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This is Why Demba Ba Could Stay At Newcastle

11:29 pm, Saturday, December 29th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 136 Comments

Demba Ba got another two goals today in Newcastle’s 7-3 loss to Arsenal, after the scores were all square at 3-3 after 70 minutes, and the Magpies had been doing well, but once again Newcastle capitulated late in the game, and conceded three goals in the last six minutes of normal time.

demba ba a wave

Demba Ba – could be too expensive for some clubs

WE all know that the striker has a £7M release clause in his contract but the Sunday people is reporting that the 27 year-old striker may stay at Newcastle.

That’s because his representatives are asking for huge fees in any deal and the amount is said to be over £5M, which pushes the fee to over £12M, and then there’s the enormous wages they are asking for Demba – said to be £80K/week, and when you consider he still has a dodgy knee that may be a risk for any club.

The window opens next Tuesday so Newcastle fans will once again, have to wait and see if any club comes after the Senegal striker, who has been in sparkling goal-scoring form ever since he arrived on Tyneside last year.

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew said earlier this week that Newcastle will sell Ba in the summer if he does not agree to a new contract on Tyneside, and that’s though to be around £70K/week that the striker’s agents have turned down from Newcastle.

The People are quoting an inside source at the club as saying the following:

“There are people in the dressing room who believe Demba Ba has let Mike Ashley and Newcastle down after the way they helped resurrect his career. They’ve been kicked in the teeth.”

Newcastle are pursuing Marseilles striker Loic Remy, but the very fact he has told Newcastle he wants to review all offers made to him next month – might suggest he is not all that keen to join Newcastle.

If Ba is still at the Tyneside club come February – and we hope he is – the player will face increasing pressure from Newcastle to sign a new deal, or be shipped out in the summer.

It may well be that the best deal Demba Ba can get is the one that Newcastle have already offered him.

We hope so.

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136 responses so far ↓

  • 1 joshryan // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    Bloody hope so!

  • 2 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    The ups and downs of the TOON
    get some perspective guys

    http://www.eplindex.com/16032/ups-downs-newcastle-united.html

  • 3 Tsunki // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:34 PM

    Sorry but had to add that comment about getting rid of Krul was a hilarious example of fickleness gone mad.

    Watch this space come end of Jan and nobody has called for Demba.

  • 4 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Conaldo

    just because you say he isnt, or he does not want to play there dont mean he carnt
    im sure HBA dont want to play there too but he is
    im sure Cisse dont want to play there but he is

    tunski

    i would accept a freak result if it was one,,
    but he went toe to toe with man c, we were lucky it was 1-3
    he went toe to toe with man u,4-3
    now today 7-3
    thats foolish

    what made him think with a weaker defence he stood a better chance

  • 5 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    If they honestly believe that then they’re mugs. He came in for peanuts after they sold a striker for 35 million. He then out scored that 35 million pound striker and continues to do so. He is doing his job and I don’t blame him for wanting more money.

  • 6 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Everyone on here slamming Pardew for not demanding defenders -

    Do you all have Alzheimer’s?!!!

    Pardew came out into the media and said we would be buying Debuchy (“cabayes friend”) and an “8 goal a season centre back.”

    He told Ashley exactly what we needed,
    Ashley and lambias have let us down.

    As I said, use your brain before your keyboard.

    New blog motto – brain before keyboard.

  • 7 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    Hmmm well ashley needs a reality check then, when did his career need resurrecting exactly?
    Pretty sure it was west ham who gave him his chance after his “failed” medical and if we hadn’t signed everton were more than happy to offer him a contract along with several other clubs
    Truth is demba owes us fcuk all, we used his knee to keep his wages low, he’s been a revelation and now wants a fair contract to reflect his ability fair play to him

    Catchy
    You having a fcuking laugh or something? You’ve spent most afternoon stating obertan couldn’t cross a road and now you envision him whipping in crosses?
    And marv, are creative spark, you want LM leaving a CM of tiote and bigi to DCM’s? In fact we’ve played a 442, which is basically the same, with bigi and tiote in the middle and you absolutly fcuking hammered pardew for being to negative!
    Such a hypocrite its unbelievable!!!

  • 8 davybtoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    If we don’t get diame n 2 new defenders were in trouble

  • 9 BelfastMagpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:38 PM

    Ha ha ha

    Let Mike Ashley down?

    Signed on a free & paid peanuts compared to the other proven goalscorers in the league.

    Biggest load of bollox.

  • 10 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Joe – I meant a ball playing centre back to play alongside colo would put less pressure on tiote, give him the easy ball when he needs it, but knowing that options there will also give him time to play a ball forward. Which he can do, eg. Assist vs reading.

  • 11 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    your in cookoo land you

    i used the players that was on the pitch today

    for me obertan would get no where near the pitch,,

    id have given fergy a chance before obertan

  • 12 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    Diame?

    Why would he come to us after 6 months at West Ham?

  • 13 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    Catchy teally has perfected the art of swerving the point completley!
    Best bit is he’ll be on here tomorrow saying you know im right thats why you never answer my questions!!!
    Its like having our very own little alzheimer’s blog mascott!

  • 14 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    Catchy – so basically your saying –

    Just because he isn’t a winger, it doesn’t matter. I want him to play as a winger and will post abuse directed towards Pardew when he isn’t played as winger.

    Everyone, the logic of Catchy.

  • 15 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    why do you even talk to me

    all you do is call me,, i have not called you once today, or anyone,, yet im getting called everything because of my opinion

  • 16 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    Tads – what would our little mascot wear? I think a blue dressing gown and a pirate hat.

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:43 PM

    Belfast
    How dare you take saint ashley’s name and tarnish it like that! Demba took his lunch money then gave cisse a wedgie

  • 18 davybtoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:43 PM

    Beattie bcoz he has 3.5mill buy out clause there powerless to stop him

  • 19 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Catchy – the fan who isn’t a supporter.
    At least you keep Toon colours as you keep trying to say black is white and white is black

  • 20 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Yes but why would Diame come to NUFC?

  • 21 Lee Dodd // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    This is a prime example of Mike Ashley trying to run th eclub on bare bones. Its Backfiring as we all knew it would. we will be lucky not to get relegated this season as with the europa and fa cup were stuffed… we need a new right back a centre half 2central midfielders and a new striker and not 18 or 19 year old kids .

  • 22 BelfastMagpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Ashleys mob are experts at letting people down.

    Cheeky kernts ! :-)

  • 23 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:45 PM

    Conaldo

    most of the games iv seen marv play is winger, so why is it so wrong for me to assume that?
    wiki
    Sylvain Marveaux (born 15 April 1986) is a French football player who currently plays for English club Newcastle United in the Premier League. He can play a variety of positions in the midfield, but is mostly utilized as a left-sided midfielder or an attacking midfielder. Marveaux is a former French under-21 international having earned caps with the team from 2006–2008. He is the younger brother of Joris Marveaux, who currently stars for Montpellier.
    not always right, but i never wrote it

  • 24 colwell // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:45 PM

    A player that consistently puts the ball in the net like ba does can easily be on 100k a week and most likely a lot more. Why should he stay for less money then he can get else where? It’s not like he’ll be winning many trophies with us.

  • 25 Tsunki // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    Catchy you think that its not freakish to put a treble past both those clubs inside three days and not only still get beaten, and get hammered right at the very end of game 2? OK.

    Pardew to Blame? Maybe anther gamble here or there would have paid off who knows?

    Ashley & LLambias to blame?- could have held out for the players wanted but feasibly the plan to hold until summer could have worked without so many key injuries.

    Injuries to blame? – Why not? Ask ANY manager if he would have no trouble under the same circumstances. Low rotation and a weak squad = fatigue and demotivates when a losing streak kicks in.

    You need to spread your blame net a bit wider and more evenly to keep credibility.

  • 26 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    Conaldo Pards did say he wanted a goal scoring cb but then we got injuries to perch and Taylor whilst the window is open and suddenly we have enough cover? What’s all that about? It’s penny pinching. Another source close to mike recently said “once he has his own valuation of a player he won’t budge” that’s excellent, such a big shot eh.

    http://m.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-utd/pardew-defends-newcastle-transfer-business-1-4888347

  • 27 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    Centre backs – who do we want?

    I’m not entirely sold on Douglas,

    In the premier league, Lescott is available, but is 30.

    Good centre backs are hard to come by, but we sure need one.

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    Catchy
    Your opinion? Good we’ve established its nit fact!
    You always say i never answer your questions well here you are giving a masterclass in avoidence!
    Im calling you because everyday the blog is peppered with your hypocritical bs that you can never back up with out contradicting yourself
    And every time i post i get called a pardew lover by you simply because i dint think he’s hitler in disguise
    So how bout you try answering your own BS instead of changing the subject

  • 29 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    your off your head

    what have i not answerd???

    its you that has not answerd the questions,,

    is it not time for your bedtime little boy

  • 30 BelfastMagpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    Diame is never gonna join us.

    He’ll leave west ham for Arsenal, Spurs etc. Probably get a pay rise at west ham and stay there, if he cant get a top 4 club.

  • 31 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    Oh wow Wikipedia…

    Marveaux himself said he considers himself a number 10.

  • 32 joe // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Conaldo

    That would be a solution, but ballplaying centrebacks are not known for their steel are they? And at this moment in time we are already lacking with some serious steel. Getting another ball playing centreback instead of an old school tony adams would just make things worse in my opinion.

    On another subject, Colo is a figure of calmness, which is great when you’re on a high like we were last season, and he adds the glossing to the class we already had. But in times like these, how we could use a figure like Tony Adams, John Terry, or even Joey Barton. Somebody who plays with fire in their belly, who would shout and scream in the dressing room after this game. Somebody who others can look to when their backs are against the wall, and sadly I don’t think Colo is that person. That’s why i still believe an English spine is so important which sadly is the direction we’re heading away from.

  • 33 davybtoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Beattie were a big club n only 3pts behind west ham why won’t he come to us

  • 34 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Pardew Hitler? No.

    He’s much more a Stalin type figure. How he disguises that moustache I do not know.

  • 35 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:52 PM

    Catchy
    LOLOLOLOL
    you’ve dodged every single one catchy ffs! All you do is try to warp your “facts” to fit your view point which is bordering on an unhealthy obsession!!!

  • 36 pedro // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:52 PM

    There is no way we would offer Diame the hign enough wage to come here. Non starter in my opinion

  • 37 Tsunki // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:52 PM

    Wait wait hang on lads dont you dare diss the sage of truth that is the Wiki – it never lies. NEVER, I tell yooou! NEEVVVEEERRR!

    pirate hat and little blue dressing gown, come on lads, put him down. Right way up as well, please….

    :D

  • 38 davybtoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    Marveux is quality was when we signed him so why it’s taking pardew n a lot of fans over a season to realise this I don’t understand

  • 39 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    your one of his biggest hoop kisses

    as you would say last season,, look at the table,, are you mad,, look at the table

    thats all i got last year

    tunski,,

    we are 20 matches into the season, results have been getting worse, yes the ending wasnt what i expected to, but it happend

    tell me how the man is going to pick them up,, you can only be put down so many times before you say heyyy so what, who gives a shit

  • 40 BelfastMagpie // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    The centre back has to be a prem centre back in my opinion.

    Straight into the team ! Bish bash bosh :-)

  • 41 davybtoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    Catchy results getting worse but performances getting better

  • 42 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    Conaldo
    Alan” genghis khan” pardew?

  • 43 pedro // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    According to Metro we are after Nicolas Isimat Mirin a 21 year old centre back from Valenciennes

  • 44 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    1 am

    time for bed

    hopefully he will be gone tomorrow

    toonarmydownsouth

    please go back and do some reading

    then dont speak to me again

  • 45 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    Conaldo:

    http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-utd/pardew-defends-newcastle-transfer-business-1-4888347

    Pardew the day before this article stated he needed to think overnight if we needed more defensive reinforcements as Taylor and Perch (or simpson? cant remember but it was two defenders) had just been injured. Pardew slept on it and said he thought we would be ok for defenders and also that it would halt the progress of streete and tavernier. He made the call to the fans/press that we were ok in defense, why? did he honestly believe that or was he covering for Ashley penny pinching?. We heard from someone recently how ashley wont budge once he has a value, well thats great for him but i would rather we paid the extra few million or tried to offload someone.

  • 46 ochytoon // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    How can Hansen say that Bale didn’t dive? There was nothing there to cause him to go down. And the fact that he said it was ok for some players to go down is disgraceful, a player should never intend to go down.

  • 47 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    Pards The Impaler?

  • 48 ba humbug // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    We need a speedy CB so we can play a high line and have a bit better cover for counterattacks.
    Anyone know a CB with that quality who is also good at set pieces.
    Def don’t think Douglas is our man

  • 49 catchy in norway // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    Published on Saturday 1 September 2012 10:45

    ALAN Pardew has defended Newcastle United’s summer transfer business.

    The club signed just one senior player in the window – Vurnon Anita – and efforts to strengthen defence and attack came to nothing.

    Pardew’s squad looks short in a couple of areas given the amount of games United, in home action against Aston Villa tomorrrow, will play at home and abroad.

    And Pardew, at least in public, is backing the club’s tough stance in negotiations.

    Newcastle didn’t meet the asking price for Lille’s Mathieu Debuchy and FC Twente’s Douglas, and an offer for Andy Carroll fell significantly short of Liverpool’s valuation.

    “Let’s be honest – it’s not about the money, it’s about the player and the quality of the player,” Pardew said.

    “I don’t think you can find one of our fans who could argue we ain’t got value for money. That will continue – we’ll strive to push that along.”

    Pardew was also relieved to keep his key players at the club, not least Yohan Cabaye, Cheik Tiote and Demba Ba.

    “We’ve got some great players here, and I’ve kept them intact – that was my main priority this summer,” he said.

    “We have brought in one what I would call first-team regular (Anita) and I think that will take us forward to a degree or two and some young players who will develop.

    “It is an opportunity now for our young players, who can grab the chance of the Capital One Cup and Europe and the league games that they play and make themselves a career here.”

    The knee injury suffered by Ryan Taylor in Thursday night’s Europa League win over Atromitos gave Pardew pause for thought.

    But speaking yesterday, he said: “Sleeping on it, we’ve got good cover with James Tavernier and James Perch, who can play those roles.

    “So we’ll probably go with what we’ve got now and in January, maybe look at it.”

  • 50 JackButler // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    When you think of the amount of money we’ve wasted over the years on players that don’t deserve to wear the shirt Ba is someone who deserves to paid what he’s worth

  • 51 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    Catchy
    You didnt hear it from me my little mompet, i believe my words were more along the stop fcuking whinging we’ve just won another game ffs support your team

    Davy
    Its hard to judge a players quality when he’s on the treatment table

  • 52 Beattie25 // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    Why didn’t we sign Diame in the Summer on a free?

    I was saying a year ago.

    The problem is like everyone is saying, why come to Newcastle if your getting attention from top 6 clubs?

    He wouldn’t fix our defensive problems anyway.

    The only way we’re getting out of this is by spending a fortune to reinvigorate the fans, players and coaches.

    We need to sign a new RB, 2 CB’s, LW/ST.

    Debuchy, Ogbanna, Alderweirled, Remy.

    £28 million.

    It isn’t going to happen.

  • 53 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    Nick9 – I always assumed it was because lambias never bought the players, and he’s not going to come out and say we are buggered our defence is sh!te. Knock the confidence of the few defenders we have. He was trying to salvage a bad situation he was chucked into by lambias and Ashley.

    That’s just how I view it anyway. He knew we needed players.

  • 54 nick_9 // Dec 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    ochy bale dived alright, clever enough to point his foot downwards as well. Bale had the cheek to come out and defend himself after his third booking in half a season for diving. Total embarrassment, a grown man falling over after minimal amount of contact.

  • 55 G // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:01 AM

    How ironic that we have scored 3 goals in our last 2 games and lost both? Beggars belief. At least Arsene Wenger was gracious in his victory, unlike a certain scotsman who lives in the West Midlands (I know it’s officially considered North West, but how far down South is it FFS!). Somebody nailed it yesterday when they questioned the fitness levels of the teams we played. Seems we only have 70 odd minutes of football in us, then it’s fish in a barrel time.

  • 56 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:02 AM

    BRAIN BEFORE KEYBOARD

    Catchy, dear little pirate, take yourself and your pale blue dressing gown off to bed now.
    Ta ta

  • 57 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:02 AM

    TADS

    Catchy’s attitude was summed up in the song;
    “a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest”

    only three more sleeps til the window

  • 58 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:02 AM

    Beattie biggest disappointment with diame is with goin for 3.5mil eve no chance of someone paying 20mill for tiote

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM

    JB
    Ba is a top player whos worth a top contract on par with colo’s

  • 60 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    Conaldo i agree but i just wanted to know your thoughts. Back then we had just finished fifth and bought a versatile player who could play full back. They gambled again and i would really love to be certain Pardew really stressed how we needed defensive reinforcements but i very much doubt it. Everything was rosey back then and he had no need to stress about signings, now on the other hand it is totally different. The pressure is mounting and the longer it goes on the worse it will get. I feel Pards will end up falling out with Ashley eventually as he becomes the fall guy more and more. He had the rug pulled from under him with carroll but i think he is bold enough to take the fans frustrations on the chin and knows more than he lets on about the dark ones running the club. I dont feel sorry for him because he took the job knowing full well what they were like due to the keegan tribunal which basically showed they misled fans with false bids. Remy anyone? Debuchy? deliberate low bids so it looks like they are making the effort, if they come off then we get a bargain. win win eh

  • 61 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    Has this nufc fans twatter account took over the o.v gang or what ? Lol

    They just pretend everything is great all the time. Haha

    Skunki do you have anything to do with this ? :-)

  • 62 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    The night goes into morning, just another day
    Happy people pass my way
    Look into their eyes, I see a memory, I never realised how happy you made me

    Oh quagmire

    Sorry…

  • 63 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    Beattie

    If arithmetic was Mashley’s strong point and he subtracted the difference in TV revenue for next season from transfer fees then he might.

    Dunno if its true but I thought that TV revenues were 40% higher next year as the new contract comes in

  • 64 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    Ba humbug
    Standard catchy really

    Wizard
    Think are little pirate is a tired boy bless him
    Does that little paddy mean i was right?

  • 65 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

    Beattie add dm to that list who wins the ball n doesn’t give it straight bck to the opposition

  • 66 ochytoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    Nick
    If the rumors about him going to Madrid are true then he should fit right in in the Spanish League.

  • 67 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    tads

    He’s been consistent all season in a side that is struggling to recapture last season form, he always gives 100% and deserves to be a top earner at the club, perhaps if we could get shot of Xisco we could give his wages to Ba to give him what he wants

  • 68 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    The last time Tiote hade a 20 million pound worthy game was Man U at home last year and appart from that he has been mediocre IMO. Bigi has came in the last two games and not looked out of place. Some of our players seem to believe the hype and think they just need to turn up and the points are in the bag but they are soreley mistaken

  • 69 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    G

    I’m going to claim that I’ve been posting concern over our stamina levels.
    Even if our physical stamina is actually up to it then the mental concentration is definitely lacking imo. Still to do with fitness but mental

  • 70 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

    Ochy i dont like to see the premier leagues better players leave the country but as long as its not one of ours good riddance.

    Jb im with you on Ba, deserves to be a top earner but also agree we need to cover our own backs with regards to his knee and length of contract. Maybe an automatic pay rise or extension if he reaches a certain number of goals or apps.

    As for Diame he is definitely a player we should have signed in hindsight. Any others recently? lukaku on loan? berba? we certainly did the right thing not signing nzogbia and gervinho

  • 71 G // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

    Agreed BH, agreed. It was like having 11 Titus Bramble’s out there today (No there were not rape alarms going off all over the place), in the sense that the abilities looked great, then come 70 – 75 mins everybody was mentally elsewhere.

  • 72 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

    It’sno wonder our fitness levels are down when we start the season with a small squad that is now decimated by injuries, we simply don’t have the strength and depth to rotate like other club do

  • 73 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    Part timer Butler you swine !

  • 74 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    JB
    Yup would much rather xisco’s wages were going to ba who atleast contributes to the team!!
    Nick9
    Unfortunatly thats the beauty of hindsight! Although diame’s quality really was there for all to see and it looks like QPR have already met his release clause
    Ba Humbug
    Dint firget according to catchy fatigue is mythical and all in the mind!

  • 75 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    We need Sissokho, Debuchy, M’bwia, Sakho and Remy.

    If Ashley new what he was doing he would take that out of the coffers and put it back in next Summer with the TV revenue.

    I shall look forward to seeing Anton Ferdinand, Carlton Cole and Keiran Trippier turning up.

    Freefalling

  • 76 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    Belfast I still look in every day although I don’t post much these days as its the same old arguments that been going on for years :)

  • 77 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    Which Titus? This Titus? ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeM-gt8HBoU

  • 78 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

    Beattie
    We’d never land a player as big as carlton cole man he’s far to ambitious for the like of us

  • 79 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

    JB

    Yes
    Add to that APs preference to keep the same starting 11 for continuity and lack of genuine competition for places in some positions

  • 80 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    ba humbug

    The biggest issue we have is that players like Tiote, Colo, Jonas and lately Krul are simply well below par to last season, Add to that we did nothing about Simpson not only being very poor but also his contract situation which is still dragging on also there was no cover brought in for Taylor who’s injuries are taking him out of large parts of every season.
    All in all we set ourselves up to fail this season with the extra game we have to play

  • 81 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    JB

    Well we’re all singin from the same hymn sheet on that, for sure

  • 82 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    Butler you missed Burnsies bbc u.f.o documentary its on you tube.

    He went to America to look for ufo’s. Haha

  • 83 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    Belfast I think the lads been experimented on by aliens to be honest mate :)

  • 84 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    post a link mate, could do with a giggle

  • 85 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    Look at his twatter account. Thats were I got it from. It was a laugh like. :-)

  • 86 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    Can’t see how this loss can be blamed on Pardew.
    We played fearlessly, then schoolboy defending sets in at 80 mins and the back 4 basically goes to sleep.
    Simmo was the worst of the lot tonight, 5 goals came from his end.

    Shopping spree next week for sure.

  • 87 AMEOBI // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    Catchy,

    If you’re really in the toon in Feb, yeah ne bother I’d do the job for the majority of fans and kick ya heed in. Fine by me kid

  • 88 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    Right, nighty night folks.

    May Lord Shola and his loyal pal Catchy the Pirate watch over you all.

    Ta Ta

  • 89 beefman13 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    54points to play for we need i would say 20/22 points to be safe, if we cannot manage this then we dont deserve anything regardless of injuries, im now calm after the game as i was very arieated for a few hours afterwards.

    What i have to say is we have the worst defense including aston villa, that was according to our manager our best defense without saylor and looking at the way the very nonchalant james perch swans around getting done time after time it makes for a train wreck of a defense.

    Surgery to the back line is needed and must happen in january as quick as possible and not waiting to the last hour of the transfer window that just will not do.

    The positive thing is marveaux starting to show exactly what he is about and that is a really good player and a lad who will keep improving the more playing time he gets!

  • 90 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    JB
    For me tiote has become a passsenger this season and tbh a liability
    Everything that made him great had vanished, his determination, his ability to break down opponents attacks all gone and seems incapable of making a 5 yard pass to a team mate! For me the ACON can’t come soon enough!!
    Also agree about krul he seems less comanding/confident than last season he doesn’t boss the area any more and doesnt collect set pieces

  • 91 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    @tads
    Sort of feels like AP was worried about lack of goals at the start of the season and put his emphasis on that, completely forgetting the defense in the process.
    We defended as a team last season, now the back 4 and Krul are left to tend to themselfes sort of.
    Weird, all balance is completely gone.

  • 92 Luke-A-Like // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Our defence was just awful and i think that we really do need to get all the championship class players out ASAP and two good defenders in, however buying two shiny new players isnt guaranteed to solve our problems…it seriously needs looking at on the training pitch and for me i believe that simmo, willo and even Saylor arent first team class.

    Great 70 min effort from the lads today though, hopefully we will be looking at a top 10 finish after the next 19 games

  • 93 beefman13 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Both krul and colo are way below last season, krul pulled of some canny saves but also was no where near the majority of goals that went in, colo as well seems not to be reading the game as well and has been part of a very very poor defense along with usually berated simmo and willo and i will add santon who while decent going forward is pretty ordinary at defending.

  • 94 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    Dannyo
    I feel that has something to do with tiotes form though
    Last season he offered alot of protection to the back 4 this season he’s invisible
    Think pardews now in a catch 22 dies he set up to babysit the back 4 and sacrifice creativity in the middle?
    Should the back 4 need as much protection as they do given how little they offer in term of attack?

  • 95 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

    Beef
    Colo’s positioning has been shocking since the bindippers somethings defo wrong with him!
    Normally i stick up for simmo but the last month has shown he really has no place here

  • 96 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:59 AM

    toonarmy and conaldo -you both have overstepped the mark by making disparaging and disrespectful remarks about our manager Mr Pardew- no no I mean Percy Parsnip. You both have tried to link him with infamous historical villains,namely Hitler, Genghis Khan and Vlad (Pards) the Impaler. I’m sure that these real/true life villains would be very upset if they knew you were associating them with Percy Parsnip – were they really that bad.
    In any event your violations will have been noticed by Captain Carl of the Blog Police.

  • 97 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Simmo is getting better every game.

    The dream move to Barnet will happen very soon.

  • 98 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Mr.tuff
    Dont forget to the light out after tucking on wor catchy! ;)

  • 99 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    Belfast
    Who wouldn’t wanted play for barnet? And challenge for the prestigous st.johnstons paint trophy? Stuff dreams are made of

  • 100 beefman13 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    Watchin the football leage show and pompey could be on there way down another division, there on a stinking run, FA cup winners not that long ago they have collapsed as a football club, we were in quite a similar position after going down in to the coca cola, we bounced back brilliantly, we do have some very good players but more are now needed we just cannot let all the good work of the previous three seasons go to waste, we have worked wonders really but this season we have stalled Nd reversed we must buy to get back on track, we must.

  • 101 tish1067 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:11 AM

    After reading this blog (great job ed) finally thought I’d get involved.

    Our defence really needs to wake up. Just seems like there is no communication between them! Girouds 2nd goal summed that up, perch and santon just caught ball watching.

    Also, since Tiote’s been told to calm down he just hasn’t looked the same. Yea he got unnecessary bookings but was effective at breaking down plays. Been far from best all season, although his son’s showing good prospect!

    Also Cissie’s been wasted out on the right, the guy looks lost and doesn’t support simmo much at all (don’t blame him tho he’s a central Fwd!).

    As for shola in CM? That’s just asking too much even for the mackem slayer!! Were good going forwards but just hope we sharpen up defensive wise as A TEAM for Everton!

  • 102 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    Beefman
    Alot of pompy fans hold quiet a large grudge over the combination of there owners and mainly a certain floppy chops redknapp for where they are now
    Sad to see but shows how easy a club can go into free fall

  • 103 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    The Barnet move is on for sure.

  • 104 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    toon @97 – you naughty man -are you peeping through our curtains.

  • 105 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM

    Since when did people get persuaded that “making the most of it” e.g. exaggerating and falling over when you WOULD NOT naturally fall over isn’t a dive?!?!?!

    It is absolutely a dive and should be punished as so if the referee believes it.

    I’ve said for some time that there should be a benefit of the doubt system.

    If it is apparent that a player has exaggerated their fall in ANY way then benefit of the doubt goes with the defender because they cannot be sure that the fall wasn’t completely fabricated.

  • 106 beefman13 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:18 AM

    Tads, i feel derek lambiase has to really step it up in this transfer window and get for sure our targets over the line asap, he seems to drive a hard bargain and certainly dosnt like to be done over in the market but we cannot afford to let our targets slip through the net.

    Pressure will mount thelonger it takes to get players in and weather we have players coming back or not we need players in and bedded, its always good to get a good deal but ae have to get these new players in even if it means extra bunce.

  • 107 LGFUAD21 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM

    Tbh lads, we did give a good account but the high line against the pace of arsenal killed us, sloppy goals again, stand up and be counted colo perch santon and Simmo.

    Second time Simmo has thrown the ball to an arsenal player for them to score.

    Goods: marv, ober, Ba, bigi.

    Bads: everyone else.

    Cisse is a waste on wing, don’t do it. Rotate him and Ba. Useless.

    Tiote needs a kick up the bum,

    Krul looked off pace, normally saved those soft goals

    Once again up experienced players let us down. We gave up possession cheaply. Wish Anita could’ve played. Woulda been a diff result but our mid gave the ball away cheaply today. That’s why we lost.

  • 108 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    Tuff
    Lol

    Beefman
    Aye all attention is on the board now and the pressure is really on them to have a successful window and get buisness done early or face a huge backlash from the fans
    We’ve been told money is there to spend if needs be and we fcuking need it!!!

  • 109 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM

    beef -fret not. Whilst I do not particularly like our management and would put them in the clots bracket (in respect of football) business wise there is absolutely no way they will risk/put in jeopardy future EPL and TV revenues. Absolutely no way. I do not think that the prior “hardball” tactics will be sustained at all costs -they know extra staff have to come through the door next month. My guess is at least three players in with the potential of a better quality/known player.

  • 110 t00ntime // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:39 AM

    @lgfaud i dsagree. imo krul had quite a good game. i think there was maybe 1 goal he could of done something about the rest he was left hung out to dry by our defenders. He also made some class saves to save us from theo in the 1st half.

    And obertan didnt impress me. yes he had an assist but he seems to go missing for most of the game. Imo he is a super sub nothing more (atm)

    I think tiote is one of those players who plays well when the team does. Unfortunatly the team didnt and neither did he.

    i agree on the rest. I am actually a simmo fan. (yes he is sh1t going forward but defensively he is 100% premier league quality probably top10. not top 6 though, where we want to be.) but today he had an awful game, [retty much like all our defense. We need to sort out throw ins and set pieces cause 1 set piece in 20/25 games isnt good enough, and we lose the ball on throws ins 75%of the time :S

    I dont understand the pardew out people. I quite like this new attacking tactic he is using, it will help HBA and cabaye so much (also there has barely been any long ball ;-) ) if we can sort our defensive plan out i think this will be great. exciting and surely not relegation.
    ———krul—–
    Rb–CB–colo-santon
    —-anita-tiote-cabaye
    —HBA–ST–LW

    RB- simmo/debuchy/some one from jan
    CB- some one from jan
    ST- ba/cisse
    LW- marv/remy (still hoping lol)

    that team would surely get us top 10 this season and a nice bace to kick on (after failing badly this season) all up to MA of course

  • 111 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM

    good post toontime.

    Despite the goals and results, the past few games have been a breath of fresh air. Our back 4 are always looking to play it out, and as a result playing some lovely fluent football, at times even better than we were largely last season.

    Cabaye and Ben Arfa are going to relish in this style; i hope we see Cabaye slightly ahead of Tiote and Anita in a midfield 3. With the pace of our build up play, we were screaming out for that final deadly ball today to finish off the move, and either of them would provide it more times than not. I think we would’ve put Arsenal to bed today with those two on the pitch.

  • 112 t00ntime // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

    @toonLYFI really cant wait for ben arfa and cabaye to come back, for exactly that reason. like you said a major problem (other than fatigue) was the final deadly ball. Other games anita has been the one giving it to the attackers but without him we saw how much we miss cabayes passing ability.
    I agree about cabaye playing a bit further up he can spread it to one of the front 3 on a counter (like last season when we went on our 7 game run).

    we have to try and look at these defeast positively. this is what i’m thinking
    1) no long ball
    2) for the first time this season, we look exciting
    3) we can score
    4) MA can see he might have to spend that extra mil, to sort our defense out
    5) marv is looking good/great So teams will have to double up on HBA and marv or risk being ripped apart
    6) if we keep playing like this (and sort out defensive errors) we will win games
    7) we will now be able see how much team spirit we have. if we can come back from 7goals with a solid performance against everton, we know all the cr4p about our dressing room problems probably arent true

    Yes we can look at the negatives, but i’m letting pardew do that. I made the mistake of promising myself to be positive this season… (wrong season xD)

  • 113 Sattarbuksh // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:55 AM

    Does anybody else feel that Cisse is now getting better in his role at the right wing.. His touch has got better and he does keep the ball longer and passes it along well..

    Another strange thing I noticed today was how Ba did move to the right wing during the match for a little bit of time (something non-existant previously) Maybe they are friends again after that Cisse goal at United!

  • 114 YankToonFan // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:51 AM

    I am thinking it may not be a terrible thing if we let Ba leave. If we can collect £5 million for Ba plus £15 for Tiote, we can remake this team for the better.

    Throw in around £3 million for Simpson plus whatever Ashley had earmarked for the January, we could have close to £30 million to spend.

    Add Debuchy, Sissoko or Diame, Aubemeyang, and two strong CBs, and we will be in good shape to finish mid-table and challenge in Europe.

    I would play a 4-2-3-1:

    Krul
    Debuchy S. Taylor Colo Santon
    Anita Sissoko/Diame
    HBA Cabaye Marveaux
    Cisse

  • 115 mattnufc // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:59 AM

    Forever the optimist, I am actually glad we have been shipping goals – maybe we will now get the defenders we have needed since seemingly time began.

  • 116 t00ntime // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:19 AM

    the big question is who plays striker in a weeks time… ben arfa is back after brighton game (last i heard). If we play 4-3-3 cisse or ba has to be benched. I think AP will go 4-2-3-1 until cabaye is back

    ——–tiote-anita
    ben arfa-cisse/ba-marv
    ———-cisse/ba

    or HBA in the middle and cisse/ba right.

    but when cabaye is back i dont see any other way than 4-3-3. which will bring the changing room problem. who plays who is benched?

    Who are you guys hoping for in jan (be realistic) name 3 order of which you want most ;-)
    for me
    1) douglas
    2) remy
    3) debuchy
    Not sure why but i just love how remy plays even if its LW and we dont really need more wingers

  • 117 Dyer8 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:29 AM

    In :
    Douglas
    Sissoko
    Debuchy

    Out :
    Ba
    Simpson

    Best XI
    —————–Krul
    Debuchy-Saylor-Collo-Santon
    —————–Tiote
    ————Sissoko
    ——————-Cabaye
    HBA———————–Marvo
    —————-Cisse

    Sub :
    Shola, Perch, Douglas, Obertan, Anita

  • 118 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:52 AM

    Had to get up, suffering from the flu, so thought I would do another post.
    The quote in the People from an unamed source is as follows:-
    “There are people in the dressing room who believe Demba Ba has let Mike Ashley and Newcastle down after the way they helped resurrect his career. They’ve been kicked in the teeth.”

    Whilst I could understand people at the club will be sick of the “will he won’t he go speculation” and that this could result in the club not being able to forward plan in respect of getting a replacement striker in if Ba left, I have considered and re-considered the quote itself and have come to the following conclusion (which you may or may not agree with I do not particularly care either way if you do or do not).
    The club has recently failed in trying to re-negotiate Ba’s contract – success would have resulted in the removal of the infamous clause and would have netted the club many millions if he was to be sold (no problem with extra cash into the clubs coffers).
    For the life of me I just cannot imagine any footballer coming out in support of a character like Ashley ie a team mate stating another team mate has let the owner down as the owner has helped to resurrect his career. Whilst we may remind ourselves of never saying never – I may be led to think a teammate may say something along the lines of “we’re sick of him or we’re sick of the speculation but to throw in Ashleys name does not strike me that the phrase originated from a player. I do not think that Percy Parsnip would want speculation about the dressing room – with the potential of further unrest due to players wondering who is leaking the information.
    Then from what little we do know about the internal workings at SJP – it became highly obvious that the suspect clearly will be a friend/supporter of Ashley who may have “previous convictions” for skulduggery -bingo -Dick Dastardly.
    At the time of the Caroll sale there were suspicions that a fictitious press briefing to the effect that Spurs had also bid for Caroll -would make its way to Liverpool thus prompting them to up/finalise a bigger bid. The matter was never resolved but it’s origins were suspected to be from SJP. Dastardly was at the centre of the Caroll negotiations.
    So there we have it, suspicions only, no evidence but a bloody believable version of events -from someone trying to shaft Ba, after all he has confessed to being a “nasty bastard”.
    I do not like this type of “method” of briefing against individuals and it’s not a tactic that should be used in the running of the Toon.

  • 119 davis_toons // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:05 AM

    Check this:

    9:47 am, Sunday, December 18th, 2011 by Ed Harrison

    This is what Alan Pardew told the Sunday Sun today about the center-back position:

    “It’s a world market but centre-half is a key position and you’ve got to be sure about what you’re getting in that position,” “It’s a position that gets highlighted in the Premier League – as Chelsea defender Luiz is finding out.”

    “It’s not a case of having to go in and convince Mike Ashley.” “The last time we met he said: ‘When are you going to get a centre half?’ “He understands the game, perhaps more so than people realize.”

    “Maybe not on a technical basis but he knows how it works – he knows we need a defender and we’ll try to get one in.” “He’s been excited by the season so far and he’s looking forward to this next period of games.”

  • 120 ash1001 // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:27 AM

    Mister Tuff
    Sorry you are down with the flu, but back to Demba Ba, if you recorded yesterdays match, rerun the Ba goal celebrations, they were very flat, not the usual well done stuff, only max of 4 players involved, think that sort of says a number of things, make you own mind up.

  • 121 davis_toons // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:40 AM

    1. Chelsea defender Luiz doing very well now and can play different roles apart from CD after a chance of managers. (rafa does it)

    2. MA wanted a CD but AP thinks we can still cope without one during 2011 DEC, AP is might be thinking that STaylor is back andWilliamson is covering. CD is FINE.

    2.1. AP have no intention of UPGRADING the CD DEPARTMANT YET at THAT MOMENT.

    -Clearly stated and wrapped in NICE WORDS.
    “It’s a world market but centre-half is a key position and you’ve got to be sure about what you’re getting in that position,” “It’s a position that gets highlighted in the Premier League – as Chelsea defender Luiz is finding out.”

    “It’s not a case of having to go in and convince Mike Ashley.”

    1. He didnt find the need to improve the CD department.
    2. He didnt foresee that that players we have in the department are already running in TOP GEAR. (A little more extra, it will blow-up)
    3. He didnt foresee our Back four is not good enough.
    4. He didnt foresee that he is a New Manager & Every players is trying their Best to IMPRESS.
    5. He didnt Foresee that what we need from last SEASON was A BETTER QUALITY DEFENDER & SHOULD BE OF 1st team.
    6. To Score goals or not is another matter. But someone STRONG and CAN, MARKED AND DEFENCE STRONG.

    NOW 2013
    After waiting for AP “Quality Defender” to Come in, we have suffer.

    FANS NOW would EXPECT the kind of quality that ALAN PADEW is TALIKING ABOUT. Arent WE?

    TO: ALAN PADEW

    Dear Sir,

    We EXPECT a QUALITY DEFENDER that you have mention and discribe in your dreams. Please sign him up ASAP.

    PS: Hopefully is no some kind of young talent that needed another 2-5 years to bloom.

    HINT: CHRIS SAMBA is not too happy at his current club btw,
    ASKING: 10-12 million (Blackburn sold him for 12million)
    WAGES: 100K (his current at the club)

    A deal that can never seal…so get someone in like him. Dont tell us how a defenders can score goals in a season. That is RUBBISH. It can only be a Bonus.
    And that player will BE COSTLY, we will NOT afford it.

    Jan Jan Vertonghen is one of them…and pls dnt tell me is a younger version of Vertonghen. That can only cheat a kid. Every player is different.

  • 122 davis_toons // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:44 AM

    Tottenham beat Arsenal to signing of £8.1m Vertonghen – Goal.com

  • 123 davis_toons // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:59 AM

    If Mike have no problem in supporting Us a New CD, there is not reason we cant get a Quality one in this JAN.

  • 124 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Dec 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM

    its very simple due to the injuries we all feared that would happen they did.

    Fat Ash never payed a dime and hence we are where we are simmo willo in the nufc shirt with colos massive drop in form has proven our undoing…

    Here is how I see it there are ppl in the squad assured of a first team start and there is your problem.

    We need depth we dont have it we need quality CB we dont have them havent had them for a long long time.

    Answer is very simple Ash has yet to commit to this club…

    I think personally we will never see the end of this until somebody takes this club by the scruff of the neck and commits.

  • 125 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 8:11 AM

    Pardew’s subsitutions were poor yesterday

    Tav on for Marveaux
    Fergie on for Simpson
    Shola on for Bigi

  • 126 cyprus // Dec 30, 2012 at 8:15 AM

    Mike is not committed to NUFC with a quarter billion investment and over 100 mil. owed to him? Come on. Yes, our steady hate has distanced him, but how would you react if it happened to you? Show him some love, fans, and he’ll invest the 21 million (3 ready game changers) that we need.

  • 127 bambams // Dec 30, 2012 at 8:15 AM

    Well how is everyone feeling today ?

    New day, lets just wait and see what happens in the window before we decide who is in the wrong.

    I genuinely believe Pardew will have massive problems motivating the players for next game.

  • 128 stuart no9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM

    Cyprus. Are you still inebriated ???????? Show him some love before he will spend some cash on HIS club. He is a business man , I don’t think he will lose any sleep due to the fact we don’t happen to love him. If he doesn’t love us and we don’t love him why doesn’t he just pack his bags and head on down back to the smoke??

  • 129 GeordieToon89 // Dec 30, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    Yous do know that QPR have been given permission to speak to Diame after meeting the £3.5million release clause..

    I’d personally rather have Sissokho anyways all we need to spend is around £18/20million..

    Debuchy – £5.5million
    Sakho – Loan with perm deal arranged
    Sissokho – £3.5million
    Remy or another same type – £9million

    Simpson – £1.5million

  • 130 GeordieToon89 // Dec 30, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    I’d rather we got Shawcross like but a dont think we’ll pay the asking price

  • 131 JDdubai // Dec 30, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Ok well that was a crap xmas of results…..

    Overview….

    1. We are not in the crap because of results against Man U and Arsenal, we are here because the same players couldnt perform against “weaker” sides ie West Ham, swansea, Southampton etc. If we can raise our game against the top sides then we need to ask why those same players couldnt be bothered or motivated to perform like that against the samll sides….

    2. As we all know we are paying the price of MA not paying to strengthen the defence, cant believe that since promotion Santon is the only defender we have signed, and that was to replace Enrique… I think at least 9 of the 11 goals this week were the result of poor defending, the worst for me was Perch for Arsenal’s 3rd goal, going to ground for no reason when Wilshere was on the byline and giving him the only chance he had for chipping the ball across. Complete stupidity, just stand up and pressure him out of play!!!

    3. Stop playing Cisse on the wing!!!!! He wont track back effectively as we saw for Arsenal’s 4th goal, his instinct isnt to track runners from deep, play him CF or not at all.

    4. If Ba wont sign the new contract with the clause removed then get rid ASAP. Bigger players have left us in the past and we can cope. I dont blame him for looking for a bigger payday, I have a chronic knee problem and know that day by day it is wasting away so if I was him I would want to maximise my earnings while I still could..

    5. I really hope that if there were any plans to use Marveaux as part of the Remy deal then they are destroyed. He has proven to be the most technically gifted and creative of everyone in the squad except HBA when fit. Marveaux needs to be a regular now, in the hole behind Ba for now, and then out wide when Cabye and HBA are back.

    Team when fit:

    Krul
    Debuchy!-CB-Colo-Santon
    Tiote-Anita
    HBA-Cabaye-Marveaux
    Ba/Cisse

    Add to that in a perfect/dillusional world:
    Sissoko
    Remy

    Then we have a team to compete with the best.

    Just keep 442 away from now on!!

  • 132 Marzy // Dec 30, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    I’ve said since I’ve been on this site that our defence is the priority! Colo is good! not fantastic & certainly the better of our back 4, Saylor is good on his day BUT injury prone so useless really!, Willo/Perch are just squad players but I do like Perch’s versatility, Simmo defensively is ok but offers very little in the forward play & lastly Santon is a good player but in my opinion needs to be moved to the right side, as when he’s going forward he looks great but defensively he’s week!
    It’s about getting that balance right & we clearly don’t!
    My opinion is we need 2cb regardless of age experience is essential to steady the ship “Lescott & Douglas” & we need a LB not RB!.
    As for a forward I would much rather have 3 defenders in this window & play Cisse up top.

  • 133 Marzy // Dec 30, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Sorry I didn’t mention my potential most probably unrealistic list? Douglas “prospect”, Lescott “loan”, Micah Richards “loan”, Pieter’s “versatility” & Debuchy. Like I say unrealistic but I live in hope lol!.

  • 134 Zangwill_Ho // Dec 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM

    If I were Demba Ba , I would leave from Newcastle United in January!

  • 135 go toon go // Dec 30, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    If Lescott comes that is more than enough.We have everything that we need.We all want Debuchy.But we have Simpson-Our mostly underrated player.I think Debuchy will be a good second choice from the bench.

  • 136 go toon go // Dec 30, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    And we don’t need big players like Santon on LB position.We need small quick player on that position.Look Man U,lookArsenal,look Chelsea.




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