliated in the last ten minutes in the game at the Emirates this afternoon and it was so painful to watch – we defended like schoolboys at the end (apologies to schoolboys everywhere) – and Alan Pardew and the coaches have a lot to do to get the lads ready for a tough game against Everton on Wednesday night.

Newcastle will have to defend a lot better in that game, otherwise we could see ourselves third bottom of the league after the game, since at the moment we are only three points ahead of third bottom Southampton, and our goal difference is now a terrible -11, exactly the same as Southampton’s.

It’s not panic stations yet – but it will get that way if we continue to lose the next few games – and finally – it’s never been easy to support Newcastle, but we should try to keep our spirits up – and a win against Everton would be great.

Try to keep the faith – there have to be better times ahead.

That’s true isn’t it?

Here are the goals.

Teams:

Arsenal (4-2-3-1): Szczesny; Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs; Arteta, Wilshere; Oxlade-Chamberlain (Giroud 74), Cazorla (Coquelin 86), Podolski (Ramsey 82); Walcott.
Subs (not used): Mannone (gk), Djourou, Rosicky, Gervinho.

Newcastle (4-2-3-1): Krul; Simpson (Ferguson 82), Coloccini, Perch, Santon; Bigirimana (Shola Ameobi 82), Tiote; Cisse, Marveaux (Tavernier 88), Obertan; Ba.
Subs (not used): Harper (gk), Abeid, Streete, Sammy Ameobi.

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271 responses so far ↓

1 Oleg G // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

That’s the right word. Humiliated
2 Joe Blog // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

I’m sure top-class, potential recruits are looking at our club and yearning to join the scrap…….
3 hugenufcfan // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

7-3 is fck disgrace. I pity the fans who made the long 200 mile trip there. defense is pathetic. Getting fck paid so much and this is the commitment shown.
May be we are a wee club with totally disenchanted fans who think their team will give their best.
4 Indian Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Pardew is wasting Cisse
5 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:53 PM

i think you pardew fans are missing the point here

we know what team we have, and we know the injuries, the problem didnt start at man u, the problem started the first game of the season, he played very defensivly with our first choice team, we could and should have won more games than we have villa 1-1 swansea 0-2 reading 2-2 west ham 0-1
these games where our points, home games against teams you have to win
playing defensivly against these teams has cost us now,

i find it strange why he goes defensively against poor team or teams he should beat, and the against man u and arsenal go out on the attack.. its madness,, and even more mad to play a high line against wollcot,,

sorry the damage was done weeks ago,, it hasnt happend over night
6 calvinho // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Watching the 1st half, I thought we’d get 3 points here. Tiote has become arrogant and needs to go back to what made him great. I feel sorry for our youngsters; what kind of education is this?
7 Nufc-83 // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM

The only positive from this is surely it will force ashley to spend and bring in new defend
8 JackButler // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Graham Carr has found some real gems over the past few years, but he really needs to find at least two defenders that Ashley is prepared to pay for or we will be in serious trouble
9 Toonleee // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Who here thinks we can stay up next season if ashley doesnt leave?
10 Toonleee // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Who here thinks we can stay up next season if ashley doesnt leave
11 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM

The way some of you are rambling reminds me of myself on a quiet day.

Try and give up NUFC I dare you. I tried, but it’s in your heart.

We are fcuked though, been saying it for a long time.

We will not be able to attract Remy, Sakho etc… and neither do we have the owner to back the team.

I fear the worse.
12 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Can’t blame Pardew lads.
This is on Ashley and Llambias, with the right investment we’d be fine. I’m absolutely gutted.
Starting to wonder whether I should’ve bought an Everton home ticket considering I live in Bristol and it’s about a six hour journey…
13 calvinho // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Catchy….very true. Pardew has to take the blame for our games earlier in the season. Reading away, west ham at home, Swansea at home, villa at home. Fulham away. We played hoof ball against these teams and played into their hands.
Yes we can say we’ve played well against top teams, but we’ve played poorly against poor teams and got the same result.
14 Toon XI // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Agree with Catchy Crabs in Whoreway This mess started months ago. Toomany bad decisions and missed points.
15 Indian Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I know i will get Pelted

But,

What was the point of bringing Ameobi
16 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Watching this Pardew interview and he looks like he doesn’t care.

No emotion, no anger, nothing.
17 yorkymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

I don’t think it’s about who we want who in the their right mind would want to sign for the shambles that is nufc,unless they are desparate
Unless they have no other offers aa la Simpson obertans Williams etc etc
18 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Euanpolo
Dec 29 – 7:38 PM
What the hell have they been doing in training this week?! Did they learn nothing from the Man Utd match? Our defending desperately needs work on because it’s not just individuals we’re defending badly as a team.

Catchy
Surely this result shows you why we’ve been setting up defensivley ffs? You wanted him to show some guts and drop jonas and go more offensive thats what has happened and look what happens to our back 4 when there not being babysat, they got torn apart!
I’d happily see all four replaced atm like!
19 WWYCD // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

toonarmydownsouth
Because he told our defenders to stop letting in goals then we shipped another 4? Thus it is his fault
20 wolfshead@toon // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

cabs will be back soon to steady the ship )
21 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

AmeobiTheMackemSlayer

what carnt you blame pardew for???
22 Joe Blog // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Beattie

Challenge accepted. I’ve tried giving up before, but the heart overrides the rationale – not this time.

It’s a pursuit I no longer gain pleasure from, even when things are going well. I’ve got other things going on.

Take care and good luck NUFC. I’m going cold turkey!
23 BelfastMagpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Only thing you can say after that.

It’s over to you Mike !

Sink or swim.
24 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

No-one will want to join us. We are terrible!
25 magpie6699 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Could be worse – we could be Aston Villa! They’ve let in 15 goals in their last 3 games, scored none – and 2 of those games were at home!
26 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Catchy @ 21

Your IQ
27 tinytoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

I agree that investment in new recruits is needed. However, I think the bigger problem in lack of organization at the back. This is the same back four as last year’s game at Chelsea where the back line was one of the most solid I’d seen wearing black and white in many a year (I don’t watch Juventus). It seems like there just isn’t an emphasis as much on the back four this season. If we buy new recruits, but the organization and effort is not there, we will continue to leak. This is down to Pardew, not Ashley and Llambias.
28 JackButler // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Why Pardew changed our formation from the second half of last season if beyond me. Ba on the left, Cisse through the middle and Benny on the right worked for us
29 Toon XI // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Sorry lads. Too many dropped points in 2012 may hang us in 2013.
30 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM

WWYCD
Ah of course how could i not see his cockney morse code! Let in 4 more it will be funny
31 NUFCarter // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:02 PM

support the team because of their success and yet think they can comment on our misfortune’ – exactly why i hate united to be fair they are getting worse but they are so lucky and all those glory supporters thinking they know everything about football because thy support them. have a few man u friends and they piss me right off they never watch united and know sh*t about them but still say they support them and laugh in my face when a team i love play shocking every week. I bloody hate Manchhester united they always have an excuse!
32 BelfastMagpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM

One of the worst defensive performances in a long long time.
33 SupaToonKid // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM

We need a CB & RB desperately in January. All focus must be put on getting them.
Knowing us though we’ll either sign nobody or just Remy when as we can all see our attack is looking good. SORT THAT DEFENCE OUT!
34 TurkishFan101 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

@TADS Jonas has not been dropped he is injured, never will pardew drop is love of his life for marvo we all know this you as well. Expect the same when Raylor is back and gosling. Gosling will yet again get in front on marvo or even bigi cause pardew says so.!
35 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

toonarmydownsouth

come on man

reading and villa are down at the bottom,, should we not have attacked them more?

at the start of the season,, if you check the teams line ups,, i have,, you will find that the team was pretty much the same as last year,,

ba moved to center,, cabaye tiote and jonas DMC hoofing the ball over there heads,,

if pardew has his 2nd choice MF passing the ball more now,, why could we not do it then,, HBA and CABAYE are 2 of the best in the prem

pardew has dug a huge hole for us
36 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

The only good news is that Mike Williamson will be back to replace Perch next week.
37 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Norwich
Tottenham
Fulham

All dismal defensive performances
We simply haven’t improved.
We’ve stayed the same as last season.
All because we have needed two quality backs and probably need three.

Unlike me to agree but Kets first comment after the final whistle was spot on.
38 NUFCarter // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

i want pardew out but apparently wanting my team to get out of these humiliating times makes me a prick?
39 magpie6699 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Said it on last blog – we have lost 7-2 to Man U, 8-1 to West Ham,and 6-2 to Man U at home – the last result was when Sir Bobby Robson was manager.
Man U lost 5-0 to us – and went on to win the league, I believe. Arsenal got hammered 8 -something last season, I think??
Sh*t happens – let’s stay behind the team – and remember we have Williamson back on Wednesday! At least he can’t take the blame for today’s defending!!
40 AMEOBI // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Wait.. Why the fk can you blame Pardew? Seriously if you don’t like it.. FK off! Pardew didn’t nothing wrong, I enjoy watching football and bah boy we’ve been entertaining! Pardew out.. No way he’s doing fine just totally unlucky.

I WILL FOREVER SUPPORT MY TEAM UNLIKE MOST OF YOU CLUELESS D1CKHEEDS!!!!
41 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

phizzyJ

wrote well…..

Nobody will want to come here now…. well for now anyhow we will need to try and survive this year but I think this could be going downhill…

I am so sick of this sh1t
42 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

I said in the Summer that I would no longer support NUFC as it wasn’t a football team but a business.

I was ridiculed and tried my best to leave forever but it is impossible.

I am sure now that more people will say what I’ve been saying for a long time.

I’ll still be ridiculed but the trio of Ashley, Llambias and Pardew have to go.

Those who said Pards shouldn’t be sacked as it would make nufc a laughing stock, take a look at the defending all season long.
43 WWYCD // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

toonarmydownsouth
Exactly he wanted us to lose, he hates us, he hates our team, he only let us do so well last season so he could crush us this one, HES THE DEVIL (ala the Waterboy)
44 JP...from The Rock // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:06 PM

FATIGUE played a major role in this painful defeat. We were terrible at the back today especially Simpson and Santon. All our players were exhausted and to score 3 goals against Man U and Arsenal and still lose considering all our injuries is extremely unfortunate. Pardew has done his best with what he’s got. Foolishly we didn’t sign in the summer apart from Anita and it’s costing us big time! If we don’t buy defensive reinforcements in January we could go down AGAIN!
45 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Embarassed and Gutted ! Nuf said!
46 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Supporting NUFC actually makes me depressed when we get a bad result to which family and friends simply tell me its just a game. I try to see it that way but I just can’t. When we win I am on top of the world, however when we lose I feel like sh*t and even worse when we get hammered. I don’t know what to do
47 JP...from The Rock // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Also Simspon was crap today, he’s not a scapegoat it’s a fact, he was shite today. He continues to leave his position and leave the attacker unmarked. Against this kind of skill of course we were always going to be punished. Simpson needs to be replaced as he’s been doing this all season and last season he was always backing off the attacker allowing him to cross the ball. The only good game he’s had this season was our last game against his former club, obviously keen to impress. We can do better and need a much more consistent and quality performer at RB. We had better sign them in January!
48 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:07 PM

team v villa at home 1-1

http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/267519/ratings
49 Toon1978 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

11 goals in 2 games….ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh dear Pardew.
50 ochytoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Lets get Bramble and Boumsong back to sure up the defence.
51 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Even someone like Stefan Denswil at Ajax would be a decent signing. He can play at centre back and at left-backs. He plays like Vertonghen and would cost £3m max.
52 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Catchy – Can you blame Pardew for not signing the players in the summer that would allow us to have a solid back line. So that we’re not either, too defensive, or too attacking. But have the correct balance like we did in the second half of last season? No.
Ashley and Llambias penny pinched over a couple of million and didn’t give Pardew the players he needed to have cover for inevitable injuries and suspensions.
Ask yourself, who else out there would you rather have at the minute. We should strive for stability, and sticking with pardew will achieve that. With the right financial backing we’d be fine.
Don’t forget what Pardew did last season, masterminding us to a top 5 finish. Remember, players were brought in last summer.
53 bambams // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

do people genuinely believe Ashley will bring out the cheque book in January?

The only way he will spend is if we sell a player to finance it, i think history shows it.

Him and Lambias think they know better than all other clubs, well wake up call……

Toon played well til last 17 mins then gave up, this does not bode well for Pards.

Again before i get berated i am not suggesting Pards gets sacked but nothing would surprise me with Ashley ! Maybe a former Chelsea and England midfielder currently out of work could be the answer……Wise Chairman he is not.

Keep the faith
54 Peter // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Have you heard some of yous man get a grip. I never expected any points in these 2 games and so did many of us. We have so many positives to take from these 2 games forward wise 6 goals 2 games against top 4 is mint.
We need defenders and I mean NEED. Simpson is useless and Williamson is a good back up. Perch is never a defender so needs to stay away from that. Rb and cb in jan.

P.s to the ‘fans’ saying they had enough of Newcastle and not supporting any more. Good f’kcing riddance
55 calvinho // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Cabaye must be watching this thinking “why were we not passing the ball like this when i was playing?”
56 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I’d have Boumsong and Cacapa back. Even Paul Scharner would’ve been a sensible addition and would’ve offered a bit of height at the back.
57 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

team v swansea 1-2

http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/261675/ratings
58 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

That is that sad part Beattie 25

The worst thing is …we played well…. I kind of pity Pardew even though I am not his biggest fan. I think last transfer window has shown….true intentions for me from Fat Ash.

It shows we are there t be afloat to be a Tottenham an Arsenal…
I feel we will never win anything with that man in charge.

unfortunately today it has to be done something like PSG or City or Chelsea.

Manure are doing it by miracle and by the fact they have stability of one coach and a regime of that style of players and integration over 1000000 years….
59 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

What can Pardew do when he has to run a second line of defence as the first line is so poor ? Colo included and Krul is nowhere near his form of last season.

Nor much choice to hoof when every defender needs a midfielder/forward playing back to cover him.

Leadership on the pitch ? Was Colo talking in Spanish to the rest of the lads then ?

Pardew is at fault for many things, but failing to strengthen the defence is not one of them
60 check the toastie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Did any of you pricks watch the game, it is as well i have seen us knock the ball about for the first 75 minutes at Arsenal ever, individual errors have cost us dear, and unfortunately we give up the ghost after 80 minutes, a bit disappointing however in comparison to Fulham/Wigan/Everton/Brighton/ away last year it was massive improvement.

GIVE YOUR F##KING HEADS A SHAKE.

If we continue to keep the ball and knock it about like we did today and cut out the stupid mistakes (basically drop Simpson) then we will climb the league.

Much more positive after watching the last two games. however think this 7 goal concession might make Pardew go back into his shell, hope not,
61 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

I must have been watching a different game to everybody. For 75 mins we were the better team. We only lost the plot in the last 15 mins. We played midweek and they did not. we lost this game due to tiredness. No need to panic. As long as we keep showing the same commitment we will be fine. Our injured stars will return in January and we will climb the league. No reason we cannot finish top 8. Think about it: For 75% of the games away to manure and Arsenal we were the better team. We are a top 4 team when all our players are fit. Our right back is woeful and so is Cisse. Anybody who thinks Cisse is a better srriker than Ba is being spiteful because Ba wants to leave and play at the top level. Cisse cannot trap a bag of cement.
62 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

That was horrific, one of the worst defensive displays I’ve saw from us.
You could put this down to tiredness and Arsenal not having to play on Boxing Day but that was simply unacceptable.

Putting Ba in CM was the killer blow. They scored 3 times after that.
And once again we made silly mistakes. Tiote doest not warrant a place in our team, he gives the ball away far too much and consistently gets booked. Simpson just doesn’t care anymore. I’ve usually been defensive of him but he needs to go.

We left ourselves too open once again too. I’d rather lose 1-0 than 4-3 or 7-3. If there was reason needed for us to buy defenders in January then those 2 games have given one. They need to be real quality too, but who’s going to want to come here after that?

We had the chance to move forward in the summer and have taken a huge step back. Its time to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and get out of this mess because we are in a relegation battle. Nobody can argue with that. We all thought we were too good to go down the last time but we did go down. The same can happen again.

Next month will be crucial to our season. If we fail to bring in the required quality then we are in even more serious trouble. I really worry for us. Some of you may feel I’m overreacting but things are looking bleak at the moment. We have lost 8/10. Something needs to change.
63 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274227/ratings

west ham line up

0-1
64 Mister Tuff // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

online @73 previous post.
You ask whether Percy Parsnip will resign. No way Jose. Part of Percy’s make up is his cockiness/arrogance/stubbourness with the self belief he has the gift of the gab. He would only be teased out of SJP with the encouragement of the pitchfork towards his arse.
As to who might replace him – some posters have suggested specific names, I shudder at some of the suggestions and shudder even more when I know the selection panel will be Ashley and Dastardly. If there was someone who would give the club a lift just by being there,someone like Mourinho, I would say get him.
We’ll probably end up with somebody like Steve Kean resulting in further trauma years for Toon fans. The future is bleak.
65 NUFCarter // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

to be a good manager you have tobe tactical and know your players well. Pardew is clueless. its really not hard to spot the faults in the team yet he still plays players out of position and plays th likes of gutierez every week
66 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Also whilst I am being outspoken, I truly believe the weak link in our defense is Colo.

This season he has been very poor and not looked a leader. He doesn’t communicate, organize and seems to be elsewhere mentally.

It is easy to pinpoint Willo, Simmo and Santon but they try their best, Colo doesn’t seem to be giving is all.

As a 30+ plus player, if we could get £10-£15 million for him I’d take it.

We need a leader, a big presence who can shout at people and lead with passion.

I think if we could possibly pull it off it would be better to get M’bwia and Sakho from the sale of Colo back to Argentina.

And whilst we are at it we should send Guti back as well.
67 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Catchy
Thats your opinion i think the lack of depth has cost us
Im not saying pardew is a perfect manager but tell a manager that would do well with one hand tied?
68 JP...from The Rock // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:13 PM

AmeobiTheMackemSlayer – Spot on. Pardew can’t really be blamed for the results as we are playing in Europe and injuries were inevitable. The lack of knowledge of the game by our owner is costing us big time. It hurts to see us suffer so badly like today but I didn’t expect us to score more than one yet we scored three! Sadly our tired legs showed and got punished by both terrible defending and fatigue. Fatigue that could have been avoided had we bought players in the summer. We MUST SIGN in January!
69 AMEOBI // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Catchy,

I’d love to rip your throat out you little rat, fk off!!!!
70 Mister Tuff // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:14 PM

jimiley @61 jim you first sentence was correct.
71 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Check the toastie
100% agree with you there mate
72 Spreadthetoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I do not buy the excuse of new signings re: our defense……yes we definitely need some bodies over the line but the actual defending performances have been shocking, absymal and this result today is probably the penultimate nail in the coffin for Pards. QPR bought him time, but to score 6 away from home and not get a single point and concede 11 is just not good enough. The same defensive players did very well last year…..the only change I see are the tactics and formations…….well that’s APs department. He should take responsibility and if not then he does not deserve to be here. Also MA/DL hope you had a gr8t chrimbo you miserable fcuks…….cough up!
73 yorkymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Some good news working forward I think we will finish on 39 points enough to see us safe but only just we are in for some great games it’s neve dull at the toon
74 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:15 PM

JP…from The Rock

Nice to see some sense on here instead of the usual “PARDEW OUT” nonsense
75 lucasnufc // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Check, spot on. I really don’t understand how we can say Pardew tactically arsed this up. If you ask me, his tactics against Man U were spot on, to attack and take the game to them. We can’t defend so we concede 4. Today, plan was to slow the tempo and try and control the game. We did that, scored 3. Can’t defend, we concede 7. Should Pardew work on the defence? Absolutely? Should we bring in defenders? Absolutely. But the last two games, we have played well, some people need to stop the knee-jerking. We’re all concerned, stupid overreactions help nothing.
76 ochytoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:16 PM

3 players in, 0 out at the minimum in January.
77 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:16 PM

What are the odds on the Toon going a whole season without scoring from a corner? Must be worth a punt? What are they doing in training? Hit it long to Willo at the back post and hope? Is that what Pards is getting paid 50K a week for?. Jesus!!!!!
78 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Pardew is as much to blame for the lack of transfer movement in the Summer as anyone.

Ashley didn’t invest, Llambias didn’t negotiate and Pardew didn’t put enough pressure on those above.

For me the man feared for his job and now he doesn’t care.

Look at the post match interview, joking with the female host asking questions. He had no passion, anger or embarrassment.

Talk all you want about fatigue, but it is there job. Do you think soldiers on the front-line get a day off? Excuses, excuses. Tiredness does not explain the lack of heart.
79 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Beattie
I dont want to and i dont 100% but i think you have a point about colo
He’s not vocal enough at the back and doesnt seem to be a leader, he should of checked santons run on the first goal and there have been a few moments like that he also seems to be getting dragged out of position easily
Hopefully its a proplem that can be remedied with the purchase of a top CB
80 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I think I’m going to go play Fifa and try to forget.
Bring on Everton.
81 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:18 PM

AMEOBI

il be over in newcastle in feb

why not have a go
82 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:19 PM

In football teams play total shite,
Managers carry the can,
but owners are responsible.
83 blew // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Three defensive defenders needed urgently ist January, not attacking defenders.
I have watched all levels this season, from under 21s, under 18s etc.,and seen some thrashings, through bad defences, which is endemic throughout the club.
The scouting for defenders is impaired, the coaches have little to work with. We need scouts.
84 tannerabag // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM

What happened tonight has nothing to do with lack of transfers last summer. What happened tonight is all about the a completely misguided and desperate throw of the dice bt Pardew to try and get something out of the game. All well and good if you luck out, but by taking off Simpson and Bigi, he emaculated the side’s defensive capabilities; hence the humiliating rout.

I can only hope that this desperation is a reflection of the precarious position Pardew finds himself in. You could tell from the body language of the players that they couldn’t believe the substitutions.
85 NUFCarter // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM

great game from a neutral point of view.
86 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Ahahahaha catchy.
Big words over a keyboard. But seriously what will breaking my fingers so I can’t type anymore achieve?
87 yorkymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Down south

I agree re colo but what do you expect with Steve stone as defensive coach
88 bambams // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM

@74…..Agree

in fact fella i feel better now after reading all the comments than i did twenty mins ago. Feels like we only lost 5-3 at the minute !

Will leave you all with this…If we do not sign any players in January then Pards is not the right manager to take us forward. He has to be strong and make sure those two buffoons know we have needed players for two seasons now !!!! Time will tell, bid you all a good evening, tomorrow is another day and the Villa fans feel worse than we do !
89 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:21 PM

I’m not blaming Pardew for today at all but I have to say that it was him who said he didn’t want by extra defenders after Perch and Raylor got injured early on. He made that call and said we would do ok with the cover we have. He either made the call genuinely and was wrong or he was protecting the tight ar5ed owner we have. One first team player after qualifying for Europe!!!! Shambles. We all knew arsenal and man united away were games we would likely lose 8 defeats in 10 for any club is ridiculous.

Was proud of some of the effort today and more so on wednesday but ffs how many simple mistakes do we make? Tiote again have the ball away in a vital area and cost us, Simpson again was dire and cost us and santon again wasn’t watching the line for a goal. We’re our own worst enemy at times and many of the goals were avoidable.
90 JackButler // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Nice to see that some thongs never change,

Last season Pardew was useless as we finished outside the Champions League positionstry to remember we have a massive injury list, europa league to contend and no backing in the transfer market from the owner , what the hell is he supposed to do???

And for anyone thinking that either Ashley will sell up or that Pardew will walk away you are deluding yourselves.
91 JackButler // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Nice to see that some thongs never change,

Last season Pardew was useless as we finished outside the Champions League positions try to remember we have a massive injury list, europa league to contend and no backing in the transfer market from the owner , what the hell is he supposed to do???

And for anyone thinking that either Ashley will sell up or that Pardew will walk away you are deluding yourselves.
92 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM

what is sad is the fact every player we a linked with is a forward or MF

you guys go oooh id have him

the only defender you talk about is debuchy, and he has said he wont go mid season
93 Sattarbuksh // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Never posted here before but had to today for a good night’s sleep… The substitutions Pardew made in the end was justified because had anyone been through a 4-3 in the previous match would have opted to go for atleast a draw rather than loose badly as we did today.. If this was Keegan most of the lot here would have been saying that ‘atleast we tried’

I don’t agree with what he did though considering the tiredness of our team and the freshness of an Arsenal team with a midfield that easily ran out a dissapointing Tiote in the end… I would have rather kept the same team till the end and hoped for another equalizer
94 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:23 PM

I do agree with Check, for 70 minutes we were the better team but it is a 90 minute game and when you get to that point you rely on the manager to make changes to allow the team to continue to compete.

We didn’t and therefore those 70 minutes mean shit all to me.

Much like a poor 90 minutes and a win. 3 points is what matters and I am more disheartened by the awful football, lack of heart and give up attitude in the final 20 than I am buoyed by the 70 minutes of decent football.
95 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Why do we dwell in the manse of Mike Ashley???

Does he admire Hieronymus Bosch???

Does he read Dante in bed??

Now we lurch towards the relegation numbers.

Thank you Reverend Ashley.
96 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:23 PM

We kind of had this discussion this morning.
Manure and Gooners have the best record for scoring in the last ten minutes and the fewest goals conceded.

We run out of steam last ten minutes, have done in too many games this season and last season.
Lack of consistency is down to losing concentration, lack of stamina and as some guys are now posting – lack of leadership. Mr Motivator is needed on the pitch to hold the line. So who is he for us then ?
97 Ashton // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:23 PM

First half we played quite well. With good passing football and movement. We had more possession and looked very comfortable. In the second half we were good too up until Pardew changed the formation by replacing Bigi with the donkey that is Shola. We just collapsed after this change.
98 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:23 PM

I said this a few days ago,

We had a poor start to the season. Up to the Southampton game we couldn’t get a team together, we couldn’t get any form, we were disrupted by Europe, we were playing badly.

Since then, our performances have increased massively. No one fan argue that. The last 6 games or so have been fantastic peformances. On par with the best of last season. Difference is, just as we begin to hit form, we have low confidence, we slacken defensively, we get even unluckier than usual and we hit some very tough teams.

Play the way we have for the last few games, get our injured players back, get a couple of defenders, don’t lose anyone, and we will finish mid table.
99 Sattarbuksh // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Shocking defending though.. definitely need reinforcements there
100 kevymartins // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Tuesday is the day are season will turn around..If not then were fu ck ed haha
101 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM

To all of those saying that we played well.

To me, playing well would mean being good offensively and defensively. We were only 1 of those today.

Offensively, we were great. We passed the ball, kept possession and looked a threat. We were rewarded with 3 goals because of this.

Defensively however, we were truly abysmal. We can all say that we need to cut out the mistakes but if the same ones are being made then that point is no longer valid.
102 Mister Tuff // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM

beattie has just mentioned about a leader on the pitch – this was also the subject of some posts last week. We do not have an on field leader -someone in the mould of Nolan. It was apparent today that after the “collapse” we were all over the place -there have been signals of this happening previously but today it was very evident.
103 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Beattie – after 70 minutes we should have brought on substitutes to see the game out:

Problem is we had nobody on our bench. The 11 on the pitch plus a couple on the ench that were brought on are all we have left.!
104 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I do not think Pard gives a monkeys. His boss will not spend on players and Pards is waiting for the multi million pound bullet. Pards wins either way. He is a lotto winner waiting for his pay day or his new players. Happy new Year Alan!!! I suspect he is waiting for his new year pension payment in the Spring. And then we go down and Alan buys a villa in the sun. Big Sam and Souness etc all doing fine as well!!!
105 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Conaldo my worry is that we ease off as we play lesser teams. I think any confidence from Man U has now been knocked out of us.
106 kevymartins // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Debuchy and douglas and another cb in williamson out
107 carl // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:28 PM

lucas
I agree. I normally read and don’t post because unfortunately there are so many clueless types on here. There are only a handful of fans worth reading who see to know anything about football:
Bills-son, Tads, Ian Toon, Tsunki, Tequilla . The faults are as Tads said earlier largely defensive. Those blaming Pardew really are delusional or have an agenda like young Catchy and young master Tuffers. Pardew said last May that we needed full back and CH restructuring. Nothing’s changed cracks are starting to show elsewhere because we have no depth in the squad. It’s not rocket science. Don’t listen to catchy and his deranged disciples. They are only to happy because they have an agenda. Fortunately there are enough football wise types I mentioned to support us through until Ashley spends.
Even JFA is talking sense.
108 Toon1978 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Not Pardews fault, its Ashleys.
109 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I’m telling you, Colo is the issue.

Whether it is Willo, Simmo, Raylor, Saylor, Santon or Perch, those boys need a leader.

Last year he was that, this year he is disinterested and not leading those who need it the most.

When Colo’s head goes, the whole team flops.

The capitulations of last season were due to this. The same applies for this season.

His head has gone completely.

Take for example the Simpson throw. Simpson is not an intelligent footballer, Colo is. It needed a leader to saay ‘Simmo NO! Throw it short.’

Tiote seems to have fallen out with the team and seems to play for himself. We need a player like Sakho who would grab Tiote by the scruff of the neck and shake things up.
110 go toon go // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Cheick Tiote: get out of here.You don’t belong to this club.
111 Den123 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM

We need 2 full backs and a centre back in Jan or we are most certainly down. Trying not to over react as we did pretty well attack wise and were still in it at 4-3 in the 84th minute but I don’t think i’m over reacting when I say our defense is shocking. Can’t blame Perch as he’s not a CB or Colo as he’s the only true class defender we have but the rest are letting the team down big time.
112 bambams // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM

You know what really bloody bugs me…We had the chance to buy some very good players in the summer when we had momentum….But no Ask and Lambs (and prob Pards) knew better and would not pay those extra 4 or 5 million

Bloody clueless inept amateurs!
113 Chris // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Today highlighted the need for a deeper squad and more capable defenders!! Please spend this window or we face a big fight to stay in this league!!!!
114 carl // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Mister Tuff
You could help and support the team by not disrespecting the manager.
You accused SAF of being a bully and a hypocrite. You need to reflect on your behaviour. For a mature man you need to be respectful please!
115 warwick // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:32 PM

This is my observation make of it what you will:
Colo approaches pardew last week with players frustrations at style of play. Pardew lets the players play their more preffered open game.
We ship 11 goals in two games, pardew perhaps proved right with his defensive mindset perhaps?
Maybe he realises the defence isn’t up to it..
116 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Ashley is NUFC. He will torment us for many years. He does not care whether we are a Championship club. He can afford the loss as long as we suffer. If we get relegated he no longer pays big bucks to the players as the contracts are changed.
117 go toon go // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Pardew.Take Perch and Williamson and go to npower championship right now.
118 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Conaldo

We would’ve brought Ameobi on for Cisse to keep the ball in Arsenals half and brought Tavernier on for Tiote and out Perch into DM.

We had little options but what Pards did was terrible.
119 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Nick9 – we should aim to keep this intensity for the rest kf the season. and that us down to Pardew motivating, the players performing, Ashley investing, but more importantly, the fans backing.

All these fans that said at the start of the season they would rather lose and play well etc, there changed there tune now hypocrites.

As I’ve said for ages, if you want to slag the team off, destroy what confidence they have left from this,
(And FYI the players are very aware of what gets said to and about them on the net),
And if you aren’t willing to stick it through the bad times, you can’t have the good times.
If you only want good times go support manure or Chelsea if you want to slag your players off go support Sunderland.

If you want to support Newcastle through thick and thin then lets get behind the lads and destroy Everton at home, infront of a packed st James with a good amosphere.
120 yorkymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Don’t worry about tiotie he will play his last game for the club against Everton and then be away on international duty an then off to pastures new probably in London town
121 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM

carl

simple question

why play defensive with your first choice team against poor teams

and then

play attcking with your 2nd choice team against the best teams

thats like telling me your not gay but f*****g a guy

makes no sense
122 carl // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Mister Tuff
It is not appropriate behaviour. You should be setting a good example.
You would not see Tequilla behaving like that. Please reflect. Thank you. You could try Pardew, Mr Pardew, Alan or even AP.
Thanks and a Happy New Year.
123 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Some so called fans on here are disgusting.

I’m off.
124 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I was laughed at this Summer when I said I’d take Nolan back, someone who needs to shake things up on field when we are losing.

We have not come back from behind to win in the PL under Pardew.

Speaks volumes.
125 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

So my opinion on recent weeks would be that we have improved going forward but have become worse at defending. We need to find a balance for the two and go from there.

Defenders are an absolute must in January ( not that we didn’t know that anyway). I seriously hope Ashley and Llambias are doing something about this because we are in the mire. And once you’re down there, it’s hard to get out.

People who want Pardew sacked should remember what happened in the past when we sacked managers. It’s Ashley and Llambias who should be getting the the majority of the criticising. Pardew and the players have all played their part in our downfall but those two are the most responsible.
126 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

jimiley you are right.

It would have been better if we had crashed under Shepherd ( would that have happened anyway? Shepherd says not)

By now we would have recovered and not had him and Lmabias..
127 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:37 PM

We must support NUFC through thick and Ashley. Oh yeh??? I stopped spending £120 a game travelling from London when Ashley stopped spending. I shall return when the owner commits as much as I did.
128 carl // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Mister Tuff
Do you not see that by aligning yourself with the likes of Catchy, Beattie people just think your clueless. Anyway I have tried to be helpful. You used to be such a thoughtful poster. I used to enjoy reading your posts before you lost your way . Good bye .
129 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

carl

The leadership issue is also about the defence holding the line towards the end of games.
Top clubs have good leaders on the pitch. One of the things Gerrard is still world class despite the impact of age is that he leads by example and is always g-ing them up on the pitch
130 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

It is either play well, attack, score and get beat thanks to a dodgy defense or play poor, defend, not score and get beat thanks to a dodgy defense.

We need a new defense.
131 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Conaldo

your so wrong

your making it up

i said the other day, v man you,, the best game iv seen us play under him and we lost,,

today, i did not see up play like we did at man u,, then i watched a team fold

today i seen glimpse of us playing well,, v man u we where unlucky, today we wernt,,

they could have had 12 goals but scored 7

simpson plays every game,, why

who picks him,, dirk lameass???
132 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Positives

1) For a large part we kept the ball on the ground which was enjoyable to watch.

2) Marveaux was nothing short of sensational and Obi worked very hard and showed real pace.

Negatives

1) We really need to play a sweeper. Not play offside because we stink at it.

2) I guess there is no timeline for Pardew to realise Cisse and Ba don’t work together, apart from 433 with Ba out left, especially wasting cisse as a right winger!

3) Passing is better but there is very little movement or support off the ball. Non – existant triangles.

4) Simpson please just go and masquerade as a footballer somewhere else.

5) Santon, sadly in reality very litte end product

6) Crazy subs with 15 to play

7) Tiote – what the hell is going on there? Come back Anita

8) Pardew desperately needs a plan B, C and D

9) The ” no more goals” was cowardly and backfired disastrously.

10) Do we stick or twist with Pardew with half a season left ?
133 wreker16 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Beattie
Get sakho to shake things up? Maybe not quite but I get your point.

Apparently he’s a tw@t though
134 kevymartins // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

We need to spend big time ..If everton does us we will be in the bottom 3
135 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM

And do not forget we have the pleasure of Ashley intoroducing Wonga next season. What fun it will be to have them stamped on our shirts.
136 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM

@125

We would’ve recovered had we went bust under Shepherd?
It’s not like we would’ve liquidated or anything and be playing in the conference north…
137 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Conaldo
Spot on mate!
138 kevymartins // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

We stick with pards

keep playing ba with cisse there time will come

and bring in debuchy and douglas

williamson out

injuries coming back we will be fine
139 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Why don’t you think we would not recover from that?
140 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

carl

you really do need to get a sense of humour
141 wreker16 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Rotonda
Great post. I would pretty much agree with all those points.
We don’t need a sweeper though just good centre backs
142 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

We are stuck with Pardew as a consequence of having an owner with no ambition.

If he really does have ambition to make NUFC a CL team he needs to sack Pardew and invest in players, coaches and a top manager.

Sad;y this season show fat mike and his puppets for what they really are, charlatans. I bought it for a long time due to my blind love for NUFC but all those thinking’ Mike wouldn’t let us do a Portsmouth/Leeds… what happens if we are relegated?

We don’t have the characters to stay and rescue us a second time.

It is time to stick or twist and I think Ashley will most likely stick on a 15 hoping the banker goes bust.

We are on the precipice of a cliff and falling from it will give destroy us.

But it is ok because we have played well for the past 6 games.

You utter morons.
143 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Rotonda
Point 9) why is asking us not to concede cowardly?
144 geordiejamie89 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Newcastle are getting exactly what they deserve thinking they can keep up in this league without investing in players every season, especially with the Europa League to add to the fact. Yes there has been lots of injuries, but what do you expect when you stretch a tiny squad over too many competitions.
I don’t think Newcastle have too much to worry about with terms of relegation, but this season at best will be very poor.
And if Newcastle don’t invest in at least three players in January, then the rest of the season will remain as poor as it is now. RB CB and CM needed.
145 stuart no9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Now we know why we are losing so many games ” no more goals ” shouts pardew after we have just levelled at 3-3 We end up 7-3 What a total dick – telling his team not to score any more goals. Total dick – total loser – proven
146 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Anyone thinking we should have just gone bust under the Shepherds take a long hard look at Leeds, Portsmouth and Rangers.
Crazy crazy idea
147 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Conaldo 119 – of course if we are to lose we would want to go out fighting in style. The trouble is we have lost 8 games of the last 10 played and were only half way through the season. We only lost 11 in the whole of last season. 18 games left now, need to win 10 to have an acceptable season. Anything less and it will always be remembered as the season that failed of opportunity missed. Ashley, Pardew and several of the players are all wearing very thing.
148 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Wrecker

He is a twat, a cock and an arrogant bastaard.

But he is a leader, has outrageous passion and boy can he play football.
149 wreker16 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Beattie
Fair enough then. He is a solid centre back
150 kevymartins // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

were morons?

your the 1 saying pardrew should be sacked

pardrew is great for us

come back with a smile on your face when you wake up on tuesday morning and see debuchy and douglas standing outside st.james with black and white shirts.
151 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

stuart

So Pardew told us to score no more goals ? Or did he tell the team to concede no more goals ?
152 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Geordie Jamie you talk of Newcastle as though youre an outsider? No “we need this” it’s Newcastle need this etc. Sound more like a pundit than a fan, not knocking you like but I found I strange reading your comment
153 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

@138
Are you serious? You’ve got to be a troll.
I don’t think anyone would have wanted us to have gone bust under Shepherd.
154 Tsunki // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Hmmmm. Where to start…(fingers dance tantalisingly over the keyboard). OK, first off, Joe blog or beardo or whatever – dont come back, OK?

Leave Defence out for the minute – Excellent performance for 70 minutes from our midfield and forward line, Marveaux, Obertan (3 assists 2 games ha ha) Ba hungry as anything Tiote (mostly) pretty commanding and even with Cisse treading water on the wing we gave Arsenal at home some worrying times.

Defending. I believe I am vindicated in the criticism of Simpson by virtue of him being nowhere on the park for goals 2,3 and 4, all virtually ran in to the byline the same way. Simpson was tired from the Manc game, and shot tonight. Santon, also tired from the Manc game, not keeping his eyes on Colo’s line and playing his man onside, again.

In answer to those who promoted Santon to RB, that would be demonstrably a no at this time, him and Perch lost for one goal at the back right hand side. Not only did Tav look like a lost kitten in a cage of fighting dogs, adding to the subbing of Marv made bringing on Shola a waste of time. Ferguson had little to do as the threat continued on a very ragged right hand side. The comedy of players falling over themselves and each other illustrated a very fatigued side with absolutely no clue where they were.

Losing the ball comically in deep in midfield (Tiote of course) leading to a goal with face-palming embarrassment did not help.

For those blaming Pardew for being defensive and playing Jonas and not bringing on Tav, ruddy Abeid, and whatever he does please drop Williamson, tell me how you would rather come out of a game, losing by the odd goal in a pretty dire way, or emerging from not one but two sparkling humiliations in 3 days? I would rather hold my head up than get into the guinness book of records. I really wish Willo had been in there today.

Bottom line – we need some top-notch defenders who above all primarily defend first and foremost. We have plenty of talent in midfield and attack, not many teams would go to OT and the Emirates and bag 6. MA should tell Del he is out first before Pards if he does not accomplish this in January. It would be a very cruel blow to add to the dire defensive situation, which is beyond Pardew’s control now, by sacking the manager.

We should stop all this talk about sticking this or that untested youngster on and going all out for attack and start thinking sensibly about why Pardew has been protecting that back line with a highly defensive midfield for so long. I didnt mention Colo because I know he is a great defender but any defender in the world will be lost when those around him are just not up to it, and at times simp(son)ly negligent. Perch was simply done in by the 2nd half after his effort the other day.
155 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Yes Yes Beattie you get it.

This freak Ashley will sink us more Shepherd ever did. Look Shepherd built the Park up. What has Ashley done — relegate us, humiltae our heroes and never speak to the fans.
156 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:51 PM

beattie

west ham seem to have run out of steam a bit and are sinking almost as bad as we are. Cabs has scored as many as Nolan this season despite being out injured.

Take the point though we need a leader desperately
157 kevymartins // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Newcastle are stupid they don’t know how to time waste …at 3-3 they should have been making silly passes around the back 4 for 10-15mins instead of attacking and leaveing us open with walcott sitting there bloon heads
158 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Ive not posted on this site now for what must be years, due to a lack of time and whatever, but i try my best to keep up with whats goign on and reading Eds wonderful articals. However todays game has just pushed me to the point of commenting. Today was not Pardews fault, he played it tactically spot on. Today was another game we scored 3, yet lost. The reason why is that there is no organisation at the back, krul was sh*te. He knows hes first choice, is being sloppy, and doesnt organise the defence enough, i dont even know where simpson was, because he wasnt in the gaping hole ont hat side of our box for each arsenal attack. infact the only defender who at least looked like a defender was santon. As for colo, i hate to say it as he was one of my favourites last season, but he is NOT a leader/captain, is far too slow now, his positioning this season has been attrocious, and has been responsible for half our goals this season, think he may me ont he downhill slope, sale in january, same for simpson and williamson, bring in douglas, m’biwa, and dubuchy and we might be getting somewhere. And to those who slate stevie taylor when hes around, I for one think hes our best cb by a mile, and that we’re desperately missing his passion, leadership and defensive abilities, and it doesnt half show atm! Get harps back between the sticks, for the organisation at least, as krul needs to shape up, as do the rest of the defence, rant over.
159 yorkymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Have just watched some clips of the game ,I must be mad but was struck by how slow Santon is to get back after his headless chicken runs forward,I do wonder if he is actually good enough as a defender and is not getting the focus he should in terms of weakness because of the clown at the other side ,but I am now thinking he is not really helping at the moment maybe better with a protector in front but because he runs fast and direct looks better than he is ?
I think we need a couple of full backs not just one
160 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM

kevymartins

IF that happens I’ll will apologies for doubting Ashley.

It will not. Even if it did Douglas and Debuchy aren’t going to rescue this sinking ship.

Douglas isn’t the player we need at this moment. We need a fighter not a big Brazilian with a temper.

We need a Samba, a Sakho, an M’bwia, a Kouyate etc…

We need serious investment not a player going out of contract and looking for a payday.

We need someone who want’s to come here for footballing reasons and can play football straight away.

Come back to me and apologise when we see nobody Tuesday morning other than Mike Ashley’s helicopter pilot taking off to take one of ours somewhere.
161 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Schwefelberg

Oh yeah the shepherd who paid owen £110k a week
shepherd couldn’t stop talking!! short memories there.
Not a huge ashley fan, but please shepherd was a nightmare.
162 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Tsunki
Excellent post. I fully agree with that. Especially the part where Llambias is out before Pardew if he fails to bring in the required quality next month. I couldn’t have said that better myself.
163 stuart no9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Ba humbug- In his interview after the game he explained why he was shouting at his players to park the bus and don’t go for any more goals
164 woodsee // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM

A bigger worry is players who might of wanted to join us will look at the complete plight we are in and say sod that for a laugh,also can i just say one of the worst players for us this season has been Krul
165 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Super I’m no troll.

I didn’t say I WANTED us to go bust.

As a ‘what if’ it might have been better in the long range. Why not?
166 Ian Toon // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Rotonda
Maybe you should listen to some of the posters I mentioned. They appreciated just what Jonas was contributing to the defence. Pardew was only too aware in May the weaknesses in the side. Nothing has changed. Ashley agreed to the purchase of Anita largely because he saw him as an appreciating asset. You have very few answers to the problems. Your a poster who is more intent in trying to continually prove a point. Pardew has had to paper over the cracks. He has done a good job in difficult circumstances. All you and your gang are doing is driving the more knowledgeable types off the blog. I have an excellent sense of humour your a great joke. I am a reader not a poster . Goodbye.
167 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:58 PM

If anything this loss might be a double edged sword.
Yes it’s humiliating, but if it strengthens APs case for bringing in new quality defenders and we get a better window because of it then it may be worth it.
I’d hoped for two draws last two games but that was optimistic.
If Mashley can finally see that we are absolutely desperate to strengthen the defence and that apart from that AP has turned around the worst parts of our play from the early part of the season then we might get our new defenders.
We all know we need Alderwerield level quality not Douglas.
168 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Rotonda yes of course I do not argue his bad aspects. But is this endless careening and wild skidding any more fun?

Had Shepherd kept the club it might have been sold to a more gallant owner.
169 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Schwefelberg
If Shepherd had not sold the club we would’ve went bust, everybody knows that. He left a sinking ship and he didn’t want to be around when it sank.
170 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Tsunki
Top post
Agreed lamearse should be on his bike before pardew
171 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Shepard had big dreams but not enough money.

At least he over spent chasing dreams rather than under spend chasing mediocrity.
172 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Stuart

Haven’t heard that, but parking the bus usually means DO NOT CONCEDE.
173 wreker16 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Whilst there is so much negativity and everyone is so angry, I would like to commend our recent attacking.

Scoring 6 goals in 2 matches against some of the best teams in the country, should also secure you 6 points.

Whilst admittedly the defence needs to be improved upon, these games were against good teams, no excuse, however they were. If we don’t sign at least 2 defenders ten we are well and truly screwed.

However going forward, despite us missing Ben arfa cabaye and Anita, we scored 3 goals today.

Marveaux was class, that pass was ridonculous. Obertan, IMO, played well including setting up marvs goal. Ba (technically) scored 2 which is good for any striker. And cisse………. He’s not a winger, he is complete b011ocks on the wing, y he plays there I have no idea, he should be in the box poaching, if that means he has to share 1 striker slot, so be it.

I don’t see those fans that wanted attacking football with an increased chance of losing anywhere.

Never mind eh? Onwards and upwards
174 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

According to Pards on the tele, we lost because we were tired. How predictable. At least Alex F does not trot this bollocks out every week like Pards. Manure havine been playing midweek in Europe for ages. Take the pay off Pards and leave us… along with Ashers!!
175 woodsee // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Ian,why sign an 8 yr contract,knowing full well your not gonna get the backing from fatboy slim and gonzo from the muppets,that tells you all you need to know about pardew
176 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Pardew would get 1 years pay only if sacked, did every one know that?
177 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Schwefelberg

It may have been sold to another owner, the Arabs who own Man City wanted to take over but were put off because of Ashley adding the clubs debt to the sale price. I don’t think they wanted to pay an extra £180m.

Needless to say we were heading into the abyss and when we were relegated many of us feared the worst.
178 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

8 defeats in 10 games and Everton next. Any need to panic. NOOOOOO. We are doing fine. Defence is great. 8 more years to go.
179 Ian Toon // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

wood see
He’ll get the backing Be patient. Off.
180 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

tads

with our defense, staying offensive was our only chance as has been proved in 2 games where we had the opposition worried but reverted to type.

our defense can’t shut up shop period.
181 geordie157 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:05 PM

For 85mins we more than deserved at least a point. Right back and centre back in Jan and we can climb the table quite quickly.

Not sure what Pards could have done to help the defence, Obertan didnt track back much and Cisse is not a right winger. I was thinking at 3-3, maybe take off Cisse and put Tav on the right to help Simpson.

Hopefully we’ll beat Everton.
182 Toon1978 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Tsunki

All the fault of Jonas today……ohhh hang on hahahaha
183 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Well its not my business to support Shepherd. The points are moot anyway.

We just wonder where we’d be if Ashley had not come.
184 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

yes that 8 years is a joke. as beats says it’s only 1 year, so what was the point.
185 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Jimley
Ferguson had the option of making several changes today from wednesday
186 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:07 PM

My main worry is that it is Delboy doing the negotiating as he is part the problem not part the solution
187 sula // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:08 PM

looool IAN TOON please mate go and get a room with pardew. Go and ask pardew why he cannot get his back 4 to defend its as simple as that injuries are there yes we can all see but that doesnt mean you go into every game without sorting out the problem did you see pardew tonight sort out the problem noooo he didnt did he call any of the back 4 to say listen that left hand side is killing us no he didnt. so what did he expect. This is not a new problem IAN this problem has been there all season. Colo hasnt been the leader we know him to be since he has signed his contract he has been way below par. This is NEWCASTLE UNITED we have seen some of the best players in the world come here and pleasure the greatest fans in the world and since when did people like PARDEW get a chance to manage this club oh yes since twats like ashley came and f….cd things up.
188 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Schwefelberg
I’ve told you what would’ve happened. There would’ve been no other outcome. As much as I dislike Ashley, he saved us.
189 obatoyou // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Oh no! Timmy krul s gonna leave that make me sad
190 Spreadthetoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Right…..I’ve just seen APs interview and tbf I’ve calmed down.
He explained that we were competing but our legs went in the last 20……I think that is fair enough as both our games have been open…..and Arsenal did not play on boxing day as they had a tube strike in London.
AP admitted he got the subs wrong today
AP said responsibility of defense is the whole team not just the back four……agree with Sweeper idea…………..definitely need RWB and 2 CB’s Collo has been hit and miss all season sadly no where near his best……I think Suarez really got under his skin and he has not been the same player since…..besides we need to rotate players of decent quality…
IMO that was Simmo’s worst performance….he does not have the ability to track back quickly enough and sadly most of his crosses hit the first man…….and asking us to score from a corner is like winning the lotto!
Both SAF & Wenger have stated NUFC as a good team….and these guys do not usually say it unless they mean it.
It is clear to me that both Marv & Obertan are the major difference for our offensive abilities and should not be dropped IMO as they are direct and give pace. Sadly coming to the opinion that Tiote is not so passionate about the club……his performances have been really hit and miss this season. Ba and Cisse do not link up that well mainly cos of Ba, so you gotta play 1 or the other not both!
We bossed it in midfield for 70 mins, so IMO the subs were completely wrong….great up front, great in midfield……a COMPLETE SHAMBLES @ THE BACK……..need new personnel asap. I’ll back the mgr as long as MA/DL back him in the transfer market…..otherwise what’s the point!
191 stuart no9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Cum on lads lets be straight with each other – there were no positives from today’s game ( exept ba is on his way to the emirates ). We got a right f,,,,king tonking 7-3. The only positive is ” we positively got a good hiding what do you expect when your loser of a manager tells you not to score any more goals What a tosser
192 colwell // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:10 PM

We did play well today but pards has to accept the battering in the end was his fault. Taking bigi and marv off was stupid. Perch is definitely a dm now Simmo is pure shite still.

Krul has forgot he is a keeper and he can use his hands he was poor today and flapped a lot.

Obama and marv were involved in everything positive we did today great game from them both such a shame we are so poor at the back.
193 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Perhaps true Super.

But we all know the world of finance (heh heh wrote fiance first) is full of sickening lies.

Maybe Shepherd was greedy and incompetent.

But are these endless punches in the throat better?
194 Super Magpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Schwefelberg
Well it’s certainly better than being in the conference north.
195 stuart no9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Ba humbug. Park the bus means. Defend not attack Didn’t you know that ?
196 nufcusa // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM

stuart no9….you are the kind of guy we can never please. we lose 1-0 and we dont attack enough, we score 3 and we dont defend enough.

We have scored 6 in 2 games against two of the big 4 with a makeshift team made up of young kids, championship players and players being asked/forced to play out of position.

We have 3 top class players to return in anita, cabaye and ben arfa as well as one solid CB in staylor. Drop several of the current starters to the bench and add 2 signings and we will be fine.
197 Tsunki // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Just for the record, I almost hang my head in shame at having a go at one of our own, but you have to say things as they are and the culprits of our season are glaringly obvious. I am sure they mean, but, Derek, this is what Alan was saying when you were sent out to get some players a couple of months ago. Oh and Derek, how many casino chips can you stuff in your mouth before you choke?

Against Everton, I would expect Pardew to revert to a more defensive posture, hopefully by that time we will be rested and the back line will be composed to pack the area on command. Before Simpson is shipped out to a reasonable championship side, I wuld hope he can be made to spend the rest of the season no further forward than a thir of the pitch, and to get familiar with facing up to a winger in the right corner. Same with Santon, Pards should point to Simpson and say ‘NOT like that!’ Obertan was enough threat on the wing, he should have left him to it and saved his own legs for defending. Watch the video and learn, Davide.

Tiote should go down as 2nd choice now. Sorry Checik, but your fall from grace has been dramatic. I wouldnt drop Marv, but I would bring back Jonas.

If Pardew has actually taken heed to those on here who said he shouldnt have set Jonas up as a roving DM, I seriously think Alan has learned his lesson.
198 geordie157 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:16 PM

old news but Conor Newton set to join St Mirren on loan, be good for him to get some competitve football and hopefully stay injury free. He’s another like Vuckic and Inman who should have developed more but have had some serious injuries.
199 Harley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:16 PM

We’re missing Ben Arfa, cabaye, Anita, Taylor and don’t have any serious back up at cb.

Don’t really think we’re missing any of the other absentees, but the ones who are out are huge players for us.

We more than matched arsenal for 80 mins but caved in right at the end. A couple of defenders and some injured players back and I’m convinced we’ll have a great second half to the season.

I’m gob smacked at the negativity towards pardew etc.

Simpson, santon and tiote had shockers today. The sooner tiotes off to Africa the better and Simpson needs replacing in jan.

Marveaux was fantastic today and bigi, obertan and ba all played great.

Bring on Everton and 3 points.
200 Jonny // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Everyone criticising Tiote needs to get their eyes checked.
201 Tsunki // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Toon 1978 @ 180 dont forget Willo. Championship at best.
202 Schwefelberg // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Super You cannot know that would have happened.

Its simplistic assesment you make.

You Say ~everybody knows~ Ashley saved us.

But a better way could have been brokered.

In my world ~everybody knows~ that.
203 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Here we go again the baying mob are out in their droves sac Pardew get rid of the Ashley.
Bring back Fat Freddie
HOW can you support shepherd the fat dick got us in the shit slag us Geordies off took the piss out of us. I would not piss on him if he was on fire.

Read the facts instead of spouting off

Totals made from Newcastle United 1999 to 2005

Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall: £36,466,153

Freddy Shepherd and Shepherd Offshore: £ 8,351,298

Total £44,817,451

Figures compiled with assistance of Ian Ferguson from http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk

Totals made from Newcastle United in a 6 year period

Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall: £36,466,153

Freddy Shepherd and Shepherd Offshore: £ 8,351,298

Total £44,817,451
That equals over &7 million per year

AND

In summary what Shepherd left was a club that was losing over £30m a year, had debts of £70m, had no assets they could borrow more money against, and had a set of players on long, lucrative contracts. Ashley can get rid of the debt but the £30m annual losses with over paid players will take longer to sort out.

READ?THE?FACTS at http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk
and come on with something constructive!!!!!
204 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Ian

It’s a bit sad you coming here on a Saturday night hurling abuse and droning on again when we ‘re all feeling peed off. Your timing isn’t great so please kindly change the record and stop discrediting other people’s opinions.

Try reading it again. The sense of humour remark was adressed to Carl unless you’ve got 2 user names now

Could it be that you’re still on here because maybe, just maybe you are not quite as knowledgeable as you would like to have everyone believe.
205 ash1001 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Have said this before, will say it again, We the fans are as much of a problem as the team and management, why you may ask. Simple its because we put up with the absolute CRAP that is been served up. Ashley just laughs, Pardew knows he will get a payday whatever happens, but we the fans are thousands out of pocket.
Think on this if you took out the 10 year deal on a season ticket we start paying for next year in 3 payments times time, were we will be by then without massive investment in the team who knows.
Pardews tactics could be written on the back of a matchbox, ie get Simpson off and move Stanton to RB, last 3 games out 4, bring on Shola etc.
Simpson, Tavernier, Ferguson, Perch, Williamson, are far from been PL standard, Stanton never ever will be a fullback, get him in midfield.
Also did anyone notice that the toons goal celebrations and congratulation were limited to 4 players, disharmony or what
206 Toon1978 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Tsunki

Lol. I love the craic mate. Marveaux was really good today. I feel really down atm. I ain’t spoke to wor lass or the bairns yet lol.
207 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:22 PM

“You take November out of the calendar year and you have to say what a bloody great year we had. But unfortunately November soured it and it’s put us in a tricky position for this first half of the season.”
Quote of the day from Pardew. Can’t stand any more of his bollocks. Forget last season Pardew. Look at the standings and look at our goals allowed and goal difference. Complete shambles as far as the defense goes. He is living in a dream world. How can we go forward with this management team?
208 Slatymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Right, people! I’ve had a few beers and the sinking feeling is not subsiding in the least. Let’s get some blind positivity going. Bear in mind I know virtually nothing of the players we have been touted as interested in other than Youtube, who is most likely – Sakho/Mbwia/Douglas/ dutchbuggerwhoIcan’tremberrightnow? I reckon you-know-who (Dubuchy) is nailed on in the summer, but who’s the man/men to shore up a defence seriously lacking in confidence. Supposedly Lescott is on the market for around £8 if you believe all that talk. Sensible price, and EPL proven.
209 wreker16 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Jonny
Why? I thought he was pretty poor, lost the ball sooooo much
210 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:25 PM

stuart

To me park the bus means defend as if yer life depended on it. They shall not pass and all that. Surely the objective of defending is not to concede ?

I think you have twisted his words to blame him for the last ten minutes. No manager says ‘don’t attack at all just let four goals in’ If he’s agreed he made the wrong subs in his interview then fine I’d go with that but he’ll know better than us when players were getting real out on their feet.

The good news is that two marginal players Oba and Marv have shown up for us in recent games.
211 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Jonny are you high? Tiote has been a forking liability lately, giving away easy passes and costing us again today. Bigirimana is putting a better shift in than tiote is at the minute. Ever since his sending off against the mackems he has been f@nny @arsing about with tackles and watching his card count. Fcuk the card count we need our midfield warrior back
212 Mister Tuff // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM

carl @114/121/127.
Well I certainly seemed to have rattled your cage today with three posts all dedicated to me – I don’t know whether to say thank you or not.
your first post is about my apparent disrespect of the manager I presume by calling him Percy ParsniParp. I use this as a term of endearment -unless you have a crystal ball which tells you otherwise. It is not abusive language/words that I am using. Lighten up.
Your second post suggests I should call the manager Mr Pardew ……………….. hang on I’ll try it………………Mr Par…………………………………………………………………………………..Mr Par…………………………………………………………………………
Mr Par………………………………….snip.
Damn I just cant do it.
and lastly you say I align myself to other making me look daft but previously enjoyed reading my posts.
I align myself to no one -but if anyone posts something which I agree with why not be bold and agree as opposed to not agreeing (with some of the more “exotic” posters) and thereby not getting labelled as aligning oneself to specific “factions”.
Carl you need to chill a bit and introduce a bit of humour into your life -no disrespect intended and seasons greetings to you.
if I can be bothered over the next week I may submit a post about integrity and respect specifically as it relates to football management. It will be in respect of an imaginary person (as I do not want to get sued). Thereafter your ideas about respect may change.
213 tcbelfast // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM

oh dear,oh dear,oh dear.heres to a happier new year!!
214 stuart no9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Nufcusa – sorry mate I thought the whole idea of this football lark was to win, just to win 1 without being humiliated would be nice However you are correct we have scored 6 – the problem I ave with that is the other teams have scored 11. No points, can’t hold a lead , can’t even go level without conceding, not just once or twice or even three times . Watching your team crumble on tv is the worst thing I can imagine , If you are happy with that , I hate to say it but do you live on another river where they play in red and white ?
215 NUFC FOR SALE // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Can someone tell me what is wrong with Stanton? He looks like he just doesn’t want to be here.
216 Tsunki // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Jonny @198 – do you suggest Rose tints for the glasses then? I think Tiote was great at times, but at sea in others, and gave the ball away on cue , at least one goal conceded started with him. He looks out of synch and needs to learn when a pass is simple.

Toon1978 – Yep these are the worst of times, and the best of times in NUFCBlogland

Roll on the transfer window I have said it already but Optimism Valley will be a distant vision in my rear view mirror if that transfer window rolls by without a player bought, with a leaver or two, and a bottm 3 position. I will probaby be a Disciple of Catchy, Mayor of Neggertonshire ha ha just a joke catchy dont shoot!
217 NUFC FOR SALE // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Can someone tell me what is wrong with Santon? He looks like he just doesn’t want to be here.
218 spitfire_ // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Even if had a chance to got Douglas or Mbiwa or Sakho… after today’s result it will be impossible to convince them to join or curcus… get real! god and Carr help us.
219 Slatymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Thanks for the heads up, I’ll book an appointment at the opticians on Monday. Cheers.
220 stuart no9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Ba humbug- ill say no more – just watch the interview
221 Toon1978 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Tsunki

“Roll on the transfer window I have said it already but Optimism Valley will be a distant vision in my rear view mirror if that transfer window rolls by without a player bought, with a leaver or two, and a bottm 3 position. I will probaby be a Disciple of Catchy, Mayor of Neggertonshire ha ha just a joke catchy dont shoot!”

Hahahahahahah EXCELLENT mate.
222 whatsup // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:32 PM

was at the game today. we played pretty well overall. highlights were marvaux as a play maker. first touch and one touch passing very very good. The big issues for me. Cisse playing as a winger / right mid. doing this causes us way to many issue’s. lives the ball to often when used as an outlet from defence. not his fault. that is firmly with the manager. no excuses he should never be played there again. Simpson offers nothing going forward. this is not compensated by his ability as a defender. can’t cross at all. was seen couraged bysome if the passing and movement today. but as stated playing cussed on the wing is akin to playing with 10.5 men
223 whatsup // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:32 PM

was at the game today. we played pretty well overall. highlights were marvaux as a play maker. first touch and one touch passing very very good. The big issues for me. Cisse playing as a winger right mid. doing this causes us way to many issue’s. lives the ball to often when used as an outlet from defence. not his fault. that is firmly with the manager. no excuses he should never be played there again. Simpson offers nothing going forward. this is not compensated by his ability as a defender. can’t cross at all. was seen couraged bysome if the passing and movement today. but as stated playing cussed on the wing is akin to playing with 10.5 men.
224 Slatymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Here’s a question then, as my last post was completely ignored, how many in the banner above should be here next season?
225 Toon1978 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Marveaux cross for Ba goal was quality.
226 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:33 PM

All those being negative tonite need to reflect. We have come a long way in three years. We need to be patient and build on our momentum. Rome was not built in a day. We can achieve great things as long as we keep faith in Alan, Mike and Derek.
227 yorkymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:33 PM

For sale
I think that davide needs a supportive wide man who will track backand protect his run s
Also he is really a right back noot left
This may also help
228 Rotonda heights // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:33 PM

If Pardew doesn’t feel supported, why doesn’t he just leave on principle?
229 Toon1978 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Slatymag

12 of them.
230 manxpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:38 PM

bad end result obviously but we matched them for most of the game with a totally depleted squad with only 2 days TRAINING,REST AND TACTIC ANALYSIS some “fans” are shocking on here and i only hope this blog doesn’t amount to the majority of our fan base!
willo the “sunday league player” in the team today we imo wouldn’t have conceded that many!
jonas has been massive loss i remember arguing with transfer sage about the support he brings to our left backs wether it be santon raylor or joe bloggs he sure as hell shores up that side!
we’ve prooved over the last couple of games that we can score goals but i think not only under perdew but since hughton we haven’t had a balanced side defencevly or in midfield and the only people to blame for that is ashley and lamearse!
231 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Jimiley @223 we have come a long way in 3 years but in which direction? Right now and for this whole season so far I can’t tell. Is 15th place some kind of accomplishment? A -11 goal difference and allowed 37 in 20 games. I just don’t see what we are accomplishing that is good for the club. We are a shambles at the back and have been for the first 20 games. Colo has no support whatsoever. Willo is hopeless, Perch is even worse as a CB, Simpson doesn’t belong in the prem and Santon can’t defend. I think we are heading for disaster with this owner/managing director pair.
232 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:42 PM

The arsenal game proves that Jonas has been a great loss to us. I do not believe we would have lost the game if he had been playing. he runs and runs and runs. Defensively brilliant!!!
233 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Geordie Two,
we are in the Prem playing attacking football and being entertaining. Four year ago we were in the Championship. we shud be grateful to Ashley and Lambias.
234 nufcusa // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

stuart no9 – nobody says we are happy to concede 11 but in previous seasons we have conceded 5 at both venues without reply.

See the positives in that a depleted side went to both teams and looked dangerous. Obviously the defensive shpe of the team is not good, but as stated in my previous post….this is not our first team. It is great to see bigi, marv and obertan having better games but none of the 3 would be in many toon fans starting 11.

Lets see what the next 4 games bring. They have a more realistic chance of a points haul . I predict:

Ecerton – draw
Norwich – draw
Reading – win
Villa – draw

6 points would see us pulling in the right direction as not many beneath/around us will get more/as many in the same time frame
235 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Don’t buy it anymore jimiley. Ashley has had his chance and now he is exposed for what he is. As for jonas he has been terrible this season. Has lost all pace and often doesn’t support Santon when he goes forward. I used to be a big fan of his but not this season. Looks like he has retired and forgot to tell the club. We definitely would have lost with him in the lineup. This team is going nowhere with Ashley in there. We will be lucky to end up 15th with this defense. Sad to say and sick of looking at SD hoardings. It’s a disgrace to the ground and the club.
236 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Nufcusa,

10 points out of 42 is not good. You could say its pitiable. Sackable even! But our manager will never be sacked.
237 hotdog // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I might have said this before “rip it up and start again” night lads I’ve had a good sup and an off to bed!
238 NUFC141 // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Root cause for e plight we are in now is mike ashley. If he tinks spending little is enough to do well again like last season, tink again. His motive for buyin newcastle is simply to promote his own brand. If he really “into” football, he can 1st start by getting a really gd manager then building e team. Its all down to e passion n spending e cash. Disappointed.
239 Slatymag // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

12? I reckon out of the banner Vuckic should be loaned out as he’s never really stepped up, Amalfitano loaned, Sammy loaned, and Jonas and Williamson sold. Up until a week ago I would’ve included Obertan but he seems to have got his backside into gear. I know this will annoy some folk but as we are never gonna splash mega-money, Simpson is as good a back-up squad player as we are likely to afford. All in all for a team playing both EPL and Europa Cup football, out of the bunch of players Ed has thought were up to it to include in his banner, if you take away the dead wood there is not a great deal left.
240 Marty-Toon // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Why haven’t we been passing and attacking teams like we did today all season when we had Cabaye and Ben Arfa??
241 nufcusa // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

nobody said 10 from 42 is good….. but 6 from the next 12 looks better than our current run and we cant change what has happened but can only look forward.

The manager should not be sacked. We need stability and need to be realistic.
242 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

nufcusa

The Villa game needs to be 3 pts and we need to sneak 3 pts from either Everton or Norwich though I expect they’ll be up for us.

We want to get above Fulham soon as too
243 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Geordie |Two,
Keep the faith. We never win anything and never will. We make up the numbers. Just keep the faith in the team. I was glad we did not lose 4 – 3 again. Anything but another one of those.!!! The team is everything. Results do not matter. We last won the league in 1927. All supporters are now dead. The club is everything. The result is secondary.
244 nufcusa // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM

ba humbug – i agree. i was trying to be conservative. Win your home games and draw away and you climb the table.
245 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Spot on NUFC141. There’s nowhere to hide when you’re the owner. Come out of your cave Ashley and wake up. You could lose everything this season. Championship football for another season will be the end of you and your dreams of a pot of gold.
246 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Not for me jimiley. I want the club to have ambition and win some silverware. I don’t like having the score run up on us. I don’t accept excuses from Pardew, Ashley or Llambias (who is a walking talking excuse for a man). Show ambition or get out Ashley. Sick of the sight of his fat face and that weasel Llambias.
247 jimiley // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Where has Ashley gone? He has not been heard for years. Abramovich says more. Crawl out from your cave Mike and tell us how it is. Abramovitch can hide behind a successful team. Your excuse for your silence?
248 keeganjr // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM

i blame that fat pr… ashley also… We where lucky last season+ we where a tight unit that worked hard for the team.. we should have built on that and get 5-6 bodies in too make the challenge and cover stronger.. not buy defenders was the biggest mistake we have done for some years, and we have done many mistakes.. Its a must now too buy 4-6 players in january.. DO WE?? ehhh no
249 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM

On a personal level all the best to you jimiley. I know we’re all suffering together. It just boils my blood to watch us embarrassed like we were today.
250 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Absolutely gutted.

I’m sure emotions are high this evening, so I wont be sticking around (you lucky b*st*rds).

Despite some stupid stupid defensive moments, I thought we played superbly for the first 70 minutes, we looked like we actually deserved the three points. You could feel it was time to make some subs, but the choices were so underwhelming it’s laughable. We had our very best team out there and any sub just took our chance away. Yes there are other factors, but this is huge for us.

Anyway, I’ll catch up with you tomorrow, I’m hoping things are a little brighter, although I doubt they will be – that was an embarrassing 10 minutes of football there at the end in a game that for the most part I thought we were dominant. Shame, but to be honest, I didn’t expect anything from Man U or Arsenal, there are massive signs of improvement though.
251 nightfa11 // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM

ok..pardew seem a good person..hes probably a good man..i wish him well..but he manages like hes afraid of mediocre teams & starts panicking when things dont go well…& thats not what a big club needs..sorry.. seriously..he defends against west ham, norwich, etc..but goes all out attack against man utd, city, arsenal,.. what is he? trying to prove SAF that newcastle still has surprise factor?=D

summary: pardew out..di matteo in..
252 stuart no9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Nufcusa – my apologies for sounding sarcastic – but at this moment in time I am feeling quite nauseous – sorry
253 Mister Tuff // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Slatymag @216
You posted the following:-
“Thanks for the heads up, I’ll book an appointment at the opticians on Monday. Cheers.”

any room in the car -there’s a few on here could do with a lift to the same place.
254 Den123 // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Our full backs remind me of the stories of how football used to be played when it was in it’s early days where hundreds of people from 2 different towns would gather for the big game. Getting the ball to the next town was considered a goal. everyone charged forward, then when your team lost the ball you just went to the nearest pub for a couple of pints and waited for the ball to come back up this way.
255 nufcusa // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

ibizatoon – good post. agree 100%
256 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Gutted again. After the 3-3 goal Pardew indicates no more goals should be allowed. So what happens? Arsenal scored 4 and it could have been more. Was that Pardew’s idea of parking the bus? I definitely hope not. That wasn’t even Championship level defending. We fought hard and pulled them back 3 times but we can’t stop shipping goals. Very worring for the next 18 games.
257 nufcusa // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:25 PM

It was harsh on newcastle today but although Pardew can take some stick, he can not account for basic errors and invidividual incompetence.

Better defenders would help but we simply give to many soft goals away….both of swansea’s. stokes second, fulhams second and several between the games against city, manu and arsenal.

we do not make teams earn their goals and always end up needing to score 2 to win. Thats poor and how you finish in the bottom 3. I dont think we will finish there as our current team is not our final option, unlike Villa, Reading, Wigan etc. However, it needs addressing as eventually games and avaialble points run out
258 Black and White with an army lol // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:31 PM

i think come February the toon will show some class and bounce back up the table, but only if we sign 3-4 players 2 CB, 1 RB, 1WINGER and a striker
259 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:34 PM

January will decide Pardew’s fate nufcusa. We have games against Norwich, Reading and Aston Villa in that month. If we don’t get at least 6 points from those games I think he will be gone and we’ll be in the bottom 4. Now is crunch time for everyone in the club.
260 Black and White with an army lol // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:36 PM

and for most of you’s saying we will get relegated again this season don’t be daft look at the table, it seems all the teams are playing poor even the top teams, teams lower than us have no money to buy any more players but us though i think we have at least 30 mill to spend.

also if some say we don’t have 30mill to spend so what happened to the 20mill we had left after the 4 signings ?????????
261 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Surely you can’t believe Ashley will spend 30M in January Black and White? He would never part with that kind of money even if he got 20M for Krul. He has shown his colours all along and they aren’t black and white. More like green for cash with a yellow strip down the back for cowardice.
262 Black and White with an army lol // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:46 PM

thats why Cashley is looking for bargains instead of other teams paying way over there valuation its common sense.

with that kind of money i rather have bought in 3-4 players for less than 15 mill rather than paying 20-30 mill buying 1 top player, but hey Cashley is a businessmen not a chairmen
263 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:49 PM

It’s common sense only if you actually do it and the players work out Black and White. We did nothing in the summer because teams wouldn’t give us good players for bargain prices. That’s not going to change whether we like it or not. Spend in January or continue to flounder Ashley. The brilliant plan doesn’t work. The emperor has no clothes.
264 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I have no idea how Ashley’s mind works. If he has known for a long time that we needed a CB why didn’t he do something about it? He is a coward that is why. Or perhaps a coward and a fool. If he believes anything Llambias tells him then he is both. He has shown poor judgement many times now. I think he still believes we will survive no matter what he does or doesn’t do. It’s called denial. He just doesn’t believe we can go down again with the players we already have. I hope he is right but personally I loathe the man.
265 toonydoonunder // Dec 29, 2012 at 10:54 PM

To all the clowns Pardew shouting “no more goals” was neither cowardly or aimed at the forwards it was aimed at the “defense” and lets face it we were all thinking/shouting/screaming the same thing.
266 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Of course toondownunder and look where it got us. Our blind spot as far as the organization is concerned is our defense. It has been a horror show all season. We could have been at least 4 or 5 places higher with just one CB incoming last summer but no we had to be the clever lads who never overpay. Isn’t that right Mike and Derek? How is that working for you clever lads?
267 GeordieTwo // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Personally I’m tired of having a cowardly billionaire as our owner. It’s pointless having him. He won’t fool anyone with the “I’ll not pay over the odds” line of bull. Anyone can say that but nobody has to agree to it. Over the odds doesn’t mean anything at all. A player valuation is subjective at best. We want players with skill, guts and ambition but so does every other team. So why should they come to us for less wage and a lower transfer fee? It’s absolute bollocks and it hasn’t worked last summer and it won’t work in January. Be prepared for more disappointment lads and lasses.
268 Lee Dodd // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:30 PM

ATTN MIKE ASHLEY – YOU NEED TO OPEN THE WALLET SON. END OF .
269 toon-crazy // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

i mean come on guys, the reason we lost 7-3 was because we basically rolled over and died after they scored to make it 5-3, but the problem is i admit our defence, and i dont know why i mean pearch was one of our star man last season but he was out touch abit so was collo , i blame cashley and lambyarse for not bringing anyone in the summer.
270 go toon go // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:53 AM

We need proved Premier league CB.Not players like Douglas or someone else from outside which doesn’t played one minute in Premier league.For CB years are not important.Just need to be stable and strong.I think David Edgar yesterday will do the job better than Perch and finally leave the man play his position.He is not universal player.Universal players do not exist.
271 Darryl // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Sorry, is this nufcwhinersblog? sure feels like it. No wonder I rarely come on here. Awful.

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