Newcastle’s Great Image Taking A Bit Of A Hit


Any Newcastle fan will know that since around mid-November, the image of Newcastle United as potentially a team returning to become one of the top clubs in England again has taken a bit of a hit, and couple that with Demba Ba leaving the club last week, and our image has been a little tarnished.

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It didn’t help that Demba Ba left us in mid-season for a bigger and richer club, and he has bad mouthed the club once or twice in the last couple of days, and on Boxing Day Alex Ferguson derided Newcastle United by calling us “that wee club from the North East” – although today he’s trying to explain that rather stupid and insulting remark.

And yesterday was really hard to take and at least for me, the last two games have been really been difficult to take, since we thought we could have got something out of the Everton game, and maybe advanced in the FA Cup yesterday – to give our players a much-needed boost.

But no, it was two more defeats and that’s 11 defeats in our last 16 games – but maybe this is where the collapse stops and we can start to turn things around.

While Shola Ameobi and Cheick Tiote are not available for the Norwich City game – it looks like Jonas Gutierrez and Papiss Cisse will be – with an outside chance that Steven Taylor and Yohan Cabaye will also return – and of course we’ll have Mathieu Debuchy in the side,

So a starting eleven for next Saturday at Carrow Road could be something like this:

Krul
Debuchy Coloccini (c) Williamson Santon
Obertan Anita Bigirimna Perch Gutierrez
Cisse

And if Yohan and Steven are available then it could look like this:

Krul
Debuchy Coloccini (c) Taylor (S) Santon
Obertan Anita Cabaye Perch Gutierrez
Cisse

We only show a 4-5-1 formation because we are short of strikers at the moment – and we also should be getting Dan Gosling and the great Ben Arfa back soon too – and we’re not really sure what the status of Ben Arfa is – but the sooner the Frenchman is back – the better.

We think Alan Pardew and the coaches can turn things around as our players return from injury – we hope Alan Pardew and the coaches can turn things around as our players return from injury. 😀

Keep the faith and we hopefully can pull out of this terrible slump, but it’s certainly been terrible and hard to take.

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76 comments so far

  • Dannyo

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:04 AM

    Comment #1

    Anita over Perch and Marv over Gutti.

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  • HullMag6

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #2

    I see floppy chops trying to steal our thunder again (sigh). its a case of every possible worst case scenarios happening at once if AP did get sacked/walked away then our fate would be sealed. Yesterday was sadly predictable we need to concentrate on epl then possibly Europa the squad needs a partial rebuild.

    Debuchy signed – brilliant then MA has to take short term pain long term gain approach and sign in my opinion 2 first team challenging cbs, 2 forwards and either sissoko or diame to refresh/cover midfield or dare i say it pave the way for a liability to be sold.

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  • WWYCD

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:17 AM

    Comment #3

    When has Ba bad mouthed NUFC? Haven’t seen that

    Pains me to see Perch touted as a starter

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    Comment #4

    Dannyo
    If Anita and Marvo are dropped then Pardew ain’t knows what he is doing – best two players by a mile last few games

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  • pizzicatochan

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    Comment #5

    Ed, I just hope you could feel a bit better on this defeat… or the defeats previously. Many of you would not like what I said, but we really need to lose this FA cup game somehow to avoid more games ahead in order to reduce the risk of losing more players. We also need to get out of the Europa too. Our first priority is to keep ourselves in the EPL. With the tiny squad we have, we need to choose our battles to fight more carefully.

    However, I will take this back if we can sign 5 to 6 senior players this month.

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  • Grafton83

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    Comment #6

    In the telegraph Ba made some comments but I’ve not read it myself yet

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  • pizzicatochan

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    Comment #7

    HullMag6, if the youngsters are ready next year, I think our rebuilding wouldn’t be so desperate. I am hoping to see Bradden Inman, Paul Dummett, Adam Campbell and probably Remie Streete to be part of the plan next year.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    Comment #8

    Pardew and the board are to blame for our rapid decline. Exactly where we should be and would have been last season if luck and ridiculous Cisse’s goals weren’t on our side.

    Pardew for the terrible tactics, football and team selection and MA for his gamble of not buying anyone.

    We are still playing some of the most atrocious football in the whole top flight. It aches to just watch us play. Heck, Brighton made a fool of us with their on-the-deck football.

    Desperately need atleast 3 signings with no outgoings. Seeing our bench at times is vomit inducing.

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  • pizzicatochan

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:27 AM

    Comment #9

    ilovetoon8788, agree about Pardew’s tactics. He needs to hire a offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator… like how American Football does. However, we really have too many injured players which should be the reason to blame. I will look to MA to see what he would provide now.

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  • Shiremagpies

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    Comment #10

    morning lads…. so whats rumours sunday gona bring today then???

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  • carrmatt04

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    Comment #11

    Pardew is starting to make some serious errors of judgement going with ameobi against Everton was scandalous just because they had trained like that, if van Persie was injured and got free to play would he drop him and say sorry we have already had training this week! The team he has out at the min have no confidence as he says none of them are good enough and shouldn’t be playing its upto you the manager to make them into good players there young! As for remy one goal this season and injured like Martins was when we got relegated go for aubengmang much better quality by far!

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM

    Comment #12

    Its at times like these who you see just who are the real supporters of the club !

    Understandably there were some bad reactions yesterday after being dumped out of the Cup again, and i am hurting too!

    Saying that, i talked about priorities before the match yesterday morning too, and i believe i said on two different posts that The Premiership is more important to me than amy Cup competition. Taling into account also the team picked, the loss was predictable, lets move on and win against Norwich!

    Our back four has been abyssmal in the last few months, but with Debuchy slotted in there it will help us a lot!
    However, with Williamson or Perch in that back four we will be in trouble! Because i just don,t have much confidence in them in that position and Williamson has made so many errors lately i think he should be shipped out and sold. But then it would surprise me if anyone would want him!

    Cheer up lads and Keep the Faith even if it has taken a knock!

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  • Shiremagpies

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    Comment #13

    here here NEW EXPAT

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    Comment #14

    @5:

    Never a truer word has ever been written on here! Well said!

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  • hdavid23

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    Comment #15

    we need at least 3 more players in, maybe more, if we fail to sign then we are relegated… i think Pardew has to stand up to Ashley, maybe attack him in public or something, he’s already lost his job for sure, at least that might make Ashley splash some cash or sell up

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  • Grafton83

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    Comment #16

    It’s time for Pardew to go. Does anyone want to see anymore hoof ball, I’m so bored of it, watching our crappy tactics and poor match prep fail time and time again is soul destroying.

    In terms of replacements can I firstly say no to Di Matteo. In my eyes he’s unproven and therefor too much of a risk.

    My preferred choice would be Pep Guardiola, failing that anyone who can teach us a decent style of football.

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  • pizzicatochan

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    Comment #17

    NEWEXPATMAGPIE, if Pardew has the money, I don’t think Williamson should be around, but we don’t have anyone available for that position yet. Maybe the 8m Dutch player unveiled soon (if that ever exists) would help solving the Williamson problem.

    For next year, Remie Streete ahead of Williamson.

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  • Grafton83

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Comment #18

    And Ed, any chance of a Pardew stay or go poll?

    Would be interesting to gauge the fans overall opinion.

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  • pizzicatochan

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    Comment #19

    hdavid23, think Pardew already did stand up in front of MA. Otherwise, the Debuchy deal would never ever happen. I see Pardew is doing something in the background.

    Grafton83, yea Pardew’s tactic does not work, and I said it in this post, but I got another point to say… without certain players like Cabaye, we are not capable of not playing long balls unfortunately. Again, the responsibility should fall under MA’s funding for players of covering the senior players. Can’t see myself blaming Pardew that easily.

    Again, let’s look at the front. Being a 10+-year-old NUFC fan, I should have my heart attack when we have lost the 12-pt margin and the EPL crown to Man Utd so many years ago.

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  • pizzicatochan

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM

    Comment #20

    *should have had my heart attack….

    off now. Howay the lads!

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  • hdavid23

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    Comment #21

    pizzicatochan @18
    i think we’ll see about that in this window, if we get the players in, then he’s stood up to him, if not, he’s really a puppet (unless he insults Mike in public)
    he’s not been provided with the money he needs to make us a good team again for the past 1,5 years now, it’s really time for him to send MA to bloody hell

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #22

    Ed

    Have you been asleep? November

    I think those who have been watching the football will know it’s been all season, a good win v spuds then down hill ,

    Now the 2 up top take some of the blame , as do the players , but most of of the blame lands on Pardews doorstep,

    If we bought those one or 2 players extra do u think it would have helped that much ? 2 that he dd but have made an impact , both considered good enough for first team, Anita should be in the first team when everyone is fit, so the team was strengthend , we have a good team and we have played that good team many times this season,

    Thinking he can turn it around is just wishful thinking and prolonging the inevadable of Pardew of being kicked out,

    In Pardews wisdom for the first 14 games he asked the team to play hoofball , and had the cheek to come out and say we never got our passing game going today, to many times , treating us fans as mugs most of you bought into his crap

    A silly question, sending tav to Gateshead for first team football, what’s the kid going to learn at that level, a step up from Sunday league football, Pardew sancsioned that move,

    Pardew is taken this club down , get a new guy in now or get someone from within the club to take over ASAP to gave them a chance to turn it Round, 8 games lik shearer got will be madness ,

    Confidence needs built up and some new training methods used ,

    This did not happen over night, it started last season, but most of you were blinded by the position on the table

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  • Grafton83

    Jan 6, 2013 at 7:56 AM

    Comment #23

    I disagree, I think a good manager would teach the team how to play good football. Its not down to just one player like Cabs. How else do you explain players like Routledge becoming so effective for teams like Swansea. Passing and movement, it’s not rocket science.

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #24

    Pizzicato

    So you think marv carnt do the job of cabaye Anita to ?

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  • Grafton83

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    Comment #25

    Only just noticed the new banner, Debuchy in, Demba out. Nice!

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    Comment #26

    Grafton

    If ferguson could not make obertan a better player , how will Pardew ?

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  • JAMSHA

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Comment #27

    QPR defender Ryan Nelsen is about to quit
    the struggling club and could be off to
    Toronto FC in Canada as a player-coach –
    SUN ON SUNDAY

    Can We Get Nelsen

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  • check the toastie

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #28

    The team has no Purpose.

    The clubs only purpose is to exist. Improvement will only come with a change of manager.

    PARDEW OUT.

    Love the way now Gutti is going to improve the team even though he has been rubbish for 12 months, a total joke and most fans fall for it. If Parsnip isnt sucking Sholas Cock its Gutti’s, the man is a total duckegg.

    UNBELIEVABLE. SACK HIM.

    PAULO DI CANIO FOR TOON.

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  • geordie1892

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #29

    Morning all

    First off, totally devastated after yesterday’s result, really thought a good cup run was just what we needed to take our minds off a relegation dog fight.

    The thing that concerns me the most about that performance was the total lack of effort and passion shown by the players, it was almost as though pardew set us up to loose!

    Despite this I think we need to keep the faith, as hard as it might be at the minute we need to stick with the team and manager. The problem with Newcastle has always been the same we as fans are too demanding, expecting success immediately.

    Pardew managed us to 5th last year on a shoestring budget with a team predicted for relegation. 6 months later we are calling for his head!

    We have been hammered by injury this year and believe me if we had this luck last season we would have been no where near 5th. We needed investment in the summer, we all knew our squad was too small to challenge domestically and abroad, Pardew was let down, we were let down and we have paid the price.

    The whole idea of 11 purple players and the rest of the squad as back up is totally flawed and will never ever work. For me a good squad needs at least 16-18 capable first team players for a season in Europe. Having just 11 is ridiculous. Expecting Pardew to work miracles under these conditions is even more ridiculous.

    For me the biggest problem at Newcastle is Mr Derek Llambiase. The man has no footballing background and even less footballing knowledge and he is running the bloody club! He is the reason for our failings this season by not getting targeted players “over the line”.

    I could go on and on about the failings this summer but will leave it as we all know we failed on almost every front in getting players in.

    Sacking Pardew would be a mistake the football has been garbage yes and it must change soon but we need players in first. If he gets the players in who he wants and it is still terrible then get him out but come on he needs time to turn it round.

    Sorry for the long post, not the best written, but need to get that off my chest.

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  • Premiership Manager

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #30

    There are several fundamental issues at the club.

    1st is the on-going sag of injuries, this has plagued us for years and needs to be addressed. Training, physio’s, coaching and preventative measures all need to be looked at.

    2nd is the youth/reserve players, are any of the youth and reserve players actually improving? They should be making good progress and if they do not step up to the mark they need to be sold on so that we can replace them with players who have the potential to make the grade.

    3rd Defensive training. I would give Obertan the biggest rollocking of his life, he needs to get stuck in, boot players and not be afraid of getting kicked and also applies for several other players in the team. Ryan Taylor is championship player, PL reserve at best but he is not afraid to get stuck in, close players down when he can catch them and make a tackle.

    Santon is a brilliant player but has been woeful since Jonas has been out of the team because Jonas covers for him and doesn’t leve him vunerable unlike Obertan. The other thing about Santon is that he should be playing down the wing or in mid field as his passing and distribution are very good and in a more attacking role I think we’d see a far better player, who can attack, defend and retain ball possesion unlike HBA and Obertan who give the ball away far to often.

    4th Balance
    There is no balance to the team with far to much emphasis on attacking players who give possesion away far to often. HBA despite being a brilliant attacking player leaves us very vunerable when playing 3 upfront.
    The mid field have to be able to defend, retain possesion and pass the ball. We have been hopeless this year and have played more hoof ball than any other team in the PL making a mockery of the passing game.

    I would rather see Jonas, Anita, Tiote and Cabaye in mid field and grind out a 1-0 win that try to score 3 and concede 4 by playing pretty players who can show a sign of brilliance but leave the team defensively weak.

    We do have to work with what we have got but I’d rather see a balanced 4 in midfield and an attacking midfielder such as Marvaux or HBA sitting behind Cisse to add balance and induce a passing game than play hoof ball, give away possesion cheaply and leave the defense vunerable.

    5th Width.

    Why do we not have any players who can run to the by line and cross the ball. All of our aleged wingers with the exception of ferguson who IMO should be in the team instead of Obertan and Sami all cut inside. It is so easy to close the centre of the park down it’s unreal.

    6th Tactics
    This is my real worry. I don’t think that Pardue and the coaching staff have any tactical awareness. In many games we have not retained posession the other team have scored and rather than reading the warning signs and putting a midfielder on to stem the flow and control the game before the first goal has been scored AP has waited until it is backs against the wall and then bought another striker or attacking midfielderon in an effort to salvage the game. We have rarely won from behind so the tactics have to be right from the start.

    There is nothing wrong with playing 4-5-1 ot 4-2-3-1 if you are playing a superior team away from home or even at home for that matter if that is what it takes to retain possesion and grind out a result.

    7th the Board
    It’s about time they commited to the club and gave Pardew £20 and said it’s your toy go and fix it. If he fails then there is no where else to go except down the road. Give him the money and keep us up

    Rant over

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  • Premiership Manager

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #31

    Should have been £20M

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  • crawcrook3

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #32

    Last season I backed the Toon to be top 4, when we made the signings like Cabaye (but before Barton, etc left). At times we were lucky, but other times we played half decent football. We went close!
    This season at the end of the transfer window I backed us to be relegated, because we did not improve the squad and there seemed to be discontent in the squad.
    And we have struggled at times this season, but agree with Ed that football wise ( not defensively) we have improved in the Prem recently.
    This makes this January window, probably one of the most important windows in our recent history.
    So we have to get back to what we do best, supporting the club.
    We can’t get rid of Pardew now, so we have to support him. BTW I was there yesterday and it was painful.
    There were some positives yesterday, Elliot did well, Anita and Marveaux showed us that they have class. Dummett improved and impressed me when coming on, after an initial mistake. Tavs could be a decent player one day.
    So lets hope we do get the Transfers we want. But I am not sure I agree with some of the proposals on here. Of course we need a central defender and a striker, but when HBA, Marvs and Cabaye are missing we have no spark. There is value out there, Lestienne from Club Brugges would be the first I would look at, he is 20 and has so much potential for relatively little money. We also need a Central midfielder to cover or work with Tiote.
    I know Ashley made a mistake with the lack of signings in the summer and he should make up for it now. But you can’t blame him for looking at value and I hope we as a club get it right.

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  • 89Norcal

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #33

    Much easier pickings until April. I definitely think a turn around is in order. Thank god that December of Death is over!

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #34

    I still hav faith in pardew, we need players in the board is to blame for our current league position, not buying in the summer really has cost us
    Yea pardew pisses me off with certain things like how he played cisse wide, that fact he things jonas is better than marveux, how he played 442 most the season
    We need players signed this week n he has 2 games to save his job bcoz if he don’t beat Norwich n reading with new signing then he has to go, seriously ppl asking for di canio makes me laugh we may aswell hav ronnie Moore at least his team is top of the league

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #35

    Its a shame that after our purple players they are all brown we could do with a couple of purples and a few maroons.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #36

    L’Equipe: #QPR to table €8m bid for Yann #M’Vila, but Rennes want more. #NUFC also interested & want Florian Thauvin, 19, Bastia fwd

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  • geoff777

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #37

    12 losses out of 14.

    The two wins … lucky against 10 men Wigan. QPR at home 1-0.

    Sack him now!
    I’m sick of all the excuses.
    It’s Pardew’s hoofball tactics and lack of nouse that’s worrying. Does he ever make the right substitutions?

    We needed a win yesterday.
    I needed a cup run after watching 25+ games where we’ve been complete shite.

    This piss poor team will be relegated.

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  • 89Norcal

    Jan 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #38

    going to try and repost what two steps showed a few threads back.
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifpb55bXkrg&w=560&h=315%5D

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  • geoff777

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #39

    Martinez for me …. today.

    The relegation battle starts now.
    Martinez is a relegation battle winner.

    Pardew is a loser, and he blames everyone except himself (and his puppet master of course).

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  • 89Norcal

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #40

    geoff you really have no concept of the game do you.

    Might want to check out that video I just posted.

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