Newcastle’s Overall Strategy Seems To Be Lacking


A frustrated Alan Pardew after the game yesterday admitted that Newcastle were again a relegation struggle, and would have to fight in every single game for points – circa 2009.

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A forlorn Alan Pardew looks on yesterday

Newcastle’s strategy of the last few years seems to have blown up – and we;’re sure the idea was that a number of the Newcastle youngsters would come through – having had their chance in Europe – but that hasn’t happened and not one youngster has really come through big time for Newcastle.

This is what Alan said after the game:

“We need to get more big-game players who can handle the responsibility of wearing the Newcastle jersey.” “I never thought we would be in the position we were in today and we have to hold our hands up and say we should have bought more players.” 
“We’ve been terribly unlucky, but we should have brought in one or two more players to give us cover.”“We’re paying the price now, but the window is open and it gives us an opportunity to strengthen.” 

“It is important to spend during this month. It’s difficult to get transfers in this window but we’ll have to do everything possible.” “We’re not too big to go down and we’ve got to fight in every game now to get all the points we can.”

And maybe Newcastle should relax their policy of only burying younger players – because what we lack is experience when all the youngsters play – as we could see only too clearly yesterday.

There’s nothing wrong with signing a good 30 year-old player who has the experience,  but we think the high wages they would want as potentially a fringe player, is one reason why Newcastle keep trying to bring in only younger players – under 26 – whose value will rise at Newcastle.

Another reason is how we’ve been ripped off so many times under Chairman Freddy Shepherd in the past, by former big name players coming to Newcastle for a last big pay-day – but we could have gone too far in the other direction.

Our new strategy doesn’t seem to have worked too well over the last few years – given where we find ourselves today – fighting relegation in our third season back  in the Premier League.

What do you think?

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56 comments so far

  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #1

    davybtoon,

    Hi Lad havent seen you for a while mate. What is going on ith our beloved NUFC since last season. Miss our lame as arguments when our club was doing well….. 🙁

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #2

    2nd 🙂

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  • geoff777

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #3

    Something has to change either Ashley backs Pardew big time or sacks him and we get some new ideas and change tactics.

    If we drift for another month and lose the next two we’ll be in the bottom 3 and the window will be closed.

    The time to act is now.

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  • 89Norcal

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #4

    I think the fact our manager even has to go to the board to plead for additional funds is ridiculous considering the current state of affairs.

    Getting our targets in summer could have meant another top 6 finish, now all it will do is secure us in the mid-table

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #5

    Gorgonzola – it’s good when we can argue up in 5th place but not so good down near the bottom lol
    It’s now time for Ashly to do what he should of in the summer back pardew were 2/3 players off a quality 11 then we just need to improve the back up

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  • dmac

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #6

    Please please please sack our bloody set piece coach! Hoof it to willo from every fk and corner is not a tactic it is something devised by an idiot devoid of ideas. (Upsets me that we even have to play willo) we are also relatively hapless when it comes to defending set pieces too 🙁

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  • hotdog

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #7

    We do have good youngsters, you just can’t throw all of them in together. Good comment from our keeper here inc debuchy
    http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=3031901

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #8

    Well a lot of bloggers here alone told you, Alan, Mike, Derek. You were warned. But you said we had some good players coming through to back the side up. And you also thought you had enough ‘purples’ to cover the job until next summer. And a lot of us, including me said ‘ok then, fair enough.’ We gave you your throw on that, and we were the ones giving you the benefit of the doubt. So when we can see you’ve dropped one, you really have dropped one.

    You cant do everything casino-style. You need to get buying, quality and quick, not only for playing competence but for the confidence of the squad in you.

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  • Spuggy

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #9

    We miss the creation and skill to pull it off of HBA soooo badly.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #10

    Strategy you say?

    …from where I am watching (I am just watching the football) then our team has no philosophy what so ever and our manager has no identity…

    …I would think from a player’s point of view that makes it difficult in dire times like teams and from a manager’s point of view makes it difficult to make change (especially when it continues to do like last season when it worked)

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #11

    As I’ve stated many times on this blog this so called five year plan is getting made up daily, weekly or monthly does anybody really think that it was a well thought out strategic move to not buy last summer, all it does is further strengthen my belief that all Ashley wants is to spend as little as possible for us to remain in the top flight, I’m not suggesting for a minute that he is happy with our predicament, but after we surprised everyone and finished fifth he looked at the squad and decided it could finish 10/12th which I believe he is more than happy with and the pursuit of players was to keep the fans onside, there’s no way we were getting De Jong unless it was for a ludicrously low price

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #12

    89norcal – I think it’s shows up Ashly lack of football knowledge more than lack of ambition, I mean pardew n Carr will of told him in the summer we need to sign these players, I don’t think it’s anything to do with not spending I reckon he thought this squad could achieve top 6 again, n he learnt the hard way listen to the ppl who kno what there talking about

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #13

    ..in other words what geoff777 said but more windy ha ha 🙂

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #14

    another thing…

    Who says a club with a non class leading budget can succeed. One club comes to mind Schalke from Germany phenomenal football. No ultra superstarts workers in the team.

    Great team to follow by example blue collar as they come and a great success story. They are in CL for Christs sakes, where was Schalke in 95 ?

    I really truly believe we as a club require a real owner and owner that wont squeal when he has to pay 10 million for a player barring Cisse. Our transfer policy was atrocious last season. We brought in nobody and I h8 to say it being punished for it accordingly.

    Our team was low on first team players as is neverrmnd depth . To me most of the blame is Board, Pardew, then players. Also our second string players are horrid I would ship most of them out.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #15

    *teams = these

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #16

    Catchy, could have sworn you were going to stay under your bridge until Pardew was gone but as your back….
    At the start of the season you banged on like a broken record that the quality of the football was poor. We have had injury problems from the start but for the first 10 games we only lost 2 and were in the top 10. Your solution was that Pardew should pick the kids not his favourites. Well injuries have got a lot worse since then.
    Saylor out for the last 8 games.
    HBA out for 8 of the last 9.
    Cabaye out for last 10 games.
    Are you starting to see a pattern yet ? add to that injuries to Jonas Simpson and others and Pardew is forced into the changes you had been screaming for. Result from all that is results got worse.
    Catchy all of the players you were saying should be playing have been shown to be simply not good enough.
    That tells me Pardew knows a hell of a lot more about football than a bitter little man living under a bridge in Norway will ever know.
    We all knew ( with a few exceptions) that we had not done enough to improve the squad in the Summer. Our terrible run of results has coincided with the worst injury situation I have seen in many years. CW an extremely hard set of fixtures in Jan That is not Pardews fault. unless he is deliberately injuring his players himself.
    Looking forward players will be back this month and new arrivals are on the way. We are not bottom 3 as you predicted and form and results will improve. When they do please retire to your bridge and don`t bother boring us with your multiple names. You do not have enough insight for one poster never mind trying to stretch that to 3.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #17

    Cant believe its looking like Remy will sign for QPR

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #18

    Morning all,

    Any news?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #19

    Mike Ashley knows nothing about football and Dirk Llambias knows even less than him.
    KK ESPN.
    These unfortunately are the business geniuses ruining our club.Sorry I meant running.

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  • thai-mag

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #20

    I think it is to late now for new players, cheap players from abroad take time to bed in, that’s if they can at all, it will be up to the players coming back from injury to pull us out the sh**

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  • 89Norcal

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #21

    davybtoon

    Yes true, and that’s what Kevin Keegan said, but he also mentioned how certain targets would be taken out of consideration, and that has to be a mix of poor footballing knowledge and being tight fisted on Ashley’s part.

    The board overlooked the little fact that we had so few injuries last season, and figured we could get by.

    Then Pardew allowed Ba to manhandle him on his position in the side, a really poor mistake by him imo that cost us early season points.

    But we had a ridiculous schedule this last month, points will start coming now.

    smh at people who think we still play hoofball because of 3 or 4 longballs late game…

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  • Scotty

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #22

    The reason why the fringe players are awful is most of them get chucked in at the deep end…. Rather than blood them through when the team is strong and we’re playing well….. Fact!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #23

    For all the people wishing Demba Ba’s knee to go all that will achieve is to feed Dirk Llambias ego and convince him he was right to let him go.

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #24

    U can say what u like about Ashly but when you think of the squad we had to the one were slowly building he is going about it the right way just to slow, I mean to hav cisse, cabaye, debuchy, hba, Anita, marveux, tiote, santon, colo your building quality team you need to add another 2/3 to this lot for first 11 then the quality under Neath needs worked on

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #25

    geordietoon

    why not mate, he is a footballer they are offering him something tha Ash would not offer if he was the richest man in the world.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 6, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #26

    Mirin and the St Etienne striker would be great, but I can’t help thinking our terrible slump goes beyond injuries and new players.

    We haven’t played well all season even with a full complement. Injuries are relatively recent and don’t excuse the complete lack of heart, passion, fitness and creativity being regularly shown from both players and management.

    We’ve played hootball 442 to Cisse and Ba most of the season with Cabs too deep, Benny stuck on the wing and Jonas at LW!! Injuries yes but an incompetent manager’s tactics, selection policy, subs, team talks etc has been exposed too.

    Other teams haven’t got anything like the ability in our squad, ie Norwich as a shining example.

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  • JAMSHA

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #27

    robinho avaible for 10mil….

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  • tequilamag

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #28

    Rotanda when have we had a full complement of players to choose from ?

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #29

    Gt89 – u have to ask yourself do u want any footballer who would pick them over us

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #30

    rotonda spot on

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #31

    I would put most of the second string on a short lease too. I dont know whether its lack of talent or lack of commitment but they lack something. Most of them will not make the grade, and I mean anywhere in the PL. We used to ship out players like Ramage, O’Brien, the two scottish brothers, Aaron whatsisname and even Steve Watson who still managed to do a job for a PL team, too many for me to remember who could still do a job for someone but not for us. I cant think of any of our potential cast-offs currently who would be above Championship.

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  • 89Norcal

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #32

    davybtoon

    It’s just annoying the board didn’t put into perspective – we sold off alot of the Championship old guard: Carroll, Barton, Nolan, Lovenkrands, Best, Guthrie – so even the acquisitions of Cabaye, Ba and Cisse were not enough to keep up, and considering the relatively cheap sum we acquired all those for, we should have continued to invest and build depth, because even at full strength we have very little.

    DL and MA should have trusted in Pardew and Carr’s judgement after the work they did in the last 2 years, but they held onto the guise they were mastermind directors of club football and it ruined us this season.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #33

    Davyb
    I will say what I like about Ashley I always do, but do you think this squad that he is building will hand around on half wages for a year or two in the Championship.

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  • Spuggy

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #34

    Big unanswered questions…

    – why did a clause go into Ba’s contract. We just sold a 15m striker for 7m, of which we got 5m. Leaves us -10m
    – why did we not buy debuchy in the summer. He wanted to come. We wanted him. He didnt cost the earth.
    – why didn’t we buy a quality CB and CF when all the momentum was with us and we secured Europa
    – why did we sell and replace routledge, best and Guthrie with inferior (backup) players
    – why did we buy xisco who now doesn’t exist but takes 50k out the coffers every month
    – why do DL and MA persist in having zero communication with the fans
    – why are we the penny pinching when we are back by a billionaire who has doubled his worth in the last 2 years

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  • JackButler

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #35

    Even if Pardew is sacked what is the alternative?

    Whoever the manager is if he isn’t backed by Ashley and co he’s on a hiding to nothing.
    There’s no doubt he wanted player in during the summer but simply wasnt backed.
    You can only do so much with a shyte squad at your disposal

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  • one Tony Green

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #36

    Ed give it a rest publishing none stories over and over to make money out of traffic and advertising at the expense of our misery.
    As for Demba Ba the club had not option to keep him his buy out clause had been activated. That is how we got Cabaye so cheap.

    Anyway will leave to you armchair fans to Whinge.

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  • davybtoon

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #37

    Jail – we won’t go down, the year we did I thought we could but I don’t this time

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #38

    It wil be very interesting seeing this transfer window come to a close ut more interestingly seeing Remy most probably going to QPR.

    How will we react, the one that got away, or will the bid simultaneously for Emerick. Remains to be seen.

    To me if 2 new CBs are not in place the board is not serious. end of. Our defence is lacking pace, strength, tactics, motivation, and skill. Pretty much all that is needed for a club.

    Without HBA Cabaye and the lot we still scored a plenty which is strange. but telling. The board needs to look at itself in the mirror and admit lets blow the budget for once on real quality CBs.

    I am afraid they wont do it.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #39

    Strategy in the boardroom definitely needs a rethink, but more importantly strategy on the training ground and pitch needs a complete rethink/overhaul. Things are just not working as planned. I think even Mike and Decca can see that. Whether they will change is another matter.

    At the end of last season we released a lot of youngsters from a development squad that managed to finish 2nd (I think) last season. The under 18s also impressed last season, so why has it all gone wrong?

    The finger has to be pointed at coaching, recruitment and the assessment of players on the books by staff. If the players. Coaching throughout the club is of a poor standard, and has been for the best part of 20 years at least. How many times have we signed a player only to see them go backwards or stagnate in terms of ability. I can think of plenty without even having to strain my brain.

    Can anyone honestly say Stone, Beardsley and Carver are good at coaching, yes, they are local and in Beardsleys case has done enough for this club to deserve a role somewhere, but I can’t think of a player that has improved dramatically under them. Some may point to Carroll as one, but I seem to remember it was Dave Watsons predecessor, forgotten his name, who brought him through. Even if people come up with one or two, I could point out probably 5/6 for every success.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #40

    jail @19

    i have previously defended a lot of ashley’s policies, but the one I can’t get my head around is that he has made it virtually impossible for a top manager to come here and work for him and even getting rid of pardew only opens the door for some other no -mark.

    The biggest mistake I think ashley has done is to appoint his mates and cronies who as KK says know nothing about football. Rule number 1 in business.

    Right now I would take beardo as interim to lift the spirits and get us playing football. Long term anyone of Blanc, di matteo or solkskjaer would do for me, all with vastly superior Cvs.

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