Newcastle have made two mistakes with Hatem Ben Arfa – and the first one was risking him in the meaningless Europa league tie at home to CS Maritimo on 22nd November when he hobbled off with a hamstring injury after 40 minutes – to the dismay of Newcastle fans.
Ben Arfa - after scoring brilliant goal last time out at Fulham
And then Newcastle brought him back for the game at Fulham on 10th December, and while he was Man of the Match and scored a brilliant goal to get Newcastle back to 2-1 in that game, he was brought off after 70 minutes.
And it seems the Frenchman had a recurrence of the hamstring strain, and we know he’s behind both Yohan Cabaye and Steven Taylor in terms of when he will be back.
Yohan and Steven were in light training all last week, and both maybe could be in the squad for the game at Norwich, but only if fit – and they could possibly start the game on the bench.
But no word on Ben Arfa other than that – and we are interested in what his status is- simply because the mercurial Frenchman has skills galore, and offers some creativity to the Newcastle play, which has been sorely missing for the last couple of months.
We’d really like to know when Ben Arfa is due back in training, but no word from Newcastle lately on just how severe his injury is.
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1 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Injured
2 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Ed Pardew has already said that Benny is due to be back early next month, it came out the same time that he said Cabaye and Saylor could both be back for the Norwich Game
3 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Spennymoor-Mag
Would you rather pardew said nothing at all and pur absolutly no public pressure on the board at all? Can you really not see that by coming out everyday and saying we need players he is publicly challenging the board?
Or when you say
“So what pardew all talk and no action. Just buy the players we need!”
Do you actually think pardew makes approves and pays for the signings
4 Spotlight Kid // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:30 AM
14 goals from current players in 20 games & a defence leaking like a sieve – it’s maybe about a little more than HBA’s fitness, eh?
5 Nufc-83 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Jack butler how can you keep defending pardew saying it is the lack of depth that is the reason for our slump. Granted that is part of the bigger picture but the fact remains our team is showing no desire, fight organisation and with his terrible subs and putting cisse on wing its a large part down to pardew. Another manager WOULD make a difference anybody could see this.
6 Sinner // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:31 AM
http://www.football365.fr/etranger/angleterre/newcastle-ben-arfa-de-passage-a-clairefontaine-959085.shtml
He has returned to clairefontaine for rehabilitation and could be back at the end of February.
7 Jacknufc- // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM
HBA Isnt even injured he’s refusing to play due to newcastle being terrible… why do you’s think there’s no updates about his injury.
8 geoff777 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Ed you did about 5 articles on Ben Arfa’s status the other day.
Crocked until early Feb.
9 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Nufc-83
I’m not defending Pardew, I’ve already said that there are better options out there, but the reality is that our squad is very, very poor. get past our best 11 and you are left with kids that are simply not ready for 1st team football and players that are reserve level at best.
You could put Fergie in charge and the likes of Willo would still be clueless
10 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Ben Arfa will be back when he is back. But if we continue to play long balls then it is irrelevant having him back or not. If Pards wants to continue playing long ball he needs to sign a nippy on the shoulder striker, or play campbell otherwise any flicks will continue to run through to the keeper.
Obviously, I’d prefer us to start playing football, but I’m not sure our coaching and training is setting us up for that.
11 one Tony Green // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM
@ Geoff 777 well said mate. Ed stop posting rubbish please just to get traffic on your site.
12 Nufc-83 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM
I agree the players would still be poor individually regardless of who is in charge but the team would certainly be more of a unit and seem to have a plan of action under a different manager. People asking for Di matteo what was wba reputation of football like when he was there i can’t remember.
13 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM
On Remy, if he does go to QPR and turns us down, the it will say everything you need to now about a lad that would rather play at a potacabin of a stadium who are odd’s on to go down
14 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Om have said remy can leave for right price, were in talks over mirin n florian thauvin
15 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:41 AM
There was reports that Remy will travel to England this week to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms with us, on twitter lets hope this is true
16 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM
JB
If we put Fergie in charge a few of our players would up their level due to the dressing downs they would get from the famous ‘hairdryer’. He would also have confidence to drop under performing players and wouldn’t be afraid to upset established stars. You think Ba would have been able to dictate which position he played in to Ferguson? No chance!! (Obviously that is speculation that it happened with Pards)
But at this point in time, gambling on a lower league manager, or a foreigner never to have managed in the prem is very risky too. Maybe a case of better the devil you know.
17 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Nufc-83
He plays good football but has been sacked at every club as manager
18 KrulG4ME // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM
We cannot score from set plays so why does Pardew insist on playing the long ball game it is in affect the same put the ball as close to opposition goal as possible and hope you can pinch a goal. Also why do we never seem to have a player picking up the loose ball at back post after over shot corner that is one reason we have not scored from a set play for so long.
19 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Lilongwe Geordie
A poor player who is motivated is still a poor player
20 geordie157 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:44 AM
So which centre back would everyone like to see come in, ideally i’d want Sakho but i can’t see us getting him.
Anyone from Sakho, Alderweireld, Mbiwa & Douglas should do nicely. I would add Ogbonna but he’s injured and prob over 10mill.
Another cb should be signed in the summer too, then Wilo can be offloaded. Ie Imirit-Martins, Maguire, Kouyate, Gouweleeuw
21 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:44 AM
And according to our information, one of their priority targets is other than Florian Thauvin, the young striker from Bastia. The player, who is under contract until June 2014, scored two goals in 16 games during the first half of the season.
He sounds such a class striker… on terms with Shola
22 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:45 AM
On Thauvin, I don’t know much about him other than he is 19 and an attacking player. Is he ready for first team, or is he one for the future?
While we need to improve our development squad, the much more pressing need is to get first team ready players in. Once we have achieved that then bring in youngsters for the development squad.
23 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Remy can only leave for a big club if he’s interested…. Surely QPR aint a big club are they?
24 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM
free sam sodje sammy kuffor
25 BigKirky // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM
We should have 2 or three Ben Arfa style players in the side. One down each wing and one in the acm or forward role. We have 1.
When Benny initially hobbled off there was no way in the world he’d be fine after a couple of weeks rest. I the hamstring pull master and there’s no surprise that he has been forced put again soon after, but for much longer.
26 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM
royston drenthe cmon pardew use some grey stuff
27 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM
GT89
We have a delegation out in France trying to tie up deals, but Dirty ‘Arry is said to be flying out today to watch Remy who is believed will be playing in their cup game
28 Spuggy // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:49 AM
I think we need a top quality CB, CM and CF as a minimum this window – especially with tiote away.
The CF should have pace and be adept on the wing or as part of a 3 man forward line.
The CM should have defensive qualities and be good at pass and move. Someone who can hold off a player – seen us bullied off the ball far to much this season.
The CB should be top quality, have strength and pace and ideally be a target man at set plays.
In the summer we need to get rid of willo, Simmo and gosling (I’d give obertan one more season used as a super sub on LW).
Demote sammy back to development squad (he needs to learn basics like not being lazy). Loan out tav and dummet.
Finally, buy quality youngsters (at least at bigi level) who could do a good job at backing up RB, CB, CF and a winger.
29 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:49 AM
JB
True, but the lack of application yesterday was startling. If they were motivated they would at least be pressing more which would force the opposition to make mistakes. The amount of time Brighton players had just to play it around was unacceptable. No matter how poor a player you should be capable of chasing and harrying the opposition. We rarely did either.
30 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:49 AM
they cant tie shoelaces never mind deals
31 Papiss9 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM
If we get a solid CB and a player like Remy, we would start climbing the table again as our best players are coming back from injury too..
Then in the summer, Ashley must realize he has to spend on 3-4 players who goes straight into our starting lineup.
I haven’t liked Pardews subs and tactics this season, but almost every team in the PL, except for Manu and maybe City are not stable.. If we keep Pardew and he turns around the results this spring and keeps his job, he will certainly learn a lot from what has happend so far. Hopfully we start next season with a better squad and subs who are up for the challenge.. Keeping Pardew can be smart in the longrun
I know everyone wants him out, but in the long it might be wrong to change manager now (start building all over again + paying pardew for 7 more years).
Just trying to be positive, HWTL!
32 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM
A was thinking Barton might help our case in Remy coming to Newcastle but Mbia will help QPRs aswell
33 Papiss9 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM
I don’t care if we have to pay 12 M £ or more for REmy… Seeing Shola just jogging around as a striker, makes me angry.. HBA CISSE REMY.. Class
34 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Jack – for some reason I think that delegation is more focussed on signing the younger players like Mirin and that Thauvin
35 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Lilongwe Geordie
I agree mate, BUT, should you even have to try to motivate a young player who’s been given the chance to player for NUFC in the FA Cup???
Out of the squad of 18 yesterday only four of those should be anywhere near our first team, the kids should be out on loan and the rest should be moved on as they are simply not good enough
36 shearermania // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM
all right in have sort of semi calmed down now after the horror show against the mighty Brighton but there is still something that allures me and that is: if we are not able to win, draw or at least muster some kind of superiority against a league 1 team with our second team – then whats the actually need for having back up players ala development/reserves? if they are indeed rubbish why keep them at the club…its all dandy saying they need experience but hey in my world if you are not good enough well then you’re not good enough….
37 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Marseille sporting director Jose Anigo has confirmed that Loic Remy will be allowed to leave the club in the January transfer window.
He told l’Equipe: “The only window we could open this winter is for Loic Remy. If a big club comes and is interested then we will see. Apart from Remy nobody else will leave.”
38 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Spuggy
I see Centre mid as the least of our worries at the moment. We do need to strengthen in there, but for this window I would accept 1/2 centre backs and an attacking player as you described.
We definitely need good youngsters in, but again I would want the 1st team sorted first. If we could bring in 3 more players, and loan Sammy, Tav and Dummy out again I’d be happy. Abeid needs a loan to.
I would keep Simpson and let him go free at the end of the season, we can’t afford to lose players with his experience at this point in time. Same goes for Willo. Both need replacing in the first team, but we still need squad back up.
39 BigKirky // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Papiss9 that forward line is so much more balanced isn’t it. I’m sure it’ll look comfortable straight from the off.
40 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:56 AM
This “Pardew is a puppet” line is really starting to get tedious. A blind man on a galloping horse can see how frustrated he has been since the summer. For the last 3 months we have had players who were not good enough. But what is Pards supposed to do? Slate them? Then he has poor players, with even less confidence, and waiting for the window to open. Now it is open he has been honest. He said the club got it wrong in the summer, using the word “we” even though it should have been “they”. The board let him down. He has now said that players who are development players are in the first team, and that it’s wrong.
He has promised players in. We have one already. He has said we will have another in within the week, and that if its a striker he will cost more than Ba.
He has also stated that the prospect players will continue to be brought into the club. So the plan was to bring in 2, and replace any departures. So I fully expect to see a striker and a CB brought in, and perhaps a pre contract agreement with Sissokho.
Personally, I would rather spend more on the CB than striker if we have to prioritise. Toby would be the preference I think, then Sakho. I know people think we shouldn’t be penny pinching but it’s the way it is and I am tired of the arguments about it after 5 years!!
The perfect situation would be Alderwiereld and Aubameyang. Oh, and I would have Frank Lampard tomorrow as we need a leader. Won’t happen though.
Add Sissokho and another defender in the summer and we are in business. But please stop saying Pardew is a puppet, because if you can’t see his frustration then you are completely blind, or too stubborn to see it.
41 geordie157 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Spuggy,
Spot on there, unless Gosling comes back and has an impact this season, i think it’s best for him and us that he moves on in the summer.
Being greedy i’d add a winger to that, more for the summer window. Someone that can play on both wings but has the ability to track back. Might be difficult to find someone who fits that profile, but basically a Barnetta type.
42 Papiss9 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM
BigKirky
Agree
Suddenly teams will be affraid of our attacking players again,
43 geoff777 // Jan 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Drenthe is very inconsistent and has serious attitude problem.
44 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:00 AM
of course hes a puppet he does what hes told or he would be sacked. yesterdaywas an ideal opportunity to play who he wanted but went with his favourite underprefomers
45 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:00 AM
JB
No argument there a number of our squad are just not good enough. Although people complain about the weak selection, out of players (supposedly) fit to play, I think only Marveaux and Krul would have come in if that was a premier league match. That is what is worrying!
Sammy, Tav and Dummy should be back on loan, but until 2 or three new faces arrive, can we afford to? If they stay here, is our coaching good enough to bring through youngsters? We have rarely improved young players at Newcastle since the start of the Premier league. Even when we have signed top youngsters we have managed to coach natural ability out.
46 geoff777 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:02 AM
@sirtoongospel
We need a striker … in fact we need 2 or 3.
To replace Ba, Lovenkrands and Best.
If Cisse is crocked … we have Shola.
A CB is need but a striker or two is essential.
He needs to hit the ground running too or we’ll go down.
We have the worst form in the league and have just sold our only goal scorer.
47 Oldgit1 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Not been back on this site since the close of the summer transfer window, when I had a major rant regards the lack of signings. It sickened me to the obvious lack of ambition by the owner and did see the current struggle coming. I have supported the toon as man and boy for nearly sixty years and have only the fairs cup win as a memory. Except for the KK era the style of football has always been hoof ball, even from the days of the mighty wyn davies. This club has always gone for a tall centre forward and played to the guys strength. We have never tried to move forward from this style of football. I feel physically sick at the way this club gives you false dawns and hopes,. I have wasted my lifetime following this team not to mention the many thousands spent in supporting my home team, and for what, to be let down time and time again. I have stuck up for the likes of willo, simpson and amobie, but no more, even I can realise they are not up to standard and do know that collo is not and never will be a good captain for the team. We need a prroper
48 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Lilongwe Geordie
I honestly think the weak selection was simply down to our league position, we cannot afford to loose anyone else.
Can you imagine the reaction if he had played Colo and Cisse yesterday and they had both picked up knocks keeping them out for a few week’s???
He would have been hung from the nearest lamp post.
49 OneAlanShearer // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Nufc-83. What a load of rubbish. The only hand we’ve not shown the best team spirit in that I’ve seen from any team in recent history was yesterday’s and we simply didn’t want to win it. Pardew has only made one mistake and that is trying to please Ba by playing him instead of Cisse through the centre. Ba caused that by no longer wanting to play wide in what was a successful formation the 2nd half of last season. Ba unsettled the side as a result. Wanting the manager out is idiotic. The going gets tough do sack the manager, those ae the actions of z spoilt little kid. Pardew has been dealt the same hand we all have and has been very clever in his thinly veiled attacks on the management. He’s right the management didn’t back him jn the summer sufficiently and now we reap the rewards. It would bd pathetic to sack him now and we’d get the likes of JFK as manager if we did. Fantasy football is were some people’s heads are. Di Matteo, like ee’d get him. What manager would put up with the lack of support Pardew has. Now is the time to support him and side nog sack him. Anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.
50 BandB // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM
I’ve always tried to base my ideas on reading what is actually being said by the club and how it could be interpreted in the context of what we already know. But right now it’s impossible to have a clue what the plan is, or what the bottom line is for those in charge. In fairness to Pardew, he has just said plainly that we need more signings, now. Not exactly “back me or sack me.” But hardly mealy-mouthed either. Last week he said he feared the buying policy had not changed, and exhibit A is Ba paying for Debuchy. Is another big “outgoing” being quietly arranged?
Whether it’s paper talk or not, Pardew will know that his players will have at least read the reports that his skipper wants out. Colo hasn’t been exactly vocal this season in backing the club’s direction.
From the Purple Gang, silence. If the manager is uneasy, it seems reasonable for me to be uneasy too.
Still, Debuchy chose to sign. That’s almost like a goal against the run of play, and appears to stand in contrast to the doom and gloom analysis.
By all that’s decent, the ownership should level with the fans. But instead, they keep their hands in our pockets, their foot on our neck, say nowt, and let the fans turn on the manager. Happy 2013 everyone.
51 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM
John Tudor what other options did Pardew have yesterday, ?The team picked itself there are so many out.
52 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM
I firmly believe that our coaching staff have to take a large proportion of the blame for the failure of the kids to step up to the plate this season. It has been a while since we have had a top quality progressive coach at the club. Steve Round was the best we had and he only stayed 1 year.
53 Indian Magpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:05 AM
HUGE NEWS: Chelsea have reached an agreement with Málaga to sign Isco for a £15 million transfer fee.
54 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:05 AM
here here dyson and tony green jimmy smith
55 geordie157 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:05 AM
If we miss out Remy, it might not be a bad thing, as Aubameyang is younger and admittedly he’d be more of gamble as he’s only really had one and half seasons of scoring regulary. The big plus for me is he likes playing through the middle and on the left of a 3, whereas Remy is middle or right sided, so Ben Arfa can stay on the right where he is more effective than on the left.
Surely Doumbia is on our list of targets too.
56 AusMagpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 AM
I am praying to the gods that we sign a CB, DM and a striker before next weekend – not by the end of January.
57 bills-son // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Nudc83 – no fight or desire? Did you watch the ManU and Arsenal games??
We might have been crap yesterday with a reserve side full of non performing kids but we took the game to two of the top sides on their own patch and scored six goals. Yes we lost both games but don’t give me this no fight or desire crap. A total overreaction.
58 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 AM
amobie out campbell in old dude out marv in krul in cisse in ameobi out
59 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM
JB
I would have liked a ‘weaker’ selection. I would have given Streete and Campbell games. If he had played Colo and Cisse it would have been ridiculous, but as it is Perch went off with a knock, and Shola is now suspended. Is there any news on the Perch knock?
Are Cisse and Colo over their knocks. I’m not convinced they were real injuries, but it wouldn’t be the first time Pards has described something as minor and then the player has been out for a month.
60 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:09 AM
hey it was the fa cup those ones in have shown nothing but failure
61 Jail for Ashley // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Mike Ashley is rotten to the core, every time Ed puts a headline picture of his toad like face, I feel like being sick.
62 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM
John Tudor.Elliot had a good game, I will give you Marv though. Campbell though is a kid. nobody has any idea how good he is yet. Pardew can only play the hand he is dealt and at the moment he has little in the way of options.
63 AwToonnufc // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/newcastle-make-offer-valenciennes-defender-nicolas-isimat-mirin-3731921?utm_source=main_feed#.UOlapKWyd7E……….
Would definitely take this lad at the toon, he looks like he could be a top player, Apparently we’ve made a £5 million bid but thats probably bollocks. Would still want another CB as well as this guy though as he is still young and we need some one with experience straight away to help keep us up.
64 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:13 AM
hey but thats my opinion im not the manager nor is anyone else on here merely opinions if you dont like mine read on if i dont like others i bypass them
65 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM
John Tudor, what team should he have picked yesterday then? Please enlighten us all.
66 Indian Magpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Scott Wilson ?@Scottwilsonecho
Sunday People saying Chelsea poised to complete £15m signing of Isco. Now if only someone could persuade them to stick an X on the front…
67 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM
We need to sign 2 or 3 new players by Tuesday and have them training on Tuesday or Wednesday in time for the Norwich game! this game is a win or probably be relegated game!
68 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Why do ppl say they wouldn’t play mirin bcoz he’s 21 but they would play mbwia n sahko who are 22
69 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:16 AM
yes and shola has done what id give campbell the nod if hed got sent off tough learning curve you get injuries in games sendings off live with it but he could have used other players in my opinion
70 Mister Tuff // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM
I just don’t believe that “Dirty Harry” slaverchops is rushing to France to sign Remy.
If he is going to France today it’s probably a booze and tab run to Calais. Don’t panic.
71 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Indian, nobody gives a toss who Chelsea buys.
72 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Am sorry but I surely can’t b the only person who can’t understand why players like remy n mvilla would even consider going to qpr
73 Nufc-83 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM
United and arsenal away are easy games to motivate the players but overall this season we have lacked fighting spirit and the solidarity that we showed last season.
74 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Sorry crossed posts. Cisse is injured. No way could he have played yesterday. Marveaux I agree but the rest picked itself. One thing though, what has Fergie done to be so out if favour? I thought he was a cert to start yesterday
75 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM
I agree Campbell should b playing over shola
76 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM
QPR vrs Tottenham
VILLA vrs SOUTHAMPTON
Norwich vrs NEWCASTLE
READING vrs West Brom
SUNDERLAND vrs West Ham
Fulham vrs WIGAN
77 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM
isco i a decent little player
78 geordie157 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM
talking of Xisco, it seems like he’s vanished again.
79 Indian Magpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Tequila
He is very good player, dubbed the New Cesc. Wish we could have been in the running
80 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM
John Tudor, it`s hard for me to see how playing more kids would help the situation. Kids should be introduced gradually into a strong team where their weaknesses can be covered by more experienced players around them. All you would be doing is setting them up to fail.
81 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM
davybtoon – Sakho and Mbiwa have been good for a couple of seasons not 6 month…. both full Internationals and Sakho is one if not the best defender france have got
82 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Gt89 them the fixtures for this weekend interesting stuff we definitely need a win then
83 Nufc-83 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Pardew blatantly made up the injuries to cisse and Colo yesterday as he didn’t want to risk them yet didn’t want the backlash if we went out and also it would be an insult to the fans that travelled down.
84 Slank // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM
John Tudor
Why don’t you name the players who were not injured, who were not at the African nations and who not on the field of play or bench at Brighton that Pardew could have selected.
When you have done that then people will take your comments seriously.
85 BelfastMagpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM
There’s no way Campbell is going to start a game. He’s only a kid.
They should loan him out & see how he gets on first.
86 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Indian, but we were never in the running to buy him so how is Chelsea buying him huge news for us ?
87 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Yeah mate all on Saturday at 3pm except QPR they early kick off 12:45
88 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Carr thinks mirin is good says it all for me of course sahko n mbwia are class but just bcoz mirin is 21 don’t mean he can’t go straight in our 11
89 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM
as i said im not the manager nor are you so i would decline the opportunity to disclose my teams but my feeling is hes stopped from expression or hes a puppet
90 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Arsenal said to be talking to Mbiwa.
Sakho would be my choice
91 Indian Magpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Tequila
I guess i should not have copied that
92 AusMagpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Debuchy — Mirin — Colo — Santon
———- Sissoko ——- Tiote ———-
—————— Cabaye —————-
——- Ben Arfa ———- Remy ——-
——————– Cisse ——————
Just imagining it makes me excited! Please pull it off!
Does anybody know when Ben Arfa is actually due back though? Will he make the Norwich game?
93 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Gt89 could big weekend then if we can beat Norwich we would drag them into like them we’ve reading next week
94 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:25 AM
@Davy
Sad reality is its down to money. If you’re a 26 year old player with maybe 5 or 6 years left to play do you go for the 4 year 35-40k contract or the 4 year 70-80k contract and double your nest egg?
Loyalty ceased to be a commodity in football long ago. The only currency these days is money or glory. The clubs that consistantly win things attract better players unfortunately.
95 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:26 AM
well i bow you your knowledge of the game but truly ashley pardew and all klingers need to get now i will never go again to st james but will continue to travel to away games
96 Sinner // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Remy Cabella anyone?
97 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Indian,, no problems mate just a little out of patience with some of the posts on here today.
98 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:28 AM
@Aus
Ben Arfa still training on his own, not with the squad. Probably looking at start of Feb?
99 Slank // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Upon reflection and given our very serious injury list and our perilous league position it is arguable that yesterdays defeat was probably a good thing, perhaps not in the manner of the defeat but the result itself.
The club can now concentrate on the league which in reality is far more important than the FA Cup for which we have a pretty poor record. I don’t even care whether we progress in Europe. Survival is the most paramount objective from now till the end of the season.
100 magpie6699 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Just one comment on the “Typical Ashley – we should have strengthened in the summer” theme – with which I fully agree in terms of the defence. It is not the first time this has happened, and it wasn’t Ashley last time. Does anyone else recall a transfer window where we barely strengthened under SBR / Freddie (maybe bought Bowyer or something) and we lost our Champions League qualifier and had a relatively poor season. Lots of criticism there. My point being that it isn’t just Ashley who tries to get by with minimal investment gambles.
101 Indian Magpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Some players that we can sign from France
Mathew Peybernes – sochaux
Banjamin Stambouli – Montpellier
Loris Nery – Valenciennes
Chris Mavinga – Rennes
102 AusMagpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM
@Sir Braveheart
Ah, so hopefully back in time for the Chelsea game. Good timing!
103 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM
GeordieToon89……….WTF!!!
Win or probably be relegated game? Is it the middle of May an I have slept for 5 months??? The next 3 games are important, but the fact remains that there are some poor teams around us. We need 6 wins from our remaining fixtures, and we will get them easily.
Cabaye back with Cisse through the middle is a great start. When we add another forward and get HBA back, even Jonas will look the part again in defensive mode.
He ha no end product, but there is no way we would concede so many with him in the side. Marv is so much better going forward, but sometimes you need to tighten it up, and Jonas can help do that. If I remember rightly, we scrapped to a win last year, against Norwich. It wasn’t pretty but it fired us up. We won 6 on the bounce. It can happen again. We just need to fight for the first one. My prediction is a minimum of 5 points from the next 3 games in a little unbeaten run. 7 would be better though!!
Get a draw this week then we can give the boys a proper show of support back at SJP. Watch Cisse go with these players back in the side, plus Debuchy who is better at both ends of the pitch than Simpson.
104 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Im thinking whoever we go for might be off the radar so to speak, I mean few people predicted we’d buy Anita or Bigi at the start of summer and I think they’re both coming good. Maybe the players we’ve got lined up will surprise us?
105 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM
i dont come on here to fulfill an ambition or to have friends i come on to vent my feelings im over 60 yo i have seen great sides some sh1t3 too but this has to end these are my opinions some not far from yourselves but you slate me ashley= money grabber pardew = puppet majority of team greedy lazy good for nothing the whole setup stinks when you realize itll be too late . thats all ill say for a while but wake up smell the coffee
106 Tommyy // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:36 AM
It’s the lack of fight and spirit that is most worrying. We have no leaders, no determination, no confidence and frankly no idea. That is what I’ll ultimately send us down, 1 or 2 players here and there will not make the difference. The problems are too deeply ingrained.
107 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:36 AM
I reckon this mirin n thauvin will really add to team/squad n if we could remy/aubeymang n say a sissohko we will really b flying second half of season
108 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Getting beat off teams like norwich will be a confidence killer, plus it will move them further away from us.. Southampton are playing better and getting results, QPR will only buy more players to get out of trouble, Wigan are getting results, Reading I can see staying down there even though they owner is a billionaire.. Villa a can see buying a few players and getting a few results, therefore we NEED to win! If we win I can actually see us flying up the league all we need is a win to get us up and running
109 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM
And as for the conspiracy theories, Cisse WAS carrying a strain. I can tell you that for a fact.
110 cestriasteve // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM
I think the journalists on Sunday supplement got it spot on no leaders out there yesterday.
On the transfer front I would take Hagerland any day, no older than colo I think and will get a few goals front set pieces. Bring the young French guy Mirin as well and then buy SIssoko. I might get shouted down for this one but Danny Graham as a possible CF?
111 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Not seen much of Mirin or Thauvin, but Sakho and Sissohko would be class additions, additions that we desperately need
112 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM
thauvin wont add anything that Adam Campbell or Nile Ranger wouldnt add by playing more.. he’s got 2 in 16 in the crappy french league
113 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:39 AM
John Tudor, no offence intended and your just as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. As a Leazes ender since 75 I have also witnessed many ups and mostly downs since then.
But when you post an an opinion on a blog you have to accept other people who disagree are going to challenge that.
114 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:39 AM
SirToonGospel
We won’t be relegated if we lose to Norwich failing to pick up 2 wins from our next 3 though will leave us perilously close but there is still time.
Also agree that Jonas would have made a huge difference last few games. He may not be the best winger anymore, but we certainly look more solid with him in the team, and with Tiote away, and his recent form, I would have Jonas in that holding role when he is fit, unless we sign someone for that position.
115 Slank // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Sir Braveheart @ 104
I agree mate. All the other clubs in the league know that we have a very good scouting network and once we start sniffing around a foreign club it starts alarm bells ringing that perhaps there is someone at the foreign club that could be bought at a modest price.
Best to keep our cards close to our chests, so to speak !
116 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Cestria, Danny Graham would be a great squad player fr little money. He would give anything to play for us, even as a squad player.
117 Sazzer // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Yeah, Cabella should be on list if can’t get a striker-winger. Liverpools said to be sort on cash for Ince. Like Stambouli as well.
118 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Gt89- thauvin plays in ligue1 n yes I’d have Adam Campbell playing aswell, I seem from Adam Campbell in his 10min cameo at Cardiff than I’ve seen from shola all season
119 Sinner // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Qpr-a-fait-une-offre-pour-m-vila/340410
Lequipe reporting we’re interested in Mvila.
120 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM
campbell in we know the ameobis game marv and campbell would have been better in my opinion but as i said im not the manager but why didnt padrew do it coz ashley will have told him
121 SeanNufc87 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM
I love how few opinions get changed on here regardless of facts presented or evidence to the contrary. best thing I’ve read all day was someone suggesting pep g as replacement for pardew, I laughed for ages. to that person, why do you think rafa Benitez is an interim manager? peps on a sabbatical… probably until rafa contract expires…
122 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Yes Danny graham is someone I’d love here, the way shola strolls around the pitch you would think he supports Sunderland
123 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM
davybtoon – Ano he plays in ligue 1.. The french league is poor compared to the premier league
124 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM
John Tudor, are you seriously suggesting Ashley picks the team?
125 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM
@Sirtoon
I agree the situation isnt as bleak as some are making out. And I think 5 points out of Norwich, Reading and Villa is very possible. Im expecting nothing against Chelsea or Spurs after that (although a draw is possible) then its Southampton Swansea Stoke and Wigan and Id like to think we can pick up 8-9 points there with a injury free squad.
126 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM
do you know how a 60 inch plasma tv costs cos i do when my boot smashed mine yesterday
127 GeordieToon89 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Sinner – That says if Tiote leaves which he will not leave this month as he’s in Africa
128 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Gt89 – I’d say any player you bought from the French or any foreign player from dutch spanish leagues say will b more technically gifted than any English player n therefore will improve us
129 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:47 AM
no pardew just writes it down remember ashley in a smithy shirt
130 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Davyb, really The Mackem slayer is a Sunderland supporter.
Heard it all now
131 SeanNufc87 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:47 AM
@John Tudor
lol really? pardew didn’t play marvaux and Campbell because MA said so? you seem to have the makings of a conspiracy there. what’s MA’s motive for such a team selection? and also working with your previous posts we should fire MA for picking the wrong team.
132 Sinner // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:48 AM
Tiote would not be a miss if we sign Mvila, lets be truthful, he has been a shadow of himself this season.
133 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:48 AM
campbell to arsenal marv to bordaux hahah
134 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM
This blog is turning into a blog for conspiracy theorists
135 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Danny Graham over Shola all day.
136 SeanNufc87 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM
@geordietoon89
that’s why psg are one of the most frightening teams in Europe
137 Sazzer // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:52 AM
It’s says Thauvin is mf on wiki. They have a target player named varenne compared with Giroud on wiki.
138 bambams // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Great piece in The MAG (found it on newsnownewcastle) re the St James Park conspiracy.
Makes good reading and i cant argue with it.
139 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Tequliamag – if you read my post properly I said the way shola plays for us you would think he’s a Mackem ie he’s lazy looks like he isn’t trying n well basically he’s crap
140 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM
no i merely pointed out the only way to stop ashley is to stop his cash flow ill will go back to watch them when he has left even if we are in the northern league he is not a buisness man but a poriah on society
141 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM
I have to say, I really hope we put a result or two together, as that Chelsea game is gonna be a corker. Last season we knew we were gonna stroke Liverpool. The atmosphere was insane.
I have a feeling Chelsea won’t like it up here this time. BA definitely won’t!!
Cisse hat trick in a 4-1 win would be a dream come true. 2 wins from the next 3 or 5 points in a little unbeaten run would be superb.
142 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM
DavyB I did read your post, you said” the way shola strolls around the pitch you would think he supports Sunderland”
Ask a Sunderland supporter how much they like Shola
143 SeanNufc87 // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM
@John Tudor
so your a fair weather supporter?
144 BelfastMagpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM
I think we’ll get 4 points from the next 3 games.
And if Villa kick on from yesterday, it will be 3 points from the next 3 games.
Our away form is terrible & people think we’re going to win two away games on the trot. Haha
145 cestriasteve // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM
onTiote, is his dip in form due to the fact that he hasn’t played with Cabaye all season, also noticed last season when he was injured or not present it takes him a long time to get back up to speed. I can’t for life of me understand why Pardew hasn’t played Marv in that central distributing midfield role that Cabaye excels at.
146 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Cestria, if you have not noticed he has played Marv in that role.
147 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Jan 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM
new to living tv this spring – conspiracies with john tudor
148 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:00 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8383105?
Only if we pay which seems unlikely going by previous windows
149 SeanNufc87 // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:01 PM
@ppb
really? you think it would get on living? be lucky to get on YouTube imo
150 sirtoongospel // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Mike Ashley is not a businessman??? Lol. Heard it all now. Come on, that’s all he is. He has turned us into a well run, profitable business. It takes a clever person to do it when soapy clubs are struggling. The side issue is that it’s one big massive kick in the stones to us lot!!!
But a businessman he is. A good one. But it doesn’t see us get to the top of the league any time soon!
Anyway, I am off to Paris for a week. Enjoy your week chaos. Fingers crossed for a big signing soon. Failing that I will kidnap Sakho on the way back!
151 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:01 PM
John Tudor – Ashly is no worse than sir John hall or Shepard did you stop goin when they were in charge n destroyed our chance of domination
152 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:02 PM
and that may not be long . we need minimum 6 players this window not future prospects but quality performers strip the dead wood out as soon as possible will pardew achieve this will ashley sanction this no kept your heads in the sand blindley follow them to oblivion or act now .when this window closes and all we have to show is 1 /2 players and very few points youll see they are breaking hearts tempers will soon follow arise the loyalist fans and fight for your club
153 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Ashly will spend bcoz he will not risk us losing out on that huge new tv deal next season
154 Indian Magpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Perch on the treatment table
155 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:05 PM
no i alays go away games as for bad boards westwood ffin pirate hey riddicule me all you like when the ship goes down i told you so
156 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Its worth pointing out that in the last four games we put 3 past Man Utd at Old Trafford and 3 past Arsenal at the Emirates. Thats without Cabaye or Ben Arfa. If we could get our defence sorted imagine what would be possible.
Yes its been a shocking season and yes it has shown how thin our squad is on quality, and hopefully the club have learned its best not to gamble on transfers if a little extra will get the bodies you need through the door. HOWEVER there are still positives there for those that want to find them.
157 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM
no i always go away games as for bad boards westwood ffin pirate hey riddicule me all you like when the ship goes down i told you so
158 cestriasteve // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Tequila I really rate the bloke, it must be so frustrating for a player to suffer from all those injuries and then when you come back you get your confidence knocked for six playing Everton away. I really hope Pardew starts playing him a lot more from now on.
159 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:07 PM
John Tudor – am sorry but if fans like you ran our club we b out of business in less than 2 seasons n we would achieve no success why? Bcoz you like to think you kno what’s best for the club you would b changing manager every 3/4months
160 seantoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Geordietoon89
From the fixtures you put up earlier which team would you pick out as a banker win. Take away tottenham though. Just for the last 8 weeks I’ve been involved in a game where u pick a team each week. I’ve had all the top 6 teams. I’m thinking westbrom. It’s worth £100 if I get it right
161 Shot Bru // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:08 PM
John Tudor….How about match fixing for a conspiracy as an explanation for yesterdays performance?
After all Ashley, LLambias and Pardew enjoy a bet… a survey of 100 professional players in this weeks issue of 442 mag reckon 1 in 6 players have firm evidence of match fixing.
162 bambams // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:08 PM
I can see where the issues look similar when Shep was in charge, he was just a daft bloke who supported the Toon and liked the publicity for himself rather than ash wants it for his SD and to add profits.
Blindly, i will always appreciate Sir John and those magical years …..Yes he took a lot of money with him i know.
I organised a Peter Beardsley talk in a few years ago and he was very defensive of the Sir John era, he pointed out nobody else was willing to put their money in at the time he did. I am sure we will have ppl for and against on this issue.
Ashley just wants mid table safety, advertise SD and spend as little as possible. IMO
163 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Cestria he has played in the attacking midfield role in the last 3 games and has done really well in that position even though we lost them. I had doubts about him but he has kind of won me over. It just seems an odd criticism of Pardew when he is doing exactly what you are asking of him to do.
164 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM
* last 3 PL games, agree we could have done with him starting yesterday
165 two steps forward one step back // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM
davyb
If the Toon had an owners league then Batman and Shepherds would both be in the drop zone. Both poor but Batman would be above Shepherd’s on GD (that’s greed difference)
166 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Like to add before I go that all the people saying on previous threads buy a CB and sell Willo are not really thinking straight. We still need Willo, like it or not. A club needs 4 solid CBs. We have Colo and Staylor. Even if we get a new CB in we’ll still need Willo for back up for when Staylors back on the treatment table. Same with Simpson. We need players in this window and not to lose anyone. If we buy another CB and RB in the summer and have cover then they can go (Simpson will be gone by then anyway).
167 headtheball // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM
onealanshearer@49
Pardew has only made one mistake and we should support him or we are idiots? I think quite a few people on here would disagree but why call other supporters with a different opinion idiots?
168 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Sheppard spent money with no regard for the future and was far too interested in his own profile.
Ashley refuses to spend money claiming to be taking care of the future and doesn’t give a shyte about his profile.
We need someone in the middle is we are ever to move forward
169 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM
How can Ashly just want mid table safety when he sanctions the signings of hba cabaye tiote cisse santon debuchy Anita marveux constantly signing players like this is not gonna get you mid table it’s gonna get you champions league
170 cestriasteve // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:16 PM
tequila, I work in retail so have missed the whole of Xmas , had a laugh yesterday was on my lunch and popped into mulligans a famous Irish pub in Manchester to watch some of the game . just about to kick off an in walks a rat!! Then 2 minutes later 5 Sunderland fans per Bolton… Well you can imagine the craic!!!
171 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:17 PM
conspiracy or not yes he has stablized the club for what purpose only a cash cow for himself he knows the value of assets when hes done we will be in a worse state than other eras these are my thought only to be lambastered on her you all know the out come gie yer heeds a shake when i cut myself i bleed blackn white so dont give me any of yer shit you all know ashleys plan
172 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Jb – if ppl hate Ashly bcoz they want success then they must hate Shepard more who blow are bigger ever chance of success
173 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:18 PM
davy
We have signed some great players under Ashley, we just haven’t signed enough of them.
4 or 5 more quality additions would make a massive difference.
If ever we have needed his backing in the transfer market it’s now
174 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM
will we get it no period
175 tequilamag // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Cestria, lol I kinda wished I had missed all of December. Has not been a happy experience football wise
176 spennymoor-mag // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM
It’s graham Carr I feel for! He does a tremendous job finding these players! Puts in a lot of hard work travelling around Europe watching games looking for players for us. What’s the point? If Ashley won’t back us up.
177 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM
davy
I have to say that I hate Sheppard more, as he turned us into a soap opera, forced KK out and oversaw our downfall from a brilliant side into a farce
178 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Jb – we could get 3/4 players we need now we could work on getting better squad players
179 bambams // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM
@davybtoon….
Those players fella were all purchased from profits made selling players. If he had wanted to push on for CL he would have improved us in the summer.
I was a little worried when we only announced the signing of Debuchy (who had been here almost three days) after Ba was signed by Chelski and obviously used his transfer money for Debuchy.
It only took us 4/5 hours to sign Cisse in last Jan window if we believe what Pards said at the time,
Ash wont spend much, just enough. But that’s just my opinion and may be wrong fella.
180 two steps forward one step back // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM
JB
And a night of the long knives clear out of the dead wood and never will bes in the reserve and development sides
181 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM
I dont buy the talk of Ashley wanting mid table obscurity and promoting SD. This is a man who goes to casinos and willingly loses a million in one night. Why? He doesnt need the money he could win, its the glory. He’s a multi millionaire, money isnt important to him anymore. What he wants is glory. He cant get it with SD but he can with a football club.
I bet if you offered him the chance to sell the club and make back everything he’s put in plus 30 million or winning the Capitol One League Cup he’d take the cup. Glory and acceptance is what Ashley want more than money.
182 BelfastMagpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Davy I would say If Ashley had to pay the market value for any of those players. We wouldn’t have signed any of them.
183 JackButler // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:23 PM
if we get 3/4 starters now then those that they replace will drop back to squad players. We don’t need any prospects at this point in time,we need players that can come straight into the first team and make an impact
184 Mister Tuff // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:23 PM
John Tudor did you really put your foot through your plasma screen yesterday?
185 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:24 PM
Jb – I totally agree I hate Shepard more n I hate when fans go on about how much better we were under him, when all I see is downward spiral from when we should of been prem champs n dominated for decades he took us the complete opposite way
186 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM
This whole scenario is down to thestupid ‘purples’ plan in which we have 11 starting players and 11 not so good ones that are supposed to raise their game when they play.
Should have 2 senior players for each position. In our defence alone: Krul/Elliott, Coloccini/Williamson, S.Taylor/Tavernier, Santon/R.Taylor, Debuchy/Simpson. Note that before Debuchy’s signing it would have included one of Ferguson or Dummett as back-up, and other back-ups like Willo and Simmo are Championship standard. For the record I class Perch as a defensive midfielder too.
187 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Belfast that’s why Ashly is a fantastic business man that fact he can get us these players so cheap is brilliant
188 bambams // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Sir Braveheart….
He blows millions in the Casino to get tapped mate !
Sorry fella, could not help myself.
189 John Tudor // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:29 PM
no i took it off and threw it hit pardew right on the bonce
190 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Compared to Spurs: Lloris/Friedel, Walker/Kaboul, Gallas/Dawson, Vertonghen/Caulker, Assou-Ekotto/Naughton. That’s without their promising youngsters Fryers and Smith. Why don’t we produce good young defenders?
191 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Just on dummett thought he was our bes player yesterday loan done him world of good n he should b back up to santon or loaned back for rest of season
192 BelfastMagpie // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:30 PM
I dont agree Davy. We wouldn’t be in this current mess if they had of paid the market value in the summer, in my opinion.
And apparently Remy is starting for Marseille today.
So the itk’s are talking shite again.
Just for a change lol
193 davybtoon // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:33 PM
Ohaholaameobi – we have some great young defenders coming through streete, satka, dummett n tavernier plus good
194 OhSholaAmeobi // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Davyb
I don’t really rate tavernier, as soon as pardew described him as ‘looking like danny simpson’, he was spot on haha.
I hope to god that streete, kitchen, good and dummett turn out decent, was impressed with dummett yesterday.
I mean in comparison to other clubs, our development team is one of the worst in the league
195 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM
It’d be best if we sacked Shola Willo and Simmo and lose £5m rather than getting relegated and losing £60m plus our best players.
It’s a no brainer to me. The above are costing us points.
196 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:41 PM
@Bambams
Ha ha. Fair do’s.
This seasons been (another) harsh lesson for him. Last term he played hard ball over players and got bargains for yhem. This year that same stubborness has cost us dear. He’ll learn from it.
Look at relegation year, manager after manager and we got relegated and laughed out the premier league. Ashley learns, is convinced Pardew can do the job so gives him an 8 year contract.
Ashley speaks out to the fans, gets jeered, creates a bad relationship with the fans through his comments that destabilises the club. Ashley learns and over the last 12 months we’ve heard nothing from him. He’s stayed out the limelight and I think he’s better for it.
Tries renaming stadium. Huge backlash. Ashley learns and makes sure new sponsors choose to keep it as St James Park. (you dont think Wonga opted to do that themselves do you?).
Whatever you think about Ashley, he learns. The lessons may be painful, but he is learning.
197 one Tony Green // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:41 PM
@ Davybtoon Agree totally Shepherd took the piss out the fans in News of the World, sold Sir Les, sacked Sir Bobby at the bequest of the dickhead fans and left the club with massive deby they walked away with 35 million as well as taking out 12 million in wages. Oh I forgot fat Freddy is a Geordie so that is ok.
We are shite period but I will always support us and always go to matches because NUFC are our club
198 one Tony Green // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM
@ John Tudor I did not see anyone down at Brighton carrying a 60 inch plasma telly.
Just you said you put your foot through yours and yet go to all the away matches so I assume you take they telly with you!!’n
199 Sir Braveheart // Jan 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM
@Kets
And who takes their places? And if those players bought in to replace them are injured or suspended do we draft in the kids to play? Because that worked great on Saturday.
Those players are only playing because of necessity. Do you really think Pardew wants these players in his starting 11?
200 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 6, 2013 at 1:28 PM
We have Xisco who is the second best striker in our team at the moment. We’re paying him £50k per week. We need to utilise him.
Also, Streete and Good can’t be worse than Willo. Tav is on a par with Simmo (they both need selling).
If I was the manager, I’d let the following players go out on loan:
Sammi Ameobi
Vuckic (when fit)
Streete (when we’ve signed another defender)
Amalfitano (short loan to a championship or ligue one team)
Nile Ranger
Paul Dummett
Adam Campbell
We need to sell these players:
Tavernier
Simpson
Shola Ameobi
Williamson
Obertan (not a footballer)
Gutierrez (if form continues to dip)
Coloccini (if form continues to dip and if he wants out)
Dan Gosling (useless player)
I’d sign:
Sissoko
Alderewield
Mbiwa
Denswil
Sulejmani
Remy
Benteke (if Villa go down)
Boudebouz
M’Vila (if we sell Tiote)
Cheick M’Bengue
201 Rotonda heights // Jan 6, 2013 at 1:59 PM
to all the Pardew lovers. I get the injuries issue to a point as an excuse. But why can’t you explain all his other weird and wonderful antics such as playing Benny in a totally meaningless match, weird formations, hoof ball, negative approach to try not to lose more than win, bizarre subs, no plan B, banning fans from his one tactic training sessions, passive acceptance of our situation with uninspiring body language to match the players. Colo the captain and Ba chief scorer both openly saying they don’t like the style. Colo may be a winner, Pardew certainly isn’t.
All you ever say is injuries and not enough players but you never give satisfactory reasons for these and many other valid questions like why is Hughton doing so well on very limited resources.
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