Alan Pardew has come out and basically said that we will be short of players against Norwich City too because James Perch has picked up a knee injury and it’s doubtful he will be able to play at Carrow Road.
James Perch – will miss the game at Norwich
James was going to play in that game – probably in defensive midfield, so we;’ll have to play young Gael Bigirimana in that position, who was or Man of the Match on Saturday, but it makes sense that Pardew wanted to put out experienced players as much as possible at Norwich.
This is what Alan said today in the Newcastle Journal:
“The most important thing now is that we keep a steady head.” “Myself and my staff are frustrated because we wanted to put out a better side.”
“Now we’re working around the clock to get players in and players back because there’s no doubt about it, the form we’re in, the momentum we’ve got, we’re fighting to stay in the Premier League. I make no bones about saying that.”
“Look at that Everton game, we were probably one quality player away from getting a draw or maybe winning it. We know we’re not far away but we really should be a lot stronger than that in the third round of the FA Cup.”
“The one that worries me is Perchy because he in reality would play at Norwich.” “It looks like he’s going to miss that.” “There was a clash of knees and he’s got a big swelling on his knee. We’re not quite sure why that is yet.”
“And now Shola is suspended on the back of Cheick heading off on international duty and Demba Ba joining Chelsea, we are very, very short. I think the board understand that and I think we need to do something about it.”
“I would have liked to have brought one more player in during the summer transfer window. I thought Debuchy was going to get done but it didn’t. “Fortunately that is done now, so he will be available for Norwich. That is going to strengthen us because I think that’s been a problem position for us.”
“Hopefully we’re going to get a little bit stronger as we go now.” “I’ve got a united dressing room, the experience is strong, we just need our better players out on the pitch.”
We’re not sure why we are in this position after such a great season last term, and yes we’ve had an awful lot of injuries, but it doesn’t say much for the fringe players who have come in, and after the game at Brighton Alan Pardew said basically that the players were simply not good enough.
And one depressing thing is he is right – and look for a clear-out of players this summer – whether we go down or stay up.
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1 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 8:59 AM
Repost:
I know I might sound like a broken record, but why didn’t this work start in December?
…they should know by now who they are after!!! (and if they are available or not)
2 Indian Magpie // Jan 7, 2013 at 8:59 AM
What shd i say Ed
3 hdavid23 // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:01 AM
this is really getting worse every day……
4 Rotonda heights // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM
Wasn’t one of the reasons pardew got sacked from southampton was the low morale amongst staff.
He’s not exactly Mr Charisma is he.
I know Pardew points to injuries (no – really!!) but have people forgotten how poor we were when our players were fit, playing a negative, 442 hoofball with cisse and ba.
Cabs was played way too deep, benny stuck out on a wing and Jonas getting pilloried by everyone.
Could we go with something like this at Norwich
Krul
Debuchy Colo Mirin??? Santon
Anita Cabs Marveaux
Benny?? Cisse Obertan
5 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM
Never really gona miss in badly in truth but yes another injury is bad
6 lordjoesnow // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM
I think the banner needs changing. Put some puppet strings on Pardew!
7 JAMSHA // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:06 AM
SO PARDEW SAID WE WOULD HAVE A PLAYER THIS WEEK AN NOW HE SOUNDS LIKE THERE WONT BE A SIGNG THIS WEEK…
8 yorkymag // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Why would pardew mean issue of this
Perch has been great ,but he was not going to start at Norwich , he would have been useful on the bench .
Smacks of getting the excuses in eradly at the expense of morale
9 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:07 AM
AP…we all wanted one more player during the summer – a CB
(but it didn’t happen and there was nothing we could do about that besides getting on with it).
…in a perfect world, we would have signed Debuchy as a replacement for Simmo since he wouldn’t sign his contract and we would have signed a replacement for Ba since there was the problem with his contract.
…that would be in a perfect world (would have removed a lot of concern), but we can only speculate whether we would be doing much better or not!
Truth to be told, form is down, players are disappointing and AP needs to do some introspection (the board needs to re-asses the situation and their stance).
10 davybtoon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:09 AM
What’s so hard makes a few bids u know will b excepted agree terms sign them ffs
11 fergies left foot // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM
theres just no way pardew can go back to 4-4-2. Our play since the United-game has been alot more fluid and if he hasnt noticed he shouldnt manage football teams.. ever. We will stay up simply ’cause our first eleven is top six material but then again thats the sort of thinking that brought us down last time around.. however, i try to stay positive for now. Cant wait for saturday!
12 AndyMac // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:10 AM
What do you mean its all starting to sound so depressing Ed ? Its been like this for months !!!!
This is a great article btw.
“We are either Newcastle United or we are not, a folk institution central to the identity of our region or we are not.
The minimum requirement is pride in the shirt and a responsibility to it reflected in commitment and effort in battle.
There was no battle at the Amex Stadium, no desire, no one prepared or able to take the team by the cojones and lead.
The warriors all wore blue and white stripes”
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/newcastle-between-rock-and-hard-place-3343676.html
13 hdavid23 // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:11 AM
i’m so glad i’m supporting other teams as well… Newcastle would’ve made me deeply suicidal by now…
14 Rotonda heights // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM
could we swap Xisco + 5.7M for Michu !!!
Rodgers and laudrup both saw very quickly that carroll
and graham can’t play in passing footballing teams and Michu could be our new Beardo!!
15 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:13 AM
Orville comes out with some shite like why doesnt he just come out with the truth dl said i cant have anyone else because if we do sign anyone we wont make a profit this window
16 yorkymag // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:13 AM
Left foot
I think we are safe re formation
We only have one forward for Norwich now Shola is out
Unless he does something really mad
Always a chance I guess
But let’s look forward to a scrappy 1nil win
17 Rotonda heights // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:15 AM
andymac
i think that is spot on. it’s the complete lack of motivation and fitness in the players. you’d think the young ones would be busting a gut to impress but when you see strolla not givng a rats it’s endemic. This more than injuries worries me.
18 TorqToon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Thai mag – You think Remy is ‘injury prone’?
And Andymac – totally spot on mate! We KNOW we don’t have an available squad capable of competing with the best teams in the country – but regardless of ability or experience – pride and effort should always be at a peak. Too many of our ‘youngsters’ didn’t put any effort in – most notably Sammi ameobi. They are only getting game time as our squad is paper thin – in a different world is loan a few out to lower league clubs where they HAVE to put the effort in.
Just wish we had the squad to do that!
19 JDdubai // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Is that Bassong next to pardew on the banner at the top??
Also we were crap before the injuries, very convenient to blame them now but he is hoping we have all forgotten what we were like early season….442 with crap up front, Jonas on the wing, Cabaye too deep etc
Honestly think he has lost the plot, no excuse to turn away from the 4231 from the end of last season, should have stood up to Ba and told him he will play wherever he is told to play or bugger off, guaranteeing Ba and central role was the first domino to fall and the rest has been a result of that as it caused Cabaye, Jonas, Cisse, HBA to be played in positions that were wrong…
And then to choose Shola at CF ahead of Cisse and leave Cisse on the wing after Ba left, that was the point for me when it is clear he needs to go.
20 Ian Toon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Post match Pardew was asked a question that the likes of Catchy , Rotonda and co routinely roll out, usually after a defeat. Namely, that whilst he has a positive effect on his teams initially this soon wears off and he gets found out. He forcefully made the point that this was a wholly different set of circumstances. Being a united dressing room with no troublemakers good team spirit, total professionalism on and off the field and a visible backing by his bosses who are united in their desire to sort out current difficulties. As in all things time will tell, but I look forward to the doomsayers being forced into whistling a different tune, or just plain stop whistling.
21 Rotonda heights // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:17 AM
in a way with shola out pardew might get lucky more than design and be forced to play 1 striker and less hoofball
22 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:17 AM
@ 4: Like the look of the Team Rotonda!
But it all depends on who is Fit and if Mirin has actually come through the door and signed for us?
@12: Stop having digs at ED ok!
If he was,nt busy every day running this Blog? You would,nt be able to be on here even expressing you r opinions!
23 Jail for Ashley // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM
He ‘thinks’ the board understands and he thinks that we need another player ,he’s also gone from saying last summer that we needed three or four players bringing in to maybe we should have brought Debuchy ,the man is sounding increasingly more clueless as he has his strings pulled by his heartless puppet masters.
24 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM
@13:
Newcastle are the only teeam for Me til i Die!
25 davybtoon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:20 AM
Team for Norwich hopefully
Krul
Debuchy mirin colo santon
Anita cabaye jonas
Marveux cisse obertan
26 hdavid23 // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM
@24
in football, NUFC is the only team for me too mate
27 Rotonda heights // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM
expat
cheers, i know it’s clutching at straws but as i say more by accident than design we may hopefully see something close to it.
I just couldn’t play Williamson any more. nearly every goal is down to him these days. he’s not fit for purpose and if not mirin, i’s be tempted to play streete or recall good, they could hardly do much worse.. I think pardew lost the plot a long time ago though.
28 yorkymag // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Thought for the day
In life there are only two kinds of people
Those who give energy
Those white energy
I know what Pardew is ,and I know what he s doing to me a usually positive and cup half full boy
Just think what the players must feel like having to see him ever day
29 yorkymag // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Thought for the day
In life there are only two kinds of people
Those who give energy
Those who take energy
I know what Pardew is ,and I know what he s doing to me a usually positive and cup half full boy
Just think what the players must feel like having to see him ever day
30 TorqToon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:24 AM
HDavid – whilst we aren’t the best team in the world, we frustrate, we disappoint and we let down, we fail to perform and we don’t spend the millions –
I will forever and soley be a Newcastle Utd fan. Because when we are good – we are very very good! We can impress, we can turn heads, we an score world class goals and we can beat the best teams around and we have, by a mile, the GREATEST support and the greatest city in the world !!! HWTL
31 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Rotonda…Laudrup values Michu at £30M (and no one wants Xisco…I mean no one)
32 Indian Magpie // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Blessing in disguise Shola Out, Poor player, Imagine as a young player looking up to him for inspiration.
33 TorqToon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM
HDavid – I assume you are taking about other sports, NFL, Basketball, speedway etc. and NOT another football club. So that’s good with me, mate!
34 Williamsonsuks // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM
“I think the board understand that and I think we need to do something about it.” Kinda says it all. He really should be saying, “The board can see wee are shit, have half a squad, and we will be bringing in reinforcements asap. Arsley please sell and f@@k off, and take your loofah and bidet with you.
35 davybtoon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM
Sunderland agree fee with burrsapor for Alfred n’diaye
36 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:28 AM
Torq…when are you going back to France?
37 TorqToon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:31 AM
I’m over hear now Jesp. Always working it feels!
No rest for the wicked !
38 santoon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM
why is there no development on remy, they knew ba was leaving 1 month ago, remy should be signed by the time ba left
39 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM
Are you going to any matches?
40 Rotonda heights // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:35 AM
ian
sadly it may have escaped you that usually we are always seem to be talking after yet another defeat.
12 out of 14 or 13 out o 15 inc cups
Yes pardew is really going to come out and say the spirit is bad, i’ve lost the dressing room and the captain and my top scorer both say my style sucks and that I play my favourites like Jonas regardless of form.
But like a couple of school girls egging each other on, you and Tequila think it’s sport to try and ridicule catchy and others with a different point of view and who don’t think pardew deserves to live off one good season.
41 davybtoon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM
The worst thing is we’re in serious trouble the numbers are down in the squad n they arnt doin deals to help out we should hav a striker n cb in this week no excuses
42 Indian Magpie // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM
Rotonda Don’t Forget Europa Bordeaux Away
43 Rotonda heights // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM
jesper
i was joking!!
44 TorqToon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM
Yes sir. I’m not working Friday but have the change to go and watch PSG vs AC Ajaccio and at the weekend I’m working with L’Orient who have Montpelier at their place and Sunday I’m back with Sochaux who are playing Marseilles. I’m hoping to NOT see Mr Loic Remy again as I would prefer him to be back home and an official NUFC player.
45 davybtoon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Rotonda – no matter likes pardew n who does the fact is he has 2/3 games save his job, n the more the run goes on n the poor excuses keep coming the more the fans will turn
46 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM
Rotonda…thank god
lol
Torq…Keep me posted will you mate? And tell me how Lamine Koné is progressing!
47 ronjohno // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:42 AM
Had more than a bellyfull of this blokes garbage day after day,week after week.
Now to top it all I have just read Williamsons comments in the Journal.
Why oh why do journalists even entertain this crap player. Would have more respect if he said MY FAULT ONCE AGAIN for not doing more to prevent goals.
48 davybtoon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:42 AM
And if owl heed n co return from France having not agreed a deal for a single player the should all resign
49 Jail for Ashley // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:43 AM
Hope Im wrong but the reason no more developments regarding transfers could be the fact that nobody else has been sold,the Demba Ba ,profit has paid for Debuchy maybe they’re trying to off load Tiote for 12M so that the 8M profit can be used on a CB and a cheap striker .
50 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Jail for Ashley
wouldn’t put it past these criminals
51 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Rotonda
If one good season from pardew does not secure his position then surely half a bad season shouldn’t determine his fate either.
I know people point to his style over the course of last season, saying it should be better and that players weren’t playing in their best position or system.
I would like to give pardew til the end of the season and see how things god (if we get a CB who can pass this window there will be no more excuses for hoofball) even though I think there isn’t an excuse currently.
52 catchy in norway // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:48 AM
Rotonda
I think with those that u mentioned , it’s see no evil hear no evil so it’s all good in the world,
Trouble is even some of the papers are starting to ask what if there is a problem
Anyone watching that match could see there was no fight in the team, no closing down no trying to force the game to them, now that’s the least they should do, if that team had of been beaten by the better team on ability , then fair enough, but they showed more heart and fight for there manager,
We showed it for 10 mins when we went down to ten men , to little to late
And you what rotonda, he has lost the dressing room , it won’t be long now
Taxi for pardew
53 Tommyy // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Davybtoon – You seem far less positive today? I’m starting to lose patience aswell, so is everyone I think. If we sign noone this week and lose to Norwich, it’s simply disgraceful and action has to be taken one way or another.
54 Expat MAG // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Probable team for Norwich is:
Krul
Debuchy Colo Staylor Santon
Obertan Anita Cabaye Bigi Marveux
Cisse
It will be a bonus if we have a few new players for the Norwich game but I’m not holding my breath. However, a CB and replacement for Ba is mandatory during this transfer window.
55 fergies left foot // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM
Looks like Taison is set to join chelski. fantastic news if true.
50% of metalists attack right there!
56 Tommyy // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM
I also get frustrated when people say ‘last season was no fluke’ etc. Of course last season was a fluke until it is repeated!
57 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM
TS…as long as we don’t get relegated I don’t think AP will get the sack (not that I think he should be too safe and all that; that just leads to complacency if it hasn’t already)
…but we need stability and we need to give him time to leave his mark (his no Laudrup, but at least he’s no Souness either
)
58 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM
*his = he’s
59 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:52 AM
At the very least we’ve needed a better RB since promotion, a CB since Sol Campbell left and a CF since the time we decided to let Lovenkrands and Best go.
Yet he thinks we should have brought 1 more in?
60 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Catchy
I agree about the lack of fight and not closing down.
Although I’m not sure if that is the fault of the players. The last two years pardew seems to have our players not press high up the pitch and only really start to close down when the opposition get into our half or third.
So maybe the lack of closing down was tactical. But saying that why was bigi running around pressing their back four.
Surely players who are on the fringes would be pressing much harder if they were meant to as they would want to make an impression. I genuinely think they were playing to our usual game plan of standing off…which I really dislike.
61 Tommyy // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:54 AM
I think if Pardew does go, that’s enough of overhyped, overrated British managers. We’ve had so many in the last 10 years who just simply aren’t very good. We need a free flowing attacking manager who knows the foreign technical side.
62 TorqToon // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Jesper – I will do, sir. I am seeing the first team whilst I’m there, and whilst I can’t say much as I’m there for ‘medical purposes only’ I may flash my NUFC keyring and playing my season review DVD in the background! Haha
63 Jail for Ashley // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Tsunki ,
Posted a good article o ce explaining why just because he doesn’t want Pards sacked it doesn’t mean he is pro Pardew ,I am in the same boat,of course I would like a better manager but can people not realise that Mike Ashley gave the guy snap eight year contract he is not getting fired,probably until its too late,he certainly isn’t absolved from any blame this season,far from it but it would have been so much easier to judge him if the four players he wanted inthe summer.
64 headtheball // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Ian Toon@20
Maybe you could try whistling a tune from The King and I namely I whistle a happy tune instead of berating other bloggers?
65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM
TS…your last remark is spot on – and really a problem when you play 4-3-3 with Shola all alone on top!
…I really thought the game plan against Brighton was a shambles
66 Scouse_geordie // Jan 7, 2013 at 9:58 AM
I’m getting increasingly Fed up of some comments on here, especially the pardew the puppet stuff.
you do realise that as a manager he is doing almost everything he possibly can, short of verbally abusing ashley in public, to get players in.
Some of you say he has no spine and seem to expect him to go into Ashleys office and give him a bollocking…wtf! he is his employer, how many of you would do that in your own job!
This isn’t football manager, pards doesn’t get involved in all transfers, he gives names of who he wants and waits to see who we get in.
And as for saying we should have played ba on the wing, and if he was not happy, screw it…the lad scored 13 from central this season! Clearly not a mistake.
67 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Jesper
I agree that he needs time. I think on our kind of budget and how few players come through the door we need to give a manager 3-5 years to really establish his own team.
I like the players we are getting, all technically good and should allow us to play a modern, successful brand of football.
The problem is we have these players yet seem to play a style that doesn’t suit them. If we were getting beat playing a certain style which suited the players I could understand it.
The problem is the style we use is terrible to watch and not even effective, it doesn’t maximise our potential. I’m not sure why we play it, I really dont think pardew is so stupid he can’t see it, even is non-footballing experts can see it doesn’t work so surely pardew must see whats going on even if he cant fix it.
It is turning around a bit lately and hopefully it will be fine once we get everyone back.
68 JARRAMAG // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM
davybtoon
You were one of the posters who agreed with Pardue when he said the squad was good enough at the end of August and you believed the younger players would come through this year
Its strange that all of a sudden you change your tune
Any sane Mag could see that a couple of injuries to our best players and we would struggle but you Ashley and Pardue lovers couldnt see it and just look at what has happened to our great policy of having just 11 purples in the squad has done.A blind man could see that willo and simo are crap and should have been replaced last year.
If we go down which is a very big possibility with Pardue in charge Ashley will lose £60 mill in tv revenue,so will he buy his way out ?
69 Tsunki // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Well you see the thing is ….. Nope, never mind.
70 Indian Magpie // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM
If i could beat Mike Ashley and LLambias with a shillelagh
71 Jail for Ashley // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Scouse G
We all understand that he can’t publicly slate his employer but I think what is annoying a lot on here and the SJP crowd is the fact that he is starting to lie for them at the cost of his own integrity.
72 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:03 AM
@ 27:
Rotonda, I have an idea that everyone on here knows that Williamson is just Shite !
He is,nt good enough to play for the reserves let alone the first Team!
We have more or less lost every game in which he has stood in the Back Four! I actually want someone to come and take him off us!
Ship him Out and get Mirin In!
73 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Tommyy
You have hit the nail on the head.
The reason we have gone through so many poor managers is down to the fact they have all been underwhelming British managers taught at the school of lower level English football.
Keegan had a european flare, Gullit tried to change the footballing ethos but failed and Bobby Robson brought us a continental style learnt from years abroad.
Since then we’ve had Souness, Roeder, fat sam, Keegan again (who IMO lost ability after England and man city), Kinnear, Hughton and Pardew.
Hardly a list of winners.
We need a continental coach, or at the very least, someone trained in European style football.
That’s why the national team turned to foreign managers. Ferguson is the only British manager to successfully adapt to the modern game over the past 20 years.
Moyes is adapting to it pretty well and to can see glimmers of that continental style in Liverpool under Rodgers.
Pardew just doesn’t get it. He has neither the ability, experience or quality to bring that brand of football.
74 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM
scouse
I am partly in agreement with you.
Ba justified his central role with the amount of goals scored.
But last season the team got results playing Ba on the left with cisse in the middle. I’d rather have the team win than Ba score goals.
I think the problem came not from Ba being central but from insisting cisse was also on the pitch and playing him wide right.
It should have been one or the other up top and then had some genuine wingers or wide forwards like ben arfa, obertan, marvoux (not ideal but can play there).
75 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM
TS…sometimes you just get so caught up in your own thing what you cannot see the forest for the trees
…hence the idiom that shall not be named lol
I still think that’s what we are experiencing with Pardew – clearly he’s no idiot (just stubborn as hell).
76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Rotonda…To be fair, us pro pardew have been ridiculed as well. When the catchy types will stop talking like things are fact and that people who don’t see it are stupid or just blind followers maybe there can be some middle ground?
There are lots of differing views on here, yet catchy makes himself public enemy number 1. Why is that, his views or the way he sets them out?
77 Sazzer // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM
That has been a problem position for us…
I think the board…
Working around the clock thinking about transfers.
78 Williamsonsuks // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Since the Keegan sacking/walking thing the majority of fans have rebelled against that pair of balls. We had banners up “Cockney mafia out” insulted his daughter, and whatever else. He must just love stirring the sh@t, trying to get revenge by destroying us from the inside.The Keegan thing, the way Shearer was treated, trying to change the stadiums name etc. In my eyes, any thing that was done by the fans had just cause. I know Barton is a cock, but everything he said seemed honest. I’d heard of the no bonus contract, Nolan and Smith were the dominant type and encouraged them all to refuse to sign it. We all know lamearse talks total balls. IE “Hughton is our manager and will remain here for a long time” 3 weeks i think it was they sacked him after that comment. Arsley stays out of the limelight because he knows he’s a crook, and thinks why have a dog and bark myself.
79 curmon // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Read the article in the Daily Mail this morning and Pardews comments on the performance of the lads on Saturday. HE HAS COMPLETELY LOST THE PLOT. The man is either deluded or insane. Get him out before he completely screws us up.
80 gaz 44 // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM
scouse geordie best comment i seen for a while.. pardew tried to get Debuchy in the summer, also tried getting a cb in.. the powers that be are the ones that stopped it happening so to say he’s a poor manager for not getting players in this position.. also willo isn’t first team material but Taylor is… if he is fit, he’s as good as anyone in the premier league just can’t get 15games together before being injured
81 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM
jesper
I said that yesterday…too close to the problem
Not sure what we will do though, I want Pards to succeed, for all the rubbish he spouts I seem to like him, think he is genuinely trying to do whats best for the club and is caught between the fans and the board.
I know injuries aren’t the only problem but for brighton we were without colo, taylor, simmo, tiote, ben arfa, jonas, cabaye, cisse (and ba left)
thats our who team from last year.
I know for most games we have only been missing one or two, maybe 3 players but it still causes problems.
The terrible run we are currently on coincides with cabayes absence, before that we weren’t at our best but were well ahead of 12 in 14 defeats.
82 tequilamag // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Rotanda @40 No it`s not sport for me. I have been a Newcastle supporter (Leazes End ) since 75. For the majority of the time we have been served up a pile of crap and still like a masochist I keep coming back for more.
The reason I will always challenge Catchy and by extension people like you is you have nothing positive to offer just relentless criticism which when challenged does not stand up to much.
Catchy offers up a diet of half truths and assumptions dressed up as facts. I called out Catchy months ago saying he wanted us to lose to support his criticism of Pardew which he denied . Then the truth came out and he admitted he did. What sort of supporter would be prepared to see us relegated to prove a debating point.
So no it`s not sport for me I am as serious as it comes when it comes to my team.
83 curmon // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Talking about tactics, when Brighton attacked they had acres of space in midfield, when we went forward we were covered immediately.
84 Krul to be Kind // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Ibiza
Bang on with the ‘middle ground’ statement but never gonna happen, as with all things Newcastle most fans take extremist views on either the pro/con Pardew scenario, but if anything it clearly puts fuel to the fire that we are the most passionate fans around but there is no reason to have a fans civil war over it, I just wish we could find that middle ground and all pull in the same direction when things aren’t going well, certain sections of our support can be far too disruptive and rock the boat from the inside!
85 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Whilst I agree Pardew is not to blame for not getting players in surely you can see that he has still refused to play the players in positions and used tactics for the good of the team.
Injuries have recently forced his hand but it has been the case since day 1 that the good of the few outweigh the need of the many in Pardews eyes.
We should’ve stuck Ba out left (not mike Ashleys fault), dropped guti (not Llambias fault), never put Cisse out right (not carrs fault), and never played 4-4-2 long ball (not the fault of lacking investment).
86 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM
gaz
Agree that it’s in no way pardew’s fault we didnt sign players. The board screwed him over, he said he wanted a CF, CF and RB (douglas, debuchy and de jong all had negotiations fail)
If he said we have failed in transfer window and we are havent got enough that could easily get the players down and lose motivation (although im sure the board not signing people did that anyway)
It’s difficult to know what exactly should be said
87 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Well they’ll have to get their arses into gear and sign some players pronto – no F***in about haggling over fees etc.,
GET THEM SIGNED UP
88 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Krul….Middle ground is a fantasy, especially where fans opinions are concerned. The bit that is avoidable is the “poor me” syndrome. Generally most posters give as good as they get so why complain?
Catchy is obviously happy to put himself centre stage and make big statements and accusations about the board and fans, so surely he can take the rest that comes with it.
89 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Beattie
Do you think Ba would still be here if played left?
I do. I don’t think any club would pay 10mil and 80/90k a week for a player who isn’t scoring as much.
I think he would have been stuck here and played a good role in helping is play well. All hypothetical just my view of it.
I think pardew layer him central in too good a faith. If he got goals he was always going to take his big money move to Chelsea. We should have gotten him to sign a new contract first on our terms before letting him play central.
90 JAMSHA // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:21 AM
BRING BACK KK….
91 Ian Toon // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Rotonda@40 – I am chuffed that you link me with Tequila. What does it say about your contribution to the Toon when your linked with Catchy!!!
92 Beattie25 // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM
I don’t speak for catch but my view is based on the future of NUFC.
I would much rather have a manager in that will look to change the ethos behind our play and tactics so that in 5 years we are a terrific footballing side. Pardew for me will not do that.
I would take bottom half finishes, big name players leaving and even small investment from the board if it looked like one day we could play decent football.
Can anyone say they can see that with Alan and if so why?
I am not wholey blaming Pards for this season, he has limited ability, no backing financially and has a poor youth team. But to deny the quality of the first team we have is blind sightedness from most on this blog. Up until Stoke away we pretty much has a first team every game so injuries are only an excuse from then.
Ive always said the trio of Ash, Llambias, and Pards needs to go but I don’t think Pards can be/should be sacked now because we will get some two bit cockney prat to take over.
IF we manage to avoid relegation Pardew should be sacked. Not based in last season or this, but looking ahead to the next 7 years and seeing we will never play like a top 4 team for the next decade.
93 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:28 AM
does anybody feel that while our defence has been poor the midfield should shoulder a fair bit of blame. tiote losing the ball and giving away free kicks in dangerous positions, a player not picked up early enough causing us to be outnumbered in defence, a winner not tracking back, a stray pass not chased down, a tackle not made. this all puts pressure on our defence.
we managed last year with willo and simmo because these duties were being performed. add to that cabaye being injured so we’ve lost our best passer of the ball. you can see the problem is not just the defence.
sometimes i wonder if this is why we go long ball this season. pardews is worried we will like the ball in midfield anyway which is worse than losing it in their third from a long ball.
just some thoughts.
94 Ian Toon // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Rotonda- Do you become redundant when were not. relegated?
Or do you follow your mentors lead and start posting as ” dead man walking”. Just get behind the team and be a fan”.
I am not going to waste my time by responding to your irrelevant posts. We need points. We can all talk about Pardew’s formations etc after we’re secure in the PL. Prioritise your thinking.
95 Ian Toon // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM
PPB- I agree. However were talking about a midfield minus Cabaye and HBA.
96 tequilamag // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Beattie, I would agree that the “purples” when fit are a top 6 standard team. I would argue we have had injury problems all season but for the first 10 games it was manageable, up until that point the performances were poor but results were not too bad, too many drwas but we were always in top 10 in the league. It`s the last 10 games when injuries have really badly hurt us and this is when we started our horrendous run of losses, all that tells me is the back up players are not good enough not that Pardew is a bad manager.
97 Ian Toon // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:36 AM
PPB- your also talking of a defence recently lacking the underrated Jonas support.
98 catchy in norway // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Transfer
I think your wrong on the closing down part, if you watch games from last year,
Our game was closing down quick, we had 3 players tiote cabaye jonas in the top 10 for the amout of Km’s they ran during the game, it was one of the things I liked about our team
I think you will also find as the season went on and cisse came in things changed and he went 433 ba tracked back on the left but added little going forward
Jonas dropped into DMC and did not run as much cabaye HBA cisse played as a great attacking 3
This season has been a mare from the first game, to many players in wrong possisions ,
I have no sympathy for Pardew right now on the injury front , he new in the summer we needed a CB, it was our no 1 priority, he did not come, they said they had 8 players lined up for each position , if one fails we go for the next,
I said yesterday his treatment of the kids is shocking, they have been blamed for losing games to many times, and the senior players around them like shola get pats on the back, his man management skills are shocking,
If you were one of those kids , would you run through a brick wall for someone that keeps telling you your not good enough? I wouldn’t
There is a saying , never step on ppl on the way up that you might need on the way down, Pardew didn’t just step on them he pissed all over them and hung them out to dry,
99 Williamsonsuks // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:37 AM
Pardews perfect. Agree the midfield have made loose passes, not closed down quick enough, gave away silly free kicks. If I was in midfield and knew i had a shambles of a CB and RB, i’d have extra pressure on my shoulders. Williamson panics and passes it to the nearest guy, who usually is surrounded by 2 or 3 players, or hoofs it up the park into no mans land. Simpson another panicker, who always passes back the way as soon as he was confronted by an opposing winger.
100 BandB // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:37 AM
Everyone is entitled to their view, Ian Toon. But, by any measure, the season so far looks rather more like the one I feared back in August, and rather less like the one you so confidently predicted. That alone might want to make you less dismissive of others, and less abrasively confident. You have been right about virtually nothing so far, as far as I can see.
101 Transfer Sage // Jan 7, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Catchy
I would say we did stand off a lot last year, not as much as now but we definitely didnt press. I think it stopped when cisse came in for best or shola. We stopped closing down then.
I would though ask you how is it Pardews fault we didnt sign players? He said we needed more and Ashley didnt spend. In what way is that Pardews fault? He can’t sign the cheques himself
102 lesh // Jan 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM
We should be familiar with the excuses and platitudes as we saw the same performance in the transfer window of 2012.
So much for having our targets teed up!
Ok, we got Debuchy at the end of week one of the current window and we’re now in week two and we’re ‘working around the clock to get players in’. Now when did we hear that last?
Other clubs seem able to act swiftly and get players in early – just what have these useless clowns been doing for the last five months – playing fanatasy football or something?
Which owner be content to sit and watch his investment go doen the pan?
One must assume that Ashley doesn’t run his Sports Direct empire like he allows this club to be run otherwise he’d lose fortunes!
As far as Newcastle United’s concerned, this owner and his MD are pathetic, demonstrating absolute incompetence and heads should roll – as they would in a properly run business.
103 Ian Toon // Jan 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM
BandB- Happy New Year
I think your confusing me with someone else. The only thing I have got wrong as you put it, is that I anticipated some of our youngsters making more of an impact. I said in September that Pardew had been let down by Ashley but we had to get on with it. I remain of the view that once our best players return plus a few astute additions we”ll be a match for anyone.
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