We wondered what Newcastle boss Alan Pardew would say after today’s game, after a gutless performance got us another well deserved defeat – this time at Brighton – who for the second year in a row have knocked Newcastle out of the FA Cup, and we couldn’t even score one goal in those two games.
Orlandi scores first Brighton goal
We were missing a stack of our best players today, but still this was an insipid performance from a Newcastle side, who didn’t have any zip at all throughout the game, and if these are the players coming through at the club, the future does not look good.
This is what Alan said after the game today:
“We know we need to get some bigger players who can handle the situation of carrying a Newcastle jersey, whether that’s a signing or getting a player back from injury.”
“We are missing too many of our top players. The season we’re having we just need to get our best players back.” “We need to sustain ourselves in that and make sure we are a Premier League team next season.
That may have been the worst display of the season, which is quickly disintegrating into a battle about how we can survive in the Premier League this season.
And if this is the side we will put out in the Europa League next month, we far better just call in the result and not bother turning up,
This is now a very serious situation at the club, if we didn’t already know that before this game.
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1 geordieracer1980 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM
we’re shite
2 geordieracer1980 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM
and we’re going down!
3 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM
WE NEED A BIGGER MANAGER TOO U TWAT!
4 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM
PARDWHO OUT!
5 geordieracer1980 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM
who’s a twat?
6 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Would rather have Steve kean
7 Ewokshatemackems // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Less games for us to play anyway. Heart breaking that I’m thinking that but it’s the reality of our situation
8 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM
(Repost)…mattyNUFC
I do think Pards is making excuse after excuse regarding transfers mate. I do not blame him 100% for our slump atm though. I believe it is the blame of them at the top for not bringing in more players and relying on kids to do a job.
9 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Alan is the damn twat
10 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Newcastle boss Alan Pardew has hinted he might make further moves in the transfer window to strengthen his injury-hit squad after the Magpies were dumped out of the FA Cup by Brighton. He said: “We know we need to get some bigger players who can handle the situation of carrying a Newcastle jersey, whether that’s a signing or getting a player back from injury.”
11 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Ed,
Can we please have a poll on weather or not to sack pardew, and the readers can comment on who to replace him if they agree,
to start of I say yes, and for me the best available manager would be roberto di matteo
12 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM
toon1978
ha, perfect time, what with Ed’s title and all
this is crossing the threshold from two ring to three ring circus
13 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Blame the players, not just Pards. They are the ones that can change things.
14 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM
and this all loads up into a massive mess…
No summer signings which I and many many many others knew it would be doom. And bang it did. Now fans are up for 1 or 2 more after Debauchery. Problem is we are in dire straits we need 3 more signigns at least and that is pushing it.
I said couple of posts earlier to me Colo needs to be benched asap. To get a damn wake up call he did not sign for him to sit and relax and that is what he is doing ..a Gutti.
Willo should be shaken immediately and he wont thats the sad part. We need urget CB replacements right this minute and I mean replacements that ring the likes of Kompany, Vidic Hummels, Subotic as close to that class as possible. We need somebody who knows how to defend and lead the back 4.
Nothing less will suffice I hate to say it. I would even risk not having Remy but a young faster cheaper CF instead and bolster for the first time in a very long time our god damn defence.
Even without our main creators HBA and Cabaye we scored . To me Marveux has been a revelation and prat head Pardwho played him oowww soo late. I would possibly stick him on the LW so far.
I dont know I said earlier I never liked but never really disliked Patdew but with his lack of effing balls and pathetic tactics day in and out and selling the club short on formation to lick BAs balls is pathetic. Cisse got smothered and he is wearing the no 9.
This is the time our managers shortfall is shining as a diamond. People would say injuries take a look Moyes what he has been doing with Everton the last few years. One could not say we have less talent surely.
Pardew out Pardew out but it wont help ….its Ashley out, Pardew would follow like a wounded dog believe me.
15 Spuggy // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM
I didn’t think he made any excuses he says we need better players – anyone disagree with that?
We’re not going down if we get a top striker and CB. Big If like.
16 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM
PARDEW OUT – on the condition that we can get a better replacement!
17 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM
If any of the ameobis get a long term injury next match I will celebrate like asprilla did after he scored a goal
18 colwell // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Bring back Kinnear.
MA sacked CH as he couldn’t take us to the next level, Well WTF is this you fat cnut?
19 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM
tads…
very good summary that mate, agree with all of it.
20 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM
colwell – is Poet Laureate something you’d be interested in?
21 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM
NufcCusa – agreed but is that because they have been given the chance go play and prove their worth of are they just naturally better players from a young age? Like bigirimana seems more ready at 18/19 than others a that age?
Tads – well done for making the effort, feel for you and others who travelled and witnessed that. We’re one of the loyalist because we ensure so much pain and misfortune over the years, not because we once sang the loudest. I have never seen SJP so subdued and its the Ashley reign that has brought this on, the passion is being kicked out of us so we feel nothing but anger or sadness.
Would cisse have made much difference today? He isn’t a physical striker and thy were holding on to each attacker we had. Unless he scored a wonder goal I feel he would have been kicked out the game or had poor service all day.
Pardew needs to find his nuts and stand up to the board, anyone can see we need a cb and a st minimum
22 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Sorry for the repost lads but eds on a mission again!
Well just got back from the game and have to say
What an absolute shower of sh1t
Did the lads remember they had a game today?
Because only 2 or 3 of them looked like they could be bothered today an absolutly disgraceful gutless display that they should be fcuking ashamed of from the manager/coaches down to the players
Elliot
Decent game made some good stops but didnt have a chance with defence he had infront of him
Tavernier
Shouldn’t of been on the pitch no tactical awarness no positional sense constantly got done for pace by wayne bridge ffs, took forever to get back when our play broke down and has no first touch
Willo
Was shocking today nothing more to say really need a CB ASAP!
Perchinio
Done well cleared a looping header of the line rarely paniced took a very hard challenge and struggled after that
Santon
Didnt turn up today gave the ball away cheaply and didnt cover the flank with any sort of conviction
Abied
Awful truly awful no first touch and bottled every 50/50
Bigi
Paniced on the ball alot today and seemed to run himself into trouble but did ok
Anita
Felt gutted for this lad, ran his ars3 off today won everything broke play made challenges looked to make things happen but with the rest of the squad as static as subuteo figures it was a losing battle for the lad
Obertan
Made so many runs up the line only for tav to aimlessly punt the ball to nowhere
A few good runs got stuck in first half faded in the second a bit but the crowd were clearly p1ssed at him being taken off instead of sammy
Sammy
Shocking today unbelivably lazy cant pass cant run with the ball looked to scared to shoot got knocked off the ball with no fight just kept falling over and looking for free kicks and had no first touch at all
Shola
Red card was harsh but tbh didnt even notice he was off the pitch
He wasn’t up for it today at all applied no presure won no ariel battles and generally couldnt be ars3d to run
Ranger
Fair play to him came on and looked bright looked like he had a point to prove as he left the pitch at full time in a barny with sammy
Marv
Great player should of come 15 mins earlier in fact no should of started infront of abied
Dummett
The ONLY positive from this game he worked his socks off won nearly everything had great pace put in some tasty challenges busted a nut to get forward and support but a couple of cracking fizzing crosses in and alaways got back quickly when we didnt have the ball and should be above fergie in regards to the LB position
He had a great game and should of started instead of tav
Pardew
No ifs or buts today im affraid AP you got it wrong
Subs at the wrong time made the wrong man captain and put the wrong starting 11 out
All in all a gutting day and possibly the most subdued away stand ive ever been in, the travelling fans but a great effort in today but its hard to cheer for the sh1te that was served up today
Oh and that ref was a reet pr1ck
23 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Abeid should’ve always been starting ahead of Bigi. You can’t judge a player by only 45 minutes. He’s a good footballer and is great mates with Ben Arfa. He’ll come good.
Marveaux stood out again.
24 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM
tads
i know your pain
i travelled to Bordeaux away and after took a self-imposed exile from namely the blog. completely disheartening. judging by posts on here you are inherently more optimistic about our current plight than i am, but this is becoming far too much for me to swallow
on our board’s rational, if CH could not take us to the next level, than what is this?
25 nufc1984 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Come off it. Pardew is the problem. His lack of passing football had lost the dressing room even when the do called stars were in the team. We were lucky to beat Tottenham, draw at Everton even when the so called big players were in the team. Only good performances I’ve seen we’re against mackems and against man utd. The rest have been abject headless chicken performances resided over by a manager who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow. No good new buys in January will change that!!! Sack him already
26 colwell // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Eddie – Yes, Yes I would.
27 IITianToon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM
The players should apologise to the travelling fans and the club should refund their travel fees.
28 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM
gorgonzola
‘Newcastle boss Alan Pardew has hinted he might make further moves’. Might is NOT good enough. We NEED at least 4 new players in 1 up front and three more defenders.
29 PontiusLee // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM
im honestly glad we got knocked out of the cup.
all our efforts should be put into our position in the league,
i hope we get knocked out of europa as well, anyone else think so?
we need our players fresh, and we cant afford to play multiple games in a week, we arent deep enough.
30 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM
1984
i agree. sunderland was hardly a good performance though. even with 10 men we should be able to put it to that awful team
man u is the only highlight of a nasty, disgusting campaign
31 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM
tads…
very good summary that mate, agree with all of it.
…felt awful for our great fans who made the journey, and gave that 11 players more support than they deserved.. For what it’s worth i apologise for what you had to watch.
32 macdonaldtudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM
AP MA please just go away
33 macdonaldtudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM
AP MA please just go away.
34 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM
TADS
What was the feeling in the stands? AP comes out with the same old tired excuses. Seems to me the players were’nt up for it? That AP’s job to motivate the players and get the best of what he’s got. Yeah there were a lot of youngsters….but from memory didn’t AP list Sammy as one of his shining stars! I’m no scout but I cannot see it meself.
35 Toonacious T // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM
The fact he hasn’t even got the balls to just come out and say we need three more quality signings is pathetic. He has to qualify an already conservative statement with ‘or whether thats getting players back from injury’. This is to give MA an excuse for more penny pinching, Saylor and Cabaye back will no doubt be
like new signings. We will win nothing with MA and his apologist Pardew running our club and team. Don’t know how many more BS excuses I can listen to from this clown.
36 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM
toonarmydownsouth (21)
Very fair summary. egarding transfers, the supporters won’t stand for anymore excuses. There are no more excuses. Pards saying possible 1 or 2 players is concerning to sy the least. And saying January is very difficult to get players in is not what we want to hear. Excuse after excuse. NO PARDS no more excuses. Tell the board how it is. Stop licking their backsides. After all it is Mr Pardew who is on the front line getting all the abuse while the board hide behind the scenes. Get some balls and stick up for yourself Pards mannnnn.
37 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:54 PM
col – glad to hear it; you go for it and do’t let anyone put you down!
tads – good words on Dummy but a bit harsh on Tav. he was mediocre at right back but terrific at centre back.
38 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:54 PM
pontiuslee
you’re glad we lost?
you hope we lose in the EL?
what is the point in supporting this club?
we worked so hard for it last year and now success has become a hinderance?
39 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM
Nick 9
Its a strange feeling being in and among the toon faithful on such quiet voice
Before the game the fans were lively got to our seats still lively team sheet went up and took the atmosphere off a bit but they fans were good until 65/70 mins when anger took over from such a heartless display, they still stayed to the whistle clapped the players who could be ars3d to come over, bigi and elliot looked devestated but then all left in silence its a sad feeling tbh
And no i dont think cisse would of made any difference at all given the service and man handling which i still cant believe the ref didnt have a word with there players about
Eddie
Aye maybe a touch harsh didnt see him much at CB because he was doon the other end of the pitch but was sat right behind him in the first half and honestly he was shocking at FB
40 Constanstine // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM
We just got thrashed by a lower league team, out of Capital One Cup, 2 pt from drop zone and Pardew is still saying the some old excuse since the start of the season. This is pathetic, our players on paper are far better than Brightion. Even so, if you lose out on the players then you have to come out with a better tactic. 11 man defending who cares just get the result. So far Pardew has proven his mouth does a better job than his football knowledge.
41 IITianToon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM
And the thing which really rankles my neurons is that some of the solutions are blatantly simple! I mean cant he see how slow Shola is and how lazy Sammy is.. both the brothers just keep the ball at their feet till like 3 players crowd them out.. or they try to dit by themselves from 30 yards..
EVEN at halftime Pards could have made amends:
Perch for Dummet was enforced fair enough..
Campbell for Shola!!!
Marvaux for Sammy..
I mean can anyone please explain the rationale behind his decisions today?? I mean its baffling!
42 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM
Maybe the defense was bad (wouldn’t be nothing new really), but you cannot play 4-3-3 with a Targetman like Shola and have no link up (it’s pointless).
…Abeid was playing too defensively (I have a feeling he was told too otherwise Pardew would have corrected him)
For me these are the silly mistakes we keep making and they’ll get us no way. The rot needs to be fixed from within – it won’t help just buying a few new players…
Second half was much better, but you don’t win if you cannot score goal – plus Shola is really just letting everyone down with that display and behavior.
Is it just me or has his attitude and his confrontation taken a turn too the bad over the last season or two (ever since he beefed up) It might sound silly, but he acts like some one on steroids (he’s irritable and aggressive)
43 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM
time the board sacks up and gets rid
this man WILL take us to the next level
unfortunately that level is the tier below the one we’re currently floundering in
44 Indian Magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM
I Just hope the season finishes w/o any real big damage. we can start with a blank slate then
45 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM
Do any of you really think things would be any better with a different manager???
Who ever is in charge will NOT be backed by the owner.
Get past our strongest starting 11 and we have a very, very poor squad made up of inexperienced youngsters and cheap signings that don’t have the right to wear our shirt.
If Pardew had been backed in the transfer market the likes of Williamson, Simpson, Perch and quite a few others would not be at the club.
THE BLAMES IS WITH THE MAN WHO HAS GIVEN PARDEW AND EIGHT YEAR CONTRACT AND FAILED AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO BACK HIM
46 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM
Get Shola & Sami traded whilst the window is still open. Believe Daisy & Dopey two donkeys off Blackpool Beach are available snap em up now.
We can’t afford to risk regulars in Fa Cup or League Cup so nothing for us there. Never going to do anything in Prem perhaps Ashley thinks the only thing we might win is the Championship. Deluded! never in a million years with that lot & that’s all we’ll have left when we go down. Notts Forest played 82 games in season they won European Cup with a squad of 17. We’ve used 30+ players already this season.
47 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM
The cup was a burden anyway but it’s the manner we lost in. People are quick to forget we had five first team regulars in there and a pretty good keeper in Elliot. It’s the manner we have played all season. We may have been convincing in the last six games but we are far from looking like a good side and have probably just hit our peak with injuries but luckily some are short term.
Anything other than a minimum of three signings and I’m done with Pardew. He doesn’t have the ability to motivate and is very questionable at times. If he doesn’t have the ability to get his mates to spend then e brings nothing to the table. I would rather offer a likeable or proven manager the chance to be consistent at the toon but this guy with each passion game/interview is looking more like one of them
48 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM
Debuchy is a great start to this window. We still need a CB, good strong midfielder and a striker or 2. Ranger must be released. He will never amount to an EPL player. Sammy, Tavs, Dummett, Abeid all need to be sent out or back out on loan.
49 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM
Partial repost
TADS thanks for the best review I’ve seen of today’s disaster – not a word I usually use about a Toon loss.
KETS
Abied should be sold on – he is not going to make the grade and certainly not fit to clean Cabaye’s boots.
Dummet was solid during his spell.
Your football knowledge is restricted to what you read on Panini cards
CATCHY
You promised us all you would not come back on this blog until Pardew was sacked.
So that makes you a lying cheating f-wit as well as a troll. You’re only here to gloat.
Doesn’t matter what manager we have until the owner restructures the playing side and makes sure we have enough cover to do a job.
Sell 10 reserves for £1m each and buy two half decent defenders.
Do we think Pardew really wants to play Williamson in a starting 11 ? All his press statements are damage limitation as he has his hands tied behind his back.
I also agree we need another coach in, if only a confidence coach.
If the guys on the coaching team (including Beardo) are so good how come our stats (goals from corners blah blah blah) are so total rubbish. Maybe Pardew should stay and the others go.
But he seriously does need to up his own game too. Especially with subs. He’s made some real bad calls the last 5-6 matches/
The rot with the Toon starts at the top. Batman and Robin need to take responsibility and totally restructure their failed 5 yr plan.
If Batman does not deal with our major weaknesses this window then the judgement will be with him.
And no manager could take the squeeze he’s put on our playing side. Not even SAF. (he’d be playing 4-4-2 ffs)
He’s had 5 years but keeps making big mistakes.
He failed this summer big time. We needed at least two defenders then.
It might be hard to think it but Pardew might be so desperate he deliberately took a losing side to Brighton to get some leverage for new signings.
We need more playmakers than Yo, for starters.
50 veto // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM
a team shouldnt fall apart just cos it has 2-3 first team regulars out .
we simply dont have a good enough squad , need another 2-3 first team quality players in the door
51 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM
i’ve been saying it for ages
out of all the youngsters unfairly being given chance after chance, sammy is the worst of the lot
he will flourish in l2, maybe l1
52 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM
JackButler (44)
I agree with you all the way. Pardew does make excuses tbf mate regarding transfers.
53 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:03 PM
As long as we bring in TWO, proper, CB’s during this window, we will avoid relegation; BUT the signings must be capable of walking straight into the team tomorrow.
Collo looks a shadow of himself – he is trying to do the work of 3, being partnered by the absent Williamson and covering Santon. TWO new CB’s allows Collo a break and gives them the chance to start really bossing the back four – something that is sadly lacking. If we sort the back 4, we plug the leaks, we stop conceding stupid goals.
Every half decent team is built on a creditable back four but we have a barely plausible back 2.5. Pardew is supposedly the defensive coach – that needs to change immediately, recruit somebody who can really do the job and leave Pardew to manage the whole team, not parts of it.
Todays game was a game Pardew was very happy to loose, one lot of games he doesn’t have to worry about allowing 100% effort in maintaining our league status – which is of paramount importance and the only objective to be pursued. Mon the toooon
54 Indian Magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:03 PM
OKAY PARDEW DID NOT GET THE BACKING FROM OWNERS.
what abt the previous 2 years
Stevenage and Brighton 2012
55 YorkshiresFinestGeordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Padrew still had a good squad to work with even though there was no investment. Alright, maybe if we got a couple more good players then we could be challenging for top 6 but with the squad he has its still good enough for top 10. It’s his tactics that have messed us up this season. He’s had one lucky season in his all career and he thought he was invincible but this season has just shown he’s a Shyte manager. Also, sa Ameobi isn’t even championsh quality, get rid or he’s just going to end up like his brother getting a nice weekly wage sitting on the bench.
56 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM
JB – that depends, doesn’t it?!
57 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Short article but spot on.
http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/answer-staring-pardew-in-the-face/
58 Doilatoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Well said To Steps Forward!!!
59 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Spot on Jack but I think we have only possibly 8 good enough for Prem then possibly another 7 squad men plus 3 long term sicknotes (Saylor, Raylor & Benny) If he was going to use this as a test for his youngsters why didn’t Fergie get on & why didn’t he give Streete a run. Fear Colo will be sold to make more mediocre signing. Remy not coming if Harry after him (he’ll get him)
60 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM
JB 44 good post
Toon 1978
Maybe he has no choice.
Damage limitation.
Between rock and hard place.
But he needs to get his act together too
61 Doilatoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM
Well said To Steps Forward!!
62 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Graeme
Two quality CBs yes.
And we need a guy with real leadership qualities on the pitch
63 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Rob Elliot; James Tavernier, Mike Williamson, James Perch, Davide Santon; Gael Bigirimana, Vurnon Anita; Sammy Ameobi, Mehdi Abeid, Gabriel Obertan; Shola Ameobi (c)
Substitutes: Tim Krul, Paul Dummett, Shane Ferguson, Sylvain Marveaux, Romain Amalfitano, Adam Campbell, Nile Ranger
Thats our squad today, there are only FOUR of those players that should be anywhere near our first team squad.
Santon, Krul, Anita and Marveuax, thats 14 players that are either simply not good enough or are far to inexperienced to play 1st team football.
Past our best starting 11 we have a Championship squad it’s that simple
64 darrenfletcher88 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM
@veto!! 2 or 3??? Realy?? R.taylor,s.taylor, jonas,cabaye,Ben Arfa, and that just senior players!
65 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM
When I say I’m done with Pards I don’t mean I will be negative at the game calling for his head but will have made my mind up on his abilities.
Jb – I think any manager worth their salt would be at loggerheads with the owner and make it known he wants signings. Pardew has only recently admitted they didn’t do enough in the window and now he seems indecisive on exactly how many players we want or are looking at. He needs to find some balls with the owners and passion on the touchline. You can knock him for arguing with O’Neil and nudging a linesman but when he does stuff like that I feel like he is one of us. Most other times I feel like he is a PR man for Ashley. I just question why it took so long to phase out those free kicks, his inclusion of certain player and exclusion of others and his motives. He seems to protect Ashley but not its getting tougher for him he is asking more of the owner, I hope he keeps on asking.
TADS- every home game thousands stay to clap off the few players that are brave enough to stay on the pitch and engage with the fans.
66 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM
LMFAO
i only just got it
when they said CH could not take us to the next level, i thought they ment up,, now i see,, they ment down
pardew is perfect for that,, he has the form for that
67 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM
I despise how Pardew expects the players to do his job for him.
68 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM
matty
But really, what do we do?
The owner does not care, and the manager is going nowhere.
What is there to do? I genuinely see not one single option as a fan.
69 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM
LYF
Cheers mate no need for apologies but it wont be long before fans cant ars3d to travel like
Matty
Its a gutting feeling!
Im still optomistic that we can turn this season around and i do feel certain players will help by returning but not without investment
Our squad depth is severly lacking quality and its time to face up to the fact a few of our players simply aren’t good enough especially from our youth, i normally get called fickle for that but can you still count players as youth at 21? They should be showing more by now for me
Pardew im in a hard position on
I dont think the board have backed him properly and i do understand his excuses’s like todays of the shirt being to big for certain players, but i do wish he’d stop talking about it and go and boot ashleys door in and demand some fcuking signings!!!
Spread
The mood was strange tbh and didnt hear anyone calling for pardews head in all honesty i think there was a feeling today that he put a mix of youth and seniors out that for a majority looked like they couldnt be ars3d
He tried to change it at half time and tbf ranger looked uo for it and worked hard although there was some head scratching going on when gabby came off instead of sammy
70 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM
Eddie
Depends on what exactly???
71 S-G // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM
No team outside of manure, city, the arse, and chelski could have 11+ injuries at any one time and still manage let alone our thread bare squad. Pards is not too blame. I agree his subs were poor today but i can understand him not wantin to risk marvoux too much.
If it was just down to pardew we wuda had 4-5 extra bodies over the summer to see us thru this but its all down to cashley and fagan lambiarse
72 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM
Let’s be quite blunt about this: how many BHA players would we have in our squad? – and yet compare performances!
73 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM
This defeat should have alarm bells ringing in Ashleys ears. If not then he is a fool.
74 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM
JB – depends on who replaces Pardew.
75 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM
Well said Graeme (52) but MA will not spend cash until he sells again & we won’t get sufficient cash from sale of Willo the Weak, Gosling, Abeid, Amalfiliano, Ranger, Shola or Obertan. WE have never had a solid defence even in the Keegan era : Kilcline, Peacock, Marcelino, Helder, Boumsong just to name a few.
76 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM
YEAH! DEBUCHY’s IN THE HEADER OF THE WEBPAGE AND BA@S HAS GONE! TOON TOON TOON TOON TOON TOON!
77 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM
We have not seen enough ofAmalfiliano to criticise him.
78 breno95 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM
My analysis of the performance given today in one word – Disgraceful!
Supporters can accept a loss if they have witnessed drive, effort and a competitive display however, all of this was very much lacking.
It is very clear we need a leader on the pitch and in the dugout. Not one player has it in them to dish out a rollicking to team mates who need one during a game. Someone needs to grow a pair in the squad and address this ASAP.
As for the team today my views are as follows:-
Elliott – decent keeper has a future.
Tavernier – needs more experience.
Perch – squad player but not good enough.
Williamson – gives his all but no future.
Santon – talented, needs a rest to regain focus. Has a future at NUFC.
Obertan – no future at all. Useless.
Abeid – must be wondering what he has to do. I would give him a future.
Bigi – talented and has future with NUFC.
Anita – superb player.
Sammy – no future at NUFC. Useless.
Shola – useless is too good a word. Captain of side but so lacks any of the attributes to lead or inspire. No future and should never get anywhere near a match day squad again.
Ranger – no future
Dummett – potential hence has a future.
If I have missed any out it was because they were so poor and failed to make any impression at all.
I could have rounded up 16 mates who would have shown more fight and nous than the lot who pretended to represent NUFC.
I worry that with displays of this kind will deter any new quality from joining us under the leadership of AP who, with every game that passes, continues to show that him and his staff (carver & Stone ffs) have no knowledge or ability to lead. I fear we are stuffed unless some if the senior players take a stand and take matters into their own hands to shape the clubs result for the rest of the season.
I am hopeful that the rumoured signings are gonna happen and will be alot more confident come mid January we can field:-
Krul
Debuchy
Sakho
Colo
Santon
Sissoko
Anita
HBA
Cabaye
Remy
Cisse
Subs:-
Elliott
Saylor
Simpson
Marveaux
Jonas
Tiote
79 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM
nick
He has one of the most passionate support bases in football screaming for new signings, to see the owner to show real intent and take us forward and invest in areas any fool can see we need to be stronger, and he has a owner who is happy with mid table and have a mediocre squad, mediocre manager who does as he’s told.
People talk about sacking Pardew but who in their right mind would want to work for Ashley??? As, as soon as you take the job you are being undermind and left to answer all the questions
80 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:17 PM
I see ITV have already booked the TOON for next years 3rd round live match.
Viewers like a good farce to brighten up the New Year
81 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:18 PM
You lot slating Pardew for making ‘excuses’ wtf do you expect hime to say – “I’m a shite manager, clueless and I’ll resign after this interview” ?????
We HAVE got injuries to key players, we HAVE got a shortage of quality in depth and players like Tav, Abheid, Sammy and Ranger are NOT good enough for the first team.
You lot ranting and raving on about Pardews excuses haven’t got a fkn clue about management. The guy has lost a shedload of games and he’ll be hurting just as much as the rest of us. He can’t slag off his employers, he can’t slag off his players and if he slagged himself off he”d be branded a defeatest ffs.
He isn’t making excuses he’s just saying exactly what we’ve ALL been saying on this blog – we need more first team players.
82 Rock // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM
It’s the most disgraceful day as a fan. Not the relegation day coz then I knew we didnt deserved to be relegated…today I know we deserve to get relegated.
Shola, Sammy, bigi, Williamson, abeid cannot get into Brighton’s bench,let alone premier league. No will, no creativity, no quality, no plan, no confidence.. Unbelievable.
83 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM
Eddie, it doesn’t matter who replaces Pardew as he’s get the same treatment off Ashley. Do you think the likes of Fergie, Wenger or any other manager would succeed if they were not backed by their clubs???
84 Mister Tuff // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM
Since the summer I’ve always thought that we would get Debuchy plus two more, with the potential of an extra surprise/quality player costing more money -that Ashley agreed to exceed the budget. (I’ve posted this as well)
Rumours suggest a minimum of 4 quality arrivals I would not be surprised now that the minimum is increased. Ashley can authorise it at a whim.
85 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM
JB – as far as i’m aware Ashley complies with employment law a pays those who work for him – therefore anyone who fancies a tilt at the prem would work for Ashley!
86 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Toon1978 MA is a businessman only interest in money. Couldn’t give a shite about NUFC. He uses players like his Sports Direct products. Buy em cheap sell em on & Pardew won’t be sacked unless we go down then he’ll use his Puppet as a scapegoat (even with his 8 year contract
87 GeordieDan // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Kets>
Are you a professional wind-up merchant?
Abeid should start ahead of Bigi? Based on what evidence exactly? What drugs are you on lad?
Abeid has had numerous chances now and has looked truly terrible in almost every minute of game time he’s had.
He needs loaned out ASAP along with Tav,, Sammy, Fergie and Willo (like we’d get a taker for him).
Miles away from being good enough-mentally as well as physically.
88 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Krul, colo, santon, cabaye, Anita, cisse, Arfa, marveaux, Debuchy, tiote, Taylor,
Those are the only senior players worth their salt at the club, the rest are all average players or inconsistent. Funnily enough those exact players make an eleven but the likes of Simpson, Williamson, perch, raylor, gosling, guti, shola, obertan, Sammy, ranger, Xisco are all fringe players and very average.
I would perhaps consider keeping Simmo, perch, raylor and obertan but any others can go. Far too many passengers in the squad taking up valuable spaces
89 El Sleeve // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM
pardew has to go, simple as, his tactics are woeful
90 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM
JB
Out of today’s team sheet, agree starters
STARTERS
Santon, Krul, Anita and Marv,
but then it gets weaker and weaker
SECOND 11
Rob Elliot;
James Perch,
Gael Bigirimana,
Gabriel Obertan;
THIRD 11
James Tavernier,
Paul Dummett,
Shane Ferguson,
Romain Amalfitano,
Adam Campbell,
and I’d get rid of the rest on the teamsheet
91 jimiley // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM
Wenger has never had one. Nor Ferguson. Nor Mourinho. No manager in the history of the game has had one. I am talking about an 8 year contract. The very best might get a 3 or 5 year contract. So why does a manager who has been repeatedly sacked at previous clubs (that means he is not very good) get one?
Answers on a postcard please.
But it does sum up the kamikaze way the club is run. The only certainty is that there is little money for players and the BIG MAN takes in more than he spends.
It really is a curse supporting the club under this owner.
92 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:22 PM
bills
Personally I’m not a fan of Pardew – I don’t like his attitude as a person, and his style of football isn’t one I’m a fan of – but I agree with you there. The only way he could avoid criticism one way or another would be to just refuse to do interviews!
93 geordiegav1987 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM
The fact that nearly all our fringe players arent even trying to state there claim for first team football shows me that something is seriously wrong behind the curtains.
I know that they will be thinking they dont need to prove anything because theres so many injurys at the moment – that pretty much everyone is getting a chance, but to me it looked today that no one wanted to be playing except marveaux.
Infact its looked like no one has wanted to be playing for us since pardew got that long contract which seems to be about the same time we started to play shit.
I hate to say it but I wonder who else is ready to jump ship. Thats probably the only way we will see any new players through the door this window.
What worries me is when a team loses all confidence it’s up to the fans to keep faith in there team to try and bring some of that confidence back, but it seems to me that between 50 to 90% of the fans are starting to get seriously fed up with the abismle displays along with the lame excuses from pardew. I’m fed up and I have been one of the most confident fans since I was a kid.
Ashley doesnt like spending money but loves makeing it, well he better watch out because I can see saint james’ park being only half full at best if the team carries on the slippery slope we’ve found ourselves on.
I hope I’m wrong because we need to keep showing up and supporting our team no matter how crap we are playing and how painfull it is to watch.
Truely depressing times:(
94 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM
WLG – too cynical. Ashley, if he has nothing else, has pride. Nufc reflects on him so i don’t buy this “he doesn’t care” spiel. Of course he’s no Geordie but who thought he was?
95 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM
Pardew cannot even get the best out of our best 11 players.
96 magpiebop // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM
Got text off wor lass at work during the game, it said “you’re missing nowt”!
97 lesh // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM
So says Pardew, we need bigger players, whether that’s a signing or getting a player back from injury
From that I read that as we’ve bought Debuchy, Simpson’s still with us and Saylor’s on his way back from injury (’til the next time), we can forget about any more defensive signings.
And, as Shola’s being suspended and Cisse can play as lone striker, then a striker’s not gonna appear or if at all, for a few weeks.
Midfield reinforcements? Forget it as long as Cabaye and HBA are on the mend.
So, to summarise Llambias’ thinking as above, forget any reinforcements and look forward to more defeats, relegation and a mass exodus followed by a massive hit on the club’s finances and…… well, who knows.
Now, who’s responsible for signing of spend and should have carried the can after the lack of summer activity? It certainly aint Pardew! But, he looked absolutely pi$$ed off again, as did the players who just didn’t turn up.
Time for big big changes at a senior level!
98 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM
TADS
Interesting account…..if anything it sounds like the lads were subdued in the stands…..that’s never a good sign……but tbf good on em for travelling…..we haven’t won on the road in ages.
Agree with the underinvestment , lack of players but do you feel that knowing the abilities of the players we had out there today that we could have got something from this? I am amazed at the lack of passion from the players………what’s with that? You’d think that they’d be more up for it after half-time talk but I only noticed a change when Marveaux came on tbh. Abject…….and isn’t it the mgr who should be buoying the players. Really hope AP acknowledged the supporters.
99 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM
two steps
Mate, 14 of that squad are reserve team level at best.
If Ashley had stumped up for a right back and center half in the summer, then willo and Simpson would not have played this season.
Our injury list is very bad at the moment and it has exposed the lack of depth and quality to our squad
100 ochytoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM
Don’t see us signing anymore players this transfer window. Pards needs to grow a pair and call out Ashley. Only way he’s gonna win back my respect and hopefully, the teams.
101 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM
jimiley
the 8 yr contract is a red herring as no way would it be paid up in full if AP gets the royal order of the boot
102 No Plain Saylor // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM
Pardew actually said to itv “We were good enough today”. If that’s good enough then I honestly don’t know where we go from here.. the conference? My god it was a disaster. Admit it, no more excuses everytime we lose. Be a man and admit you made mistakes, the team made mistakes, Dont feed them crap saying you were alright and blah blah blah, they need to hear they were pathetic. Its the same bullsiht every. single. game. If that was me I wouldnt say “we were good enough”. Id go into that dressing room physically and mentally abuse every single one of those players, insult willo till he cried, and then make them refund the travelling supporters who paid to watch that sh1te.
103 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM
How can Pardew not get the best out of our best players? He finished 5th last season lol. He is suffering this season because he aint got the balls to tell Ashley straight that we need half a dozen good signings.
104 GeordieDan // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM
Eddie>
Don’t kid yourself.
Just coz Ashley owns our club doesn’t make him proud of it. It makes him money because of the way he chooses to run it, much to the utter disgustof almost every single on of us.
He couldn’t give a 5hit what OUR club look like as long as it makes him £££££. Any moron can see we need 4+ new players just to make sure we survive this season and but not dear old Mike. He’ll just spin the roulette wheel and let whatever will be will be.
F******* Ar5ehole. Plain and simple.
105 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM
West Lancs / Two Steps – they have to be blind not to see the frailties we have at the moment. Simpson is distracted, wants another club, just sell him and have done with it. Williamson should be sold, he has the turning circle of a cruise liner and acceleration to match.
Collo, Debuchey, Santon are the foundations.
If we bring in two top Quality CB’s to play now, who can actually command and control the back 4 we would make dramatic improvement in 2 weeks. Drop Collo, give the man a break; let the 2 new guys sort out the back four so it functions as a unit, everyone knows their role. Collo id good enough to fit in any system.
Sell Simpson, Williamson, Saylor to recover some of the outlay. I believe we would become a far better team than we are now.
It would certainly take us a long way towards avoiding relegation issues!!!
106 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM
Beattie – a point well worth making, again and again. The start of our season, with our “best 11″ was feeble to say the least – i know it was disrupted with injuries, suspensions, etc but that is exactly when a manager earns his bread.
107 Sir Braveheart // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM
@Eddie
“ despise how Pardew expects the players to do his job for him”
Care to elaborate? Because for all we know Pardew is coming up with good tactics and the players arent responding. If Man Utd/City or Chelsea went into a game and the managers gave them no tactical input would they play as poorly as we did today? Unlikely. Its down to the players on the pitch to perform.
You can talk about Pardew motivating his players but if I was a Newcastle player the fact Im being paid thousands a week to play, in front of a sell out away crowd who travelled a 700 mile round trip to support me and the chance to prove my ability would be enough motivation. The players werent good enough today. Pure and simple.
108 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM
say waht you want about ashley,, im not his biggest fans, far from it, but i dont think we can hate him that much
we have the best squad we have had in years,, maybe we did not all the players we needed in the summer , but 2 of them have made an impact on the squad,
and ppl saying who would work for him,, trust me,, lots would, they will be coming into a club with a decent squad, that can only get better
good squad big club,, i can see many takers
this club does not need a major overhaul, it needs good coaching right now,, today proved it even more
a team 9th, played us off the park, 63% possession,, and to think we had our best spell when we went down to 10 men
so sad
109 No Plain Saylor // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:30 PM
@Two step forward.. Pardew has a clause in his contract where if he gets fired, he will only receive one year wages in compensation.
110 curmon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:31 PM
I wonder how much money Ashley made by betting on a Brighton win. When I saw the team that Pardew picked I was tempted to have a bet on Brighton myself.
There were at least 7 players in that team who would struggle in the Championship. and don’t even get me started on Willo and the Ameobi circus duo.
111 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM
hahahahahahahah F..K U FERGY
112 magpie6699 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM
There goes my fantasy for this year. I dreamt of getting to Wembley and tonking Man Utd 5-0 so we could all hold placards for Fergie saying “wee FA cup winners in North East”
113 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM
JB
Aye agreed – but I’d get rid of a good few on today’s team sheet too.
The third 11 guys have promise but you can only bring through 2-3 players a season into your starting 11 without compromising results and we have had to do much more than that.
The second 11 guys on my list really are always going to be squad players imo
Simmo and Willo have only been one of the problems of not signing 2 defenders last summer. Our good players being off form hasn’t helped and neither have some of the odd subs and tactics, but again I think Pards has been experimenting for damage limitation and has got it wrong a good few times
114 magpiebop // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Llambias is responsible for signing players, so should carry the can, if he fails in this transfer window.
115 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Billson Pardew needs to tell the players exactly what he feels. He thought they did well today apparently! Absolute rubbish! We lost to a lower league side with 5 premier league starters and others like bigi and Marv. If he genuinely thought that was a good performanc then he must be dosed up on drugs. Pussyfooting around telling the players they did well has got us nowhere. Up your fcuk1ng game lads or ship out.
116 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Jimiley – a curse supporting NUFC under this owner? It’s paradise compared to what we put up with under Westwood and the McKeags.
Ashley was two signings short in the summer from making us a very decent team. He fkd up and we’ve been hit with an unbelievable number of injuries, suspensions and loss of form. Shit happens, but we’ve signed Debuchy and lets see who else comes in this month.
If Ashley doesn’t bring a quality CF and CH in I’ll revise my opinion of him. Nobody gets it right all the time and guess what – neither does Ashley.
117 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Cabaye has been poor this season and he only had 1 stand out game last season against Villa away. I still think Abeid will take his place in the future.
118 calvinho // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM
We need to make sure out signings in this window are to build the squad, and not replace those leaving! Selling Simpson now for £1m wouldn’t be worthwhile. We need 2 strikers, one to replace Ba, and one more. We need one CB. But selling Williamson now isn’t worthwhile. Keep him. He can be 4th or 5th choice centre halve.
119 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Sir B – this is precisely where we disagree, you and i.
for me, in order for a “manager of a team” even to have validity as a concept, makes it necessary that he/she actually does something! players are players – they might give a toss or not, they’re jobbers and it doesn’t matter how much they’re paid, they’re still just jobbers. the crucial figure – the conductor of the orchestra – is the manager.
i’ve seen worse players than the ones we had out today put in better shifts and do you know why? because someone was leading, coaching, organising them!
120 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Can’t remember who but somebody just said do you think we would be better if saf or wenger was in charge. Well if you don’t then you are dellusional.
121 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:37 PM
Pardew quote on TalkTalk
“But the window is open and it gives us an opportunity, hopefully, to strengthen the squad. It’s difficult to get transfers in in this window but we’re going to have to do to get Newcastle across the line.”
We’ll get the same answer 1st FEB as in previous years we tried extremely hard to get quality players in but just failed to do it. Won’t wash with the fans. I hate Transfer Windows!
122 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:38 PM
The thing that really sickens me is that we have one of the best scouts in the game with Graham Carr, but his ability to spot a quality player is hardly ever used.
An investment of 30-40 million would give us 6/7 top class players who would take us to that next level, instead we’re lucky to get Ashley to part with 5 million a season, no wonder we are going backwards
123 Sir Braveheart // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM
We had targets in the summer, Ashley played hardball over the price and gambled we could get them in Jan/next summer cheaper. Look at Debuchy, we got him at our price eventually. Ashley gambled we’d be ok for the first half of the season. We lost Staylor and Raylor and our defence fell apart. The gamble failed.
The good news is say we’re bidding for a player, Remy for example, and we bid 8m and the other club say we want 9m Ashley is more likely to stump up that little extra to secure him. He’s learned a painful lesson so far this season.
124 spitfire_ // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM
Ketsbaia9
Honestly you’re more clueless than Pardeaux. MORE!
125 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM
nick_9 – it’s irrelevant what Pardew “feels” – i imagine he feels as p!ssed off as the rest of us! the question is: what does he think? I fear, not much.
126 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Glad Man Utd are losing. They are so overrated it’s unreal.
127 coccolini // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:40 PM
i suppose putting a positive spin on things, if this makes fat ash splash a bit more cash it has to be a good thing. Lets just try and come out of this season unscathed, somehow convince our top lads to stay and make a proper effort next year
128 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:40 PM
bills-son
your words
2 players short of a very decent team? why are we playing so poor if we are only 2 players away from a very decent team,
does it mean with the players we have now we are a good team?
129 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM
Pardew could’nt encourage his lass to get up the stairs never mind 11 players to get up for a game.
130 GeordieDan // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM
Kets>
Yet again the bullshit does floweth from you kid…
Have you not noticed that Cabaye was injured and hasn’t been in the team for the last couple of months?
Have you not noticed that not even Abeid’s agent would agree with you right now on the garbage that is coming from out of you?
Why not just say Shane Ferguson is being lined up to be Demba Ba’s replacement or maybe Time Krul’s
Get a clue man.
131 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM
graeme 104
I’d go with that and as I don’t think Colo is an on pitch leader he’d need to be alongside a motivator.
Pity we can’t rely on Saylor injury wise as he plays well with Colo.
So yes we do need 2 CBs and build the team from the back . I would like Remy too, but prefer two Yaya / Kompnay style players if that was the choice offered.
132 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM
Kets – Cabaye only had one stand out game last season? Villa away? Yes he was good then…but what about Stoke at home? That was the best 70 minutes from any central midfielder, anywhere in this league last season, no doubt about it.
133 woodsee // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM
Apparently there is a 3rd Ameobi,he is blind in 1 eye and has a wooden leg but hes still been given a 5 yr contract
134 kimbo // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM
To all the muppets who think Anita is a good player, he is too small,too slow and only looks good because the rest of the players are crap. We need to get a big, strong, fast central midfielder, centre back and striker this week as I fear Cisse, Colo , HBA and Cabaye will want to leave.
135 beefman13 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM
AP keeps going on a out getting players back then iy will be all hu my dory???? Well it takes cabaye 4/5 games to find his top form after injury for starters, saylor may take a while as well and he is also prone to mistakes when not fully up and running, lets hope benny can slide back in quickly?!
We are past the half way mark and still need 20/21 points for safety, our managera tCtics and team selectiona fill me with dread.
He wont play campbell beacuse insists on that borrible long ball up to the front man, so adam campbell is on a hiding to nowt, plus Fergie gets frozen out completly, why? May e cos greedy sods like santon would not give the lad the ball still havnt forgiven him for freezing the lad out in the three games they played together, fergie dosnt give the all away. Heaply like the do key a eobi brothers and has made some very good goals with some excellent crosses.
AP has lost massive amount of my respect, tactics are awful and his stubborn ego and excuses drive me to dispair, quite frankly i bVe to admit he is tirning us sour plus i feel he may be loosing the dressing room and i can understand why completly, totally negTive cautios approach is bringing everyone down to its knees, starting to detest the fella.
136 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM
Don’t like Manure or that manager they call a SIR what a joke.
137 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:43 PM
Grame @ 104
Sensible comments there…..makes sense.
138 Puppet Pardew // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:43 PM
Sir Braveheart@106
Spot on, Sir B, every game I tell these players to get stuck in and tackle and keep the ball and score some goals and win the bloody game – and then they reward me by losing!
To add insult to injury some of the fans blame me, can you believe that? It’s as if I said “go out lose the game” to them. Mind you, I keep careful notes of everything in my little notebook, along with lottery numbers and laundry ticket, just in case I have to go a tribunal at some point…
139 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:43 PM
Kets
more of the usual shite then
Abied just ain’t got it – Cabs is a full international
140 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:43 PM
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A//www.actusports.fr/24986/om-une-offre-de-12-millions-pour-loic-remy/
Ffs!!
141 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM
Good night and God bless. A bientot et vive la revolution!
142 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM
Everyone thinks we will be ok when the injuries return. Why?
We haven’t played well all season. Injuries are relatively recent.
Cabs will come back and be too deep in a 442
Benny will come back and be stuck out a wing
Jonas will come back to be a non-existent LW
Colo our captain and ba our top scorer said the players were not happy with the style they were being asked to play. Some people are still in denial when that alone should have alarm bells ringing.
143 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM
kimbo…
Anita is a f-ing whippet, i swear some people on this blog don’t actually watch Newcastle. That, or they have absolutely no clue about football.
Do one man, aye?
144 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM
Pardew trains the lads for as long as he wants, when he wants. He chooses what to work on and who is in the eleven, he choses to drop them or retain them depending on how they respond in the game. He is meant to work on our errors, if a player isn’t cutting if drop him. He said himself when he got the job that he will have to knock on Ashley’s door asking for transfer. Instead he made the decision that he was happy last summer. He then persists with a rubbish formation, silly set pieces, under performing players, ridiculous subs and cannot motivate the lads.
Pardew certain isn’t void of any criticism but not are the players and those two clowns upstairs who are so arrogant they think they know better than at least 52000 fans who actually all have a common perception on who isn’t cutting it, who is and positions that need strengthening.
145 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM
Nick 9
Im hoping when pardew said that its becuase he prefers to do things in house and would hope 80 % of the squad that played today are getting full hairdryer treatment for nothing short of a disgraceful display of football and professionalism
Like i said at the final whistle only elliot marv bigi anita stood for any length of time to appluad the fans the rest slumped off down the tunnel looking more intrested in blaming each other than accepting they werent good enough and atleast acknowledging it by thanking the supporters
Poor bigi looked close to tears at full time he had a bit of mare today but i think this lad has a big future here
146 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM
…and as for him being too small, the best CM in the world is absolutely tiny – Xavi.
147 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:46 PM
kimbo // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:41 PM
To all the muppets who think Anita is a good player, he is too small,too slow and only looks good because the rest of the players are crap.
GET A GRIP OF YOURSELF LAD!!!!!
148 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Magpies-till-d3ath
Why are you bothered mate? If Remy goes to QPR then it is clearly for the money. Do we want someone like that here again? No. Redknapp is a very unclassy human specimen. He is a runt and a criminal.
149 Sir Braveheart // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:47 PM
@Eddie
But we’ve also seen players put in horrendous shifts for great managers. Sir Bobby and Bramble/Boumsong for example. My point is Pardew could be telling them the right things and the players arent doing them. Pardew talked before the game about playing with energy, but look how lethargic we were. The players have to take some accountability for that, as well as Pardew. Its not all on the managers shoulders. That was my point.
150 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:47 PM
Kimbo
Did your guide dog help you write that about anita? Get a clue man
151 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Catchy, a quality CH and and a left back who can defend would have really strengthened our best eleven.
However, we’d have needed another five players to cover for the injuries and loss of form by Cabaye and Tiote. Hindsight is easy for us all.
152 noladonna // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM
willo out
simmo out
perch out
shola out how this guy has made a career for himself at newcastle united is fooking unbelievable 10 yrs of watching this guy falling over his own feet
153 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM
I was having a look through some of my old posts and found this corker after last seasons 1-0 disappointing win against Norwich:
Beattie25 // Mar 18, 2012 at 5:59 PM
Yet again another dissapointing day for me.
I said the performance was as important as the victory.
The performance was terrible and we have played well 3 times all season. Flashes of brilliance overshadowed by 9our need for rescilliance.
Pardew again got it tactically wrong today for me with his subsitutions. Instead of bringing on Vuckic or Abied to relieve the pressure he brought Santon on for HBA and invited it.
We shut up shop at 1-0 and I cannot take it anymore.
If this football doesn’t change next year it will be a dog fight for sure.
As for this year top 8 would be amazing but it will be an opportunity lost, a season bottled and chance missed.
154 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Kimbo
Anita is quality. Size isn’t everything
155 Steven // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Evening all don’t often post buy always enjoy reading, just wanted to say that although I’m no lover of pardew people who try to say look at eveton and what moyes has done. Well take a close look it took moyes a good 4 years to stabilise eveton nd they have always been (up until this season) been poor starters nd the first time they finished in el the finished just above relegation. All I’m getting at is does pardew deserve time ie this season and maybe the begging of next? In my eyes I’d say yea but the last couple of games have been as bad as the season we went down nd I cans deal with another year in the championship so I’d say give the next 3 games – all teams around us then decide!
Ps I’ve decided I’m going to post more often
156 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:49 PM
kimbo
what a strange comment. Some of the best payers around are midgets with a great turning circle. Anita is used to being in a passing team and is one of our only bright spots
at the moment along with marveaux
157 darrenfletcher88 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:49 PM
@kets,man u are so overated??? So is there points total I guess
158 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Graeme you might not think it but I agree with you. Only Ashley will only spend some of the money he raises. Ba made us £7M but Debuchy only cost £4/5 – so he pockets the rest. Who in their right mind is going to pay big bucks for the wastrels? He could sell Tiote for me but wouldn’t get anywhere near what we would have at end of last season (£16M then) perhaps £4 now? We’ve always had too many injuries – is it to do with the training? Fear is Colo is next to go & what will he do bring in Lescott on loan? Buy some unproven like Mariappa probably. Yes he must speculate to accumulate but he won’t. He knows if we go down he can sell : Colo, Cabaye, Krul, Anita, Debuchy & the likes & walk away.
159 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Bills son @115
To right mate, compared to those days, this is almost paradise. This current team is only a few players short of being capable of challenging at the top.
Not strengthening last summer was a disastrous decision by the Illustrious Owner, but he has the opportunity in this window to make amends. He could buy now and end up with a squad that will have had a tough half season together; will go through pre-season together, which should then enable us to seriously fight for a spot in Europe and the Domestic cups next season.
Its not impossible at all.
160 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM
West Lancs Geordie
Ba made us 5 million as the player picked up 2 million
161 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM
west lancs
i think you’ll find ba’s agents pocketed the 2m
162 Mancgeordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:51 PM
Sir braveheart that’s probably right I think they know who they want and have a set value for him if the club accept our bid then it moves on to wages. If not we wait he knows he will eventually either get him or he will go somewhere else but until the player turns us down there is no 2nd option. Its all a waiting game for him I suppose that’s why it takes so long to build a squad to get there and he hopes pardew will grow more experienced and better with the squad
163 sirtoongospel // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM
Pards wasn’t making excuses I don’t think. He basically said that a load of them aren’t good enough to play for the club. He has said it a few times now.
The strength of the SQUAD is not good enough and the onus is on the owner.
Pards is struggling because the players aren’t good enough. If however we have a run where our best are available but we continue to lose then fair enough. He has made mistakes but I can’t see anyone winning that game with the team we put out. Next week we will be a very different proposition.
164 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM
simpson and willo apart this is the best squad we’ve had in years, just need a manager to match it
165 Dannyo // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM
No excuses at Norwich Alan, no excuses.
166 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM
Catchy In Norway
Jan 05 – 6:40 PM
bills-son
your words
2 players short of a very decent team? why are we playing so poor if we are only 2 players away from a very decent team,
does it mean with the players we have now we are a good team?
Would a car work properly if you took out the carberetta and manifold?
2 top players could make the difference
Anyway i thought you, catchy/deadmanwalking/blog buster had promised to not come back on til pards was sacked
Woodsee
There actually is a third ameobi tomi he plays in sweeden!
167 Steven // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:54 PM
a sorry for the double post,
168 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Beattie25 // Mar 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM
To say that we played poorly because of injuries is admitting that the players coming in aren’t good enough.
Surely the whole point of having a squad is so that when injuries happen a player can slot in and do an equal job.
Ha ha
169 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Kimbo anita is a class midfielder however i do agree we would benefit from a tall powerful cm.
170 Fostino // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM
shocking display & i must admit i was very frustrated with pardew as well
willo seems to be incapable of a clean shit..very disappointing. his marking for both goals was shocking
tav aint making the step up any time soon
santon must be getting very frustrated as of late….big dip in recent performances
no creativity in midfield..marveaux should have started
way too many long balls….why cant we keep it on ground…why loft it to shole in the box all the time
2 brothers were very poor today.
best toon related player on pitch today was ex player lua lua…fact
171 Sir Braveheart // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM
@Nick9
“…think they know better than at least 52000 fans who actually all have a common perception on who isn’t cutting it, who is and positions that need strengthening”
Look at this blog. According to the few dozen people on here our worst plater today was Williamson or Sammy. Or Abeid, although he could also have been our best player. Dummet put in a good shift or was abysmal, we’re not sure. Tav was rubbish or solid at CB, Anita is a good prospect or not good enough because he’s too small. We should be playing 433, or maybe 451. Or is it 4231?
The fans really dont have a clue when you look at it. We can all agree on some things, we need a CB and a replacement for Ba, but the fans opinion is so divided I cant agree with that part of your comment.
172 stretchintoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM
Newcastle till i die.Keep kissing the badge x
173 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM
pard’s whole ethos is not to lose, rather than win. he hasn’t grasped it takes 1 win = 3 draws!!!
long ball, negative, shuts up shop, plays people out of position, makes daft subs, what’s not to like.
even allardyce has got the hammers passing it
174 kevymartins // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM
Are fans are a disgrace we lose a few games when were going through a tough period with losing players and all that and nufc fans start screaming pardrew out?
Ffs its not his fault .And if we do sack him who is going to come in?
We need to stop blaming pardrew and start getting behind are team ..I hope we actually pick a manager and stick with him and i’m fine with pardrew I think he is a very good manager and very intelligent.
175 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM
Beattie excellent post from last year, shows not all fans were fooled by the league table but still pleased with the results. This year Ba has stil been scoring the goals but the Defense let us down. It’s amazing how many people ignore performances when we win because its negative.
JB it is an injustice that we have graham Carr and are only a few players off having an excellent eleven and a bit of depth but don’t use him. If we had signed Debuchy in the last window and a cb then we wouldn’t have needed to play Anita, perch and ferguson at fullback. All have had a spell their this season. I think we are a winger, cb and two strikers off having a good side with depth. We’re wasting graham Carr and have lost ground.
Tads – I hope he is saving face with the press but I’m upset to believe he finds that performance acceptable.
176 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM
West Lancs – are you still in West Lancs? I’m just outside Leyland, until next week, than back off to Africa!!
177 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM
In defence of Mike Ashley I think he did a wonderful job steadying the financial ship. Putting a realistic cap on wages and preventing another Leeds Utd. However since he has spent little of the Carroll money (Cisse £10M) & in addition he has had funds for Best , Guthrie & Ba & bought Anita & Debuchy. There must be plenty in the pot given 50000+ at home matches & 5000 dedicated away fans. Hope he proves me wrong but I’m not holding my breath
178 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:02 PM
Brave heart I mean in the sense that we all recognised we needed a more rounded fullback, that Williamson was struggling for composure, that Kruls distribution needs working on, that cisse needs the ball at his feet in a central position. Not who played well or bad, we have some outlandish characters like kets who think abeid did well.
Kevy – a few losses? More than a few. We’ve lost as many as last season already.
179 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM
Fostino
willo seems to be incapable of a clean shit..very disappointing. his marking for both goals was shocking
Poor willo now he’s even being criticised for his bowel movements!!
180 KrulG4ME // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/618601005?-11058:809:t
Want a laugh read this pap
181 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM
Nick
What really gets me is the fact that we are not talking about making 20/30 million pound signings. If we had 30 million investment off Ashley Carr would bring in a handful of quality players who would make a world of difference, but because he wont do this we are left to play players who are simply not good enough.
Fail to prepare and you get ready to prepare to fail
182 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM
What a goal Persie lad.
183 seancavaz // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM
Time to face some home truths pards we where playing a team from a different division on our fringe players aren’t good enough for that league let alone the premiership. Time to be honest, shola, Sammy, Tav, perch, willo ain’t good enough and need to be shipped on
184 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM
Sure am Graeme me daughter lives in Leyland & me son (also mad Toon) lives in Lostock Hall. Don’t get to as many matches as I would like ( now Bolton & Blackburn relegated) but damn glad I didn’t go to Brighton. All them men (& women) should sue MA & AP for compensation & not just monetary, the trauma of having to sit through that shite with such a weak team who showed no fight (apart from Bigi & Anita), no passing skills or creativeness. Disgrace!
185 Lee Dodd // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM
We are out the cup so we can concentrate on The league . Also Get Out The Micky Mouse Cup asap aswell…. Get 3 More Players In. We will be Ok. WHY does pardew play the same old same old . HOOF IT UP THE FEILD TO THE PLAYERS WE DONT HAVE ??? NO WONDER HE WANTS ANDY CARROLL HOME !!!!
186 Spuggy // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:08 PM
Remy, sakho and sissoko and another top quality striker in the summer and all is forgiven.
Odds 100-1
187 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:08 PM
Beattie, during our winning run towards the end of last season I got slated on here for saying we had been outplayed for long periods and had won because of unbelievable goals from Cisse. I’ve long said that the biggest problem in our squad is the lack of a consistently creative CM who bring the other midfielders and forwards into play. Marveaux in the last few games has been far more effective than Cabaye in doing that. Cabaye is a good player but he is vastly overated on his Toon performances and Tiote has been a shadow of the player this season that he was last.
Midfield, not defence, has long been our biggest problem imo.
188 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM
Kevymartins sounds like you could answer this the way you are rambling on.
how can you explain even the youngsters showing no heart or desire along with not being able to do the basics i would expect from youngsters in non league football. On top of that regardless of who was on the field the players had no shape and looked long most of the time and so what is pardew playing at. Can anyone explain this please. Somebody just have a go because i am all out of excuses to even comfort myself.
189 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM
and pardew wants tomkins!!!
Kevy
we all support the team during the match but pardew should come with a health warning. this man could seriously damage the health of your club.
how can you say it’s none of it is his fault. it’s his team selections, formations, tactics, subs and team talks. Are you seriously saying norwich, swansea, stoke, reading, southamton, west ham, wigan etc have better players. than us
190 darrenfletcher88 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM
@proud u on here tonight??
191 Fostino // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:11 PM
town army down south
haha…what a howler…sorry about that
192 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:11 PM
I want us to win any bloody cup never mind saying we are best off out of it. 1950s was te last time we won a domestic trophy for god sake. How much more patience do NUFC supporters have left?
193 darrenfletcher88 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM
Words can’t describe how much I hate Man U!!!!
194 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM
JB – Around 15 million in the summer on Debuchy, Anita and a cb would have seen us in a stronger position that we are in now. I’m tired of fans thinking we’ve had 5/6 players out every league game when we haven’t.
Realistically if Simmo leaves we need a backup fullback. Preferably left sided because santon can play on the right. We need another cb so we have collo, new cb, Taylor with Willo, perch or tav fourth choice. I feel we are ok in central midfield but need another winger. Now Ba has left we need two strikers.
That’s: cb, Lw, st, st and possible a fb if Simmo leaves. That’s only three extra players considering Ba has gone and Simmo might. Judging by the average we spend on players it’s about 5m each.
195 aronkahh // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM
we need Morata ..i think he is cheaper thank Rémy and younger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTaql7u6ybk
196 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM
Fostino
Its habit mate, as most people use the word shit when talking about Willo
197 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM
You’re right as ever JB. Im surprised you havn’t mentioned the headless chickens yet. My girls have just got coats for Xmas & most of our lot today played as if they had their overcoats on. Still when Shola & Sami arrive at the Donkey Sanctuary next week they”ll be well looked after. Their training will be giving donkey rides on Blackpool Beach. Tom Ince wouldnt be a bad acquisition – would give another dimension.?
198 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:15 PM
West Lancs, I’m up off Lancaster Lane – not a million miles away!!
It was bad enough having to watch it here, with a cold beer. Not an impressive performance at all. Hope to God we get some seriously good CB’s pdq. The defence is in a desperate state of affairs and I feel really sorry for Collo – he looks completely bewildered poor bloke.
199 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:16 PM
Fostino
200 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:18 PM
Nick
Agree 100% mate, but I’d ship Willo out along with Simpson as neither of them are good enough not even as squad players
201 hotdog // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:18 PM
Well i was going to post earlier but i really dont know what to make of that game and still dont. I guess for me if i see another performance like that from NUFC i will be starting to think Pardew has to go. He still has me on side just. Last chance pards get the centre half in and your injured players back quickish.
202 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:19 PM
kevymartins @ 170
Try not to think it makes you look far more intelligent
203 Dearka // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:20 PM
when i saw the team sheet on the tv i was think why put out this team i think team would have had a better chance of winning, darw on at least give a good count of themselve if they lost
Elliot
Perch, Williamson, Dummett,Ferguson
Obertan, Anita, Bigirimana, Amalfitano
Marveaux
Shola Ameobi
sub, Krul, Ranger Tavernier Campbell Sammy Ameobi
at 60-70 min into the game bring on ranger or campbell for Shola Ameobi
204 NUFC FOR SALE // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:21 PM
I think I’d honestly like to see Williamson sold rather than sign someone.
He is the worst footballer ever to put on a black and white shirt.
I seriously cannot think of a single player that was as bad as this guy.
He’s a Championship mid to low table class centre half.
please or please get rid of him.
205 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:22 PM
There are rumours of us trying to get Sakho in, if thats is the case the likes of Willo and Saylor will not get in the 1st team.
206 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:24 PM
Dearka dummett is a fb don’t even think he can play cb
207 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM
If AP & MA are serious about strengthening why didn’t Sturidge come as part of the deal for Ba? I know the Red Shite acted quickly but we were aware well in advance that Ba was likely to go.
208 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM
JackButler
We need a double decker bus or two in front of our goal. It’s so blatent that we need defenders it’s unreal. Pardew and Ashley seem to be ignoring the obvious. Having said that, Charnley and co are supposed to be over France to tie up some deals.
209 Toonacious T // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM
We are going to have serious problems holding on to HBA if MA doesn’t show some ambition in this window. So far it is our top goalscorer out (who scored twice today for Chelski) and a FB in. As things stand now,that is a net loss to the overall strength of our squad. MA doesn’t seriously invest then any ambitious and hungry players will leave in the summer, whether we avoid relegation or not. The Toon Army deserves so much more than the drivel we are currently having to endure.
210 Jayden // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM
So, we all agree Michael Williamson (doesn’t deserve a nickname) is worse than Bramble?
211 Fostino // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM
we havent won away all season and pardew puts a weakened team out is what disappoints me. i can understand resting colo but we should have had marv starting with fergusion too. time was right for him to get a chance….abeid, anita & bigi all lack creativity so should not have all started together in midfield. kinda glad shola got red..that way at least he wont be starting next game & might push us into transfer market to get a much needed striker. the fans that travelled deserved a better team….hell, he lost me a fair quid too in the bookies
212 Dannyo // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM
Can we all just agree that there is a reason for why Willo should be 4th choice CB at our club and just leave it at that?
213 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM
Toon1978
I think Pardew knows how badly we need new players in, his problem is getting Ashley to stump up the cash for them
214 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM
Willo is not as bad as Bramble lol.
215 Fostino // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:30 PM
west lances geordie
once that release clause was activated…negotiation became completely out of newcastles hands
216 Mister Tuff // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:30 PM
Earth calling, Earth Calling Space Cadet Kevymartins please terminate your orbit of planet Zog and return to planet Earth.
217 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:30 PM
JackButler
Very true. I would say back me or sack me. There is only so much Pards can do. You can’t stick a soldier on a battle field with dodgy weapons
218 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:31 PM
“Well what can I say Chris has got his players playing well,,,,,,they’ve had a good record of late and deserve to be where they are in the table. Sadly we did not have the energy and you could see we were a bit leggy towards the end but I am confident that our long term injured players will make an immediate impact for the next game. There match sharpness will be up there with the best. To be honest I am running out of excuses but I think if we get a few players over the line…..one or two then I think I will be alright. No doubt I will not change my tactics and continue to hoof the ball, I’m clueless what can I say. But I am the manager of NUFC and I have the backing of the board so I am more important than any player at the club” – our illustrious manager
219 NUFC FOR SALE // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Williamson makes Bramble look like Pepe
220 Toonacious T // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM
West Lancs Geordie – The brutal truth is that Sturridge probably knew Liverpool were interested and they will pay him more, play better style of football than us atm and are heading up the league. Why would he want to come to us atm?
221 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Toon1978
where did you get the news that Charnley is out in France from???
222 croftus5678 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM
any blind man can see he did not want to win that game and tbh i do not blame him.
i would give it up aswell tbh concentrate on prem and depending on signings europe aswell but in honesty even a fight for europe may be too much for us.
he will win the fans back with some decent results in the prem alone if/once we get knocked out of europe and put a decent run together in the prem.
223 thespecialone-ameobi // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Well that was an amazing performance by ameobi
224 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Bramble was so much better than willo its just he made errors that are very obvious. Willo has made so many mistake they are just less obvious like not picking people up and being out of position etc
225 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM
Williamson makes Bramble look like Superman
226 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM
Willamson is defo worse than Bramble.
I would rather get razor ruddock on loan from celeb big brother & play him next week.
That’s how bad Willamson is.
227 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM
Willo is Boumsong’s hero
228 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM
And Razor Ruddock is about 20 stone nowdays
229 leefire // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM
To be honest what was he supposed to say “We were a load of shite”. For me Obertan summed it up. He cost us the first goal has no movement and fumbles like a school girl after running with the ball. He has had a couple of ok games but if hes gets two crosses in thats a good game. It amazes me that no body can deliver a ball into the box. For 30 grand a week I’d put then on the penaly spot with me knobend. We need to stay behind Pards even if he is making mistakes wish he would bring young Cambell on though.
230 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM
JackButler
It was in the Chronicle and Gazette that we have sent a delegation over to France to try and get some deals sorted out.
231 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM
Hey guys who realistically is going to pay good cash for Willo the Weak., he wouldn’t get in Blyth Spartans 1st 11 & I can’t agree with those of you who want Simmo out (unless we get a replacement) as we need cover for Debuchy. He just needs his trousers sewing up!We have had all these injuries to key players who is to say we won’t have more before the end of the season. I don’t think Raylor will be back this season.
232 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM
croftus
People spend hours traveling to away fixtures not to mention the cost of the ticket, a pie and the petrol…..and for their reward they are served up more drivel. Its the same old same old with no change.
233 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM
I nearly threw my remote through the t.v. when Williamson gave up chasing the attacker for their second goal and just started walking. Will never forgive him for that .
234 croftus5678 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM
willo has some good games aswell as makes a lot of mistakes but santon and collo not been playing well either so not just down to him.
think what is certain is we definatly need a cb or 2 and a captain figure as collo for me is no captain
235 Toonacious T // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM
Right, I am off to drown my sorrows….again. So fed up with this regime. We are quickly becoming a laughing stock….again. Gutted.
236 belgrade fan // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM
Lads, its not only we need 3 players, we need them in next 2-3 days. bcause they need to be ready for Norw. otherwise one more game with Willo, Perch… and now with only 1 striker. Norw will kill us
237 wreker16 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:38 PM
Beattie “the prophet” 25
238 Sawbuck // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM
Non of us wanted to get shed of Hoots. Now we got Octopussy.
239 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM
If Pards went public with what he’s clearly saying behind the scenes and just hinting at in his press statements he’d be sacked. Can’t blame him for having a self preservation instinct.
JB / Toon78
If we were investing in £4-6m players with even 3-4 players in the £8-12m category then we’d be fine.
I do think we need two in the back line at about £10m quality and dunno if Colo is still worth £10m, probly is as he was allstar EPL team last term. So we need another £10m CB and a couple of £4-6m defenders. Debuchy is one and we need another equally good
240 hotdog // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM
Im not even looking at Williamson anymore, im looking at the other players perofrmances. Bigi MOM for me. Our keeper did not have alot to do today. You have got to look at our attacking players but they were not helped by three defensive midfielders in Bigi Anita and Abeid!
241 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM
Fostino so we knew he would be going. That’s why a replacement should have been in the wings. We’ve done another Andy Carroll.! MA ‘s mentality means we must now sell again to raise money for a replacement although I don’t understand why as he must have cash in the pot from AC sale or there has been mismanagement of funds
242 Marty-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8381306/Arsenal-defender-Johan-Djourou-off-to-Hannover-96-on-loan-for-rest-of-season
We should’ve been in there and got him in for the rest of the season
We’re too slow
243 Sawbuck // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:43 PM
What’s it like having any owner that never communicates a damn to the fans. Well we know. ‘Ashley’ may as well be a codename from a Len Deighton novel, really the club may as well be a dummy corporation set up for more mysterious purposes. Just out of pulp fiction.
244 pizzicatochan // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM
The most important thing for now is to stay in EPL, so losing this game actually has to happen to stop the bleeding. We can’t risk of losing anymore players. We should eventually drop out of Europa too because of the same reason. I don’t want to start the next season with Championship again.
245 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM
Minimum
1 striker
2 centre backs (good quality EPL standard)
Willo not up to task, Simmo either and the two have them mgd to pull the shape out of our defense. No coincidence that most attacks come from the right and today was no different. We need balance in the side whether its the wings, win backs or general defense! Here hoping for a better result nxt week! HWTL
246 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM
On a brighter note the young lad Dummett looked good when he came on. Probably the only positive from the game.
247 GeordieToon89 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM
Interesting, this talk about us bidding £8million for a Dutch based player, Well Toby Alderweild hasnt travelled with Ajax to there Brazil training camp… could there be something in it
248 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM
hit ashley were it hurts
249 Mancgeordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM
@ croftus5678 yeah I don’t think he was that bothered about it, his priority was Norwich next week and have a go at the europa probably glad to be out and get a few weekends off and attack the other competitions we could beat Norwich and Reading all would be forgiven
250 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM
Marty-Toon
Just because a defender transfered to another club doesn’t mean we should have signed him haha. Djourou is one of the worst defenders I’ve ever witness playing PL football. He’s Williamsonesque.
251 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM
and keep hitting him
252 croftus5678 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM
@227
completely agree as i’m one of them but reality is we are just not good enough as a squad.
a year ago i was calling the hell outa obertan but now i think he should be a starter which bugged me so i looked back at it as i dont like being a critic and it doesnt look like he’s improved a great deal tbh just he look’s better than most of the others that are playing lol.
our youngsters are just not good enough bigi probably is as a squad player but none of them should be starting or even brought on unless we are winning given the choice.
marv and anita are my positives this season and was ba all others are worse than last year through form or injury when cabaye/arfa are back and even raylor we will look a lot better forward wise but we must get a cb or 2 pref with some leadership skills.
253 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM
Belfast
Thankyou!
Said that earlier dummett came on and looked a great little player
254 Wandering Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM
We have Pards who used to be a window fitter and Carver who used to run the Balloon Sunday team…what can you expect? We are on a sliding slope to relegation unless a change in manager.
255 Twatter // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM
It’s good that Dummett did well especially because he’s a much-needed leftback, probably our only proper one in the squad. I don’t really buy Santon at that position because he’s so right-footed despite doing a job there.
256 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM
At 6ft 4 Willo the Weak should win everything in the air & rarely be pushed off the ball. But he’s slow, lethargic & weak – Big Jessie would be a good nickname for him but he does follow a long line of ineffective centre backs including Marcellino, Boumsong, Bramble & even Kilcline & Peacock who wern’t good defensively they were just lucky to have a bit of quality round them.
257 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQAaT66cjKU ashleys targets
258 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM
When Saylor and Cabaye back nxt week….then Pards will have no more excuses……judgement day awaits…..for the sake of our club I hope AP can turn it round cos’ change of mgr at this time of the season could be seen as too little too late!
259 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM
“That team was a shadow of our best side. We did not have enough quality on the pitch and my overriding emotion is that, no matter how big we are as a club, we are in danger.
“There were too many young players out there for a club of this size and we need to get some bigger players, who can handle the pressure of wearing a Newcastle jersey.
“Whether that be in the form of signings or players back from injury, we will see. It is difficult to get players in this window, but we will do our best.
“We have held our hands up and admitted maybe we should have made one or two more signings during the summer.
“The appetite is there to strengthen the squad before the window closes.”
260 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Yeah I thought he looked good. One of the only players who looked like they gave a f***.
And Kets were & when have you watched Abeid ??
He’s been garbage every time i’ve seen him. He should be loaned out & if he refuses to go, they should show him the door.
261 Dannyo // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM
I can deffo see Tav and Dummet cover RB and LB respectively. Looks better than Fergy at FB position. He should stick to the wing, and he should also go at defenders more, the lads quick with good ball control.
262 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM
as most concurr even if pardew had the balls to go new gaffer would just be ashleys puppet period cut the head off the snake
263 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM
Belfast
Kets said that Abeid contributed more than Bigirimana today, and that Bigi should have been taken off instead.
264 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM
We could see Debuchy an Cabaye on the same pitch against Norwich. I also hope we have a bloody decent CB before that game because we are aweful at the back.
265 croftus5678 // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM
sorry to say but saylor is rubbish lately also he’s lost it since the injury.
in fact i would even take sol campbell at this point >.<
i say bring back the invalid woodgate to teach them all about defending
266 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM
A level head will get you a slagging and an objective view will have your head on a pike in this place lol. Dont mention a player without a qualifier like ‘crap’ or ‘championship quality’ or you may as well be his dad and/or agent. I shouldnt be surprised at the sheer volume of rabid nuggets that post on here on bad days but hoping NUFC players get injured and one nice racist inference last artice really sum u the weather here.
I do take notice of those who say Pardew isnt the man, Ashley should pay for players, tactics etc and support their arguments but it gets mentally taxing to wade through all the shouting and pick out those who actually talk sense about footballing matters in a way that suggests they actually watch and understand whats going on.
Injuries- just because Pardew keeps excusing it doesnt stop it from being true. While you may pour scorn on it, the fact is that returning players like Cabaye, HBA, Saylor and signings like Debuchy (and whoever else may turn up) is very likely to have a drastically improving effect on the cohesion of the team we field. Tactics – OK Pardew’s choices may be in hindsight flawed, but tactics are easily overshadowed by a lack of competent personnel in key areas to carry them out. Hoofball- you cannot convince me that a pro footballer can be robotically programmed to keep doing the same stupid thing even though he knows it has hardly ever worked, they have inherent skill, and free will. Same goes for passing and positioning, and definitely effort. If the players at the managers disposal are unable to do that what can he do? Unfamiliarity – 11 great players do not a great team make, and certainly not a great team when you take half of your great players out and stick a couple of reserves an one or two academy players in there. With the best will in the world, if you change the personnel every other week positional familiarity goes out of the window, I give you….’hoofball’!
Summer Transfer window – the risk that backfired. We can treat the Debuchy deal as last summers’ business tardily concluded, thats why everyone and his dog knew it was happening it was no scoop. Which makes this window effectively what we should have done last time. If nobody comes in as well as Debuchy, this will also be a fail.
I think Pardew has sent a clear message to the owners how precariously their business model can position this club. Its all a great idea but if they are not careful, it will blow up in their faces. Time to act quick, spend the money that seemed to be available for Carroll i the summer, there’s £12m right there for a striker and a packet of digestives.
And finally, Mike – dont betray Pardew and sack him because everyone will quickly see that you sold him out and hung him out to dry in public while you penny-pinched and bragged about being a hard man in business negotiations.
267 Dannyo // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM
Anyone else noticed that Santon did better defending at RB compared to LB today?
268 Marty-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM
TDS I agree he’s not the best but seriously,Willo esque??
I’ve seen him play loads and he’s had some howlers but he doesn’t pee himself every time the ball comes his way as does Willo
On a loan it wouldn’t be dangerous,getting foreign players in doesn’t guarantee anything as they usually need a few months to get used to the physical style of forwards in he PL
269 Fenham Boy // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM
What a f….. mess. An owner with a business model of buy cheap for a small squad and maximize financial gain. A MD in charge of player recruitment who thinks Williamson and Perch are top draw players and a manager who plays Shola up front alone with Obertan and Sami as wingers neither of whom can cross a ball. Other than Krul there is not one player since Saylor who looks anything like a premier league player coming through from the Development squad.
The only thing premier is the support the rest is a shambles.
270 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM
square pegs round holes accomodation thats the way to go
271 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:01 PM
Just how much French does Pards really understand. Could there be a communication problem now?
272 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM
Haha
I think kets had a dream about Abeid once, but he hasn’t realised it was just a dream.
That’s the only explanation I can think off .
273 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM
williamson not spacially aware=poor player
274 89Norcal // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM
I think some of you fearing relegation can relax a bit.
I can’t remember us having so many key players out and such a god forsaken fixture list in that 08-09 season.
were out during that ridiculous Utd-City-Arsenal-Everton chain, which happened just as were were returning to form after a poor start.
When Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Debuchy, Saylor and any other new players are in, there’s no way we are going down. Not with QPR, Southampton, Wigan and Villa around – all of which play poorly through the WHOLE season.
275 nufc786 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2257368/Newcastle-sign-Kevin-Mbabu.html
276 toonking // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM
do you lot that want pardew to leave ever follow england?
capello when he came had such a good history yet as england manager was awful. england them selve relied so much on the likes of rooney gerrard cole whilshire and their squad depth was rubbish so not even capello could have help or maclarean yet they both did very well with their clubs.
these players who we bringing in are from the french league and that is a catagry 2 league not catagory 1 like the premier league laliga and bundes league
last year was probably a year we which our team were unknown simular to how some teams are thought of when they first get promoted.
this year teams know how we play, we have a mass of injuries, could be suffering a simularity to fulham and stoke when they were in europa league, we just don’t know.
All we do know is we have masses of injuries, lack of confindence and an owner who is unattractive and doesn’t show much ambition
277 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM
Two steps forward – I think you put a bit to much emphasis on how much they need to cost. A lot of our players were bought for peanuts and did the job of a much more expensive player. If we can do more of the same with a cb I’m sure we will all Be happy.
I don’t think Pards would be sacked if he said he really wants funds for a couple more players. I guess it depends how he worded it or how much detail he went into.
I’m getting a bit desperate now with signings and have started to see losing tiote form 10m upwards as a good deal if it gets two players, that’s the mike Ashley mindset right there.
Would love us to get that cb and striker this window then look at the cover players in the summer. It would be nice if we could accommodate sissoko or Diame too but other areas are a priority and we don’t really have room for a cm.
278 popscott // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Blistering not the word, how the fk can we feel glad to be out of a cup, when it gets to a point when we are relying on shoal and the very fact that Ranger ever gets on the pitch then it shows me where we are, get the cheque book out fatty or like me lots of others will not renew. Fkin fuming, that was not a nufc team out there today? Fkin he’ll am havin a conversation with mesel that I want to have with them picks that are running our club!
279 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Tsunki (264)
Spot on BUT i don’t think Pardew pushes hard enough for transfers. I don’t know, i might be totally wrong. Who knows what goes on behind the scenes.
280 89Norcal // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM
toonking
But everyone thinks the injuries and the board are Pards fault
However Pardew has done poor work with the subs and younger players, and needs to take drastic measures now to boost the teams morale. He needs to stop the bleeding or the other factors won’t matter, he could still be sacked.
But it all honesty, I expected Brighton’s senior team to beat the side we put out there.
281 Puppet Pardew // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM
Graeme@156
‘Its not impossible at all.’
My thoughts exactly. Success is just two players away!! Folks should be happy in the knowledge that Noocarsel is better run and the team is playing better football than ever before. I mean how many owners have the acumen to overpay to the tune of £100m, appoint JFK, get relegated due to utter inaction, get lucky & bounce back but then sack a genuinely competent manager, get lucky and net £35m for an average striker, drop a blue chip sponsor for a nasty group of low life loan sharks, and then give me an 8 year deal? Classy, I say.
PS: Ask Bills-son, he knows all the answers, like me he’s a genuine believer in the Ashley method…
282 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM
dannyo – because he knows he cant cross and cutting in on his left is no option. So he had to defend, which makes a pleasant change of scenery for him.
283 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Tsunki maybe you can answer this:
mley how can you explain even the youngsters showing no heart or desire along with not being able to do the basics i would expect from youngsters in non league football. On top of that regardless of who was on the field the players had no shape and looked long most of the time and so what is pardew playing at. Can anyone explain this please. Somebody just have a go because i am all out of excuses to even comfort myself.
284 nufc debo // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM
What the f*** went on today, that team today was not set out to win. I understand the league is the priority but we could have went out today, hammered them and got a bit of confidence back for the lads and used it as a springboard for the next few games. So far this season despite what we’ve seen I’ve never thought we were in trouble, too many injuries, too many games affecting our form etc, not now…..that has to be hands down the worst, most inept, un passionate display I’ve seen from many a team in many a year. Theres no point me slagging off willo as 99% of us are on the same page and have said it before but although both goals were his fault they lost together as a team of numptys.
Sad sad day for the toon
285 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:09 PM
Pardew got given the job because he told MA that he could achieve things here under a very very tight budget.
Those are Pardew’s words, not mine.
So I’m not sure that the argument about Pardew not being backed really stands up – he knew what he was signing up for.
286 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Toonking – the category 2 league players you mention aren’t the problem, the problem is we don’t have enough of them to replace the category three players we currently have gracing our side
287 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM
pardew does what ashley tells him, simples pardew says express yourselves if in dought hoof it
288 gstadt // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM
Says it all when the bookies had Brighton down as favourites, not sure if it makes it more depressing
289 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:14 PM
Simple answer is that the younger players are simply not of the required standard, and I dont mean not ready yet, I mean not going to make it. Most of these are at an age when they should be having first team football if not here then in another PL or Championship team. Players like Ferguson, Vuckic, Abeid, Sammy, Tavernier, Ranger, Gosling… are not our future. I would be surprised if the likes of Inman, Dummett, Campbell ever make regular spots. We have a dire shortage of good serviceable players like Perch, who although some may consider to be sub-par, are decent understudies.
290 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM
Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Blame the players, not just Pards. They are the ones that can change things.
That’s some truth but…
????
What’s the manager there for??? Just for showing his face in training and media talk or having relationship with the owner?
Ant he suppose to motivated?
Ant he suppose to organise?
Ant he suppose to plan and instruct?
Ant he suppose to built the team he wanted with the resources he can get as possible?
Ant he suppose to bring the best out of the players he have got?
Ant he suppose to let them play to their strength or making sure that his instruction is followed through?
Are you saying the players are not following the instruction given or not able to follow the instruction?
Or are you saying, the team of players don’t need any formation or game plans.
or maybe you are saying..They can survive without any manager and play better without any manager to give them the wrong pressure, the wrong instruction, the wrong game plan?
Should we play ultra-defensive when we have to? Or should we play counter-attacking when we got the chance? Should we sit back or should we chase and defence from the front? Or should our players be playing marking for this game. Passing or Long Ball. or Mix, free role..
291 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM
Tsunki – sensible comments.
Injuries can happen & will again but can’t afford to carry sicknotes. Saylor regretably will always be injury prone & HBA seems to be following suit. Can only be regarded as bonuses when fit. Gosling will never make it offload him. We will get Cabaye, Gutierrez & Simpson back fairly soon & indeed Tiote from AN Cup but the owners do need to fill key positions i.e 2 good CBs, a quick forward (something different like Ince) & another FB (like Pieters). I’m not sure they will and feel it will be patch & make do with loan players. Wouldn’t be my policy only my opinion. Ps tactically Cisse is never a right wing back & young Ferguson is probably the best left footed crosser of the ball in the club. Is it time to give Streete a go at CB in place of Willo and recall Good from Bradford.?
292 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:17 PM
Dannyo
I have to disagree about tav he certainly looked a bit better at CB
but he got roasted today at FB and dine several times by wayne bridge!
He should be know where near the squad yet should be loaned out ASAP while simmo is still here to gsin experience or that boy is going nowhere fast
293 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:18 PM
Dannyo yes which was why he was swapped. If Dummet develops like he showed today then another season or two and he’ll be good.
Nick9
Should have specified a bit better. I mean that the players need to be that quality maybe not that fee. For example Debuchy is a £6m player and so is Santon, Colo was £10m and we need another £10m equivalent even if we got someone at the end of their contract for £6m. HBA is obviously more than a £6m player.
Williamson is a £1-2m player and Simpson the same imo. Cisse is def a £!0m forward and Remy too. Ba was NOT just a £7.5m forward – say £15m. Sissokho, Sakho and Toby are all £6-10m players imho but we might get two of them for say £12m given contract issues and pecking order at their currrent clubs. We need to pick up players at say 70% of their real worth to satisfy Batman he’s getting a bargain.
294 yorkymag // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM
I am afraid that the spirit has gone
Pardew has a massive job to turn it round
I don’t think he can and the pragmatic Ashley will realise after a loss a Norwich and give him the bullet
Who next is the question ,he Is a dead man walking
295 check the toastie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM
One thing has saved this club from relegation last year and constant battles with it and that was Andy Carrolls sale, if Big Andy didnt go we would be looking at our first team today. Thats the ambition of the owner.
I expect BenArfa next out the door to fund the next 18 months transfers.
Thanks Liverpool for putting the club in with a fighting chance.
296 StevieB // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:21 PM
What an absolute disgrace. Where do I start? We are a very small minded club being surpassed by the likes of West Ham, West Brom and Norwich.
Ashley, if you are not going to release funds for new players, the best thing for you to do is leave asap. Everyone knows our squad is waifer thin yet we qualify for Europe so there wasnt a better opportunity to add some real quality to the squad but you have failed us big style by not doing so yet you expect us to stump up the money for tickets and merchandise
Pardew, grow some balls. You should be knocking down doors to demand money to spend. Stop be a yes man and sort this squad out now. Why is it that all Newcastle fans can see our defence has never been good enough yet you persist with the likes of Williamson and Simpson who have cost us numerous goals all season.
Sammy Ameobi has some talent but appears to adopting his brothers cocky, arrogant, casual attitude
Shola is no more than a 30 minute player. Flatters to deceive far too many times
Aheidi, I havent seen any positives yet
Anita is underperforming at the moment but is improving and hopefully come good once he gets used to the power and pace of the English game
Tiote, I know he wasnt playing today but has been a liability and it might be a good time to cash in while he still has some value.
Conclusion… Delighted with the capture of Debuchy but that should have been concluded in August. We also need another centre half, a midfield player and another striker this transfer window and thats just for starters before doing the right thing by allowing some of the above mentioned players namely Williamson, Simpson, Tiote, Shola and Aheidi to find pastures new. I would give Sammy one more season and if his attitude and performances dont improve, then he should also be on his way
FINALLY, Ashley do the right and honourable thing and reimberse all those marvellous fans who travelled to Brighton for their ticket and travel costs for todays game
297 soundoid // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM
Tsunki (264)
Some good points.
Puppet Pardew (280),
Not to mention Ashley potentialy hurting his own Brand (Sports Direct), by rebranding the stadium. I could never work that one out.
298 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:28 PM
Villa have some “promising” youngers but getting tonked every week is destroying their confidence. That’s why there is no substitute for experience but it comes at a cost. A fine blend of both is ideal. Only Bigi & Fergie of our young players are worth a place on the bench. The rest should go out on loan. Don’t think Ranger, TavernierAmalfitiano, Abeid ,Sammy & Vukic are going to make the grade.
299 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM
Even Sir Alex Ferguson, have not heard of MICHU. (Spanish top Midfield Scorer).
If such was the case, how much does AP knows anything abt football knowledge is a guess?
How much technical know-how does AP knows is also a guess.
We want stability so AP got to bring someone in to help him. Someone to help him watch the game, how each player is playing from the the top-view of the stadium. Reviews from video, advise on how to improve.
Did any player often run out of his position and leave a big gap or etc.
AP needs someone to help him out. If he is staying. Some have to give AP some advise to consider.
300 woolerbill // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM
Ashley wants us to be a mid table team, Graham getting us some cheap players to sell on for double money, sky keep us solvent, ashley fills his pockets.
301 karasu // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM
Demba Ba’s dream start to his Chelsea career makes me sick to my stomach. I hope someone breaks his leg and retire him.
302 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM
This post is going to be long.
I’ve had my gripe with Pardew for a long time. I truly believe since the day he took over until now we have played awful football without any signs of progress.
Yes there has been times when we played well but since he has been here that has been few and far between. I shall now list the fixtures from ast season and this to jog some of your memories. (Please note that I will not give those from the 2010-2011 season as that was Hoots team and dressing room).
2011-12:
Arseanl (H) – 0-0 – Decent display and held Arsenal rather than other way round.
Mackems (A) – 1-0 (W) – Poor football from both teams settled by ‘over the wall’.
Scunthorpe (A) – 2-1 (W) CC – Awful performance saved by late goals.
Fulham (H) – 2-1 (W) – Poor performance but a win non the less.
QPR (A) 0-0 – Awful performance and lucky to not get beat.
Villa (A) 1-1 – Poor again but good goal from Best.
Forrest (A) 4-4 (W) CC – Terrible defending and lucky to win in ET.
Blackburn (H) 3-1 (W) – Ba hat-trick, first game played well.
Wolves (A) 2-1 (W) – Lucky to win after being bombarded for most of the game.
Spurs (H) 2-2 – Spurs better team Shola to rescue. Decent though.
Wigan (H) 1-0 (W) – Poor performance but Cabaye rescues us this time.
Blackburn (A) 4-3 (L) CC – Poor performance and lucky to take it to ET.
Stoke (A) 3-1 (W) – Great performance.
Everton (H) 2-1 (W) – Good first 30 mins poor for the rest.
City (A) 3-1 (L) – Outplayed by the better team but good spirit and fight.
Man U (A) 1-1 – Outplayed but good spirit.
Chelsea (H) 3-0 (L) – Unlucky to be beaten.
Norwich (A) 4-2 (L) – Poor abject performance despite injuries.
Swansea (H) 0-0 – Poor performance no creativity.
WBA (H) 3-2 (L) – Poor performance. Outclassed by WBA.
Bolton (A) 2-0 (W) – Outplayed and lucky to win.
Liverpool (A) 3-1 (L) – Liverpool much better team and disappointing game.
Man U (H) 3-0 (W) – Great performance. Totally outclassed Man U.
Blackburn (H) 2-1 (W) FAC – Poor apart from Ben Arfa wonder goal.
QPR (H) 1-0 (W) – Another poor performance and outplayed by QPR.
Fulham (A) 5-2 (L) – First 45 excellent, 2nd 45 abysmal.
Brighton (A) 1-0 (L) – Terrible.
Blackburn (A) 2-0 (W) – Outplayed and very very lucky to win.
Villa (H) 2-1 (W) – Poor match won by Cisse.
Spurs (A) 5-0 (L) – Complete capitulation.
Wolves (H) 2-2 – Great start terrible afterwards. Too complacent.
Mackems (H) 2-2 – Poor match salvaged by Ameobi in last minute.
Arsenal (A) 2-1 (L) – Went ahead and tried to defend. Played poorly.
Norwich (H) 1-0 (W) – Poor, poor performace but another win.
WBA (A) 3-1 (W) – Terrific 1st half performance, good defensive 2nd.
Liverpool (H) 2-0 (W) – Great performance.
Swansea (A) 2-0 (W) – Swansea better team, Cisse and Cabs the difference.
Bolton (H) 2-0 (W) – Benny magic but good show.
Stoke (H) 3-0 (W) – Super display.
Wigan (A) 4-0 (L) – Awful, woeful, pathetic .
Chelsea (A) 2-0 (W) – Chelsea better team, Cisse unplayable.
City (H) 2-0 (L) – City much better team.
Everton (A) 3-1 (L) – We were awful when it mattered.
Awful – Poor Performances – 30/43 games
Average – Good Performances – 7/43 games
Very good – Excellent Performances – 6/43 games
2012 – 13:
Spurs (H) – 2-1 (W) – Decent performance, good win.
Atromitos (A) 1-1 EL – Poor game and good free kick saved us.
Chelsea (A) 2-0 (L) – Outclassed all game.
Atromitos (H) 1-0 EL – Not a good performance.
Villa (H) 1-1 – Poor game, Benny wondergoal.
Everton (A) 2-2 – By far the second best team but salvaged a draw.
Martimo (A) 0-0 EC – Poor again.
Norwich (H) 1-0 (W) – Ok display, average at best.
Man U (A) 2-1 (L) CC – Poor display.
Reading (A) 2-2 – *see Everton*
Bordeaux (H) – 3-0 (W) EC – Excellent performance.
Man U (H) – 3-0 (L) – Thoroughly outclassed .
Mackems (A) 1-1 – Great display unlucky to draw.
Brugge (H) – 1-0 (W) EC – Decent/Average.
WBA (H) – 2-1 (W) – Lucky to win when WBA deserved more.
Liverpool (A) 1-1 – Decent showing.
Brugge (A) 2-2 EC – Not good but nice comeback.
West Ham (H) 1-0 (L) – Terrible.
Swansea (H) 2-1 (L) – Shocking.
Martimo (H) 1-1 EC – Not good at all.
Saints (A) 2-0 (L) – Embarrassing.
Stoke (A) 2-1 (L) – Better football but average display.
Wigan (H) 3-0 (W) – Good but helped by red card.
Bordeaux (A) 0-2 (L) EC – Another shocker.
Fulham (A) 2-1 (L) – Good in patches but overall poor.
City (H) 3-1 (L) – Good display.
QPR (H) 1-0 (W) – Bad performance, lucky to win.
Man U (A) 4-3 (L) – Good attack, bad defense.
Arsenal (A) 7-3 (L) – 70 minutes great, 20 minutes abysmal.
Everton (H) 2-1 (L) – Poor display.
Brighton (A) 2-0 (L) FAC – Awful, truly terrible.
Awful – Poor Performances – 20/31
Average – Good Performances – 10/31
Very Good – Excellent – 1/31
Overall:
Awful – Poor Performances – 50/74 = 68%
Average – Good Performances – 17/74 = 22%
Very Good – Excellent – 8/74 = 10%
Now you may agree or disagree but you will probably come to a similar outcome however you look at it! It is not good enough, if anything we are worse under Pards than Hoots.
One thing is for sure, we score and defend our lead, we concede and are bereft of ideas. That is the truth.
If we stay up this season, Pards should be sacked. He is taking us nowhere, even with all the quality at his disposal.
Time for something new and if Ashley has the balls to invest, surely he has the balls to find a better manager.
303 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Be prepared for :
1) Sack the Board, Sack the Board
Or
2) We want Pardew out we want Pardew out
or
3) You fat Cockney B…tard get out of our club
When nothing else significant buying wise happens in the window & the Puppet gets the blame & is sacked with no new apointment in before Feb 1st .
Three out of top six clubs in Prem have had same manager for 10+ years AlexF, Wenger & D Moyes any significance?
304 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM
NOTE:
Last season, MA was asking AP why was he not getting in a CD.
SO AP replay was, he needs to get his ideal CD not one that will be a laughing stock like David Luiz, (but he is doing well now, as it take times to settle for some players)
So who was to blame?
AP feels that Williamson was doing well!
AP feels that Colo marking will improve!
AP feels that Someone will head the ball out!
AP feels that Staylor will not get injure anymore.
AP feels that we have lots of players for the CD role.
No worries. Time is not ripe yet.
It was his decision!
305 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM
It was his decision.
It was his view.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1430635-newcastle-united-5-things-alan-pardew-is-getting-wrong/page/3
306 marcotoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM
Very poor performance today again, the kids were not up to the job and I don’t think they will be at any point. Also why was this game a lunchtime kick off? This gives the team less time to prepare and our loyal but long suffering supporters less time to make the longest away trip in the cup today. Full credit to the ones who did. The referee wasa disgrace, Shola was sent off for nothing, however I don’t think it would have made much difference. I’m not even thinking about the Europa League. As for relegation and Mr Pardew, remember for us to stay up there needs to be three teams worse than us. The likes of QPR, Reading and Southampton spring to mind. I’m undecided whether or not Pardew should go as if he did we would still have the same squad and who would we get in as his replacement? Although he is under pressure. We can now fully focus on our fight to stay up because that’s what it is and due to the numerous injuries to our stars of last season we need players in January and fast!
KTF
307 remember69 // Jan 5, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Now is the time for true Newcastle fans to do what they are famous for – show support for their team WHEN THINGS ARE LOOKING BAD!
It’s times like this when supporters show their true colors – I suggest the ‘fair weather’ supporters change their allegiance to a team that better fits their need to win mentality.
Pardew can only work with what he has available to him -you can’t blame the guy for lack of depth in the squad & injuries. I find it comical that the same folks that were lauding him as a great manager last year are now calling for his head – especially as they feel they know more about the game than the management team.
I urge the REAL supporters out there to continue to support the team – if we all play our part and REMAIN POSITIVE the team have a much better chance of getting out of this predicament.
I am frustrated as anyone else and am screaming for a win, but negativity helps no-one but the teams around us.
308 ober the line // Jan 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Wish we would get ourselves a spine of British players who have a bit of fight in them todays performance was abysmal.
309 ToonToon09 // Jan 6, 2013 at 1:12 AM
Pardew did not defend today’s display ?!!! He simply said what we already know A) We need to get senior players back and or B) Buy some more experience.
Did anybody notice that Krul, Colo, Saylor, Raylor, Guti, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse, and Ba’s replacement were all missing today ?!!!!!!
I am not defending today’s display but IF I could ever bring myself to bet against the Toon I would have won some money today ?!
Obertan and Williamson need to leave this club ASAP ?! Not a single ounce of talent or fight between the two of them !!!! Several of the youngsters on display today need to go out on loan or got rid of ?!
We need a Striker and CB b4 Wednesday ( we have known this since last season FFS).
The next 3 games could almost determine the outcome of this dire season.
Keep the Faith, with a full squad and another 2 top quality acquisitions we have a great 1st team.
310 ToonToon09 // Jan 6, 2013 at 1:18 AM
Oh, I’ve just noticed I forgot to add Debuchy to the long list of soon to be available legitimate 1st team players.
311 Les Grossman // Jan 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM
Check the toaster
What do you know! You shot me down for saying sammi Ameobi was not good enough!! He is worst player we have!! Today me, fans n pundits knew it!! Apologies prick or hang yourself
312 PapaToon // Jan 6, 2013 at 2:36 AM
U can’t expect guys who have been playing in the reserves or under 21s to gel straight away specially when the changes are like 8 players. 2 or 3 a team can handle not as many as the last game. So the result was not extra ordinary. Players need games together to get Rythem and gel as one unit
313 custurd // Jan 6, 2013 at 4:09 AM
With Krul, Collocini, Taylor, Santon,
Marveaux, Tiote, Cabaye, Cisse, Ben Arfa, now Debuchy, and so on, we have one of the strongest first teams outside of the top four… on paper, and they haven’t ALL been injured ALL season. Any moose from any division could manage that lot just by telling them to go out and play how they all know the game should be played. The mind boggles as to how one man can make them play so badly, but Pardew is managing it. I seem to recall he was sacked by Southampton due to low staff morale mainly. It’s happening again, but probably without the sacking…
314 ToonToon09 // Jan 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM
Cus-Turd
Can you please tell me how often ALL those players have played together ?????
Bet you are one of the Sack the board, sack the manager, cockney mafia out mob ?!!!!!
Jesuuuus, give Pardew a break, he hasn’t had many, he has worked with a skeleton squad ALL season and All of our senior players have either been out injured or suspended at some stage and then there’s the added workload of the Europa cup.
Keep The Faith
HTL
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