Both Cabaye And Steven Taylor Doubtful For Norwich Game

10:33 am, Tuesday, January 8th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 257 Comments

Yohan Cabaye is struggling to be fit for the game at Carrow Road on Saturday, and after he’s been out a couple of months we’d be surprised if he plays on Saturday, even if the manager includes him in the squad that travels to Norwich City.

Yohan Cabaye — still doubtful for Norwich

And if doesn’t look like Steven Taylor has much chance of making the game against the Canaries either, but Fabricio Coloccini, Papiss Cisse and Jonas Gutierrez will all return to the starting line-up, after the disaster at Brighton last Saturday.

Alan Pardew was asked in the local press if it was too early for Cabaye and Steven Taylor to make it for Saturday:

“I think it might be, but we will push them as hard as we can.” “We cannot bring them back, play them for one game and then they are out for five.” “It is better if they come back and stay fit.”

“We are on a knife-edge now with form and everything else.” “Debuchy comes into the team and we will look like we have a much stronger team than at the weekend.” “Shola is ineligible because of his red card too.”

“Perchie is doubtful with his knee, but hopefully, Jonas will be back and Colo and Papiss.” “They should train on Thursday with a bit of luck.”

Newcastle have 17 league games to go and we are on 20 points, so we need at least another 20 points to be safe, and of course wins are the name of the game in the coming months.

And we need to break our terrible run some time soon, and Norwich would be as good a time as any.

This could be the starting eleven on Saturday:

Krul
Debuchy Coloccini Williamson Santon
Bigirimana Anita Gutierrez
Obertan Cisse Marveaux

So we would still be missing Yohan Cabaye, Steven Taylor and Ben Arfa – and James Perch – but it would seem the first two could make the game at home to Reading a week on Saturday, and if we cannot win that game we’ll be in big trouble.

Comments welcome.

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Tags: Injuries · Newcastle News · Steven Taylor · Yohan Cabaye

257 responses so far ↓

1 canada_nufc // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM

All this talk about a Striker…IMO we need a CB far more than a Striker…actually we probably need 2. Steven Taylor is injury prone – and the next CB could get injured (or Collocini) during the course of the season..leaving us once again with Williamson – who’s at fault for many of the goals we concede. This would be a dagger into relegation, IMO (unless our attack can pull itself together).

As a reliable CB/LB, I’m still big on this guy (available on a free), Mason Trafford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_REMUOZ5fPw

I also found his recent highlights (he can play both as a left-back and CB): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJi-AjV5XoA

What separates him for me is having outstanding distribution and ball skills – as well as obvious defensive ability. I think in the modern game distribution is so key – guys like Collocini/Pique do this well – Williamson does this badly. This guy also has great anticipation – he used to be a forward/midfielder (I used to play with him many years ago)

Trafford’s being courted by a number of prominent clubs so I doubt he’ll be around for long. I believe his team made the Europa league this yr – but from what I’ve been told he wants to move on to clubs outside Scandinavia
2 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:36 AM

If they are not 110% ready then better rest them (we are gonna need them this season)
3 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Guthierez in midfield could be good for us. I guess he has to play anyway as there are not many other options atm. If he runs around all game and presses hard, he could be good, also he will provide defensive cover and hopefully be there to cover Santon when Santon is up the pitch and can’t get back
4 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM

any news of ben arfa?
5 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Canada… Big step up though from the finnish league to PL especially with the mire we’re in atm.

I agree about distribution although i think santon and debuch are more than adequate at moving the ball forward. What we really need is a powerful strong in the air CB similar to distin/hangelang , it says a lot when your best arial defender is shola ameobi

We also need a pacy defender as well, in the mould of distin again . Colos starting to slow down we need someone to keep pace with quicker attackers. Or someone hows strong enough to force them off the ball.
6 jettson1971 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:42 AM

i think we hav seen our transfer business concluded, all the talk re player profiles, dossiers, checks etc is just to sound good, and to look proactive! IF and big IF we have all this in place then WHY have we not got someone over the line, knowing for a FACT that BA was going to be leaving???
7 Beattie25 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Fcuking joke of a club.

We are rushing players back to try and cover the gaping holes left due to lack of investment.

We are told they might be ready, they might not. Well even if they’re not webshoukd have adequate cover and if they are injured why aren’t we actively persuing cover.

Your not telling me we couldn’t have bids for Sissoko, Douglas and sulamenjani accepted.

All out of contract, all quality and all what were looking for. If they turn us down fair enough! It feels like were not even trying even though our biggest 3 games in the history of our club are coming up.
8 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Krul
Debuchy Willo collo santon
Bigi/Jonas Anita
Obertan marveaux sammy
Cisse

Or something like that.

I was struggling to think of available players their like, hence the inclusion of sammy.
I’m convinced I’ve forgotten someone
Still not had coffee…
9 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Infact, I would play Jonas in place of sammy in that line up.
10 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Wizard…go get some coffee it is almost noon here in the land of the future lol
11 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Repost – sorry!

Rainrix – I’ve heard the talk about his heart defect and its not in the same ball park as say Muamba / Morosini et al.

It’s a condition that can be lived with and not even known about. The vigorous and in depth testing that professional club medical teams highlight this but does not affect playing at the top level and has been proven 99.9% of the time to have no adverse affects on performance or health.

Some might not be aware the Mo Diame and Nwankwo Kanu had this same condition. Yet because it never affected them – it wasn’t given air time.

In my professional opinion – it isn’t truly defining in whether a transfer should take place or not. I believe it has little to no effect on what can be achieved by Loic Remy – but of course is something the medical teams key in record.
12 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM

jettson

It’s not always that simple.

Would it be ideal if we had deals tied up for jan 1st…yes of course but not always possible.

-Sometimes players aren’t available as clubs just dont want to sell
-Sometimes clubs want to wait and see if they have a replacement
-Sometimes players want to wait to keep their options open ,see if a better offer comes in

There are all sorts of factors that can hold up deals and make things take a while.

With our spending, try to get the best deal possible, we have to hang around a while and see if a price drops. Chelsea can tie deals up quickly as they wont be as tight haggling over 1/2/3 million etc.
13 ash1001 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM

No longer gonna waste my time writing anything of length on the blog comments, cos 5 minutes later there is another posting loosley on the same subject. ED how about cutting down on the blogs unless there is a totally different subject.

For this one if Pardew dedicated as much time to the Team and player asseessment as he does to spouting a load of Tosh, we would possibly have a good team
14 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM

I might be a bit biased as St Ettiene are my french team, i work in France a fair bit and go to a game each time, personally i much prefer aubameyang! If 8m is the price for Remy though pierre-emmerick would not be a cheaper choice, hed be 12-15m! Les Verts also have a beast of a young centre back, kurt Zouma! The new desailly! Just turned 18 but playing week in week out and out performing other defenders in the league!
15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM

…and why aren’t they giving you any coffee ( hardly seems fair ) lol
16 Beattie25 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM

I’d Sammy Ameobi gets anywhere near the starting 11 after that performance on saturday I’ll be questioning life itself.

I give 100% everyday and even the it’s sometimes not enough. That little Cnut looked like he couldn’t give a shit. Terrible attitude and deserving of punishment.
17 geoff777 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Hopefully Jonas will be a yard quicker with a layoff to recharge his batteries.

He’s been a hopeless all season so far.

Why do we never fine tune our squad?
Instead we just keep Jonas, Willo, Simpson et al.

Sell Jonas at the start of the window see what we get and buy a younger hungrier replacement.

Same with Willo, sell for 1-2M and buy a 22-23yo replacement.
18 santoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM

he shouldnt risk either of them even though they really needed incase they get injured again and miss the rest of the season
19 jettson1971 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Transfer Sage

Accepted, however, what is stopping us making it clear we are going after these players, and actually doing something instead of keeping reports, which will end up going no where as other clubs will step in??

I can’t fathom out why we can’t be tieing up deals for Douglas, Pieters, Sissoko, etc, they indicate they are interested, they coming near end of contract, £10-12m investment now i covered by a 70% increase in tv revenue, I know the fat controller likes to gamble, but the stakes are far too high now!!

As for Pards, well i think this season has shown he is not upto the job, great last season, but sorry, he has been shown wanting this time round, no tactics, no plan b, very poor and no other manger anywhere would still be in post after this record of defeats.
20 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:55 AM

One player that would be available for cheap is Emmanuel Riviere! Young, was my favourite player when he was at st ettiene, pacey striker who can also play on the wings! Doesnt suit how toulouse play and they will sell as they have cash problems and want to keep ben yedder
21 jettson1971 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Beattie25

Lol – but totally agree, Sammy is not even Div 1 standard, i posted yesterday saying that i think he believes he has made it! well thats so far wrong its unbelievable, he is no more a footballer than his brother! there was not an ounce of fight or commitment in his performance, it was awful, one of the worst iv ever seen from a young pro who should be trying 125% to make an impression, young, cocky and arrogant! he will get no where in his career in my opinion!
22 ash1001 // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Transfer Sage #11

Re “try to get the best deal possible, we have to hang around a while and see if a price drops”

Thought we had a billionaire owner, up to the present time we have spent a net figure of £1.1 million this season, last season it was £11.6 million and the two years before that it was a profit of + £24.75 million and +£24.0 million

So we are well in credit on transfers. whos to blame Ashley, Llambias and Pardew, and us as FANS for putting up with it.
23 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Any one noticed santons performances since jonas was dropped?? Or jose enriques since he left?? Think jonas does more for the team than people realise, hoping he looks a new player after being out for a bit
24 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Jettson

I agree the progress should be much quicker.

But just because there is no reported bids and clubs aren’t confirming anything doesn’t mean we haven’t been in discussions. No formal bids may have been made but clubs could be talking.

We saw the plan backfired in the summer so I get why everyone is sceptical, I am myself.

I’m still confident we will bring in 2 more players this window.
25 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Doubt they have heard of old Trafford. Should send them a mail and he might get a trial. To show if he got the speed and strength.
26 Krul to be Kind // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Repost from previous thread

Bambams

Both re exceptionally quick PEA is the faster of the 2, Both very tricky players and due to versatility both not seen as out and out strikers

For my money Remy is the better player and safer target, PEA has been at a few clubs where he hasn’t made an impact and really only peaked at St Etienne, never set the world alight at either AC or Lille (loan), Remy has been great at Lens and Marseille and he came through Lyon where he didn’t really get a chance

Hope this sheds a touch of light
27 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Ash

I posted the transfer figures last night. We have made 34mil over the last 5 seasons in transfer profit.

We have a billionaire owner but that doesn’t mean he has a load of free money to chuck around, most of his money is tied up in his assets, sports direct and NUFC.

He isn’t like abramovich where he has a bank account with 10 billion to spend as he wants.

I’m not saying he has got it right, we should spend more.

I want to see a couple signings this window, a CF/winger and a CB.

The summer coming will be his biggest test…we are currently breaking even so when TV money goes up by £20mil that is free so to speak, not needed for other things….so surely we can spend a good chunk of that on top of what we already had assigned for transfers.
28 WorJordi // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM

@ Beattie 25
Im with you on this lad regarding Sammy.
His attitude is liek ” well Im here Ive made it so like it or lump it.
I basically agree with most of what you write and I dont know how you stay calm enough throughout to write and express yourself.
I am still seething about Saturday in fact about he whole season.
For what its worth I reckon Ashley being a gambler has probably covered his losses already and thinks it fun to watch us all go through this sh-te.
Gotta go or I’ll be writing all day about the club I love and support and the way we are being slowly strangled ….its outrageous.
Keep the faith
HWTL
29 Rotonda heights // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM

sage

P.E.A is aubameyang at st etienne
30 nimo // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM

cheers gaz , read blog everyday but too many itk now, even though i don’t claim to be itk just pass on What i hear from my mate who work in France for Leeds united sxouting system…
from What i heard newcastle spoke to remys guys in December, the noises were he had heard spurs and arsenal were interested but wanted to hold out to see if bids came in for bale and walcott so remy has said he wants to weigh up his options at later date.. since then think he’s more keen on coming to toon but now were not sure on him as his heart may notb in it.. for this reason there favouring pea at the moment and it would free up more for a cb which we are looking at sakho and mbwia from France as first choice.. (may be others from other leagues only know French), sissokho is a no go unless we lose a midfielder, ..
all the talk bout Ben arfa and pardrw falling out is rubbish, the team fully behind him and made board aware of this..
and i know we all want instant success but with Debuchy the sake of 6month saved us close to €3mill , i don’t like it but it is how the clubs being run, we also bid €13mill for remy in the summer which was rejected straight up, looks like could save a fortune there and don’t be suprised to hear us linked with loris nery in the coming days..
31 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Nimo

Good update.

Any info on how close we are to getting one of those CB’s in?
32 DarloGeordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:10 AM

You would think we’re playing full contact rugby union our team are a bunch of tinkerbells it’s been like this for a couple of seasons now, our physio’s are the hardest working staff at the club because the players aren’t….

2 months off work full pay yes please. Good news on Colo and Cisse… Jonas’ workrate goes un noticed, these next few matches are so so so important if we lose the next two then I’m sorry pardew needs to go.
33 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I agree – Jonas’ work rate goes very much unnoticed. People need to forget about the ‘old’ Jonas and accept the more defensive player he has become.
34 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Bits of new info. It said something of Remy weighing up his alternatives in December articles. But Nery was new. He have been mentioned by bloggers. And bids on 13 m I haven’t heard before.
35 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:16 AM

I don’t know if its already been mentioned but in my professional opinion, remy’s heart condition isn’t a major concern in the same way Muamba / Morosini’s was. Relatively unnoticed unless being tested at the highest level, and no adverse affects on performance or health. Nwankwo Kanu coped fine and nobody has mentioned the Mo Diame shouldn’t be signed because of HIS heart defect! Nothing of major concern IMO but something medical teams keep an eye on and on record as course.
36 theroosta // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Hopefully cisse will get some quality service if he is playing through the middle, maybe debuchy can get that quality in there and santon who along with obertan can provide after having shockas last week, they owe us big style, they better stand up and be counted along with th rest of our players, its another long trip for our fans, pull your fingers out.
37 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:17 AM

People aren’t worried about Loic remy’s heart condition are they?
38 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:18 AM

And Nimo what about Mirin? Why would Sakho leave?
39 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM

In my professional opinion is its more for reference and the medical teams to keep in mind. Not something that would affect his performance or more importantly, his health. Competing at the top is more than possible.

Mo Diame? Kanu?
40 geoff777 // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Torq Toon

Jonas can’t cross, can’t shoot and isn’t a defender.
Now he’s lost a yard of pace he’s the new Alan Smith.
He has more cards this year, time to sell and replace him.

Why do we put up with all these “brown” players?
Sell them and buy younger players with potential to be “purples”.
41 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Torq… Me and tads were just discussing that, i found a few articles on it, apparently it wont stop him from playing football and its low risk, it just raised a red flag on his medical basically
42 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Geoff – I agree that an upgrade is due to adjust to our new (hopefully!!) style of play!
43 geoff777 // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Torq

People aren’t worried about Loic remy’s heart condition are they?

No just his goal scoring and injury record.
44 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Nimo , really? Loris nery? Saw him at st ettiene, doubt hed get past debuchy or santon to get into our side? Not watched him at valciennes tho, they have mirit too dont they, another player ive not seen! Gping out on a limb but i feel there is better value than remy in ligue 1
45 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Rainrix – Thats good mate. I just know what this blog can be like. One person flags it as a MAJOR ISSUE and all of a sudden we shouldn’t be signing the lad! Nothing to worry about.

Geoff – Honestly – if that’s all you are worried about with regards Remy, your concerns should he sign won’t last long. He is a cracking player, scores goals and his injury record is pretty good compared to many others! Don’t worry.
46 canada_nufc // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:24 AM

@Rainrix

I agree. Big step up, and you’d still need to bring in another experienced Centreback….he’s great cover though, and costs almost nothing. I’ve been following this guy for a long while though and he has what it takes.

You mentioned the importance of a pacy defender:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJi-AjV5XoA&feature=player_detailpage#t=71s
47 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM

geoff

last season remy played 40+ games getting 21 goals

the season before he got 17 goals in 40ish games also.

This season he has only got 2 in 8 but this is just one season.

He is a very good player from the bits i’ve seen, not watched a lot but catch the odd french game when I can…maybe only seen him 7/8 times over the past 2 years so can’t say for certain how good he is.
48 spennymoor-mag // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM

All this remy talk…..where’s the bid at?? Luuk de Jong farce wrote all over it
49 jettson1971 // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM

wat i kno is that we must have a striker in before sat, and a new centre half before the reading game, we are so weak its scary!!
50 canada_nufc // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM

oops that was meant to link to a specific time in the video:

go to 1:12 in to see immense pace!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJi-AjV5XoA&feature=player_detailpage#t=71s
51 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I trust that any player we bring that has been thoroughly scouted by Carr will have a great chance of being a hit.

We are tight with money now so cannot see the club spending close to 10mil on somebody they do not rate very very highly.
52 Krul to be Kind // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Has anyone else noticed that without Jonas, Santon is a shadow of the player he has been with Jonas, without cover Santon is overexposed, with Jonas he can bomb forward as good as the best fullbacks, agreed ano as isn’t the player he was but for me he is still integral to the setup, we haven’t got anyone in the side that works as hard!
53 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I gotta feel a bit for Kieron Dyer. All that potential but hampered by injuries. And now doesn’t have a club!
54 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Canada… Well i could only watch a minute of that (at work) but looks like he has a decent turn of pace, and if he wouldn’t cost much then i guess its fairly low risk, versatility would be handy too.

Of course we cant really tell which players pards should buy though so
55 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Jettson

I think we can cope without another striker for norwich. Cisse up top alone is a good enough option.

I hope campbell gets a go off the bench, but only if we have a comfortable lead or desperately need a goal….dont want to risk him if we only 1 up or level. He is a million miles ahead of ranger.

I’d love a CB in as priority….that is where needed to strengthen since last jan when we missed out on mariappa (a good thing really)
56 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Rainrix – I wish we could mate!!!
57 geoff777 // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I’m not sure if these stats are accurate … I’m assuming this site is fairly good at getting thing right.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/84886/lo%C3%AFc-remy?cc=5739

14 games 1 goal 0 assists 17 shots.

Was he playing in goal?
58 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Krul

The problem for santon is he is too reliant on jonas. He should have good cover from elsewhere.

Look at everton with pienaar and baines…..they overlap well and create a lot. What you dont always see is that not only do they cover each other but they get help at full back from the defensive midfielder phil neville or whoever else is on there.

We also seem to lose shape…..if we had only one full back attack at a time…if simmo is forward santon should sit and vice versa….then you have your two CBs, one fullback and a defensive midfielder who can slot in if needed to make a solid 4 at the back….failing that the 3 can squeeze narrow until the fullback returns to his position.

Our shape isn’t great a lot of the time as we seem to play a lot of players who like to be central.

eg. ben arfa, cisse, ba, jonas, tiote, cabaye, perch, all these like to either stay in the middle or drift inside which causes us problems out wide as we have no shape just open spaces.
59 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Torq…. Yeah but if you end up making a bad call then its gonna be fun getting hounded on the blog all day, followed by a swift lynching on the tyne bridge
60 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Yeah true mate! The blog loves a good witch hunt !

Pitch forks at the ready!!
61 Munster Mag // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Transfer Sage, comfortable lead v Norwich ? We’ll be lucky to get a point with non creative players like Guti and worse again , Obertan wasting our time. Worrying times.
62 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Geoff

That site is good. Shows he only started 2 league games and 12 as a sub so not sure how much playing time he has had.

He also has 2 goals and 1 assist in 6 Europa starts and 1 sub game.
63 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Munster

I know it’s unlikely. Was jut setting the scenarios in which is like him to get a run out.
64 Munster Mag // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM

TS, the problem for Santon is that he cannot defend! I have alwasy said our purchasing policy is based only on value, and he looked like a guy who could increase a lot in value – Maldini and all that. To compare him with Maldini is laughable. In fact he is almost a nothing players. Of course he has some pace and good tech nical skills, but he is a bad defensive player and doesnt create much either.
65 nimo // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM

jay be totally honest i don’t really follow French league at all, watch slightly more now living in Canada as its on tv more but generally only in a bar where im too interested in my ale lol.. generally live in my newcasyle bubble..
from my understanding this nery fellow is one for the future.. there was another but can’t remember his name bachemback or something aswel.. don’t know how sakho been doing but apparently he was ready to move to spurs in the summer if they didn’t get vertonghen
66 Krul to be Kind // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Sage

He is absolutely reliant on Jonas just like Baines with pienaar, you take one or the other away from Everton and they do not look like the same side, they also play a totally different system to us with their 4411, those 2 are integral to how they play, what worries me though is if we struggle to cover Santon when Simmo was playing then how will we fare with Debuchy who also loves to bomb forward, if both go up we would get screwed!

As you said we really lack discipline with shape this season, IMO this is the huge difference between the 2 most recent seasons
67 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Munster

I have high hopes for santon. He featured a lot under mourinho for inter which suggests he can follow plans and stick to tactics well. Mourinho doesn’t suffer fools and expects players to do their job.

Attacking wise he is very good. Look at full backs in the league….not many have more than 1 or 2 goals and assissts.

The main attacking job of a fullback is not to assist (might sound counter productive) but to overlap/underlap and create space for the winger who will have a much better delivery.

Obviously get the exception like baines, ivanovich (although he is mainly a CB) and jordi alba but most full backs dont get a lot of assists.
68 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM

What’s the scoop then people?
69 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Al quiet on the black and white front, Ibiza.

Just discussions into Remy, PEA and the hopes being pinned on a new CB to shore up our backline!
70 Krul to be Kind // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Sage

Your most recent post there re overlapping, that’s the problem with santon, he overlaps and cuts in, been saying that for some time now, his cutting in leaves us exposed, I feel much safer with him on the right tbh when he doesn’t cut in, he shouldn’t be cutting in due to its lack of counter productivity!
71 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM

krul

thats where tactical discipline and planning will hopefully come in and it’s up to the players to attack responsibly not go all out every time we have the ball.

Debuchy is an experienced international so hopefully he will already understand this.

Santon is still young and learning so this comes with age and experience…although I do think he is too naive.

Baines is another example of experience, when you have years of experience at a certain level you spot little things which might make you think…hang on, i’ll hang back a minute and see what happens,…or now is the time to make that run etc.
72 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:53 AM

krul

cutting in is a great option….but it should be secondary to getting to the by-line.
73 DarloGeordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:53 AM

2 months ago people didn’t know what a purple or a brown player was, it got mentioned and now it’s the new thing to say on this blog…

For me there are two types of players:

1) the type that wear the Newcastle shirt with pride and work their socks off for the club…. For example (on occasions) Ameobi

2) money grabbing Mongrol dog c@nts such as Ba who didn’t
Give a sh!t about the black and white stripes…

If Remy turned down QPR offer, which he will have been offered more cash than at St James’ then he’s the type of player I want, as he will be happy with the rest of the French contingent.

Personally I believe our transfer dealings this month are over and done with but I’ll say it again “I hope I’m proven wrong”

HWTL
74 Krul to be Kind // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Sage

Slow down m8, far too quick for me… Fancy playing striker!!! Haha
75 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Regarding the transfers

Why are we only linked with forwards?

As it stands right now we have 3 cisse shola Campbell , yes it would be nice to have another , but with the midfielders we have we can mix and match , we could even class HBA as a forward , it is an option

Our main focus should be at least 1 very good CB, we can not depend on saylor to stay fit, we can not depend on Williamson at all, ESP if Pardew wants to play a high line, perch is a total nightmare at CB( better as DMC )

Defence is our biggest problem we have no cover, or am I wrong with this to ?
76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Torq….I guess I’m missing something by PEA and we’re not discussing the price of peas?

As for Remy and a CB – I’m just waiting to see now. I have said I’m giving time to the club across the board.

Ashley & Llambias – Review 1st Feb
Players Commitment – Game by game
Pardew – Forever! I mean…ermm….well…Pardew out! Sillyness aside (for a brief second anyway), I’m not sure for me when his time is up, I think we were seeing some improvement (up until Brighton), so I will see how things develop over the next couple of weeks.
77 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:57 AM

@catchy and ranger
78 Munster Mag // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:57 AM

TS, you’ve been listening to Gary Neville too much! He has time to develop, but as it stands, I see Santon as a player with great energy, running power and good close control. However he doesnt do a lot in real terms creatively, and he hasnt looked like a good defender from day one. Largely this is because he lacks concentration, and doesnt get close enough to wingers. he looks neither a full back nor a winger / attacking midfielder.Against Norwich we badly need to see Marv and Cisse facilitated. This will be crucial.
79 nimo // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM

and if im totally honest even thou we are watching centre backs don’t really think we will be getting any through the door which is annoying as its been our man problem area forso long
80 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM

PEA = Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang

Saves the old typing fingers!
81 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM

darlo

Ba gave his all for us when on the pitch…don’t forget that.

It’s easy to be loyal when you are shola…nobody ever wants him, and if they do its certainly not on double/triple wages.

I dont blame Ba for going, we had a good 18months out of him, he got the move he wanted…the only shame is the release clause which meant we didn’t get as much as we would have liked.
82 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Catchy….Prepare yourself….I agree, CB should be priority. It’s not winding me up that we’re looking and being linked with ST, that is natural, but if they don’t get in a CB I wont be too happy about it.
83 TorqToon // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Nimo – See I believe we WILL bring a new CB in. I think we HAVE too !

Besides the anger and disappointment – if we DON’T sign a centre half this window I will be shocked and it will surely question the board and what they really want out of this club.
84 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Torq….I shall remember that one, get the feeling it will be used a lot this month and perhaps beyond….then again maybe just during transfer windows
85 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Some say 6 m and some say 12 m.
86 Wandering Geordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Liverpool and Newcastle United are embroiled in a £5million battle to sign defender Nicolas Isimat-Mirin from French league side Valenciennes.
87 Rake // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM

How many times have doubtful players popped up on match day in the team? wouldn’t suprise me to see both in the starting line up
88 DarloGeordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Sage

Valid points suppose who would want Shola lol

Kieran Dyer for rest of the season anyone? Can’t be worse than Kuqi
89 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:04 PM

munster

I agree defensively he gets exposed a lot, and gets away with a lot of criticism on here than simmo we be slated for.

I didn’t know neville made that point but if he did I agree. He obviously has talent or else mourinho wouldn’t have played him. I think he needs to be rained in a bit, not as cavalier as he has been so far this season.

If we had a proper left sided player to attack, hopefully remy in my eyes, then we might see him sit back. As it is jonas end up covering too much which does neither of them any real favours.

Santon does need to work on is delivery as it is below par. He could really benefit by spending 30 mins a day running down a wing to the byline and crossing with his left foot while moving. He will improve if he works at it.

The whole defence/defensive aspect of the team from keeper to forwards has been shambolic in parts this year and at best bud standard…so that wont help him but I agree he needs to improve as well.
90 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:04 PM

ibiza

you little tease
91 Wandering Geordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Jeremain Lens of Psv is also an alternative to Remy-Guardian
92 Spreadthetoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Ibiza
I hope AP managed to straighten you out…….have you got your balance back yet lad……AP’s a certain one to put you on an uneven keel…..(cough, cough)….I mean an EVEN keel! Oh dear me……..:)

So another day in the transfer market and its all gone to PEA!
93 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Catchy….Not at all. We do agree sometimes and those are the moments we should cherish

“ooooooo sometimes, catchy and I agree, yeah”
94 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Catchy

I’m with you and ibiza on this.

We can currently have 1 good striker which is ok as we play 1 up top hopefully…then we have options.

We currently have 1 good CB but need 2 each game so we need that filled first…we have saylor (not played over 14 games in a season since 2008) and willo (less said the better).
95 Williamsonsuks // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:07 PM

If Jonas is playing saturday Pards should swap him with Santon. We all know Santon leaves holes at left back and Jonas is crap going forward. Santon seems more of a winger to me, for sure.
96 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Spread…Not sorted yet, but I am assured that my problem has been the length of my nails. Going to get them cut later and I’ll be like a new man. Llambias also recommended I paint them purple….not sure what he’s talking about if I’m honest.
97 Spreadthetoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Ibiza
I hope AP managed to straighten you out…….have you got your balance back yet lad……AP’s a certain one to put you on an uneven keel…..(cough, cough)….I mean an EVEN keel! Oh dear me……..:)

So another day in the transfer market and its all gone to PEA! Wow we really are pissing the season and transfer market haway! Well enough shallow witt from me….any talk on the toon about some centre backs…..? Dare I ask or are we doomed to wing it on a prayer! Really hope we land Isimat-Mirin – of all the CBs we have been linked with, he’s got to be the best value for money and would slot in well next to Collo.
98 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:10 PM

williamson sucks

I dont think santon is a winger…he hasn’t got the quality in his delivery yet to be successful further forward.
99 Spreadthetoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM

btw looking at Ed’s forecast line up…..I still see no reason why we cannot nick something from Carrow Rd……lets not talk ourselves into a relegation battle….lets find our way out of it!
100 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Nimo
Bachemback = winger Boudebouz?
101 Tinman // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Since Cisse hasnt been training all week do you think Pardew will utilise him on the left wing ‘where he is used to playing’ and start Ranger as CF since thats the system they have been training with without Cisse?

Or was Pardews excuse for playing Cisse on the wing against Everton just another example of his bullshit?

Har Har Har.

Watch people brush this aside… Eeeee thats totally different man. Not really, if Cisse hasnt been training all week then Pardew shouldnt play him otherwise he is proven to be a hypocrite as he stated just last week we play a team based on what we train in during the week.
102 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Having 1 good striker is good enough for u lot? MA work to condemn us to contained expectations is well under way

We need at least another striker/attacking option, we need more in at the back and we need another forward thinking option for the midfield…in fact we could do with depth all over the shop
103 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Used old Pro evolution skills for that enigma.
104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Spread….This Norwich game for me, whilst not decisive in a turn around, it should give us an indication of where the manager and players are at.

I expect him to field the strongest available starting line up. They had raised their game for Arsenal and Man U, can they do that against Norwich? If they can we “should” get a better result to build from. I’m not expecting it to just click, but given how crappy everything has been I expect to see signs of improvement. To kick on again some confidence needs to be built, we have a few games in which to do this before things start getting tricky again. Here’s to hoping.
105 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Tinman

I think the team will have prepared all week in the shape for cisse to be the forward.

Therefore he will just slot in where the striker has been…the wide men will have been training out wide all week to combat the specific norwich problems.
106 Spreadthetoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM

What about Younes Belhander? Now that would be a quality signing…..linked with Fernabache and Spurs…..why not Newcastle! OMG he would be the signing of the transfer window….pure quality!
107 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM

The thing about santon is that he’s about the only player we have who can actually get us out of defence and further up the pitch bar krul hoofing it.

If we try to pass into the middle we usually get harried off the ball or more likely it goes back to colo/willo. We all know simmo cant dribble for jack and relies on ben arfa to get us up the right of the pitch.

We have to see if debuchy can do what santon can do and dribble out of defence and open space up for our midfielders. Its probably why we play long so much, we can barely get the ball into advanced areas without it.
108 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM

WWYCD

One good striker isn’t enough….but when playing 1 up top we need one on the pitch at a time.

We need two CB’s and current have 1 good one, 1 bad and one who is constantly crocked.

So for me CB is the main position to strengthen, but a striker is also important.
109 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Catchy In Norway
Jan 08 – 11:54 AM
Spot on
CB should 100% be a priority if not 2
But feel with the club not sorting the ba issue sooner they have backed themselves into a corner and put themselves under enormous pressure to perform this window in regards of players they need to bring in and a CF has become as bigger priority aswell as a CB, should colo or cisse pick up an injury were in the brown stuff!!
110 Williamsonsuks // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:18 PM

I honestly think he has. He can get passed players with ease. An out and out winger doesn’t fit in with our style, there’s no great headerers so pointless crossing high balls, other defences clear them most of the time. Santon drifts in and shoots or tries to slip a pass into the centre. He’s young and thin, most wingers can push him over with ease making him look worse than he is. Jonas is slow but tougher. If Jonas was told dont go to high up the pitch he’d do a good job in defence.
111 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Yo…Not that we don’t need a ST, but for me priority is CB. I’m not really expecting too much more than 1 or 2 in, so that would be CB and then ST. If we can get more on top of that then that’s great, but just trying to keep expectations realistic and that is the minimum I think the team needs now.
112 nimo // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:18 PM

wasn’t boubedouz I’ve heard of him
113 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Nimo
So defender then Wily Boly?
114 alf // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:20 PM

What no Cabaye Tiote Hatem for Pardews last game as Manager? Get in!
115 Beattie25 // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Santon has 2 problems.

Confidence and tactics.

His confidence is drained and is always fragile but the lad is 21. Imagine him at 27, he’ll be world class.

The tactical side of things from our point of view is again (as with many players) not suiting and/or bringing the best out of him.

Pace wise he as quick as Baines and dribbling wise I think he’s better. However Everton have a system designed to press up the pitch with Baines and Pienaar forcing the opposition to play clearances. On the odd occasion the opposition play out of defense they both track back and Neville, Jagielka, Distin and Heitinga plug the gaps.

With us if Santin goes forward Jonas holds back when he should be joining the attack. Anita and Tiote should be plugging gaps with Colo and Saylor and covering the full back position.

Pardew has the old fashioned 4-4-2 that is designed to stop the opposition counter attacking but with it brings a high line and against pacey attackers a long ball will always do us and with Jonas, Simmo, Colo and Willo we have the 4 slowest defenders whom are unable to cope with speed. Santon will be out of position often and will be blamed more than he should.

Watch Everton next time and see how they do it. It isn’t Pinearr covering for Baines it’s Distin moving left. Baines is out of position more than Santon but their tactics are simply better.

You don’t need coaching badges to see that. We are too conservative with one if the most exciting and talented teams in the leauge.

Blame lack of signings all you want but poor tactics are as much to blame as anything else this season.

Peoples criticisms of Santon are similar to that of Ben Arfa last season.

These players aren’t designed for the systems they’re forced to play and to ask them to do things unnatural to them is ok when it brings the best out if the team, but it doesn’t and it is far from bringing the best out of the individual.

I don’t think we’ll see the best of Santon and all his potential until Pardew changes the system or we find a man who can.
116 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:21 PM

williamson sucks

I get your point, he has the ability to beat people and drive at defenders which is good.

I just think any crossing or cut backs, balls slipped into the box aren’t great and his decision making isn’t great attacking wise.

Would be worth a go if we had a better LB alternative than jonas.
117 Spreadthetoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Ibiza
Norwich to me is absolutely pivotal and APs excuses are bordering on extremely repetitive. We made gr8 stirdes at OT and Emirates but then played very negative / contained football at SJP against Everton and that shower of shlte @ B&H. AP has got the personnel to do better, he’s proven that, so nothing less than a spirited performance will do for me. IMO looking at Ed’s teamsheet, there is more than enough there, and I think the defensive shape will be 100% better given the inclusion of Debuchy who I am really very excited about!
118 Rotonda heights // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Hadn’t seen this, but Munster has absolutely nailed it.

” Yes we can all see that Pardew had had injuries but he has also had plenty of players who were not injured. We have enough quality to be doing far better than 11 losses in 14 or whatever it is .

And losing to Brighton. Did u see the level of motivation on the pitch???? Its been an appalling season and Pardew and others ( including you ) need to stop hiding behind injuries.

Pardews tactics, team set up, negative vibes, shocking free kicks and corners are nothing to do with injuries, just bad training and a stupid approach.

Who dictates that we play a longer ball game than Stoke? And believe ne, if Pards doesnt cop himself on, Cabaye and other will leave NUFC because they wont want to waste their talents on him.

If he firnly believed in 4-3-3 and a tighter passing, possession game, then why do we depart from that so much on the pitch, and why do our players back off so much in order to keep their formation.

Its because, probably, the manager has a negative approach, and believes also in long ball football. Were Ba’s comments today inaccurate ? Nope
119 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Did we sign someone called Cabaye Tiote Hatem? How bizarre is that?
120 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:24 PM

tinman

do you think that cisse has forgot how to finish? just because they have trained all week with ranger dont mean anything,, thats more for the guys making chances,, the goal is in the same place every game and im sure cisse knows where it is,

TS

im shocked,, lol both you and ibiza agreeing , WOW

WWW

come of it man, no its not, but if we had to prioritize what is needed first, it would be a CB, we have 3 forwards and can make up numbers with both HBA and marv playing just behind, enough midfielders to make various formations
but only 3 CB of which we have been down to 1 on a tew times this season, perch is not the answer, and more often than not,, the CB left standing is williamson, who at times along side colo dont look bad, but with perch is a nightmare
121 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Beattie

I said that too.

You need cover from your defensive midfielders. Yes the winger might hang back a little but you dont want him dropping 50 yards away from the fullback to fill in his position.
122 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Sage
Both as important imo. True we only need 1 striker on the pitch at a time but our 1 good striker hasn’t been that good this season and if he gets hurt we are back to Shola (no Best or Lovernkrands to help us out this time round)

Ibiza
Thats the annoying thing mate we need a multiple players but we expect 1/2 more to come in which is realistic but its less than whats required
123 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:27 PM

catchy

I think you have some good views but your views are much more extreme than mine. Not wrong necessarily, just different solutions to the problems than me.

Agree your comment to tinman too……cisse played right last time as he had trained with perch how to stop baines and pienaar…this week obertan and debuchy will probably work all week on how to stop the norwich left side and cisse will slot back in the middle.

Pardews point wasn’t that cisse forgot how to play central but that nobody else had prepared to cope with baines and pienaar.

Well picked up.
124 Tinman // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Catchy, Transfer

Dont worry it was just a tongue in cheek comment. Im 95% sure Cisse will start, the only 5% is if he aint fit. Just having a little dig at the fact Pardew played Ameobi up front and Cisse on the wing against Everton, still annoys me haha. I know old news, but im a sad guy!

On the brighter side of life, I got a gold tooth today.
125 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Lads keep this one under your hats but i have it on good authority that we will finally capture debuchy on friday on a 5 year deal, he’ll wear no. 26. You heard it here first!
126 nimo // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:28 PM

i honestly cant remember have It written down at home but for life of me all i can get in my head is bachemback or bareback lol im prob way off
127 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Few more Nimo
Stambouli, Bakambu, Brahimi, Haidara
128 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Nimo- to be honest sakho is vastly overrated! He burst onto the scene as a highly promising 17 year old and PSG put alot of faith in him, paid him big, made him captain etc to keep him, then since hes just had horror form! he can be pretty error prone, ancelotti doesnt really trust him as centre back! not sure whats happened to him to be honest, he seems to have half the pace he had when he was 17/18, alot of times he is PSG’s weak link! I can only assume all the bloggers on here that want him to sign go from his Fifa or FM ratings which reflect what was expected of him when he was younger!
For me, from what i’ve seen the best centre half in france is marseilles N’koulou! think he would cost massive money though! After that Yanga-Mbiwa is very consistent, very quick, not much threat attacking though and not dominant in the air, would suit playing with a big man! Aymen Abdennour of toulouse is also a very good defender, great distribution and everyone at toulouse is for sale! aside from that there is Aurélien Chedjou who has had a few consistent years at Lille! For the stand out is Kurt Zouma at les verts but he is the absolute darling of FFF at the moment, future national team captain etc, if he were to become available i think all big teams would be in for him, the worry is his career may go the way of Varane (another fine centre half) who should be playing week in week out but settles for the Madrid bench! for me, NUFC would be a great step for Zouma before he makes the move to the very top!
129 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Tinman

bling
130 Pardews Perfect Battleplan // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Alfred you are a tool.
131 Jarra_Mag // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM

GOT THIS FROM THE SKY SPORTS TRANSFER CLOCKWATCH, ANYONE HEARD OF THEM?

France has been a lucrative place for Newcastle United to explore for new signings in recent seasons and a couple more players have been linked with moves to St James’ Park. L’Equipe claims Bastia’s 19-year-old attacking midfielder Florian Thauvin and Nancy left-back Massadio Haidara are being watched by Newcastle. Haidara has previously been linked with fellow Premier League clubs Aston Villa and Tottenham.
132 lesh // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Transfer Sage @121 is ever the diplomat. Fancy a go at sorting Syria out for starters?
133 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Tinman

good commitment going for the gold tooth haha.

WWYCD

I agree both are important both must be signed this window to give our squad the resemblance of balance. But if I could only pick 1 (not unlikely with our squad of clampets in charge) then I’d go for a CB
134 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM

catchy
A club our size with our revenue streams and draw shouldn’t have to be in a position where its a CB or a ST we need both to stay in the PL so get both
135 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Yo….It is annoying. Questions have been asked in the past as to with the slower approach in building a squad, would we be able to keep a squad together in that time to ever see somewhere near a finished product. Jury is still well and truly out, but I just don’t see it coming together any other way.
136 Williamsonsuks // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Agree with both of you. Santon will obviously mature and possibly beef out a bit, defo looks a star of the future. Still think it would be worth a try. Jonas offers nought past 70 yards, but do respect his work rate. Wouldn’t expect a 50 yard gap, and obviously depending on how the game is going or what team we are playing, just let them cover each other, with Jonas being the more defensive.
137 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Jarra… We’ve been linked to that Thauvin lad before i think. That LB is a new one although i cant see a LB being high priority
138 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM

lesh

I’d give it a go….it would surely be easier than sorting things out at NUFC haha.
139 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM

@spreadthetoon – Would love Belhanda but him and Benny on the same training ground would send Pards to an early grave! Not sure how much people know about Benny’s out bursts and behaviour at newcastle but i’ve heard from alot of people the club overlook alot that he does re:professionalism, late for training, the way he sometimes talks to staff etc, word is hes a major league nob alot of the time, Belhanda is similar, falls out with coaches and teammates like its going out of fashion, great talent though!
140 89Norcal // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:36 PM

jayphoto

Think his confidence was wracked by being benched, also heard Sakho and Ancelotti don’t see eye to eye.
141 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Sage
We shouldn’t have to have just one though thats my point, we are a big club and I am tired of being told we have to do it on the cheap. If our targets are too expensive go for players who are less expensive but are better than what we have
142 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM

also, linking to how benny is at Benton, i was told Haris Vuckic (when fit) has a habit of completely embarrassing GoalKeepers and defenders with outrageous finishes and techniques! Only problem is he’s not very gracious with it and has had fall outs with a few players in the past (nolan, smith and barton for a few) because of his lack of humility!
143 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:38 PM

WWYCD

A club of our size unfortunately wont bring in that much more money than your average prem league club.

We cant compete with the finances of the top end like city, man utd and chelsea…no way.

Then clubs like arsenal and liverpool generate so much more than us too.

We should be ahead of spurs, everton, etc as a result of ticket revenue as they will have similar levels of income commercially as us.

You are right though, it shouldnt be one or the other.

The annoying is the club seem to think living within your means in spending x amount even if we just get a striker. When in reality if we have only x amount we should split that between the positions we need.
144 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Ibiza
Slow approach? We stood still in the summer mate
145 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Jay…. Didn’t sakho win young player of the year in 2011? Or was that when he burst onto the scene? You never know sometimes a change in atmosphere can remotivate a player.
146 5Danny94 // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

It kinda sums up our luck at the moment. If you include Perch, that’s 11 injuries. Nobody else has more than 8.
147 ToonTinka // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Afternoon lads! Any gossip?

Not much news floating around ahh. Inter could pip us to Remy if the mail is to be believed. Aubameyang as a back up?

Toon Prodigy.
148 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM

@89norcal – dunno mate, hes definately alot slower than he was, looks constantly unfit! at 18 he was a machine but now he plays like hes hungover! I think ancelotti’s problem was that he was a poor trainer and didnt set a captains example!
for me i think he’s a victim of being too hyped when he came onto the scene, itd be hard for anyone to become the player he is expected to me, the guy definately needs a move and the potential is massively there, just he looks like he never wants to play
149 89Norcal // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Agree on Vuckic, seen his skill in the EL games. Did a sort of Elastico that shook the camera above the goal lol.
150 Rotonda heights // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM

jarra

Torq toon has mentioned Haidara today.

Amazing we have 3 french experts now: Niafron, Torq and jayphoto!
151 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Yo….I meant in the big picture, not just the last window (which was a major mistake).
152 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:42 PM

think Haris has a touch of the Zlatan about him! such a shame about his injury record
153 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Sage
Am not expecting to compete with City, Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea for money but howay Liverpool wont get much more than us history doesn’t pay

Everton have no money at all but invest intelligently through their scouting network now we are told our scouting network is top draw so why did we fail so badly in the summer? Network has a track record of finding great players for less than fair value so did they fail or did the board ignore their suggestions?

Imo if we dont invest enough this window and we get relegated we are in a far weaker position to bounce straight back up than last time
154 89Norcal // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM

@jayphoto

Well thats a shame, I would assume these French players would be emboldened by joining their NT teammates here. But maybe if we had money to blow we could take a chance on him. Guess Mirin is the likely option.
155 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM

I have always liked vukic and think his lack of pace isn’t an issue…works ok for berbatov….its all about using your attributes and over coming your short falls.

unfortunately his injury record will ruin him I feel.
156 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

lol im not an expert, just work in Paris about 10-15 times a year! can only talk on subjects i hear about but the problems of Sakho are big talk in Paris, when im over there i tend a few nights in the hotel and there football coverage is a bit more indepth than ours
157 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Nimo there is 31 year old named Rochemback from Brazil. Too bad couldn’t help you recall.
158 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:46 PM

WWYCD

I didn’t think liverpool would get that much but they do.

They got a 125mil sponsorship deal for 5 years of wearing warrior sports shirts….that doesn’t include the advertising they get on top from their sponsor.

That vastly outnumbers us….they also sell the 2nd most replica shirts of any english team worldwide.

They get most games on TV so tats a bit extra money too.
159 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM

same with ajax at amsterdam, see them a fair bit too as have an amsterdam based client! to be honest when your on ur own in a city and youve seen the sights their aint much to do but watch a couple matches lol, also pretty knowledgeable about FC Dusseldorf but unfortunately the toon arent linked with any of their players
160 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Ibiza
But big picture if we are planning on slowly developing a top 6 team u cant have a mistake window without consequences. Our kids aren’t good enough and come summer out big guns aren’t going to be happy with more excuses…I wouldn’t be if I had no attachments to Newcastle

If MA is serious about this club and the money that comes with it time to take a hit now for the bigger future rather than gambling again imo
161 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:49 PM

never seen Mirin play to be honest, never seen a Valciennes game and theyre not that talked about as a smaller a club! (frances answer to wigan)
I think Toulouse are the team to plunder in France, in Ben Yedder, Riviere, M’Bengue, Sissoko theyve got some players that could make a big difference and theyre not known for selling high
162 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Makes no sense why they would sell Sakho if he isn’t either a troublemaker or a liability Or they buy Chellini, Pique or somebody.
163 ToonMauritius // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM

hi lads
Doesn’t look like we are any closer to sealing the deal on Rémy, or anyone else.
164 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Sage
That is deeply disturbing and makes me wonder why the hell we get so little but regardless they don’t invest well and haven’t for a long time plus they also pay a whole lot more in wages than us to their income is hit by bigger costs

Still in the grander scheme of things there are player out their with in our reach that we just wont pay the going rate for
165 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM

www

i agree.. we are not a top 4 club in some ways , but in other ways we are, and should have enough to go out and get a few players in

5danny94
colo jonas cisse will be back this weekend and have not been long term

out of the rest, saylor might get in the team, but not much football in 2 years, so both cabaye and HBA are missing from the first team,,
great players, but not a whole team like your trying to say
goslin would not get anywhere near midfield nor raylor nor vuckic
simpson should not be let near the team
166 toon_dog // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM

danny graham in st james
167 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Ok I am mildly wound up being a NUFC fan at the moment so apologies for my menopausal out bursts think am gonna turn the lights out and have a little think about myself
168 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM

WWYCD

I dont worry liverpool have bigger sponsorship deals. Thats fine with me. If they sell the 2nd most prem league shirts world wide then it’s natural they will get a bigger deal off kit maker and off sponsors.

The main one which annoys me is sunderland. We got 8mil off wonga for stadium name and shirt sponsor. Sunderland got 20mil off invest in africa for just shirts.

How can they have a bigger commercial pull than us?
169 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Thauvin and Haidara have been linked. Maybe Haidara was Arsenal or Liverpool before. But popped up today again. Think it was us.
170 lesh // Jan 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Transfer Sage @126… there could be one or two problems you’re right but at a last resort, there’s always the nuclear option…….

…..but you’d have to get the timing right to ensure that the owner and his co-conspiritor are nowhere near Newcastle when you press the button!

As a matter of protocol, the matter’s been discussed at lenghth with Obama and Putin and they’re quite relaxed – in fact they wholeheartedly agree with the strategy!

And, even Ahmadinijad’s behind you too as he’s keen to rid the world of destructive influences!!!
171 lesh // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM

So you may be off-site for a little while then WWYCD?
172 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM

catchy
As rare as it is seems we agree on something haha

Sage
Aye bleeding SUNDERLAND got a bigger sponsorship deal than us….SUNDERLAND I mean what the fudge?! Smaller stadium which they cant fill, history not comparable to ours, yo yo team for how long, no star players, terrible kit, horrible football, no results, no European football and no paper coverage how the sweet baby Jesus does that equal them getting more than double what we get! Must be a money laundering scam surely
173 bambams // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Krul to be kind

Thanks for that info fella
174 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Transfer Sage

now i blame pardew for a lot of things, but all team related , training tactics subs team selections, and the finger should be pointed at him for that, he sets up all those things

the finger should be pointed at dick lameass for how much money we make from sponsers and transfers,

one thing i carnt be sure on is how much AP stresses to DL which is a priority, a CB has been needed for 3 windows now,, andnow its urgent
175 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM

lesh
Probably should be mate but likelyhood is I shall cave again within half an hour
176 ToonTinka // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Didnt really expect these two to be fit to be honest.

Hoping the players that are going to be fit plus Debuchy debut is going to give us the spring board we need this weekend. This until we get cabs and taylor back. Hopefully striker in by the end if the week and centreback by the end of the window. Then its ben arfas turn to come back into the fold. Exciting times. Its been rough, very frustrating. But bright times a head i feel.

Toon prodigy.
177 John Tudor // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

you just dont get it ashleys just trying to break the club as people keep saying hes a billionaire whats it to him well i not taken in on his manouvres a player in here and there dross served up pardews 8 year deal for 1 lucky season we can see it we are staring @ relagation if they think they can avoid without spending god help us they know nowt
178 Wayayman // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Anyone else feeling a little deja-vu about all this. Last transfer window, Anita in the door quickly then a flurry of speculation, message boards buzzing, full of anticipation then… Nothing…
179 nimo // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

just been speaking to my friend deffo a guy called baheback plays for troyes on loan from psg think it was.. he’s heard nothing new.. haidara we have looked at but nery we seem to be looking at most and both represented by same people apparently.. this other guy he’s not heard anything but that has been in paper
180 jayphoto // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

id take danny graham as a squad player! If we signed Danny Graham and a top centre half – yang-mbiwa or douglas id see it as a successful window! Grahams a toon fan, would give 100% and would probably be more content with not playing as much! A team of Krul, debuchy, Collo, NEW CB, Santon, anita, cabaye, tiote, ben arfa, cisse and marveaux in a 4-3-3 would be a fine team which we could then add to more in the summer!
181 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Yo….I touched on this, I think yesterday. The first thing to say is that i’m not saying I completely agree, but given what we know this is the minimum I’d expect.

The clubs set out objectives were, get us running in the black and then build us a competitive squad. From my understanding we are now running in the black, so the push should be on the squad.

This window needs to be dealt with properly, but I’m not expecting miracles, just enough progress. Then when summer comes a calling and that extra TV revenue will be a chance for Ashley to show us how this plan really works, I can’t see too many reasonable excuses being left at that point.
182 John Tudor // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:05 PM

ashley reads this blog and is laffing his tits off
183 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM

ha, i love it. pards is going to push them as hard as they can to come back but not for one game where they then stand a chance of missing many more games?

a la HBA?

sometimes i think our injury and fitness problems are as down to the staff as it is to happenstance
184 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Ibiza
Only probably with that is banking on us being in the league come summer
185 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:10 PM

matty….You laugh, but isn’t that a sign of learning a lesson? You could tell the pressure was mounting at that time and he clearly made another bad call in bringing HBA back too quickly. I don’t think he will be eager to make the same mistake again, whilst the next results is always an important one, one result does not define a season. From his comments he seems to have learned that, now we’ll see what he does.
186 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Yo…I did think about adding two points to the end of that, the first being that it’s all well and good if we stay up and the second being that the players would give them the summer window to act properly.

Wouldn’t want to deny anyone the chance to raise those points though, being the nice fence sitting guy that I am
187 WWYCD // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Ibiza
Haha such a nice gent u are allowing me to chip in again haha

Anyway I am off enjoy yourselves
188 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Yo….I do try to involve others in my ramblings

Take it easy.
189 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Nimo – It’s Beck. Found him.
190 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ16F-OvOrw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
191 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM

ibiza

can you really insinuate that he’s learning a lesson? let’s wait and see…..that was a sunday league call to play a player at 50% fitness

and if all these reports are true that ‘cabaye was injured from the euros and that’s why he wasn’t at his best’ (nevermind the negative tactics or being played out of position), then he blatantly ignored the injury for twelve weeks???
192 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:24 PM

and ibiza,

let’s be honest…when HBA came back from Fulham, we were hardly embroiled in the injury crises we only recently found ourselves in. It was embellished to no end by AP and only recently has it become closer to what AP was harping on when we were in reality missing two, possibly three starters
193 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:25 PM

for* Fulham
194 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Bahebeck is supposed to be a future star. doubt he’d come here

everyone thought it was him on trial last year but turned out to be someone else….can’t recall his name though. my gut is this ‘rumour’ has been birthed from that. don’t think we stand a chance of getting him
195 robin // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM

This Season pardew has been found out last season was a fluke but we still had some. Heavy defeats This Season will be his last we didn’t invest in new players this idea of one out one in is bull which only leads back into the Championship I think Hughton will be the final nail in pardews coffin we were well beaten there last season and only the Odd little turkeys on here would disagree with me pardew has had 2 years and we are a Shambles!
196 iggystinger // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM

is it true about colo wanting to go back to argentina meant to be unsettled
197 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwg4PYpYaRQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
198 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

izzy

That rumours has been denied by colo’s agent.

It has come about has his dad is involved with the club in argentina.
199 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Matty….From his words, I think that is exactly what I can do. I didn’t insinuate he had, but that his words indicated that to be so. As we have both now said…we will see.

I don’t know the severity of Cabayes injury, but I do know several players play through some and it’s fine. Don’t want to speculate who, what, why or when on this issue. It seems clear he was below par and I think it’s somewhat safe to assume part of that will be down to an injury (whatever the severity).

On Benny, i didn’t say under pressure due to injury. When I said pressure I meant to get something from the game. I think we can both agree that is more likely with Benny in the team, but he got it wrong and Benny it seems wasn’t ready.
200 nimo // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

we deffo been watching and asking questions, whether he would come don’t know..
201 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:37 PM

iggy

think there is weight behind it though his agent claims he ‘cannot believe’ the claims

but when your dad and a number of other sources come out and say it, it becomes harder to refute. add in our current plight and perhaps AP and colo’s quickly deteriorating relationship
202 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Gone top 2 players clear in the injuries table and that’s without Perch being added
http://www.365stats.com/football/injuries
203 Robby Bobson // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Iggy…i highly doubt the Colo claims, its his dad off on way i reckon trying to look important.

L’Equipe mention we could challenge QPR for M’Vila, likely they have just assumed we could be as we seem to be after all frenchies….potentially great player but a complete nut case.
204 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Ibiza

Spot on.

Pardew isn’t the first and won’t be the last to gamble on a players fitness in a game he feels he needs to get a result from. Sometimes it works and sometimes it backfires.

Is there any news on ben arfa’s injury? would love to know when he is back….can’t find much being said other than a couple weeks ago pardew expected him back in the new year.
205 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:42 PM

….not to mention if these claims were false, don’t you think our captain would come out and deny such claims, even in passing, no matter the coverage? does he not have a duty as captain to do so?

well, he hasn’t….and he’s hardly been leading the team as of late. do i think personally he wants off? perhaps. all indications in my mind seem to say probably. will he be off? probably not. no way he can afford to turn down the kind of money he’s receiving here….at least til the summer
206 Dannyo // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Collos dad was quoted on this through a TV interview.
There’s not much denying he’s actually said the words.
207 Beattie25 // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Colo and Cisse injured?

Don’t think so.
208 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:44 PM

TS, Ibiza

I remember hearing the new year as well, but within a few days of him ‘re-injuring’ himself or whatever, i thought he was only supposed to be out for three weeks as a ‘precaution’ so he wasn’t out for three months…..surely i’m not concocting this in my head?
209 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Charlie

Injuries are an issue for this coming game and certainly played a part at brighton.

2 things to add for me.

1. we lost a lot of games to teams like west ham, swansea, fulham etc when we had some injuries but not enough to account for the kind of performance we saw.

2. the kids aren’t that good, very overhyped but I think some of them showed poor energy in games when they have been called on.
210 Wandering Geordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:45 PM

One day, a 4th grader came home from school and asks his father, “Dad,
everyone in class can count to 100, but I can only count to 10. How come?”
His father says, “Well son, that’s because you’re from Sunderland.”
The next day, the 4th grader came home from school and says, “Dad, today
everyone in class recited the entire alphabet. I only know up to the letter
‘L.’ How come?”
Again, his father replies, “Well, that’s because you’re from Sunderland.”
Then one day, the 4th grader came home and was all excited, wearing a smile
from ear to ear. He says, “Dad! Dad! Today, we were in gym class, and all
the boys had little penises, but mine was huge! Is that ’cause I’m from
Sunderland??”
His father replies, “No son, that’s because you’re 28 years old.”
211 Robby Bobson // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:45 PM

But Colo just can’t slip off…hes on a massive contract and san lorenzo are hardly money bags.
212 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM

matty

Yeh thats what I thought. Expected him back around the brighton game to be honest.

Also agree that colo’s dad did say that. But colo’s agent denied it. His dad could easily say that, say he tried to get his son over, win some points with his club in argentina and paint newcastle to be the bad guys.

You would expect colo to deny it but maybe he doesn’t want to make his dad look foolish (rather not say anything and ignore it)…difficult when family is involved.
213 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM

robby bobson

exactly…he has a 4 year contract….would take a fair amount to buy our captain.
214 Wandering Geordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Sunderland have just signed a top Chinese international for 5 million pounds: WY ME
215 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I wonder if we could pass Willo off wearing a Colo wig? Do they make players kick a ball before they sign them?
216 iggystinger // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM

cheers though it might be the usual bulls**t,i seen qpr bid just over 6million for mvila seems cheap compared to what they were askin for a year ago
217 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM

iggy…SS have an article going about on 10 players probably to avoid this January. Mvila was on the list due to his attitude of late. Apparently that and form have resulted in his lower valuation.

Mind you, they also listed Remy as one to avoid….
218 Sazzer // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM

He’s been in trouble since then I don’t really remember what.
219 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM

From SS: “With AC Milan trying to sell Ignazio Abate to Zenit St Petersburg and Luca Antonini, Tuttosport reports the Serie A club want to then launch a move for Newcastle United defender Davide Santon, who formerly played for Inter Milan.”
220 geoff777 // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Colo’s wages will make him stay, he won’t get better anywhere else.

I think he’s just going through the motions.
There’s a lot less shot blocking going on in defence compared to last season, when the opposition hardly got a shot off without a Toon player bravely diving in.
221 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 1:56 PM

m’vila for six mil seems incredibly low. an incredible player who will look worse than he actually is in a disjointed qpr side

surely if we’re passing on him we must be serious about sissokho? I hope so, b/c he’s one of the only DCMs who i can think of in our price range who is on par or better than m’vila.

am i wrong in thinking we should’ve sold tiote when 25mil was being bandied about? this and season parts of last season he’s hardly looked a 5mil player if i’m honest
222 John Tudor // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM

role on feb 1st no one in make plans for mass exodus when all it would have took is 3 out
223 Robby Bobson // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:01 PM

im sure ben arfa was on many lists for players to avoid…but m’vila goes clubbing before matches and punches 17 yr olds and hires and gets robbes by prosititues….seems too much trouble, hatem was just moody.
224 iggystinger // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:01 PM

between the talk of us needin a striker what do most of yous think about remy from the few games iv seen of him hes a hit or miss seem to be one of those throw the dummy out the pram if things dont go his way and his recent injury record is extensive and his values around 10mill i think it would be a gamble if we took him just wanted to see what u guys thought
225 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:03 PM

matty

I would like to agree selling tiote then would have been good.

Look at how spurs re invested money from carrick, berbatov, keane and modric

the problem is we wont spend it all or if we do it will be spread of over 2 years and will do more harm than good.

We have a profit of 36mil in transfers over the last 5 years. I imagine the 36mil has been spent on wages and sustaining the team for a year in the championship with lower tv revenue.
226 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Transfer Sage
Totally agree with the West Ham and Swansea games we were crap only woke up when we went behind.

But injuries in the last 4 or 5 games have taken their toll as we have had no one to come in off the bench

Also remember the fans shouting and bawling to play Benni against Fulham and looked what has happened.

Would not risk anybody against Norwich and hope we pick up a point -Got to Get them fit for the Reading and Aston Villa games.

PS- thats why I would be breaking my neck to get at least three defenders in before the window closes – see Blackburn have turned down West Ham’s a £2million offer for Olsen. We should be in for players like him

Kids – Our much vaunted kids – sorry not good enough for premiership/never mind reserve league where they get stuffed every other week – pass judgement if they go out on loan for a season
227 JackButler // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Cabaye and Saylor both back by the end of the transfer window to be unveiled as ‘It’s like having two new signings’!
228 Toonpiper // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Lol:

@paulswoods1: #bbcsportsday Newcastle to be sold to Russian billionaire by the eow. Pep Guardiola + transfer budget signed up to take over #NUFC
229 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM

iggy

remy has a good injury record 36, 36 , 43 , 42 games during the past 4 years for his clubs.

this season he has also featured in 23 games so far

not that bad is it?
230 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:09 PM

iggy

agreed. for 10mil we could have guidetti and then another pacy winger.

remy wont be a 20 goal a season player for us, never, so i just hope we are attempting to buy him to play him out wide in a 433, not as a second striker in a 442
231 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Heres a conundrum for you guys, who would you rather in charge, cashly or saudi oil baron?
232 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM

JB….I fully expect to hear that at some point, I just hope it’s along with some actual new signings.

TS….His injury record seems better than most of our current team
233 JackButler // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Toonpiper

there is a conspiracy theory that says the only reason Pardew was given an eight year deal was that when Ashley sells up his mate would get a massive payout when he would inevitably be sacked.
But we are not that lucky, we’re stuck with Ashley for a long while yet
234 ToonTinka // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM

I’v made a list of the injuries we have sustained since Pre-season or there about from July. Take into account our threadbare squad due to the board not investing and lack of quality cover, and also are extra Euro games. Also take into account our suspensions. This makes for very grim reading.

James Perch Knee Injury 2013 January 5th
Gael Bigirimana Hip/Thigh Injury 2013 January 2nd
Papiss Cisse Hip/Thigh Injury 2013 January 2nd
Fabricio Coloccini Hamstring Injury 2013 January 2nd
Danny Simpson Broken Toe 2012 December 29th
Vurnon Anita Ankle/Foot Injury 2012 December 26th
Jonas Gutierrez Knee Injury 2012 December 24th
Hatem Ben Arfa Hamstring Injury 2012 December 10th
Jonas Gutierrez Knee Injury 2012 December 3rd
Cheik Tiote Hamstring Injury 2012 December 3rd
Demba Ba Hamstring Injury 2012 December 3rd
Davide Santon Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 December 3rd
Steven Taylor Hamstring Injury 2012 November 25th
Papiss Cisse Hip/Thigh Injury 2012 November 22nd
Hatem Ben Arfa Hamstring Injury 2012 November 22nd
Shola Ameobi Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 November 17th
Gabriel Obertan Toe Injury 2012 November 14th
Papiss Cisse Back Injury 2012 November 11th
Yohan Cabaye Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 November 11th
Demba Ba Calf/Shin Injury 2012 November 11th
Jonas Gutierrez Knee Injury 2012 November 11th
James Perch Thigh Muscle Strain 2012 November 4th
Sammy Ameobi Hamstring Injury 2012 November 4th
Demba Ba Calf/Shin Injury 2012 November 4th
Yohan Cabaye Hamstring Injury 2012 November 4th
Danny Simpson Shoulder Injury 2012 October 28th
Demba Ba Calf/Shin Injury 2012 October 28th
Shane Ferguson Hip/Thigh Injury 2012 October 10th
Yohan Cabaye Abdominal Pains 2012 October 9th
Dan Gosling Knee Injury 2012 October 8th
Haris Vu?ki? ACL Knee Injury 2012 October 8th
Rob Elliott Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 October 4th
Steven Taylor Calf/Shin Injury 2012 September 29th
Yohan Cabaye Mouth Infection 2012 September 28th
Fabricio Coloccini Hip/Thigh Injury 2012 September 27th
Papiss Cisse Illness 2012 September 18th
Tim Krul Arm/Elbow Injury 2012 September 9th
Fabricio Coloccini Hamstring Injury 2012 September 5th
Danny Simpson Hamstring Injury 2012 September 2nd
Haris Vu?ki? Groin Strain 2012 August 31st
James Perch Neck Injury 2012 August 30th
Ryan Taylor ACL Knee Injury 2012 August 30th
Demba Ba Calf/Shin Injury 2012 August 18th
Cheik Tiote Calf/Shin Injury 2012 August 18th
Shola Ameobi Hamstring Injury 2012 August 18th
Shane Ferguson Gilmores Groin 2012 August 17th
Cheik Tiote Calf/Shin Injury 2012 August 11th
Fabricio Coloccini Thigh Muscle Strain 2012 August 11th
Demba Ba Calf/Shin Injury 2012 August 9th
Papiss Cisse Hamstring Injury 2012 August 8th
Hatem Ben Arfa Knee Injury 2012 August 8th
Shola Ameobi Knock 2012 August 7th
Sammy Ameobi Hamstring Injury 2012 August 2nd
Dan Gosling Hip/Thigh Injury 2012 July 27th
Papiss Cisse Illness 2012 July 16th
Steven Taylor Hamstring Injury 2012 July 12th

56 injuries in total. Now how do you get a team to play good football with this amount of disruption in such a small squad in 6 months? The answer is simple. You can’t. Lack of investment, lack of quality cover throughout the squad due to the board and their wayward gamble in the summer. Coupled with low confidence and moral in the squad for the same reason. First team players are a shadow of themselves because of it.

Hopefully we are on the up now, and the board will fix this mess they have created.

Toon-Prodigy.
235 Transfer Sage // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM

I dont think remy would be a 20 goal a season player bu t could imagine between 10 and 15 goals which is ok when we have cisse who can score.

Also ben arfa chips in and if played further forward cabaye should get more, as will marvoux.
236 John Tudor // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:15 PM

the management are clearly having a laff @our expense me personally will not give anymore of the goverments money to the fat git
237 Robby Bobson // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Ipswich signimg franck nouble is making the headlines on ssn….shows how little is going on.
238 mattyNUFC // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:16 PM

toontinka

congratulations on your research…..1) how many of those injuries were fabrications (at least half)

2) how do you argue against the manu performance and arsenal for 60 minutes? those were performances with a ‘decimated’ squad yet they were our best by far of the season…..you can still play good football with back-ups. it’s how they’re set up and how they’re coached.

the real question you should be asking is how you manage to lose 12 in 14 with no answer….
239 rainrix // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM

That was eye-rape toonrinka But that is pretty horrific something has to be up with our facilities, i remember something about the training pitches being hard during winter and that was causing some problems but i thought that was fixed. Maybe its tiote
240 barelylegaltoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Hi there guys, ive been following the blog religiously for over five years but comment only sparodically.
but every know and then I hear some news and pop it on here.
My best friend is currently in Arnhem holland and he says newcastle have reignited their interest in eric pieters the left back.
I couldnt find anything on the web but there are articles coming out of italy today claiming milan and roma are interested in davide santon.
It wouldnt suprise me at all if a santon sale of 12-16 million would fund pieters 4-5 million and a striker.
241 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM

ToonTinka
Like you to do a list from last year and see how it compares
242 JackButler // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Ibiza

No doubt that old chestnut will be run out at some point as we seem to be clutching at straws during every window that Ashley’s overseen. Bet Pardew’s having sleepless nights already thinking about be thrown out in front of the press.
243 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM

ToonTink….And while your at it, I have some laundry that needs doing

Barelylegal….Interesting. Where is £12-16m coming from, just a rough estimation? I’d be shocked if it was anywhere near that to be completely honest.
244 John Tudor // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM

watch the go flow
245 barelylegaltoon // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:26 PM

apparently the transfer of santon would habe to be enough to fund both pieters and a replacement striker. as it seems ashley is again unwilling to release additional funds
246 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:26 PM

JB…..I imagine the post window press conference speeches are a bit like mad libs. Just insert new players names and you’re ready to go
247 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:27 PM

on the kids

ferg has got a quality left foot, we have all seen it, some of his crosseshave been top draw, he should be encouraged to use it more,, given the confidence to use it, he is nippy , and gets stuck into tackles,, he can be a top player

i remember abied in pre seasons, he was one of our top players, i seen him 2 times, and i think he is a good player

bigi,, he has been given the confidence to go out and play, i dont think he is any better than the 2 above and will get better

amalf,, does not seem bad at all, good ability, very hard working

santon, only 21, yet i feel he been let down the most by pardew, some of you have gave him a hard time for not being maldini now, face it he gets caught out because he is trying to be LB and LW and he dont get te help he needs,
take jose and jonas, there looked quality together because IMO they worked together, santon is only 21 and trying to do both jobs,

tav, i would of had him at right back all season, i think he is better than simpson right now, and can only get better,

im not saying these should all start, but i dont think there as bad as pardew is making out,, he should have been saying, my senior players have let the kids down, there looking for leaders and no one showed up for them, looking at the poll bigi, top

he should say to players like obertan,, watch the kids and learn, he has no fight in him, and i would not have him anywhere near the team when we are scrapping
248 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Barely….Well thanks for the info, we shall see if anything materialises
249 catchy in norway // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM

west brom

42 injuries in that time,,
Marc-Antoine Fortune Injury Hamstring Injury 2013 January 5th
Zoltan Gera Injury Knee Injury 2013 January 5th
Youssuf Mulumbu Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 December 26th
Jonas Olsson Injury Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 December 26th
Goran Popov Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 December 26th
Steven Reid Injury Calf/Shin Injury 2012 December 13th
Liam Ridgewell Injury Ankle/Foot Injury 2012 December 8th
Claudio Yacob Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 December 1st
Billy Jones Injury Illness 2012 November 29th
Jonas Olsson Injury Calf/Shin Injury 2012 November 24th
Zoltan Gera Injury Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 November 24th
Youssuf Mulumbu Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 November 17th
Gareth McAuley Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 November 14th
Youssuf Mulumbu Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 November 10th
James Morrison Injury Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 November 10th
Ben Foster Injury Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 November 5th
James Morrison Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 November 4th
Shane Long Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 October 28th
Claudio Yacob Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 October 20th
Youssuf Mulumbu Injury Knock 2012 October 18th
Romelu Lukaku Injury Ankle/Foot Injury 2012 October 6th
Jerome Thomas Injury Illness 2012 October 3rd
Gareth McAuley Injury Knock 2012 September 30th
Billy Jones Injury Knee Injury 2012 September 30th
Chris Brunt Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 September 30th
Liam Ridgewell Injury Calf/Shin Injury 2012 September 26th
Boaz Myhill Injury Thumb/Wrist Injury 2012 September 24th
James Morrison Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 September 22nd
Goran Popov Injury Groin Strain 2012 September 11th
Zoltan Gera Injury Knock 2012 September 7th
Steven Reid Injury Hamstring Injury 2012 September 1st
Romelu Lukaku Injury Ankle/Foot Injury 2012 August 26th
Peter Odemwingie Injury Groin/Pelvis Injury 2012 August 23rd
Jonas Olsson Injury Knock 2012 August 15th
James Morrison Injury Ankle/Foot Injury 2012 August 15th
Liam Ridgewell Injury Hip/Thigh Injury 2012 August 10th
Jerome Thomas Injury Knee Injury 2012 August 6th
Steven Reid Injury Knock 2012 August 2nd
Chris Brunt Injury Calf/Shin Injury 2012 July 22nd
George Thorne Injury Knock 2012 July 17th
Jerome Thomas Injury Knock 2012 July 17th

is there squad better than ours
250 robin // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Ibiza back by popular demand what a Clown your craicks lifting maybe if you actually went to the Match instead of playing Fifa 13 you would know what you are blurting on about us in the real world are fed up to the akers with League one football at Premier league prices. Ashley might fool daft little know nowts like you and the other Social retards that hide in the house when I’m paying to watch Pardews cock-ups going through the motions!
251 ToonTinka // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Matty, that was info from physioroom.com

I have no idea why someone would want to fabricate NUFC’s injurys on that site. They have been reported to the best of my knowledge going from their website. I’ll take it as truth though, I have no reason not to.

Man U & Arsenal. Even the sum shines out a dogs ass some days. 2 games out of is it 20? Hardly something to jump and clap to. This squad has been decimated for 6 months.

Ibiza, drop it in mate. Im on a wk off

It took me 5 mins to copy and paste that info. If it lets me go back to last season, i’d be more than happy to compare lads
252 AmericanGeordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I think Ed has got the starting XI right for this one:

4-2-3-1
Krul
Debuchy-Willo-Colo-Santon
Bigi-Jonas
Marveaux-Anita-Obertan
Cisse

HWTL!!!
253 Les Grossman // Jan 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I too have heard some worrying rumours that Santon could be away back to italy, and the club are trying to push this through to bring in funds for striker and defender.
Sale of Demba Ba paid for Debuchy!
254 Rake // Jan 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Selling Santon doesn’t sit right with me….
255 Les Grossman // Jan 8, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Rake

Berlusconi: “We are following about 100 young players. [Roma's Mattia] Destro and [Davide] Santon? I like both.” #NUFC
256 Wandering Geordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Just been reading Ole sport( Argentian newspaper here in Lima) and San lorenzo are preparing to take Collo back to Argentina
257 Wandering Geordie // Jan 8, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Reports say that Collo’s rep is in Newcastle with Collo’s father to meet Directors..

http://www.ole.com.ar/san-lorenzo/Coloccini_0_842915746.html