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Alan Pardew Job Safe – For Now

8:14 pm, Saturday, January 5th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 115 Comments

After the terrible performance this afternoon by Newcastle, on retrospect the side ill prepared for this game, and we didn’t look like a team through much of today’s game.

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Alan Pardew - must turn things around soon

And that does not reflect well on Alan Pardew and the coaches, but they will be given time to turn things around – but not too much time, and we would think Alan’s got to get Newcastle winning in the next six league games.

But when there’s just say 10 league games to go and we have our top players back playing ans we still cannot win then we don’t think Mike Ashley will stand idly by and watch Newcastle get relegated for the second time in four years.

We keep saying once we get players like Steven Taylor and Yohan Cabaye back we should be OK, and there’s a chance both could be back for the Norwich game as Alan Pardew said this after today’s dismal performance:

“Colo and Papiss missed out with knocks today, one had a slight hamstring and one had a slight thigh – you can’t take risks with them.” For Norwich though they should be OK. Hopefully Gutierrez will be back, maybe Cabaye, maybe Steven Taylor”.

So we do expect Mathieu Debuchy, Papiss Cisse, Fab Coloccini and Jonas Gutierrez to be back – with an outside chance that Steven Taylor and Yohan Cabaye could be back - although they could possible start on the bench at Carrow Road.

But another defeat at Norwich will have Ashley and LLambias at least start thinking about who may be available if Alan Pardew cannot get us out of this terrible slump we are in – and we’ve won two and lost eleven of our last 16 games in all competitions.

Roberto Di Matteo is probably a manager who could be tapped – but only after Alan is given time to turn this disaster around, and a reason for that is that Ashley and LLambias have to take some responsibility for not strengthening the squad last summer.

And we’re sure Ashley and LLambais would be loathe to change managers, because there is a huge cost that comes with that – as we saw when Freddy Shepherd was running the club for 10 years from 1997.

But Alan Pardew did himself no good today – with a shambolic performance from the Newcastle side.

What do you think?

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115 responses so far ↓

  • 1 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    tick tock….

  • 2 89Norcal // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Think you’re right Ed, questioning Pardew’s effort or desire to work with our younger players. Not like they’ve been sitting in the reserves much lately.

    Abeid though didn’t live up to the hype some have put on him.

    Having Hatem, Cabaye back and Jonas as a SUB would make a world of a difference. Sammy and Shane are not quite read to handle the EPL. Simmo as well as long as he doesn’t cross..

    Wish the Taylors were still with us.

  • 3 woodsee // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    of course his job is safe,even if we go down fatboy slim wont get rid

  • 4 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Forgot about Raylor – another ‘Championship’ quality player we could really have done with :)

    Abeid will never live up to the hype Ketsy has given him lol.

  • 5 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Don’t change horses in the middle of a stream

    (esp not Di Matteo)

  • 6 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    I am afraid that the spirit has gone
    Pardew has a massive job to turn it round
    I don’t think he can and the pragmatic Ashley will realise after a loss a Norwich and give him the bullet
    Who next is the question ,he Is a dead man walking

  • 7 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Tsunki

    Your going to get the reputation as the blog’s ‘voice of reason’ if you carry on like this.

  • 8 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    If Pardew got his marching orders and then told the press he never got the backing of his club owner, I think everyone would sympathise with him. I wouldnt like the run of events that he has had to manage, and I doubt even the best managers would either.

  • 9 northernirishtoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    He should be judged when all our players our back and the next two transfer windows.

  • 10 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    I dont want him out like, but it’s becoming like a broken record now. Going on and on about the injuries.

    Thank f*** he wasn’t in charge when Roeder was manager.

    That injury crisis was way worse than this one, in my opinion.

  • 11 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    You’re *

  • 12 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    davis_toons

    You ask many questions on the last thread. I like Football played on the deck, and i like wide me getting to the byline and whipping crosses in stretching the opponents defence. Atm we are not doing that. Do you expect Obertan who is average at best AND Sammy to do this? Sammy ain’t good enough and neither is Obertan. Our whole midfield has been ripped apart mann, No Tiote, Cabaye, HBA and dare i say it Jonas. We are relying on young kids who are not good enough and that is happening because we did not strenghten in the summer. How can we expect Pardew to drum into young kids who are not good enough or no ready yet to go out and beat an experienced CC side?

  • 13 toonking // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    what should alan do differant during the norwich game then?
    he is using this 4-2-3-1 you all want him to use
    Name me a CB who can replace willo that is not coming back from injury?
    what other striker do we have ATM not injured and unexperieced
    why should pardew force cambell to play just because he looks good in our heads when already this season we have seem that abeid, sammy and fergie are not what the heads imagined.
    the main things pardew has been at fault for is cisse out wide and subs being wrong time.
    the players on the pitch control their position. the players on the pitch are responsible for defending. the players on the pitch are responsible for creating chances not pardew.

  • 14 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    two steps – come gather round my children ha ha ha :)

    Actually northernirishtoon managed to say in one sentence what it took me about 20 posts :D

  • 15 check the toastie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    It doesnt matter who comes back into the side, or who we sign, we will play shite football as long as PArdumb is in charge, he has had numerous chances to change the way we approach games and hasnt.

    The whole team lacks any purpose.

    Total and utter incompetent shit. He should be replace immediately.

    A realistic appointment for Ashley could be Owen Coyle, give him a chance always tried to play good footy, just seemed to go a bit off the rails with Bolton, was once a super manager, and an honest bloke.

  • 16 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Seen plenty of fans moaning about the repetitive nature of comments on this blog. I’m tired of the repetitiveness nature of our performances and Pardews interviews.

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Christ Ed dont start banging on about Di Matteo!

    Tsunki
    Agreed genuinly think we’ve missed raylor as an option this season we’ve certainly missed his crossing and set piece abilities and deliveries from corners not to mention the fact that despite not being the best technical player you’d never see him walking around with his hands on his hips sulking like sone the lads we played today

  • 18 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Belfast – but I think that the reserve crop back then were a more workmanlike and utility bunch than our present day lot.

  • 19 darrenfletcher88 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Next 3 games,will make or break are great club, can’t stress how big them games are

  • 20 northernirishtoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Lol tsunki. Keep it short and sweet

  • 21 jimiley // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    10 defeats in 12 games. Instant sack. Simples. WHY is his job safe for now?

  • 22 check the toastie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    I repeat anybody up for Owen Coyle as manager, no pie in the sky appointment, available, an advocat of super pass and move football and seems to command instant respect off the players, perfect for me.

    OWEN COYLE FOR MANAGER.

  • 23 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    Toon king
    It makes no difference who plays and when the so called big names are back it will make little difference
    When a situation get as bad as this there is unfortunately only one answer ,it does not matter if it’s football or any other walk of life
    Change the leader
    The irony will be Chris hughton sinking the knife in

  • 24 89Norcal // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    Tsunki

    You’re right about our reserves back then. This current group can hardly handle the pace of the game in England. Too worried about fancy tricks instead of playing as a unit – Sammy being case in point.

  • 25 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    check

    Wasn’t his main weapon Kevnin Davies at Bolton..?

  • 26 toonking // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    out of the next 3 games i would say we can get 4 possibly 6 points
    stats say it all we have not once won away from home the weaker team most others don’t put enough effort into as i saw when city lost to sunderland chelsea lost to QPR and norwich beat manure
    so i think
    norwichA loss
    readingH win
    villa A draw maybe a win

  • 27 Toon73 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Would have been a lot better if Pards just came out said they meant to lose, just another Cup and a drain on our EPL relegation battle.
    Tired of his media statements, man up and just say you need players ffs !!

  • 28 Sir Braveheart // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    If he loses the next 2 we’ll be in the relegation zone. That’ll be the last straw and I think Ashley will get rid. Im confident he can turn it around though.

  • 29 check the toastie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    TDS – no, smart arse.

  • 30 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    For Norwich – evidently this has to be the strongest squad we can muster, cisse alone up front I am afraid, Marveaux just behind. Stuff it, if Jonas is ready he must play and I would like to see santon stay behind him and the half way. Tim kicking _ lose possession. Same with Willo. Pass the ball around from the back and if we get bogged down on one side, pass it back and round again but keep the damn thing rather than play into a corner and lose it. If we lose the ball press press press until we get it back, its knackering but it will teach you not to lose it again. Even if its a score draw its not a loss.

    Dont ask me what the solution is for the offside trap – a megaphone and a laser line?

  • 31 PortsladeToon // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    I went to the game today cos i live down here but I take my hat off to the TOON army that made the trip all the way down to be put through that dire performance, Really do think the club should refund every persons ticket that traveled down to be put through what I can describe as a complete disgrace.

    MA if you thought about trying to battle though and hope we have enough to stay in this league think again, if their is ever a time the club needs to spend money it’s NOW!! 3 to 4 players are needed urgently

  • 32 toonking // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    @yorkmag
    follow england better they went for big name managers yet have not reach world cup semis since robson
    real madrid are 3rd in la liga despite having the next manager that will likely be at manure and they have world class player like ronaldo
    chelsea have not managed to win a premier league title since sacking jose ok they might have won the CL but with what style, of course the hoofball sitting back style which you hate so dimateo would be no use.

  • 33 Sinner // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    Just read that Ben Arfa has returned to Clairefontaine to continue his rehabilitation and could be make his return at the end of February!Pretty sure Pardew said it was just a precautionary measure and that he would be out for 2-3 weeks, so that means he was lying!If thats true,im really disappointed!

  • 34 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    Tsunki

    im not asking for the best manager, or one of the best managers
    im asking for a manager who is more positive in his approach to a game
    a manager who knows how to talk to the press
    a manager who understands tactics
    a manager who isnt afraid of his boss, ( there has to be respect both ways)
    a manager who does whats best for the team, not just some players

    in all honesty. why do you think he got sacked at all his clubs so far?

    do you think having cabaye back will make a difference,, he was not good before he got injured, could take him weeks to get up to speed again, same with steve taylor,, last injury , he put on about 6 stone, looked like a tank running around,

    do you think the club is more stable now, 2 years after CH left it?
    back then all us fans complained about was DL/MA, now its the players the manager DL and MA,, how is this good for the club,,

  • 35 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    TDS
    No he was stuck with kevin davis until he bought his super CF david N’gog

  • 36 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    You mis understand me
    I don’t want dimataeo or coyl
    Gus poyet or Martinez for me

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Sinner
    No he said feb

  • 38 AndyMac // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    “Alan Pardew Job Safe – For Now”

    Ed I hate to say this but you’re swimming against the tide !

    He will be gone if Fatman wants to keep siphoning off the millions !

  • 39 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    check

    ….. smart arse?

    So when someone asks you a question, you respond with an apparently random insult?

    This blog appears to have been taken over by children, who would rather insult people over the internet than discuss things.

  • 40 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    I like and respect Owen Coyle and Martinez who would be on a short list if we are in the market for a new manager.
    Last time I wanted Jol, so maybe my judgement a little impaired there.
    Coyle was excellent especially at St Johnstone and then Burnley and Martinez is a good ball playing manager who manages to motivate players to recover from seemingly irrecoverable league positions in the run in.

    BUT…. would they want to come here ?
    Would they work with Batman and Robin?
    Would they work well with the players we’ve got?
    Could we afford them?
    Would we win anything with them?
    Wouldn’t we be opening the club up for another two years of getting ‘settled’ ?

    Don’t change horses on the middle of the stream.

    Judgement day for AP is the end of this season. If we are respectable then fine.
    I would say if we finish 16th or 17th – just winging it from relegation then he ought to go.

  • 41 soundoid // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    If Pardew stays (which I think he will) and we get relegated. What then?

  • 42 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Agree with you there tsunki.

    But the injury crisis was still worse. So I’m still right. ;)

  • 43 moonraker // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    That today was the worst performance I have ever seen from a Newcastle side in 50 years taking into account who we were playing!

    It was an eye opener which showed just how poor the squad is and if they are the future, then it aint in the PL.

    I have supported Pardew although not his predictable tactics. I reckon he has got 2 games to save his job because in the last 4 games we have conceded 15 goals and lost all of them; to make matters worse we have scored 7 so we should have got at least a couple of draws.

    Against Arsenal when Pardew had 4 strikers on at the end with virtually no midfield at the end and we conceded 3 more goals, he showed his limitations in my opinion.

    Even with the injuries we have, he has stuck with the same system meaning we have not even got draws which would have made all the difference to our league position.

    I hope the hiararchy are looking at potential managers as well as players, because sadly Pardew looks to be cracking up !

  • 44 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Catchy

    F off troll

  • 45 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    When Pards has his full strength squad out and his signings made and he is STILL losing games god forbid then i will surrendor to the fact that he is out of his depth. ATM, he is dealing with a depleted squad and relying on young kids to get us through matches atm. I will hold my judgement in the spring.

  • 46 Sinner // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    37toonarmydownsouth

    http://www.nufcblog.com/2012/12/16/ben-arfa-out-for-four-weeks-was-he-brought-back-too-soon/

    What Pardew said about his injury:

    “There is a danger he could tear that and if he did that he would be out for two or three months whereas if we do it the right way and be sensible about it, it may only be three weeks. And obviously that is the route we are going to take.”

  • 47 Slatymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    Any decent rumours today lads, from Proud, or anyone else for that matter? Pardew seen packing cardboard boxes into the boot of his car at St James? Owt! Regardless of accuracy I could do with some silver lining after that dismal display. Anything on the contingency in France? Helicopters? Batman? Commissioner Gorden? Owt!?

  • 48 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Saying his job his safe for now normally means he has one life left. Defeat at Norwich & he’s out. It will then be too late before the window shuts to appoint a successor & so no money will be spent . End of

  • 49 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    ole gunner solksjær for me

  • 50 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    1978
    It will be way too late then

  • 51 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    This disaster is partially of APs making. IMO unless we pick up serious points this month i.e. minimum of 6, then I think APs gotta go. Leave it any later than that then you don’t leave the incoming mgr anytime.

    Will probably have to stick with AP until the end of the season and hope we stay up, if we were gonna bail it should have been done before Christmas!

  • 52 Puppet Pardew // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Hi fans, PP again!

    Of course I’m not to blame, perish the thought – and thanks to Mr Ed and my many supporters here on this blog for backing me up! They know I only have a squad of highly paid professional footballers and coaches here at my disposal, how am I expected to manage on these meager resources against the likes of Brighton?

    As for tactics…? Don’t make me laugh, I haven’t time for all that malarkey, I leave that to others. John Carver knows one or two tactics, and Steve Stone was telling me something about 4 2 3 4 1 or something. To be honest I didn’t have time to listen to him as there’s other priorities such as press interviews and checking how much I still owe Mr Ashley and talking to agents and more press interviews; I’m knackered at the end of a day – then it’s off to the casino again or the singles bar.

    Another eight years of this, can’t wait, and I’m going to need another holiday soon anyway, ha ha. Still, look on the bright side no more FA Cup games to bother about, which has to be a good thing, eh fans? So, as planned, I’ll fit in that long weekend to Bognor during 4th round week.

    Till next game, fans…. your pal, PP

  • 53 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Catchy
    Good call

  • 54 toonking // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    martineze might look ok but
    would cabaye, HBA and cisse like to be in a team which has manager merry go round and would another manager who has arrive from relegation teams look like a manager that shows signs of top 6 finishes.
    look at blackburn they wanted the venkies puppet sacked ok he did get them relegated but rather than sack him before the next season they waited until mid way and now have had 3 in just one season.
    harry rednapp who got spurs to become a top 4 team can’t get QPR safe it is unlikely

  • 55 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    yorkymag

    EXACTLY, that is why i will hold my judgement. By then we could be sitting 8th or we could be sitting 18th. Pardew will have NO excuses then. We shoud have our signings bedded in by then or signing in Debuchy lol depends if we get anybody else in and we should have most of our players back. With a full strength team Pards has no excuses at all. ATM, he has.

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Sinner
    Aye but he gave an injury update around xmas and said benny was mid to late feb maybe he’s aggrivated the injury

  • 57 ash1001 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    For me Pardew can go now, OK there are players missing due to injuries, but most clubs have injuries. he once said he had the final say on player, well his assessing abilities are not that good if today’s performance is concerned.
    Certain players are never going to make it,they should be offloaded .
    Someone like Ray Wilkins should be brought in to get tactics sorted out. It’s 257 since we last scored from a corner.
    New fitness coaches should be appointed.
    Am sure that he has just about lost the dressing room.
    Many have called for Tiote and Jonas to be dropped so let’s forget about then, that leaves Dreamboat, Saylor, & HBA have been missing over the last few weeks. Would those 3 have made a. difference, possibly but to what extent, who knows, but Pardew is hanging his hat on that.
    For me he can go now, sooner the better. Finally he knew Ba was going so a replacement should have been there Jan 1st

  • 58 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    NorwichvNewcastle draw if lucky

    NewcastlevReading should win

    Aston VillavNewcastle draw if lucky

    NewcastlevChelsea lose

  • 59 check the toastie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    TDS – admit it , you were just being a clever tit with your comment, Coyle has always tried and played good on the deck football.

    Everybody with a brain knows that, its why Wenger used to loan him players like Wilshere, however you imply that he just hoofs it forward to Davies as his tactic, you are insepid in your views, the role at our football manager is to get our world class players to perform to their maximum.

    Pardew drags them down to levels they didnt know they had, Cabaye is unrecognisable from the footballer who is superb for France, and as for Cisse playing Right Wing with f##king Shola playing as the main man, this is F##king beyond stupid.

    For f##k sake man wake up before we are gone into the championship and all our great players are activating release clauses.

    Stand by and do nothing is obviously your motto in life.

  • 60 Luke-A-Like // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Give Pardew a few more games, he has been relying on young players who for some wouldnt have been played for another 2-3 years with a bigger squad….

    What will be our midfield for Norwich if Cabaye is not back? We only have 1 striker in Cisse and so will be forced to play some sort of 4-5-1 or 4-3-3, but we only have 4 decent midfielders? Bigi, Jonas, Marveaux and Anita…cant think of anyone else with Tiote at the ACN and Ben Arfa injured

  • 61 King Arfa // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    least 1 positive is iv heard hes playing cisse up top where he belongs at norwich and debuchy may make his debut all is not lost if we go on a run ov games now all will ALMOST be forgotten lol i just wonder now if any potential targets we have after recent events may change there minds we got debuchy purely down to the fact cabaye plays here defeat at norwich and i fear where doomed and cant see pardew gettin the sack will cashley really pay off his 8 year contract?? i suspect not!

  • 62 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    I just wrote a fcuking massive post that took me over an hour to write after compiling all the info and opinion and it has disappeared after I posted it, devastated.

    I basically wrote every competitive performance from 2011-12 & 2012-13 to show how we have performed under Pardew (I refuse to do anything during 2010-11 as that was Hoots team & dressing room).

    My findings concluded that under him we score and defend or concede and become bereft of belief and creativity. We are going nowhere fast and if we stay up we should sack him.

    My conclusion included:

    2011-12:

    Awful – Poor Performances – 30/43
    Average – Good Performances – 7/43
    Very Good – Excellent – 6/43

    2012-13:

    Awful – Poor Performances – 20/31
    Average – Good Performances – 10/31
    Very Good – Excellent – 1/31

    Total:

    Awful – Poor Performances – 50/74 – 67%
    Average – Good Performances – 17/74 – 22.5%
    Very Good – Excellent – 7/74 – 10.5 %

    If you do not believe me check back over the results, remember the performances and disagree.

  • 63 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Portslade
    Posters are probably getting fcuked off with me re posting this but be intresting to hear the views of someone else at the game like
    Sorry lads another repost :(

    22toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Well just got back from the game and have to say
    What an absolute shower of sh1t
    Did the lads remember they had a game today?
    Because only 2 or 3 of them looked like they could be bothered today an absolutly disgraceful gutless display that they should be fcuking ashamed of from the manager/coaches down to the players

    Elliot
    Decent game made some good stops but didnt have a chance with defence he had infront of him

    Tavernier
    Shouldn’t of been on the pitch no tactical awarness no positional sense constantly got done for pace by wayne bridge ffs, took forever to get back when our play broke down and has no first touch

    Willo
    Was shocking today nothing more to say really need a CB ASAP!

    Perchinio
    Done well cleared a looping header of the line rarely paniced took a very hard challenge and struggled after that

    Santon
    Didnt turn up today gave the ball away cheaply and didnt cover the flank with any sort of conviction

    Abied
    Awful truly awful no first touch and bottled every 50/50

    Bigi
    Paniced on the ball alot today and seemed to run himself into trouble but did ok

    Anita
    Felt gutted for this lad, ran his ars3 off today won everything broke play made challenges looked to make things happen but with the rest of the squad as static as subuteo figures it was a losing battle for the lad

    Obertan
    Made so many runs up the line only for tav to aimlessly punt the ball to nowhere
    A few good runs got stuck in first half faded in the second a bit but the crowd were clearly p1ssed at him being taken off instead of sammy

    Sammy
    Shocking today unbelivably lazy cant pass cant run with the ball looked to scared to shoot got knocked off the ball with no fight just kept falling over and looking for free kicks and had no first touch at all

    Shola
    Red card was harsh but tbh didnt even notice he was off the pitch
    He wasn’t up for it today at all applied no presure won no ariel battles and generally couldnt be ars3d to run

    Ranger
    Fair play to him came on and looked bright looked like he had a point to prove as he left the pitch at full time in a barny with sammy

    Marv
    Great player should of come 15 mins earlier in fact no should of started infront of abied

    Dummett
    The ONLY positive from this game he worked his socks off won nearly everything had great pace put in some tasty challenges busted a nut to get forward and support but a couple of cracking fizzing crosses in and alaways got back quickly when we didnt have the ball and should be above fergie in regards to the LB position
    He had a great game and should of started instead of tav

    Pardew
    No ifs or buts today im affraid AP you got it wrong
    Subs at the wrong time made the wrong man captain and put the wrong starting 11 out

    All in all a gutting day and possibly the most subdued away stand ive ever been in, the travelling fans but a great effort in today but its hard to cheer for the sh1te that was served up today

    Oh and that ref was a reet pr1ck

  • 64 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    I don’t buy that
    There have been loads of opportunity recently to show more nouse
    We’d night why go with Cisse on the right
    Why go with perch at full bak
    Why playan out of form tiotie
    Why make the sushi did
    And that’s only one game
    He has lost the plot I am affraid

  • 65 89Norcal // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    ash1001

    we’ve had the most injuries in the premier league, and certainly most to starting players.

    Pardew doesn’t pull the cash out of his ass to buy players, it’s a collective effort from various personnel when you acquire a player.

    That said this game really put Pardew on borrowed time. Even though I figured brighton would win it was an awful display

  • 66 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    He has to stick with him for me but will sack him if it he sees it as a way to blame Puppet rather than himself for not coming up with the cash. Sack him if we go down as the team left will be much as fielded today. Not even good enough to beat an average Championship side. We certainly won’t bounce straight back as previously

  • 67 karasu // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Dreaming of the day where the unholy trinity of MADLAP get out of NUFC and we finally get our club back.

  • 68 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    You certainly wouldn’t sack him during a transfer window when you badly need new players like.

    If they were actually thinking about it a few weeks ago, it should of been done there & then.

    It’s to late now in my opinion. Hopefully we just ride it out & stay up.

  • 69 Premiership Manager // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Lets get this in perspective. We have several key players out, however it’s not as if this is new or something that Newcastle have to contend with each and every season.

    We sold Routledge for next to nothing and he is now emerging as one of the best attacking midfielders in the league.

    We have no width, no natural wingers and have known for at least 3 seasons that our defence is weak and needs to be sorted out.

    The squad is thin and lacking in depth with established players.

    Newcastle this season have played more long ball than any other team in the league and have one of the worst passing and ball retention stats.

    There is no heart and no leadership on the pitch.

    The manager is quickly loosing the dressing room and our second striker is Shola Aemobi.

    To cap it all off we are in a relegation fight without the likes of Joey Barton or Kevin Nolan to fight and lead on the pitch.

    The manager keeps on getting his tactics wrong and is not getting the financial backing and support of the board.

    If it is a board issue then Pardue needs to come clean, do the decent thing and give the board an ultimatum.

    If not the board need to do the right thing and appoint a new manager and give him the financial backing to keep the team up.

    I cannot remember being this disillusioned with the club, even when we got relegated.

    It’s a mess and it needs to be sorted out.

  • 70 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Dear Mr Ashley,

    Hope you read this Blog & do all in your power to spend wisely in an attempt to save this great club whose supporters are second to none & deserve better!!!!

  • 71 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    I admit i am confused as to why Pardew played Cisse out wide against Everton.

  • 72 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    toonking

    He turned down the bindippers I think and it was him not Brendan who got the Swans into their style of play. However it took him several years to do that.

    Any new manager might get the bounce effect over the first few games which would help but then brendan certainly didn’t and neither has floppychops had instant success despite the signings made in the summer. Okay they did well at the Bridge but that was not game 1.

    So no guarantees with any replacement (Shearer a case in point and if he couldn’t get a bounce or motivate the players then who could? )

    So why change manager now ? It is a very high risk call and most of the arguments are in favour of giving AP the chance to prove he can get results from a top 6 side of starting players (which we have) and replace Willo asap, now we have Debuchy to replace Simmo

    Also we need a motivator on the pitch big time, we really do. Preferably multilingual.

  • 73 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    But
    Very few in the ame have any respect for pardew
    Debucey only signed because of cabs
    Read the telegraph today for what Ba really thought

  • 74 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Belfast
    Aye you cant sack your manager in the middle of a transfer you either do it a month before or wait to see if with the signings he’s made he can turn it around

  • 75 Billythefish // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    These injuries might be keeping the man in a job, when the players start coming back Pardew will have nowhere to hide if results don’t pick up.
    Personally speaking I would like him to do well, its our club so we all want the same. Success and ambition, something which has been in short supply since the summer. (Or since Ashley)

  • 76 Novocastrian66 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    We were rubbish today, having said that I did not expect much. Pleased that Shola is suspended next week because he is a sad excuse of a footballer. His sending off was a joke though.

  • 77 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Big al was the best
    But never a manager in a million years
    It’s wrong to suggest if could no …no on can
    Gus poyet come on down

  • 78 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Does AP understands that if we let in goals, not matter how many we score, it will not be enough to cover what we concede.

    CD is Immanent. We can play like STOKE. It doesnt matter what kind of football now, Get a CD in. We will draw the rest of the matches and stay in the leg.

    We are no danger at set-pieces at all. Teams can easily counter us. AP need to know that CD is important.

    MA was asking why AP did not get in a CD last season. AP does not think it was needed, even now he feels its was not needed.

    Our defender is not a FULLY equip defender.
    One turns its back on the ball (Colo)
    One afraid of the ball (Williamson)
    One lack of height/ often injure (Staylor)

    What we left with was not even a proper CD, a make -shift one,

  • 79 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    However we feel about Shola and loyalty and being a Mackem Slayer he is a squad player and should not start a game. But we do not have a Ba replacement yet.

    So I have to agree with you Novo, as it will make AP rethink – and he does need to rethink his whole strategy.

  • 80 Mister Tuff // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    slatymag @47 don’t know what all this means but I heard through a mate via a text that about 3pm today there was a bit of disorder near the shops at Ponteland. A bloke with spikey hair was chasing another bloke, who had a trimmed beard. The bloke with the spikey hair continued to shout at the other bloke “Mais Johan je pensais que tu etais mon ami salaud”
    I’ve got no idea what this means and I’m not claiming any scoops.

  • 81 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    suppose people gonna say it was our reserve team against Man U and Arsenal.
    By giving AP more time you set the pendulum….IMO if AP is to be sacked it should be now…..if not then we will have to put up and shut up for the rest of the season and hope for the best! I think bringing in another manager in a month’s time will be too late. IMO I see no reason for AP not to get between 6-9pts in the next 3…..even with our depleted squad…..if he cannot then he does not deserve to manage the club.

  • 82 magillc // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Can’t quite believe people are talking about dismissing Pardew, after what he did last season alone, yes this season we aren’t doing well at all but look at the obstacles we’ve had, injuries to our key players, players not in form and a hell of a lot more games with Europa league; we shouldn’t be too hasty, judge when we at least have a couple of those key players back.

    He’s on for 8 years anyway, no way Ashley will pay the huge payoff fee, Pardew is a good manager, we’re lucky to have him.

  • 83 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Yeah it’s to late now like.
    Even if we sign a few players in the window & sack Pardew the following month. What do the new players think ?

    I actually think there may be an issue between the players & Ashley/Llambias and that could be the reason why so many players have been playing crap this season.

    Or I could just be a paranoid kernt. ;)

  • 84 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    check

    Wrong, wrong, wrong.

    If you actually read any posts on this blog, rather than just posting the same stuff every day and ignoring everything else, you’d see that I am far from happy with Pardew this season. If there was an alternative that I believed was a viable option I’d have him gone in a second. I hate him as a person, and his style of football is far from what I enjoy. Actually have a look at some of my posts if you really need to.

    Honestly, you write a bloody great big post and it’s all for nothing. What a waste of a valuable few minutes of your life.

    However, “Stand by and do nothing is obviously your motto in life” is my motto?

    If that’s mine, I assume yours would be something along the lines of “Sit on an internet blog and moan all day”. You’re hardly an activist are you?

    As for me insinuating that Bolton ‘hoof it up to Kevin Davies’, that is what I was implying yes. I understand he encourages passing football, but he also has a history of lumpy #9′s. I think he suffers from the same problem as Pardew – a lack of creativity in his ideas, which translates in his teams. We pass the ball about a lot, however when passing the ball around midfield fails to open anything up Pardew resorts to Shola-ball.

  • 85 DanRo // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    I think it is futile to discuss other options. The only people who will know when/if Pardew goes is the board. I personally think that Pardew isn’t going anywhere and i’ll repeat again – changing your manager regularly does not work unless your Chelsea/Man City with unlimited funds. I think Luke Edwards of the telegraph is correct – lets see where we’re at after the next three games and if the results are poor we shall should see if the board will act or not.

  • 86 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    I wonder what kind of reception Ba will get in a few weeks time when he’s back at SJP. I know i’ll applaud him.

  • 87 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Two steps
    A problem
    Pardew can’t think
    Last season he got lucky and did not need to pick a team fo 15 games
    This season he needs to think
    Problem

  • 88 King Arfa // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    i think today proved sammy cant do a job for us along with abied both where shocking today and dont deserve to wear the shirt based on that performance alone! with only 1 real striker (due to pardews reluctancy to play young adam) i really do expect us to make waves in terms of bringing in a striker in time to play norwich anything less will be unacceptable in my eyes

  • 89 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    I’m not sure what I’m walking in to here, but Belfast seems to be trying to reason and that scares me a little.

    Real cr*ppy game today. No leadership on the field at all and they all looked terrified at kick off. After a while they did seem to pick up, but then I left for about 5 minutes and they had scored. Seemed to take the little belief we had garnered up and throw it away.

    At the end of the day, I didn’t expect a result today. If we had started with more main players I would have been furious. Yes I’d love to have the FA Cup to look forward to, given this season isn’t going to be a fruitful one even if we do improve. Our number one objective right now needs to be that we ensure we’re not fighting relegation at seasons end. We need to steer clear of it now, give us some space so they can all get their heads in gear.

    No one really gets and special mention. Abeid was pretty uninspiring, but it was one game so not fair to judge.

    I was asked by a family member today when do I think Pardew would be fired (not when i would, but when I thought Ashley might)? I said I think the board know this isn’t all down to Pardew. They know he asked for more players in the summer. Pardew would be a hero to have matched last seasons efforts with all the stuff that’s been going on, but just because he hasn’t doesn’t make him public enemy number 1. I hope we’ll get in some more players, if we don’t I don’t believe for one second it will be with Pardews blessing, no matter what he says to the press.

    Right my internet is being a nightmare, so I’m going to submit this otherwise I may end up smashing something….

  • 90 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Arfa
    Prepare to be disappointed

  • 91 Spuggy // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Dembabafoot: “Could hardly go any better. So happy to play in this club with world class players

  • 92 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    yorky

    My point is that if Big Al who’d bleed black and white couldn’t motivate the side then no incoming manager is going to get enough of a bounce.

    Why are people calling for Poyet or – even more weirdly – Solskjaer. These guys would be massive risks with no track records worth the gamble as they only have minor league achievements

  • 93 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Pardew should have gone after the Stoke game or certainly after the Fulham one.

    We have made our own bed and must put our faith in our players or our incompetent manager will take us down.

  • 94 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    LYF
    Was gutted to see him bang in 2 goals today reckon he’ll be a big player for chelsea there were some saying so what he scored 2 tap ins he wont get in the team….
    Personally i’d clap him for a great 18 months in which he was vital in rocketing up the table

  • 95 TorqToon // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    TADS – Gotta be honest mate! Think you are spot on.

    Sammy just embarrassed himself and the club today! Said it before – needs to be loaned out somewhere to learn how to work properly. Lazy, clumsy and I don’t get the hype surrounding him.

    Dummett was superb ! A glimmer if light from an awful performance!

    On Pards – I don’t think he will get the boot this season, I think / hope with investment he will turn this around and maintain our top flight status. Whether he will be the man to take us on to the next stage NEXT season – I’m not sure.

  • 96 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Two steps
    But Alan has not an ounce of managerial skill you only have to watch motd
    Why should he have been expected to get bounce
    Poyet isthe futur ,it ouropporunit to be ahead of the ame

  • 97 1892 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Any itk`s around with inside information about incoming players? We need something else to think about, desperatly!

  • 98 King Arfa // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    yorkymag

    iv got my 9mm standing by mate

  • 99 Shedzzzaa // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    This post is ridiculous. Hate it when going gets tough it’s always get rid of the manager. Why? Who we going to get to replace him? Can’t believe you put di matteo in same sentence as us, never would that happen!!!

  • 100 Novocastrian66 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    What we saw today was what we will be left with if we get relegated. Not very pleasant. I have not slagged Ashley before, ever, but the club has definitely gone backwards in his stewardship.
    When we last got relegated the squad was far stronger than the current one.
    If / when we get relegated our top players will be off; Krul, Cabaye, Debuchy, Santon, Cisse, Tiote, will be gone. Possibly followed by; Collocini, Marveuax, Obertan, Jonas. What price loyalty? Not what we’re prepared to pay.
    The future is bleak. The future is black and white.

  • 101 DanRo // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Sheddza – couldn’t agree more. Going gets tough and people look for easy option. Managers who work with clubs long enough achieve more success.

  • 102 ash1001 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    Norcal @ 65

    I accept we have had injuries but even with everyone fully fit and playing we were not doing exactly brilliantly

    NEWCASTLE UNITED
    P Cisse Knock 12th Jan 13
    F Coloccini Knock 12th Jan 13
    D Simpson Broken Toe 19th Jan 13
    J Gutierrez Knee Injury 12th Jan 13
    H Ben Arfa Hamstring Injury 2nd Feb 13
    S Taylor Hamstring Injury 12th Jan 13
    Y Cabaye Groin/Pelvis Injury 12th Jan 13
    D Gosling Knee Injury no return date
    H Vu?ki? ACL Knee Injury May 13
    R Taylor ACL Knee Injury Mar 13

    Tactics, Fitness, Team Spirit, all seem to be very poor, will not even mention Pardews Substitutions – faults with everything.

  • 103 TorqToon // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    1892 – I think I got called an ITK a whole back as I work closely with the some of the medical teams in Ligue 1, 2 and a handful of top flight English clubs. However I WISH I was ITK! :-)

    All I will say is I’m in France now and everybody is very hush hush about the possibility of an NUFC contingent being in the country. Normally everything is so open around here. But it’s all a bit cloak and dagger.

  • 104 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Torq
    Because they are not there

  • 105 ITUNDERASHELL // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Calm down, Pardew and more importantly Ashley know the problems which have largely been created by themselves and are busy rectifying them.
    We have Debuchy through the door with Remy, Shako and Sissoko strong candidates to follow in this window so wait until the end of the window and then judge Pardew by his team selection, formation, tactics and results.
    We could have half the French international team on our books by 1st Feb and if that’s the case we could be on the cusp of a great era , so give the club a chance to sort out it’s real ambitions and direction.

  • 106 1892 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Torq, you`ve got to do better than that. Like when did we start bying players from the french league??! :)
    Ahhh….looks like we`ve moved on to the next post…

  • 107 Slatymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    @Mister Tuff

    Uh oh, trouble in dreamboat-land. I guess Monsieur C was making a lot of big claims he couldn’t back up. Maybe it’s time for a nice back rub for Monsieur D!?

  • 108 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    And the Mackems might win the champions leagu
    Nt a chance
    Remy will go to qpr

  • 109 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Shedzaa do you believe di matteo is to good for us? If so that’s bs i think he would jump at the chance we have a quality team when all fit just need some extra bodies in and a decent manager at the helm

  • 110 wynsleap // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    If that was the future of Newcastle United we saw out on that pitch today we haven’t got one.
    Lazy ‘footballers’ who can’t even do the basics, players who look as if they’ve never been coached to pass, tackle, cover, run or move with the ball and make space, a manager who obviously has no plan B let alone plan C and coaches who must be playing cards during the daytime sessions.
    Throw in an owner who doesn’t give a toss about the club he runs and an MD without an ounce of integrity or breeding and we have one unholy MESS.
    Forget the Ameobis – how dare the commentator mention them in the same breath as the Robledo brothers?
    Neither of them have a clue as to what makes a top performer. Abeid, Williamson and Obertan – clueless and classless.
    Only one player today looked as if he had a grasp of the game and I felt truly sorry for him. That was Anita. Unfortunately the biggest diamond will end up looking like a piece of coal on this slagheap.
    Pardew out? I don’t think we’ll have long to wait actually
    as our one brain cell, tight overlord will sack him to deflect away from his own shortcomings.

  • 111 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Hope you are right Itunderashell. The club had no asperations in League Cup & Fa Cup, hence team selection today but what a great oppotunity to give starts to Fergie, Street & Adam Campbell. Sammy, Abeid, Tavernier & Dummett not ready & may never be. Feel only Bigi & Fergie worth bench spots. At Norwich would play Marvaux just behind Cisse. Midfield 4 of Anita, Cabaye, Perch, Gutierrez. Back 4 of Debuchy,Santon Colo & new CB but fear it will be Big Jessie. That leaves bench of Fergie,Bigi, Hopefully Saylor (if not Streete) , Obertan , Ranger(or Campbell) Elliott but bench not good enough without Simmo, HBA & Raylor. Need Scouts & Board to deliver or could be down with defeats at Villa (again) & Wigan. Massive month ahead

  • 112 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Can’t disagree with anything Wynsleap but if we go down that will be the look of what will be left. Not even good enough to compete with a very mediocre Championship side. If Ma doesn’t spend then he will sack his Puppet to deflect the flac but may as well perseverve to end of season as will not be able to get replacement in before window shuts.

  • 113 AndyMac // Jan 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    two steps forward one step back

    Catchy in Norway makes some good points yet you brand him a troll ?

    You know very little about football and even less about blog etiquette. Stop the name calling !

  • 114 AwToonnufc // Jan 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Personally i am not calling for Pardew’s head just yet, But that comment about Gutierrez has worried me, if he starts Gutierrez over Marveaux when Guit is fit again. I’ll be fuming and be happy to give him the boot.
    I don’t understand the majority of his tactics but I don’t think him being sacked is what the team needs at the minute, But there is only so much shit you can take.

  • 115 banjax // Jan 5, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    What manager of any standing would want to work for the Cut Price crew in charge of the Toon ? Anyway, who says Pardew fears the sack, he may well walk like Keegan did.




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