Newcastle Still After England Center-Back


For some reason big Sam Allardyce always goes for the older players – even when they are past their best and it seems true today, as the West Ham manager is trying to get 35 year-old Sylvain Distin, the former Newcastle player to London.

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James Tomkins – frustrated at lack of playing time this season

If West Ham get Distin, the conventional logic is they would let one of their top younger players – 23 year-old James Tomkins  – leave the club, since James isn’t getting too much playing time at the Hammers these days.

Whenever we’ve watched James play – either at center-back or defensive midfield – he’s always looked a solid young player, who we think could do a good job at Newcastle.

Newcastle were interested in James last January, but West Ham were unwilling to sell, but things could be different if they get Distin or another center-back into West Ham this month.

talkSPORT is reporting the England U21 International is unsettled and frustrated by his lack of first-team opportunities lately, and James may want a move away from the Hammers to get his career back on track.

One advantage with the 6’4″ Tomkins moving to Newcastle, is that he is a versatile player who could be used across the back four and in defensive midfield, and he’s a good footballer, who is also a good reader of the game for one so young.

We think Tomkins would be a great buy for Newcastle at around £4M, so we’ll keep a close eye on who West Ham manage to bring into the club over the next few weeks.

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98 comments so far

  • RonVanDam

    Jan 10, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #1

    There are better defenders than Tomkins around the same price range. No thanks

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  • toon1707

    Jan 10, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Comment #2

    I agree RVD if he can’t get a game at West Ham then why do we want him

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  • RonVanDam

    Jan 10, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #3

    Few reasons why Pardew wants him and could convince MA to buy him are:
    He’s 23
    6ft 4
    cost 4m to get
    Is English. Will have a high resell value in a few years once we’ve developed him

    I still wouldnt buy him and would repeat myself – there are much better players out there for a similar fee

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  • RonVanDam

    Jan 10, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Comment #4

    Other reson would be: he’s versatile

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  • GAZ09

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    Comment #5

    Would be a decent buy, much better than Williamson!

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  • jimmysmith

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    Comment #6

    ‘Newcastle Still After England Center-Back”

    First, we’re “unleashing” Adam Campbell to, I suppose, terrorise Premier league defences, and now this.

    Ed, have you been giving it a nudge.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    Comment #7

    Well at the moment West Ham have one of the best defensive records in the league if we had their defense we would be in the top 6!!!!

    As much as i would like to see us get a good ball playing centre half i think we also need a really big no nonsense centre half who will not get skinned and who will get stuck in as Colo is a bit of a fairy and Williamson is shite!

    If we can get Tomkins for 5 million and maybe Pieters or Mbiwa for similar we would suddenly have a backline that would be solid and a threat from set pieces

    I think Colo is maybe a bit fed up as there was rumours about the players having meetings for why we did not buy anyone in the summer (people in the know’s words not mine!)

    He maybe thought that we would have a proper go for the Champions League and now realises it wont happen just cannot be bothered with another relegation battle

    He may leave in the summer which would be sad as the last 2 seasons he has been brilliant

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  • Jamie McKellar

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    Comment #8

    cant see him joining us, but stranger things have happened

    personally dont want him, but after seeing williamsons performances of late, of which i could do a better job, so Tomkins would be a welcome

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  • GAZ09

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:07 AM

    Comment #9

    Anyone think we might be looking to sign players who would stick with us if we end up in the championship?

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  • Dagwoodz

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    Comment #10

    As much as Williamson has tried and given it his all, he’s just not the quality that we need in our back 4 on a consistent basis. Tomkins would be an upgrade to Williamson, so if he does come in, it’s a welcome addition.

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  • Jamie McKellar

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:14 AM

    Comment #11

    exactly Dagwoodz, not anything to shout about, but someone who could step up when needed if Colo or Saylor get injured or suspended again

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  • Kc-Toon

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:14 AM

    Comment #12

    Hopefully we can add a player with a bit of fight to jump into centre half. Tomkins for me, isnt what we need right now. Douglas would be my ideal signing, not too bad at playing the ball along the deck, aswell as a few crunching tackles, which i haven’t seen from a toon player for god knows how. Would love dede aswell, hopefully hes caught Carrs attention with him apparently monitering south america recently.

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  • Jamie McKellar

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:23 AM

    Comment #13

    anyone else want a CB with a bit of pace? annoying when you see players jog past them without breaking a sweat

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:44 AM

    Comment #14

    Tomkins is solid, wouldnt mind him, less of a gamble than the likes of douglas.

    Althogh he may be 35 and ditched us before but if Distin is availble he is exactly.what we nees..

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jan 10, 2013 at 2:45 AM

    Comment #15

    *need…absolute beast, great in the air, experienced and pacey for his age.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Jan 10, 2013 at 3:08 AM

    Comment #16

    Is Tomkins quick???

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  • Newcastleforlife

    Jan 10, 2013 at 4:27 AM

    Comment #17

    Younes Belhanda @ 10 million absolute bargain
    Wilfred Bony also available at the same rate…

    Why waste 9 million on Remy , if we can get one of the above at 10 million……

    Sign one of the above players and play 4-2-3-1
    and sign a good cb, and holding MF and a championship ST

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 10, 2013 at 4:39 AM

    Comment #18

    hope we sign players who are ready, not young and upcoming.

    Hope mick lowes is correct # once bitten twice shy

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  • Sir Erec

    Jan 10, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    Comment #19

    Can’t say I have watched Tomkins too much recently, my last memory of him was of our 5-0 home win against West Ham two years back.

    Leon Best absolutely dominated him and Tomkins just couldn’t seem to stop slipping around the pitch.

    Hopefully he has improved dramatically as the player from that night should never be on our squad.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Jan 10, 2013 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #20

    @17:

    Vitesse would not let Bony leave for 10Mil !

    The time to get Boney would of ben a year and a half ago before he emerged as a major talent in Holland.

    It is widely accepted that Boney will be moving end season but the names of Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern, Dortmond, AC and Inter Milan, PSG, and even Man Shitty are all Clubs who are lining up to bid for him!

    I first pointed him out almost two years ago, back then Vitesse Arnhem wanted 1OMil for him!
    If you think you can get him to come to us for 10Mil, then you not being Realistic!

    As for Tomkins? Er No thanks! like someone said above, there are much better players out there for less!

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  • Dagwoodz

    Jan 10, 2013 at 5:46 AM

    Comment #21

    @EXPATMAGPIE

    So you don’t rate Tomkins above Williamson? If he is above Williamson, I would say that’s an improvement on the squad.

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  • Sir Erec

    Jan 10, 2013 at 5:55 AM

    Comment #22

    Dagwoodz

    While Tompkins is an improvement over Willo, at the 5mil fee quoted, we could get someone else who is comparatively a bigger step up than Tompkins is.

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  • AMEOBI

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:03 AM

    Comment #23

    English players always cost more money, still not noticed?

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:07 AM

    Comment #24

    fet tomkins, sell them simmo and Gosling (pains me to say)

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  • davis_toons

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #25

    If he is a replacement for Rtylor or Perchy then be it . But if he is a replacement for Williamson, it could be a risk.

    He have not played much football in Westham, what chances does he have here, its a risk.

    Unless AP plays him like Obtan, until the BOOOssss start coming from the fans before stop playing him. That will even be worst for him.

    Could be a good buy to replace Rtylor or some other player.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:43 AM

    Comment #26

    Morning lads!

    …about Tomkins, so the logic is he should come here and be #4 CB – why wouldn’t he just stay at W’Ham and be that?

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  • davis_toons

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:43 AM

    Comment #27

    A good way will be a LOAN to Buy contract. In that way we can test drive him and pick out the qualities he can offer and the talent he have.

    A good defender will have some trails in them. Just like any other “England International”. (Stylor is a contender as well if he can stay fit)

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  • Sir Erec

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #28

    Davis_toon

    How could he be a replacement for Ryan Taylor or Perch? He doesn’t play the same position as either of them?

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  • AMEOBI

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:52 AM

    Comment #29

    Davis,

    What are you on replace Raylor or Perch? Did you watch Raylor last season? He’s a cracking player! Selling him will be a disaster

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 10, 2013 at 6:56 AM

    Comment #30

    Ryan taylor is a cracking player. ROFL

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  • Dagwoodz

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:09 AM

    Comment #31

    how many homegrown players does the club have to have to remain within FA guidelines again?

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  • BigBen

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:11 AM

    Comment #32

    Tomkins is ropey! Just a younger Williamson. Need a CB challenging Taylor & Collo for 1st team.

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  • AMEOBI

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    Comment #33

    Indian Magpie,

    What’s so funny? Have you played football before? You’ll know Raylor gives his all every game. Gets played out of position, naturally RM not LB.
    Some other blogger who doesn’t have a clue.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:17 AM

    Comment #34

    Ameobi

    I am not saying he is a bad player, just not a cracking player. Yes i have played footbll at the lowest level.

    Every football player should be able to play in ever position. That’s wht i think any way

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  • AMEOBI

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:21 AM

    Comment #35

    Indian,

    You’re a mile of there like seriously. As you can tell I rate him very highly.. Favourite player by a clear mile

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  • Ian Toon

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:22 AM

    Comment #36

    Jesper- Good Morning . When thinking of Tomkins it’s sometimes hard to forget his disasterous showing in a 5-0 trouncing of West Ham . Best in scoring a hat trick took him to the cleaners. He’s much improved and worth considering because he is versatile and better than a number of our current squad players like Williamson and Perch. Allardyce did not want him to participate in Olympic squad and he claimed he was not as fit as a result. He would be a good signing but only in addition to another named signing CB. He would get a lot more games and a chance to push his England claims . Also there is a mutual respect with Pardew. My brother was right in saying a while ago that he would not want to move north but feels he is not enamoured with Allardyce and would jump at the chance to move on.

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  • JackButler

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:25 AM

    Comment #37

    If Tomkins is the height of our ambition then we may as well all pack up now and go home.

    Toby Alderweireld, Sakho or someone of this standard is what we have been crying out for for years.

    We’ve wasted millions on millions in every other areas of the field but have constructed our defense on pitence for years with the same results.

    WE CAN NOT BLOODY DEFEND TO SAVE OUR LIVES

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:26 AM

    Comment #38

    Morning Ian…would think a kid like him with and International career infront of him would want to be more than #4 choice CB at the Toon 🙂

    …I know absolute nothing about him so I’ll yout word for it (remember you still owe me for my birthday) lol

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  • Ian Toon

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:27 AM

    Comment #39

    Davis- Every signing is a risk! You’ve got to back your judgement of a player. Tomkins would hit the ground running and @ £ 4 million maximum would be a good signing.

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  • Ian Toon

    Jan 10, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    Comment #40

    Jesper- There is the English premium. However if Allardyce wants Distin he will need to get Tomkins out of the door. My brother knows him and funnily enough often sees him in a local Costa coffee shop with Mark Noble. He’s a bit brash and cocky but we would soon sort him out. The major problem has been lack of defensive cover and he would be a big improvement on a number who have worn the shirt this season.

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