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• 1 marco2662 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM

  1st

• 2 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM

  P45 for Pardew!

• 3 CisseIsALegend // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:53 PM

  Disastrous

• 4 Toon XI // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:53 PM

  Season is on the brink. Next few matches decide our fate. If we come away with zero points then it is over.

• 5 spennymoor-mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM

  Ed what u on mate. Why post that vote for best player and then write this article u gimp!

• 6 Zangwill_Ho // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM

  W6 is really poor

• 7 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM

  yorkshire

  we weren’t doing any better when those players were fit and playing in the endless hoofball 442 of ba and cisse.
  we finally switched back to 433 but played people in the wrong positions, ie cisse right wing!!!

  Why do some people keep burying ther heads in the sand and accept mediocrity.

  Would take di matteo, blanc, solskjaer, poyet, martinez in a heart beat

• 8 Zangwill_Ho // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM

  =’W6 is really poor’

• 9 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM

  Sacking Pardew gets us no where as the board would fail to back who ever they brought in, it’s time people realised that our youngster are simply no good enough at the moment, but knowing this Ashley still refuses to invest in the team to allow the youngster time to develop.
  Go past our best 11 and we are a very, very poor squad

• 10 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:55 PM

  A cup run can create a buzz we needed a lift.

  Idiot Pardew.

  Relegation battle now.

• 11 yorkshire_magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:55 PM

  Why would anyone on this blog want to watch video highlights. Come On let it go for once.

• 12 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:55 PM

  p45 too good firing squad more like it

• 13 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:55 PM

  I feel for the fans who travelled today and followa ua through thick and thin. i find it painful enough to sit through 90 minutes at sjp every home game so to travel so far and witness that is diabolical and unrewarding.

  Even the commentator said it himself you need a squad in the premier league and that wasn’t a good enough performance for a Newcastle second string. If we can expect our second string to do even remotely good against a championship side then they aren’t fit to be a second string. How do we expect three or four of them to step in against the big teams in the league if they are that shambolic against a lower league side. The squad is a joke and it makes the whole Derek llambias purple talk even more of a joke.

  We need two first team players ASAP and then as many as four squad players which will no doubt take us two years to get. Mike Ashley is halting our progress and Alan Pardew couldn’t motivate a hungry dog to eat its dinner

• 14 nightfa11 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

  pardew must go…FFS…sack him before players start putting in transfer requests..

  & wilimason.. horrible horrible defender.. i was so happy when we got rid off smith, butt, etc..but now we have the same bullshit in wiliamson..

• 15 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

  Rotonda heights /

  its a flying visit,,

  just wanted to here the muppets defending pardew,,

  good to see the still here,, they make up better excuses than pardew,, i lve the one , “our second string”

  poor

• 16 CisseIsALegend // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

  How on earth did we buy debuchy ?!?! Did he not see any of our performances this season?

• 17 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

  Rotonda

  I think anyone with a few brain cells can see that Pardew is not going anyway. I would hope that those defending him are doing so because they’re just desperate to see things in a positive light – rather than they actually believe everything’s OK.

• 18 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

  so ashamed of being a geordie ffs

• 19 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

  Looks like Pardew didn’t want the complication of an FA cup run….

  And Kets, Abeid played! And got hooked off at half time….

• 20 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

  It does not matter who manages NUFC. The board will not back them. Don’t know what people expect. Why not blind fold Pardew, tie his hands behind his back and tell him to get on with it.

• 21 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

  Seen this earlier, makes sense.

  If you turned up to work, but didnt put a shift in, slacked off and didnt meet any objectives, you’d get critisism. If you keep doing that you get sacked.
  Is that your fault or your managers?

• 22 check the toastie // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  I believe if Pardew took over at Barcelona he would have them in the bottom half of the table in 18 months, he simply doesnt know how to get a team playing good football.

  It is pretty much as simple as that.

  He is an absolute duckegg.

• 23 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  Was last season a dream or did it actually happen ?

• 24 yorkshire_magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  @rotonda. I agree that pardew is not the man who can take us to any sort of glory. We need a new modern manager. Hell even Gus Poyer would do better lol.

• 25 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  wonder what poor old hughton makes of it!!
  sackd for being 11th

  Fatigue my a..e ! W’eve gone out of both cups in round 1

• 26 brighter // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  Debuchy said….. Should i play in this team??

• 27 yorkshire_magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  @rotonda. I agree that pardew is not the man who can take us to any sort of glory. We need a new modern manager. Hell even Gus Poyet would do better lol.

• 28 Klam3r // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  There are so many managers that are better than Pardew, and some would even cost less in wages. I also belive there are lots of managers willing to manage our squad of players under this regime, and do it a h3ll of a lot better than Pardew.

  If i were a scum fan i would write the opposite. “Give Pardew time. He’ll learn. Don’t judge him before the season endes etc”. Well, if not relegated we will loose some of our players. Even our captain has said we play destructive. That says it all!

• 29 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

  Why are people going to turn up to watch this team?

• 30 stripes1009 // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

  Toothless, spineless, clueless & useless. Championship here we come!!!!

• 31 tequilamag // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

  Caychy how many of that team would you pick if everyone was fit? Of course it was a second team.

• 32 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

  cant u see just stop going ass wipe of an owner will realise

• 33 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

  Catchy

  F off you troll

• 34 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

  John Tudor -
  We’re all ashamed you’re a Geordie.

• 35 t00ntime // Jan 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

  Omg u guys are the most fickle fans ever. You all blame
  Pardew like thousands blame the one we speak so highly of. Remember fans wanting a certain manager to be fired because we didnt do aswell as fans thought. Sir bobby.

  Firing pardew wud be stupid. You all blame long ball but the last 3 games our Ateam hasnt played hoofball. They have passed it around and we have lost cause of defensive lapses we can only
  Hope debuchy starts to fix that problem.

  WAIT TILL NORWICH WHEN WE HAVE (almost) FULL TEAM. We will pass it around (again). Then judge pardew.

  We had a bteam
  (perch, tav, elliot, bigi, obertan, shola, sammy, abeid all b team (and williamson is just useless)) pardew didnt want the win imo

• 36 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM

  This performance was a typical feeble performance by Newcastle in the FA Cup. Look at the stats since we last won the trophy nearly 60 years ago. The League Cup record is even worse. And the league isn’t up to much either.

  The club can change its managers, its owners, its board and even its players but the results are always the same in cup competitions.

  That old fool in Manchester had a point. The size of our crowd and fan base especially away from home masks an almost total failure by the club to win honours.

  We keep on supporting the club because it’s our heritage, in our blood, in our character but we have to acknowledge that we are exceedingly poor at winning trophies. Todays result is just another poor result in the cup alongside a long list of poor results.

• 37 ajcrawfs // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM

  Are fringe players are awful but or first team is amazing! Unfortunately we are having to rely on the fringe players for now

• 38 thai-mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM

  it’s time now to cut our losses now, we must sell all our top earning players in january and prepare for the championship, because there’s no way the 1 or 2 players pardew wants is going save this lot from the drop

• 39 Cisse09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM

  @conaldo… Gr8 point! Of course it’s the gaffas evry time!

• 40 spennymoor-mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM

  Jackbutler

  Howay mate smell the smelling salts!! I backed pardew. But now just watching his interviews make me cringe. He is clueless mate

• 41 kingcarty // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:01 PM

  @toontime

  We’ve had a full squad with the Cabayes, Ben arfa’s.
  We were crap then, struggling at home against teams like Aston Villa and making Reading look like Real Madrid.

• 42 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:01 PM

  @ conaldo im more of a geordie than than been one longer seen desparete times as well as fa cup wins so button it

• 43 sirtoongospel // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  Yes we had only 2 starters in Anita and santon, and with Marv and Elliot on the bench, we had 4 lads who are at the right level. Bigi deserves his spot on the bench too. The list of players missing we all k know, but we have a squad of around 28, and if these ALL 28 should be Premier League standard. If they are not, then why not?

  We have too many who are not at the level needed. Our first 11 is good, plus about 3 to 4 subs when everyone is fit. So over half of our squad isn’t good enough. We got away with it last season, but not this one.

  2 players in this window, 2 or 3 more in the summer.

  Oh, and I cannot wait to see Cabaye and Taylor back. Along with Debuchy, Colo, Cisse etc we can win games. Then HBA to add with Jonas and dare I say Remy? Surely we can start winning?

  Finally, why didn’t Cheick play? Chelsea are playing their African boys?

• 44 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  conaldo

  He’s paid the big bucks to motivate the team and get results.

  if he gets the glory for last year he has to take the blame for this season’s never ending farce. You’re an intelligent guy, you can see that.

• 45 toonluvva // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  If this shambles of a performance hasn’t shown MA/DL just how deperate we are for investment in the squad then nothing will.

  OK, some will argue that we sent out a second string side, but if injuries or suspensions go against us for the rest of the season then those on duty today will be the only ones that we can call on.

• 46 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  Yep, it’s the players who did not turn up today. I expect Ameobi to stick it in the net, not Pards. Pardew should walk with the lack of investment. Someone was shouting for KK to come back…..that explains it really. Why would he come back to work for Ashley. Ashley has pulled us out of the mire and saved the club for us which is a blessing but he won’t buy enough players to compete.

• 47 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  not a penny more from me tosspot

• 48 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  how can you explain even the youngsters showing no heart or desire along with not being able to do the basics i would expect from youngsters in non league football. On top of that regardless of who was on the field the players had no shape and looked long most of the time and so what is pardew playing at. Can anyone explain this please. Somebody just have a go because i am all out of excuses to even comfort myself.
  * Ramboreilly

• 49 hugenufcfan // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  The performance of the players, what can i say? pardew hang your head in shame you bas**rd. what sort of team did you put out, worst again the hoofball tactics. I mean i cant believe you can be so daft and stupid.
  and the donkey brothers i mean wtf were they doing on the field. Ranger made more impact in his 20 mins than the useful servant of nufc made in the whole match.
  This -vety is gng to spread like wildfire and we are in for a doom.
  This is what pardew should have done. fielded a stronger team or at least played a more attacking passing game. Instead the hoofball, i mean wtf is wrong this bas***d.
  I’m just getting used of this shit being played.
  and the poor nufc supporters, travelling 700 miles to watch this shit being played. Watching on tele itself was frustrating cant imagine what they’re feeling now.
  God save NUFC.

• 50 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  I’m starting to turn on Pards, never been a huge fan, but hasn’t done enough wrong to warrant some of the pelters he gets, but……

  I am not bothered about being out of the cup, are squad is thin, we are struggling and the less games and distractions the better. But why play what was essentially the best team available barring Krul and Marveaux? Give more kids a chance see if campbell, streete, amalfitano, etc step up to the plate.

  IF, and I guess only club staff now the truth, that Cisse and Colo both have knocks, and Taylor isn’t ready just yet, why play the only 2 senior centre halves and the only senior striker today? Commentary on SuperSport said Perch went off with a knock. Shola will miss Norwich. Are Cisse and Colo going to be fine, I guess so, but no room for error here now.

  As for the actual performance….an absolute shambles. Not one player looked to me like they should be in a Premiership team. I’ve stuck up for Sammy in the past, but he was woefully inept against players he should at minimum be a match for at his age.

  Something needs to change here as the rot looks to have well and truly set in, and be right through to the core now.

  “Ranger will never play again” really Pards?? Ho about giving Campbell a go. We cried out for something different and the solution certainly wasn’t to through another big and strong centre forward on. Bring Campbell on to play on the shoulder. If you are going to insist on hoofing it then play someone else on the shoulder for flicks…..

• 51 Cisse09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:03 PM

  @check the toastie.. Aha. He would be putting Messi in goal! Aha!

• 52 nightfa11 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:03 PM

  i would take dimatteo.. someo0ne mentioned that matteo start p[laying attacking when RA bought him 80mio worth of attackers..hey..check our team..its worth way more then that:

  krul
  debuchy, colo, taylor, santon
  cabaye tiote anita
  hba cisse marveaux

  plus dimatteo is used of not having a word in who to sign..obeying the owner..

• 53 kingcarty // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:03 PM

  Pardew worries me so much because of lightly he takes the situation.
  His interviews stink of someone who is in complete denial.
  “The youngsters did well today” he says.
  How the hell has he came to that conclusion then?
  We were shocking at best.
  Mike Williamson, the captain of the club I love, absolute joker.

• 54 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:04 PM

  Rotonda – the players performing well got us where we were last season. That allowed Pardew to try new things which worked. Players haven’t performed consistently yet

• 55 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:04 PM

  @ 50 exactly

• 56 TurkishFan101 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:04 PM

  Btw any manager would actually come to manage us with our fully fit starting XI players like Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Santon, Coloccini. Debuchy, Cisse , Anita, Krul if got Remy, another CB a manager like solskjaer, Blanc or martinez can get us to top 5 position where as Pardew would keep us midtable, relegation surrivers. Cause even when

  @Rotonda heights suggests that we were still playing hoof-ball crap and tactically bad even when we had first team fully fit goes to show Pardew cant simply manage us and should go. With players like that I always think to myself how did we get them to come here under a stupid manager like Pardew when he plays every player in the squad out of position apart from Krul, well I would not be surprised if pardew played Krul as CM for hoof-ball to Shola…

• 57 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:05 PM

  toontime

  please stop comparing Pardew to SBR. Just stop

• 58 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:05 PM

  The one positive from today is the players picked to represent NUFC have shown beyond doubt, that they are unable to match the expectations or opportunity given to them.

  With the exception of Anita and Bigi, the other players should not be surprised to receive their P45?s at the end of the month. They are our “Back-ups” and should be well capable of giving Brighton a good game – they didn’t come close. An absolute disgrace to the shirt they were wearing.

• 59 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  I don’t believe that Pardew is blameless, I just don’t think he is as much to blame as people are making out.

• 60 woodsee // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  I swear if i saw Williamson drowning in the wansbeck ,id throw him an anvil

• 61 ramboreilly // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  You cant say pardews blameless,most the players were lacking in motivation,obertan was gutless.Abeid,tav,ranger not good enough.Obertan,the two ameobis,willo have not or will never be good enough.Ashley has let down pardew big time,both must take the blame

• 62 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  it looks like he simply didn’t want the extra games in the FA cup.

  Played a reserve team so as not to complicate things.

• 63 No Plain Saylor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  Anyonew else think we got rid of the wrong young winger? We kept sammy and sold lua lua. He destroyed santon when he came on, can go both ways, good cross. Probly should have kept him..

• 64 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  Rotonda heights @ 44

  Yep, absolutely right. Pardew quite rightly took the plaudits last season but must take some of the blame this season. I say ‘some’ because this season we have had almost our full first eleven out with one thing and another whereas last season we didn’t. Big difference.

• 65 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  @Conaldo (The Wizard…Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner)

  Seen this earlier, makes sense.

  If you turned up to work, but didnt put a shift in, slacked off and didnt meet any objectives, you’d get critisism. If you keep doing that you get sacked.
  Is that your fault or your managers?

  Depends how long the manager puts up with it and if he changes things …

  Sack the inept twat.

• 66 JackButler // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  spennymoor-mag

  No matter who is in charge Ashley will not back them, he can only use what is available to him, our fringe players are not good enough, our youngsters need to go out on loan but cant as they are needed to cover such a small squad.
  We could have RDM or anyone else thats flavour of the week in charge and it would be the same story.
  Vent your anger at the man that just gave Pardrew an Eight year contract

• 67 Shiremagpies // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  anybody else feel mike williamson was class today???…. this is of course a complete laugh btw.

• 68 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  Most pub team players are better than Willo.

  Pardew had to take Abeid off because of his yellow card. He was more influential than Birigmiranmana.

  Ranger is miles better than Shola. Xisco is better than both of them, but never plays. It’s a joke.

  Just because the Ameobi’s are geordies doesn’t mean they have to get picked all the time.

• 69 yorkshire_magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  The worst thing was Fat shola effin ameobi got sent off and he gets a pat on the back from pardew!

• 70 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  Conaldo (The Wizard…Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner

  I agree.

• 71 check the toastie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  Pardew’s record if the FA Cup as manager of NUFC.

  Outplayed by the mighty STEVENAGE.
  Ouplayed twice by the mighty BRIGHTON.

  Now all the people defending Pardumb, this is not the first game we have played shit and have shown to have no clue, it is a recurrent theme.

  SACK THE CHARLATON.

• 72 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  conaldo

  i give up, yes none of it is pardew’s fault whatsoever. happy now?

• 73 spennymoor-mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  T00ntime

  You back pardew then at the end of your comment u put b team then your opinion that pardew didn’t really want to win the game??

  Says it all mate no team wants a manager that doesn’t want to win a game!! U as deluded as he is like!!

• 74 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  Pardews tactics – to get through the game with what he had without jeopardising anyone for Norwich and give some of the youngsters a runout against accomplished opposition, the kind we didnt always manage to beat when we were in the championship btw. It wasnt win at al or even any cost it was what it was. Bringing out the Pardew out chants now just weakens your already terrible argument for replacing a manager at the most awful time ever. The next incumbent stupid enough would walk into a job with at least half a dozen top players out, and a mismatched squad from which to cobble a team not used to playing together. I would hope MA wouldnt listen to such excitable drivel, and I am sure he wont, because not only would Pardew be unjustifiably gone, but Ashley would rightly have to face the wrath of the fans for selling the guy out.

  This is why I hate matchdays when we lose it was the same from the first one, never mind the 5th or 7th. Sometimes it is as simple as a ton of injuries and the barrel scrapings of a thin squad.

• 75 hugenufcfan // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

  someone asked me a pertinent question so who would you have replace pardew.
  Ole gunner Solskjaer
  http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/01/05/who-was-newcastles-best-player-in-2-0-loss-at-brighton/comment-page-2/#comment-943774

• 76 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:08 PM

  today that team were too slow in build up too arrogant in possession no creativity 11 kids could have done better

• 77 tequilamag // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:08 PM

  Kets your quite right Abeid was better than Messi today

• 78 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:08 PM

  yorkshire_magpie

  Sending off was a f…ing shambles. Cheating at the highest order and the ref fell for it. I do not rate Ameobi but he was unfortunate today to get sent off. SHOCKING referee.

• 79 Tinman // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:08 PM

  Backups? Some of them were yes. Santon, Williamson, Perch, Bigi, Anita, Obertan and Ameobi have all played a lot of premier league football this season. Sammy, Abeid, Tav and Elliott have all played Europa league this season.

  We only actually rested Cisse, Collo and Marv.

• 80 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM

  Rotonda -
  As I said,
  Pardew isn’t blameless,
  But there are loads of other factors that need to be considered.
  To say it is all because of Pardew is just foolish.

• 81 tequilamag // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM

  John Tudor, are you blind most of the team picked today were kids. The only 2 who would get into the team with a full squad available were Santon and Anita.

• 82 nightfa11 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM

  ed, write an artickle that pardew should be sacked..& wili sold.. put some pressure on the board..

• 83 Jayden // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:10 PM

  Am watching the Ping Pong on SS2. Much more entertaining than the match earlier…

• 84 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:10 PM

  No Plain Saylor

  Lua Lua is similar to Sammy though – can beat a man but very little else. I’d have got rid of both though lol.

• 85 toontillidie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:10 PM

  @ 30 championship lol ??

  The way we are playing at the minute within two seasons with pardew at the helm we will be playing in npower league 1

• 86 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:10 PM

  Ketsy – ‘Birigmiranmana’? thats a new one. Has he come back from loan or have we just signed him?

• 87 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:11 PM

  Tsunki (74)

  The best post i have seen on here in ages….well said.

• 88 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

  as i said before he could have played a bunch of kids there all in first team squad top and bottom no heart no fight =crap

• 89 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

  “Newcastle were playing better with 10 men than they did with a full complement of players.”

  If this was such a case, without even watching the match, anyone would have know that, there was something NOT RIGHT with team setup, the formation, the instruction given.

• 90 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

  under 17s

• 91 wreker16 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

  I thought Anita and perch were not too bad and then bigi. I thought perch was composed and calm, Anita was good as usual and well, bigi was the next best not that that’s saying much

• 92 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

  tsunki

  i guess the bit about when we had cabs, benny, Tiote, saylor and everyone fit and we were still crap in a long ball 422 with ba and cisse went over your head.

  look at the players and pardew’s body language they’re not together as a unit. Anita and Bigi bust a gut but the others, the less said the better .

  Every match it’s a different excuse.

• 93 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

  Our second string side was almost as spineless as the WUMS and trolls on here this afternoon.

  Batman and Robin and their “purples” – doesn’t that tell you so much about their ability to run a football club ?

  Our second string players should be young and hungry guys knocking at the door and busting a gut to get a starting place. They should be grasping the chance they are given to play Europa and FA Cups. They should be working for international places at U19 U21. Overpaid, undermotivated and ordinary.
  They didn’t turn up today. And we lost shape after the sending off so the coaches need to take responsibility too.
  Get rid and rebuild a reserve team that can step up when we need them.

  If Abeid, Sammi, Oba, Ranger, etc., are the answers WTF is the question ?

  Bigi is the role model for me, and Dummet has def been grafting at the Buddies.

• 94 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:13 PM

  Tequila -
  I said the exact same a couple article back, the people just ignore it because it doesn’t fit their argument.
  No use trying to reason with them.

• 95 daztoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:13 PM

  No excuse even our so called young professionals can’t be motivated for a 3rd round fa cup tie live on tv against a championship side.Pardew has to take the blame or sack all the coaching staff

• 96 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:13 PM

  So many are complaining about the players Pardew put out today but who else was there? Name me a side better than the players he had available today.

  I’m not defending him but as the commentator said that he could field a very strong premiership side with the players not available to him.

• 97 toonluvva // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM

  Now that I’ve had a little time to get over the result, I’m trying to seek out some positives, Unfortunately, I cannot find any. Like many previous posters I’m gutted at the MANNER of how we went out. No passion, pride, shape or ability.

  Before kick off I was hoping for a draw reasoning that with the team selection we looked as if Pardew did not want to risk the purple players, but I felt that a defeat would just heap further pressure on the team.

  So now here we are, out of both cups, with a side that looks beaten before they even kick off. We really need good reults against Reading and Norwich, but what will Pardew do when the Europa League rolls around again?

  I honestly feel that we are in a much worse position than the relegation season, investment must I repeat MUST be made but I don’t expect it from the chuckle brothers.

• 98 nightfa11 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM

  Tsunki 74

  i disagree..it shows that noone respects pardew anymoree..noone of the players.. so ok..stick with him & in summer you will see players handing in transfer request..but then ppl will say how players have no loyalty..

• 99 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM

  2 steps

  exactly you’d think they ‘d be busting a gut to impress and get involvd. look at lua Lua for them when he came on.

• 100 tequilamag // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM

  Conaldo, your right mate trying to reason with these people is utterly pointless. The hysterical reactions are beyond pathetic,

• 101 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM

  No Plain Saylor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

  Thought the exact same mate. Lua Lua looked ten times better than any of our youngsters & we let him go.

• 102 hugenufcfan // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM

  Tsunki (74) – agree with only a little of what you say.
  Dont you think this defeat is not going to demoralize the team further? it’s no brainers.
  and i dont think agree with this saving the players for the norwich game. i mean these guys are getting paid fortunes every week to go out there and play their hearts out,
  and we have a manager who thinks it’s otherwise.

• 103 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM

  slank

  campbell and amaltifano for the ameobis for a start

• 104 KrulG4ME // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:17 PM

  Its a shame that the only toon youngster to show any ablity today was Lua Lua. This is the trouble with loan deals the youngsters get a taste of actually playing and want a permenant move. Our youngsters need experience but its a catch 22 situation because they will then want the move. Lua Lua was fantastic today well done lad petty you were in the wrong colours

• 105 Shiremagpies // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:17 PM

  anybody got any idea why it took 70 mins to bring marvaeux on, apart from pardew is clueless when it comes to tactics

• 106 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:17 PM

  Rotonda

  It’s not a different excuse every week – it’s the same excuse every week.

  It is what it is. We have an average manager who did very well last season because he was backed well in the transfer market (not in terms of money, but quality). This season we still have an average manager who has been hung out to dry by the owner and not backed – and hence we’re performing badly.

  It’s all very very simple, and nothing is going to change.

• 107 KrulG4ME // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

  Has to be said its a disgrace Ranger got a chance ahead of Adam Campbell

• 108 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

  Tsunki

  We’re still out of the cup … without trying.

  The City of Newcastle’s team put out a below strength team in the FA Cup. Pardew’s decision.

  I’d sack the twat. What.s that 2 wins in 14. Wigan (lucky) QPR at home!

• 109 geordie1892 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

  No point in sacking pardew. Stick with it !

  HWTL

• 110 nufcjohn // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

  I DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE BLAMING PARDEW. WE HAVE NO STEVEN TAYLER CABAYE BEN ARFA COLLICHINI CISSE. I MEAN THTS HALF OF OUR SQUAD OUT WITH INJURIES.

  MIKE WILLIAMSON IS SHITE IF U ASK ME HE IS TO BLAME HE IS LAZY AND SLOW AND WOULDNT EVEN GET INTO BRIGHTONS TEAM

  WE HAVE BROUGHT IN DEBUCHY AND PRDEW HAS SAID TAYLOR AND CABAYE WILL BE BACK FOR NORWICH AS WILL CISSE AND COLLICHINI. THEREFORE WE WILL ONLY BE MISSING TIOTE AND BEN ARFA.AND JONAS SO HERES MY TEAM FOR NORWICH

  KRUL
  DEBUCHY TAYLOR COLLICHINI SANTON

  ANITA PERCH

  OBERTON CABAYE MARVOULOUS

  CISSE

  THEN BRING IN A STRIKER PLUS A CB WOULD BE GOOD AND IF WE BRING IN EXTRA CM SOME ONE LIKE SISSOKHO WOULD BE A BONOUS. THEREFOR HERE WOULD BE UR TEAM

  KRUL

  DEBUCHY CB COLLICHINI SANON

  ANITA TIOTE CABAYE

  BEN ARFA REMY

  CISSE

  THE NEW CENTRE BACK SHOULD BE EITHER SAKHO OR DOUGLAS OR ALDERWIELD AND BRING IN SISSOKHO

  HERE ARE OUR SUBS

  ELLIOT
  S TAYLOR
  SISSOKHO
  OBERTON
  MARVOULOUS
  SIMPSON AS HE IS INJURED SO WONT BE SOLD
  BIGRIMANA

  COME ON GUYS LETS JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WINDOW CLOSES

• 111 Tinman // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

  Even Poyet had a laugh at Pardiolas tactics in post match interview ‘When people come and play 4-4-2 they make it hard for us but they came with 4-5-1 and sit back so we can play’

  It was something along those lines, exact quote doesnt seem to be up on net yet!

• 112 Mister Tuff // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:19 PM

  apologies repost.
  I precede my thoughts with the fact that this season the PL is more important than the cup.
  Having said that there is now another “video nasty” for the TV companies on FA cup days to heap further embarrassment upon us for the next 20 years.
  The pundit in the studio with Strachan hit the nail on the head by saying words to the effect that some of the players should really assess whether they are good enough to play for Newcastle.
  Who has been assessing these guys over the last couple of years to ensure they are good enough – (surely by professional knowledge of the standards of others) It has to be the coaching staff – not Ashley or Dastardly.
  A lot seems to be wrong behind the scenes I have serious doubts about the future progression of the club under the present regime.
  When the all the re-enforcements arrive and the crocked return for selection we should be ok this season. I do fear what the future will bring under the current coaching regime.

• 113 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:19 PM

  Now we know why Caps are insulting and not needed.

• 114 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:19 PM

  and your knowledge of football far outshines anyone elses. its your opinion and mine is youve watched far to much paint drying

• 115 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

  Rotonda heights @ 103

  How many starts has campbell and amaltifano had that would have them ahead of say Sammy ?

  Are they any better than almost all the players today (Bigi and Anita excluded) ?

• 116 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

  A lot of young kids playing for us today are not ready. I am concerned with the look on Krul’s face at the final whistle.

• 117 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

  The comment that not many of Brighton’s team would get into ours illustrates why some should probably refrain from commenting until they understand what ‘team’ means. As a unit, Brighton are a reasonably accomplished and familiar team, who with a bit of effort could reach PL status via the playoffs if not by a first/2nd place finish. Our team today was not an accomplished unt by any means, and rather than say santon this and anita that, try saying it from the point of view of playing Dummet, Abeid, Ranger, Tavernier…….. what really did you expect? I mean, really? Is this your argument for sacking a manager?

• 118 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

  I get the natural aversion to sacking Pardew – most of us bought into the stability mantra – but my God, let’s face facts: last season we had good players, many of them unknown quantities, in a relatively consistent first 11. How many wins were by a single goal? We deserved our 5th spot but i didn’t come away from that season with one single instance in my mind of Pardew’s tactical nous – his players performed to their ability, there was undeniably good spirit in the squad and we got a bit of luck here and there.
  But just as one example of what worries me about Pardew: countless times now, i’ve heard him talk about young players who “shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team” – aren’t we, as a club, dedicated to producing our own players via the youth set up? I take the point that the investment is woeful, and perhaps the youth coaching as well, but i fear Pardew is out his depth if we are serious about being a regular challenger for top six.

• 119 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

  tequila

  12 defeats out of 14. I’m so sorry for being a tad upset watching gutless performances with crap formations, wrong people in wrong positions, poor subs match after match and Colo and Ba peed off with tactics, should i go on….!!!!

  Thank god I’m a bit more discerning and can spot a train crash coming!!

• 120 hugenufcfan // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:21 PM

  @geordie1892 – and can you pls elaborate why we should still keep him as our manager?
  so from what you say you agree with his tactis??

• 121 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:21 PM

  some kids have had more tries thans others ru blind

• 122 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:21 PM

  Tsunki

  Managers live or die by their performance and decision making.

  Sack the twat. Now!

• 123 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:21 PM

  Sack Pardew for the fault of youngsters that are not ready and a lack of investment from the top……makes sense lol.

• 124 TurkishFan101 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

  @nufcjohn You are blind? even with them players back we will still play hoof ball since the beginning of the season when the whole team was fully fit and we could not score goals against Aston Villa, Reading we kept on playing defensive hoof ball football and play players out of position. It will mostly likely change nothing cause we otherwise we wouldn’t of lost last 10 of 12 games!!!

• 125 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

  I also get the feeling there is a lot of disappointment that some of these youngsters arent PL quality by week 7, never mind a season or 2.

• 126 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

  i agree with putting out a weak team today because of our league position, but why didnt we go for the FA cup last season, we had the luxury of all them points, baffling

• 127 matty-toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

  Get williamson and the rest of the dead wood out. get your hand in your pocket Fashley

• 128 tequilamag // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

  Rotanda you should not go on but without a doubt you will.

• 129 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

  Shiremagpies @ 105

  I don’t understand why he didn’t play Marveaux alongside Bigi and Anita. Marveaux has shown in his last few games how good he is in central midfield. The commentator was saying we needed a creative player. It was all there for everyone to see, so yes why wait so long?

• 130 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM

  What as that nufcjohn?!?! I couldn’t quite hear you…..

• 131 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM

  12 losses out of 14.

  Two wins – QPR and (wrongly) 10 men Wigan

• 132 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM

  ah geoff777 – should we put some white space between the club and Pardew ha ha

• 133 Cisse09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM

  @tsunki… U talk bull! Kidda! .. It’s the same team of players that got us too 5th last season with only Anita new and now Debuchy! Last season we had major injuries 2! The whole season has been terrible! We never start a 1st half looking like a team! By the second-half we have lost the game it’s all over and we try get back into it! And as the last 3 games we can’t hold a lead when we take the lead we proved that.. We need a ‘viera’ in midfield O and a new manager that can get the team defending and attacking! Cause we av one of the best attacking team in the league I believe with the right gaffa in place!

• 134 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM

  slank

  trying to get 2 consecutive lots of 90 mins out of shola was either incredibly naive or plain stupid. campbell was surely worth a go, even for 20 mins.

• 135 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

  Jay Rodriguez

  Decent player!

• 136 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

  hallelujah..john tudor john tudor @ 126

  What about all the other seasons since 1955!

• 137 kingcarty // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

  @Nufcjohn

  Turn your caps lock off man!
  Makes you look a div and nobody is going to read your comments.
  It’s also looks like you’ve just smacked your face off the keyboard and pressed submit, poor grammar.
  I struggled to read it.

• 138 nufcjohn // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

  I DONT THINK WE WILL PLAY HOOF BALL AT ALL NOT IF WE ARE LINKED WITH REMY

• 139 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

  at least we get to see ashleys true intentions…..over to you sinbad……the one off brookside

• 140 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:24 PM

  cisse09 – same team? OK then………………

  

• 141 BRABOT // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM

  Pour sissoko,c est fini,Monaco ,Division 2,offre 5 M d euros l année prochaine .
  Russian millionairs offert big money,5 M euros a year .

• 142 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM

  WELL SAID TSUNKI. ALWAYS THE VOICE OF REASON.

  HELLO NUFCJOHN

• 143 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM

  tequika

  if only you could offer a cogent argument but sadly it is seemingly beyond you.

• 144 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  Tequila

  Just because most of them wouldn’t start doesn’t make them kids. If they had been kids then I could almost forgive such an abject display, but they weren’t. The players that are being termed as kids are at the age where if they aren’t breaking into the team and pushing for first team then they will struggle to ever get there.

  I’m fine with us being out of the cup but t defend the performance, or say that our back up shouldn’t be good enough to at least match Brighton is outrageous.

  Let us not forget, Brighton didn’t have their star player of the season starting and also rested their first choice keeper.

• 145 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  The team that got us 5th last season was…..Krul,Simpson,Taylor,Colo,Santon,HBA,Cabaye,Tiote,Jinas,Ba and Cisse. How many of them players where playing today??

• 146 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  Mister Tuff

  I 100% agree. However, what happens if the coaches look at the players and say “5 or 6 of these are not – nor are they going to be – good enough for this club”. Do the board just bend to their will and sign a load of new players?

• 147 alip123 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  The only player who can walk away with any credibility from today is Rob Elliot, didn’t do a lot wrong. Everyone else was abysmal, why play Ranger ahead of Campbell? Ranger has got worse in the last 2 years

• 148 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  Christ sake nufcjohn, take the bloody caps lock off- makes you look like a 9 year old trying to get attention.

• 149 KrulG4ME // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  I have to agree sacking Pardew is not the answer because who ever comes in wont receive the backing required.

  However confidence is rock bottom and the manager needs to step up and do his job, learn from his mounting pile of mistakes and ensure our team survives in the prem. If he cannot do this he will be sacked because Cashley will not get his gruby paws on next seasons tv cash

• 150 hugenufcfan // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  I actually tend to disagree that we put out a b team today in our starting lineup.
  Look at it ffs, most of the players that played today have been playing for us in the PL matches, except for tavernier, abeid
  the rest have been there playing the PL.

• 151 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  Rotonda heights

  It was certainly worth a punt bringing on Campbell as Shola looked out of it well before his second booking.

  I actually thought Ranger played well when he came on. He certainly showed a lot more energy and purpose than Shola.

• 152 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  Ba doesn’t suit blue

• 153 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:27 PM

  but we all know pardew is in ashleys pocket hes not gonna walk and he wont be sacked ill be watching the heed from now on till there all ffin gone

• 154 ramboreilly // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:27 PM

  The fans are pretty much split on Pardew.I have been a Pardew supporter but now I am wavering.At what point does his position become untenable,If he loses the next two games,with the players coming back and new players,then what?

• 155 terry toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:27 PM

  pathetic absolutely pathetic if this is the future of newcastle united then god help us.

• 156 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:27 PM

  @Tsunki

  I see you haven’t taken that on board … everyone just scrolls passed your solid block of text.

  Has any other NUFC manager lost 12 out of 14 and survived the axe?

  I can’t say I want another 7.5 years of Pardew’s hoofball.

• 157 TurkishFan101 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

  Guys please, if you think Pardew will ever change, listen and watch this when Pardew was the manager chosen to take over. Fast foward to 11:34 and watch till 17:00. The man says how Pardew has always been direct and hoof ball in every team he as been at and post match interviews saying he plays very good football.

  http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3

• 158 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

  the heed will get my dosh till the brat pack is gone

• 159 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

  MY NAME IS NUFCJOHN AND I CARNT SPELL. I POST TEAMS TO HIDE THE FACT THAT IM LONELEY AND SAD AND I HAVE 1 TESTICLE THAT HASNT DROPPED.

  MY LARGE LETTERS ARE SEEKING ATTENTION AND I HOPE YOU RESPOND TO ME AS I AM IN NEED OF FRIENDS SINCE MY CAT DIED.

  I LOVE LAMP.

  I AM A PARDEW FAN AND HE SHODNT BE FIRED.

  1 DIRECTION ARE GREAT FANKS FOR READING.

• 160 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

  Plus we won’t have to listen to the slimy twat’s press conference excuses.

• 161 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

  @slank…since 55 we have put loads of strong teams to try to capture the FA cup and been close on numerous occasions

• 162 Cisse09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

  @tuskuni .. Yes the same team ????.. Forget today’s game we all no that was a sham! Look at the whole season in generall.. Compared to last! Open ur eyes! U mad ead aha!

• 163 macdonaldtudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

  Pardew and MA must now go

• 164 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM

  Toon1978

  So we didn’t have our 1st eleven out….a lot of them have played a good amount of first team football this season, and as such should be in a position to at least look like they can match Brighton. Sadly today we didn’t seem to offer anything that would give you any hope, other than we will have fewer games to worry about…

• 165 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM

  If we don’t replace Ba, we’ve got a good chance of going down. Cabaye and Tiote have been poor this season. Coloccini has struggled. Cisse isn’t at his best.

  We need at least 4 more players signed this month. We are so weak.

• 166 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM

  78

  D’urr none of them. You keep missing the point though.
  we were playing rubbish when they were fit. yes injuries may compound our problems but we have been poor all season way before injuries came about.

  Final time. Our 442 longball to ba and cisse with cabs too deep and benny stuck on the wing was a disaster for ages.

• 167 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM

  ramboreilly

  Sacking Pardew would be terrible imo. The board will not back any manager, simple as that. One of the worst hit clubs in the country for Injuries yet Pards takes the brunt of the criticism for this. Manchester United would struggle if they had as many first team players out.

• 168 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM

  Look, last year we only had one long term injury to a key player which was Steven Taylor.

  This year we have had cabaye out for a long period I time. Steven Taylor has been in and out.

  We have also missed players like Ben arfa, colo, tiote, Jonas, marvoux for parts of the season too.

  We have a lot of players in the squad who are ok to slip into the side if 1 or 2 are missing but when 4/5/6 come in we struggle.

  Also player have underperformed and been sloppy in all aspects if play.

  Pardew isn’t without blame as there is no way we should have lost 9 of 11 in the league but it’s not only his fault.

• 169 macdonaldtudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM

  Pardew and mike must now go

• 170 Robby Bobson // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:31 PM

  Yes we played kids but newcastle united should never be in a position that put out a team that play like that in the fa cup.

  These are players on the fringes or yet to make it in the game and they had no fight, only marv when he come on was demanding the ball.

• 171 nightfa11 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:31 PM

  Toon1978 (145 )

  The team that got us 5th last season was…..Krul,Simpson,Taylor,Colo,Santon,HBA,Cabaye,Tiote,Jinas,Ba and Cisse. How many of them players where playing today??

  TODAY? this whole season is crap…who cares about today..

• 172 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:31 PM

  I have an analogy for this season and it’s not a good one.
  It’s like the owner has the ability to buy you a Ferrari but instead you end up with the middle of the range BMW. Now I love this BMW to bits, it functions well and has got some great features if in the right hands and can go places.
  Sadly we have Alan Pardew driving the car who has sadly been found out to be completely tactically inept. In fact worse than that he cannot get the best performance out of his car and he it too weak to own up to his own failings. With the BMW now careering towards the egde of no return and picking momentum….its like watching a really bad car crash in slow motion. Sadly AP has got a track record for this! Now the risk is do we change the driver now in the middle of the transfer window……..and besides who would be willing to work with MA/DL……………there’s plenty who won’t? Or do we stick with ‘im and hold our hands in front of our eyes for the remainder of the season. This is the worst run in 20 years! 20 YEARS!
  IMO if we get 0 pts from the next two matches then I think we will have no choice but to change driver cos’ that was the biggest pile of pony! MOTM were the toon on the south coast travelling all that way to see that shlte!

• 173 mick85eire // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:31 PM

  Let’s be honest we are the worst team in the league at this moment..no guts no class no style just rubbish! We look like conceding everytime the opposition has the ball it’s depressing and frustrating. Williamson needs to go…NOW!

• 174 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:31 PM

  Sacking the manager during the transfer window would put us deeper in trouble in my opinion.

  We need new players badly & they ain’t going to join a club with no manager or a caretaker manager.

  Well unless you pay them a fortune & that’s hardly going to happen.

• 175 Rotonda heights // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:31 PM

  78

  not every manager is high maintenance. Most managers would love to have a squad like ours, simmo and willo apart.

• 176 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM

  I find it impossible to believ that Ashley isn’t looking for a replacement – after all, Pardew doesn’t have much to do with recruitment (obertan aside!). I certainly want a better manager but maybe no one wants to come (though if we can still attract the likes of debuchy, i don’t see why not).

• 177 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM

  I find it impossible to believe that Ashley isn’t looking for a replacement – after all, Pardew doesn’t have much to do with recruitment (obertan aside!). I certainly want a better manager but maybe no one wants to come (though if we can still attract the likes of debuchy, i don’t see why not).

• 178 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM

  Rotonda heights

  Ok mate, i am a durrrrrrrr. Whatever floats ya boat!

• 179 TurkishFan101 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM

  LET ME REPOST THIS AS IT IS IMPORTANT:

  “Guys please, if you think Pardew will ever change, listen and watch this when Pardew was the manager chosen to take over. Fast foward to 11:34 and watch till 17:00. The man says how Pardew has always been direct and hoof ball in every team he as been at and post match interviews saying he plays very good football.

  http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/61504.html?genre=6;sport=3

  PLEASE WATCH THIS GUYS TO UNDERSTAND PARDEW’S PHILOSOPHY!!

• 180 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM

  geoff – if they scrolled past then that must be why so many including you have replied to my posts?
  AnywaythelastthingIwouldwanttodoisirritateyoubythelackofpropergrammarpunctuationandsentencespacingthatwouldjustbejuvenilehahaha.

  
  Toon1978 – well said, thanks for bothering.

  @150 – they are playing in the PL but probably shouldnt. your argument is a fail.

• 181 ramboreilly // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM

  I think give him 2 or 3 games,with a stronger squad to choose from and if the results are not good then get rid while we still have time.But what we cant have is a caretaker manager in for a length of time,so maybe after the Norwich game we should sound out a new manager if we get beat.

• 182 Tinman // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:34 PM

  12 losses out of 14 games. Anyone who defends that needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

  Ready for the chants from away fans at St James Park boys?
  ‘Down like the Mackems, your going down like the Mackems’

• 183 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:34 PM

  The team selection was an insult to the [people of Newcastle and the FA Cup.

  FFS fans traveled 700-mls, and it was on TV for the nation to watch.

  Disgraceful decision to play a weak team.

  Taxi for Pardew asap.

• 184 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:34 PM

  Toon1978

  I think there are better managers out there who would be willing to work in our restrictions. Look at laudrup, he hasn’t gone to Swansea to spend big.

  Then look in others argue around the world, a lot of talent out there who work in tight budgets and get more out of lesser players.

  I believe pardew deserves until at least the end if the season though.

  I still think what I posted 2 months ago is a good idea. Bring in an assistant manger or first team coach to help pardew who plays a passing, ball retention game. It would allow pardew to learn and develop new things.

  Sometimes it’s difficult to see the problem as you are too close to it. I think that is happening a bit at the moment with pardew.

  He is identifying some problems but not them all.

• 185 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:34 PM

  hallelujah..john tudor john tudor

  Close isn’t good enough in a cup.

  We have had two finals since 1955 and were totally outplayed. We are a terrible cup team. I bet there aren’t many premiership teams with a worse cup record than us in the last 60 odd years.

• 186 garyandsarah17 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:34 PM

  I can’t understand why Pardew plays Ranger instead of Campbell or why he persists in playing Williamson who is one of the worst defenders I’ve seen. The guy was to blame for both the goals but the worst thing has to be the ack of fight and passion shown by most of the side.

• 187 Tinman // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:34 PM

  ‘Premier League, your having a laugh? Premier League, your having a laugh?’

• 188 Robby Bobson // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:35 PM

  Saying that the first team players santon and anita were just as poor as the kids…and both goals willo could have done better.

• 189 macdonaldtudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:35 PM

  Fly away Alan fly away mike and dont come back

• 190 Beattie25 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:35 PM

  I think today has shown that the investment needed at NUFC is beyond anything Ashley would ever dare to put in,

  Not only is our starting 11 and subs bench in need of strengthening but from u21′s down we have very little or no quality.

  I think it is time for Ashley to fcuk off and take Pardew and Llambias with him.

  We are falling and even if we stay up this season we will struggle now and in the future unless he invests vasts amounts.

• 191 Cisse09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM

  @toon1978.. Read what people are putting! Before commenting; With the likes is @tuskuni!! Cause I don’t think your seeing the bigger picture bruv! Honest!

• 192 macdonaldtudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM

  Fly away Alan fly away Mike and stay away FOREVER

• 193 AMEOBI // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM

  If you were at the game today, you’d call Pardew every name under the sun! He’s a clueless pr#ck!!

• 194 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM

  geoff777

  Just my opinion but who else could he play today giving our injury problems?

• 195 nightfa11 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:37 PM

  sacking pardew would be the only logical step:

  he lost respect of every player
  hes tactics are horrific
  hes a guy who wants to please everybody, but thats not how a manager should be
  always making excuses
  is in love with shola, wili, obertan, raylor, perch, jonas

  IF WE DONT SACK HIM, PLAYERS WILL START PUTTING TRANSFER REQUESTS AT THE END OF THE SEASON…THEN YOU WILL ALL SAYING HOW THEY ARE NOT LOYAL..WE WILL END UP WITH MORE WILIAMSONS..

• 196 Tinman // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM

  People slating Ranger, he came on, worked hard and did well. Your comments should say cant believe Pardew picked Shola ahead of Campbell and Ranger.

• 197 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM

  Goal for Ba

• 198 kimbo // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM

  Going down,going down ,going down. Where the muppets who say Anita is a good player,Bigi got out paced by a has been,Obertan must never play again, Sammy to Blyth.

• 199 TurkishFan101 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM

  I would like to say regarding my last post, When Pardew was at West Ham the first season he took them 6th, second season he was going to get relegated and got sacked and and Alan Curbishley took over. Let me post this from Wikipedia “Curbishley returned to management in December 2006 when he was appointed as manager of West Ham United.[15] After looking certain for relegation, Curbishley led West Ham to seven wins out of their last nine games, beating Blackburn Rovers, Everton, Bolton Wanderers, Wigan Athletic, Arsenal, Middlesbrough and a 1–0 win at Manchester United on the last day of the season, to keep West Ham in the Premier League.”

  WE ARE IN SERIOUS THREAT GUYS WE NEED TO GET RID OF HIM ASAP NO JOKE.!!!

• 200 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM

  TurkishFan

  I’m sorry but that is absolute nonsense.

  Stewart Robson is the same man that hates and slates Arsene Wenger, and claims that Wenger has bought nothing good to AFC. The man is insane.

  I love how you listen to one man but not Hislop – the player who has actually played under him.

• 201 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:39 PM

  one williamson is enough

• 202 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:39 PM

  @slank, we have had four finals since 55 one in the league cup and 3 in the FA cup, do you know your history

• 203 garyandsarah17 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:39 PM

  He won’t ever leave as long as we stay up he will make money out of the club and that’s why he bought us. Mid table finish every season along with selling one or two players for a few mill profit every season and fat man will be happy

• 204 GAZ09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:39 PM

  Ba is gonna top our day off with a bunch of goals!

• 205 brighter // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:39 PM

  OH shit.BA scored on his debut.

• 206 John Tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM

  the only way is to stay away

• 207 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM

  BA just score. Fans were cheering him on….BABABABA…

• 208 Sir Braveheart // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM

  When we finished 5th last year do people think that was a fluke or that it had nothing to do with Pardew?

  If I gave Rory McIlroy a set of clubs made out of rubber how well would he do? If I asked Usain Bolt to run the 100m in Wellies? AP can only work with what he has. I think out of the 10 games we’ve lost in 12 a better manager might have got us a couple of draws, but we’d still have lost 8 or so in my opinion. With his first choice squad fit and getting games together AP does well. He managed HBA and Santon well when they came to the club and I think the way some fans disrespect what he’s done is poor.

  I do however think he’ll be out if he loses the next 2 games.

• 209 LEROI // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM

  Ba just scored 4 chelsea!

• 210 TurkishFan101 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM

  @ToonDownSouth But everything he has said is fact and has happened to us, he is one of those hardcore nufc fans and knows what he is talking about when talked about is. Never mind other teams but I would like to remind you, look at my post before this one when I said

  “I would like to say regarding my last post, When Pardew was at West Ham the first season he took them 6th, second season he was going to get relegated and got sacked and and Alan Curbishley took over. Let me post this from Wikipedia “Curbishley returned to management in December 2006 when he was appointed as manager of West Ham United.[15] After looking certain for relegation, Curbishley led West Ham to seven wins out of their last nine games, beating Blackburn Rovers, Everton, Bolton Wanderers, Wigan Athletic, Arsenal, Middlesbrough and a 1–0 win at Manchester United on the last day of the season, to keep West Ham in the Premier League.”

  WE ARE IN SERIOUS THREAT GUYS WE NEED TO GET RID OF HIM ASAP NO JOKE.!!”

• 211 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:41 PM

  Kimbo

  Anita is a very good player. He didnt have a lot to work with though.

  He is a player who plays nice simple passes, keeps he game ticking and retains possession.

  Today he had to play long ball after long ball to shola which isn’t his game.

  He will never be a Ben arfa style talent but he is the kind of player you need to be successful.

• 212 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:41 PM

  unfortunately this is getting worse. If it is just about injury on one should be blamed. But now it seems that the confidence is the key. AP should be able to motivate the players, especially when I think it is one of the worst run I have ever seen, worse than GS or Roeder days. If he did not do his job in motivating players the situation will not improve. In one or two match or so if we don’t really show up or at least show the spirit to get up, then sorry AP must go. Or Ashley too. If they don’t show up we fans have to stand up to fight or it will only get worse.

• 213 Slank // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:41 PM

  hallelujah..john tudor john tudor

  Apologies, did we win any of them ?

• 214 nufcjohn // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:41 PM

  CALL PADEW MUCH AS U WANT BUT U WONT BE CALLING HIM COME 1ST FEBUARY WITH HIMALREADY IN NEGOTIOATIONS WITH 2 PLAYERS. WHICH EXPECT O BESIGNED P BY 24TH JANUARY

• 215 Mister Tuff // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM

  tds @146 – I really do not know what the answer is -but clearly the master plan for being a sustainable club in future years has to be “bedded” on firm foundations otherwise the thing will never work – initial investments to get player of decent quality/resale value/ become safe PL team/ sell on developed players/bring through development players etc etc. Got to get the foundations right -which we appear now to be belatedly doing by numerous quality into the club in this window. Who knows it might resolve itself naturally in a year -(with the few quality youngsters coming though -but it just seems a shambles a the moment.- and it shouldn’t be at a top professional club with aspirations for the future. After the euphoria of getting Debuchy, the real likelihood of Remy arrivng I feel its the old one step forward and two back routine.

• 216 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM

  Garyandsarah

  Lets nip this in the bud, Williamson was definitely not at fault for the 1st goal.

  Obertan failed to track Bridge, meaning Tav had to go close him down. At this point Obertan had a chance to get into where Tav was and cover the man Tav was marking. He didn’t, hence Williamson having to go and cover and as he was the closest and an easy scapegoat, voila, morons blame him.

  That goal was another example of awful defensive work as a unit/team. Not an individual.

  Granted for the second he played him onside.

• 217 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM

  unfortunately this is getting worse. If it is just about injury on one should be blamed. But now it seems that the confidence is the key. AP should be able to motivate the players, especially when I think it is one of the worst run I have ever seen, worse than GS or Roeder days. If he did not do his job in motivating players the situation will not improve. In one or two match or so if we don’t really show up or at least show the spirit to get up, then sorry AP must go. Or Ashley too.

• 218 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM

  unfortunately this is getting worse. If it is just about injury on one should be blamed. But now it seems that the confidence is the key. AP should be able to motivate the players, especially when I think it is one of the worst run I have ever seen, worse than GS or Roeder days. If he did not do his job in motivating players the situation will not improve. In one or two match or so if we don’t really show up or at least show the spirit to get up, then sorry AP must go.

• 219 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM

  Can’t we all at least just agree that Pardew is out of his depth if this current set up is serious about challenging for europe every year? If we want to go down, i dare say he’s our man, otherwise…

• 220 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM

  martinez anyone!

• 221 NUFCarter // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:43 PM

  Demba ba just stole juan Matas goal mata goes on a run shoots going over the line until ba taps it over. What a knob

• 222 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:43 PM

  unfortunately this is getting worse. If it is just about injury on one should be blamed. But now it seems that the confidence is the key. AP should be able to motivate the players, especially when I think it is one of the worst run I have ever seen, worse than GS or Roeder days. If he did not do his job in motivating players the situation will not improve. In one or two match if we don’t show the spirit to get up, then sorry AP must go.

• 223 Robby Bobson // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:43 PM

  Jackson…the motivation is what shocked me today…these are players who shouldnt need motivation, kids who are yet to make it or players who are on the fringes, shockin they just accepted defear after half hour.

• 224 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM

  unfortunately this is getting worse. If it is just about injury but now it seems that the confidence is the key. AP should be able to motivate the players, especially when I think it is one of the worst run I have ever seen, worse than GS or Roeder days. If he did not do his job in motivating players the situation will not improve. In one or two match if we don’t show the spirit to get up, then sorry AP must go.

• 225 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM

  Turkish Fan

  Newcastle fan? No he’s not! What on earth are you talking about?

• 226 GAZ09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM

  Lay of the caps nufcjohn, the size of your writing doesn’t make any difference. what does himalready mean?

• 227 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM

  A domestic cup game at home would be nice.

• 228 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM

  unfortunately this is getting worse. If it is just about injury but now it seems that the confidence is the key. AP should be able to motivate the players, especially when I think it is one of the worst run I have ever seen. In one or two match if we don’t show the spirit to get up, then sorry AP must go.

• 229 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM

  Sage – last season we didn’t just lose Taylor!

  We didn’t see Ben Arfa until January, and that was because Ba and tiote went to the acon for a month. We also didn’t have marveaux, Anita or bigirimana available and Cisse signed in the second half of the season. We have had all these players available since the start of the season and have used every excuse under the book. The man management is poor, improvements are marginal in the sense we don’t hoof as much but still void of any ideas. Tactics, subs and excuses are a load of bull.

  I have no respect for a man who puts himself in a position under two clowns to face the angry mob for their decisions. He knew hat he was getting himself into and he is very stubborn an arrogant. When he said we need a cb and a st I was very relieved and thought for the first time he was on the same wavelength as us fans. If he is prepared to cover for those penny pitchers above him to the detriment of the team then I will have no respect for the man. If he can persuade them to get us a st and a cb then I will gain some respect

• 230 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM

  I think I see the big picture –

  With an injury list and a shallow squad like ours, at this point in the season,the best prospect for a new manager would be a perennial tramp (JFK) or up and coming lower league hotshot who would gamble on stepping into the job at the right moment when the jan window signings and returning injured regulars come back into the team. No big-name managers would be stupid enough, and MA would not pay enough for a suicide post. That is the big picture. Pardew and the team need that period of grace to rough this out, thankfully, big picture again here, there are at least 4 or even 5 worse teams currently at almost full strength who are better positioned for the drop.

  Injury has exposed a weak squad. Worst that can be said of Pardew is he should in hindsight have set out his teams to defend at all costs and grind out scoreless bores, but no doubt he would have got the hanging rope for that. I agree with Transfer Sage, a technical assistant would be a good idea.

• 231 garyandsarah17 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM

  Tinman Ranger has a shocking goal scoring record, has shown a lack of respect to the club many times and doesn’t deserve to wear the shirt. Campbell seems to be a model pro with a very good record at all levels and today would have been the perfect time to give him a go

• 232 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM

  KRUL
  DEBUCHY SAKHO COLLOCINI SANTON
  CABAYE ANITA TIOTE
  REMY CISSE BEN ARFA

  THAT IS LIKELY TO BE A SIMILAR LINE
  UP TO WHAT WE WILL HAVE BY FEBRUARY.

  NO NEED TO PANIC, WE WILL BE FINE.

  I DECIDED TO USE CAPS LOCK BECAUSE EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE DOING IT AND
  I FELT LEFT OUT. I AM DEEPLY SORRY EVERYONE.

• 233 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM

  Felt sorry for Santon. He has been playing his heart out and yet he is ending up on the losing side. You can see his frustration clearly in the matches. We need our players back. Also is it just me or does Sammy Ameobi come across as very lazy? Why is he not running around and chasing and pressing? I thought Ranger at least ran around and tried to press which was good to see

• 234 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM

  @slank, no bother mate, we lost all four, and a club of our size should have a better record, but when are we gonna get a bit luck wembley

• 235 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

  at wembley

• 236 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

  Cisse09

  What is the big picture pal? Sacking Pardew?

• 237 Twatter // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

  A change of manager is not what this club needs. I agree Pardew has been clueless at times, but you’re forgetting this is the same manager who led us to 5th.

  You can’t carry on blaming injuries either but quite simply put the effort was not there from the players today — moreover, Pardew as of yet has not been backed seriously in the transfer window. The combination of misguided tactics, injuries and lack of transfer money has led to this. At most, however much you hate him, Pardew is not the root problem, he is merely a factor that sometimes contributes to the bad display.

  What upset me most today was his interview though, poor.

  I still hold faith in him, I’m sure I’ll be criticised now, but as a football fan you’ve got to stand by your manager, especially in these tough conditions.

• 238 Rob1971 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

  Ketsbia how can you say Abeid was better than Bigi? Abeid contributed nothing to the game, he has been poor in the games he has played this season he needs to be sent out on loan as he is not good enough for the team at the moment, Marveaux, Krul and Ferguson should have started today.

• 239 ramboreilly // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

  Second bottom of the reserve league,bottom of the under 18 league and sixth bottom of the premier,says everything.So much for Ashleys 5 year plan.Lack of investment and good coaching is there for all to see.

• 240 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

  Well, there is one bit of good news just flashed across the screen!!

  Bolton 1 – 0 scum

• 241 TurkishFan101 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM

  @ToonDownSouth I was watching another video on youtube with Stewart and another nufc hardcore fan lol I didnt mean him as a hardcore nufc fan my mistake.

• 242 toonking // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:49 PM

  i get fed up with posts saying sacking managers what a manager does in real football is so differant to what a manager does on fifa and football manager games.
  if i were a player and wanted to play short passes then i would do so pardew would not want santon to stay forward he would want him to make sure he is back. no manager would ever control players to stand like statues. today bigi had a shot straight at goal when their was a player in lots of space to the right of him he should have passed. in is only football games on the consoles that allow managers to control what players do on the pitch.

  next i will go onto some other so called big managers.
  jose- real madrid why the hell is he not 2nd behind barcalona
  rodgers-liverpool for a team that likes so much passing and provides lot of skill the team itself certain seems mile away from top 4 finish
  o-neil sunderland he always seems to be thought of as a good manager yet sunderland are only just above us
  dimateo he might have won the CL with chelsea but before that he was causing west brom to be a yoyo club
  capello- won so many trophies with his clubs yet with england was awful and we never reach a semifinal and decided to leave top performing players like bent and walcott out.
  arsen isn’t getting much to spend by his owner and sadly has not been able to win a trophy for 7 years
  chelsea might have won the CL but not once have then been near to the premier league since jose
  and when we sack robson we brought in carver then souness then roeder pearson big sam KK joe kinear chris and pardew yet not once have we got into another CL the closest we have been is with roeder and pardew
  so sacking managers and bringing in ones which look good does not always make a differance and while you have poor boards it will always be hard to attract decent managers and win trophies

• 243 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:49 PM

  Martinez for me too!

  The only consolation of our plight is that Hughton’s making Ashley look like a footballing fool.

  Time to sell and get oot of toon.

• 244 magpiebop // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:50 PM

  Our squad is down to the bare bones and the second string isn’t up to the job. Williamson has had his time and time he left now!!! Desperation playing No Danger Ranger ever!
  Don’t understand how Campbell and Streete are continually overlooked for these two clowns!

• 245 Alan Pas-de-clue // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:50 PM

  look at moyes second season in charge. stability pays.

  look at the facts, the missing players. it will get better but we all knew it would get worse first with our fixture list over christmas

• 246 hatem786 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM

  i hope ba get injured today for rest of the season,that will make my day now………AP OOOOOOOUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW,KEGAAN IN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW:)

• 247 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM

  CONALDO – I THINK I JUST UNDERSTOOD YOU MUCH BETTER WITH CAPS!

• 248 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:52 PM

  Kets some of your points are actually valid but the fact you think abied was better than bigi shows you up today in that you know nothing about football. Abieds first half performance was one of the worst i have ever seen from a so called professional. He only kept possession when he passed it a yard sideways to either bigi or anita. When he went forward with his passing they were all intercepted and apart from a tackle in the 1st min he was incredibly weak in the challenge. Why not just save grace and say ok i always go on about Abied and i admit he was terrible today but it doesnt help playing in that side with no movement and he needs to go on loan to reach the heights i expect him to reach. If you said that many people would just say fair enough but you have been shown up to be clueless im afraid.

• 249 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:52 PM

  Nick9

  But we had a settled team last year.

  Obertan was in the side and it worked (insure how) and we did well.

  Then once Ben arfa retuned we had a very settled team until the end of the year. Rarely had to make a change.

  That’s what helped. We wobbled in the middle before cisse and Ba returned which showed when we missing players we struggle.

  I do think we have a decent side out in a lot of games, more than capable of beating west ham etc at home but I do think injuries have been a problem as well.

  Like I said early, it’s a disgrace our fringe players are not looking motivated and committed, they should have played their hearts out today even if they lost to make sure they get a look in for future games, but they didnt.

  At the end if the day the manger has to find a away to get results with what is available. Pardew currently isn’t doing that.

  In happy to wait til the end if the season but I appreciate why some aren’t

• 250 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:53 PM

  I hope the ameobis get injured

• 251 woodsee // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:53 PM

  god forbid sammi is a 1 club man like hes clueless lump of a brother

• 252 Sir Braveheart // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:53 PM

  Also love how people are saying Ashley should go. Like he can just sack himself. He tried selling the club and couldn’t. If he said he was going it would be a long drawn out affair which would destabilise our club further.

  There is no shining knight on a white horse waiting to save us. We’re stuck with Ashley. It could be worse.

• 253 garyandsarah17 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:53 PM

  Lil Gerodie it doesn’t make me a moron to blame him it’s about opinions mine is he wasn’t tight enough to him and allowed him to turn far to easily. I agree other players didn’t cover themselves in glory for the build up. I just think this guy has no pace is poor in the air for a big guy and his positionaly sense is shocking.

• 254 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM

  Could be worse – Mackems down 1-0 at struggling Bolton.

  Sunderland have their very first 11 out, minus Sessegnon, and Bolton aren’t even playing their strongest side.

• 255 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM

  Fantastic – first call (however ironic) for King Kev

• 256 geoff777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM

  Somewhere over the rainbow
  Way up high,
  There’s a land that I heard of
  Once in a lullaby.

  Somewhere over the rainbow
  Skies are blue,
  And the dreams that you dare to dream
  Really do come true.

  Someday I’ll wish upon a star
  And wake up where the clouds are far
  Behind me.
  Where troubles melt like lemon drops
  Away above the chimney tops
  That’s where you’ll find me.

  Somewhere over the rainbow
  Bluebirds fly.
  Birds fly over the rainbow.
  Why then, oh why can’t I?

  If happy little bluebirds fly
  Beyond the rainbow
  Why, oh why can’t I?

  clicks heels and Pardew is back in the Championship and Newcastle was all a (bad) dream (for us).

• 257 hallelujah..john tudor john tudor // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM

  bad day today, but was proud as punch with our fans, best in the world, deserve alot better

• 258 tweaked // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:55 PM

  seriously would ike to know where AP sees us going this route

• 259 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:56 PM

  hatem786 – hoping ba gets injured? And I thought it was already sad that some were actually commenting about Ba scoring for Chelski on a NUFC Blog. He’s got nothing to do with us, let it go.

• 260 Mister Tuff // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:56 PM

  Extract from Journal Interview on 22.12.12 by Percy Parsnip speaking about Obertan.

  “I actually do think he puts fear in the opposition and sometimes when we and our fans are critical of him when they feel we could be more progressive and direct, you can’t take away that he influences the opposition.
  “The left-back stays at home when Obertan is on the pitch and I think he’ll be important in the next four or five games with no Hatem around maybe.”

  Yes the fullback “stayed at home today” NOT!

• 261 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:56 PM

  nice one geoff – glad to see i’m not the only one drinking.

• 262 ramboreilly // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM

  Come the end of Jan we should have a much stronger squad,he will be judged more critically, then he will have no excuses.Anything less than 4 points by then,then he will be on the brink.

• 263 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM

  Unfortunately the situation is getting worse. If it is only about injury then no one should be blamed. But now I think confidence is the key, of which the players and the manager have lost. AP should be motivating his players to improve and to go through these tough days. If he did not do so the situation will not improve, even when the injuries come back. Players need managers for directions. So the next one or two matches are the key. If AP did something to turn the team around and the confidence is back, it will still be fine. If no, or he or the team still did not show up or improve or at least have some spirit, then sorry AP must go. And so as Cashley.

• 264 One comment a day // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM

  We have no passion on the pitch, throughout the club. There is only one man that can captain the club S.Taylor, and he is always knackered. We have a manager that has no passion, he has not learned how to say Newcastle correctly! Noocarsel sorry but if he can’t be arsed to say the name correctly he has not got the passion or right to be at this club. It shows in the limp dicked approach to games, he has lost it.

• 265 alf // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM

  Not long now for Pardew the end is near the guy is two years into the the five year plan and we are shocking the fringe players are Hartlepool standard at best Ameobi is well past it Demba ba’s just scored and to make matters worse some tossers think Pardew knows what he’s doing!

• 266 Robby Bobson // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM

  The worst moment of the day came when lualua came on for them and i was wishing we had him on our bench….wishing we could swap bemches with brighton is desperate.

• 267 jimiley // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM

  We played our reserve team because this competition is not worth a carrot. We should judge the team in that light. Accordingly, the performance was disappointing but nothing to lose any sleep about. No need to panic. Keep faith in Alan and the team. We have no other choice. Alan is going nowhere.

• 268 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM

  hatem786

  Is this the KK that said managing NUFC under this regime is impossible lol? If by any chance we get a full strength team out and get players in and still carry on losing then yes, Pardew will need to consider his position at the club. ATM, he is trying to build a team on a bloody shoe string. Ahley need to open his tight wallet and bring in quality player NOW. We had the chance in the summer and we blew it. I blame Pardew for that also for bowing to Asheley. He should of stood up like a man in the summer window and demanded that we make improvements or he would walk. He bottled it. I do sympathise with Pardew because he will never manage a club the size of NUFC again.

• 269 Alan Pas-de-clue // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM

  i think theres deeper problems than the management, our constant injuries show something of a lack of fitness, enhanced by the showing that debuchy has the best fitness stats on our records, a great player at 80% is not good enough, an injured player even less so.

  Having said that the team today was just, well bad

  Can only see Bigi making it

• 270 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:59 PM

  tbf to obertan things definitely did not improve down that side when he went off did they?

  Thats twice he has been subbed when he could have stayed on and someone else moved off. Wonder if he is still not match fit enough?

• 271 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:59 PM

  Seriously, i was impressed with Dummett (the spell at st mirren has certainly brought him up a notch). and i’ve got to repeat how impressed i was with tav once he moved to cb.

• 272 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 3:59 PM

  I always hope for a long-time manager, but if AP is not going to do things, especially in bad times, like to motivate players or to be basic, drop the underperformers, AP must be blamed. He must not use injury or depth of squad as excuses. Today, though FA cup may not be that important, AP should have use this as a chance to rebuild the confidence by telling the team to win. But if he did not, he does not deserve to stay. Fair enough.

• 273 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:01 PM

  Sage – last season I think the early undefeated run really set the tone. The Defense looked shakey at times but was actually pretty solid, we then had Ba banging in wonder goals for half a season as cisse for the second half. I don’t actually think the football was anything special but the results hid that.

  This season our first team started off very badly and we heard every excuse under the book. Cabaye was unfit, we wasn’t gelling, Europe, injuries and so on. Pardew has struggled to motivate the team all season. Players like Ben Arfa, santon and Anita are the type of players who try and grab the game by the scruff of the next, the others just hide in the shadows. My biggest worry with Pardew is he is covering for those two muppets above him, I have a feeling he is feeling the pressure now and that’s why he wants signings. All the statistics for this season and records are absolutely shocking and I think it’s ignorant to ignore them.

  If we had the chance to replace Pardew with a decent manager I would, however we would go with a cheap option and someone else who can tolerate those clowns running the club. I ask what does Alan Pardew bring to the table at Nufc? Playing style? Likeability? Results? All I see is a tolerance for those above him, his pals.

• 274 BelfastMagpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:02 PM

  WELL IMOFF

  HOPE COLOCHEEKININNI IS BACK NEXT WEEK.

  BYE JOHN

• 275 p // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:02 PM

  Pardew is mediocre

• 276 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:03 PM

  It was a shocking performance but lets remember it was nowhere near our strongest eleven. No Colo, STaylor, Cabaye, HBA, Tiote, Marveaux, Cisse and we’ve got Debuchy to come in.

  What this match really proved, Bigi possibly apart, is that our young players are a mile off first team Prem standard or even Championship standard. Abheid especially was totally out of his depth and showed why Pards has hardly started him.

  As sickening as it to lose any gamre the ONLY priority this season is staying in the Prem and trying for the best finish we can. We’ve got Norwich, Reading and Aston Villa in our next three games. Two wins and a draw and we’ll have some confidence for Chelsea and Spurs to follow when most of the big players should be back. THe next three games are THE most important three games of the season imo.

• 277 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:03 PM

  I think is MOre than NOt having the Best Players on the field.

  QUS: How good was Brighton players? 10 million? 5 million? 3 million? NONE!

  I think its more on against a better manager plot.

• 278 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:03 PM

  I’ve gone off Obertan after this “performance”. Nauseating.

• 279 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM

  Don’t wanna irritate all of you, but when I think…now Ba wants us to be down, En****e wants us to be down, S*m in WH wants us to be down, Scum wants us to be down, maybe even Manu wants us to be down, and WE MUST NOT GO DOWN. Simple goal – only confidence can turn us around.

• 280 Puppet Pardew // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM

  Jimiley@266 The FA Cup not worth a carrot? I totally agree. The league itself is barely worth a couple of spuds, and as for the Europa – maybe half a clove of garlic, n’est pas? And still the success starved suckers come and pay good money to come to drool at the grocer’s wares. 2,000 traveled today – what fools they are, eh Jim? More money for big Mike and me, though, ha ha. Cheers, Jimmy boy, keep tellin’ it like it is, love ya, PP!

• 281 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM

  Nick

  I would love a very good manager and don’t see why somebody like laudrupp wouldn’t work for Ashley, he isn’t spending big but we do ok, not much worse than average really, but well off clubs going for top 4.

  I think that the only problem is its never easy to pick a manager based on potential and not a proven record which laudrupp was. Showed promise at previous clubs but never sure how far that will go.

• 282 hatem786 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM

  WILLO–SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
  SHOLA SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
  SAMMY SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
  RANGER—KID RANGER…SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSS
  ABEID—SSUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
  BIGI —- KID:)
  AP SUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS…AP OUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTT NOW..HE WILL GET US TO CHAMP…..AP OOOOOOUUUUUUUUTTTTTTT…I HOPE SOME SHEIKH WILL BUY NUFC SOON ASP..DREAM:)

• 283 alf // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM

  Where are the goals going to come from? We have just sold a twenty goal a season player because they are to tight to pay him the going rate Chelsea must be rubbing their hands unloaded Sturrige for 12 million and by Ba for 7 million a proven finisher i think selling Ba will see us relegated!

• 284 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM

  Was not a case of Brighton being good, was a case of NUFC making them look good. Sammy, Tavernier, Shola, Obertan, Ranger, Williamson where shocking to say the least. Santon was also average also.

• 285 GAZ09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM

  Lets get back to dreaming of players we might sign up

• 286 Graeme // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM

  More consolation

  Bolton 2 – 0 scum

• 287 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM

  Bills I think 6 points is a must. Avoided relegation will be seen as a success at the minute when everyone would have been hoping for so much more. Massively let down by those at the club. If we had signed an extra couple of players in the summer who knows how different this season could have been. In most games it has only been two or three injuries to key players so I think it would have made a massive difference. Did Pards do enough in the summer to get Ashley to sign players? I don’t think so. Now the pressure is on I bet it’s a different matter.

  I’m sick of seeing unhappy silent fans at james’s

• 288 hatem786 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM

  SORRY I FORGOT OBERTAN–SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

• 289 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM

  Confidence? C’est quoi ca?

• 290 Twatter // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM

  It’s just silly to bash Pardew without offering an alternative. Whatever your opinion of him, be constructive in your criticism. There’s no point moaning, unless one of you has actually been to the match you haven’t earnt the right to feel pissed off about today. I was at Brighton away last year and know what it felt like.

  Some of you (not all, but some) are just armchair supporters, no clue how it feels to be in the stands when NUFC play this abysmally. I don’t want to hear any more “Pardew out” comments without something else along with it. Bored stiff from this craic.

• 291 woodsee // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM

  Sir braveheart,who says there aint a white knight waitin to buy us,clubs are being bought all the time,and anyone with any sense should no we are the club to buy

• 292 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM

  davis_toons – rubbish man. Team Team TEAM! They had one, a unit, regularly playing and largely unaffected by change. We didnt.

• 293 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM

  GaryandSarah

  Apologies for saying you were a moron, a bit pent up after todays showing.

  I am not defending his ability, in any way, he is an average championship player, but an honest pro who tries to give his best, even though at this level he comes up short.

  The fact is though he shouldn’t of been having to cover he came across to cover, then had to stop change his weight and make a challenge that isn’t easy. To blame Williamson for it s just an easy get out for lots of people.

  By blaming Willo and Simpson, even when it isn’t there fault, masks over the much larger issues that are the root cause here. Communication, work rate, tactics, team work. For me, they were all key last season to our performances, yet this season, every single one of these has got worse this season. There in lies the major problem.

• 294 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM

  tequilamag

  was it the strongest team he could have picked

  do the traveling fans a favour, let them know your putting out your strongest team,

  but out of that team that played today

  elliote,, not good enough, pardew signing, i think harper is better

  tav, still young, but perch willamson and santon,, have all got lots ov experience ,
  even if i think williamson and perch are not prem level,, they should be good enough for that level

  obertan
  anita
  bigi
  abeid
  obertan, i think is shit, lazy with no tallent, but some how he played for france u16-u21
  anita ajax and holand international
  bigi, lots of championship and prem experience
  abeid french under 16-18 algeria under 23
  sammy and shola both england under 21 shola is a full nigerian international with over 10 years prem experince

  now in anyone books that team should have been good enough to at least match brighton today,

  first half 1 shot from 30 yards
  it took until we went down to 10 men for us to play,,

  say what ever you like,, but these players are not playing for pardew,, or if they are pardew accepts a very low std from them

  im betting that if gus had our team/squad, we would be top 8 right now,, with all the so called injuries

  ppl are making it sound like we have not had our best players all season,, it is so untrue,, you just dont want to accept the truth

  reason pardew wont be sacked,

  chrisy H,, if they sack pardew now, they will look silly,, there gona back a loosing hores all the way down

• 295 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:09 PM

  Twatter (289)

  Well said.

• 296 jackson0022 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM

  I agree tolerance is important, and I did tolerate AP. But I do think he has to do the right things to save him from being blamed, just like to change the under-performing players. All in all, we need to see confidence. With confidence, if we are losing every game and go down I think we have to admit the results. But without confidence…we cannot pass our conscience. when playing the games. AP must do sth, either change or leave.

• 297 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM

  Twatter man, calm down. All the panicking that goes on on this site is 100% hygienic: it will have no effect on the real world.

• 298 daztoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM

  Even when we get some players back ie Cabaye,Saylor etc they have been poor this season too and they will be coming into a team low in confidence.Could also take them a few weeks to get up to speed again

• 299 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM

  Ba is going to do very well in this Chelsea team, enjoying watching him.

• 300 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM

  …sadly.

• 301 Robby Bobson // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM

  There are a few things that was really expected:
  - Brighton to play the better football as there first team play with each other every week
  - we would find it difficult to get anything from today

  what i didnt expect is the lack of fight, desire and pride in the shirt….they were first to every second ball, won every 50/50 and wanted it a hell of a lot more.

• 302 Robby Bobson // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM

  Well said twatter

• 303 ramboreilly // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:14 PM

  The big problem with sacking Pardew and bringing in a new manager is,we still have the same owner.He will get a cheap manager,who will have to sell before he can buy,he will get no support or money off Ashley,the players will be pissed off and well have to start again.Ashley is a great businessman but when it comes to football he is a moron,utterly clueless and too much of a gambler.
  we have never got past the fourth round since he came.We are in our third relegation fight in 6 years,had one season in the championship,1 mid table finish and had 1 good season.

• 304 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:14 PM

  Dummett looked very dodgy at the back. He was playing too far up the pitch and got caught on numerous occasions. The bloke’s also got a bad attitude.

• 305 KrulG4ME // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:15 PM

  There must be a few season ticket holders or people who attend matches on this blog.

  Lets send a message to fat mike cashley during our next home game V Reading.

  Sign some new players and ship the shit
  Or we wont buy new shirts
  and we wont renew our tickets
  Repeat til bored

  Or

  You wont get the TV cash
  You wont get the TV cash
  Get out your wallet
  Or you wont get the TV cash

  Or any other suggetions as im not very creative when it comes to chants but a message needs sent. Something thats does not involve negativity towards playing staff .

  What do you all think

• 306 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:15 PM

  Jackson0022 exactly, some players just aren’t responding.

  If Pardew accepts that as a good performance then the benchmark is set extremely low and that doesn’t bode well. He should be angry but instead he is happy with the display.

• 307 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM

  Well that was fun, Roll on Remy, Roll on Sissoko, Roll on HBA Cabs Saylor Jonas ….and roll on February.

• 308 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM

  Twatter

  Yes, people who went will feel bad, but to say that other fans who didn’t cant be pissed off about such an abject performance is utterly ridiculous.

  Whether you get to go or not, if you support the club you have just as much right to have a say about your thoughts as anyone else.

  I had a season ticket for 23years. I now live in Malawi, and have only been to a handful of games in 2 years. Does that make my opinion invalid.

  As for Pardew, I’m not saying I want him out, but I still have every right to vent my feelings on his preposterous tactics, selections substitutions interviews etc.

  If you don’t want to hear other peoples opinions then stay away from blog sites.

• 309 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM

  Ketsbia you have been shown to be a total idiot look at post 247

• 310 Twatter // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM

  Eddie you’re probably right there lad, but I’d like to express myself anyway. An awareness of the plastic supporters and their absurd opinions on here doesn’t stop me from getting frustrated by them, unfortunately. What upsets me most as a loyal NUFC fan is when good fans allow their judgement to be clouded by these airheads.

• 311 magpiebop // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM

  Our squad is down to the bare bones and the second string isn’t up to the job. Williamson has had his time and time he left now. Desperation playing No Danger Ranger ever. Don’t understand how Campbell and Streete are continually overlooked for these two clowns!
  As for Pardew it’s back him or sack him time. The young players are not good enough so loan them out or sell them. It is a nice little experiment Mike and co tried but it’s going to need better players and maybe better coaches. This transfer window will make or break Pardew in my opinion so give him the squad to do the job would be the best idea. Time for big Mike to spend big!

• 312 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:17 PM

  Transfer, name me one manager who has consistently achieved a top eight finish in the Prem outside of those managing ManU, Chelsea, Citeh, and Arsenal.

  The only ones who come close are Moyes and Redknapp but even they have had bad seasons. Plenty of teams have had stand out seasons and done nowt the following year – just like us this season.

  Laudrup is still in his honeymoon period, he has proven absolutely nothing yet imo.

• 313 Rake // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:17 PM

  Thanks for that guess on Gus having us in the top 8 Catchy …

• 314 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:18 PM

  Tsunki

  have you seen the pace obertan has

  when did he use it,, thats his thing

  bellamy all he had was pace, shit finisher, but worked his socks off,, played for some big teams

  obertan, expects everything to land at his feen and not have to chase anything,
  he helps the team with nothing

  last season, they where unbeaten in the first 11 games, he went backwards in every game until he got injured,,

  its rare that you see a so cal good player go backwards when the team are winning

  but he did

• 315 nightfa11 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:18 PM

  ramboreilly

  true but ashley must know that if u want success you need to be a strong person..mentaly…pardew is not..hes cracking under pressure..doesnt know what to do.. acting calm, but hes cracking..cos he realizes hes clueless..he wont admit it..hell just making a few more excusess..

• 316 KrulG4ME // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:19 PM

  Anyone want to send a message next home game

  Chant suggestions welcome

• 317 GAZ09 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:20 PM

  Curse of the Wonga

• 318 alf // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:20 PM

  Its not up to us to offer an alternative you balloons we just get the Piss ripped out of us having to put up with substandard Muppets like Pardew who has been sacked from every job he’s had because he is clueless like alot of twats on here who think because they play Fifa 13 they can talk out of their arses about the Wee club!!!

• 319 Twatter // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:20 PM

  @Lilongwe

  Living in Malawi is fair enough, can’t fault you for that — but you misinterpreted what I was on about. Clearly you’re a real fan with at least an ounce of knowledge in you from that well-mannered response.

  It’s not other people’s opinions that rile me, in fact it’s the lack of that — people just repeat the same dross day in day out, adding nothing to the debate. If people were a bit more original with their insight, that would be fine – whatever their point of view.

• 320 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:20 PM

  True. Seems like the benchmark is very low at Newcastle these days judging by the after match interview. Santon, Williamson, perch, Anita, obertan and shola are all first team players who have been in the 11 lately.

• 321 Transfer Sage // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

  Bills son

  That’s my point. We can’t attract a top top manager so the alternative of pardew went would be somebody unproven like laudrupp.

  Moyes and redknap are both good managers are moyes is consistently on the top 10 and more often than no the top 8 too.

  I’m not advocating sacking pardew, but I do think we could get a better manager if the owner wanted one.

• 322 weg // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

  Tbh I wasn’t too bothered about losing this game, because I’m more concerned about the league,(which I feel justified in), but I was bothered by the pathetic manner in which we gave away the result and our pride.
  Playing Shola up front on his own means our wingers have to offer some support and attacking options. All they offered was frustration. Neither Obertan nor Sammi Ameobi have any kind of footballing brain. They can’t cross, shoot, pass, dribble, tackle or defend.
  The defence is a shambles with Williamson being the prime culprit. He struggles to win headers, his positional play is atrocious and his distribution is awful.
  Bigi was the only player to properly earn his paycheck today, but when you’re the only one trying to close the opposition down with any urgency, you’re fighting a lost cause. Anita wasn’t too bad today but he has to dominate the centre of the park more.
  Finally, there was no urgency from most of the team, and just no movement all game. You cannot play through a team if the players don’t pass and move. Otherwise, you end up just passing back to the CBs and/or Keeper.
  Pardew has to improve his tactics, or the return of our best players won’t make much difference

• 323 Wandering Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

  Last time I saw a mediocre Toon side play like that ..was when Bill Mcgarry was in charge…….I feel sick inside….No passion wearing the jersey apart from Bigi and Anita Sam Am will never make it as a prem player……….I am so sick inside

• 324 Marty-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

  Glad I didn’t see the game….
  Shocking enough just seeing the highlights
  Obertan just doesn’t look interested-what a shame with all that talent.
  The thing with other players is that they’re just not good enough,Willo is desperate to watch,his positioning is pathetic even against lower league so no wonder he gets found out in the PL-SHIP HIM OUT
  Shola should never have started,why doesn’t he let Campbell or Ranger on from the start with some movement and pace?
  Terrible tactics again,this is depressing.
  The one thing you’re looking for in a game like today is a leader to start screaming at the lads to take the finger out and care a bit but no we don’t have that….had I been on that pitch I’d have been like a raging bull,and probably to sent off lol

• 325 Shot Bru // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM

  Plain to see the club has no footballing structure amongst the teams and no philosophy. If we did, todays reserve team would have played the same way as the first team do. They didn’t and it looked like they had just met each other.

  Another gripe…20 minutes to go and Elliot is instructed to launch free kicks into the box from the half way line. More evidence of total hoofball from Pardew!

  These are some of the major reasons why Pardew must take the blame.

  Finally i suspect Pardew is starting to lose the dressing room.

• 326 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM

  lovely finish by Ba

• 327 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM

  Ba again.

• 328 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM

  Rake

  have you got anything interesting to say,, or are you just one of those follow the heard type,,

  my point was they played great football today, and i dont know many of there players, but they made us look shit today,,
  playing for the manager, them
  not playing for the manager us

• 329 Thump // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  Agreed Catchy. Obertan was woeful today and I think that may even be a compliment.

  I don’t even mind the loss too much, I mind the fact that I paid £30 to watch my beloved Newcastle play and ended up seeing one of the most gutless, heartless performances I think I’ve seen since we went down.

  Make no mistakes, lads. This IS relegation form. Unless something happens quickly, we’ll do very well to even stay in this league. F’ing dreading April…

• 330 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  Jesus Billson, how your standards have dropped. Your greatest chairman didnt back the manager and has contributed to putting us in this mess. As you know I have supported Pardew from day 1, but no more. Too many excuses and we saw a team out there devoid of energy and belief against a weaker outfit. I believe he has lost the dressing room. We need a new manager soon because people have to remember that the players who are due back havent been good all season. We have lots of talent in the squad but he lacks the motivational skills and the football philosophy to get the most out of them. And if Cisse gets injured it might well be goodbye to the premier league. Roeder got us to europe and was poor after that – it seems to me that history is repeating itself.

• 331 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  Twatter – if you are what you say you are (and in these cyber-times who can be certain) then i have the utmost respect for you. The fans (i mean the one’s who turn up at the match) are rightly legendary and always will be. i wouldn’t call myself a “plastic” supporter because i’m not ever going to caare about another team’s fortunes but, being honest, it’s years since i went to a game.
  All that said, though, don’t you worry about Pardew?

• 332 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  If the board has any urgency or sense then getting good players in asap will be priority.

• 333 hdavid23 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  its so sad watching this Chelsea game… to think we were easily ahead of them in the PL 10 years or so ago…

• 334 KrulG4ME // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  Or go totally insane with the message sending and gather outside the stadium and chant rather than taking to the seats leaving a vision of what St james’ could look like if he does not invest. Have to say I want to support the team but as fans we have the power to stand up and be counted 52000 empty seats because they are all outside demanding better that would be class imo

• 335 toonLYF // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  I’m actually very very happy for Ba whilst watching this match. He deserves service like this.

  I still stick by the fact that Cisse is better for our team though.

• 336 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  On managers, I’ll answer my own question @ 311.

  Sir Bobby and Benitez.

  The only mansgers of clubs outside the top 4 to put any type of serious consistent challenge in. Both got sacked for too many 3rd to 5th finishes. What would us and LPool give for that now?

• 337 sahil // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  Transfer Sage

  Didn’t you say a medical was booked for Monday yesterday? Is this still true?!

• 338 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:24 PM

  BA SCORES AGAIN!!!!

  how many time does we create for BA when he play for Newcastle?

  Only remember Shola..does alot for him on assist.

  2 GOALs.. still counting..

• 339 nufc786 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM

  its painful how chelsea fans are chanting our ba chants

• 340 Marty-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM

  BA with his second goal for the day,well we always do things the wrong way at Newcastle

• 341 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM

  Transfer Sage

  blank ??
  solksjær ??
  poyet ??

  un proven in the prem, but all have done well at other clubs

  how many had heard of rodgers 3 years ago laudrup last year

  pardew we new wasnt good enough,, we all groaned when he signed for us,, and why was this,, his reputation

• 342 leefire // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM

  I think it worked out great we got out of more pointless cup games we need to spend all or fight getting out of a relegation battle. we also got shot of Ameobi for the Norwich game. Plus more pressure on the fatman to get a striker in. Good day at the office. However they were a disgrace and Obertan should never wear the shirt again, he is pathetic at times and to be disapointed he was brought off. If I were Pardew I would have knocked him out on the sidelines. Im so glad I didnt go all the way down for that cack.

• 343 ramboreilly // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM

  I blame both Pardew and Ashley,although Pardews track record was pretty poor before he joined us,hes probably already exceeded his expectations and now he is reverting back to his old form and has found his level of competence.

• 344 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:27 PM

  Can anyone imagine that Shola was actually the Best player for BA when he was here?

• 345 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:28 PM

  Twatter,

  Can’t really disagree on the point about the repetitiveness of certain peoples posts. I’ve started just skipping past certain people.

  The fact that some of them aren’t willing to at least bend slightly to a point and have to rigidly stick to their view is absurd. I like to think I am reasonably knowledgeable re football, having worked in scouting (at lower league and reserve/youth level) and played to a semi pro level, but at no point is an opinion of mine ever absolute. There are always nuances and moments in games you can miss that can alter your opinion, and that seems to be what some people don’t realise on here.

• 346 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM

  Did somebody say that Debuchy is already shown to be our fittest player? What does that say about our coaching staff? Pathetic

  I am sorry but you cannot continue to harangue on about the injuries?We’ve played 2 good games this season (OT & Emirates) even if the results were painful. That does not excuse our worst run in the EPL. I cannot defend Pardew….IMO if he get 0 pts from the next two then he must go for us to salvage anything from the season! How much more dross must we endure. And don’t start with Moyes…….I’ve never seen him serve up the shlte that Pardew has this season……………its disgusting.

• 347 hdavid23 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM

  @335
  What a great man and manager Sir Bobby was… wish he was still alive and working for us…

• 348 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM

  How BAD was the Newcastle Midfielder?

  Or was it the Style of play? You roughly should know the answer.

• 349 woodsee // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:30 PM

  Pardew,theres no need to ask carver what the word on the street is,its2000 geordies want there money back after that shambles,ohh and some emotion from you from time to time,

• 350 Zangwill_Ho // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:30 PM

  No.6 Williamson is really really poor!rubbish

• 351 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:30 PM

  Toon 1978, you’re deluded if you think that sacking Pardew is a disastrous move. It may be what we need.
  - Awful tactics
  -Low team spirit
  -Odd substitutions
  -Probably lucky to have the points total that we do
  -10 in 12 lost
  -No away wins
  -A bunch of talented players not getting near their potential
  -Almost every player doing worse than last season

  Just how bad does it have to get? As far as sticking with a manager, the only reason to do this is that the manager has the ability to start with . Thats highly debateable with Pardew. Can you imagine what Laudrup would do with this bunch??? And as I keep asking – who else was interviewed for the job? And is no-one, why not. So we go upstairs to the genius owner. And bash our heads off the wall. That performance was ABYSMAL. I think the Obertan apologists can now finally admit that they were wrong. What a lazy sod.

• 352 magpie rangers // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:30 PM

  Didnt think I’d be saying this but I think it might be time to stop the rot and sack the manager, I’m all for giving managers time and stibility but the must come a time he has to go before its too late.

  To use sholas sending off as an excuse just shows he’s losing the plot and getting desperate! We played better without him. The pair of them are a waste of space.

  People saying the clubs run on a shoe sting, alright we’re not spending top 6 money in the last few years but we still spend 9 mil on a centre forward, weve got two full backs that cost 5 mil a piece, a centre half that cost over 10 mil, a midfield that’s got a couple of French internationals and an ivory coast international, far more quality on paper than the norwich’s, stokes, swanseas etc. injurys have killed us this year but you’d think our manager should be able to motivate or squad better than this!!

  Last point, we let the lua lua brothers leave because the ameobi brothers where deamed better!

• 353 daztoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM

  Why did we let routledge go and replace him with Obertan .Sammy will never make it as a prem player seems slower than willo these days.

• 354 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM

  What galls me most is Pardew’s reliance on Shola. If the FA Cup is dispensable then why not at least try something novel?

• 355 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM

  Lilongwe Geordie

  Get your boots on mate. We need you you now lol.

• 356 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM

  Spreadthetoon

  Give it a bloody rest, that’s nonsense. Pardew said that he got the highest scores in a medical that the club has had – players that take medicals have not yet been coached by our staff.

  Getting pissy about something you’ve completely misinterpreted is the most pointless thing I can imagine.

• 357 woolerbill // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM

  May be we should get a french manager as we will soon have 75% french.

• 358 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM

  Last season people were saying simpson and williamson will do ok again when we failed to bring in players and i went nuts and into a big negger because of this. Do you still feel the same when it is clear williamson is a league 1 CB and simspon is probably championship standard.

• 359 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM

  Ba has already scored twice for Chelski

• 360 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:34 PM

  Billson, liverpool will be challenging soon enough, at least challenging for 4th/5th. You see they have a manager with a football philosopy and his players believe in it. Do you think that Cabaye believes in Pardew now? Debateable. I think he has lost the dressing room.

• 361 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:34 PM

  Lilo – with your experience in football, do you think/feel Pardew has what it takes to turn this round?

• 362 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

  Toon1978

  Ha, if only! I’m certain I would put more effort in then some of them seem to though!

• 363 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

  SAFC have come back 2-2

• 364 hdavid23 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

  The Premier League is a lot like the American leagues… There are big markets and small markets, like LA, NY and Miami there, and London here… Think we have to accept that we are a small market, and occasionally will have good seasons, but overall, the rich owners and the best players want to be at big markets…

• 365 Indian Magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

  2 Newcastle captains today

  Shola Ameobi
  Mike Williamon

  Make what you want to make of it

• 366 Rake // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

  @Catchy You’re right Brighton are a good side and they played well today, as far as im aware is that not Brighton’s normal starting 11?

  Assuming it was roughly there normal starting team it’s a team that plays together and know’s how to play together. Not excusing the performance because it wasn’t good enough as for the reasons we can only speculate.

  As for saying Gus could have us in 8th is just pure speculation. Saying you think Gus is a good manager as his side proved today is a fair comment.

• 367 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

  BA almost score with a header. GK doing an almost goal-line stop BA from getting a 3.

• 368 Indian Magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:37 PM

  Always felt LUA LUA was better than Sammy

• 369 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:37 PM

  Everyone sees the league as a priority but what on earth was that performance? If your not embarrassed by that then where’s your passion? 700 mile round trip for that dross and Alan thinks it was a good performances due to the injuries. It’s a shamble and not what we want to hear. How long do we accept if as the end of the season is getting nearer? We know 8 games certainly isn’t enough to turn it around and we have 17 left. We need signings and players back.

• 370 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:38 PM

  Ba scoring a brace just rubs salt in the wound. FML

• 371 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:38 PM

  Catchy – most of what you said about obertan was broad opinion, and your statement on Bellamy was not right, Bad finisher? I havent seen many better one-on-one in his day so you must be thinking of someone else. Anyway I didnt say Obertan was good today but considering everyone was disjointed, you cant expect to shine when the whole team is devoid of movement and passing. I illustrated that by saying nothing improved when he was replaced.

  Sense by Lilongwe there good post.

• 372 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM

  Lilongwe Geordie

  I believe you would lol. We have 2 or 3 promosing kids, one being Bigi, the others being Campbell and Remi Streete. Sammy still has a way to go imo as does Tavernier. Ranger……well the least said the better lol.

• 373 calvinho // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM

  Can we all stop saying that Ranger or Xisco should play? They are both dreadful. They both are not good enough for this club. Also, Dummett did ok when coming on, but again, lets drop the “Dummett should play every week”.
  Same for everyone saying Fergy should be starting. He shouldn’t be near our first team for another 2 years!
  Get a grip guys. We’re poor, but throwing these youngsters in isn’t the answer.

• 374 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:40 PM

  Spreadteh toon, how dare you!! We also played well v Mackems. Thats three decent performances!!!! Peoplke have to start remembering that not all of our injuries are at the same time. We have enough talent to do better – thats the only salient point, not the injuries. Too many gobshites on this site dont realise that. Also, saying we missed Cisse, or Tiote is crazy as one was out of position, and Tiote has been crap all season. I think the team morale has been low since kick off because of lack of investment, and now its proving hard to recover because of pardews personality and lack of knowledge on how to make “the group” ( as he keeps saying ) perform. The 2nd team didnt lift a leg for him today, and he left Marv out – why ?????

• 375 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM

  Ba getting a hatrick and SAFC beating Bolton will just be to bloody painful. I do believe the club is cursed lol.

• 376 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM

  Tsunki – did you see obertan’s swanning about? it was blatant (if non-commitment can be blatant).

• 377 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM

  Tsunki, your defence of Obertan shows just how closed your mind is to what you are seeing in front of you. We were robbed of 3mill by our pal Fergie, and i’ve said that from say 1. His lack of effort was unexcusable, whatever about other players, morale etc.

• 378 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM

  Btw, Kets – terrible comment on Dummett, shame on you.

• 379 bills-son // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:43 PM

  calvinho @372, dead right.

• 380 leefire // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:44 PM

  I think it is hard we have had some very hard games and played well. I hate how you all want Pards to get the sack. If we can get a striker in and get Ben Arfa and Cabaye playing I think we’ll soon move up the table. However if we had splashed a bit cash we might have been doing a bit better. The best we can hopefor this season is middle of the table I dont even care where the scum finish there shitter than us with much less talent. Would love to see Loic Remy. Toon Toon.

• 381 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:44 PM

  TDS
  Perhaps I have missed the point……perhaps.

  But I cannot help feeling that a lot of our players look sluggish and off the pace…..

  Sammy Ameobi – always looks tired
  Obertan, Marveaux, Willo, Simpson, Shola Ameobi doesn’t appear completely match fit – compared to Anita/Bigi etc

  I can accept loosing, thats part and parcel, but you tell me truthfully how many matches you have been impressed with the full 90 mins. We’ve played over 25 matches this season so you’ve got a choice.

  And yes I’ve got the right to slag the coaching staff….I’m not gonna blame the players cos’ I believe we’ve got talent…..but we cannot defend set pieces, we cannot score from set pieces, we cannot score from corners….we have not won a single game away this season, we have never won a game under Alan Pardew…..having conceded first! The record speak for itself and IMO AP has to take a very big chunk of that responsibility…..that also includes players fitness levels.

• 382 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:45 PM

  announcing a chelski players scoring is the last straw for me, its just pathetic. Did you think we had any choice but to sell him? we’ve all moved on. I am off until theres a relevant discussion.

• 383 Mancgeordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:45 PM

  I have to admit but I am starting to think that Sammy isn’t goit to make it, not sure if getting rid of Pardew ia the answer it would be a step backwards going back to square one he showed what he is capable of last year we need a good cb and a win and we will be alright

• 384 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:45 PM

  Jesus Ba scores twice he is having a laugh….all that remains now is for somebody to bid for Cabaye and HBA and we are as good as gone into another league

• 385 nufc82 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:46 PM

  The fact that we haven’t won an away game since May 2nd 2012 and we haven’t came back to win a game from going 0-1 for a long, long time highlights a number of serious problems. Firstly the team lacks leaders who will roll their sleeves up and will organise the team. At the moment far too many players are going missing when we need a big performance from them. Also it highlights the problem we don’t have a plan b and Pardew is failing to motivate the players.

• 386 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

  How the hell does Kets know if Dummett has a bad attitude. He really is retarded.

• 387 toonheroes // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

  Chelsea got a penalty and Lampard took it while Ba on a hatrick. Immagine if that had happened when he played for us? He’d have spat his dummy over the Tyne. On the other hand i would never happen. Does anybody know the last time we scored more than two goals in a game. Don’t think we’ve managed it this season yet.

• 388 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

  Billson, didnt you say that nobody would buy Ba because of the insurance risk + wages + agents fees etc . Another bad call mate.

• 389 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

  Toon1978

  Would have loved to see Campbell and Streete play today, and to be honest I’m shocked neither had any pitch time. Campbell offers something different from Shola, Cisse and Ranger.

  There is another promising couple of kids coming through as well in Gillihead and Adam Armstrong. My worry would be the coaching between now and an age where they should be breaking in to the first team.

• 390 DarloGeordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

  Firstly I have to apologise to Indian maybe you had a point about Shola so……. Yes…… I am sorry my comments the other night were completely out of order and do not comply with how I condone myself in day to day life, twas a bad day with to much strawberry syrup inside me…..

  This result as shocking as it may look was expected in my eyes, the next few results are crucial, I always thought pardew was sh!te, last season kind of made me re-think things but now it seems as though he was still riding on the crest of the wave owld chrissy hughton created (you have gotta love that man) we need Ashley out this club 1 out 2 in blatant lie…. As for pardew we have a goal scoring number 9 one of the most important shirts in football playing on the wing!!!

  I don’t need a coaches badge to see that this is just bad management of your players…. Pardew has managed teams down to the championship and he is doing it again, if only that fat mongrel dog c@nt of an owner could see…

  Not looking too deep into this result as league security is the most important thing… I have stuck up for Shola so many times but this is just a joke… Get the effin ball in the back of the net FFS

  Happy new year guys

• 391 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

  i can’t believe that more people don’t want Pardew out!
  the man is in charge of a drastically failing group of players – if it was Mourinho who’d brought us to this, then i’d want him out.

• 392 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

  My defence of Obertan? What defence? All I said was you have to take performances in context of how the team around is performing. Whats defensive about that? Unless you mean observation?

• 393 BenAfra is Messi // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

  Williamson is so bad, He should be playing in league one or worst

• 394 woodsee // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM

  any of the ameobis could score in that chelsea team for gods sake

• 395 Zangwill_Ho // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM

  Ba ba scored 2 goals so powerful

• 396 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM

  Toonheroes

  Are you forgetting 3 v arsenal and manure over xmas

• 397 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM

  Munster I think you’re absolutely right. Players came out in the summer and wanted signings instead we got how Pardew thought the squad had enough cover and how he had to persuade mike to keep the squad together, wtf is that all about? I think the likes of cabaye, tiote, Ba, collo and Ben Arfa have all lost belief in the club and their ambition.

  Again what does Pardew bring to the table at Newcastle? If he can sign a couple more quality players I think it will give everyone at the club a massive lift including those players above. If the words of Keegan, shearer, Enrique and Barton isn’t enough I don’t know what is and if Alan cannot persuade his mate to spend this window then who can? Pressure is on Alan, boos will return soon if we don’t starting putting points on the board. When does bad team form turn into a bad team or bad management?

• 398 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM

  All “context” and no reality.

• 399 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM

  eddie on comment on Pardwho +1

• 400 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

  Eddie – Mourinho could have had a whole first team out with injury and still had a hundred million pounds worth of talent to call on. Definitely going its like playgroup today.

  Bye ’til after naptime.

• 401 Mancgeordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

  @leefire I agree if we can get cabaye, ben arfa fit with debuchy already on board and if we can get remy and a another cb we could fly up the league and have a good Europa League run

• 402 toonheroes // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

  Oh yes. I must be in shock or something LOL I meant..and WON a game. Shame on me.

• 403 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM

  Right gents, play fair, power cut now to go with the no water all day, so I’m going to go and have a curry, a beer, and forget about this for a bit!

• 404 NUFC FOR SALE // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

  Mancgeordie you THINK Sammy isn’t going to make it???????

  Ofcourse hes not going to make it. Hes been bigged up by Pardew to side step the fact we haven’t spent money to get a decent squad.

  Sammy is the same as his brother, lazy lazy lazy but will be here for years.

  Shola has built a career on scoring the odd goal against Sunderland.

  If Pardew had half an ounce of football nous he would have got shot of Williamson in the summer and brought someone else in.

  Williamson is hands down the worst footballer I have ever seen in a black and white shirt….not even up for debate.

  I can’t understand for the life of me how he become a pro footballer????

  Never have I seen a player who is so scared of having the ball at his feet,……..total total garbage.

  This has relegation season written all over it.

  People stop going on about Demba Ba, we couldn’t keep him simple as that and hes playing in a team now with a midfield second only to Barcelona in european football so he is going to score lots of goals….get over it..

• 405 ToonDownSouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

  Spreadthetoon

  Actually we have won a couple of games after conceding first – FA Cup 3rd round last year and in the league cup last year. But your point still stands of course.

  I agree. But like I’ve said a million times, we have an owner who doesn’t care, and hence the manager is going nowhere. It really does not matter what we think.

• 406 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

  the worst is that ANY given team in the Premierhsip now with this record as today would sack their manager….hell QPR just beat Chelski…

  we are about to give Pardew 12 year contract.

  I REALLY was not against him but seeing a 30 year old plus Shola stup up heading our attack the other day was a sign that Pardew needs serious help.

• 407 JTOONJ // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

  as bad as this seems i’d rather concentrate on the league, this also just shows our youngsters just aren’t ready and need to be loaned out apart from bigi!

• 408 rivettCatcher // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

  It’s no consolation, but it was a better performance than Sou away. I was on the away end there & that was the worst I’ve ever seen us play!

  Great write up at http://www.nufc.com/ about the Brighton game.

  Think some ppl may want to take a long term view, hope we build a team (then squad) over the coming years & keep the faith.

  Also think we need a whole new set of medical staff!

• 409 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

  To repeat, people relying on Cabaye to help spark us and get us up the table are all wrong. But then, given that half of the apologists know little about football, that doesnt surprise. Cabaye is good, but overrated, just like Tiote. He hasnt played well all season, and now we expect him to bail us out, just returning from injury?? For me, its all down to HBA, and whether we buy a decent striker and keep Taylor fit. And heaven forbid anything happens to Cisse. But you see, the owner had all summer to address this – and failed – and showed up why so many on this site are wrong. And the manager has sufficient talent AT ALL TIMES to do better, but cant, because his team set up is wrong, his team morale is low and his motivational abilities are poor too. Along with his ability to train a team to score from a dead ball.

• 410 Marty-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

  Just great listening to commentator at the Chelsea game,BA has scored 2again today but is playing for a very different team.
  He scored 2a week ago but the opposition scored 7,thanks for that reminder.
  Ultimately lads football players wanna win and feel like their team can challenge.
  With some of the donkeys we’ve got playing week in week out along with international players we will not succeed.
  Norwich winning away from home today,do we think we can beat them???
  Hughton has instilled a fighting spirit in the camp there,we’ll be needin somethin better than the tripe we’ve dogged up lately.

• 411 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:55 PM

  BOth of BA GOals are just right infront of goal mouth. You just got to finish it.

  He almost a third, the GK save in time to hook it out with his hands..

• 412 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

  Munster
  Sorry “3″ if you say so

• 413 Marty-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

  Lampard is an idiot
  They get a peno and BA is on a hat trick yet BA wants the peno for himself

• 414 calvinho // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

  Our youngsters need to be blooded into the first team slowly, allowing them to learn from our senior players. This needs to be 1 or 2 maximum. So far this season, we’ve been relying on them and I fear this could stunt their development. Sammy isn’t physically developed yet, Fergy is way too small, Abeid, Vukic, Campbell, Tav, Bigi, are all about 2 years away from being 1st teamers

• 415 colwell // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:58 PM

  Ba jumped from a sinking ship, he knew he was too good for us. Hope HBA and Cabaye don’t think the same.

• 416 Mancgeordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 4:59 PM

  Yes pardew did say he wanted to keep the squad together and assess what he had also that Mike had said we should get another player in and he said no we will wait. Also that if anyone wanted any of our player’s they were looking at an Andy Carroll type of deal

• 417 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:00 PM

  I think lots of you have got it pretty wrong…

  If those where manure youngsters they would have played their heart out otherwise they would get shipped out of manure for good. Not under Fergies watch.

  Today proved again our youth is pathetic. I would shit almost all of them…sorry a premiership side does not lose like that I dont care what side one puts together….its a joke

• 418 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:01 PM

  Does anyone else think the decicion to send Shola off was an utter disgrace? The ref didn’t even see the first so called challenge and the scecond one was blatent cheating.

• 419 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:01 PM

  Tsunki, to repeat, you dont have a clue. You are defending Obertan for no reason and defending a manager who patently cannot get his team motivated and is not making the most of his talent pool. Can you imagine what a coach like Laudrup would do with Anita, Marv, HBA, Cisse.

• 420 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:01 PM

  “Newcastle boss Alan Pardew has hinted he might make further moves in the transfer window to strengthen his injury-hit squad after the Magpies were dumped out of the FA Cup by Brighton. He said: “We know we need to get some bigger players who can handle the situation of carrying a Newcastle jersey, whether that’s a signing or getting a player back from injury.”

  What a prat

• 421 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:02 PM

  sammy, abied, tav, fergy, cambell and streete should be loaned out immediately

• 422 rivettCatcher // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:02 PM

  @Marty-toon… very well said.

  Lampard = self serving cockney tit

• 423 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:02 PM

  Tsunki – what i meant was if Mourinho was managing this group of players and failing, then i’d want him out. it’s not about personality or reputation, just the brutal fact.

• 424 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:02 PM

  Munster imagine if cisse and colo got injured, what on earth would we do?

  Worst run of results in EPL history
  Not scoring from 250 odd set pieces
  Not coming back after going behind in god knows how long
  Haven’t won away in 10pl games this season

• 425 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:03 PM

  Toon1978 i dont think anyone cares because of how badly he was playing. At least we definitely do not have to see him next game wish it was a lifetime ban

• 426 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM

  Looking at the second goal. It was a very poor poor defending.

• 427 calvinho // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:05 PM

  Our youth isn’t pathetic. Fergy would never rely on youth the way we are. Why are we all saying Bigi should be playing instead of Tiote??? The kid has come from Coventry and has looked promising in a few games!!! Get a grip!
  The difference between us & “youth under Fergy’s watch” is that our youth players make up our 2nd 11. Tav, Bigi, Sammy, Abeid, Vukic, all form part of our 2nd 11. At Man Utd, their 2nd 11 features International players. Their youth players make up their 3rd 11.

• 428 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:05 PM

  gorgo – exactly, what complete b.s.! Pardew’s undoubted likeability as a person seems to have inhibited the media from asking the obvious question: is this guy good enough?

• 429 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:06 PM

  Gorgonzola he is already putting a lot of reliance upon Steven Taylor and cabaye. I’m beginning to think we won’t get a cb unless we get a very good deal for a striker

• 430 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:06 PM

  I hear no news on us chasing a hot CB just cheap young players….its actually a joke… I feel like protesting this farce and almost want us relegated so that fatman gets a knock in his wallet….

  We should be all over CBs all over europe….If Willo is there come end of the transfer window we could as well go down…

  I just cant describe the rage within me as of late

• 431 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:06 PM

  Calvinho – did you just say Fergie would never rely on youth?

• 432 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:06 PM

  Nufc-83

  Refs are there to do a job. Unfortunately he didnt. He didnt even see the first challenge.

• 433 RUNAWAY777 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM

  how can the fans keep turning up to watch rubbish footballers who only want there money,no respect for the fans that pay there wages,

• 434 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM

  Clever of pardew to slag off his players as he tries to hide behind more excuses. How do you think players wehen feel when they read this – maybe I’m not big enough to wear the jersey. How demotivating. And believe me, I have supported Pards until recently – staunchly!!

• 435 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

  Pards need to stop beating around the f…ing bush and just say we need better players in istead of hinting at getting better player.

• 436 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

  I’m still sulking about the loss of Demba Ba. It’s a massive blow to us and I’ll only be satisfied if 4 more players are brought in.

• 437 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

  Toon 1978

  exactly

  dis effin grace

• 438 davis_toons // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

  will Westham win Man Utd?

• 439 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

  TDS
  Well he should mind….cos’ we go down again we ain’t coming back up for a long long time. Most of our 1st team players…Cabaye/HBA etc are on a release out in the event of relegation…cos MA changed the wage structures in the event of relegation. So we’ll loose our best players and have a 2nd string quartet that cannot even compete against a Championship team. MA will also loose out on £30m TV Revenue and Joe P will turn their backs on MA…..we’ll end up like frikkin’ borough! Oh god don’t get me started I cannot stand the fat cnut!
  Also even if MA does get players in this window….there’s no gtee and I am not convinced at all that AP can get the best out of the players, I certainly question his tactics, his subs…even his press conferences. He’s all good when the going is good but is nowhere to be seen when things get tough…he’s a wet blanket IMO! Blushed when questioned as to why Cisse was not playing the middle the other day. NUFC is too big a club for this nonsense……problem is we’re gagged cos of the 8 yr contract and feel that we can’t rock the boat cos that would be disloyal to the club. U see MA is canny bast@rd! God I hate the mess we’re in and I hope AP turns it round in the nxt 3 but if we get 0pts in the next two then I think most people will be calling for his head! Enough is enough. Hate to be even writing this, especially when we should be excited about the window and looking forward to the 2nd half of the season. Apologies really! Rant over.

• 440 Indian Magpie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

  Any 1 see what team QPR put out today

• 441 catchy in norway // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

  the sad thing about ba leaving is,, i think it could be the first of many if pardew continues to lead the team

  say what you like,, but he has had bad feeling at most clubs he has been at,,

  i dont think our youth players are as bad as he makes out,,
  with his first team or back up team,, pardews tactics have been poor and both teams have looked poor,,

  now either he is on a higher lever than them, or he is on a lower level cos there not on the same level

• 442 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

  Munster – I dont have a clue because I said what? Obertan was fantastic? Please tell me where I havent a clue and hurry I’ve got the tea on.

• 443 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM

  Munster – well put. I was delighted for Pardew when he got his Manager of the year accolades but now is now.

• 444 calvinho // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM

  @Eddie.
  Yes, Fergie wouldn’t rely on youth. This isn’t the 1990′s anymore. He has a huge squad, and his younger players with potential are all 23-24 now. Wellbeck, Cleverly have done their stints at other clubs and played a few games here & there. We are talking about playing Campbel & Streete!!!!

• 445 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM

  Toonhero toon 3 Wigan zip I was there

• 446 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:11 PM

  http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130105/pardew-admits-newcastle-made-transfer-market-mistakes-summer-188653

• 447 stoner // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM

  Does anyone realise that Alan Pardew actually constantly patronises us fans?
  How many times does he put poor teams out with no tactical shape in the expectation to be beaten? He is scared to put his best possible team out so he can have an excuse when we get beat or for that matter – make him look like he knows what he’s doing if he wins. We constantly receive bull Sxxx politicians answers to questions with everything coming back to excuses. His ego is ripping this club apart. The top and bottom of it is that we are the customers of Newcastle United so why don’t we get treat as if we are? Constant negativity and being patronised is driving me crazy! Well done lads for traveling to Brighton – hope Pardew understands your efforts… I doubt it? Bring in Blanc!

• 448 stoner // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:13 PM

  Does anyone realise that Alan P actually constantly patronises us fans?
  How many times does he put poor teams out with no tactical shape in the expectation to be beaten? He is scared to put his best possible team out so he can have an excuse when we get beat or for that matter – make him look like he knows what he’s doing if he wins. We constantly receive bull Shit politicians answers to questions with everything coming back to excuses. His ego is ripping this club apart. The top and bottom of it is that we are the customers of Newcastle United so why don’t we get treat as if we are? Constant negativity and being patronised is driving me crazy! Well done lads for traveling to Brighton – hope P understands your efforts… I doubt it? Bring in Blanc!

• 449 colwell // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:13 PM

  I remember hoe bad we were in pre season, it was pathetic. It was put down to results didn’t matter even though we played awful. We had a near on full team against Villa and played very poor.

  Who is involved with the squads fitness? they should be sacked, a premiership team that always shattered after 70 mins. The tactics are terrible our corners/free kicks to Willo that have never worked, EVER.

  How people can defend Pards is ridiculous he sets the team out, tactics they’ll play. Ba and Colo speaking out over our poor tactics, it looks quite obvious he has lost the dressing room. He couldn’t even get the younger players riled up to try today so how on earth can we expect him to get HBA,Cabaye etc up for a relegation battle?

• 450 Tsunki // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM

  Time up Munster, tea is out, I will have to sample your ‘clue’ some other time.

• 451 Nufc-83 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM

  Kets your points are invalid because you look a fool saying abied was better than bigi.

• 452 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:15 PM

  kets – i know what you mean. But let’s get real, the emergence of swansea, the grimly beautiful way wigan hang on, even stoke’s much maligned but highly organised approach; don’t all of these teach us the value of a clar footballing philosophy?

• 453 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:16 PM

  Pardew said he didnt think we would be in this position with not strenghtening in the summer. Well i am afraid a lot of supporters did see this coming. Pardew is a fool to think otherwise. At least he now knows that a big mistake has been made. A huge gamble by the board has back fired.

• 454 stoner // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:18 PM

  Does anyone realise that Alan P actually constantly patronises us fans?
  Poor manager who thinks we are something on the bottom of his shoe. Always negative and never truthful. Well done lads for traveling to Brighton – hope P understands your efforts… I doubt it otherwise he would have picked a better team – tactics and motivation… I suppose the poor beggars were tired ehh? Bring in Blanc!

• 455 Spuggy // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:18 PM

  So Ba scores twice for cheski. See the team they fielded, they’re light years ahead. Of course, 100′s of millions on tranfers helps…

  Chelsea
  22 Turnbull
  02 Ivanovic (Lampard – 65′ )
  03 Cole
  04 David Luiz
  24 Cahill
  28 Azpilicueta
  07 Ramires
  10 Mata (Oscar – 79′ )
  13 Moses (Marin – 73′ )
  17 Hazard
  29 Ba

• 456 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:18 PM

  Buttner is 23, Evans is 24, smelling is 22, Rafael 22, cleverly 23, wellbeck 22, Hernandez 24 – all starting for Man U today against an epl side away from home.

  Tav is 21, bigi 19, abeid 20, Sammy 20, santon 22, obertan 23

• 457 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:18 PM

  calv – i actually wouldn’t mind campbell or streete, they are quality players. it doesn’t matter what decade you’re in: quality is quality. but pardew hasn’t played streete and only played campbell once!

• 458 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:20 PM

  Pardew’s rhetoric amounts to a fart.

• 459 geordiegav1987 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:22 PM

  why did pardew put ranger on instead of campbell. All I heard last season was how ranger would never play for us again and how campbell was going to be a top player for us.
  Surely he deserved a chance more than ranger, he must be thinking of moveing to a club that would give him a chance, I know I’d be feeling like that. I know people will say that pardew will of had is reasons , like ranger looking better in training but ranger looked shit today and in my opinion should of had is contract ripped up for his off the pitch anticts.
  Debuchie must be regretting signing allready after looking at that shocking display , we’ll struggle to bring anyone in the way where playing never mind keeping our players signed up.
  I’m now seriously worried about what players will leave even if we manage to escape relegation, and if we dont then we’ll be stuck in the championship with the squad we put out today, and if that happens theres no way we’ll come back up first time this time if we play the way we did today, we’ll do a middlesborough.
  I watch football to be entertained but today I was so depressed that I came close to throwing my tv out the window.
  PARDEW OUT NOW!!!!!!

• 460 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:22 PM

  Stoner he patronises us fans all the time. Fans need to understand…. He gets criticism from fans….. Fans don’t see the players in training, I do….

  It’s funny how us fans are always ahead of him recognising a problem though. It’s all a spin, he is just like a politician.

• 461 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

  Pardew saying that the likes of Dummet and Tavernier should not be playing in the first team atm. Pards is beating around the bush here. He should be saying that Ashley need to invest heavilyto prevent us from using kids that are not ready atm. Just come out with it Pardew ffs. We need 3 quality players. If Ashley doesn’t like truth so bloody what. Get the players in or suffer in the long run.

• 462 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

  i reckon Pardew doesn’t want to showcase campbell to early – man city, man utd would have him off us quicker than euro off a greek.

• 463 nufcusa // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:26 PM

  Many people saying Pardew out, Pardew can’t get the best out of his talent pool. He has not had a full batch to pick from to be fair. As soon as colo and Cisse didn’t travel we all knew we were getting beat today. Sad but true.

  I wanted nothing more than a win as we needs it to preserve a season, for pride and for confidence. Pardew has to take some responsibility. I like him and the stability he offers but my patience is wearing thin.

  His player pool was reduced but he still didn’t pick the best team available. Fergurson should of played instead of Sammy, Marv instead of Abeid. Even if he didn’t start that team hi subs should of been geared to getting an extra but if qaulity through the middle rather than playing 442 and keeping the inept Sammy on the field.

  It is becoming harder to defend the indefensible. If he loses to Norwich he must be under threat. I don’t agree that a new manager woul make an immediate impact and believe that Pardew has earned the right to a chance to pick staylor, cabaye, coloand Cisse in the same team next week but that group must perform and at least show a positive movement for future weeks. An I don’t mean playing well and losing. I mean playing well and taking something fom the game which provides a foundation from which to build.

• 464 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:26 PM

  If we should have brought in 1 or 2 in the summer then they need to make up for lost time. 1 or 2 now will see us do ok for the rest of the season but we’ve got a lot of making up to do.

• 465 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:27 PM

  Tsunki’s tacit defence of Obertan…….” you cant expect to shine when the whole team is devoid of movement and passing. I illustrated that by saying nothing improved when he was replaced.”

  So now what do you say Tsunki?

• 466 daztoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:27 PM

  What does Pardew work on in training?.We look unfit,lack any shape or movement,set plays are all the same and total lack of motivation

• 467 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:28 PM

  Alan Pardew post match:

  We need to get some bigger players back, who can handle the situation of carrying the Newcastle jersey. Whether that is a signing or getting a player back from injury, I don’t know.”

  I think we need a manager who can handle the situation of being the newcastle manager

  excuse after f****** excuse from this guy. never ever is he capable of taking the blame. BUT OH! 3-0 over Wigan and he’s taken every plaudit and congratulatory note!

  this man is absolutely spineless….not to mention an awful football manager as well

• 468 nufcusa // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

  Nick9 – every player you mentioned for Manu is young but are also full internationals. Huge gulf in class!

• 469 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

  nufcusa – i’d like pardew to be stable and getting results! but he’s not getting the latter so i don’t see why he should be guaranteed the former.

• 470 hdavid23 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM

  Toon1978
  Interesting interview… him telling these players should be in our development team tells everything about us…

• 471 JAMSHA // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM

  Pardews lame excuse

  “We are missing too many of our top
  players. The season we’re having we just
  need to get our best players back.

  So wat if the players are out for the whole season…are u gona wait for them for the season???

  WE NEED 6 PLAYERS ATLEAST…

• 472 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

  I just wish Pardew would man up to the board and tell them how it is.

• 473 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

  nufcusa

  we knew we were getting beat when cisse and colo didn’t travel?

  tell that to the fans who DID travel! tell me if they agree with you! what is the point in playing a competitive sport if you do not have aspirations for winning? they are a championship side ffs!!!!!

  not to gripe on you, as you make plenty of other solid points, but this man isn’t losing the plot, he’s never had it and, as you say, it’s becoming harder and harder for even the most optimistic of supporters to defend the indefensible

• 474 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM

  Tsunki, you’re just being silly surely? Even when we have had more players, we can hardly list a handful of decent NUFC performavces this season, and a massive over-reliance on HBA. As I keep saying, can you imagine the speed and style of football by these guys under a coach like Laudrup. Meanwhile Pards comes out and slags the players off by saying he needs guys who can handle the jersey – what a nutter this guy is turning out to be.

• 475 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM

  All of our wins this season have been pretty dire. Qpr we got rescued by shola with ten minutes remaining, Wigan they had a man sent off and we looked lifeless, west brom was a deflected 90th minute winner, Tottenham it took a penalty and Norwich was probably the most convincing in a far from convincing season

• 476 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM

  SHOLA AMEOBIS PLS GTFO MY CITY U DAMN TUTSIE COCKROACH

• 477 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM

  nufcusa – you’ve highlighted another problem: namely, the biggest clubs still attract the best youth players – which gives the lie to the fantasy that we can “do” an arsenal.

• 478 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM

  toon1978

  you defend pardew and blame the board but this is the squad pardew was happy with on september 1st….this is the squad that could see us through injuries, push for fourth spot, handle four competitions

  these were all things he said, not me

  so, if indeed he wasn’t happy on sept 1st, do you not agree he is intrinsically part of the problem then?

• 479 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM

  EVEEN IF WE HAD MESSI WE WOULD STILL GET DOMINATED. pRoBLEM IS PARDWHO

• 480 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

  Well just got back from the game and have to say
  What an absolute shower of sh1t
  Did the lads remember they had a game today?
  Because only 2 or 3 of them looked like they could be bothered today an absolutly disgraceful gutless display that they should be fcuking ashamed of from the manager/coaches down to the players

  Elliot
  Decent game made some good stops but didnt have a chance with defence he had infront of him

  Tavernier
  Shouldn’t of been on the pitch no tactical awarness no positional sense constantly got done for pace by wayne bridge ffs, took forever to get back when our play broke down and has no first touch

  Willo
  Was shocking today nothing more to say really need a CB ASAP!

  Perchinio
  Done well cleared a looping header of the line rarely paniced took a very hard challenge and struggled after that

  Santon
  Didnt turn up today gave the ball away cheaply and didnt cover the flank with any sort of conviction

  Abied
  Awful truly awful no first touch and bottled every 50/50

  Bigi
  Paniced on the ball alot today and seemed to run himself into trouble but did ok

  Anita
  Felt gutted for this lad, ran his ars3 off today won everything broke play made challenges looked to make things happen but with the rest of the squad as static as subuteo figures it was a losing battle for the lad

  Obertan
  Made so many runs up the line only for tav to aimlessly punt the ball to nowhere
  A few good runs got stuck in first half faded in the second a bit but the crowd were clearly p1ssed at him being taken off instead of sammy

  Sammy
  Shocking today unbelivably lazy cant pass cant run with the ball looked to scared to shoot got knocked off the ball with no fight just kept falling over and looking for free kicks and had no first touch at all

  Shola
  Red card was harsh but tbh didnt even notice he was off the pitch
  He wasn’t up for it today at all applied no presure won no ariel battles and generally couldnt be ars3d to run

  Ranger
  Fair play to him came on and looked bright looked like he had a point to prove as he left the pitch at full time in a barny with sammy

  Marv
  Great player should of come 15 mins earlier in fact no should of started infront of abied

  Dummett
  The ONLY positive from this game he worked his socks off won nearly everything had great pace put in some tasty challenges busted a nut to get forward and support but a couple of cracking fizzing crosses in and alaways got back quickly when we didnt have the ball and should be above fergie in regards to the LB position
  He had a great game and should of started instead of tav

  Pardew
  No ifs or buts today im affraid AP you got it wrong
  Subs at the wrong time made the wrong man captain and put the wrong starting 11 out

  All in all a gutting day and possibly the most subdued away stand ive ever been in, the travelling fans but a great effort in today but its hard to cheer for the sh1te that was served up today

  Oh and that ref was a reet pr1ck

• 481 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

  Dear ED

  Can you please do a poll as to whether they would like Alan Pardew to remain as mgr – at least then we could gauge where opinion lies.

• 482 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

  I just think Pardew is afraid to just give Ashley the truth. He is saying everything but the truth as to how it is. We have to sympathise with Pards because the man does not want to fall out with the board. BUT, the board need to know the truth of the matter. If Pardew carries on making excuses for M.Ashley regarding incoming players then the club will slip so far down it will be difficult to come back. We have been unfortunate with injuries also tbf to Pards.

• 483 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

  ALAN PARDWHO HAS FAILED AT EVRY CLUB HE HAS MANAGED.

• 484 Toon1978 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:38 PM

  mattyNUFC

  I do think Pards is making excuse after excuse regarding transfers mate. I do not blame him 100% for our slump atm though. I believe it is the blame of them at the top for not bringing in more players and relying on kids to do a job.

• 485 LenDixon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM

  HOw can Brighton play better football than us and dominates us?

• 486 Spreadthetoon // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM

  Toon1978
  If a mgr is not man enough to square up to the board, then he’s not worthy of being NUFC mgr…..talk about blaming the players…..the man’s a disgrace!

• 487 mattyNUFC // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

  toon1978

  and two years in has this not proved cyclical? AP is as much apart of the problem if he is either a) completely happy with the lack of investment or b) lacking the balls to stand up to the board

  if it’s the latter it’s because he, me, you and everyone else knows that this WILL BE the most undeserved, greatest position he will ever be in. He is proving that to the tee

• 488 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

  and this all loads up into a massive mess…

  No summer signings which I and many many many others knew it would be doom. And bang it did. Now fans are up for 1 or 2 more after Debauchery. Problem is we are in dire straits we need 3 more signigns at least and that is pushing it.

  I said couple of posts earlier to me Colo needs to be benched asap. To get a damn wake up call he did not sign for him to sit and relax and that is what he is doing ..a Gutti.

  Willo should be shaken immediately and he wont thats the sad part. We need urget CB replacements right this minute and I mean replacements that ring the likes of Kompany, Vidic Hummels, Subotic as close to that class as possible. We need somebody who knows how to defend and lead the back 4.

  Nothing less will suffice I hate to say it. I would even risk not having Remy but a young faster cheaper CF instead and bolster for the first time in a very long time our god damn defence.

  Even without our main creators HBA and Cabaye we scored . To me Marveux has been a revelation and prat head Pardwho played him oowww soo late. I would possibly stick him on the LW so far.

  I dont know I said earlier I never liked but never really disliked Patdew but with his lack of effing balls and pathetic tactics day in and out and selling the club short on formation to lick BAs balls is pathetic. Cisse got smothered and he is wearing the no 9.

  This is the time our managers shortfall is shining as a diamond. People would say injuries take a look Moyes what he has been doing with Everton the last few years. One could not say we have less talent surely.

  Pardew out Pardew out but it wont help ….its Ashley out, Pardew would follow like a wounded dog believe me.

• 489 Eddie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM

  tds – thanks for your player appraisals.
  glad you appreciated Dummy’s display as i did watching on the box.
  bit harsh on Tav though – at least once he moved to CB. thought he was terrific there.

• 490 nick_9 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM

  NufcCusa – agreed but is that because they have been given the chance go play and prove their worth of are they just naturally better players from a young age? Like bigirimana seems more ready at 18/19 than others a that age?

  Tads – well done for making the effort, feel for you and others who travelled and witnessed that. We’re one of the loyalist because we ensure so much pain and misfortune over the years, not because we once sang the loudest. I have never seen SJP so subdued and its the Ashley reign that has brought this on, the passion is being kicked out of us so we feel nothing but anger or sadness.

  Would cisse have made much difference today? He isn’t a physical striker and thy were holding on to each attacker we had. Unless he scored a wonder goal I feel he would have been kicked out the game or had poor service all day.

• 491 Munster Mag // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM

  Belive me guys, two new players wont transform the team. We have lost our top striker, so make that one new player – maybe none!! I think Pardew has lost the dressing room judging by the effort being put in.

• 492 nufcusa // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM

  Martynufc – I commend u for traveling and believe it or not, I wish I was there with u. I love following the toon and before moving to NJ travelled far and wide.

  My point was one of realism rather than what I hoped for. I never want to see the team get beat but looking at who was available without those two I couldn’t see any other outcome.

  That is a sad indictment of our development squad but sadly is where we are.

  What we need to remember though is many of these guys are third string players and if gosling, vukic, Ryan Taylor etc were fit then they would be playing instead of Abeid, tavernier etc.

  We need to be honest enough to say we are not strong at the minute and next week at Norwich will be the first time to judge fairly if the aforementioned players such as colo Cisse cabaye etc are fit and abailable

• 493 stunna // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM

  Who wore they captain’s armband after Shola got sent off? Willo?

• 494 two steps forward one step back // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM

  Kets

  Abied should be sold on – he is not going to make the grade and certainly not fit to clean Cabaye’s boots
  Dummet was solid during his spell.
  Your football knowledge is restricted to what you read on Panini cards

  Catchy

  You promised us all you would not come back on this blog until Pardew was sacked.
  So that makes you a lying cheating f-wit as well as a troll. You’re only here to gloat.

  Doesn’t matter what manager we have until the owner restructures the playing side and makes sure we have enough cover to do a job.

  Sell 10 reserves for £1m each and buy two half decent defenders.

  Do we think Pardew really wants to play Williamson in a starting 11 ? All his press statements are damage limitation as he has his hands tied behind his back.

  I also agree we need another coach in, if only a confidence coach.

  If the guys on the coaching team (including Beardo) are so good how come our stats (goals from corners blah blah blah) are so total rubbish. Maybe Pardew should stay and the others go.
  But he seriously does need to up his own game too. Especially with subs.

  The rot with the Toon starts at the top. Batman and Robin need to take responsibility and totally restructure their failed 5 yr plan.
  If Batman does not deal with our major weaknesses this window then the judgement will be with him. He’s had 5 years but keeps making big mistakes

  It might be hard to think it but Pardew might be so desperate he deliberately took a losing side to Brighton to get some leverage for new signings.
  We need more playmakers than Yo, for starters.

• 495 toonin // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

  I,m supporting newcastle since 95, and I,m 30 now…wonder when can I see the lads lifting a trophy…any trophy please….=(

  Guys pray for me so one day I ‘ll be a billionaire, so I can be the new owner of newcastle…I’ll get Gus hiddink to manage our club, or king Kev returns for the third time, with shearer as his assistant….here’s hoping……lol

• 496 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

  Cant believe people on here. Last night everyone was calling for a young team to be put out, it doesnt matter that we lost, it wasnt worth risking senior players when we have so many injuries already, and we need to give these youngsters a chance to prove themselves. They didnt exactly do themselves justice, and possibly that is just because they simply arnt good enough, or at least not yet in some cases, although ranger biggie and dummett looks ok. The biggest disgraces of all were willo and shola, and i for one will be glad to see shola nowhere near the squad for the norwich came, hes been a liability of late, no effort, overweight, absolutly useless. Hope ranger or campbell if he makes an appearance, grabs a goal and hits some form to keep him down the pecking order permanently.

• 497 West Lancs Geordie // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

  I feel really gutted for all those LOYAL fans who made the long and expensive journey to Brighton. They should seek compensation not just in monetary terms but also for the trauma they were made to suffer having to watch that shite. Please note that that will be the basis of the squad we will have next season if we go down & there were only two players who started who are remotely good enough for even the Championship Anita & Bigi. Ashley will look to sell again before he buys and it will probably be Colo. We’ll then need 2 CBs of quality – not going to happen. We’ve no more than 8 players good enough for the Prem & possibly 7 squad players. The rest are either sicknotes, youngsters not yet good enough & wastrels to send on their bikes starting with Willo the Weak, Gosling & Amalafiliano. The Amoebi boys should be swapped for two donkeys (Daisy & Dilly) off Blackpool Beach. IF Harry is in for Remy he’ll get him – move on.

• 498 jimmysmith // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM

  Our top 15 players are top drawer, but of course our injury ravaged season may just as easily continue as stop, we haven’t strengthened yet and may not and the team we have available is clearly in crisis.

  Ash has gambled and lost, but that’s just the way he operates.

  I’m not convinced he’ll do what it takes to get the players in to ensure our survival. I think he’ll gamble on the players we have regaining fitness and form if he can’t get the deals in his favour. Business as usual.

  We might go down, probably won’t, but it’s definitely on the cards as things stand.

• 499 breno95 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM

  My analysis of the performance given today in one word – Disgraceful!
  Supporters can accept a loss if they have witnessed drive, effort and a competitive display however, all of this was very much lacking.
  It is very clear we need a leader on the pitch and in the dugout. Not one player has it in them to dish out a rollicking to team mates who need one during a game. Someone needs to grow a pair in the squad and address this ASAP.
  As for the team today my views are as follows:-
  Elliott – decent keeper has a future.
  Tavernier – needs more experience.
  Perch – squad player but not good enough.
  Williamson – gives his all but no future.
  Santon – talented, needs a rest to regain focus. Has a future at NUFC.
  Obertan – no future at all. Useless.
  Abeid – must be wondering what he has to do. I would give him a future.
  Bigi – talented and has future with NUFC.
  Anita – superb player.
  Sammy – no future at NUFC. Useless.
  Shola – useless is too good a word. Captain of side but so lacks any of the attributes to lead or inspire. No future and should never get anywhere near a match day squad again.
  Ranger – no future
  Dummett – potential hence has a future.

  If I have missed any out it was because they were so poor and failed to make any impression at all.
  I could have rounded up 16 mates who would have shown more fight and nous than the lot who pretended to represent NUFC.
  I worry that with displays of this kind will deter any new quality from joining us under the leadership of AP who, with every game that passes, continues to show that him and his staff (carver & Stone ffs) have no knowledge or ability to lead. I fear we are stuffed unless some if the senior players take a stand and take matters into their own hands to shape the clubs result for the rest of the season.
  I am hopeful that the rumoured signings are gonna happen and will be alot more confident come mid January we can field:-
  Krul
  Debuchy
  Sakho
  Colo
  Santon
  Sissoko
  Anita
  HBA
  Cabaye
  Remy
  Cisse
  Subs:-
  Elliott
  Saylor
  Simpson
  Marveaux
  Jonas
  Tiote

• 500 geordiegav1987 // Jan 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM

  The fact that nearly all our fringe players arent even trying to state there claim for first team football shows me that something is seriously wrong behind the curtains.
  I know that they will be thinking they dont need to prove anything because theres so many injurys at the moment – that pretty much everyone is getting a chance, but to me it looked today that no one wanted to be playing except marveaux.
  Infact its looked like no one has wanted to be playing for us since pardew got that long contract which seems to be about the same time we started to play shit.
  I hate to say it but I wonder who else is ready to jump ship. Thats probably the only way we will see any new players through the door this window.
  What worries me is when a team loses all confidence it’s up to the fans to keep faith in there team to try and bring some of that confidence back, but it seems to me that between 50 to 90% of the fans are starting to get seriously fed up with the abismle displays along with the lame excuses from pardew. I’m fed up and I have been one of the most confident fans since I was a kid.
  Ashley doesnt like spending money but loves makeing it, well he better watch out because I can see saint james’ park being only half full at best if the team carries on the slippery slope we’ve found ourselves on.
  I hope I’m wrong because we need to keep showing up and supporting our team no matter how crap we are playing and how painfull it is to watch.
  Truely depressing times:(

• 501 Marty-Toon // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM

  http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8381306/Arsenal-defender-Johan-Djourou-off-to-Hannover-96-on-loan-for-rest-of-season
  We should’ve got him in for the rest of the season,were too slow at doin business

• 502 nufc debo // Jan 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM

  What the f*** went on today, that team today was not set out to win. I understand the league is the priority but we could have went out today, hammered them and got a bit of confidence back for the lads and used it as a springboard for the next few games. So far this season despite what we’ve seen I’ve never thought we were in trouble, too many injuries, too many games affecting our form etc, not now…..that has to be hands down the worst, most inept, un passionate display I’ve seen from many a team in many a year. Theres no point me slagging off willo as 99% of us are on the same page and have said it before but although both goals were his fault they lost together as a team of numptys.

  Sad sad day for the toon