Newcastle Again Linked With French Central Defender

1 toonbrother // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:13 AM

the sooner we consign Sideshow bob to the bench the better

2 Kyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Just saw on Twitter that Lille are ready to sell Debuchy on Jan 1st.

3 toonbrother // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:20 AM

I guarantee this line up would not have conceded 11 goals in two game
………..Krul
Simpson…ABC*…ABC*…Santon…
……………Tiote…..Bigi
……………..Marvs
Cisse……Ba……………..Obertan

*ABC: anyone but Colocinni

4 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Marty toon

It depends on the player, the situation and the team.

If Van Persie had to play 3 games in 7 days he would, as he has fantastic conditioning but he doesn’t have to due to the squad depth at Man Utd.

Look at all the teams from Leuage 2 upwards, look at the European leauges, look at how many games that Barca have played this year and how many times the big p;layers have been rested.

Look at the job the armed forces have to do. Running miles, hardly any sleep and fighting every day.

Tiredness is the biggest cop out ever. If this is what we are like now, imagine what we’ll be like come Mach, April and May.

It was a mental issue last night, not a physical one.

Anyone who says any different is stupid.

There has been many similar games in the past where one team has had more time off than an other and gone on to win.

Pardew treats them like boys not men. Real men say they were poor not tired.

They’re just not good enough, too relaxed knowing they have no competition and put simply just don’t care.

Santon has been the player of the season so far so we can forgive him one game.

Everyone else, Simmo, Colo, Willo, Saylor and Krul have been poor all season. So what? They were tired when we got beat by West Ham, Swansea, Fulham etc..

It s another excuse from Pardew.

5 gaz 44 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:24 AM

too brother ya talk shit .. he’s the best defender at our club by a country mile.. he has to cover santon when he goes off on his runs then has to cover Williamson more often than not.. don’t wanna slate perch because he did decent but he did throw himself in at wilshere when he crossed and was supposed to b making giroud when he scored his head

6 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Got to admit that if Williamson and Perch were playing we’d not have been beaten by 7.

Colo lost the plot yesterday and when we need a leader his is never there.

That’s why we had lots of humpings last season.

RE this article:

Exactly what we need in the midst of of relegation battle, an unproven 21 year old.

Great stuff.

7 toonbrother // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM

@ gaz 44. No offence but you come across as a deranged illiterate. Was Williamson on the pitch last night? Use your common sense for a change

8 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Beattie
If your applying that logic then surely its a cop out from the players and not pardew?
How do you get a squad of players who can no longer be ars3d to play good football, if that is the case of course
He cant his hands would be tied until the window opens

9 gaz 44 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:31 AM

no but he was against man utd and that’s the reason i mentioned perch.. tool

10 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Toonbrother
Do you really think its a case of rating fergie higher than marveux?
You do know that marv has missed nearly 2 full seasons of football over the last 3 seasons and has just come back from a huge injury and surgery?
Has occured to you that his match fitness/sharpness was not there hence playing a few europa games and cameos before starting some PL games?
He’s a player who is proven to be very injury prone when bought back too fast i highly doubt its as simple as “pardumb” doesn’t like him its a football club lad not a play ground

11 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM

This is what I think needs to happen in Jan/Feb:

- Sign a quality pacey CB
- Cabaye, Anita, HBA and Jonas return to midfield
- Jonas and Marveaux rotated
- Cisse played centrally and Ba moves to 2nd striker or left. Otherwise drop or rotate one of them.

Then in Summer:

- Sign a technical creative 2nd striker/winger
- Sell Gosling and Simpson
- Sign Debuchy ( I doubt we will get him in Jan but if so great)

12 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM

SCAPEGOAT LIST
1 Alan Pardew, always the most popular choice for the majority of posters who CBA to look further than one thing.
2 Simpson. Blamed by one poster last night for being responsible for at least 5 goals. Pretty good going considering he was only on the pitch for the first 4 when we were at least still in the game.
3 BA scoring another two goals clearly not enough. If only we could rid of our top scorer all our problems would go.
4 Colo. well it was bound to happen sooner or later
5 Santon. You know you hate to do it but you just can`t help yourself.

13 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM

TADS

They all need a kick up the arse but can Pardew motivate them?

14 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Who cares who we’re linked with,we need players in and that’s what will count hen we actually get them in and not the idiot planning of last year.

15 gaz 44 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM

and for the record i do think with the ef the mackem game collo has been poor, i also think krul Simpson Williamson cabaye (majority of games he’s played ) tiote cisse and many more have been poor

16 SupaToonKid // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Toonbrother

Be quiet you mug. Colo has to babysit all the other defenders hence he can’t even do his own job. Danny Simpson is sh*t, I never used to mind Simmo but he can’t even defend now & he offers nothing attacking wise. Willo makes so many mistakes & Perch is a DM not a CB. Santon as well is superb attacking wise but defensively it’s a problem, Jonas’s is job is to cover him & now he’s injured Obertan is not gonna do that.

This Mirin lad looks good & tankish so get him in for £4M & bring in a replacement for Simpson (preferably Debuchy but don’t mind as long as they’re better than shoddy Simmo).

Remy would be icing on the cake but no matter if we do not sign him as our attack looks good now with Obertan & Marveaux providing good chances for Demba & Papiss.

Get pre-contracts agreed for Sissoko & Douglas then we should be sorted. Of course if Ash wants to splash some small fees for them then hey ho get them in now but come on that won’t happen.

2 NEW DEFENDERS is a MUST this Jan. Anything else is a bonus!

17 Kyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM

The only scapegoat should be Ashley. He is responsible for the club. After not backing Pardew in the summer we are where I said we would be.

I remember being called a Mackem and negative by Dannyo and a few others. Where are they now?

It’s not Pardew’s fault. Sure he hasn’t been perfect but without financial backing I will not be calling for his head. We passed the ball so well last night. With some solid defence we can beat anybody.

18 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM

A bit more sense in the correspondance this morning.
Yes 7-3 was not nice but the first 70 minutes and and 80 mins against Man-ure was some of the best football we have played for many a season.

Fitness: Remember how many of the players playing have played a full 90 minutes of Premiership Football. They reckon you need at least 3 games to get up to speed. That was Marvo’s 2nd 90 minutes and Bigis in a row. Anita had just had 2 full games before being injured.

19 toonbrother // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM

@tads, i dont recall saying pardew doesnt “like” him. If his earlier treatment was down to him being injury prone or unfit, he could have been eased back in -coming in as a sub or being subbed off after an hour like ben arfa was when he first joined. Pardumb has gone from one extreme to the other -from shutting him out entirely in favour of ferguson and jonas to overrelying on him – playing him twice in the space of three days. That strikes me as not appreciating the player’s qualities until things got desperate. I have no doubt marveaux would have made a huge difference in the matches against lesser teams when Pardumb froze him out opting to play 4 defensive midfelders + Jonas instead

20 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Beattie
If a players ego has taken over and they think there place in the line up is dead cert, which looking at our squad depth it pretty much is, then what can any coach do? Nout he’s powerless
Of course thats all hypothetical like

21 SupaToonKid // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Look remember we were all hounding Pards last season cos he started Raylor over HBA but then Hatem got match fitness & we reaped the awards. Same with Jonas over Marv this season but now look Sylvain is back & we would be reaping the rewards of his creativity if our defenders could defend. NEW CB + RB PLEASE!

22 breno95 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Toonbrother
If you read gaz’s post in it’s proper context I think you will understand that gaz was not suggesting Willo played last night but what Colo has had to do alot this season when he has been partnered by Willo.
To resolve the defensive frailties we can only hope this window has been prepared for thoroughly and discussions have been ongoing for a while rather than bustling in on the 1st Jan.
Personally I would accept any offers for Tiote (if they are still there) and can only hope that we can bring in Debuchy, Sakho, Pieters, Sissoko and Remy. We dont need any young potential in this window.
As for the summer, hopefully, we are still in EPL and then we can offload Simpson, Willo. We will know the situation with Ba so focus can be given to new CF’s to replace both Ba and Shola (retires with a bit of luck).

23 Kyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Oh and where are the clowns that called me an idiot after saying Simpson is embarrassing after the Man United game? I can’t believe he is a professional football player.

24 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Beattie
I agree that Van Persie and many others are physically in better shape than our boys and mentally too.
Think how it must be for some of our top players,when ya have Cisse at RW and Simmo behind him,then you have Willo who actually played well last year but who the ball looks hot when it comes to him.
I have played football for years in the league but not at the same level of course but when you know that one or two of your team mates are serious lightweight and you have to cover them continually it gets fec-in tiresome and very downheartining.
As AP stated we’ve got young lads on the bench that shouldn’t be anywhere near 1st team that says it all and certainly won’t help their futures

25 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Maybe I am the only one, but I still don’t think buying a new CB is going to save that defense – there is somwthing completly wrong with our positioning and highline zonal marking.

…it is the way we set up our defense that is the problem (sure buying a new CB and RB won’t hurt, but it won’t really change much).

We need an anchorman safeguarding the defense – I thought it was Tiote’s job, but I have absolutely no idea of that he is doing!

The defensive part of our gave needs to be adressed I think (4 goals in 20 min. I am still baffled)

26 catchy in norway // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM

toonarmydownsouth

its both,, not just pardew, he sets the tone, the players follow

i remember a league game a few month ago, pardew came out with we had a lot of tired legs out there towards the end, meaning the team had played in the EL, what he forgot was he made 9 changes to the team,,

how did we have so many tired legs

yesterday, ars, not playing would have had an impact, for sure im not doubting that,
but pardew made changes that back fired, last week v QPR he started with the wrong team, made subs that changed it, and got praise for it from you lot
yesterday, i have no clue by what he ment by no more goals,
no more goals defensivly??
or attacking
surely if he ment deefensivly they where already trying to stop them
and if it was for us to try and hold onto 3-3, why bring on shola and ferg
shola is lazy and slow, ferg is a winger where would those help defensivly?

you have to accept that we are where we are because of poor team managment for all 20 games,, not just the last 2

this season his record has been worse than JFK, no one defended him for his record

injuries can only be used in the last few games, not the whole season so far

27 SupaToonKid // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Yep Kyo I’m backing you my friend. Board’s & Simmo’s (+Willo’s) fault for our plight this season!

28 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM

It would be harsh to say the players don`t care. For the majority of the game we more than held our own. Once the 5th goal went in it was like the team collectively hit a brick wall, whether that was physical tiredness which I can understand or they mentally switched off knowing there was no way back I don`t know, probably a combination of both.

29 obatoyou // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Which article are you referring Sir Beattie

Got to admit that if Williamson and Perch were playing we’d not have been beaten by 7.

Colo lost the plot yesterday and when we need a leader his is never there.

That’s why we had lots of humpings last season.

RE this article:

Exactly what we need in the midst of of relegation battle, an unproven 21 year old.

Great stuff.

30 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Toonbrother
I disagree that hes been frozen out he’s had europa games and league cameos building fitness and confidence
Ideally doubt he would of played 2 games in 3 days or certainly not for as long as he did but injuries have forced pardews hand
Personally think we missed jonas yeaterday to cover the back four, tiote was shocking

31 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Catchy with the amount of players out Pardew had very few options. He brought Fergie on for a Simpson which I would have thought you approved of as you have been singing his praises all season. Result 3 goals in 9 minutes.
Shola came on for Bigi , hardly a defensive substitution and Tav for Marv but the game was gone by then.

32 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:54 AM

the crap that most people write on here is ridiculous and uncalled for. If people want to try and demoralise our club i suggest you stay away from this blog. We all know Pardew is playing his best hand at the moment and he is down to the bare bones to the fact we havn’t got a bench at the mo due to injuries. How could he look at the bench to change things in the last two games which are arguably our two hardest away games of the season. Fair enough our defence just isn’t good enuf against world class forward’s/midfielders, but how many teams score 3 at them two grounds. we are playing really well also defending really poor but lets face it i was proud to be a toon fan over the last two games regardless of the score. how many fans get to cheer goals at them two grounds. we did 6 times. get behind our team,manager and club and we will be ok second half of season when our key players return and any additions we aquire

33 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:54 AM

WIZARD NEWS

Breaking news.

A lot of reports going round today saying we have signed Debuchy.

He wants to leave, Lille want to cut costs at the club.

Rumoured to have agreed fee of 6million euros, and agreed terms.

If its true expect to see him over the metaphorical line once the metaphorical window opens. Too many metaphorical things.

Hope it’s true, now just a centre back and anyone else we can get our hands on.

34 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:54 AM

We need to splash out on Toby A. I don’t care if we pay £10m for him because we desperately need a decent centre back. Debuchy and Toby A are must buys and we also need to pursue Remy and Sissoko.

35 colwell // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM

What ever cb we bring in needs to be able to organise the defence. So many of the goals we have conceded is when 1/2 defenders have not stepped up and played the oposition onside. Colo is a gd technical cb but you never see him shouting or organising.

36 One comment a day // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Tiote again had a crap game, that’s every game this season-get shot.
Williamson is shite.
Jonas is finished.
Simpson offer him a new contract for £3,000 a week thats all he’s worth.

37 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM

If we can start to pass the ball around like we’ve done in the last 3/4 games and shore up the mistakes then we will be fine and of course we need strengthening in defence Big time

38 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM

If transfer sage is about – you heard anything about this? (Debuchy)

39 catchy in norway // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM

tequilamag

it must be killing the the players, they have put so much effort in the last 2 games,

right now we need leaders,,

i look around and i dont see any

i see distractions

ba’s contract
colos argument
simpson out on the town
cisse having a go at the board

something is very wrong internally at our club and if it is not sorted out soon, its not looking good

40 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM

When arrogance takes over it is a poison without any cure.

Even in the face of a 7-3 mauling some of the players will be satisfied. One issue is Pardew’s own arrogance. If he had an ounce of humility or honesty, like Hughton, he could knock the arrogance out thorough being humble about the quality of our team.

Pardew has let them become arrogant and refuses to let kick their arse publicly. The only way to beat arrogance if you are arrogant as a manager is to be better, bigger and more arrogant than your players.

Look at Mourinho. What would he do? He would criticize the players that need it. Ferguson would move them on. Wenger would get them believing in their arrogance. Moyes would let them know who’s boss. Pardew just let’s them get on with it and makes excuse after excuse.

Many wouldn’t want their manager to openly criticize players in the team, but lets see what happens if Simmo was publicly chastised for not giving a shit anymore. If Colo was criticized for not being a leader. If Tiote was criticized for no being with it mentally. If Krul was criticized for not playing well.

There comes a point when injuries, tiredness, Europe, lack of investment etc… becomes too much and you have to look at it for what it is. The players have been shit from day 1.

41 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Obatoyou

This article. This CB. If we were buying him for our development team then yeah, great. But we won’t be.

42 catchy in norway // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:00 PM

tequilamag

then i dont see why ferg was so high up the left side of the pitch

we were being raped at the back, shola is 1 good game every 10, yesterday, i seen him with the ball in mf and he looked llike he was running in water

43 JP...from The Rock // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:00 PM

We are playing much better believe it or not. The problem being we are starting to get form when we are in the middle of our hardest run of fixtures and our injuries keep piling up.

We have done extremely well to score 3 past Man U and Arsenal. To come away with that with not even a single point is hard on everyone connected to the club. Some individual performances like Santon, Simpson, Krul perhaps and Cisse (out of position) are to blame for the heavy loss against Arsenal. Tiote wasn’t much help either. Bigirimana, Marveaux and Obertan were on everything good v Arsenal. It’s such a shame that the awful result overshadows their brilliant performances of late.

Bigi was everywhere and made Tiote look less than average. He was spreading balls across the pitch with ease and was full of running and hard on the tackle every time.

Marveaux – Showed that he too can dazzle like HBA. Some quick feet and sublime touch , pass and move was evident again. He is now showing us all how much he’s worth.

Obertan – Very positive and attack minded and hardly put a foot wrong. Very quick feet to get out of trouble and make a good pass on countless occasions. Ran his socks off both offensively and defensively and a great move and assist to set up Marveaux’s goal.

HWTL

44 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Catchy. you see what you want to see .

45 ToonMauritius // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:01 PM

i think we signed Deduchy more than four times , i think

46 Strauss // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Simpson is rubbish, cannot beat defenders and cross the ball, does a soft floating cross, its like watching Flintoff box; towards the end of the game against Arsenal he was found out to many times, we should let him go.

Colo is covering for Willo and Perch, he cannot do two jobs at once.

Ash did not give money to Pards during the last window to bolster the squad

47 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Catchy
I can see where your coming from and fair play for acknowledging its not all pardew
But injuries/suspension have played a part all season can you think of a run of 2 games where we’ve been able to play a settled starting 11?
I can understand him wanting to shut up shop at 3-3 given the utd game
Subs had to made the lads had just let in a 4th and were breathing out there ars3′s but look at the bench, what other changes could he make?
Shola’s hold up play is great and he probably thought he’d relieve some pressure for us if we could get him the ball
Fergie came on as a LB with santon going to RB
Tav came on as we were 5-3 down and was probably damage limitation tbf
The only sub i didnt agree with was bigi coming off thought it should of been tiote but for all we know bigi may have signeled over with a tweak or something

48 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Reports in France suggest that Debuchy will sign on the first of January.
I bloody hope so cos Simpson is useless like

49 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Catchy we were 43 down when the subs were made. We were chasing the game. Shola was brought on for exactly the same reason as the QPR game. Remind what happened in that game ?

50 ToonMauritius // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:04 PM

that numbers 7-3 is still haunting me.
this morning as i went out, i saw a friend (An arsenal fan ),
Shite….. no case to answer

51 Kyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Conaldo. Why are you asking Transfer Sage? He knows nothing.

52 yorkshire mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:05 PM

This guy looks like he could be decent backup but what we need atm is an experienced pl centre back those that come to mind at present and likely to be available are Lescott and Dawson from Spurs doubt we will get Lescott going back to Everton but I think its high time the hierarchy realised that we can’t just rely on bringing in Alan Carr gems from abroad all the time.

53 toonbrother // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:06 PM

@TADS . Sorry but anyone who has followed the team knows the penny has only recently dropped in pardews head as per marveaux Had it not been for our excellent midfield display our appalling |Central defence would been exposed alot earlier in the game. Tiote -though sloppy at times- was central to the midfield dominance we enjoyed for 80 minutes against one of the best passing teams in Europe. That i believe is his primary role as a MID|IELDER. Noone had more touches in the entire game than him. We didnt miss jonas one bit in my opinion Bigirimana played his role ably until pardew took him off. I would say that was one of the best midfield displays ive ever seen by newcastle united. Unfortunately the best midfield in the world cannot compensate for a joke of a central defense like the one we have

54 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I might word it differently, but Beatrice has a point about arrogance!

…some of us even talked about it in the summer saying it might become a problem for us, and it sure was evident in the begining of the season!

That is one of the reason’s why I have been soo oposed to blaming this season on lack of transfer activity (it is just of the problems that adds to everything but hartly the culprit)

55 toonbrother // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Though neither Williamson nor Perch is what i would call an elite Centre back, neither player is a bad defender either. The one constant in newcastle’s defensive collapses over the last two years has been colocinni. Go and watch the first half against Arsenal in the famous 4-4 (had diaby not been sent off that game wouldve ended 8-0 btw) , or the 5-2 thrashing at Fulham; the 4 goals at Man U or the 7 goals yesterday. What do those central defences have in common?
Like i said before when the going is good and we are playing keep-ball he looks a million bucks. Full of poise and elegance. But when the going gets tough and we need a two strong CBs to stand tall against an attacking onslaught he falls to pieces. We cant keep ignoring the obvious

56 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Toonbrother
Im sorry but say colo was shocking but tiote played a blinder?
Tiote was less than useless gave away countless free kicks failed to pick out passes and constantly gave away possesion in our own half in fact he did for a few of there goals

As for marv i think your seeing it how you want to he didnt put a display in until wigan then let himself down vs bordeuex so yeah i think he’s been eased back in

57 toonpanda18 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Colo is not the player he used to be, probs due to age but would be much better with a fast strong cb. Santon can’t defend but I still like him, while willo isn’t that bad but shouldn’t be starting for us. Simpson poo’s his pants as soon as he’s on the ball, and literally cannot cross for his own life. we have to buy players, but sadly I can only see 1-2 through the door.

58 FatmanJoe // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Toon brother that’s brave of u. I have tried to suggest something similar before and got slated for it!

I thought we more than matched both man it’d and arsenal at their own grounds but we were really slow against two efficient sides. As long as we brush this defeat off I think we can beat everton.

59 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM

just wish we had cisse on the bench. great poacher to come on for ba. They are both number 9s and pardew just has to realise that.

Passing is getting better but sometimes santon and obertan were completely isolated without support.

60 toon85 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I fear that we may head through the trap door. Injuries to key players are killing us,Even if we get some additions in jan they will take time to get used to prem. we have too many average players.
Williamson- championship player
Simpson-positioning terrible
Perch- 100% commitment, lacks in quality
Ferguson- hate to say but never going to make it at highest level
Orbetan- hasn’t got a football brain, blind alley’s
Tryin not to be negative but I think most on blog would agree on players above?

61 catchy in norway // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:18 PM

tequilamag

we were 4-3 down, chasing the game, but you could see they had more energy,
it was madness what he was trying to do , flogging a dead horse,

62 FatmanJoe // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I think obertan has been excellent the last couple of games. Really looks up for the battle. Cisse should have been on the bench really – Simpson was battered down that side of the field coz of slow tracking back.

And also simpson not being that good.

63 outsidethebox // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Why the gloom .only need a full back and a dominating centre back .oh and cab and Benny back .only problem is most toon fans have been asking for two defenders for last 4 windows:-) .could that be reason for gloom……

64 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM

everyone who is slagging off COLO f off. he has had to cover for willo all season so not only having to think about his own duties he is constantly thinking about covering for willo. class is permanant form is temp so all you scaremongers go back under the bribge you live under you trolls

65 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM

toonbrother

summed it up perfectly.

Fitness levels are a worry. If it was me I’d be having them swimming, doing aerobics, yoga and all sorts for fitness and injury prevention, alongside normal training.

66 toonbrother // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:20 PM

@TADS they were both shocking defensively. Unfortunately only one of them has a PRIMARY job of being a DEFENDER! I’m quite frankly amazed at the intellectual dishonesty of so many fans here. Looking for one scapegoat after another to blame for these abject displays in central defence. Now we;ve run out of centrebacks to blame we turn to midfielders and fullbacks. Tiote did not play a part in conceding 4 goals againt ManU. Williamson did not play in part in us conceding 7 goals at Arsenal. |Colocinni played a central part in both yet fans here keep contorting themselves in different ways to absolve him of any blame

67 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:21 PM

All the elements have combined to bring around this poor form. We all secretly knew it was going to happen. Some of us where in denial, where as others openly admitted we would struggle this year.

None of us really believed we would be in a relegation battle but are any of us really surprised?

For me the first 2 weeks of Jan will be pivotal. If we sign some decent players then I say give Pardpoo till the end of the season and then be done. Signing players is a sign of ambition and if we are ambitious we need to upgrade Pardew as much as we need to upgrade Simpson or Williamson.

If we don’t sign anyone then we need to be rid of Pardew. He ultimatley cannot get the results with the little he has. Yes his hands are tied but we cannot think of that when we need 3 points. If there is a manager out there who is available, better and can get the best out of these under performing goons then we need him. But who would wan’t to come to Newcastle with no investment and an owner who is obviously thick when it comes to footballing matters. Perhaps Pardew should walk whilst he has any respect (or even status after last season) if there is no investment.

Either way we need to see action from a board level. If nothing happens not even Cabs and Benny can save us.

Biggest month in the clubs history? You bet your ass.

68 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:21 PM

outside the box

i think it’s more to do with 9 losses out of the last 11 !
although Ed reckons we SMASHED wigan and qpr!

69 FatmanJoe // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Beattie you have a real gift for dramatising! Who would u suggest would come to a club 15th in the table, with no funds to spend, an owner with an itchy trigger finger and unforgiving fans? Oh. They’ve also got to better than pardew and also not a puppet.

It’s not a long list.

70 Iain Dowie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Wow some of the people on this blog. Colo is our best defender and you want him dropped?. The fact we concede too many goals is down to the fact our fullbacks spend most of the game upfront and our other CB has no positional sense or pace. Pardew needs to have a word with the defence cos too many times this season we have been caught with 2 defenders at the back while the rest of the team stand and watch while we concede to a counter attack.

71 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM

beattie,

no way he’ll walk on that contract and knowing ashley we’d only get curbishley or someone equally underwhelming. Would love to see a continental coach come in and transfrom these guys.

72 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:27 PM

fatman joe

that’s the reality. it is indeed a very short list

73 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Fatman joe

You have a gift for not reading my posts.

I said that nobody would want to come.

Thats my point. In reality we are stuck with Pardew unless a miracle occurs and a big name manager fancies a bit of a challenge.

We need massive investment from the board but that is a likely to happen as Pardew being replaced.

I have a terrible feeling that Ashley will put his trust into Pards to turn it around and that Pards believes he can without too much investment.

If that happens I think we could be screwed.

74 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM

DEBUECHY. done deal. signs on tuesday starta v everton on wed night. happy days

75 Kyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM

DEBUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

76 Iain Dowie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Also teams are coming to us and treating us like a top 6 team, they come to our place and defend and hope for a counter attack. The majority of our home games we have been dominating possession and not finding a way through, therefore we over commit too many players making us wide open for a counter attack which we can’t defend against with possibly the slowest defence in the league. We need shape to our team and composure when attacking rather than reverting to crosses from deep (usually from Simpson) because we have ran out of ideas.

77 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Catchy exactly we were 43 down the players were knackered, of course he is going to bring fresh legs on to win the match. What should he have done ?
And how is that flogging a dead horse. ?
As you forgot about the QPR game , Shola came on and scored which is why Pardew brought him on again.

78 outsidethebox // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Rotunda heights …yeah there is that ……but I reckon with all fit plus fb and cab …there is a good squad there….krill
Santon cab collo fb. Posters?
Anita cab tiote Marv
Ba
Cisse

With decent bench

79 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Toon brother
Have you heard me absolve colocini? Have you heard me blame perch or willo?
No
Why am i laying blame with tiote aswell? Well his main priority is not a dedender surely you cant argue that if he continually gives away the ball just in front of defence as were looking to attack then he must take a chunk of the blame for putting us under uncalled for and immidiate pressure!
Everyone sitting round me yesterday looked absolutley petrified when tiote got on the ball some were even groaning when he got passed to
His confidence us shot the difference between tiote and colo is we have players in the squad who can step in and replace him, easliy at the moment too

80 Kyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:30 PM

proudtobeageordie

I doubt he’ll start against Everton. I wouldn’t want him to either as he’ll need at least one training session to get a feel for us.

81 outsidethebox // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Sorry
Pieters

82 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:31 PM

kyo
he will anybody better than simmo

83 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:31 PM

I know the lack of investment is terrible, the injuries awful and the competition places non existent but if we had a decent continental manager does anyone really think wee’d be 15th?

I’m not saying Percy is to blame totally but I think the opportunity to win games and build momentum was at the start of the season.

Now we are fighting an up hill manager with as much tactical creativity as a grey crayon.

84 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM

kyo
he has a training session tue afternoon and wed morning thats enuf

85 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Where is everyone getting this Debuchy info?

86 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM

what’s this about debuchy?

87 Super Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM

I wonder if Cabaye and Saylor coming back will be like new signings?

88 toon85 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM

You can see cisse is not happy playing on the wing, his confidence is shatterd,looks so frustrated,really feel for the lad. He is a centre forward who scores goals,c’mon pardew basic rules in football, play players in their positions.

89 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:35 PM

from inside the club. I’m a Corporate client and i can’t say who it’s from but it is a done deal gents

90 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:35 PM

DEBUCHY DEBUCHY DEBUCHY
THE BOY IS HARD TO GET
DEBUCHY DEBUCHY DEBUCHY
BUT WE WILL GET HIM YET

91 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM

@proudtobeageirdie!! Get a grip u penis

92 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Supermag

I cannot wait to see Benny, Cabs and Saylor stood holding a shirt with St James Park as the background under the header of ‘NUFC new signings’.

93 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:37 PM

We need to win against Everton big time.

Stoke actually done us a big favour yesterday,.

Southampton would of been right up our ass, if they had of won that game.

94 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:37 PM

If it isn’t true you are no proud geordie

95 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Most Debuchy news is coming from French newspapers.

96 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Debuchy debuchy
That boy is hard to get
Debuchy debuchy
Wor cabs getting wet!

97 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Load of crap!!!!! Won’t be here!! My mam is a cleaner at st James park and she’s herd nout!! Realy some people!!

98 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:38 PM

@ darrenfletcher88

as your name explains u cock. Jealousy gets you knowhere waite till Tues then i will waite for an appology if u are any sort of a man

99 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Oh no not the debuchy shite again.

100 Nipsey // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM

It seems that Debuchy is heading to Newcastle this is what i’ve read in a french football site http://www.footmercato.net/ligue1/transferts/mathieu-debuchy-sur-le-point-de-quitter-le-losc_98004

101 Super Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Beattie
I’m thinking more of a big press conference with our triple signings.

102 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM

darrenfletcher88
Acleaner more like a scrubber?

103 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Yes I love the ITK rows on here.
Roll on Tuesday when darrenfletcher and proudtobeageordie can fight it out.

104 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM

@cwarr07 hasn’t said anything about it, so It might be true lol

105 Super Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM

I won’t believe anything about Debuchy until I see him holding an NUFC shirt at St James Park.

It would be a step in the right direction if we brought him in.

106 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

107 catchy in norway // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM

i know most will be happy,,

but im not coming back on here until the man pardew is gone,,

i find it amazing that, over 20 games this season, the sets new records for for things we dont want him to set new records for, and still ppl want to back him,

if you look,, ppl are having a go at tiote, colo santon cabaye, cisse , some of our better players

then they stick up for players like simpson

the one common theme in all of this is pardew

no its not all his fault, and we should have bought a defender or 2 in the summer,, but to take a team that finished 5th, with some of us thinking it could have been higher, to now a team 5th bottom

after every game you go on as if it is just that game that has been bad,,

no matter who he has had availble this season, he has stuck with jonas and simpson, refused to try other options unless forced upon him

the first 10 games were a total joke, he reacted to the other team in nearly every match, we never started off fast,
in those games we played to defensivly to many long balls,,

i find it funny that you guys are defending him for playing long ball by ssaying look we are passing now,,

why could he not do it back then with his better players?

ba or cisse, not in the same team unless your going to support them with chances
cisse has not created one chance out on the right, so what is he doing there

yes his hands are tired to a degree,, but he is not blind, and we have a better squad than he has made out,

POOR POOR manager

bye bye

108 toon85 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:45 PM

I think collocini needs to hav a regular starter with quality and presence beside him in c. Defence, Taylor always injured n others not up to it!!!

109 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Belfast – he has. So it’s probably not going to happen.

@cwarr07: At last some good news for #NUFC

Debuchy to sign

@cwarr07: #NUFC agreed a fee of € 6 million discussions are now focusing on the bonus linked The conclusion of the case is no longer any doubt. #NUFC

110 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I wonder if that Taxi driver in the Summer who said he was booked to pick him up is still waiting.

111 Super Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Catchy
Bye bye.

112 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Catchy you’ve made that threat a few times now. and you’re still here ??? lol

See you in 8 years mate

113 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Catchy see you in 8 years time then .

114 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Ta Ta catchy.

Please wash and return your dressing gown and pirate hat.

Tequila – it’s going to be one hell of a fare if he gets here like.

115 toon85 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Is this debuchy news defo true?

116 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM

F*** off @cwarr07 you c***.

Kiss off death that like, he’s never got one right in his life.

117 ochytoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Catchy
So there’s Nor-way you’ll return to this blog then?
ha ha ha I’ll let myself out…

118 LGFUAD21 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Alright guys. Watched the game with an arsenal fan. ,y thoughts

As bitterly disappointed as I am about that result I’m not gonna get too distraut about it.

For a good chunk of the game we played decently and we showed we have goals which is promising.

Unfortunately we sloppily gave the ball away too many times against a team with that pace.

Cisse may be improving his ball retention on the wing but that was a gam not a training exercise and we can have him out there being half as effective as someone else could be. It brings us down to 10 men. It will have taught him some good lessons to bring back to a striker role but ATM iris a waste.

Tote was woeful. Terrible passing.

Simpson seems to have given up on us. Don’t think the fans bullying him has helped his morale at all which is a shame because I think he has been and can be a solid defender.

We played a high line against Walcott ffs so what did pards expect.

To say no more goals at 3-3 was silly too. Bad tactics when we still had a stake to claim I that game.

Everybody was ball watching for Podolskis goal. We are woeful at clearing a ball. Just knock it to the edge of the box to another opposition player.

Bigi outclassed tiote and should get more games.

We missed a lot but we especially missed Anita today. His work rate would have made that midfield more solid.

Goods: opbertan, marv, bigi, Ba
Bads: krill, colo, Simmo , santon, tiote, cisse ( nothis fault though)

I’m confident we can beat Everton though.

The minute Giroud came on I knew we were done for. I’ve said to many ignorant arsenal fans that he is a striker with quality and he tore us a new one.

119 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Where to start?

Catchy is leaving us?

Debuchy joining us?

Season is over. Pardew out!

120 Super Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Belfast
When will people realise he’s a sad attention seeking pr*ck?
I don’t think he’s got anything right and yet some people still think he’s genuinely an insider.

121 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Ibiza, do you think the Catchy, Debuchy situation is a part exchange deal.?

122 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Ochy – get yer coat

123 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Catchy

Could I make a request ??

Will you take Ibiza with you ?

124 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Bonjour messieurs.

I came as fast as i can. So Debuchy in Newcastle according to “La voix du nord”, this time a very serious and well informed newspaper.

125 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Haha,careful,we will just see

126 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Tequlia….Not sure mate, but shall we try offering some other posters in exchange for new players?

Belfast….I’m always with Catchy, in his heart at least.

127 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Link (for those who read french):

http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/sports/losc-mathieu-debuchy-file-vers-newcastle-exclusif-ia182b204n931168

128 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Or could you headbutt Ibiza before you leave ?

129 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Niafron
Seriously? No fooling? Its a respectable paper?
Woo hoo debuchy!

130 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:57 PM

and so it starts hahahaha

proudtobeageordie has an inside source

convieniently on the same day that its all over twitter aparently coming from roumors over in lille

it may well be true but just admit you heard it from someone either on or that uses twitter

131 Rake // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:57 PM

If Debuchy signs i’ll eat my hat.

132 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Niafron…So would you allow yourself to be become a little bit excited then or should we maintain out no one will join us so we wont get hurt stance.

133 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Ibiza, Purple poster for a Purple player. Sounds good to me.

134 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

6 millions euros fee, and also some bonus.

135 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Or maybe dig a hole & bury him ?

It’s up to you. I’m happy with any of the three…

136 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Niafron sounds like some kind of superhero there, like batman from the old series.

“I came as fast as I could. Where’s the penguin?”

“Holy Debcuhys batman, he’s up there!”

(Says catchy dressed up as robin)

137 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Apparently that newspaper is the same one that broke the Cabaye news! This better be true!

Krul
Debuchy Coloccini Williamson Santon
Tiote Perch
Obertan Ba Marveaux
Cisse

Nice

138 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Ohhhhh
He’a gone back to his pineapple under the sea
Catchy grouchypants

I’ll miss you sweet prince!

139 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:00 PM

If the Debuchy news is correct -it’s an excellent start to the window. When he arrives he needs to tell Percy Parsnip that he is a right fullback otherwise good old Percy will try to convert him into a centre forward or a goalkeeper.

140 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:00 PM

@gateshead mag! Proudtobeageordie us a keyboard wizard who sits in his why fronts eating chessy wattots making pap up!!

141 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:00 PM

out of curiosity has anyone been watching him play this season??

if so how do we rate? i only saw him at the euros and thought he looked decent

142 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:00 PM

My window cleaner is Debuchy’s window cleaner & he says he doesn’t want his windows cleaned anymore.

So it must be true.

143 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:01 PM

darenfletcher

aahhh good atleast im not the only one haha

144 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Rake
If debuchy signs i’ll watch you eat your hat

Ibiza
I hope your proud that your constant bullying has forced catchy off the blog

145 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:02 PM

So Debuchy is 100%, definitely joining.

Catchy is 100% gone, and never returning.

Best day ever. Oh wait…

146 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Tequila….Purple posters? Oh dear. maybe not then

Belfast…Stop fence sitting and make up your mind as to how you want me to be removed. Honestly, grow a pair

147 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM

tads….I surely haven’t been credited with this one? This is all on Pardew, the awful man.

148 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM

TDS – if both of those things were true it would be a good day.

149 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Ok Sweepstake for Catchy return.
Back by Tuesday.

150 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Gateshead mag,I hope it’s true I realy do,but all this soures crap and seen him in KFC in town,well u no what I mean is rubbish,beleave it when he’s holding a shirt up,

151 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM

darren

The amusing thing is that the day the news (true or false) is published in a French newspaper, all of a sudden all the ITK clowns crawl out of their holes. Unfortunately for them it’s 2012, and hence fairly easy to read a French newspaper from my armchair in Bath.

I see you’re still getting as worked up and stressed about them as ever

152 Wandering Geordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Well the’ wee’ club got truly weed on last night and without Williamson in the side.So all the moaners figure that one out

153 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

@Ibiza and all the others.

Yes, this is a very serious newspaper and in France, this kind of press never take risk.

So if they say it, it’s probably because they got confirmation by both the clubs and also Debuchy’s agent.

Furthermore, this the Newspaper of lille area, so no one got better informations about the club.

They say this:

“Mais la conclusion de l’affaire ne fait plus aucun doute : Debuchy sera Magpie pour les prochaines années.”

Wich mean:

“There’s no more doubt: Debuchy will be a Magpie for next years.”

They would not engage the credibility of the Newspaper at that point without serious informations from inside the Club.

Sure, this football, everything could happen. But for me, this is done.

154 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

He’ll be back to slag the players off in Wednesday

I say we Wednesday , about 7:30

155 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

catchy

you’ve taken a hell of unwarranted and undeserved abuse on here. i think fans of other clubs looking in would ask just what is it you have said or done that is so wrong, as on the surface we have lost 9 out of 11 and have only just recently played any kind of football.

i really hope we can get the defenders in we need. if still no improvement after that, then pardew has no excuses left.

156 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Ibiza I prefer death by shotgun, but it wasnt an option, so the headbutt will do.

157 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:07 PM

darrenfletcher

i just ignore shit like that. but i find the fact its in a french newspaper as a possibility that it might be happening.

like you say though believe it when its announced

158 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:09 PM

niafron

cheers for the information

159 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Niafron – good to know, I hope it’s true.

160 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:10 PM

darrenfletcher/gatesheadmag.

You havn’t got a clue who or what i am so crawl back under your bridges you trolls. Untill you do then you can judge what i say or do

161 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:11 PM

@COnaldo

Well, indeed, after what happened yesterday, this club need a superhero…

And don’t moch me, you never seen me with Tights!

162 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I know a lot of people will wait for the player to be standing there with his shirt but for me Niafron’s word is as good as any.

He was the one that said we wouldn’t sign Debuchy in the Summer and he was correct. He has been correct 100% of the time with the players we are looking at in France.

Merci Niafron.

Now will we get Remy? Non?!

163 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:12 PM

wandering

don’t think willo would have done any worse or better tb honest

164 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Niafron dont suppose it said anything about debuchy renting a car and picking up remy cabella sissoko and m’bwia on his way did it?

Ibiza
You know its your fault, you scares away our little dressing giwn wearing pirate you bast@rd!

165 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:14 PM

There are strict laws in France with regard to what is published – compared to here where known lies can be published. Publish invented rubbish in France and you go to court.

166 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:14 PM

proudtobeageordie

ill judge anyone on here for the comments they post and if you know anything about this blog then youll know theres been thousands before and thousands after you that come on here with ‘inside info’

he shouted from under his bridge….

167 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Belfast…oooo, the shotgun option sounds a winner to me like. Can’t we relax on the options this one time?

Niafron….That is great news. Looking good, but as always, we’ll wait to see him holding up that black and white shirt.

Hope deals are tied up nice and early. Team and fans need settling.

168 Peter // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:14 PM

If we get a win streak goin we are back in top half. I’m not concerned at all. We are in Europa knockouts and if debuchy is on his way we are going the right way. Howay the lads. In pardew I trust

169 LEROI // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Good to see niafron back with his french press knowledge . I believe,we will sign decent players & get cabaye & HBA back soon enough to climb mid table before the last day of the season. howay the lads!!

170 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:15 PM

I’m going to the Everton game. PLEASE START DEBUCHY!!!

171 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Debuchy will be a fine start. Just hope that will not be the end because we seriously need a centre back or two. Sorry but if any decent bid comes in for Tiote i would let him go and bring in the lad from West ham.

172 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM

ameobithemakemslayer

think your jumping the gun a little there mate haha

173 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Niafron –

174 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM

tads….But I didn’t whip him with any daffodils, I’m a changed man. I love all of Newcastle’s children! Except Belfast, that lad can choke on his tongue for all I care.

Hyphen….We’re blocking in your bridge. No more shouting will be heard, just the occasional whimper.

175 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:19 PM

ibiza

aslong as iv got a decent wifi signal i shal never be silenced!!! muahahahaha

176 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Gateshead – I can only hope… But anyone is better than Simpson

177 hatem786 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Newcastle have agreed a £5.5m deal to sign Lille full-back Mathieu Debuchy who is set to fly over to Tyneside in the next few days.

The Magpies have chased the French international for almost a year and came close to pulling off a deal for the 27-year-old in the summer.
Debuchy is preparing to leave the club he grew up at and embark on a new phase of his career, but he will be welcomed to the club by former teammate Yohan Cabaye – who was also part of Lille’s double winning squad of 2011.
Newcastle boss Alan Pardew is desperate to give his squad a boost after back-to-back defeats at Old Trafford and the Emirates Stadium, where the Magpies have conceded eleven goals.
Debuchy is unlikely to be available until the FA Cup third round tie at Brighton on January 5 and Pardew will want to have a good look at him in training to assess his match fitness before pitching him into a Premier League match.
The Fretin-born defender has made 15 Ligue 1 starts for Lille this season and last played in their 1-1 draw with Reims on December 15.

178 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Hyphen……Well in that case, you don’t have decent wifi anymore. Hehehe – I figured a girly laugh was more fitting in this case, rather that the evil laugh you rightly used

179 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Nowt official but…

http://www.clubcall.com/newcastle-united/pardew-agrees-deal-for-55m-frenchman-1524179.html?

180 Williamsonsuks // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM

This is the end of a beautiful story between a boy and thought of the club of his heart. Since starting this summer and missed, something was broken between Lille and Mathieu Debuchy. Since then, the side struggled to smile again and his best, although he eventually evacuate the frustration.
But then he thought to finish the season, despite his departure from the council of elders, despite the departure of Landreau, the side saw the situation accelerate suddenly Newcastle need reinforcements when he comes to collect eleven goals in two games against MU and Arsenal, Lille and need cash. This time, the two sides quickly agreed, at least in spirit, while the final details are resolved at this very moment. I used google translator.

181 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Rémy?

Will depend of what will do Ba first…

182 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM

gatesheadmag.
I know nothing? Is that why me and my family have been invited to Everton game by llambias and sitting in directors box again. 5 time this season we have been in there. kit,match ball twice,proagramme and captains sponsorship and we have got dressing room sponsor for southampton on 23rd feb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i know nothing

183 toon85 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Debuchy news thread on clubcall.com, backs up wats said the French newspaper, happy days, 5.5million, won’t be available till Brighton away!

184 toonarmydownsouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Toon85
Fine by me just got me tickets the other day for brighton!

185 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM

The council of elders is an idea of Lille’s coach, Rudy Garcia.

This a group of 5 or 6 players who help him to manage the team.

Wich is common, except in Lille, they got an almost official role.

186 croftus5678 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:29 PM

i would rather top priority be a centreback tbh agree we need a lb and i do think its harsh we are calling simo as when he came off we looked a hell of a lot poorer and he is starting to get some decent crosses in the box atleast now.
considering our injuries out mid/forward play was great.
tiote i thought had an avg game which is bad for him and the defence including collo and santon were poor at best.
collo and santon are normally top class though so i will not call for there replacements but they do need some better class alongside them.

187 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Not sure if Catchy will like the idea of a council of elders.
With Catchy going in part x for Debuchy expect the Lille blogs to be up in arms.
Garcia out.

188 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM

He will not be here on Tuesday!! 20 bet??

189 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Tequilla. – is this your liberty valance moment? The man who rid us of the wastrel Catchy! Don’t hold your breath. Highly impressed with your boring away at him just as he does to everyone else. Hoist with his own petard.

190 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM

gatesheadmag
i knew the news about debeuchy yesterday afternoon but because i was @ the emirates yesterday i didn’t get home till early hours this morning. and by the way my scorce at the club is no player or coaching staff????

191 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Simpson away then?

192 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Debuchy, a quality CB plus Cabaye, Saylor and Jonas by Mid Jan, and HBA hopefully in Feb suddenly we have a hell of a lot more strength and depth.

Raylor due back in March as well – we need him for fullback competition/cover.

193 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Proudtobeageordie when your in the box pull down Derek’s pants and blow him off u arse licker

194 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:33 PM

http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/article/50872
A Bit Odd! He,s nearly 30 is he not?

195 tequilamag // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Ian I love that movie, one of the few that John Wayne dies in.Not holding my breath either, already started a sweepstake on when he comes back.

196 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:33 PM

There’s a question:

What about Simmo now?

197 Spellcheck // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Good riddance Catchy!!!!!! Please be true that debuchy is 100% true crack.

198 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Would be delighted to have Bastos as LB.

But don’t think it could happen. He’s indeed a bit old, and got big wages.

So he’s not in our target zone.

199 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Simmo can be cover and Europa/cups.

200 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM

darrenfletcher

You jealous tramp.

201 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Simmo can watch and learn from a true quality full back, simple as that.

202 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Debuchy looks done deal almost all French media reporting its done now originally came from a Lille based paper good start to the window, now just add this mirin n remy n were good to rock the second half of the season

203 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:40 PM

proudtobageordie @182 wow getting a private box – I am totally jealous. That Llambias bloke seems like a nice fella.

204 New Geordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Just wish that we had a decent owner….

205 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Ashley is a decent owner. He saved us from extinction BUT when it comes to transfers he is bloody terrible.

206 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:43 PM

mister tuff
Didn’t say a private box. said directors box which to all you people who say you are fans is the corporate area above press section which holds about 800 clients so before you post comments please read post’s correctly

207 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Got to go lads, see you later.

Bonne journée messieurs.

208 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Haha. You’re not a real fan unless you’ve been in the directors box

209 toon85 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Debuchy headline news on l’equipe website!

210 New Geordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Ashely a decent owner?? After that incident with Kevin Keegan.??

211 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Tequila I must look out for the movie on TCM. I’ll remember the death of John Wayne line could come in useful – Happy New Year and Joyful tidings to you and yours. Hope the rumours on Debuchy materialise. Doubt Trippier rumours then are true though !

212 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

toondownsouth
did i say that. NO if people think the directors box is an actuall box they don’t even know the layout of our ground so how can they call thenselves fans as they have

213 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

It’s on skysports!!! I hold my hands up,am sorry,over the moon

214 lesh // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:52 PM

It aint gonna happen as it appears the Saylor’s nearing his return and Llambais’ll persuade Pardew that we don’t need cover!

Another reason it’ll not happen is that “……..it seems that Liverpool have stolen a march on Newcastle for this player… ” They seem to have Sturridge all done and dusted and clearly they’re much more business-like than us!

Maybe we’ve something to learn from this and previous debacles?

215 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:52 PM

New Geordie

We do not fully know what happened with the KK saga. Ashley saved te club from massive dept so he must be remembered for that HOWEVER, he takes stupid risks with transfers because the player we want is half a million to expensive. It is stupid.

216 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

NEWS FLASH
Toon have agreed 5 million Pound/Euros deal with Lille to bring in Debuchy

217 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Debuchy fee agreed, atlast…
That’s one good way to start the window!

218 GeordieToon89 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Debuchyyyyyyyyyyy

All we need after(if) we get him is a centre half and Loic Remy

219 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

darrenfletcher
is that an appology from under your bridge lol

220 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM

If it is only £5 million why wait till now to get him?

221 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Matt Spiro ?@mattspiro
Newcastle and Lille are discussing final details of Mathieu Debuchy’s 6m euro move, say La Voix du Nord. Debuchy has packed his bags

222 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM

@Beattie
Please tell me that is sarcasm

223 Foxworth // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Sky Sports confirmation:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8372390?

224 toon85 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Beatie25
The fee wud have been 7-8 million last summer, Lille were in champs league n they were in a strong position regarding how much they could get for him!

225 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:03 PM

gatesheadmag/darrenfletcher88

you 2 have gone quiet. proved to be right i suppose you two trolls are hiding under your bridges after your embarrasing commentd lol

226 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Matt Spiro ?@mattspiro
Debuchy’s struggled a bit since summer move fell through. But he’s an excellent (attacking) full back and will be good signing for #NUFC

227 Fostino // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM

debuchy for 5m is a good signing…happy days. hopefully we can get that over line. could defently do with some better service coming into box from right.

cb & remy next please

228 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Is it even possible that we could bring in Debuchy, a CB and Remy??????? and lose noone?????

Our position may be a blessing in disguise as it’s forced our hand to buy.

Who knows but god knows we needed this lift!!

229 bills-son // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Ashley is useless in the transfer market?

You lot have got short selective memories. Yes he fkd up in the summer but what about getting £35M for AC, or signing HBA, Cabaye, Tiote, Ba, Cisse, Santon, Anita, Marveaux, Bigi and Oba for the same £35M??

230 Jail for Ashley // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Keep an eye out for anyone who carnt spell can’t .

231 obatoyou // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:06 PM

We signed debuchy? Boooyaaa!!! Now we need a few more cmoooooon!! Woot

232 obatoyou // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Poor simpson

233 obatoyou // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Does that mean he’ll be eligible to play against Everton on the first that would rock though pardew may take a few seasons to introduce him into the prem, poo pardew

234 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Graeme Bailey ?@GraemeBailey
Debuchy is expected to be in Newcastle on Wednesday to finalise deal. #nufc

235 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Now please a CB who can receive and pass a ball and has pace!!!

10 players who can pass a ball – oh joy at last!

236 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM

@obatoyou
I think that’ll be too soon mate. Dunno if they’ll manage to register him in time and then there’s the match preparations too.

237 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

@Spuggy
Krul can pass, he just opts not to

238 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Debuchy isn’t going to solve our problems but it’s a start – Cabaye and Saylor in a couple of weeks though followed by HBA!!

239 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Beattie @ 40
Have you had a lobotomy ? You’ve gone from some sensible reasoned posts to utter garbage. Name me one manager who has ever gone public and given his players, by name, a total slagging off ?
Now that would lose you the dressing room.

Ketsy. Glad you agree with me that we need a £10m central defender.
Quality doesn’t come cheap. We need a Yaya.

Fitness is mental as well as physical. Loss of concentration is a stamina failure at EPL level. Maybe a top sports psychologist would help.

240 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Williamson will actually look better with a rb who wants the ball. Still get him replaced though.

241 Marzy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Sky have announced Debuchy! Quality especially if he finds the sort of performances as he did in the Euro’s!!

242 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Looking at the Everton game we will get murdered by their left side if Pards plays Cisse on the right Bains and Piennar will have a field day – just saying ! Think Demba up top with a midfield of Oba Perch Tiote Marv Bigi Anita to neutralise them ….

243 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Bills son

It’s not that people think Ashley signs bad players its that e doesn’t sign them at the right time.

I don’t think anyone can dispute we spent too long on targets we couldn’t get in the summer instead of either paying up or moving on to an alternative.

Who knows what signings a couple of defenders could have done to our season…might still be in this position but having more options wouldn’t have made us worse.

244 Fostino // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM

perch got found out yesterday as a cb…thats not his taut as he’s not a cb but a good one that can maybe head a few goals from a corner would be great. ashley williams at swansea looks great…shame we didnt get him when we were interested.

245 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:21 PM

We have to be honest here tho lads, he is an attacking fullback. Sure, he’ll create a much better fluidity in the team, but will he stop the goals leaking?

246 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

catchy

you’ve taken a hell of unwarranted and undeserved abuse on here. i think fans of other clubs looking in would ask just what is it you have said or done that is so wrong, as on the surface we have lost 9 out of 11 and have only just recently played any kind of football.

How about wanting us to lose and players to get injured ?

Good riddance Catchy there’s a few fans who are not supporters who should also go.

247 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

CB please any of the following Toby Alderweireld Samba Dawson Williams Hangerland !

248 Shiremagpies // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:23 PM

guys havnt been on since the summer transfer window this is the only time its exciting enough for me to justify leaving a post but debuchy is all over sky sports news………… just saying

249 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM

dannyo
its a start tho. how long will it be before we do bring in a cb. think it will defo be in the first week if mike and dereck have learned from there mistakes in the summer as they have all agrred they made massive ones

250 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Dannyo is right. Debuchy loves to attack and get forward, as long as Pardew drills it into him he needs to get back.

Demba Ba talking to Chelsea tonight, there is the kick in the teeth.

251 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Ba to meet with Chelsea tonight

252 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Ba to Chelsea?

Oh dear oh dear.

253 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

proudtobageordie @225
attaboy get those ill informed trolls exposed. Good work. I think I know who they are. Their seats at the ground are directly under the directors box. You could teach them a lasting lesson by launching a couple of meat pies at them from out of the directors box windows.Oops a daisy you’ll probably not have meat pies in the directors box. Sorted ! Cancel meat pie -substitute canape.
A couple of canape direct hits on their barnets will put those bounders in their place.

254 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Also Simpson to reading or Fulham…heard he has a meeting down London next week

255 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

transfer sage
where has that news come from????????????????

256 Fostino // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

wheres ba to chelsea coming from…its a good signing for them

257 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM

@proudtobageordie
It’s a great start indeed, make no mistake.
We need that CB next now to help stop the leakage and add goals.
Hopefully MA and DL stay supportive this window and we could have a class team at the start of February.

258 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Dannyo- in short yes! I have now watched the goal blitz on TV and it shows Simpson as if in a dazed state as if watching and not participating in defending. He is the weakest link.

259 ash // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM

toon brother you are an absolute idiot seriously have a massive word with yourself!

I’m new to this blog and just had to sign up and get in amongst this debate, coloccini is an immense centre half but lets face it he is a 1 man defence

Simpson – how he made it this far as a defender in the PL i will never know

Perch – is a DMC dogged brave body on the line but not good enough

Santon – i like going forward even if he is hughly predictable but his defensive capabilities are woeful

Williamson – Good in the air but far far to slow and gives away way to many needless fouls

And that is our defence people! One point to note regarding the game yesterday theo walcott took tiote out twice on the 5th and 7th goal take a look i cant beleive no one picked up on this clear as day for me.

260 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Fck demba ba we have cisse who will work for the team he is a greedy cnut and we are suffering because pards has no balls to drop cisse or ba and play an actual rm.

261 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Just been announced on super Sunday game

262 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

F***** yes !
Hello Debuchy.
Goodbye Simpson.

263 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

It is on Skysports news apparently

Ba to Chelsea.

1 in 1 out.

264 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

If we only lose Ba and Simpson then I’m not fussed.

Cisse may be unhappy with Ba leaving, but he should be delighted. I really believe that if Cisse was spearheading the attack then he’d be banging them in.

265 lynchmob // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

ba to chelsea knew he would go we need a decent strike asap

266 check the toastie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Looking forward to seeing Cisse play upfront. Wonder if Pardew drops Santon for Debuchy not Simpson

267 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Centre back next & hurry up about it !

268 Fostino // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:31 PM

where would we be without ba’s goals this season….probably last….but yet it may be a good thing if he leaves…hmn…….strange game!!

269 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

We should be looking for a wide forward to add to HBA & Obertan now – not another CF.

270 phizzyJ // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Why do they do this. They do not need him. It is ridiculous that we can finish higher than chelsea last season, dont do any strengthening, and look at us now, chelsea are just filling their dressing room with another striker who they dont really need. Standard football. Its just boring now. No competition just the same old news and this time its us who get crapped on.

271 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Any Chelsea fringe player worth taking maybe van Anholt ?

272 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

We either need to go out and sign a striker or ask Chelsea for one. Lukaku would have been perfect if he wasn’t at west brom. Gutted to lose a player capable of scoring twenty league goals, haven’t had one since shearer.

Genuinely hope that the we havent signed Debuchy for 5 million because we are meant to get around 5 million from selling Ba with him getting 2.5, I can’t blame him for going to Chelsea but the deal is bad for us all round

273 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

mister tuff
since when has the directors box had windows? have you eva been to sjp? im a season ticket holder in sw gallowgate. only go in directors box when i sponsor my team. as i am passionate

274 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

phizzy

Chelsea have one striker in the entire squad. So yes, they do need him!

275 NUFC FOR SALE // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Ba in talks with Chelsea expected to sign before Saturday

276 PortsladeToon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Quite happy to see Ba go he’s selfish as a footballer I just thank him for the work he has done with us and wave bye bye no player is bigger than the club and his ego is getting away with him.
also to get rid of those 5 agents will be a blessing in disguise.

277 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Hope ba rots on chelseas bench.

278 bills-son // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

If Ba wont sign a new contract with us its best he goes asap. His refusal to play out wide is also comprimising Pards and the team. I reckon Cisse will get right back among the goals if he plays through the middle and we need to replace Ba with a pacy forward who can run the channels. Remy imo would be ideal because he is also good in the air and can play as a genuine wide man if necessary.

279 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

@Ian Toon
Yesterday he was horrible, absolutely horrible. He got subbed, that should tell you enough.

280 Fostino // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

santon defently aint being dropped even tho he had a few errors sat but simpson offensvely is poor..in fairness, he is solid player that cost us little and has done well and all good teams need good offensive wing backs

281 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Mr Tuff
It did not take you long to get over the passing of your Messiah.
Also a few posts where you are respectful of our manager. Early start on the new year resolutions. Well done , good show.

282 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Bye-bye Ba, money makes the world go round after all

283 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Gutted if ba goes! But glad it’s early!!

284 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Lukaku swap !

285 Nufc_rulzz_our_heart // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Recent defeats will definately convince ashley to buy two class defenders..He knows what will happen if we get relegated…hope he has learnt his lessons from few years ago.Hope we score more than everton.

286 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

GOOD/BAD NEWS

ON ESPN INDIA THEY SIAD THAT SKY ARE REPORTING THAT CHELSEA ARE MEETING UP WITH DEMBA BA’S REPRESENTATIVES

JUST HEARD. MAKE WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE OF IT.

287 Nufc_rulzz_our_heart // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Recent defeats will definately convince ashley to buy two class defenders.He knows what will happen if we get relegated…hope he has learnt his lessons from few years ago.Hope we score more than everton.

288 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Does anyone understand why Ed wrote an article about Ameobi not appearing in the last couple of games?

He played yesterday…

289 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Mr Tuff – I am joking I understand from disciple Rotonda so do you- LOL.

290 Nufc_rulzz_our_heart // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Recent defeats will definately convince miketo buy two class defenders.He knows what will happen if we get relegated…hope he has learnt his lessons from few years ago.Hope we score more than everton.

291 phizzyJ // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Tds lukaku is on loan for this reason. Chelsea play with a high midfield, playing hazard, mata, oscar all off the striker, ba may play but not unless torres is injured, you dont keep a 50 mil current form player on the bench. But then agian for 7 mil for ba, im not surprised. More infuriated that we are one of those teams that players are at for the interim. No way we can build a squad when every time someone half decent comes along they are at risk of being transfered. Just feelin a bit batterd and bruised atm mate.

292 Special K // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

I know we’ll be sad to see Demba go, the lad’s done well for us but for me the only shame is that we’re only gonna pocket £5 and it could easily have been £15m. With his knees it wasn’t a bad idea to have get out clauses for both sides and let’s see how he enjoys the Chelsea madhouse anyway.

I believe a side of

————————-Krul————–
Debuchy—-Collocini—-S.Taylor—Santon
————————Tiote———-
————–Anita———–Cabaye——-
——Ben Arfa——————–Remy
————————Cisse—————-

has more balance than the 442 we’ve seen with Ba/Cisse shoehorned in together. That even leaves Marveaux/Obertan out who’ve been excellent the last two games.

293 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Ba is 7,5mill in. Finance Debuchy and add to the kitty. (which should be massive by this point)

294 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Baines Bad injury Got to hurt.

295 Nufc_rulzz_our_heart // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Recent defeats will definately convince miketo buy two class defenders.He knows what will happen if we get relegated.hope he has learnt his lessons from few years ago.Hope we score more than everton.

296 calvinho // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

The dressing room has been divided by Ba and his talks with other clubs. Ba & his advisors met with QPR and now ate due to meet with Chelsea. He’s a good player, but disruptive.

297 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Hoping the fact we’ve heard nothing, Anita should be ok for Everton as Pardew said was possible…

In that case i’d play…

———————Krul——————-

Simpson-Williamson–Coloccini-Santon

———-Anita–Tiote–Bigirimana——–

Marveaux————————-Obertan

——————Cisse/Ba——————

Extra man in the middle so that we can safely sacrafice one of them to help out with Evertons threat down the left.

We could definitely get a result if that team contained and played a careful game, whilst maintaining some of the attacking threat we’ve showed.

We’re a better attacking team than Everton, they’re just far better defensively.

298 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

How ironic would it be that after walking away from us (the only club that would touch him after downing down with West Ham) that Ba get’s his 100k a week contract at Chelski and his knee blows up

299 sanchez // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Some positives:
-Despite shipping 11 goals in 2 games our midfield and attack have generally given a much better account of themselves in these last two games. Whereas they have looked toothless for most of the season.
-Bigirimana has looked good all season and is ready to fill Tiote’s boots
-Marveaux and Obertan are finally starting to come good.
-This 7-3 could be the catalyst to jumpstart our season again. Questions have to be asked of such a horrific scoreline. I even think we will sign a player in the window.
-Jonas can’t really attack because he’s lost too much pace but but he is still a good left back. That’s where we should be playing him. He does need to benched for a couple of games to remind him that he needs to work for his place. Don’t know how that’s a positive, but there you go.

Some negatives:
-I don’t know what happened to Tiote. I used to love the guy. Can’t make a decent interception and has no control of the ball any more. Now it seems he can only pass to the opposition. He was HORRIFIC yesterday. There have been many games where he has let us down this season (derby esp) but that was something else. How often does he lose the ball outside our box leading to a swift opposition break (first time he did this was early on in the 5-1 on halloween :p)? If I were AP I’d bench him for a month at least, then either sell him or hope it gives him a kick up the arse. We will be lucky to get 5m for Tiote if we do. QPR might have him.
-Substitutions. Listen, I think AP is a good manager. A good man manager, anyway. I think he is tactically stubborn though. Ever since he joined I have always believed this has been his downfall. That heartbreaking 3-3 against WBA was a class example of this. Pardew knew the squad would be more tired than Arsenal’s. When we were drawing yesterday he needed to have the tactical nous to get us something out of the game. It was sink or swim and he bollocksed it. Bringing Shola on doesn’t really help in that situation. He’s for when we’re beating the likes of Fulham at home and we’re trying to wind down the last 20 mins. Or desperately trying to beat bottom of the table QPR. Not when we’re chasing a game at the Emirates.
-Shane Ferguson, despite having a sweet patch earlier in the season, can not defend. At all. He is not, and never will be, a defender. You’ve only got to look at the size of him. He should be playing on the left wing, coming on for Obertan late in games. There is still promise left in him if we do this.
-”Ba and Cisse can’t play together”. What a load of absolute twaddle. Of course they can play together. They’ve been showing glimpses of it recently. It looks very promising. The notion that they supposedly can’t play together is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Ba needs to be playing a slightly deeper role, as the ‘target man’ if you like, he likes to come and get the ball. Cisse likes to sit on the shoulder of the defence. How does this suddenly not work? There are loads of teams who set up like this. The problem is AP playing one of them on the wing. At times they are 50yds+ apart from each other. How are they supposed to form a strike partnership if they are at practically opposite ends of the pitch? It was assumed when Cisse came in, they already had a partnership from playing for Senegal, when in fact I don’t think they had ever been on the pitch at the same time up until then.
-I was going to slag Willo and Perch but they’ve been decent last few games. Not Perch’s fault he’s 5’7 and is asked to play CB. I still think we need to replace Willo. No disrespect but I don’t think he’s cut out for the prem.

This should be our team when the squad is fit.
Krul
Santon, Colo, Saylor, Jonas
Anita Cabaye
Ben Arfa
Ba Cisse

Anita and Ben Arfa can drift outward to supplement wide attacks. Marveaux and Obertan are perfect impact players so leave them on the bench.

Also, Europe has very little to do with our league campaign crumbling. Many other factors.

300 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

So we could have 2 strikers lol. Ba off to Chelsea. My god Ashley has some building to do.

301 Graeme // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Ba to Chelski was being discussed during the half time chat at the Everton v Chelski game. They reckon its a done deal

302 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Demda ba should go? refuses to play left. so selfish in his play. Demanding to much money. Cisse will be better player in the middle as he is a team player. Don’t get me wrong he has bagged the goals this term but look what Cisse done last season through the middle.

303 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Ba should have been out wide or benched but pards has no balls glad he has gone good riddence greedy cnut in more ways than one.

304 toon-boi arran // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Ba on his way to chelski meeting there representitives tonight ! Remy is a must! Debuchy finally simpson can sit on the bench and learn a thing or two!

305 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Debuchy in Ba out yet neither actually signed up let’s not over inflate ones value and slate anothers Sky have sold and bought hundreds of players which turned out to be nonsense

Will wait and see what has happened when Feb rolls around

306 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM

TBH we look at our best last season with Ba out left with Cisse through the middle but then Ba didn’t like that formation so Pardew changed it this season and we have been a shadow of last years side

307 moonraker // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Ba to Chelski but Debuchy in and there are others coming

308 Crawfordladd17 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Means Remy will join us I think because his options are only us, QPR and Chelsea. Then Ba will join Chelsea as will Falco I think, then why would anyone join QPR. Sell Simpson to anyone from London for £2m, and buy Douglas for £3m then Sissoko for £5m

309 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

I am on the record for wanting Ba to stay. His contribution has been immense. I thought he was our best player yesterday. His advisers/ agents could of course be using the Chelsea interest as leverage and part of their negotiating stance. I would love him to stay. He’s a proven PL goalscorer with a very high shots: goals ratio.

310 sanchez // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

PS Are we getting Debuchy now?

311 moonraker // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Watch Papiss start scoring now

312 GeorgeNUFC // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Too bad about Ba, as well as Shola going to the ACON our only experienced striker other than Cisse is Xisco, looks like it’ll be Sammy coming on most games at around 70mins now until (if) we get Remy. And is there any recent news on Moussa Sissoko?

313 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Remy reported to favor a move to Milan

314 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM

If his clause is met can we still say no? I’m thinking about loyalty payments if he didn’t ask to leave? Hopefully he doesn’t have one. Whatever we get from the sale is not enough for him, if he goes from westham to us Chelsea he has done very well. Watch us now p155 about not signing another striker for three or four weeks ‘struggling to find value’

451 is definitely the way to go in the meantime, I like that 451 with remy but if he doesn’t come it needs to be marveaux or obertan

315 phizzyJ // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM

I find that the biggest pain though is that we let him go when we rather he stay and then he plays against us next seaon and bangs em in.

316 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM

WWYCD

It’s not Sky – it’s the French source niafron was talking about that makes me hopeful. He said that they’re a respectable newspaper who genuinely never print anything but fact.

317 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Blayden why the he’ll would chelsea sell lakaku he is clearly a hot prospect who is getting experience with a decent prem side in west brom. Would probably cost 20m + ba and they still wouldn’t consider it as they are not exactly strapped for cash. Silly comment that.

318 NUFC FOR SALE // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Don’t think anyone should kid themselves that losing Ba will not be a massive loss.
It’s going to cost a fortune to replace a striker of his class.
I don’t think there’s anyone available that could replace him?

319 nickfish90 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

DEBUCHY ON HIS WAY! ?

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/2/8372400/debuchy-heading-to-newcastle

I hope this is true, that would really give us a boost going into the new year!

320 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Sky are usually right when they claim something on sky sources and not just a random rumour so I expect they are both very accurate.

I find it strange they say Ba has been allowed to meet with Chelsea but no bid has yet been made, but if they agree terms then they will pay the release clause.

I think we should be pety with this and make then bid first, don’t do either Chelsea or Ba any favours.

I appreciate his goals but that’s it. We move on and hopefully improve

321 moonraker // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Sky sports reporting deal agreed on Debuchy:-)

322 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Ian I will be sad to lose Demba but we are in a tough place and he wants out so ultimately we have to sell … We have to hope Pappis can find his shooting boots and but an ample replacement !

323 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

TDS
Means stuff all to me newspapers are around to sell themselves not to inform people anymore, plenty of the same stories were around during summer and he’s still a Lille player

324 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Silly silly demba ba going to chelski to warm the bench. Will Benetez drop his pall torres for demba ba. i don’t think so. he is only going to chelsea for the money. will he pass a medical?????

325 phizzyJ // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Ian toon

Unfortunately i dont think they think like that cos they will get a lot mor if they move him away.chelsea will end up paying him stupid money, we just cnt or wont compete…but mostly cant.

326 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Blaydon
Nice line up at post 242
BA up front with 6 midfielders
That’d be nice if we’re allowed to field 12 players lol
We actually need it at the moment

327 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Ian

Ba is off, nailed on. He wants money that our club simply doesn’t pay. And he will get that elsewhere as he has scored consistently over his whole career.

It’s fine by me, we are losing a goal scorer but we still have a very good one on the side.

328 ochytoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

So that leaves us with one out and out striker for January… who is also really out of form. Shit.

329 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

In a way we have two top class no 9′s and it doesn’t work. Ba going is such a shame but the lad clearly isn’t committed to nufc or he would have signed the upgraded contract.

So fairwell Ba, hello Debuchy and Remy?

330 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Sanchez – I agree with how Ba and Cisse could play and link together Think we have a better chance though with 11 players!

331 Wandering Geordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Newcastle agree a deal to sign France defender Mathieu Debuchy from Lille, Press Association Sport .. just announced

332 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Nufc for sale err we already have one his name is cisse

333 HBA better than CR7 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Ba Will not leave Newcastle utd …He should nt…Nd he ll nt…

334 Jonny // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

———————–Krul————————

Debuchy——-Colo——-Sakho——–Santon

—————–Tiote——–Anita—————

Ben Arfa————-Cabaye—————Remy

————————-Cisse———————-

Could be our team by end of jan.

335 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Cisse is a great striker – if played as the lone no 9 he will start banging them in mark my words! We need to sign a great 2nd striker and a young upcoming no 9 as backup.

336 IITianToon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Wtf is Pardew saying: “..Remie Streete should not be near our bench..”
True, but how would young Remie feel after hearing that?? Man, Pardew needs to watch what he is speaking.

337 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Nufc83 what happens if he gets injured. Your forgetting that cisse has three all season in the league when Ba has 13. Stop kidding yourself man

338 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Or is that adam campbell?

339 phizzyJ // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Jonny

No marveaux???

340 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

If Ba goes we have 1 striker who is bang out of form next one is a aged Shola who can’t start a game then Nile ‘Jail sentance’ Ranger and Adam Campbell aye I can see why everyones so happy

341 nufc786 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/12/30/nufc-striker-demba-ba-set-for-talks-with-chelsea-72703-32517249/?

there is substance for ba to chelsea

342 IITianToon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

OMG OMG Debuchy signing in ALL newspapers… so we did it!!!!!

343 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Ba and Cisse doesn’l link cause Ba would rather try a 70% chance to score than pass to Cisse who has a 90% chance to score.
Cisse is not like that.
Also, Cisses ball retention has greatly improved over the last few games, he’ll be better than ever once Ba leaves.

344 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

We will need 2 strikers once Ba goes. We MUST have something in the pipe line as our next match aint far away for a Ba replacement.

345 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Nick

Ba leaving doesn’t guarantee cisse goals but it gives him a better chance.

Cisse is best centrally and by himself.

This year he has partnered Ba or played right.

It’s the same problem as why Ba didn’t score last season after cisse arrived.

346 hoppernufc // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

i just dont understand whats happened to our star players from last season, krul has been awful this season his kicking gets worse every game and his reactions are shocking, colo is all over the place for some reson this season he comes charging out of defence leaving massive gaps for the opposition and tiote well he is just shocking he only had a first good season and since then hes been awful he isnt the same player at all and he dosent dominate and boss hes a liability these 3 were are central spine last season and theyve all gone backwards this season.

347 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM

how come all of a sudden everyone believes everything and anything papers and sky sports are reporting? Ba is driving to Chelsea and Debuchy is a done deal, just because a few websites posted it?

You’re a fickle lot.

348 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM

its all well and good that Cisse will score plenty of goals for us if he’s played through the middle, but if he picks up a knock and Ba leave for Chelski what then?

349 DarloGeordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM

That’s about right sell our best player (well most important) and buy a defender….

Sell a striker, buy two defenders, swings n roundabouts… Guaranteed we won’t buy a striker, another gamble in the fact that we will now be relying on cisse to score goals. What happens if he doesn’t?? What happens if he gets injured??

Oh that’s right sammi, Shola and ranger!!

If we sell Ba and don’t get another striker we are done this season

350 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Hopefully we get remy then that will see us to the summer and we can look to strengthen again

351 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Ian Toon -afternoon thought you had been keeping a low profile after the last 2 games but nice to see you have re-surfaced to celebrate todays good news. Seems Percy Parsnip has recently being doing more than his coaching duties -player in- and the good but potentially troublesome Demba away. Interesting times ahead.
Have you sorted out those two reprobates from yesterday who were associating Percy with historic villians -a couple of scoundrels if you as me.

352 phizzyJ // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Disregard my last comment…nick_9 makes a good point. At the end of the day if we could have several first team strikers, enough to have someone like ba warm the bench, then i would be happy so can see why chelsea want him. We need more than just a ba replacement, remy, shola and cisse will not be adequate, imo.

353 rainrix // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

So if debuch signs say on the 1st could he be available for everton?

354 Beattie25 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I preferred the good old days before social media.

Sat for hours watching teletext, waiting ages for the page to come round linking NUFC with a player and having to stew over it on your own or with mates.

Now every cock comes from nowhere believing Debuchy has signed and Demba has gone. Some are already slagging off Demba and Danny Simpson before anythings happened.

What if we have to keep them both? Why would they give their all with knobs having a go at them?

I’ll be the first to say Danny Simspon isn’t the best but all this premature ejaculation is embarrassing and potentially damaging.

355 Graeme // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Cisse with Remy Loic (if he comes) could be a far better partnership than Cisse / Ba – they are different types of player so shouldn’t be falling over each other half the time!!

I cant blame Ba for leaving – If NUFC really wanted him, they would have paid the value but didn’t want to do it. Such is life, we all move on.

356 IITianToon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:57 PM

@Toonlyf but EVERY paper is reporting it and saying the same thing.. and quoting Press Association Sport, isnt that believable enough? Or am I missing something here.

357 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Darlo

We can’t stop Ba going he has a clause!!

358 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:57 PM

nick 9
cisse has been played out of position all season. look what he did last season. I think he is a better striker than ba

359 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Exactly WWYCD, we could have done with a third choice striker anyway but now we might have to replace our leading scorer for two seasons. There’s no guarantee Cisse will start scoring again but I certainly hope we give him lots of service so he can try.

As for Ba it’s pittance but I cannot see him getting many games at Chelsea unless he plays on the wing, he is ok technically but n that good. I think he will either get frustrated at Chelsea being wasted or he will need to really find his feet early on to challenges Torres. Oh and Chelsea come to st James on February 2nd

360 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Rio Ferdinand and Warren Barton just said that they think Ba is going to Chelsea…
I dunno what they’ve heard or read tho, but it doesn’t bode well.

361 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Toonlyf

Why sky quote sky sources and not just say it as speculation they are very rarely wrong.

That’s why people believe it.

362 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I would rather Ba stayed, but if his heads not in it he has no place here. Simple as that.

363 sanchez // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Originally signed as a stopgap, Ba’s contribution has been enormous. He has scored a silly amount of goals when playing as a striker. We need to be getting Ba and Cisse playing together. It can definitely be done. I can’t believe people want him gone.

If we were without Ba, and didn’t sign a replacement (which going off past windows is likely) we would end up with Cisse, Shola and Ranger. Not sure how far along Campbell is.

364 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Lee Ryder also saying Ba off to chelsea

365 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Transfer – Hi. It does look like a good deal for him. But if he goes we need to get quality in straight away and not rely totally on Cisse. I would hope that it could be a seamless transition. Anyone coming in cannot be always expected to hit the goal trail at once. Remy would be a good fit and provide more fluidity. I hope Ba stays.

366 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Could this weekend get any worse ?

367 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Be is a great player and one we’d all like to keep but he does not want to be here. He criticised our playing style and won’t sign a new contract so it’s baba im afraid if it happens.

368 LGFUAD21 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Ba going may be a blessing in disguise,

I am confident in cisse to get goals in the right position and it’ll allow us to play a more balanced and suitable formation by getting Marveaux involved more.

Santon has a few goals in him, I reckon Anita does too.

Btw how bloody good is Baines?

369 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Im not saying don’t buy a st i am saying we don’t need to go out and buy another no9 type of player for millions. Bring in a young no9 and look for a good wide player aka remy. People saying cisse out of form is harsh its clearly affected him playing out wide and also with ba who is the greediest player to pull on a black and white shirt. Cisse will bang them in once back in middle

370 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Ba is a top class inform striker. If he has been bought by the Russian Mafioso – it ensures that another club will not have his services to affect their (Chelski’s) ambitions this season. Simple case of buying up any opposition.

371 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

IITianToon…

It’s obviously got some legs, but no it’s not believable enough, no.

It’s the press! They just copy eachothers stories because they think they’re missing out on hot topics. They’re all sheep.

372 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Reports are saying that if Ba goes We only get 5 million as the player will pick up 2 million, but its claimed that his representatives are asking for up to 5 million to do any deal

373 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

proud- Ba is a goalscorer whilst Cisse is an instinctive goalscorer as he illustrated against Man U.

374 NUFC FOR SALE // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Don’t kid yourself that we have a ready replacement for ba in cisse.
No way cisse could have held the ball up and played that lone striker role like ba did yesterday.
Get real if ba goes we need a replacement and we’ll not get one of his class for less than 20 million.
But u can’t run a team with a player that has this get out clause hanging over his head every window.
If he’s not going to sign a now contract then it’s right to let him go.

375 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:02 PM

If Ba does go to Chelsea good luck to him hope be bangs in the goals but I want him to stay. Remy isn’t coming, doesn’t really want to let’s face it he’s well known and can get a better club

376 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:02 PM

My view on the game

The scoreline does not reflect the game as a whole, we played well and Pardew set us out well tactically and we were probably the better side in the 1st half.

But the reason i think we did not win is because we constantly gave away possession cheaply and allowed them to punish us with their fast counter attacking football, the constant loss of possession was mostly Santon, Bigi, Tiote, Cisse & Simpson and i thought it was mainly a lack of technical ability, experience and awareness rather than tactics. Our defence was poor but they kept getting hit with low numbers by a very fast and competent arsenal counter attack with excellent finsihers and most defenses would have conceded several goals againt that, it was always going to be a high scoring game.

We then went all out at the end for the equalizer and were unfortunate it went their way then once they got the 5th we capitulated, i think we were unlucky and could have easily have won if things had went our way.

I think many of our players just aren’t as good people think they are, sure Santon has his moments but he is sloppy and gives the ball away sometimes, the top class players don’t. Bigi should not be starting in our team yet, yes he is good and could be amazing but starting away to Arsenal is just not what you want, Simpson had quite a few attacking opportunites yesterday but did nothing with them, he needs to be replaced.

If Ba goes and Cisse gets his chance to play upfront by himself again, it worries how well he will be able hold up the ball when things aren’t going our way and thats what we need.

After the last 2 performances i really can’t see any chance of us getting relegated, but we need more signings and hopefully Debuchey will invigorate Cabaye if he comes

377 DarloGeordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Spuggy

Suppose so, guess many already resigned to the idea of losing Ba, I prefer Cisse anyway not quite sure why tho suppose it has to do with last season.

However if we sell Ba we need another striker as well as 2 defenders, so Simpson going Ba going that’s 2 out I wonder who the 2nd in is going to be……

378 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Marty @ 14:29 meant to say if Anita is not fit

379 nufc786 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/12/30/nufc-striker-demba-ba-set-for-talks-with-chelsea-72703-32517249/?

for those who missed

380 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

watching moneyball now. things are looking similar atm.

381 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Ian

Yeh it would be good If he stays but it’s too disruptive to the team I think now, constant speculation won’t help.

Ba and cisse don’t play well together as they both look to score goals.

They need to play up top alone or be with a striker who is a creator or hold up player (ameobi, Heskey, etc)

It’s neither of their faults that they get played together or one gets played out wide…that’s the job of the manager.

If we had signed another forward or winger in the summer and had a fully fit team I imagine pardew would have dropped one and used a bit more rotation. As it is they both have to play and one is sacrificed for the team.

382 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:06 PM

WWYCD

Whatever happens with Ba is beyond the clubs control. He deserves to be paid on a par with the other players of his quality, and he’s good enough to be challenging for titles – and clearly that’s what he now wants.

The guy’s been leaving for a year now! It’s creating a bloody circus. I’d much rather lose him in the summer, but if it forces the club and Pardew’s hand to freshen things up a bit then that’ll be a positive.

Cisse is horrific out on the right, we just have to hope that he can start banging them in again in a CF position.

383 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:06 PM

http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/sports/losc-mathieu-debuchy-file-vers-newcastle-exclusif-ia182b204n931168

384 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:06 PM

I agree cisse needs to play down the middle but I’ve seen him miss five or six chances that last season he would have scored, he blazes his shots over lately but the one at old Trafford was a good reminded. We need him central with good support and service. Anyone watching Chelsea Everton see pienars goal? That’s the support we need in the box and what Anita brings.

If we can go out and sign another striker straight away I will be happier but I can’t see it. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see how things go against Everton before seeing how urgent the need for a striker is.

385 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Sage – Time after time “SS sources” come to absolutely nothing, and are just left to fade out as everybody just forgets about the once “certain signing” and moves onto new ones. I’m firmly part of the “T-shirt @ SJP” crew.

386 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Lol people sagging cisse when comparing him to ba what were you saying last season you idiots. Playing cisse rm was actually hurting the team so at least this solves that problem

387 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Slagging*

388 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Nufc for sale

Cisse is a lone striker and has got a better goal record over his career in that role.

Why 20 mil? For a big name?

Ba was free, cisse was 8 mil, jelevic at Everton was 7 mil, michu was 2 mil

Players are available, if you scout well you can pick them up.

389 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Mister Tuff. I have had very little holiday over Xmas. I haven’t been keeping a low profile at all but working whilst you have been working on your manuscript for a children’s book. Pleased to read your I am my own man post I was beginning to wonder-LOL.

390 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Toonlyf

I’ll just have to disagree then as sky sources are right a hell of a lot of the time.

391 Paps // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I actually cant believe that we’ve signed debuchy. Finally some positive news

392 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Toon lyf

Although I do agree I feel much more comfortable when they are say next to pardew telling is how they have always loved Newcastle haha

393 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Shame to lose BA even though his place in the centre has been awkward for Cisse and the team as he’s the one that’s been scoring.
You might say well he’s in the middle it’s easier to score-correct,but he’s much Better than Cisse at gettin in the right places this year.
Cisse has been constantly caught offside when played in the middle lately
We’ll hopefully get someone in quickly and hopefully see Cisse bangin them in too as we know he’s capable of it.
If the rumor is true then thanks Demba,you’ve been top quality for us.
Hopefully the new player can strike up a partnership with Cisse and both can score like Cole or Shearer used to for us.
If the Debuchy link is true then we’ve got a top player in although the wrong side of 25,we’ll get 3/4 good years out of him.
We’ve got the makings of a quality team,we all see that if everyone was injury free then we’re just a couple of players short.

394 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Ba is January on the official club calendar, as was Carroll

395 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Haha, about bloody time. Good news. 3 more in please.

396 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

What has happened to meiralles for everton injured. Quality little player him would work brilliantly alongside cisse but doubt everton would sell as only come in summer.

397 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

proudtobeageordie

just come back on and see your comment. gone quiet?? no i just dont spend all day staring at this screen.

the only way you could have possibly proved us wrong is if you presented this news BEFORE we all heard about it. i repeat it was all over twitter BEFORE you posted it.

forgive me if i am cynical

but pleased about the news

398 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

TDS
The club could get another striker signed up, could of invested in the summer and kept us competative, could of sorted his contract last Jan or could of simply kept Leon Best

Nothing they can do now but really they could of done plenty to set us up to be ready for this…reckon there’s a striker waiting to be announced as a new signing come Jan 1st? Nope me either

399 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Ian @388 -did have a thought that you may have choked on one of those root vegetables you ma puts in her stew.

400 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Nufc 83

Why would a player leave Everton for Newcastle at the moment..?

401 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Pardew certainly knows what to make his new signings say

402 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Transfer- your so right. The vast majority of our fans believe you have to spend a small fortune to get a quality player. Like we did with Cabaye, HBA, Santon, Krul etc. It’s being shrewd in the transfer market and Pardew and Carr have an excellent track record. Cabaye’s
return can’t come quick enough.

403 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Sky sources are wrong around 75% of the time imo people just remember the correct ones and forget the wrong ones

404 Toonleee // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Cheer up you depressed folk we finaly got debuchy GREAT NEWS!!!!

405 Toonleee // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Its true coz its on the bbc website

406 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM

No one can b suprised about ba leaving we’ve knew it was gonna happen just need to make sure remy happens n we come out the best

407 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Tds is he injured or out of favour because if he’s sitting on bench every week important sure we have some sway

408 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM

WWYCD

I thought we’d both accepted this a long time ago? I just can’t be bothered to get angry about it any more mate haha. But of course, I fully appreciate why those who pay to watch the club would be – and should be – asking serious questions.

Hate to bring it up again, but I’m always worried about more money falling into the same black hole that the £35m did

409 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Important = im predictive text ffs

410 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Wwycd

I am trying to think of the last sky sources that Was wrong…genuinely can’t think of it….not trying to be arsey here so sorry if it comes off that way.

I find they are generally correct.

The rumours they do on that big transfer board is full of rubbish but usually the sources on breaking news are good.

411 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:18 PM

there’s not too many Everton players i would even want, i don’t think any of them are THAT gifted. They’re just extremely well drilled.

Baines and Fellaini are very good.

Jagielka, Distin and Jelavic pretty good.

Mirallas looks Ok.

Rest, average well drilled players, whom are scared of their managers’ angry scottish persona so they play for their lives (and ears) for 90+ minutes. Sadly Pardew doesn’t have that effect on players.

412 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:18 PM

my starting 11 after a serious look at what we have got when fit
krul
debeuchy saylor collo santon
anita tiote
benny cabaye marveaux
cisse
what does people think

413 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:19 PM

This is mad. We can’t get rid of Ba. We’ll need 3 strikers. Cisse would be our only proven striker. I’d rather we didn’t sign Debuchy and keep Ba. Ba is too important to us. He must be the top scorer in the league.

414 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Ts agreed the breaking news is bang on and usually last to report as i believe they must want it to be concrete before reporting.

415 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I am partial to the parsnip we had it and loads of other vegetables with turkey on Xmas day. If Only i could find a women who could cook like my mam. You see it’s not so bad on the bright side- LOL.
Seasons greetings oh flowery one!!

416 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:21 PM

TDS
Aye I know mate but I can’t help but get angry about this stuff haha. That 35 mill is still down the back of the sofa isn’t it?

Ah well second half of the season is going to be a struggle with or without Ba

417 Andymax // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Letting your top striker leave in Jan when we’re struggling in the league is really poor management. This should of been sorted out last summer.

418 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:22 PM

So if Ba leaves we need to bring in:

Remy
Doumbia/Sulejami/Zarate
Sissoko
Alderewerield

419 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Ketsbia – we have no control over ba staying or goin that’s why it’s called a release clause, I jus hope we can get remy n no one will care about ba leaving

420 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Iantoon – true we find some great players for cheap which we are thankful for but are we finding them quick enough or being too right to buy them. Pardew knew Ba was going to be leaving otherwise he wouldn’t have kept Shola back, that was when I realised he was definitely going. So we’ve known for a while so we must have some targets? Contingency planning?

421 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM

actually, Sylvain Distin has turned into an superb Centre-Back.

Off now lads, hopefully will return later to some further development on Debuchy.

422 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM

gatesheadmag
i don’t do twitter. and i was the first to break the news on debeuchy as a done deal

423 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

proud- you’ll be circulating a photo of Debuchy signing next!!
We’ll Chelsea have shown us how to beat Everton- HTL. Hope the game has taken a lot out of them physically.

424 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

TS
Debuchy, De Jong, Hoilett and Douglas had all signed for us last summer. Erding, Gameiro and Gervinho the one before (as well as Cisse) thats just with us add in the other clubs in the league its more miss than hitas far as am concerned

425 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Lads, Is it just me that thinks Pardew will not sell Ba unless he has an alternative in the bag already! Surely he will have learnt from the Carroll situation! Right? :S We have a Powerhouse of a young striker coming on trial. However, on the other hand…….Pardew might not have learned from the whole Carroll saga.

426 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

TS
Don’t worry mate don’t think ur being ar*sy haha am not trying to be either am just very cynical about all transfer rumors

427 wreker16 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Is there an actual link, 100% confirming debuchy signing and or demba ba leaving?

428 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Either remy, or isn’t doumbia available for 15 mil or something?

We NEED a striker brough in,
And someone different to cisse.

Either a winger or someone who play alongside cisse.

With everyone for for us,
4231 looks the way to go.

429 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

- Sulejmani
- Remy
- Aubameyang
- Doumbia
- Lens

Anyone got any other suggestions?

430 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

He’s definitely going to leave now. Chelsea only have 1 recognised striker in Torres. They’ll have the best squad in the league now. We needed another striker even if Ba stayed, so now we need 2. Ba is more of a goal threat than Remy.

If we had to get rid of someone, it would’ve been Tiote. Now we’re in serious trouble.

431 toonLYF // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

wreker16…

Nope, think everyone is just a bit bored.

…either that or this is the dress rehearsal.

(or they just believe everthing )

432 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

WWYCD- I think we got of lightly then. We would have had more poor than good signings and at high wage cost. Hoilett, Gervinho are not impressing for starters.

433 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:29 PM

WWYCD

Sky never said that we’d signed those players though… They said we were interested – which we may well have been.

434 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Rafa out ! Bring back Di Matteo !

If they let Lampard go their a bunch of idiots.

435 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Magpies-till-d3ath

EAXCTLY mate. Surely we have a player ready to come in straight away to replace Ba. Remember Pardew said we will be bringing players in that the press have not mentioned.

436 Transfer Sage // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Wwycd

They are clever how they report though…always link hit rarely confirm deals until done.

I never trust anything and I have friends at the club haha

437 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Ba out means cisse gets his proper role back, remy in means he takes cisses current role which. He can actually do

438 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Ian
Possibly true but we’d have some depth haha actually think Gervinho would of been a hit had he signed for us but that’s a different matter

439 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Gamiero or erdinc?

Pardew has no choice but to sell if its a release clause? I just hope he is out there stressing to Ashley that we still need a centre back and now a good striker

440 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

ian toon
as soon as ive spoke to him (not)lol
this is the only bit of transfer news ive ever posted on here as i don’t speculate. And as for any other news im told ill not post it just keep it to myself as you only get slagged for doing so. and by the way not to depress you fickle lot debeuchy is the only one from now apart from…………………..

441 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Wouldn’t mind Danny graham n remy

442 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

We are not selling BA, we don’t have a choice

443 Magpies-till-d3ath // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

I swear, if that fat piece of crap Mike Ashley doesn’t seriously sort himself out and empty his wallet this month, I’m going to track him down and pull his trousers down in public for everyone to see his fat hole!

444 rainrix // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

@Magpies-Till-D3ath

Pards hasnt got the power to prevent ba from leaving anyway. With the contract situation i imagine a priority would be to scout a replacment regardless.

445 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Indian is right stop saying we’re selling ba we hav no say in the matter

446 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Sneijder off to Liverpool, Really

447 toonarmy81 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Debuchey fee agreed 5mill ish medical n personal terms 2 b sortd out yet …… As for Ba his agents are talkn 2 Chelsea so we’ l hav 2 wait n see on dat 1

448 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Seriously, we are a joke club. We agree a deal with a quality player, but then, moment later, we are about to lose our most influential player this season.

It is one step forward and two steps back. This is a disgrace. Ba is the best striker in the league.

449 WWYCD // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

TDS
They always say the deal is close thought which for me is pretty similar. They just put it in a way where they have wiggle room…I could say we are interested in Corciha now and end up as a source, way news is reported these days sources aren’t checked because it takes too long so its all push first check later why I hate newspapers haha

TS
Haha which is where we rub each other the wrong way haha when ur talking football I enjoy ur posts when ur putting up rumours we fall out all in good fun though

450 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Ba’s agents are bloody ruthless greedy sods.

451 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

What age is Distin now?
He’s still playing and he plays every game and rarely gets shown up.
Shows that defenders can play well into their 30′s
He’s probably no older than 34 but it shows we don’t have to get a 23 year old although they’ve got a sell on value which our boardroom love and of xcourse a younger player will usually be quicker

452 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Good luck to Demba Ba.
One of the best free transfers ever.

Would of been gutted if he went to Qpr like lol

Cant really blame him for going to chelski.

453 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM

nick- There really is little excuse not to have a replacement lined up. The sword of Damocles has been hanging over us for two windows.
I would want to know just what our scouting staff were doing if not.
Shola might be numerically an option but nothing else.

454 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

We should just terminate Williamson, Simpson, Gosling, Tavernier and Shola’s contracts and give Ba £90k per week.

455 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Matt Spiro ?@mattspiro
Newcastle and Lille are discussing final details of Mathieu Debuchy’s 6m euro move, say La Voix du Nord. Debuchy has packed his bags

Take it as a gospel now

456 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

I think we have a wow signing in the pipe work to replace Ba…..or more wishful thinking lol

457 wreker16 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Kets

Do u actually think ba is the best in the league? Van persie springs to mind….. As does aguero…..

458 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

The BBC is reporting we have agreed a deal for Debuchy so it looks like we may have got our man after all. I f Ba leaves then Seydou Doumbia would be my ideal replacement as he would probably be the quickest player in the Premier league if he came. Also we need another CB as Taylor can not be relied on to keep fit.

———————-Krul———————–

–Debuchy—Alderwireld—Collocini—Santon–

———–Tiote——————-Anita———

———————Cabaye———————

——HBA———————–Doumbia——

———————-Cisse———————

That team might take the pain of Ba leaving away

459 Jonny // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Ba is 100 per cent not the best striker in the league, he’s not even the best striker at the club IMO.

460 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:42 PM

We got our money worth out of him, no doubt about.

If Ashley was so smart, he should of paid him 90k a week then sold him for double the price in January.

461 PortsladeToon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:43 PM

nick_9
that’s because they know they are going in January, can’t see NUFC agreeing to let Ba speak to others until they have sorted a replacement so someone must be close to being landed

462 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Doumbia must be on the list, from what I’ve seen of him he looks decent.

463 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Ketsbia with usual rubbish ba best in league and abied should be starting even though you have only seen him play against limited opposition and mostly non competatively. Go back to your hospital bed you idiot

464 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM

davy

I’d really like it if we could get Graham. Local lad, small wages, works his socks off and would probably bag 10 goals a season.

465 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Wrecker since the start of last year only van pursie and Rooney have scored more than Ba

466 hdavid23 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

so, we get Debuchy and get rid of Ba… watch out world, here comes the Cisse magic again!

467 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

All the press going on about Debuchy now.

IMO we have him signed.

Too many people have confirmed it for it to be untrue. Now Lets get a CB and a striker in.

468 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Ba’s agents want a deal with Abramovich where they all get a nice package and loan the yacht for a week each summer
Can we get Lampard in?
He’ll be lookin for a lovely pay day now so we couldn’t afford him but he’s pure quality,the Gary Speed type of player only with a better scoring ratio.

469 LGFUAD21 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Gamiero or erdinc?

Pardew has no choice but to sell if its a release clause? I just hope he is out there stressing to Ashley that we still need a centre back and now a good striker

Good shouts.

I would take Gameiro. And reckon he’d come cheapish.

470 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Danny Graham would be great as backup. Plus he might give that extra few percent playing for his hometown club

471 Blaydon-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Great team that Big Pappa !

472 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Conaldo

But isn’t that just how it works? You only need one semi-respectable news outlet to make the claim, then the rest just follow.

473 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Would hate to see ba leave for chelsea and them to turn him into a flop ..He going mad at newcastle when he couldn’t score because cisse was getting them how the hell is he gona hace chelsea when they have torres n all going for falcao and have that lukaku guy coming back from loan …wast of a player imo

474 LGFUAD21 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Also if a deal can be agreed thn I don’t see why remy wouldn’t want to come here.

Remy, Cabaye, hatem, debuchy

4 French internationals all playing alongside week in week out would be hard to not get into the full French squad providing the are doing well at the club.

475 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Kevy the extra 200 thousand a month might help him out with that

476 GEORDIE69 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

It is one step forward and two steps back. This is a disgrace. Ba is the best striker in the league.

KETSBAIA9 – Every comment that you post, boils my piss. You are a 1st degree clown!

477 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Didnt Pards say if Ba goes we will not be replacing him until the summer?

478 wreker16 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Nick 9
I don’t doubt him being an awesome player, but he’s not the best in the league. Van persie is

479 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I don’t want to see ba gone but sure what can you do about it when a player gets greedy.After all are club done for him to

480 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:55 PM

I’ve got a poser for everyone, away from the stupid transfer talk.

QUESTION

Is it possible that Pardew was more correct than we gave him credit for all along?

We all moaned about our defensive style – however when we start playing real attacking football, we concede 10,000 goals.

Is it possible that Pardew just knew that our defense is not good enough, and needed a lot of protection?

481 SupaToonKid // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Great news on Debuchy, not so much on Ba but come on now Ashley show your grit and bring in Remy & Douglas. Cissé back in the CF spot & with the warm weather approaching I can sense atleast 15 from Papiss!

482 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Wrecker agreed, statistically he is up there but van pursie is the man of the moment.

Kevy I am just thankful that its not a team like qpr he is going to. Granted he is getting more money at Chelsea but at least he has a glance of winning something there.

483 check the toastie // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Danny Graham read Danny Simpson – championship player you chumps.

At last we are signing Debuchy, this must mean that Simpleson is on his way out, my prayers have been answered.

Thank you good lord.

484 hdavid23 // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM

supposedly Ba wants between 3-5 million pounds to sign for a team, so he’s price will be around 12 million pounds after all… simply disgusting

485 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Can someone explain to me what’s happening with Ba (supposedly)?

486 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Also it dosent have to remy who comes in I think he’s who most would like but I’d perfectly happy with Patrick audgymeng aswell similar in style to remy

487 check the toastie // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Actually pleased if this Ba situation is coming to a close, always going to happen, he has served us well, and his career is now over, enjoy your money greedy man, we have offered him a deal, he wants more, move on, another player just after the cash.

Remember Pedro coming back to Toon with a pay cut, those were the days. Farewell Ba, enjoy the bench.

488 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Ba is better than Aguero and Van Persie in the air and is also better at striking the ball from long distance, so he’s the better player. He is also probably the best striker in the world at the moment.

Abeid is quality. You said Marveaux was poor, but I was right. He’s been our best player for the last few games and is the best ball distributor in our squad.

489 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM

@ TDS

I don’t think so m8. If you look at all of the goals conceded in the last two games at least half of them were schoolboy errors like not looking along the line or having a throw in at the edge of our penalty box and throwing it straight to an Arsenal player. Against lesser teams playing like that we will concede 1 or 3 at the most, however it is another thing playing that style against the big boys

490 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Danny graham is leaving Swansea I’ve heard think he would b a great signing for toon proved at Swansea he’s prem standard

491 Spuggy // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

In the end Ba or Cisse have to go…

1) They are both no 9′s style players
2) They’re both africans and are lost to international duty for ACoN
3) They don’t play well together, never have, never will
4) Ba doesn’t want to stay
5) Cisse will regain his form of old once given a central berth
6) It free’s us up to buy a proper supporting creativel 2nd striker with pace
7) According to Pards we’ll bring two in so we’ll have a CB to boot!

492 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

check the toastie

Which top class striker do you think would be willing to come and warm the Newcastle bench and occasionally play cup games?

14 goals last season for a terrible Swansea side – how many did Ba get last season in the side that finished 5th?

493 Dannyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Dummet scores again.

494 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Check agree the sooner the ba thing is sorted the better

495 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Toondownsouth – I don’t think so no, we have been leaking goals all season from individual errors and it was more of the same at old Trafford and the emirates. A lot of the goals were down to individual defensive mistakes and man united out three past us at our place anyway so four at theres isnt bad for the style we played. Arsenal was more defensive errors as tired legs, 4:3 wouldn’t have been an issue it was the extra three goals

496 roshan MAGPIE // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I know ba is one quality forward we had since shearer but he is one of the most greedy player we had since Owen

497 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM

proud- Your doing a great job. Don’t listen to what there saying about you! People and our fans are always sceptical. The older ones have had a lifetime of support where they’ve been let down. Keep the signings coming they could be our life blood.

498 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Please ignore him… Pleeeeaaaase…

499 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:06 PM

roshan – show me a selfish striker and I’ll show you a good one!

500 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM

TDS Swansea create plenty of chances though

501 reccerobbo // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Glad Ba looks finally on his way Chelsea can have him! Don’t get me wrong he has been outstanding for us. But the clause in his contract is affecting every 1 at the club.
Can’t wait to see cisse play through the middle again and torment defences along with a strong left sided stricker/winger

502 SupaToonKid // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Aye davybtoon

Aubameyang would be a great alternative to Remy to play on the left hand side of our front 3.

503 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM

@ Ketsbaia – are you mental?!?!?!

Ba is better (at the moment) than Van Persie, Aguero, Falcao, David Villa, Lewandowski etc.?!?!?!?!?!

I used to think you were an utter moron, now I really do think you are a troll.

504 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Charlie Austin.

505 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Ian

That’s a difficult one though. For example, Ba is a very selfish striker,and has been scoring a fair few goals because of this. However, how many times have we had players in better positions and Ba has opted for glory?

In this case of course, Cisse is terribly out of form – but just because a player is banging in the goals doesn’t mean that it’s not at the detriment of the team.

Very few of Ba’s goals come as a result of selfish play – only missed opportunities and pot shorts from 40 yards.

506 SupaToonKid // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM

*sigh* Ketsbaia

Ba is good but RVP & Aguero are in a different class.

507 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Someone please explain what’s happening with ba?!?!?!
Kets – Ba best striker in the world? What about Messi, RVP, Aguero, Benzema, Ibrahimovic, Suarez (much as i hate to say it), Gomez etc. etc. The list goes on.

508 wreker16 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Kets

He is not the best in the world while falcao is in this form.
He’s not good at scoring from distance, he just likes shooting from miles out and constantly missing. Van persie is an all round better player, he scores more, sets more up and doesn’t waste the ball as much.

Falcao is just ridiculous at finishing and heading

509 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM

C’mon Ashley just sign Mario Gomez and Falcao already

510 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM

You guys are fu ck in g retarded ..were not talking about shitty andy carrol here were talking about na na na na na na naaa demba demba ba demba ba the main man ..Prob the second best striker in the league ..He has what? 45% of newcastles goals ..cisse is not as good as him people are just delusional on here..And another fact remy could not do what ba has done

511 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Newcastle should of stopped being tight and gave him the 4 or 5 mil for a new contract ffs after all he has done for us

512 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Last season Coloccini excelled in a good number of games. This season I can really only recall the Mackem game. He has had an indifferent season largely because he’s having to cover for the appalling slow witted technically poor Simpson and the sometimes shaky and technically poor Williamson. We really could do with a few
experienced PL defenders on loan to steady the back four. Simpson played as if she’ll shocked for the last 15 minutes and I would be delighted if he just doesn’t feature again.

513 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:17 PM

We are losing our best player in Ba. Chelsea gain, our loss. M.Ashey is really playing with fire again.

514 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Mike Ashley is not playing with fire – we have no choice if Ba wants to leave!

He’ll be playing with fire if we do not sign an attacking player.

I’d rather a wide forward than a CF though.

515 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:22 PM

TDS

Can Ashley not give him the money he wants?

516 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Falcao is the best striker in the world at the moment in my opinion. Ba is a close second. Ba is miles ahead of Van Persie.

When Pardew says ”we’ll sign two players if one leaves”, does that mean two players in the same position as we need at least 2/3 new strikers to come in?

517 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Transfer- just think for a moment of the number of instinctive goals Cisse has scored. If he gets the ball in the box he’ll. score. Consider the Obertan ball for Cisse’s goal against Man U. Ba is a workhorse creator of his own goals. I have always admired his endeavour and strength. He absolutely terrified the weak Arsenal CB. With Cabaye ,
HBA, Marveax and Obertan creating Cisse will be fine . I just want adequate ST support which excludes Shola. He never has a run before being injured.

518 Novocastrian66 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Ashley can’t do anything about the Ba situation. He cannot force him to sign any deal. Good look to him. He’ll be lucky to play a dozen games for Chelsea.

519 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:24 PM

But Ba ‘deserves’ to be on a par with other strikers of his quality – think how much Torres, Rooney, Tevez are on!

No way we can match that. Plus, if we give Ba 100k a week because he’s scored a few goals, what do we do about Ben Arfa and Cisse?

I also think Ba needs to be challenging for titles – he’s good enough. And let’s face it, we’re nowhere near that.

520 Strauss // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:24 PM

BA is good, one of the top in the premier but he has baggage, knee, ego, agents, contract etc, it appears that he is disrupting the harmony; just accept that he is using the club as a stepping stone.

Debuchy over Simmo any day

Perch and Willo are okay but no talent, talent is Santon and Collo.

521 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Tds – exactly it’s not our choice to sell ba we have no say in it, n ya right ba leaving means cisse through the middle so we need a wide forward not an out n out striker a remy or audgymeng n then a Danny graham to cover cisse

522 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Don’t rate Lewandowski at all. Hope we don’t bid for him.

523 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Kets

I’d take anything Pardew says with a pinch of salt.

And if you expect us to sign 4 or 5 players in January I fear you’ll be just as disappointed as in September.

524 Nufc-83 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Kets if your replying to me saying about marv then that’s bs I’ve wanted him in the side all season you clown.

525 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Fine, so you’ve changed your mind already.

As a counter, in my opinion Van Persie is miles ahead of Ba, far more clinical, better touch, technique, more intelligent player.

Utter Tw@t, but a brilliant striker.

Ba’s good, but he seems to be wanting to leave and unwilling to play left wing.

Out of the two I would rather have Cisse up front.

526 Graeme // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:29 PM

27 minutes gone QPR 0 – 3 Liverpoo

Looks like QPR are trying to make us feel better by conceding more than us. That’s nice of them lol

527 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Of course we won’t bid for him!! See this is why people call you deluded!!!

He plays for one of the top sides in europe, German champions, and would cost atleast 18/20m!

Of course we won’t bid for Robert Lewandowski.
Crikey.

528 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Don’t rate Lewandowski?

Erm…. yeah, and I don’t rate Messi

529 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Not Danny Graham, he’s not much better than Shola. Marc Antoine Fortune would be a good back-up option.

530 jplizardking // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:30 PM

If Ba goes… Papiss will become our main striker and he is a great player. Up to now he has a 1 goal per 2 game ratio and unfortunately he’s either been playing alongside Ba who is often greedy and a poor strike partner or out on the right wing this season. With Papiss playing down the middle as the main striker.. another centre half, Debuchy and Cabaye and Hatem back we will be ripping it up!

531 obatoyou // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Not sure Ba is as good as tevez aguero and Rooney, some of the posts on here , u hav to wonder whether they’re wind ups or other fans :s

532 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Ba is a lot better than Lewandowski as is Cisse. Lewandowski is overrated. I think Messi is one of the best players in the world. He is currently on a par with Ben Arfa. Marveaux has the potential to be better than both Ben Arfa and Messi.

533 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Ian what worries me is the chances like the one against man city where cisse turned his man and then blazed over when it looked harder to miss the target, same with his penalty early on. I do have faith though and the chances we created in the first 16/17 games were few and far between so hopefully we could provide better service for him.

One player in plus one for every player that leaves. If we sign Debuchy I hope it means we are releasing Simpson and Debuchy isn’t the extra one player. We need a centre back and and a striker even if ba doesn’t leave.

I would love to see us sign sissokko or diame as well but can’t see it unless tiote leaves. I’m sure we are still a very attractive club for French players with the current group we have their. Diame, centre back, striker and I would kiss mike Ashleys belly button

534 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:33 PM

obatoyou

I don’t think he’s as good a player, by any stretch, but he’s as good a goal scorer as a couple of them. His record playing as a CF for poor teams speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

535 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Any of you lot and good up front? We might need ya soon.

536 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Right, now you are just a troll, simple as, p!ss off, stop wasting your life trying to make people annoyed/ look stupid.

You are pathetic.

537 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:35 PM

I really hope that fans of other clubs don’t read this blog. They might mistake Kets for someone being serious

538 croftus5678 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM

erm ba is proven this and last that he’s a great goalscorer when played as a striker and cisse as much as i love him and think you are right that he will get a lot more goals without ba …i still think ba is a better striker and would/will score more than cisse.
to me ba has made us whatever transfer fee we get from him as he has payed us more than what we have payed him back just a shame as atm i would value him at a lot more than 7.5mil.
and we now need a new striker or 2 if he is gone and hope for a miracle that they can start scoring from the start as it normally takes a while for players to settle into the prem.
these new few month’s will tell if cisse is a better striker as fans have been saying when telling ba to play on the wing for reasons i still do not understand and if we do lose points through lack of goals i do hope fans who have been calling ba remember what they have said.

539 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:39 PM

whay i can gather on the ba situation is his greedy agents are targeting chelsea to try and get the best deal for themselves. has ba came out and said he wants to talk to Chelsea. NO his agents have what a surprise so i am taking this with a pinch of salt

540 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:39 PM

bank isn’t as good all round as those guys but he is a natural goal scorer. and if you’re not man city chelsea or man u then you won’t have superstars. that’s not what you need. you need the right players. so for us ba is better than aguero, van persie, falcao etc.

541 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

@kets

i used to think you were just a bit stupid

Now you must be a troll

Why do you do it? and why have you been doing it on this site for so long? Don’t you want to spread your wings a bit? or do you have different sites on the go?

Just curious about the ins and outs of a Troll and a good one at that

542 obatoyou // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Not really toondownsouth, tevez and van Persie have been top scorers in the premier league and by great margins at that, ba will go 10 games without scoring, we need a 50m striker man, we should buy van Persie and tevez

543 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

*ba. not bank

544 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM

@Pardews battlepan

Seriously?! come on, don’t agree with the troll

545 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:44 PM

You have to be seriously deluded, short sighted or bias to believe that Ba has anything on the likes of Aguero, Falcao, Van Persie, Rooney, Tevez etc

546 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM

@fray im not agreeing. i merely mean that we are not gonna have any of those players. so to us, in a way, ba is better.

547 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Looking at the upcoming fixtures of the clubs in the sh1tter then they’ve all got the top teams throughout January.
We’ve definitely got the most winnable games coming up.

BA deserves to go to a top club,he’s quality and to be honest(I’m gonna get bashed for this)we are not a top club.
We must be the best club for loyal supporters and we’ve had to put up with a lot,most players love playing here as we get behind the team and don’t expect to win the PL but eventually players want to play for honors and I don’t blame them.
RVP left a top team for a team that will compete every year.
If we were winning things r up challenging in the top 2/3 every season I don’t think we’d have a problem holding onto players even with a slightly smaller wage packet.
Lets get real,we ain’t a very decorated club.Weve won trophies a couple of generations ago,we were challenging for them in the 90′s but we’re a few players off that now.
The only problem for BA is that he could end up sittin on the bench and then you don’t feel that it’s you that’s competed for medals.
That’s the way it is for those at Manu and City so it seems if ya wanna win things then the squad has to be that good that the bench is good enough to be on any team and our bench certainly is not.
Rant over
Bye bye BA and welcome Debuchy,we hope you come to a team on the up and bring some friends from France

548 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:47 PM

@PPB

Well in that sense Williamson is better than Vidic, for us anyway

549 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:47 PM

@fray those guys are far better all round. you are correct. no argument there.

550 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:50 PM

nick- Cisse is pure class. With him it’s more a mental than physical issue. We’re Ba to go he will be more attuned to the team. It is a service issue. Against Chelsea ( we lost 2-0) Cisse missed a couple of good chances. Strikers do but he will get you a number of unexpected goals from better service home and away. I see us winning a number of games away in the second half of the season once the defence has been restructured . On Simpson I would prefer him gone as he is poor and would merely be blocking the progression of Tavernier. Williamson is fine as cover for a handful of PL games a season.

551 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Poor ED Just wrote this today

http://www.nufcblog.com/2012/12/29/this-is-why-demba-ba-could-stay-at-newcastle/

552 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Who has had a look at this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20871096

553 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Really? I thought ba was 2nd or 3rd top goal scorer so far

554 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM

I could be wrong but i really don’t think Ba is good enough to play at a real top tier club, he’s just a goalscorer and nothing much else, those clubs demand more, look at Owen at Real Madrid. I think a team like Liverpool would much more suit him if he was to leave.

555 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM

@fray. you just took my comment to the extreme.
ba scores. that’s all i was saying.
comparing Williamson to vidic in that way is saying that although hes not as good he gets the job done. and that’s not quite true. Taylor or Colo yeah. willo? no.

556 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:53 PM

A word from the gospel of Kets:

“Marveaux has the potential to be better than Messi”

Praise be to Kets
Amen.

557 TOONARMY4LIFE // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImBGpIsI_K0

LOOSING BA? cisse so much better ST anyway.. watch that for a cheeky reminder!

558 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Pardew should’ve played Marveaux from the start of the season. Gutierrez should have been dropped. Simpson and Willo should’ve also been dropped. That’s been our problem. Pardew has been unable to identify who is decent and who isn’t.

I would like to see us sack Pardew and sign a foreign manager. Their’s too many liabilities in our squad and they’re all English/Irish.

559 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

@fray 552. i agree. and that’s also what i mean. ba is good for us but they can do better.

560 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Marty-Toon – When your playing well it doesn’t matter. When your not it does. Let’s just sort out the defence and then we’ve got a chance.

561 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM

EDD DO A POLE WHO WANTS BA TO GO AND WHO TO STAY

562 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM

@PPB

Yeah i know what you mean, i was just being silly

563 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Would must sign Doumbia and Remy to replace Ba. Or, Remy and Zarate.

564 Indian Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Marveaux is good but he is no messi.

I dont agree with KETS on this and BA is not at all better than Lewandowski.

Sorry Kets Sir you got those 2 wrong, IMHO any way

565 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Kets – shut up.

That is all.

566 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM

@kets

why don’t you answer my questions about your trolling?

567 Rotonda heights // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM

If Ba goes to Chelsea and Cisse is restored to his right position, any replacement striker for Ba has to be able to play left in a front 3 or be happy to start from the bench to challenge Cisse for 1 central striking position.

It would be a very cute deal if we could get van Arnholt back as any part of a deal for Ba.

568 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Kets, how good is Paul Scharner….potentially?

569 ToonDownSouth // Dec 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM

kevy

Why? Why would he do that? Everyone wants Ba to stay, but it is beyond our control.

We can neither afford £100k a week, nor challenge for trophies on a regular basis.

570 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Fu c k this ba saga i don’t care anymore …Buzzing for debuchy though

571 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM

PPB. I see where your coming from . By the same token doesn’t. Ba appreciate that NUFC are just perfect for him. Mind you I would not blame him for looking for a big pay day. Although he’s a very proud man a I do not see him as a bench warmer.

572 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Kevy – sit down and be quiet please. It’s beyond the control of NUFC.

573 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Debuchy is gr8t news but tbf it would have been better if he had signed in the summer…..
Definitely need a CB possibly 2 as Collo has been poor since Liverfool and is not leading the line.
If Ba, goes we should sign Remy…..
———————Cisse————————–
—————-Hba——Marveaux———–
Obertan———————————-Remy
——————-Cabaye———————-
————–Tiote/Anita/Bigi/Perch————
Santon——Collo—–ANO———–Debuchy

574 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

sorry about previous post—3 at the back – Santon/ANO/Debuchy

575 jimiley // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Does Danny Simpson play for Arsenal???? He throws every ball to an Arsenal player and they usually score. Last season in their corner flag area when they scored in the last minute and again on Saturday. He cannot cross a ball but he is a master crosser in comparison to his throw ins. He throws like a babee.

576 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM

can anyone tell me why ba would go to chelsea. will he start every week??? no way. he will never start above TORRES. demba will not go to chelski even for all the money in the world to warm the bench. Its all about his agents wanting a massive pay day imo

577 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM

@spreadthetoon

We could definitely win the league playing 12 men

578 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Re bonjour.

Was happy this morning with the Debuchy’s news.

And now, Ba…

Well, it explain a couple of things:

1. The Debuchy’s deal is announced early “by an english source near of the file”.
Someone of NUFC surely. Who said it on purpose, probably after Lambias or even Ashley told him to do so in order to reduce the impact of the Ba’s news.

2. Cissé is still in the starting eleven in a role who do not fit him cause Pard anticipated the leave of Ba, and intended to show Cissé he’s trusting him.

579 GEORDIE69 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Ed—- Do a pole to see whether or not to ban Kets and section him. He must be taking the piss, surely?

580 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

fray
thought it was a good idea at the time….still is eh? LOL

581 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

That’s my opinion, but it is also a fact that Ba has a better scoring rate than Lewandowski.

Steve McManaman was right, Ba is the ultimate striker. He doesn’t have any flaws. Maybe he needs to improve his shooting with his left foot.

582 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:11 PM

@Kets

How much of life is taken up by trolling? are you addicted?

583 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Niafron debuchy deal was announced by a Lille based paper

584 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

If we announced Remy and Debuchy and sold Ba, I would feel fairly pleased, but this isn’t good enough.

We now need a target man and a Remy type player with pace.

And no, I’m not joking. I wasn’t joking about Marveaux and Abeid either. Marveaux is a cracking talent and it was evident yesterday.

585 Marty-Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Well of course Marveaux is better than Messi,he’s been chosen for worlds best player how many times??mmmmmmm,never
Messi has 80+ goals this season,Marveaux has 2 and if he hadn’t been injured maybe 8 at the most,very similar results.
No doubt he’s got technical ability with the brilliant pass for Ba’s goal but Messi does it every game.
We’ve got a great player on our hands along with Cabaye and Ben Arfa and at times Obertan actually shows he’s got it in him.
I think if we could get a good price for Tiote then we should sell,we were thinking he was worth 20mill last year,this year he looks like he’s worth 2million although we know he’s better as most of our players have underachieved this season.
Bigi looked great on the ball yesterday too so we’ve got someone that’s ready to step up.
We’d still need to replace him though with our thin squad
Think we could actually play Ben Arfa in the Suarez role,he’s as tricky and quick yet he’s planted out on the RW.

586 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

It’s finally happening….

After a year or so of flirting…

We’re finally getting a slice of Debuchy.

He’ll be climbing right aboard the dreamboat.

587 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Kets- he shields the ball better with his body than he does with a foot first touch.

588 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:14 PM

@spreathetoon

We need as many men as we can get on the field at the moment ha

But seriously i think your formation would only be viable againt poor teams, its far too attacking, replacing one of our CB’s with an AM

589 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:18 PM

jimiley. Simpson annoys me more than any player I can recall playing for the toon. I sometimes feel he’s taken a bribe to exercise the wrong option. His positional play is appalling and yesterday I thought Santon had taken a lesson in modelling himself n him. I can’t believe he’ll end up in the Premiership even with a soon to be relegated team.

590 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

fray
whilst devastated with the results of recent games…..having Cisse, Marveaux and HBA as counter attacking players all playing centrally makes me froth at the mouth…..its obvious we don’t do defense….so lets just play the way we play and not be moulded into something we are not. Besides HBA and Marv and not gr8t at tracking back. Our defensive problems have been too high a line with 3 at the back we avoid this along with a sweeper…..could even have Collo in front behind the back 3…..what ya reckon bout’ that eh?

591 jimiley // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Debuchy and a top centre half should have been bought in the summer to build on our success. That is what successful teams do. The purchase of Debuchy now proves that Ashley has no ambitions for this club. His ambition is not to get relegated. Anything beyond that is a bonus. He will buy this January (he quibbled over a few hundred grand in the summer!!!) so that we stay in the league. When we have a stable mid table team, we will be buying youngsters again.

592 tomellifred360 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Can’t believe the negative Ba comments. Where would we be this season without him? The Debuchey buy must be the first of three or four new signing.

593 fray bentos // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM

I think we should try and swap Abeid for someone like Bale, i know it sounds daft but Abeid isn’t playing enough and i hate to see a great talent wasted on the bench

594 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Krul

Debuchy Saylor Coloccini Santon

Anita Tiote

Ben Arfa Cabaye Marveaux

Cisse

That is a decent team, but we’ve got no decent strikers to bring on from the bench at the moment and we’ll need at least another 2 strikers signed if we want to play a 4-4-2 formation with one coming off the bench.

I will be satisfied if we bring in 1 centre back, 1 midfielder and 2 strikers.

595 croftus5678 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:21 PM

i say scupper sturridges deal with the puds and do an exchange if were gonna lose him

596 jimiley // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Ian Toon,
I cannot believe he has turned down 30k a week at the Toon. Even crazier that he was offered it. He should be playing for Hartlepool on 500 a week.

597 davybtoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Hang on surely debuchy signing shows Ashly does care about the club n has realised he made a major mistake in the summer by standing still, if he didnt care he would not b getting us quality like debuchy

598 Mister Tuff // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Ba s definitely out the door asap. previous quote from an insider at SJP suggested the dressing room were not happy that Ba had not supported Ashley etc:-
Full quote:-
” “There are people in the dressing room who believe Demba Ba has let Mike Ashley and Newcastle down after the way they helped resurrect his career. They’ve been kicked in the teeth.”
The quote is obviously (contents wise) an utter load of complete bollocks invented by an unscrupulous person at SJP to soften up the Geordie public to the possibility that Ba was leaving at it was his fault Reality was that we all new of the potential that Ba would be away. There was no need for this Machiavellian type amateur plot designed to discredit Ba. I wonder who was behind it – I know damn well who was behind it.
Apart from that – early purchase of Debuchy -10 out of 10.
Effect will be positive so as not to put off others who may be coming to SJP – if the French right back is going must be ok. Excellent.
Frightening downside strike pair of Shola and Cisse –must be the reason why they do not want Shola to go to ACON. Hopefully they will re-think this one.

599 wingspan // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:23 PM

The most amazing thing about Falcoa…………. is his missus.!!!

Watch and enjoy for a few mins and take your mind off Demba leaving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vT7pulJEWI

Incredible.

600 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:26 PM

If Ba does go then do we really expect Pards promise of one out / two in to be honoured ?

Ba is a very very good goalscorer (but he is not the Messiah Kets – your judgement is always wonky).
Chelski might be a bad move for him though in how they set out their side.

He does unbalance our attack despite his goal record. We want all our forwards to be a constant threat and have a better scoring total than we currently have.
Why do I get the uncomfortable feeling we’d have more goals if only he and Cisse had played off each other more?

With a winger/striker like Remy we’d get the balance back once Benny is fit again (though we do have cover here) If Remy goes to Gooners or Milan then we need another guy playing his style.

I bet we only get one forward in if Ba does go mind.

What’s all this Streete shouldn’t be anywhere near the bench quote ? What’s the background for that.
I thought he was injured anyway

601 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM

there is more BREAKING NEWS coming from my scource @ SJP

602 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Jimiley – he looked Ok in the Championship. That’s his level he’s started to day dream in our recent games and has gone missing in action. Getting Debuchy in would make Santon’s life easier as we will be able to switch play and become more of an offensive threat on both flanks. A Quality CB and the defence will be sorted.

603 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM

wingspan its official its not chelsea that want to sign falcao its john terry trying to push the deal through

604 darrenfletcher88 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Proudtobeageirdie what’s that??

605 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Niafron
Seems the spin of SJP never stops….wouldn’t be surprised if Ba is on the way out…..any news on other french league players?……..Yanga Mbwia/|Sissoko/Remy etc etc
Ba Humbug
Agreed, should defo be 1 out 2 in……our squad is thread bare!

606 jimiley // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Davy,
Ashley cares about staying in the league so he can get more wonga. No more than that. He could have bought Debuchy in the summer but would not pay a bit more. he is keen to do business now because the club is sliding into the relegation zone.

607 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM

ba- we could do with Cabaye, HBA and Anita weighing in with a few goals. The only quality yesterday I recall from Tiote was an excellent shot.

608 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Remember lads Santon ain’t the finished article either. He’ll continue to make mistakes – push players down the wrong channel and mishit clearances off the line for a while. I just hope he is still with us in his golden years cos he is class.
Ideally we need a CB/FB as well as a pure CB

609 croftus5678 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:34 PM

hmm reading the black and white of it is only ba’s agents meeting with chelsea and not demba ba !! how is it different than what his agents did at the begining of the season offering him to clubs ? there is a chance he could stay yet.

610 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Gonna have to change my moniker if Demba goes.

611 niafron // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:36 PM

@Davybtoon

Yes, i know, read what i wrote in this topic around 1PM.

The article of the newspaper say the source is english.

612 wingspan // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:36 PM

lol kevy i wouldnt blame him. What a woman!

613 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:36 PM

@ba humbug – from last summer I think like this: Pardew makes many statements/ promises. None of those are likely to ever come true.

614 Small World // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Demba Ba ==>
<== Darren Bent?

615 jimiley // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Ba is much better than Cisse. Cisse cannot hold the ball up at all and is purely a finisher. Ba can do the lot and is a better finisher as well.

616 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Davy one signing doesn’t change 5h1t. Not when one of our best performers is more than likely to leave in the next few days. I’ll judge the window at the end and then decide if the owner has realised his errors of shown some ambition. I certainly don’t feel positive about things right now but did before the Ba news. If we quickly replace him then that changes things but we desperately need that centre back. Thirty days to make amends and try and resuscitate this dead season

617 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:38 PM

darrenfletcher

Demba ba not going to chelsea. he only wants a move to PSG. Make what u want of it. Its his agents that are trying to do a deal with Chelsea not Demba………

618 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:38 PM

@Small world – Please, please, PLEASE NO.

619 breno95 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Where is Ed’s thread on the Debuchy story? Normally as soon as any name is linked he is there posting the news for comment.
As for the SSN sources we had apparently agreed a fee with Lille in the summer only for nothing to happen so I will wait until the formal press conference confirming the move.
As for Ba, nothing NUFC can do due to the clause so take the 5million. I would also sell Tiote to fund moves for Douglas, Pieters and Sissoko. All 3 are out of contract in the summer so fees would/should be low. As for a show of real intent and ambition by the owner then securing Sakho and Remy ( which would cost probably 10million each) in this window would be superb and give us real depth. I see alot are naming their starting 11 on here but also saying get rid of Willo and Simpson in this window. My concern with that view is when injury and suspensions kick in we are short on cover.
Here’s hoping our targets are coming and those I have named are on the list as then we would have a strong 11 and squad.

620 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:39 PM

If Ba leave I wont be happy but I’ll wish him well as its simply a part of football, but if he does leave and we dont replace him it’ll be yet another nail in the coffin, we simply can’t do what we did when Carroll left and leave it till the summer as in the position we are currently in it could be fatal

621 Robby Bobson // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Debuchy may not be the best defender around but his shear threat going forward will push other teams wingers and full backs back….and we dont have to watch simpsons pathetic attempts of attacking.

Remy replacing ba would be decent as we can have a front three of class players all in their favourite position.

A centre back with presence, a guy who dominates the space around him with shear athelticism is requiredand has been for the past 3 years.

622 AmeobiTheMackemSlayer // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

proudtobageordie

What might that be exactly?

623 Ian Toon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

croftus – See @ 308

624 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Okay I’m persuaded – we should sign Falcao’s missus as a No 69.

625 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:42 PM

AP mentioned Cabaye in a 4-4-2 and then stated that Marv could not play in that system. I absolutely think 100% that we need to sign another striker who will add competition to Ba/Cisse and can play it along the ground!……I think REMY is our very best choice

626 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Ba’s the best striker we’ve had since Bellamy. He must stay. Luuk De Jong would’ve been a decent replacement but he want to Borussia Moenchenbladbach.

627 Robby Bobson // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Spreadthetoon…..marveuax is a player for the final third…cabaye is an all rounderso im guessin he was referring to him through the middle not out wide.

628 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Be so funny if ba failed his medical

629 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Hearing D.Bent. No way lol. Tatal fabrication. Benteke and Remy would be good.

630 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Woohoo! one or two devastating stuffings and we are back to 600 plus posts! Happy days

C’mon, sing with me now…

Deeeeeeeebuchy! Debuchy!
He’s come in on a jet
Debuchy! Debuchy!
he ordered the vegetarian meal… oh hang on needs a tweak that one er…..

631 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM

its being said that Ba would be on a pay as you play deal at Chelski and seeing RDM was sacked for dropping Torres I can’t see Ba earning much

632 kevymartins // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Debuchy 27? check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathieu_Debuchy

633 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:48 PM

has anyone read post 615

DEMBA BA NOT GOING TO CHELSEA

634 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM

SpreadTT

When we signed Cabs there was a comment from AP that they’d discussed with Carr whether Yo would fit into a 4-4-2 as he’d played 4-3-3- all his career before signing him.
I can’t think why Marv couldn’t play in a 4-4-2.

635 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Robby
Not sure if we are crossing wires….I only see Marveaux as a central attacking midfielder….like HBA.
We definitely need to sign at least 1 new striker as there is not sufficient competition….don’t think the Ameobi’s really provide stern competition week in week out…. so Remy + 2 CBs and Debuchy confirmed and I’ll be a lot happier….with no loss of players….we need depth.

636 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Help me out with the maths here, If I add WUM + ITK I get proudtobeageordie. Is that correct?

637 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-striker-demba-ba-may-stay-1510833?

638 obatoyou // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

if ba moves to a ‘top tier’ club, he’ll be on the bench for a start, it would ruin his career. got 2 disagree wit u, as much as i love to idealise our players

639 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM

tsunki

help me out with that one you have lost me????????????????//

640 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I agree with that one. I’d like to see Benteke and Remy to replace Ba. Apparently Benitez knows nothing about Ba going to Chelsea.

641 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM

ba humbug
I get what your saying…..but again I think perhaps there is something there…..Marveaux is not a winger IMO but a CAM like HBA. I really hope that we sign Remy cos (1) Fast with lots of pace (2) gr8t passer of the ball which is what Cisse needs (3) Can play as a striker or out on the wings (4) 2 gr8t feet could be well suited to EPL and an ideal fit for our team!

642 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM

I dont think the striker situation is of any concern really. We seem to have a surplus of really good AM options which suit Cisse’s style (incisive passes, spotting his runs into space, feeding the ball into his run before going offside all that stuff) and allow for any one of them at any time to slot behind him as a secondary striker. Get that defence sorted! If Debs is here that ia a great start I tell you.

Farewell Mr Simpson, and thanks for the championship season.

643 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM

ketsbia9

cause he ain’t. greedy agents trying to sell him. iff demba dosn’t get his move to PSG he is staying till summer

644 Big Pappa Cissé // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:56 PM

@ Wingspan

God damn she fine

645 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

@637 – oh if only we could, if only we could.

New transfer window, new ITK’s.

646 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Oh the rumours have begun.

Its a risky business being itk, you usually get death threats if your wrong.

647 Gateshead-Mag // Dec 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

tsunki

bang on mate

648 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM

A right back who can cross & pass.
Woohoo !

Simpson to Barnet. #Itk

649 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:01 PM

After our defensive displays this season Ba leaving should be the least of our worries. With Cisse through the middle he will score the goals we need but without at least two top class defenders in through the door we could be in serious trouble.

650 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:01 PM

BelfastMagpie

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA simpson to Barnet haha

651 JackButler // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Barnet wouldn’t want Simpson, even they have standards

652 Jail for Ashley // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Which other club has a situation where the whole back four is virtually undroppable no matter how they play,a few people have picked up on Collo and Santons poor performances but no matter how they play they no they will feature in the next game,Im very happy about the Debuchy signing but that will probably mean a desperate effort to get rid of Simmo before he can leave for free in the summer leaving us back to square one.
Davyb
One player rumored to be signing and our leading scorer looking likely to be leaving and already you’re announcing how much Ashley cares about the club.

653 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

why is this blogg full of immature little pricks who think they know everything but know nowt

654 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Oi Belfast while you are on – I dont mind you calling me Skunki etc (oh ha ha) but just fyi if you do I only get comments directed to me by accident, a page search doesnt work.

Which brings me to the question about how I am supposed to have used my apparent OV powers to taint the nufcfans twitter thingy thang. I dont get it? Am I a pro-pardew happy clapper then?

655 Toon1978 // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:04 PM

proudtobageordie

Very judgemental lol. I hope you are right on Ba though

656 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Woah I think proudtobeanitk is new to the whole ‘source’ thing.

However we aren’t.

657 Kyo // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Kets

Ba best striker in the world? What are you talking about? Deary me.

658 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Sell collocini and bring boumsong back…

659 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM

@SpreadtheToon – This has been slightly annoying me for a while now, when you write “gr8t” why do you put in the ‘t’??

8 already has the ‘t’!!

660 Tsunki // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Kyo – to be fair to Ketsy his world is not that big.

661 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:08 PM

toon1978

U know im right tho lol. Ba defo not going to Chelsea. somewhere else possible but not chelsea

662 Cool Hand Luke // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Why is everyone on Colo’s back? Yes there have been a few shambolic displays but the same was true of last year when our first choice back four was broken up due to injury. Its noones fault in particular, we just need a few defenders in thats all.

663 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Lets hope so fella. Ideally I’d like to see us keep Ba and sign Remy, Debuchy, Toby A and Sissoko. If we lose Ba in the summer, we should go for Benteke because Villa are going down.

Villa, Reading and Soton will drop down. I’d also go in for Gaston Ramirez if Soton drop. QPR will start winning soon.

Also, I always said that Emerson Boyce was a decent player (much better than Simpson) and it showed last night on match of the day. Great player.

664 nick_9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM

A whopping 85,000 Ba wants, ridiculous money but by no means whopping in premier league standards. We paid Owen more and look what he did, Ba is proven so a bigger club should have no problem meeting 85k a week. I agree we need to be careful with pay rises. Last thing we need is other players demanding more, I do think we need financial incentives though for our good performers

665 davis_toons // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Cant believe we doesnt attack QPR like against MAN UTD & ASNAL

They are poor performing even thou they have some ok.. midfielder.

666 proudtobageordie // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:12 PM

tsunki

don’t thinkso. u don’t know me from adam. who i am or what i am. don’t believe in rumour mills just genuine facts

667 ba humbug // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM

SpreadTT

Yes he has said he prefers that role too as an inside forward CAM. He’d be fine for an occasional runout as a left winger mind – though dunno is he or Benny is bestest at tracking back .

I hope we sign Remy or equivalent style player regardless of Ba going. His advisers are real shit-stirrers and greedy with it. Could easily foul up any deal.

668 Cool Hand Luke // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Once we get a few good defenders we can build patiently from the back. Instead of teams knowing that they can pressurize some of our defenders into giving the ball away it will be a case of pass it abouth the back four/ midefield till the opposition get tired of chasing the ball and gaps appear.

That passage of play just before Tiotes shot yesterday is how I envision the team playing once the team is complete, its still a work in progress.

669 Ketsbaia9 // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Second best. I rate Falcao as the best at the moment.

670 davis_toons // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:15 PM

We need Andy Townsend as a club adviser…

671 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:16 PM

gonufc
apologies must be a dislexic thing with me!

672 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Cool hand luke – because everyone thinks that the sun shines out of his backside and he coudlnt do anything wrong, but fact is, hes been possibly our worst defender this season, been responsible for about half the goals weve conceded, looked old and slow having been given the run around by suarez, long, etc. He is supposed to be our captain, and ive seen nothing of him being a leader, infact quite the opposite, hes dissapeared when he should be out there organising the back four and driving the team on, on the downhiull slope, get rid in the summer. Need Taylor back desperately.

673 ONLINE GUY // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:19 PM

CONALDO @ 136

Your post at 136 is brilliant..I cant even bend because me stomach muscles are k-nackred with laughing. classic .! hhhhehehehehheeheeeheheheheehheheheehe !!!!!!

674 ONLINE GUY // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Where’s the Penguin? ..Hahhahahahaahahahhah !!!!

675 BelfastMagpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:22 PM

What did I actually say Skunki ? One to many beers yesterday, so it’s all a bit cloudy.

If it was something bad, Catchy made me do it.

676 Super Magpie // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM

If Ba does leave I wish him the best and thank for him for what he’s done here. He has an excellent goal to game ratio and we should never have put the clause in his contract. But, if he feels the need to move on then there isn’t much we can do to stop him ( or his agents).

On Debuchy, I won’t believe any of the news surrounding him until I see him standing at St James Park holding an NUFC shirt. It seems like we’re going in the right direction though.

677 Spreadthetoon // Dec 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Ba Humbug
I think agents overall add little value to clubs or players alike in general…..they are the vultures of football….and then when a player has more than one agent which IMO should not be allowed then you end up in a real mess. I do not think Remy will go to Chelsea…..possibly Arsenal but I do not see that they have a need. If Debuchy signs then things are not that bad on Tyneside and I think other quality french league players will come. As for Ba he has mentioned the Gunners and PSG…..Wenger said no…probably cos’ he got depth there…possibly in the summer but not now….again cannot see PSG coming in for him now…..especially when they know he is available in the summer. Think BA will see the season out with us….but I still want Remy to come to add competition which the Ameobi’s sadly do not offer on a weekly basis. If I was greedy I would say 2 strikers as we sold Best and released Lovenkrands but I think will have to wait till summer!

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