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Adam Campbell Sent Back To The U21 Squad

10:14 am, Friday, January 11th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 588 Comments

We had hoped that Adam Campbell would be given a chance in the first team before the end of the season, but that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon, as Adam has been sent back to the U21 Development squad, so he can get some games under his belt.

Newcastle United Training Session

Adam Campbell – sent back to get some games in Development squad

And Alan Pardew has explained that with Campbell part of the match day 18 man squad, the youngster has seen Alan maybe go ballistic at times, because of the very poor play of the Newcastle side over the last several weeks.

It seems that the manager wants to protect the 17 year-old, although he will have gained enormous experience of what goes on in a Premier League dressing room – well – especially when you continue to lose games.

This is what Pardew said about his top  England U17 star striker:

“I had Adam Campbell in my office as I’ve taken him with the first team to gain some experience and he has witnessed some tough times. He’s seen me not very happy, some of the players not very happy, a bit of frustration.”

“Some important information that has to be absorbed by players. He will gain massively from that, but he needs to play games. I need to lift the young players so if they do come back in they do a bit better.”

This is simply Alan Pardew doing what’s right for one of his top youngsters, and Adam will have seen some tough things being said in the dressing room, as we have lost far too many games over the last several weeks.

It’s all in the education of a young up-and-coming striker at Newcastle United.

We’d even be happy to see Adam go out on loan at some lower league club, to get some additional experience before the end of the season.

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588 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder
    Sources close to Coloccini have confirmed to the Chronicle that he wants to leave the club in the January window #NUFC

    It never rains

  • 2 G // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    Don’t mean to be too finicky Ed, but I believe Campbell celebrated his 18th the other day?

  • 3 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    sources close to is a good one that’s usually “im making this up”

  • 4 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    How many minutes of play has he had? 10 mins i remember of. Why put a kid with great ability back down and keep a plastic gangster, who has had his chance and disappointed. He should get his chance this season. Maybe a risk but Owen for pool/ Rooney for everton, Beckham, giggs etc all came good.

  • 5 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Well let’s be honest campbell doesn’t suit pardew’s long ball game.

    Talk about imploding. Pardew’s really playing a blinder with his tactics and stupid comments.

    Ba gone
    Captain Colo going?
    Benny previously unhappy
    Santon possibly going ?

    A united dressing room – yeah right. Morale seems to be on the floor right about now a la West ham and Southampton when he left.

    As someone said if Pardew can’t see the problems, how the hell is he the right man to solve them. His misplaced arrogance and stubborness is threatening to destroy and dismantle the best squad we’ve had in years

  • 6 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Is there anything concrete out there in the news sphere?

    …anything confirmed?

  • 7 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    ” i need to lift the young players ”

    Well stop saying they’re no good all the time.

  • 8 G // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    @ RH. “His misplaced arrogance and stubborness is threatening to destroy and dismantle the best squad we’ve had in years”

    Just playing devils advocate here, but didn’t people say similar things when Barton, Nolan etc got shipped out?

  • 9 Krul to be Kind // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    I don’t understand why this kid isn’t being fast tracked, he is allegedly the cream of the crop in the development squad and the last to get an opportunity, I think Pardupe needs to come out and explain, he seems to be the only academy player that hasn’t got any game time… If you’re good enough you’re old enough, simples!!!

  • 10 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    We cant let Colo go!! Must be a lot of unrest in dressing room. If Colo thought we were buyinv up quality players this window, he’d probably want to stay. Doesn’t bode good. Roll on 1st of Feb. Head is spinning with this crap!! :(x(

  • 11 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Krul…I honestly think Ginger should be shipped out on loan go gain some experience and confidence – that goes for the rest of the hopefully youngsters as well.

    …what we are doing to them only breed arrogance (as we all know arrogance is confidence’s evil twin). I think there is a reason why we are this poor this season (and no the reason is not lack of transfer activity)

  • 12 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Campbell is our best academy player….leagues ahead of sammy ameobi and ranger etc….not sure why he isn’t in. He is small and skinny but his game isn’t strength and never will be, it’s running in behind and putting the ball in the net.

    Rotonda

    I think recently pardew has been good with what he said about the kids…saying they aren’t good enough isn’t helpful, but saying they are not putting in effort and that is required to play for nufc is good….they need to hear that. He included senior players in that too so it was fair.

  • 13 big bob // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    our reserve side is shocking cant see any making it apart from maybe ferguson who needs to bulk up ameobi is a waste of space the brighton game them young players should have not stopped running all game but all looked so lazy and disinterested also senior players should have been lined up and signed 1st january now half way through month and still no forward by the time we get someone else in we would have dropped more points starting with norwich on saturday we are in a serious relegation battle and points are needed now

  • 14 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    lee ryder knows nowt. hes put this tweet out but its only what loads of others were saying last night. he knows as much as me or you about whats going on at nufc and that is what the brass want us to know.

  • 15 G // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Straight from Twatter:

    BBC Newcastle ?@bbcnewcastle

    BBC Newcastle understands reports #nufc skipper Fabricio Coloccini has put in in a transfer request are UNTRUE and he will play at Norwich.

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    big bob

    Campbell is so much better than ferguson…he will be a top striker if brought through right…another season of reserve football will send him backwards. playing in a low quality and intensity league doesn’t help.

    If campbell wont get a chance ahead of ranger (god knows why) send him to the best possible club we can get him to for the rest of the season.

  • 17 Krul to be Kind // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    I agree to a certain extent Jesper, our youth have been turfed in at the deep end and haven’t performed, I was very vocal at the start of the season about giving youth a chance (I’ve since wound my neck in on that though!) and it’s plain to see that all I’ve seen need more experience, I don’t think it’s strange at all that Bigi is further in his development than the rest with a season of championship under him and he is younger than the rest eg. Sameobi, Fergie, abeid, tavernier (who has flattered to deceive IMO) et al, now we know the aforementioned aren’t ready but no one had seen Campbell in a competitive game so how would par dupe know how he’d fair, he might just launch his top level career, I would personally like to see minutes on the pitch in black and white so the management make a sound and informed judgement… Not just throw him out on loan!

  • 18 blew // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    The talentless Reserves/U 21s are bottom of the league and the manager is not happy with a lack of progress most are making. Why then ruin Campbell by putting him in this environment? His best chance is to send him out on loan, to a club where kids develop, we cant bring players on. Throughout the club the coaches leave a lot to be desired and I have watched all levels, in despair.

  • 19 sirtoongospel // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    The best of our young players is Brad Inman. He is slightly older and is doing well out on loan. Campbell will probably follow suit in the Summer. We would all love to see him in and getting a shot, but you have to feel that the coaching staff know exactly where he is at.

  • 20 soundoid // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    BBC sports reporting that the Colo story is untrue and he will play at norwich.

  • 21 big bob // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    transfer sage

    i agree send these lads to lower league teams it will make them realise how lucky and comfortable they are and hopefully give them kick up the backside and make them work harder

  • 22 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    So it’s true then f*** sake. That’s all we need. I’m not buying the homesick bullshit like. Something has obviously happened. Broken promises no doubt.

  • 23 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    The problem is not that we have given the kids a run too early its that they are not good and hungry enough for it.

    Of all the players we have played from the reserves only fergie looks up for the fight (and vukic when fit), they make mistakes but that might improve with time.

    Bigi has been a stand out and is basically a first team squad player now, out of the reserve set up all together.

    Players like tav, abeid, sammy, etc are not good enough or dont try.

    Players like gosling and amalfitano are at the age where if they aren’t anywhere hear first team standard they never will be. Not seen amalfitano have a real chance but looks ok in games, he needs a start ahead of sammy.

  • 24 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Would like to hear a Colo interview just to confirm.

  • 25 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    g
    lol lee ryder could end up looking a complete tool. imagine we signed bong and the bbc are correct (id take their word over his) surely the chronny would have to get shot and get a decent journo in. wonder what his next tweet will be.

  • 26 Les Grossman // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    No smoke without fire here!

  • 27 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    big bob

    I say get them in the highest standard possible, prem league, championship ideally…but basically get them in a team where they have to work hard. Tell them if they dont work hard they have no future back at our club.

    Sirtoon

    You would think they know where they are with development but players like ranger and sammy start over campbell which to me is just wrong.

  • 28 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Krul…I wanted to keep a few of them back in the summer, but has also come to realize that probably non of them are ready (Bigi is the living proof of what Champ. football can do for a young kid on the rise)

    …if we don’t bring these kid though the right way we won’t see any Wilshere or Cleverley at this club – non what so ever.

    I am not sure Ginger is that great just yet (I am afraid it is just a matter of us wanting him to be because he’s a Geordie) I might be wrong ;)

  • 29 G // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    naptoon, I usually disregard the Chronicle sport altogether. I have done so since Alan Oliver / John Gibson. By the looks of things Ryder isn’t any better.

  • 30 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    i know im in minority but i quite like ranger as a player cant hit abarn door but pacey strong and always looks like hes giving 100% to me when he plays. loved it when he gave sammy rock all at brighton id been doing same thru the telly.

  • 31 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    We dont seem to produce players like campbell through our youth squad, small and fast with eye for goal. Sammy, vuckic are tall gangly and slow. Vukic hasn’t impressed me at all, sammy has shown touches of class but not enough, seems bored like it’s a chore rather than a privilege. Campbell does seem like a young Owen.

  • 32 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    I think the problem with the youngsters is that they have been mismanaged, Mashley knowing nothing about football thought he had a generation of kids as AF did with Beckham and co and wouldn’t listen to the football people who probably suggested they all needed to go out on loan.

  • 33 Les Grossman // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    naptoon
    agree!!
    He done more in 20 mins or so than Sammi has done in 8 games.

    How anybody can rate Sammi Ameobi as a serious EPL Player………i do not go with he’s young he’ll get better….NO he wont, he’s 21 and should be improving by the game….hes going backwards!

  • 34 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    g

    i wouldn’t count barton and nolan as our best squad
    they were / are aging mercenaries

  • 35 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    The press and the speculation is totally pissing me off.
    Chronicle are great at making stories out of nowt.
    Newcastle/Colocinni must make a statement and let the fans know the score. Not good for teams morale which won’t be the best at the moment.

    I am also sure some of the London Manchester hacks work for teams on their patch stirring the shit about the toon causing unrest trying to get players to move to their club

  • 36 Les Grossman // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    JFA
    but the only clubs showing interest in them are three divisions below.
    Says it all!!!

    If MA thinks he had a bunch of potetial stars he has been fed duff info by his coaches and therefore, get rid of them also!!!!

  • 37 G // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    @34. I wasn’t suggesting they were either, as I said, was just giving an example of some of the comments on here round that time. Seems to be a bit like that now.

  • 38 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    i dont rate sammy either tho havent seen loads of reserves when he was supposedly pulling up trees.

  • 39 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    I like vukic but until he is fit for a good rubber won’t be able to tell what he can do.

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    JFA…I think AP wanted the kids to stay (he was very vocal about it)

  • 41 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    The bbc have asked the club about it & the club have denied it probably. I would guess we’ll hear more after the game tomorrow. I actually believe Lee Ryder on this one.

  • 42 big bob // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    ranger showed everything that is wrong with our development squad when he went down in the corner after atackle by the brighton defender and just turned and sat on floor and stared at the ref no hunger no desire no passion

  • 43 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    williamsonsuks

    as I say campbell doesn’t fit the pardew long ball rubbish. pardew like big physical players like harewood, carroll and shola. It’s tragic.

    before ashley creates a fund for new players he needs to have a modern thinking progressive, foreign manager, not a mourinho wannabe with no record to back it up. pardew’s hilarious quote ” I am a winner ” and his closing of open training sessions as if other teams don’t know his one tactic are pathetic!

  • 44 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    big bob that was sammi

  • 45 Krul to be Kind // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    I don’t want him in because he’s a Geordie, I want to see someone with electric pace up top, we haven’t had an explosive strikers since Mickey Quinn! Lol, in all serious though Jesper, you make some valid points

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Jesper,
    That’s because we have one of the most thread bare squads in the league, he was also very vocal about AC not being sold and we needed four first team players in the summer, also pretty vocal about a replacement for RTaylor until Dirk Dastardly slapped him down.

  • 47 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    @nap it wa ranger i remember shouting at him

  • 48 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Rotonda

    Any ‘long ball’ manager worth his salt should surely know that long balls are much more effective the higher up the pitch your striker are. So if you can push the defence back you can have your target men near the box so the flick ons/knock downs are in a more dangerous area than 40 yards from goal.

    Therefore a fast lad up top like campbell would mean that defences either stay high to stop the long ball and therefore allow room in behind for the quick lad. Or drop deep to stop the quick lad but then become more vulnerable to the long ball.

  • 49 Indian Magpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder
    Fabricio Coloccini wants to quit NUFC immediately http://dlvr.it/2myvMx #NUFC
    Expand

  • 50 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    JFA…I am pretty sure anyone in there right mind would have sold AC for £35M (and I also think no one in there right mind would bid that high)

    …you know we don’t agree on the transfer subject so I am not even going to go there. AP is a big boy and he can stand up for him self just find.

    He went public with the statement that he as the manager of NUFC thought our squad was good enough for the goals they had set (it doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have like another player or two)

    Most the things you say are very subjective and your take on it (it is very difficult at times to wrap my arms around) It is clearly how you feel and I respect that but it doesn’t make it so!

  • 51 Krul to be Kind // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Liverpool sniffing around moussa sow 9m being bandied about, only problem is he too is Senegalese but is Cisse’s preferred partner, a steal at that price, can play the withdrawn role and can be a beast of a man, also he would know the dream boats well from his time at Lille

  • 52 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Krul…Fenerbahçe acquired Moussa Sow for €10 million just last year :)

  • 53 Markaccus // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Chronicle are reporting the colo thing as “the chronicle understands” so not definite. Supposedly personal matters. We’re doomed if its true.

  • 54 Krul to be Kind // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Are they not struggling financially though Jesper, 9m pounds would be a very small profit for them!

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Jesper,
    I’m not saying that it was wrong to sell Carroll, just pointing out that what Pards says and what Mashley does are two completely different entities.

  • 56 nimo // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    if collo wants to spend his last days of his playing with his family fair play to kid.. wish he would wait till end of season like..

  • 57 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Krul…most admit I don’t really know anything about that (maybe your right)

    …always thought those Turkey clubs were damn rich :) lol

  • 58 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    *your = you’re

  • 59 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/whats-gone-wrong-at-newcastle-united-8447037.html

    quotes around Collo .. “a personal matter” ..

  • 60 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    JFA…you might be right about that.

    At times it seems what AP says and what he does is two entirely different things as well :) (maybe those two should be better at communicating with each other) lol

  • 61 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    You can’t keep a player if he has major personal reasons to leave .. ie his wife .. which is rumoured to be the cause .. shame as he is an excellent player when his head is right..

  • 62 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Jail

    It’s difficult to say anything about transfers before they are done….do you think Ashley or Pards expected liverpool to actually offer 35mil up front for carroll…all deals are possible if the money is there, so it’s silly for anyone to rule anything out.

  • 63 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    new CB’s then .. nightmare .. hope Collo can stay until the summer as he can’t let us down now as well ..

  • 64 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    I wonder what the thing with Pardew was about ..

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    I would say no club wants to keep an unhappy player, but most clubs doesn’t want to suffer financially just because a player is unhappy.

    …and what is this sudden unhappiness about? (heard some rumors, but I want to hear it from the man himself)

  • 66 spennymoor-mag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    I find it hard to believe that ranger and sammy stay in senior squad over Campbell. I remember reading that Chelsea,man city,man utd and even Real Madrid scouts were watching him! Wouldn’t surprise me if the lad decides to move on if we don’t loan him out. Another shocker by pardew!!!

  • 67 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Sween

    Any idea of the personal problem wit his wife? illness or just homesick?

    If it’s the latter I think it’s fair to ask him to stay until the end of the season. If it’s the first and she wants to be home with family then that’s very understandable to move now.

  • 68 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    smoke and mirrors now watch the panic set in @ the top major errors about to happen and more to follow ashley get out

  • 69 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Transfer Sage .. just rumours that his wife went back to Argentina and obviously he wants to go back there to .. note its just rumours

  • 70 yorkymag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Lost for words
    This is simply mad
    Campbell is a future England number 9
    Pardew has lost the plot anyway why make an issue of it by saying anything at all if he was going to play in the u 21 just let it happen
    Pardew is imploding

  • 71 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    TS…beddersmag said something about Colo not being able to keep his pants up and the wife leaving (now I am only paraphrasing :))

    …if that is only remotely true, then he can pay for his only transfer back home :) lol

  • 72 spennymoor-mag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Collocini…. “Alan I’m getting sick of your shitty management skills,for that reason I’m out”

  • 73 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    yorkymag .. pardew should have played him in the FA Cup ..

  • 74 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    name change @ st james = emmerdale pk

  • 75 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Anyway

    If Colo leaves he needs to be replaced with a proven CB. I know it goes against everything at the club but we should go for Hangaland. Be the perfect player and relatively cheap with 6 months left on his deal. Even if we just get 18months/2years out of him.

    Look at man utd (giggs, scholes, rio)
    chelsea (terry, lampard, cole)
    liverpool (gerrard)
    spurs (parker, defoe)
    man city (barry, lescott)

    These all have players who are a around 30 or older, who have played a lot of season in the prem and whilst they may not be at their best they offer a lot to the team in terms of experience.

    We currently do not have many, if any players with a lot of prem experience, who understand the league and know how to fight back when things are tough. We lost that in nolan and barton, technically not the best but mentally strong.

  • 76 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    if Collo is aware we need a proven leader CB in .. Alderwield or something .. somebody who talks to the rest of the Defence .. these defenders don’t come cheap but if he has to have an impact it needs to be an experienced player.. not a future star

  • 77 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    “aware” – should be “away”

  • 78 geoff777 // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    If Campbell isn´t with the first team squad.
    That means Cisse will be the lone striker and Ranger the only forward on the bench.

    Another crazy decision by Pardew.
    What if Cisse pulls up during the warm-up?

  • 79 yorkymag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    66
    You are spot on
    I have heard that man utd see Campbell as a possible target a little like Rooney from Everton ,I would not be surprised to see them make a move .
    Let’s face it you could hardly blame the kid considering the treatment from parsnip

  • 80 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    even the comedy club. im sick of all these mismanagements

  • 81 Spreadthetoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Quick note…..Collo story not going away. Similar to Ba. Either the player makes a statement quickly….or there is some truth to it…..as silence speaks consent.
    If the latter, which I think may be the case then we are in real shlte! There could be a domino effect…..just wtf have u been saying in the dressing room Pardew?!!! Collo’s our captain and even he don’t look up to the fight in recent times!

  • 82 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Transfer Sage .. agreed on Hangeland or Olsson from West brom would be good ..

  • 83 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Now I am not 100% convinced on Pardew this year, I have stressed I would seriously assess his position in the summer if I was Ashley….but these problems may not be his doing.

    They may well be, he has history (southampton – only one side of the story though) but lets not all start slating him before the facts are out.

  • 84 yorkymag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Soread
    You are right there is a lot in this
    Don’t know how true but there are a lot of rummors about the exchange in the dressing room seems to have been much more angry than first thought

  • 85 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    sweendog

    if you have a team of only kids there will be nobody for them to learn off and they will never reach their potential.

    Quite right in saying olsson too…we need an experienced, cool head, especially at the back

  • 86 yorkymag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Sorry spread

  • 87 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    at least someone with pace .. even distin would be good if Collo goes .. as a temp stop gap ..

  • 88 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    we need both Hangeland and Olsson

  • 89 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    just starting to sink in ..

    Top striker away .. maybe CB .. Defensive midfielder away at ACON .. as Alan Hanson etc say .. the spine is the most important part of the team .. it doesn’t bode well for us ..

  • 90 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    I’d take one of hangalan and olsson and then go for yanga-mbiwa or somebody of that ilk

  • 91 spennymoor-mag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    It’s alright mentioning the likes of ollson and hangeland but why would they want to come to us when they probably no that pardew is a shit head

  • 92 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Colo ducking out of the fight is personal reasons probably very little to do with Pards by all accounts.

    Good riddance if he doesn’t want to be here see ya later just hope we get a quality replacement with a tongue in his mouth

  • 93 yorkymag // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Sweendog
    Cheer up
    Taylor back,cabaye back ,debucey in Cisse playing in the right place
    Benny soon to return

    Unfortunately one ….. Of a manager remains

  • 94 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    @wwycd even willo is more vocal

  • 95 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    ssn reporting colo NOT asked for transfer nd big bob think it was sammi 1 st half brightons right back posistion he did it a few times commentators were going on about it and i was shouing at him but i do vaguely remem ranger doing it in last few secs.

  • 96 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    @nap aye sammy did it but th camera was zoomed right on ranger when he did it

  • 97 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    …so how are we feeling about the game tomorrow?

  • 98 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    PPB
    Have said for awhile now he’s not a good captain. Good player but if he wants out, the Argie club can cough up the money he’s worth and we get a replacement with some calibre then c ya Colo

  • 99 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    jesp
    aprehensive shitting myself we r in trouble if we lose. id take a draw

  • 100 lewytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    poor debuchy signs for a ‘european team’ and in the short time hes been here we’ve lost our top scorer, lost both games, pardew supposedly resigned, and now captain could be leaving

  • 101 numba9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Mbiwya is the only one out there good enough to replace colo

  • 102 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    naptoon…I am not feeling so good myself (I don’t think it is something I ate ;))

  • 103 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    lewy
    pards resigned? ive missed that rumour.

  • 104 lewytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    apparently after Brighton game pardew was so annoyed and dissapointed he quit because he thought the players weren’t playing for him and he had unfair criticism, but then ashley talked him round

  • 105 lewytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    i highly doubt it is true though

  • 106 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    maybe pards has a point if theres any truth in colo rumour and maybe players declaring themselves unfit with minor niggles.

  • 107 lewytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    he could be right, especially if ben arfas been out all this time for a ‘minor niggle’

  • 108 bzak12 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Sad if Colo has to go we cannot keep unhappy players as we are in a real dogfight. However he cannot go for free if he wants to return home we must hold onto his registration.

  • 109 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    well that stinks of pi55 poor man management

  • 110 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    dont think many managers resign nowadays just wait to be sacked for payoff

  • 111 lewytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    the other rumour is that if pardew is sacked, he gets a one year pay off. a years salary is apparently equivalent to the money he owes ashley…

    once again probably not true

  • 112 nightfa11 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    ffs…get this fcuker pardew out already..hes ruining our players, our club.. of course noone delivers cos noone wants to play his retarded hoof ball tactcis..

    colo hed a go at pardew in the dressing ropom cos of playing style, & pardew said..its nothing really..just a stupid little thing..?! wtf is that?! it will be stupid little thing when our best players start putting in transfer requests.. with pardew on board we will have new starting 11 every 2 years.. ffs..

  • 113 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    if we got a decent replacement in first got the right offer and colo handed in transfer request id sell. 5 mill nd someone like lescott

  • 114 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    ashley must realise he has two options a whole load of new players or new manager that can motivate . i myself would do both .or he could just naff off

  • 115 lewytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    i wouldnt want pardew sacked, well not yet, but its funny how he suppsoedly lost the players at west ham and southampton.

    if he had no previous stories of losing players id believe it was bad luck but when its recurring problem it could be him

  • 116 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Collocini isn’t a bairn. I sympathise with whatever his turmoil is bit he has to knuckle down and get on with his job for which he is handsomely paid.
    I’m sure there is a rule where a player over a certain age can buy
    out his contract, perhaps this is what he is trying to do.
    It’ll be very shabby of him to do one after all the support he has been given from the club and especially the fans.

  • 117 jayphoto // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Imagine colo is down to personal issues as if hed just fallen out with pardew then hed be bandied about all over europe whereas all the rumours state he wants to move to argentina.
    Also, whats with all this long ball crap? Some of you must not be watching the games because against qpr, man city, man utf, arsenal and everton we played on the deck! Not saying we played well but we werent hoofing it! In fact, id say everton were the biggest long ball team ive seen this year yet many of you would take moyes whos main game plan is hoof to fellaini and jelavic and play off the scraps

  • 118 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    They’re not going to admit the Colo thing the day before a game like. It would be a full disaster if true. I dont think they’re capable of getting one centre back in the door, never mind two centre backs.

  • 119 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    People need to keep calm on this issue.

    -Colo’s agent dismissed the rumor.
    -the club has dismissed he rumor

    The only side making noises he want to leave are the club he is after….they will obviously say that.

    Everyone is jumping on all little rumors without looking at all the evidence, people blaming pardew when we don’t have any solid info on that.

    Lets all wait and see what happens tomorrow. We will be able to tell by two things. The first is if colo plays and the second is how much commitment is there.

    Lets not all panic before we see all the details.

  • 120 WesJameson // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    This stinks of the whole Shearer episode FFS

    Wake up Percy you fool…..i’m shocked at this article….it’s actually pathetic

  • 121 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    football is a game of spontaneous actions the thing is we must be getting coached out of this

  • 122 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    novo
    agree 100%
    anyway ssn and bbc report it ts not true ryder and some southern journos say it is. place ya bets.
    we need a statement direct off colo (not agent or club) hes our captain he needs to stand up.

  • 123 nightfa11 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    jayphoto

    if colod move to a club in europe..considering his age, he wouldnt be a starter…parhaps for a season..but no more..

  • 124 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Agree with that Jay.

  • 125 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    hey lets just wait and see (those who stand still go backwards)

  • 126 WesJameson // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    @ jayphoto // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    I agree 100% mate, the thing i like about Everton…is their spirit, and the way the play to their strengths

    No one hides in that team

  • 127 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    If colo does leave i think its a bit premature to blame the manager! He’s always talked about his dad being a huge influence on his life and football and think if a chance has arisen to work with him he wants to take it, think its purely family reasons like
    No doubt a few will have there pardew voodoo dolls out but for me i reckon this has little to do with him and more about colo wanting to go home
    IF he does go i’d be disappointed and lose some respect for the lad but no player is irreplaceable

  • 128 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    jay

    Up to the wigan game we had the highest % on long balls played in the league.

    That was with ben arfa, cabaye and anita all in the team for a large part of those previous games so no reason to play that way.

    After that we have played better. I hope thats a case of Pardew learning and not players having enough and doing their own thing.

    Everton are very good….they have a lot of great build up play with quite technical players like baines and pienaar (brilliant to watch their intricate passing) and players in the middle like osman who dribble and play good passes.

    Yes they go long to fellaini sometimes but it work for them, we were going long and it wasn’t working. Also everton had many outlets not just a long ball, they passed well too down either side.

    I’m reserving judgement until the end of the year, we certainly have a team that has passed more in recent games, hopefully that will continue and improve with our top players back.

  • 129 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Bbc seem to have changed there tune …

    BBC Sport ?@BBCSport
    Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini informs club he wishes to leave in the January transfer window for personal reasons #nufc #bbcsportsday

  • 130 Macas // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    BBC Sport’s Ben Smith with alarming news for Newcastle fans: “Newcastle United captain Fabricio Coloccini has informed that club that wishes to leave in the January transfer window for personal reasons. While the 30-year-old has stopped short of handing in a formal transfer request, a crisis in his personal life has prompted him to tell manager Alan Pardew that he no longer feels he can stay on Tyneside.”

  • 131 Macas // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    More from BBC Sport’s Ben Smith regarding the Coloccini situation at St James’ Park: “Further talks are planned in the coming days with Newcastle resolved to attempt to do all they can to persuade the Argentina international change his mind.

    “But privately, club officials fear that Coloccini has already set his heart on returning home to Argentina. Coloccini is the best paid player at St James’ Park on £60,000 per week and has become one of the club’s most dependable and popular players in recent seasons.”

  • 132 HullMag6 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Pards Collo & wife? Has the silver fox been upto his rumoured old tricks?

    I have to agree that as a cb collo isn’t vocal enough even as captain. Id give the band to saylor if he could stay fit.

    Replacement spine: Saylor, Cabs & Cisse.

    If Collo did go then you’d have to look at Alderweild, Mbiwa, Sakho and possibly (overpriced and english) Micah Richards?

    Its a big if though or is it mischief makers trying to tip the balance.

  • 133 gstadt // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Anyone know what the ‘personal reasons’ are for Collo wanting to leave? Has he fallen out with his missus?

  • 134 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    belfast
    aagh.
    bbc newcastle reported it untrue earlier. fekking nightmare.

  • 135 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    john tudor

    I dont want the club to stand still, I want them to be proactive in dealing with every issue.

    I am just speaking as fans, lets not presume the worst before we know whats going on.

  • 136 WesJameson // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Oh God, you lads haven’t seen that pr!ck Giggs around Newcastle, have you?

  • 137 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Aint that a kick in the head

  • 138 rainrix // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    So many different messages being banded about. The club/pards need to release a statement asap to nip all of these rumours and speculation in the bud, once a firm line is drawn under it all the club can concentrate on other things

  • 139 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    if he wants to go he can hand in a transfer request and the other club can pay his worth hes dropping us rite in the shite.

  • 140 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Transfer request & asking to leave is more or less the same thing in my book lol. If he really wants to leave you have to let him go.

  • 141 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Well lets hope the club act on this.

    If Colo is to leave and can’t be persuaded to finish the season then we need to make sure than we have 2CBs come in, at least one with a lot of experience at quality, around the age 27-30…somebody who has years in the game.

    The second must be a very good player too like yanga-mbiawa or alderwerield

  • 142 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    not financially its not 10% of fee without transfer request.

  • 143 Spreadthetoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    “Defeat against Martin Jol’s side was the ninth time in 11 games that Newcastle had not won. Words were said, forthright opinions were exchanged between senior players as to why the club were failing and who was not pulling their weight.”
    That’s a quote from the independent. Other things about fractions between the Spanish and French players were rumoured.
    This whole stuff about Collo’s “personal reasons” is spin directly from Mike Ashley and nothing to do with Collo. Collo ain’t said nought in the press which means that there’s a much much bigger problem at SJP. I really think that AP may have lost the dressing room, he’s got form for it and I think somewhere between getting 2 awards from PFA and LMA, he’s become arrogant and lost the will to listen to the dressing room….perhaps. We’ll all see how the player play tomorrow…..nothing less than 110% from them all IMO……if it’s half hearted then I think the blame will be aimed towards AP.

  • 144 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    the shot was aimed @ashley he must realise i know he reads this blog

  • 145 NUFCWill1986 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    R.e Coloccini – In such short careers in the limelight, some decisions footballers make baffle me.

  • 146 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    I know for a fact his wife has not managed to settle and has always wanted to move back home but would have moved to spain when there was interest from a club there a year or so ago. Anything but stay here apparently. Possibly she has dug her heels in? But if Colo has tired of the clubs strategy and Pardews management, maybe he has decided enough is enough. Strange that so much could happen only 1 year into a contract he seemed more than happy to take on, and even stranger in this window, it must be urgent (if true) whatever the matter is.

  • 147 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    belfast

    It means the same put is slightly different. If a transfer request is handed in the player gives up his right to certain loyalty bonuses etc.

  • 148 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Ah right didn’t no that naptoon.

    Apparently he’s adamant he’s leaving. If that’s the case there’s f*** all we can do about it.

  • 149 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Change of subject. Watching the cricket and its mad how the Indians go mental when they’re team score a four or six and then it turns into the Emirates when England take a wicket.

  • 150 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Is lamearse our PR man? Know he talks shit, but no statements whatsoever. Something is definitely messed up behind the seens!!

  • 151 Spreadthetoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    TADS
    If its pure “personal reasons” then I do not think MA will just let Collo go unless his market value is realized…..somewhere between £10-15m IMO. Cannot see San Lorenzo being able to afford that though.

  • 152 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    *scenes

  • 153 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    we will know 2moz one way or other we cant play him if true.

  • 154 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    oops he ll be out with a sore digit

  • 155 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    It’s strange that he signed a new long term deal if his wife was so unhappy Tsunki. I would guess there’s probably other reasons for wanting out too.

  • 156 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    spreadthetoon
    10-15 i think ure being optomistic. i rekon 5-8 either way they can pay his worth.

  • 157 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Well maybe money isn’t making him happy now.

    He might be at the stage in his career where he is willing to take a wage cut to go play back at home where he will be happier.

    Just because he is on 60k a week doesn’t mean he can’t get depressed.

  • 158 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    …but the cold truth is Colo had a contract and marked value whether he likes it ir not!

    *Does he expect us to just release him of his contract and loose out on our money? He’ll have to stay and suck it up like any other grown up with responsibilities! That is what we do.

  • 159 Spreadthetoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Naptoon
    Collo was one of the best players in the EPL last season…..you don’t loose that form overnight!
    We all know that AP and Collo have exchanged words….FACT. Why? Cos AP told us.
    IF the muppet has lost the dressing room….. MA will hold onto the mgr……and we will see an exodus from NUFC! FFS!

  • 160 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Colo’s in the squad tomorrow apparently. So the club will say nowt about it until after the game. This story has been knocking around now for the last week or so & we still haven’t signed a centre back. It’s a piss take.

  • 161 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Tsunki: I heard the exact opposite was the case. This was last year when Liverpool where sniffing around. I was told he was offered more money to go to Liverpool but his lass refused to go as the family were happy and settled in the area. I was told he would not be leaving and this was the eventual outcome.

  • 162 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    From NUFC.COM –
    Update from the BBC, Friday:

    Newcastle United captain Fabricio Coloccini has informed that club that wishes to leave in the January transfer window for personal reasons.

    “While the 30-year-old has stopped short of handing in a formal transfer request, a crisis in his personal life has prompted him to tell manager Alan Pardew that he no longer feels he can stay on Tyneside.”

    Ah. I think I know what it is, and if it is that then there is nobody to blame. I am not going to go all ITK but I think I know of a situation and I will spill if and when he definitely confirms he is going.

  • 163 Macas // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    He’s a top professional and we have no decent cover so he will play tomorrow, but he will be pushing for a move by the end of the window by the sounds of it

  • 164 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    jesp
    bang on
    someone made a valid point earlier tho colo has said nowt he didnt mention dressing room row personal probs or nowt the brass could be manipulating all of this.

  • 165 Dude // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    A lot of hysterical people on this blog. I’m in the give Pardew more time camp. He did very well last year and this could be a blip, as long as he’s seen to learn from it I am not too concerned. I don’t think he or any manager will have much say on transfer budgets so changing manager won’t lead to more spending. On Coloccini I find it sad and somewhat strange. There’s clearly more to this than meets they eye. I assume NUFC will ultimately have to accept a fee and let him go, probably this window. I don’t think we will go down, but unless good decisions start being taken soon, I fear it will be very, very clsoe.

  • 166 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    tsunki

    why can’t you tell us now…thats a cliffhanger haha

    Jesper

    Yes he signed a contract so he should honour it, we shouldn’t suffer as he wants to leave. But in his defence he is in a profession where you are tied down to a long contract…we are not in that situation as often, most of us only need a months notice to leave work (not all i appreciate that).

    It’s also a “job” where if your head isn’t in it you can ruin the whole team. More so at CB than probably anywhere else to. A mistake from a striker and nothing changes A mistake from a CB and you can concede.

  • 167 mattnufc // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Don’t think we’ll sell him unless a decent offer comes in.

  • 168 sweendog // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Transfer Sage .. have they both dismissed the rumour, and was there quotes?
    If so then thats that I hope..

  • 169 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    If we sell Colo, I would hope it would be for 5m or more.

    This would realistically pay the majority of a decent replacement for I would imagine between 5m-10m.

    It is important to note a new replacement may not offer the same standard of defensive capability on his arrival. Given some players need time to adjust to English football.

    Enrqiue was a prime example, seriously looked very average, possibly below average early on when he came to us. It was only the final 2 seasons he became a key player. The Championship benefited him.

    If we lose Colocinni we need Alderweirld, Mbiwa and Douglas or atleast 2 of the to replace him.

    Douglas would be approx £2m given he will be a free transfer in the summer. Alderweirld and Mbiwa in the region of 7m-10m each.

    We need 2 centre defenders if we lose one. I would imagine this Bong player is on his way in to cover LB, Santon could be used as cover for right back if needed. Then you have the versatility of Anita, Jonas, Perch for further cover.

  • 170 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    As for having words with Pardew, think of it this way, how many of us lose our rag with random people when we have something really bothering us in our personal life. A Pro footballer doesnt throw away a lucrative contract to play for what will undoubtedly be a lesser team for less money etc unless there is an overriding reason, one that trumps money. And that would not include a barney with the gaffer, which I am sure all players enjoy from time to time, especially captains. I know for a fact Colo was very proud to be Newcastle Captain, in fact it was the highest ranking reason for him to stay at the club believe it if you will.

  • 171 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Maptoon: Collocini may not have said anything directly however the rumours about him wanting to leave started in Argentina and his father was the agitator. Therefore I would say that Collocini has made his feelings known without directly speaking to the press himself.
    I do not believe for one moment that the club are trying to manipulate this. Why would they?

  • 172 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    sweendog

    it was a quote from agent dismissing it, just a short sentence though, not a long winded explanation so might have just been to shut the reporter up.

    can’t remember where I saw it.

  • 173 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    So it looks like it will be two out and one in. This is suicidal transfer business

  • 174 check the toastie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Sure if it is a ‘personel’ problem Collo will do his best until we find a replacement CB, thats defo another 18 months at the club then.

    He cant be that sick of playing next to Willo.

    The skipper has been a little off colour this year, his anger at Suarez just wasnt like him, also has been chewing refs and the like, clearly not a happy bunny.

    Its a shame all this.

    Debuchy must love his new club. :)

  • 175 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Sage – its an ITK thing – you of all people ha ha ha. :)

    I must stress that I do not have inside knowledge of this one whether it is true or not.

    BUT – If it is what I think it is, he will take a wage cut and go for a modest fee, possibly on terms between the two clubs. I really hope this is not true though.

  • 176 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    According to SkySports they ‘understand’ that Colo has not handed in any formal transfer request.

    Sounds like he will stay, hopefully he does we need him!

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8390342/Newcastle-United-captain-Fabricio-Coloccini-has-not-handed-in-a-transfer-request

  • 177 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    spreadthetoon
    hes been 1 of our best players last 2 years shite this season shite the season we went down and decent in championship. we paid 10 mill for him at 25 26 i cant see anyone paying 10 mill for him now at 30 31.
    if nufc were buying not selling the regime would value him at about $2.50 pence.

  • 178 mattnufc // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    He probably hasn’t handed in a request to keep his perks.

  • 179 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Tsunki –

    Look I am not saying your a IN THE KNOW.

    But simply implying you know something then not say it was pointless and its childish. If you knew, you would simply state.

    End of story.

  • 180 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    naptoon…that’s true – guess we will know sooner rather than later what’ really going on.

  • 181 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Well Tsunki you broke this story so the buck stops with you !! I’m away to think of conspiracy theories. I’ll be back later with the results. ;)

  • 182 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    novo
    didnt say they were just pointing out it could be.

  • 183 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Colo probably said, I cant keep covering for dumbass, (Williamson) he makes me look shit. Buy up or i’m off.

  • 184 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    very possibly williamsonsuks.

  • 185 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Mattnufc -

    If he wanted to leave he would hand a request in. Its only sensible or the club would take the flak.

    Seriously guys everyone just thinks of the negative!

    “Remy is not leaving” – We are not getting him.

    “Colo is not leaving” – That means he is away.

    I mean its all doom and gloom!

    I am confident Newcastle will stay up this season and even match my pre season prediction approx 9th – 12th, arguably closer to the 12th but I never expected a repeat of last season!

    I predicted 49 points at the start of the season, I was slated for it! Well on my predictions we will end up with 42 points now.

    We will only win 5 matches from now until end of season. Reading (H) Southampton (H) Stoke (H) Fulham (H) Sunderland (H) and a few draws to make up the 42 points. Norwich, Villa, Swansea, Wigan, West Brom, QPR, West Ham.

    That was my prediction at the start of the season, I think if offered over 3/4 of the NUFC fan base would take 42 points now, as it pretty much guarantees PL football I would think 36 points would be enough this season.

  • 186 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Tsunki. You’re right a player would not chose to leave a club because of a row with the manager. Did Pardew drop him? No. Fine him? No.
    If the player was transfer listed that would be a different matter, again this did not happen.
    Whatever Collo’s reason is, it has nowt to do with his relationship with Pardew.

  • 187 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    pawl250 – I didnt read anything about you implying anything so what are you upset about? Sorry if you dont like me mentioning something. Actually no I’m not.

    I will say no more on it until I see it pan out ok?

    But I will spill every last bean if and when he does get on the plane, just so you know I am not talking cr@p.

  • 188 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    TS…my problem is not him wanting to leave but the manner of it.

    …if he wants to leave for personal reasons and he wants to return back home even though he had 4 years left of his country is leaves not much to bargain with.

    What does he expect NUFC to do. San Lorenzo cannot pay his marked value (the wages are not NUFC’s concern); maybe another interested club could, but he wants to go home. So what do you think is reasonable?

  • 189 Tom4Nufc // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Hi Guys,

    I don’t know if you’ve seen this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20985928

    Looks like it’s in the balance as to whether he will stay- If he goes then it has to be for the right price which San Lorenzo are not going to pay as they don’t have the budget.

    I can’t see how we can afford to lose him though equally if he genuinely has had a personal crisis then I feel it would be wrong to keep him here against his will.

    I just think we should allow him to return to Argentina on unpaid leave for a few weeks so he can sort himself out- As he is invaluable to the team.

    Thoughs?

  • 190 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    has this argie club got anyone we cud have off them a 16 year old messi for example.

  • 191 geoff777 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    I guess we have to sell to an Argentinian club or release him.
    Either way we won’t see much of a fee.

    Family comes first.
    Sorry to see him go but there is no point in forcing a player to see out his contract if he is deeply unhappy.

    I hope he can sort his life out.
    Cheers Colo.

  • 192 Tom4Nufc // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    My mistake for the typo!

    Meant thoughts?!*

  • 193 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Lads – Dont get on to me about this but I really believe that if this is true it has absolutely nothing to do with Pardew, the club or even football itself.

    I think it would be a good idea for us to hold counsel on speculating why he is going, we may end up tarring a loyal servant of NUFC with a very big brush for no reason. Loads of Twitrons are saying he should be loyal, see out his contract, traitor even and this is as far away from his personality as I could imagine.

  • 194 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    *country = contract :-)

  • 195 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Nap. I know you said they could be. I’m saying it is very unlikely they have. There is only one party trying to manipulate a situation and it is the Collocini camp.
    Newcastle have nothing to gain from this.

  • 196 nufcusa // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Sadly when u buy foreign players this day always comes. It just happens at various stages in their tenure.

    Captains and managers have words all the time. I coach at a high enough lev and I know my captain is very vocal.

    Fallings out occur a lot and those suggesting a loss of the dressing room may or may not be correct. One thing is for sure if we lose with minimal effort and application tomorrow then do we know something is wrong?? Not necessarily as that will once agin be determined by what team we field.

    The fact is there are so many moving parts to a football club not everything can be rosy at 1 time.

    Ba’s situation is done. Good thing for all.

    Colo situation is a big blip but its clear fir all to see something is wrong as he has been poor all season. The alleged discretion with Pardew was not a catalyst for poor form so suggest their is a long term issue.

    Cisse not scoring (media driven issue) will now play central and has scored 2 in 3 against Manu arsenal and Everton!! He must be locking his lips at next few games.

    Injuries – well documented. Players returning and club have admitted failures of the summer. That’s progress.

    Current window – international fb signed with more to follow. Who knows who? Personally sissoko seems logical, a loan for Lescott and a purchase of Tompkins or other younger player like Williams of boro. Add in a striker and we would be on track.

  • 197 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Tsunki – I never make statements like

    “I know the reason, but wont reveal until …. ”

    Fact is the reason will almost certainly be out and about by the time you “spill the beans” simply using the same reason and be like “I knew it was ….” whatever it was.

    If you knew you would say now, and you have nothing to lose by not saying now. Its not like you are damaging your relationship to him, or Pardew or whoever you claim to be friends with.

    The real reason behind all this secretive malarky is you simply do not know and want to be seen as special.

    *Sniff* *Sniff* Whats that? *Sniff* That smell? ….. Is it cow Sh!t, Is it dog sh!t, nooooo its BULL….. you know the rest!

    Have a nice day! And sorry for coming across as aggressive and direct I just dont see the logic of you coming on here and spouting I know this or that. I will only tell if this or that.

    I could have done the same thing about Remy now I know this but I wont tell you until he signs. What does it gain me? NOTHING.

  • 198 geoff777 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    If he leaves for family reasons, most fans will accept that this is something that he HAS to do.

    He’s been a great CB (after the first season) and captain.
    Anyone calling him a traitor is a fool.

  • 199 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    novo i agree we stand to gain nowt imo opinion colo as our captain needs to speak not agents dads club spokesman or pards.

  • 200 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Well, I think its pretty obvious he wants away. Id prefer if he stayed until the end of the season, but if its a personal crisis, Then he has to go.

    Sounds to be an excuse like, with his dad saying he was looking for a “nice” way to leave us only a week ago. Obviously now we know this was true. How all of a sudden a crisis?

    This transfer window is the most messed up i’v ever known. Where in a serious situation in the league and important players are wanting to jump ship. We need quality in quickly to go with our senior players coming back from injury.

    Toon Prodigy

  • 201 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    toon tinka
    forgot his dad said that.

  • 202 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Geoff
    Well said mate, as i said earlier colo has always always said his dad is his hero and has a massive influence in his football so for me dad + unhappy wife (rumour) = offski for captain colo and if it is that you cant blame him, disappointed? Yes but traitor? No

  • 203 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    tds
    thats fine but the other club must pay going rate

  • 204 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    If Collocini’s situation is so bad there is another option open to him. He retires. He leaves the club and hangs up his boots. He can then please himself.
    Everyone loses then. Perhaps we should cut our losses and take whatever we can get.

  • 205 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    PEOPLE!

    Has he personally come out and said I want to leave?

    Has he put a transfer request in?

    Does he have a clause in his contract like Ba?

    The answer to the above is no. Likelihood is some paper is having a really slow day and is reviving last weeks story that was shot down.

    If it comes out in the near future he wants to leave so be it. BUT alot of you are making assumptions and well you all did the same to Ba in the summer.

    Personally I think Ba never had the same connection to the fans he did since the summer and alot of the fans painted him as a greedy guy, traitor etc. They jump to conclusions too quick!

    It would be like me saying now Cisse wants to leave, its not been mentioned but he does. Then it trends and people start moaning at him. It does not favours to the team, the player or his relationship with us.

    CALM DOWN!

  • 206 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    PEOPLE!

    Has he personally come out and said I want to leave?

    Has he put a transfer request in?

    Does he have a clause in his contract like Ba?

    The answer to the above is no. Likelihood is some paper is having a really slow day and is reviving last weeks story that was shot down.

    If it comes out in the near future he wants to leave so be it. BUT alot of you are making assumptions and well you all did the same to Ba in the summer.

    Personally I think Ba never had the same connection to the fans he did since the summer and alot of the fans painted him as a greedy guy, traitor etc. They jump to conclusions too quick!

    It would be like me saying now Cisse wants to leave, its not been mentioned but he does. Then it trends and people start moaning at him. It does no favours to the team, the player or his relationship with us.

    CALM DOWN!

  • 207 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Tinka
    C’mon man keep the faith!!! You’d only just convinced me we will make signings dont bail on me!!

    Also dont buy the fact this “is a spin” from ashley, how stupid do you think the players are? Do you really think they would stay quiet about the club saying that there wife was unhappy? Cmon lads

  • 208 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    pawl – You have no idea what corroboration I will use if and when this story turns out to be true. He may or may not cite exact personal reasons for leaving ( I am guessing he will because I know he loves the club and fans enough to do so), but I will not quote those reasons to support me being ITK so relax.

    What I will say is why I came to that conclusion (which may still be wrong of course) and the background behind it, and importantly why I never said more at the time.

    The ONLY reason I am saying what I am saying is to give a heads up that Colo/Pardew/Club may not be to blame but external and personal forces over which there is little control, so we dont end up pillorying a good guy.

    In any event, try not to be short-sighted and arrogant enough to conclude there cant possibly be a satisfactory reason why I am not blabbing about everything right now. Have a bit of patience and we may not have fallen out for the wrong reasons mate. ;)

  • 209 Geordie-Jake // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11854/8390396/Napoli-enter-chase-to-sign-Marseille-striker-Loic-Remy Crackin

  • 210 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    They have that Argentine striker that played for Everton as their best player. Talents I don’t know.

  • 211 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Naptoon
    Im sure they will if colo would be on low wages there then we can drive the fee up, think the £10-15 mil ppl are saying is a but high for a 31 yr old tbh reckon the clib would listen to £8-10

  • 212 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    We need a statement from the club.

    They obviously know his intentions. If everything is to be believed in the press about him making it known to NUFC officials. We need a statement.

    No doubt they would be trying to keep him here because of our position. Maybe they have said we will let you go if we can find two adequate replacments at CB.

    We need a statement now, us fans deserve to know.

    Toon Prodigy

  • 213 Les Grossman // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    TSUNKI, everybody has heard the allegations that he has ‘alledgedly’ got some young bird up the duffer….

    Its all over twitter yout twatter!!
    BEANS SPILLED

  • 214 surreytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    I am inclined to believe that it is nothing to do with Pardew or the club.

    There is only 1 reason he would want to return to Argentina so hastily:

    1. His kids and missus are unilaterally and permanently relocating there

    And there is only 1 reason they would do that all of a sudden…

  • 215 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    @pawl cisse wants to leave? noooo
    guys we’re losing everyone. pawl just confirmed it

  • 216 WesJameson // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Traitor = No Chance

    Great CB = No chance either, i’m afraid, i think the only reason people say this, is because it’s been so bloody long since we had a centre back, who would at least pass the ball short

    For me, he had an excellent championship season, least we not forget, it was Saylor and Williamson, who played through the 11 game unbeaten streak

    For me, he is replaceable, he isn’t a great leader, so no miss there, hasn’t been up to scratch this season at all, he is on huge wages

    Only problem is, that although he is replaceable, the sh1te owners, will probably tell Percy to play Ameobi at CB, before they buy him another

  • 217 HullMag6 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Family based problem, club should act fast and decisively.

    Rebuild back line completely and find a new captain but not Jonas imo.

  • 218 ToonMauritius // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    hi lads

  • 219 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Is Debuchy include in those 10. 9 to go?

  • 220 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Nice one, Les Grossman, I never said anything about that. That makes you……….

  • 221 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Colo being 31 years of age, if he did want to leave and we had to sell him. He would arguably be worth between 5m and 7m.

    We wont get anymore for him, just wont happen.

    Argue against me? Look at our goals conceded and how many games he has played. THEN look at how many goals Woodgate played and how many we conceded with and then without him.

    Defence has always been an issue. Colo is a good player, but he looks class cos our other players in the same position or woeful and we try to believe that is average. Truth is he is no Woodgate!

  • 222 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Les
    You mean colo’s been gerrarding it!

  • 223 manxpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Let’s face it if it had anything to do with pardew or the club , the press would be all over it just like rotunda I.e player unrest, dressing room lost and so on
    The fact they aren’t tells me that it really is collo and personal reasons
    God knows how its all gonna be sorted out tho

  • 224 ToonMauritius // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Come on friends, give me some good news

  • 225 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    If Coloccini wants to leave in this window, we need to sign 3 centre-backs. Mbiwa is very similar to Coloccini, so he’d be a like for like replacement. We should also go for Alderewield and Sakho/Douglas.

    We need two strikers. Sow and Remy would be ideal.

    We also need to snap up Sissoko. £3m is a bargain.

  • 226 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Tads,

    This is concerning me mate. Iv got no doubt our signings will be through the door. Thats fine we will get them. But all this can’t be helping us getting players in. What must players be thinking?

    I expect a statement very soon regarding this matter. It needs cleared up.

    Toon-Prodigy

  • 227 Les Grossman // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    All ALLEGED!!
    Tsunki…it makes me what?? Libel….
    I think not!!!

    Stop attention seeking you immature little pleb!

  • 228 mattnufc // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Kets, can’t Abeid fill in at CB?

  • 229 ToonMauritius // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    if Collo want to go, sell him as well as Jonas, Williamson and Simpson.
    Bring in M’Biwa, Sakho, Mirin, Haidara, Sissoko/M’Vila

  • 230 Les Grossman // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Who Knows what Collo has done, if anything. Could be related to anything, his ‘personal reasons’.

  • 231 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    toonmaritaus
    ive got a long weekend… nowt on nufc front

  • 232 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    ffin meltdown

  • 233 theroosta // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Yet another attack by our manager on our younger players, im loosing so much respect for this imbicile.

    What about yoir favourite senior players then alan who have been norhing short of a disgrace this season, no mention of shipping them out, they have got us in this god Awful mess, im not aurprised ar colo having arguments with you, especially about tactics beacuse you havnt a clue, you evem mentioned bigi in your interview? An 19 year old kid who has given 100 per cent for you, and you sat you expected more!!!! I think you are a friitcake and you are kust trying to save your own neck you coward. Your senior players, af lrast half Re not good enough and should be shipped out, you should be ashamed of yourself, the ypungins got us in to tue last 32 of the europa no problem didnt they, quite frankly your comments nade me feel physically sick uou fool.

  • 234 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Figured it out guys….

    1. Create a feeling that Colo is leaving.
    2. Get him to stay.
    3. New CB done and dusted.

    Only playing, but feel free to use my cynical joke as a theory, it’s as likely as any other I’ve read.

  • 235 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Les – what are you on about? Read my last few posts man. In order not to attention seek I am off the blog until this episode concludes.

    I never said anything about what the personal reasons are, and I have no idea what you are on about.

  • 236 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    wahoo

  • 237 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Tsunki….Before you leave, kill the blog off, it’s in everyones best interest…imo of course ;)

  • 238 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    The playing away rumours were on the blog earlier today. If my wife left me I wouldn’t rap my job. It seems a pretty lame reason to me.
    In my opinion he should knuckle down and get on with his job. If that is the reason. Some compassionate leave may be in order but that should be agreed with the club. He shouldn’t be putting the club in this position.

  • 239 manxpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Wesjamson it was collo and staylor for that unbeaten run so you forgot lol

  • 240 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    novo
    agreed

  • 241 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Roosta, with respect.

    The youngins arn’t good enough for the premier league. They are NOT premier league players as yet. Pardew has been forced into using them this season because he wasn’t backed in the summer to bring quality cover in.

    The youngings have had a chance, they have never taken that chance. This is all he is pointing out. Maybe harsh, but its the truth all the same.

    Toon Prodigy.

  • 242 ToonMauritius // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    naptoon
    i’m working tomorrow 24hrs

  • 243 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Ibiza looks like I already did, the perennial blog asses are circling now. I need to get the hell out until this is over, but I will return to inform Les and pawl where they jumped the gun.

    In summary – I have a theory formulated from some prior knowledge I have of Colo’s situation, that his (possible) request to leave may not be anything to do with disagreements with anyone but are out of his control, and importantly (LES GROSSMUPPET) nothing he has done himself

    Colo is one of lifes rare good guys and would only leave for extenuating reasons.

  • 244 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Don’t forget, we need at least two strikers. Cisse is our only decent striker at the moment. Demba Ba was a huge loss.

  • 245 pawl250 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Jumping to conclusions – here are the facts

    A RUMOR has been spread saying he wanted to leave – Not confirmed so its a rumor simple.

    His agents denied the first set of rumors. Saying he knows of no such thing.

    His Dad would like him to finish his career at San Lorenzo, he could do that when he is 35 and play one more season. Would still be able to hack that league/level.

    So please people tell me where for definite, does it say he is gone? Its all rumors until confirmed until then this is all speculation and assumptions.

    I would suggest people stay calm until we find out the truth, your club and captain don’t need you having a wobbler over a game of Chinese whispers!

  • 246 naptoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    mauritius
    you ll miss the match not that im expecting a classic… 24hrs ouch.

  • 247 ToonMauritius // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    naptoon
    unfortunately friend

  • 248 KINGNUFC // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Don’t want to be pessimistic. but who’s your next captain if colo leave?

    i vote for Cabaye …full of passion.

  • 249 manxpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Les tsunki said if its way he thinks it is no ones to blame
    If was for gettin sum bird pregnant I think collo would have to take quite a lot of the blame although I’d just blame john terry :)

  • 250 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    the only concrete person we seem to be linked to is tomkins. truly underwhelmed. what a crock of sh…e

    2 clowns in charge who know nothing about football, an incompetent 3 rd rate manager well and truly found out after a one hit wonder and who can’t keep his mouth shut and players heading out the door.

    carlos slim or ambani where are you now!!!

  • 251 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Tsunki…I said kill it not send it in to a state of chaos – mind you, that isn’t out of the ordinary, so don’t lose too much sleep on it :)

    I get what Pawl is saying, we have no concrete information, so let’s not jump to conclusions to the point where people have written off our captain etc. However, I don’t think that’s what Tsunki has done, just posed an “idea” of what “may” be going on.

    We can chat about these things, it’s when people start treating it is fact and venting anger where it may not be due.

    Am I up to speed? Can we all have a big hug?

    Note: If we are to have a blog hug, Belfast can’t be involved, man makes my skin crawl :)

  • 252 Wandering Geordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Have I or have I not been posting you all about Collo for the last few days or were you in denial.I will keep you posted later with the current news here in S America

  • 253 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    the roosta

    I think Pardew has recently been harsh on the youngsters…when he criticised the europa league game I wasn’t happy, they just weren’t good enough.

    However this interview is fine. He said they need to put in effort which a lot of them haven’t. Look at the effort of bigi compared to sammy. Bigi has something to prove where sammy seems to think he has made it.

  • 254 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Somebody has just posted that the Toon need to make a statement about Collocini.
    It would appear that whatever has happened ,(something obviously has) that the situation needs to be “managed” by the club so as not to allow the rampant worldwide speculation thus briniging everyone involved, including the club, into disrepute. I have rattled on previously about bad/amateur PR at SJP and it is continuing.
    A quality PR statement could be issued, which adds no fuel to the fire either way, but which calms the situation.
    All this carry on in public surely cannot add to the clubs credibility when we are in the process of trying to get several new quality players in. The Toon have a knack of cocking things up and furthering the perception that we are a “joke” club. Some action needs to be taken now.

  • 255 Tom4Nufc // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Ibiza I’m up for a hug… Just go for a shower first mate :D

  • 256 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Wandering – I quoted you last night when I first posted the Indepent’s page (Belfast Mag will confirm) on this. So you are duly acknowledged as the news breaker. Its all your fault. I am now leaving you with that hot potato. :)

  • 257 MacToon // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Atleast our 5 year plan is becoming clearer by the day.

  • 258 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    pawl

    I know it’s rumour and as I said earlier lets wait and see what happens, even tomorrow we will have some idea, colo should play but lets see if he has his heart in the game. Also lets wait for the club/player to say something.

    But on the other hand it is reported on the BBC website, in its own article, not just the trasnfer rumour section. Not saying this is definite but the BBC has slightly higher standard before running an article than the daily mail or the sun etc.

  • 259 boater // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    I’m inclined to agree that Pardew publicly laying into the young players is cowardly and betrays the increasing pressure he finds himself under. The senior players have fared little better this season and there is clearly something more fundamental amiss within the club. Pardew acknowledged against Wigan how important it was to blood kids in an upbeat side – not just hurl them out amidst a collapse and expect them to turn it all around.

  • 260 Wandering Geordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Oh by the way Pezella’s name is still being mentioned,probably as a replacement. Collo will partner another target Mauro Cetto.

  • 261 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    We’re going to have some tough decisions in the summer.” “We’ve got 17 games and at least two in the Europa League to go. I’ll have a lot of questions answered about what I think is under the first team here, because at the moment, what has been under the first team at the moment hasn’t produced as I hoped it would.”

    how can anyone defend this, when you really look at it the whole squad has been poor all year

    we have had a few stand out players

    HBA IN A FEW GAMES

    santon and anita
    abd ba has scored goals

    other than these every player should be in the group of not performing

    another anoying thing , in the EL games,, i would say we showed more attack and looked a better team than the first team,,

    god know if the colo story is true, but it seems very funny that just a few weeks ago pardew came out with we had a falling out and now he wants to quit

    PARDEW IS THE PROBLEM

  • 262 dazza1980 // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Hes been shagging about nd got a bird pregnant nd his wife has moved bk to Argentina that’s why hes afta ganin

  • 263 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    TS…did you see my answer to you mate? ;)

    Ibiza…Why are you not allowed on anymore in the mornings?

  • 264 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Wandering

    Pezella…don’t know much of him…seen the youtube videos posted but they can make anyone look good.

    Can you give a review? strengths, weaknesses, character, etc

  • 265 gstadt // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Cabaye as next captain, for me … I’m sure Ashley will see this in pure business terms, unless someone stumps up the cash, Colo won’t go ;-)

  • 266 Wandering Geordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    @ Tsunki
    apolgies. I was referring to the doubters .I think you know the ones

  • 267 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    jesper

    I missed it…can’t even remember what my comment said to you haha.

    can you refresh my mind haha

  • 268 Carryingcoals // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    For anyone who wants a read of my view on the Colo situation, this is a bit more logical than the mass panic.

    I believe he’ll stay.

    http://www.carryingcoals.com/?p=448

  • 269 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    parting shot – mackem spotted @ 261. Expect a lot of that rubbish before this thing runs its course.

  • 270 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    For one night only till shola gets back from suspension, we may get to see the formation, if not the personnel we should have had all season.

    percy refused to rotate cisse and ba, so tomorrow that’s no longer an issue. bigi anita jonas in the middle, obi and marv either side of cisse.

    or is shola’s supsension not for tomorrow? in which case it will be percy’s beloved hoofball 442

  • 271 manxpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Transfer where have you been for the last 6 months? “The BBC have a higher standard before running a story ” haha

  • 272 boater // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Transfer – Not this again. Sammi is a different kind of player to Bigi – you’re looking for a creative spark from him, not endlessly harrying opposition players all over the park. I don’t think he had a good game technically, and his passing was too casual – but I don’t believe he is not putting the effort in on the pitch.

  • 273 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    TS…something about the Colo thing. Of course it’s all just hypothetically speaking :-)

  • 274 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Catchy

    I dont agree with criticising the ability of the kids…they can’t help it, if they try thats all we ask.

    However I dont mind pardew slating them for the lack of effort, some have been a joke.

  • 275 Carryingcoals // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    sage

    I know what you mean about the whole thing having its OWN article on the BBC, suggesting it’s pretty likely he wants to leave and will do so.

    However sky sports have a feature article saying there has been no transfer request, indicating that he will stay.

    Twitter at the minute seems deadlocked, with a lot of people saying he will go and a lot saying he will stay. Looks like its the waiting game for us now.

  • 276 ?Miguel? // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Colo to leave NUFC next week for certain.

  • 277 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    manx

    higher than the daily mail and the sun….not higher standards than your average person haha.

    Boater

    I am not discussing this with you further….you are not listening to any logic. I don’t want sammy coming back to help out the CBs but he needs to hurry the opposition around him.

    Players like rooney, messi, xavi, etc etc…all do a defensive job, working from the front. Even HBA does it better. And they all offer more going forward.

  • 278 Indian Magpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Gentleman

    It is darkest just before the dawn. Hope pray & be patient

    Go have a pint

  • 279 Eddie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Will be very sad to see Colo go but, as has been said, family first and good luck to him – tendremos bonitos recuerdos :)
    If/when he goes, i think it’s vital that we get an experienced CB – Hangeland or Lescott – as well as a younger but still ready to play CB.
    Regarding Campbell: with the new round of U21 games coming up, i feel this was always on the cards but i just wish Pardew could sound a little more positive about the bairns! After all, slagging them off won’t even help us if we need to move them on.

  • 280 Wandering Geordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    @transfer sage

    Good along the back line .Prefers Rb but has been used as Cb.Comfortable on the ball doesn’t tend to go to ground in tackles .Good tackler Reads the game well( has a Bobby Moore look about him -makes it look easy).Has an eye for goal and is still young.A very confident player and would be a fantastic addition.

  • 281 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Carryingcoals, the BBC article states that he wants to leave but has not submitted a transfer request. This is consistent with the Sky report.

  • 282 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    that’s got a ring to it catchy. Could become a mantra on the terraces. ”Pardew is the problem” Trouble is you need to work llambias and ashley in to it as well.

    Pardew would rather shell out 4m on Tomkins (the guy the mightly leon best destroyed) than Mirin , sakho or m’biwa

  • 283 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    carrying goals

    I have no idea what is going on with Colo…just thought if the BBC run it as its own article there must be something in there. Whether its true and he leaves or not I think for it to have its own BBC article there must be some element of truth in this.

  • 284 Les Grossman // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    ?Miguel?
    Thanks for that pearl!

  • 285 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    its darkest just b4 entering a black hole not that ive done that

  • 286 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    wandering

    thanks for that update….dont get a chance to see any football from that part of the world

  • 287 Carryingcoals // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Novocastrian66

    Sorry you’re right, just re-read them.

    sage

    I completely agree – there must be something, he must be considering it. I still think it’s a daft move, he has just signed a new contract and he is too young to go and play in a lesser league when he can offer a lot more at the top.

    Maybe Pardew can persuade him to stay though ey…

  • 288 lewytoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    his dad said he wants a ‘nice way’ to leave, which could be why it isnt a formal transfer request.

    also he is building a house in jesmond so that seems to me the situation has just recently occured and must be urgent to leave mid season.

    i dont have colo down as a ‘traitor’ and genuinely think he has to go rather than he wants to.

    where does this leave jonas???

  • 289 ToonMauritius // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    have a look at this lads
    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2013/01/11/lee-ryder-on-nufc-skipper-fabricio-coloccini-video-72703-32589369/?

  • 290 check the toastie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    In this case think everyone should just see how things pan out, nobody knows the ‘personel’ reasons, the lad was clearly happy here last year when he agreed to stay for the rest of his career.

    Clearly his life circumstances have changed it is having a big impact on the lad. If he does go, i wish him all the best, and it will be a crying shame as i think the bloke really does like the club and the town.

    All the best Collo, hope you stay but if you need to leave then good luck.

  • 291 Klam3r // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    This thing with Colo is one more on top of other problems for the club. You can’t blame it all on injuries.

    Dissapointing teamwork all season(except a couple of matches).
    Underperforming players, with exceptions.
    Extremely poor tactics, weird subs and no plan B on the field.
    Thin squad, but even with the injuries we should be higher up the table.
    Pardews decision to use Ba as ST and Cisse on the wing. Insane and probably cowardly.

    Ashley has to take the blame for appointing Pardew. It was not an ambitious move, a gamble that could swing either way. First season he cashed in, second season he looses it all. Will there be a third? And will our class players be here come then?

    Ashley has to take the blame for appointing Llameass. He does little or nothing for the club except trying for the impossible coup. Backfires more than i would like.

    Ashley is not backing his manager enough right now, and though i agree on the business model, this is the time too use a bit more than the initial budget.

  • 292 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    carrying

    I have no idea what to think on it really.

    He may have just hit a wall and decided enough is enough. Could be suffering depression, troubled family life, feeling isolated away from his family.

    Maybe he just wants to go home and have a comfortable life and been seen as a big star coming back home to his team.

    Maybe he wont want to leave the league and wants assurances the club will match his ambition.

    Lets face it…he may be in a better league here in england but what will he realistically have to show for it? i very much doubt he will have medals even if he completes his contract.

    Then again it could be all garbage and he might be happy staying here.

  • 293 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Reading between the lines Collo doesn’t fancy being risked at Peterborough on a cold Tuesday night next season when Pards didn’t think him worthy of being risked on a beautiful Thursday evening on the holiday island of Madeira this season.

  • 294 Novocastrian66 // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Carryingcoals No apology necessary amigo.

  • 295 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    t1ts up

  • 296 boater // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Transfer Sage – so your point is that Sammi does not compare favourably with Barcelona’s best players? And you wonder why I am struggling to digest your logic..

    He is a raw kid shorn of confidence playing in a miserable side in which everyone is playing below par. Picking out individuals for criticism- especially trainees is comically missing the bigger picture.

  • 297 check the toastie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Anybody linking Pardews inept management style and Collocini leaving is clearly missing the point.

    Collocini is leaving for non football reasons, quite clearly. I am happy to give Parsnip pelters for football tactics and the like but in this case i think people should refrain from the abuse.

    Nobody knows what the reasons are he wants to cancel his long term lucrative contract, and anybody with half a brain would see it has nothing to do with his relationship with Pardew.

    He is losing a fortune walking away and going back to Argentina, some things are clearly more important than money.

  • 298 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    That last cheeky dig at the Collo situation is the last I’m saying about it until the window closes.

  • 299 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Tomorrow’s game is all or nowt. Hughton loved the Toon but will want to stick it to the board. “Hi Arsley! Look at what i’ve done with my team of under achievers” Fair enough the’ve dipped in the last 4/5 games, but are sitting 5 points clear of us. Still have a lot of respect for Hughton. Wondering if he was still manager, would the team spirit still be here?

  • 300 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    I think we all need to take a few deep breaths and a couple of steps back.

    All we’re operating on is speculation and rumour, and it would be unfair to pin any conclusion as to who is responsible for Colo’s supposed desire to return home on anyone, least of all Pardew or Colo himself. My own theory is that it has nothing to do with football, which is presupposed with the declaration that he wants to go home for “personal reasons” so all of those speculating that Pardew is the problem may be wrong on that score.

    If he leave he absolutely must be replaced with a ready made CB, preferably someone with PL experience but the cost of that may be too great but bringing in a foreign CB and expect him to lead the line when we are in relegation trouble could seriously backfire so interesting times as to how the club deals with this.

    Couldn’t fault Colo for leaving if he does, he has been a superb captain and has served us wonderfully for the last few years. These personal problems put his questionable performances in a new light and I hope he can sort himself out and get back to his best, preferably at our club but if not then all the best Colo, you will be missed.

  • 301 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    I hope we can outbid Swansea to get Iago Aspas if we can’t get Remy or PEA. Kid is on list of top chance creator in Europe. Other player that create a lot of chance and might fit in two our transfer policy:
    AM/ST/W
    Kioyote – is chance creating maestro for Nurnburg.
    Max Kruse – It work last year to bring in player from Freiburg.
    Oczipka – German Baines.

  • 302 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Tom….Had a quick shower, not bring it in :)

    Jesper….Just work mate. Fairly flat out at the minute in the mornings and looking ahead it’s going to get busier. Good news for some ;)

  • 303 nimo // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    from What ave heard 1 of his family members has cancer in Argentina.. Colo been as loyal anyone in recent times and i can’t blame him if he needs to go.. perhaps loan him back till the summer… his form has obviously suffered this season.. maybe this is why

  • 304 Beattie25 // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Flog Colo and bring in Chris Samba, sorted.

    Also buy KOOONNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • 305 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    ashley lambarse pardew stunned into doing nowt

  • 306 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    If Colo goes, its vital we get someone like James Tomkins in (or even better), then maybe m’bwia or whoever…

    not had too much look with centre backs from abroad, so if we get an m’bwia/sakho and they turn into a boumsong, at least we will have a tomkins to come in and do a solid job (if not fantastic). We cant be affording for foreign centre halves to be adapting during a relegation fight.

  • 307 Spreadthetoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Naptoon
    Your quote on Collo “hes been 1 of our best players last 2 years – shite this season shite the season we went down and decent in championship. we paid 10 mill for him at 25 26 i cant see anyone paying 10 mill for him now at 30 31.
    if nufc were buying not selling the regime would value him at about $2.50 pence.”

    Seeing as you are unsure of your valuation of $ or pence, I think I’ll take your opinion with a pinch of salt….

    Sorry, I do not agree with you, think your words are very harsh on Collo, shows poor judgement…he’s our captain and is very important indeed. And he was one of the best players in the EPL last year….

  • 308 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    boater

    yet again you refuse to acknowledge my argument and instead make a comment which is irrelevant.

    Sammy ameobi not putting effort is not the reason the team is in this predicament…there are much more serious reasons…lack of investment, injuries, debatable tactics.

    What I am saying is players like rooney, messi, xavi, tevez, etc get to the top not just on talent but hard work.

    Now I am not saying it is easy for sammy, we are playing so badly he will have few good options when on the ball so I wont be too critical of his technical performance.

    I don’t like the fact he seems to not chase loose balls, pressurize defenders, harry the other team into mistakes etc.

    Shola ameobi has the same problem, he is a combination of lazy and unfit. He has somehow been allowed to coast through his career like this.

    In 10 years do you want sammy ambling around st james’ like shola or would you rather see him give 100% like tevez does, chasing everything down.

    I know what I would like to see. He is young and needs to show some desire to play for the club.

    Look at shane ferguson…(when played has played left wing like sammy has for us) he may not be great either but he doesn’t stop…he does his defensive job and also does his attacking job.

    Berbatov was booted out of man utd not because he wasn’t good enough but because his style of play was too lethargic for the team. Alex ferguson saw this as a weakness….he didn’t defend with the team and this cost them in the big big matches against barcelona.

  • 309 Wandering Geordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    To keep up to date with Collogate

    http://www.ole.com.ar/

  • 310 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Hes our biggest earner, so surely frees up wages for lescott ;)

  • 311 Markaccus // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Any idea why Ed hasn’t posted more stories today? Hope he’s ok. Maybe taken this colo news badly.

  • 312 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    sazzer

    swansea have a good link with getting players now, especially spanish players.

    Laurupp is a legend, especially in spain and denmark and is very well respected. A lot of players will want to work with him.

  • 313 Beattie25 // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Remember the relegation season and the players we lost that ultimately destined us to dooooommmmm (Given especially).

    Welcome to the twilight zone

  • 314 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Transfer Sage…if this is the point you’re making I totoally agree with you…

    It’s been hard for the youth players to blend in as they have been played with each other too often and its not their fault we are 15th…

    however one thing you expect from youngsters is desire and Brighton were first and second to everything last week, which is probably what has got Pardew all ruffled up.

  • 315 check the toastie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Ruddy – totally agree – nice post.

    First time for everything.

    Bobby, think that swapping Simpson (worthless) and a couple of million for Tompkins would be really clever business, as you say, we should go out and try and acquire a top CB from France etc. however no guarentee they will be a success, Tompkins is OK and defo a massive upgrade on Willo so get him in quickly.

    The problem is though if we do get Tompkins Lambarse and Fatty wont invest in another CB probably, so we will be left with Tompkins and Willo as CB’s once Saylor gets injured again :(

    Current Club Status – In January we will lose Ba, Collo and Tiote (ACON). Not bad for a team in a relegation battle. If investment in the squad is not forthcoming we are in deep shit.

  • 316 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    I personally feel colo has been asked a lot of. No settled back four, no quality cover. Colo must know williamson is average at best. Taylor is forever injured. The club should be asking questions of Taylor now. The lad is forever off the field with injuries. If i was Colo id be sick of my life. I have no doubt with a settled back four Colo’s performances would of been a lot better. Taylor, williamson, perch, ferguson, santon, r. Taylor, anita, simpson. Its ridiculous really.

    Alot of pressure on our captain this has been. Dont doubt it.

    Toon-Prodigy

  • 317 BigKirky // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Pardieux isn’t very well liked by other managers in the league and I’ve been told he doesn’t treat some of the players too well either, as well as being very arrogant and unpolite. Was told this a couple of times months ago. Roberto Martinez, is the exact opposite apparently. He may seem all silver tongued when folk meet him in the street, but in the nitty gritty of it all it’s different.

    I was quite surprised he has come out and slated the young players. Yes, they didn’t do great, but is that down to coaching and man management? I don’t know, but I don’t agree with the public slating of the young lads to the extent which he has done.

  • 318 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    robby bobson

    The best way to bring young players is one or two at a time. Pick them when they are in form and when the team is playing well. That is the ideal situation.

    I know it can’t always be ideal as we have seen this season. Thats why I don’t criticise if they make mistakes, it happens.

    What I don’t like to see is no fight and effort. I dont want them running around like headless chickens for 90 minutes but I think they need to do more than some of them have.

  • 319 Markaccus // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    If its truely family reasons, than I don’t hold it against them. Even mega rich footballers have human emotions, people often forget that and expect them to “get on with it, you’re being paid enough” if he goes we should say thankyou and wish him luck.

  • 320 danishmag // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Robby B..
    Lescott is nowhere near the level of Coloccini. We have been blessed with luck, having a defender like him in our ranks for so long. His abilities is far beyond most defenders with class. Let alone last year, he was on the team of the season in the league.
    His only weakness is his speed. Other than that, he has it all.
    IMO the best defender we have had for the 20 years i have been a supporter.

    And lads.. Its not false… He wants to leave, as it is in the news here on danish sites as well.. And they do not write anything, if there is nothing to it, i´m affraid.
    I think its because the row he and Pardew had back in november/december. He cannot work under Pardew no more i guess. (That´s his personal reason)
    Goodbye Colo, and thank you for having shown us you superb qualities.

    If Ashley had some bal… He would fire Pardew, as he has lost the players confidence.. And hire Laurent Blanc.

  • 321 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Check the toastie

    We may disagree on an awful lot on the playing side of things but at least you have the sense that Catchy lacks insofar as you can see that this Colo issue has nothing to do with Pardew.

  • 322 danishmag // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    markaccus…
    i agree! legend for me, Colo!

  • 323 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Yeah, Aspas is friend with Michu as well if I remember correctly.

    But our new beavering aggressive transfer policy is not to get outbid =)

    The Japanese guy is a more realistic target, since Nurnberg is like Freiburg.

    And not sure Freiburg will want to sell their best player to us again.

    So go for Oczipka if we get reasonable offer on Santon or if we plan to play him as winger

    Otherwise we have to go for those that doesn’t create 100 chance or more a season. To those that are in the 40-60 chance created range.

  • 324 Wandering Geordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Juan Antonio Pizzi to attend a press conference in 1-2 hrs with regard news on Collo handing in a transfer request.I will keep you posted.

  • 325 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Danish….Sorry, but where would your national papers get their sources from? Do they have a direct line to either the club or Colo, if not, are they not just basing it on the same info as everyone else, which may look clear cut, but are far from it and are nothing more than guesswork (albeit perhaps an educated guess).

    My point is, there is nothing official anywhere, how would a Danish paper have inside info?

  • 326 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    If Colo wants to leave in the summer then fine, but allowing him to leave now would be suicidal as no doubt we wouldn’t replace him

  • 327 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    check

    it may well be other factors as well and clearly ” personal reasons ” means just that. However, when colo and pardew had their spat and pardew did his ” we’re winners ” joke, it wouldn’t have helped matters a whole lot.

    when i said a long time ago pardew could take us down I was ridiculed, but these are very unhappy times at NUFC right now.

  • 328 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    These dressing room bust ups are nothing. It happens.

    Ba wanted away and he is very coy. An excuse for him to leave.

    In no way do i think pardew is setting the team up to play long ball, i believe this is down to 2-3 individuals lacking in confidence continously hitting it long when in possesion.

    If there was a huge problem within the squad about our style of play, every player would be up in arms about it, not the two people who want out of the club.

    Think about that.

    Toon-Prodigy

  • 329 archaeomag // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    We will miss his steel / Colonium and some of the best hair in the devision.

    Good luck to him

  • 330 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    archaeomag….There goes our dream of 11 big haired players…sad times.

  • 331 check the toastie // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Ruddy – still think Pardew should have been sacked games ago, would still have been in the FA Cup if he had been.

    The bloke is clueless.

  • 332 danishmag // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    rumour has it, that his wife left him and took the two children with her to Argentine.. Just a rumour.. Anyone heard of it?

  • 333 robin // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    No investment in the team a third rate Manager that is frightened of the board all the ingredients of a club in turmoil. Make no bones about it NUFC will be playing Championship football next season!!!

  • 334 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    check

    If Pardew where to be sacked who do you think would replace him?

    Not who would you want to replace him, but who do you honestly think Ashley would employ???

  • 335 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    toon prodigy

    Surely the manager should work with these players uncomfortable on the ball and make them play it out, train extra sessions etc.

    Not saying he can totally correct them but surely must make them a bit better.

    Also surely stats somebody posted the other week showing colo played more long balls than anyone shows it isn’t just a few individuals responsible (willo, simmo and krul).

    Not saying this is the reason for the colo wanting to leave…just talking about long ball.

  • 336 two steps forward one step back // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    TS and Bills-son have it best on the wains.
    They can do the 15 min cameo and get gently borught into the team but a full 90 in a fevered Cup altmosphere is too much for them.
    Things have to be doine bit by bit and carriyn g two inexperienced players in an otherside stable startying 11 is a different kettle to the Brighton situation.

    However, Pards was right to slag them off. There were some crucial basic skills missing (including wunder kid Santon) and the work ethic was total shite. If that is the best they can do motivation and spirit wise then we need the clear out. Guys on £500,000 a year and 18-19-20 should be grafting their nuts off for the team.

    If Batman is going to stretch the transfer budget now I bet he’s bringing forward summer expenditure and we won’t sign anyone this summer. Could work tactically for next season as the team will have had 20 odd gruelling matches to weld into a team, not just pre-season.

  • 337 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Check that’s where we disagree, but that’s the glorious thing about opinions, they can be different.

    Surely you see that he has been let down by the board in the summer with regards investment? On top of that he has suffered serious injuries to key players from the start of the season until now. I don’t think we’ve ever had our full team fit at any point in the season.

    But I do recognise that he has made questionable decisions that have contributed to this position we’re in too.

  • 338 danishmag // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    ibizatoon..
    As i wrote.. Danish papers do not write about silly rumours, when it comes to sports. They du however, write about facts.. I do not know where they have their info from, but it is out.

  • 339 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    I love Colo and his contribution is much more than defending as he likes to play it out from the back….but dont think he is irreplaceable to be honest.

    Lets just get at least one centre back who we know will be solid if not spectacular in the prem to get us through the season and maybe a fancy la de da centre back for the longer term replacement (that Argentine u21 guy looks a long-term replacement).

  • 340 geoff777 // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    I must admit this is starting to feel like the relegation season all over again. The vibe is now very similar.

    No one is performing.
    No team spirit.
    Clueless management letting it drift. 12/14 losses c’mon.
    Teams around us starting to win …

    The dynamic duo at the helm so blinded by champagne spray that they can’t see the rocks.

    Beardsley appointed for the last eight matches?

  • 341 JAMSHA // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Danishmag

    IF THATS TRUE THEN I THINK WE NEED TO LET HIM GO…

  • 342 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Colo has been a great player for us does he not deserve some respect rather than us posting numerous unfounded rumours about what his personal reasons are?

    If he’s intent on leaving us I hope he allows us time to find a couple of CBs to replce the hole he’ll leave which I imagine he would

  • 343 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    And I see the long ball thing has come back up, since the QPR game Krul has always been playing the ball out to the defeners except for when Shola is on the pitch.

    For 70 minutes at Arsenal we had 100 more successfull passes than them at the Emireates!

    Looks like we are trying but then in the last 20 minutes we get desperate and resort to long hopeless balls.

  • 344 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    check

    tomkins has only made 11 starts out of 21 premiership games and always has a mistake in him. yes would be good to get rid of Simpson, but really not the quality we need, ie like a sakho, m’biwa, mirin. pezzella.

    Bigkirky

    It would be hard to think of a more unpleasant, sleazy and footballingly incompetent trio than M.A, D.L and A.P. Even our sponsor is dodgy.

  • 345 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    ruddy and check

    Thats the great thing about football…it is so subjective.

    We all acknowledge injuries, lack of signings and poor decisions by the manager but we all assign a different % of the blame to each.

    Some might say pardew is 10% at fault whilst others may think he is 80% fault.

  • 346 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Rotonda heights
    ‘sakho, m’biwa, mirin. pezzella’

    Are we really in a position to take a risk on a young guy who has never played in the prem to replace our captain? We need an experienced guy who will be able to come straight in as well, in case these players take their time (just as Colo did).

  • 347 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Anybody who has been reading g this blog for awhile will know that I wasn’t to happy with the appointment of Pardew a couple of years ago, but I will not deny that he won me over, not for the style of play but his seeming ability to grind out results and get the best out of players and that’s why I have been supportive of his management so far but the next three games are definitive of our season and if we don’t get at least five or seven points out of these then I really don’t see where we are going to get another 23 points from, then after these three games it’s time to assess whether he is still the right man for the job.

  • 348 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Robby Bobson

    We are definitely heading the right direction with regards to long ball.

    Hopefully this will continue and we will improve when we have the top players back.

    All I have asked of pardew this season is to identify problems and correct those which are in his control.

  • 349 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Transfer,

    We are working on it. It has been noticed and rectified. We our playing better football, players are looking calmer looking for options.

    We can say they are proffesionals as much as we want, or how much money they earn. But the reality is they are only human at the end of the day. Alot of nervous players out there, plus another 50,000 nervous geordies for good measure.

    This said, we cant expect our back up players, fringe players, development players to produce the same sort of quality and ability on the field as our senior players or strongest 11.

    You can train/coach them as hard as you want, but if they are not ready, they simply are not ready.

    Toon Prodigy.

  • 350 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    sage

    it’s his formations, tactics, subs, endless excuses and stupid comments that do my head in.
    As someone said he’d play messi DM !

    he thinks there’s nothing wrong with the style or the attitude. He’s fatally arrogant.

  • 351 Dannyo // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Collo is one of the nicest and most respectable footballers has had the pleasure of fielding.
    Always time for the fans, loads of autographs, behaves well, captains his team, organises things for his fellow footballers at the club.
    I’d ask him one last favor, wait until the window is clear OR until we can bring in two new CBs, then give him his wish.
    We both owe eachother that much imo.

  • 352 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    If Colo wants to leave then we have to respect that, this is a guy that stuck with us when we went down when he could have easily walked away.

    I’d be gutted to see him leave and worried that we’d fail to replace him

  • 353 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Danish…Fair enough, we will see. But generally respected national papers pick up on stories when they gather worldwide pace without having their own info.

    Still, it is looking likely that something is going on, it’s just with some of the conclusions people jump to they may end up in Argentina themselves.

  • 354 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Jail,

    Im surprised at that comment from you

  • 355 archaeomag // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    @Ibiza
    Buying Bong -will cheer me up lots

  • 356 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    toon prodigy

    see my reply to robby bobson above your comment…think we agree haha

  • 357 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    archeomag…See that’s where we differ, buying supplies for bong cheers me up :)

    Tinka….Jail may dislike Ashley and Llambias, but he is a reasonable guy with normal expectations in the majority.

    P.S. Doing a great job recently with the positivity – good lad.

  • 358 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    bobby robson,

    It’s always a risk whoever comes in. look at Cisse, he hit the ground running spectacularly.

    Tomkins is not the answer as young CB.

    Young CB : Mirin, sahkho, mbiwa, pezzella

    Older CB ? who would come now?

  • 359 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Our best chance creators:
    Anita 29
    Ben-Arfa 22
    Cabaye 19
    Santon 18
    Cisse 15
    Marveux 15
    Jonas 13
    Shola 12
    (Ba 11!)
    Tiote 9
    Simpson 8
    Bigi 8
    Ferguson 7
    Perch 6
    Colo 5
    Obertan 4
    R.Taylor 2
    Willo 2
    Krul 2
    Sammy 1
    S.Taylor 0
    Tav 0
    Ranger 0

  • 360 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    TS…it’s my comment @ #188

  • 361 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Toon tinka,
    Why would that be ?

  • 362 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Found a fact to cheer everyone one up and bring optimisim….

    We have conceded the most goals from headers this season, Norwich have scored the most goals from headers this season.

    Oh joys.

  • 363 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Ibiza…still running Global Escapades? (have we gone global already? ;) lol)

  • 364 Beattie25 // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    At least he hasn’t just fooooked off like Tevez did

  • 365 BigKirky // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Rotonda, that was from someone within the playing staff and coaches. Not what I want to be hearing to be honest.

  • 366 beddersmag // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Danish mag

    Yeah i heard that rumour. He apparently got a cramlington lass pregnant which is why she left him. Heard it through a friend who works at browns2000 in cramlington. Told blog last week and sadly looks like might have truth in it

  • 367 LEROI // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    If collo doesn’t stay till summer at least,he’s just another rat jumping our ,sinkin ship & i’ll always question his sincerity. if he’s knocked up some tart & his wife has peed off back to argy, then he’s got little chance of sorting it just coz he’s turned his back on us too & scuttled back after her!

  • 368 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Colo is playing tomorrow but feels he cant stay on tyneside anymore, due to personal reasons. Bbc radio newcastle.

  • 369 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    LEROI

    That rat that you say is jumping ship stayed with us when we went down when he could have walked away easily.
    Try to have a little respect for our captain

  • 370 jayphoto // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    cant believe people on here are linking Pardew to Ba leaving and Colo wanting to go…..
    Ba jumped fro 30k a week to 80k a week, a title challenge and most likely champions league next season! Hes not a geordie, hes a die hard PSG fan, PL football is a job to him, can anyone on this blog honestly tell me that if someone offered to double your salary and move you to a more successful company you wouldn’t jump at the chance???
    And regarding Colo, the guy stands to lose millions by leaving the toon and going back to argentina, its obviously down to serious personal problems else he’d be looking to move to a money league like brazil, qatar, MLS, he’d also have teams in spain, Monaco etc lining up for him, was only 6 months ago Man City were interested

  • 371 Williamsonsuks // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Cmon Colo! So what you dipped your wick in some young lass and your wife took yours kids away. In 9 months you could start another family. Dont leave us.

  • 372 ?Miguel? // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Simmo + 2.5mill for tomkins!

  • 373 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Ibiza,
    You are being very diplomatic to say that I dislike Mashley and Dirk Dastardly, I actually hate them as much as my late Grandmother hated Hitler, Hirohito and Thatcher.

  • 374 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Transfer,

    Total agreement :)

    Jail,

    I just thought you may of give it a little more time. Maybe 6-8 games. Pretty much all of our full squad back by then and settled. New faces in, hopefully settled aswell. 3 games to me seems a little early for our waltz up the table. Maybe a little to early to judge, i respect your opinion though mate. lets hope we see some positive signs in the next few games then.

    Ibiza,

    Im not fan of those 2 either. I blame them for our current predicament in regards to their huge gamble in the summer. And thanks, I do try ;)

    Toon Prodigy

  • 375 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    i think the lack of effort is due to lack of respect, i think it is being leveled at the kids, but these kids are not the ones setting an example, there just following a one,

    ruddy ,
    you can say what ever you like about me not wanting to accept that not everything is pardews fault,, and in a some cases your our 100% right,,

    i dont blame pardew for lack of signings, i blame him for not working with the players he has,, i think it is utter madness for him to say time after time the kids are not good enough,, esp when he classes the kids up to 23,, that is half of our team

    these same kids where all here last season, these same kids helped him get manager of the season, these same have all gone backwards,, thats the part im finding hard to deal with,,

    he is in trouble not because of kids, he is in trouble because he got his tacktics wrong in the first 15 games, he did not get points against teams he should have, this has put presure on him now,

    now everyone is to blame but not him

  • 376 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    JB,
    Although I don’t tolerate him being called a rat the reason he stayed for the Championship season is because unlike all the new clauses in players contracts at SJP this time around is that he was still getting a full wage along with all the others that couldn’t get shipped out because nobody would match their wages.

  • 377 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    jayphoto

    im not blaming pardew for him going, but ba did come out and express that the football under pardew was not the best, along with colo having arguments with him,,

    no one will ever know the real reasons, but come on,, a few month ago, he signed a new contract, money was the problem then, now he has a falling out, he wants to leave,,
    the players know more than we do about what is going on,,
    EXPECT PLAYERS LIKE HBA,CABAYE TO GO NEXT

  • 378 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    This gets worse -if Collo starts tomorrow and has a stinker -questions will be raised as to why he was started in the first place due to all this stuff going on in the background.
    Just when the fans appear to be getting a “lift” by el gordo and Dick Dastardly finally agreeing to get a replacement half team in – we then revert to our normal shambles level.

  • 379 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Jail for Ashley
    LIKE ALAN SMITH :)

  • 380 LEROI // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Listen peeps i’m sorry about recent negative rantings but most things about our team of late both on and off the field has really made me angry & annoyed. Why don’t Newcastle utd seem to have any grit & determination on the pitch & why don’t the powers that be go out & immediately. sign us a few players to improve our lackluster team? It really. feels like us fans are the onlyones that give a f*ck & even then some of us have all but given up!

  • 381 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    dont worry., pardew is buying 10 new players

  • 382 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Forgot
    Debuchy 19

    Kruse 52
    Kiyotake 47
    Aspas 44
    Oczipka 33

    More well known:
    Baines 67
    Suarez 57
    Gerrard 56
    Totti 56
    Cazorla 50
    Özil 52
    Mata 47
    Kroos 47
    Pienaar 41
    Ribery 41
    Van Persie 41
    Muller 38
    Reus 36
    Koke 36
    Hazard 36
    Ibrahimovic 32
    Menez 31
    C.Ronaldo 28
    Rooney 27
    Valencia 26
    Xavi 25
    Carrick 25
    Benat 25
    Messi 24
    Fellaini 21
    Young 20
    Evra 19
    Rafel 16
    Falcao 16

  • 383 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    catchy.. “now everyone is to blame but not him”

    Quotes from Pardew….hardly blaming everyone but him is he?

    “You lose ­confidence in terms of faith in what you are doing to some degree, but you have to stay strong.

    “For me, sometimes I look back on periods, good and bad. We keep a record of everything we do.

    “Every training session we have done since I arrived here is kept and we can go back to them.

    “The frustration of our fans, the trust we built up last season, has started to erode and we need to repair that over the second half of the season. It’s been very frustrating.

    “My mentality towards it is to make sure everybody is doing their jobs 100 per cent, keeping on top of my stuff, trying to lift my players and kick a couple of them up the backside in terms of the responsibility they have here.

  • 384 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Jail

    There were plenty of clubs that would have taken him, he could have easily gone back to Spain . £10 million pound defenders don’t just drop off the face of the earth because they are playing in the Championship and his wages weren’t that high that they’d scare other clubs off him

  • 385 Beattie25 // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    I can’t believe people are ruling out that it might be Pardew.

    Look, none of us know nothing so until then we cannot rule anything in or out.

    For me it seems like it’s a family based reason but Colo will not leave us in the shite, he seems like a decent man and an excellent pro.

    If you believe the rumors he took a wage cut to stay here and turned down some big clubs to stay and didn’t get disheartened when we rejected bids for him.

    To me he looks like despite everything his head has gone. The man has been an excellent servant but surely you can play with all your heart but if your head isn’t in it you might as well not play at all.

    For me, I’d let him go. I’d rather have someone come in with a point to prove than have Colo here, the captain, leader and organizer with half an eye elsewhere.

  • 386 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Think signing Tomkins will be a step back. We need top players like Sahko, Mbiwa and Aldereweirld to come in.

  • 387 belgrade fan // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    if Collo leaves we r going down. I cant see us with Willo and Perch to stay in the league. And ST always f..ng injured. and our manager is very silent, only cares how to keep his job. everybody sees players dont like him and dont want to play for him

  • 388 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    sazzer

    chances created is a crap stat

    you have to look at goals and assists

    chances created are just balls into the box, anyone that puts a cross into the box, even if that cross is way to long, goes down as a chance :(

  • 389 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Tuff,

    Me too, im starting to get a little p’d off at the fact we seem to solve a problem and another arises to dampen spirits. Ba, Colo.

    This Colo situation has took me really by surprise, think im still in shock to be honest. Are captain and best CB wants to leave while we are in a dogfight half way through a campaign. To say im shocked is an understatement tbh. All of this going on while we are trying to bring quality into the club. Its one hell of a window this. Gutting.

    Waiting for a statement regarding colo still. Hoping its good news.

    Toon Prodigy

  • 390 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Robby Bobson

    great words

    he also kept saying we never got our passing game going, yet we played more long balls than any other team

    my point is actions speak louder than words,, the actions of the the team how we play and the lack of effort speaks volumes,,

    man u and ars for 70 mins, thos are the only games where i seen real effort

  • 391 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Headed duels NEW vs CHE + Tomkins
    Cahill 73% 40/55
    Tomkins 70% 48/69
    Willo 68 % 100/147
    Terry 67% 16/24
    Ivanovic 64% 39/61
    Luiz 53% 28/53
    Colo 37% 14/38

  • 392 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    stats are crap results are wot counts

  • 393 Offkey // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Surely, if the dressing room had gone, all players wanted out etc. Cabaye would have never persuaded his best mate to come.

  • 394 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    John Tudor

    fully agree

    you can look at stats and say how did we not win,,

    stats dont tell you the quality of the chances, the effort put into the match by the full team

  • 395 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Toon tinka,
    The reason being is that with these teams being around us this is the easiest and only chance to pull away, I fear that after these three games if we haven’t managed a a decent result or two then after 6-8 games it could be to late sometimes a change of manager can work wonders, but as we all to sadly remember in the case of Shearer not to save a sinking ship.
    JB
    As you well know I am not an itk or don’t claim to be but whether Collo had better offers is open to dispute, I can’t recall Martin’s screaming to go but Mashley wanted him off the wage bill, if who ever bought him (I can’t remember) had of offered him ten grand less a week do you think he would have want so easily.

  • 396 belgrade fan // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Whats about that Mike Lowes, is he reliable?? I know he said one big name in next 24 hrs..
    Came here to see that we agreed fee fow a new CB-ST, now I see our captain might leave..
    Funking p…d off with our bussines

  • 397 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Offkey

    when it normally happens,, the manager goes before most of the players

  • 398 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    shearer only had 8 matches

    if we are going down that road, id prefer the new guy or who ever takes over got more than that

  • 399 LEROI // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    @ Jackbutler 368. when went down collo was on a great contract that no one else would have given him & he had not settled in to prem footy at all in fact he was a bit crap t say the least in our relegation season . so I’m under no obligation to show respect for him & his agents financially motivated calculated risk. Sorry if you disagree! Another thing as good as he was most of last season with glimpses of the same this, i would have picked someone else like steve taylor as captain aswell due to collo’s limited grasp of english.

  • 400 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Jail

    Like you I’m no ITK but Colo has always been a classy defender, I know he struggled during his first season with us but surely there were other clubs that would have taken him???
    His wages at the time were not astronomical and maybe I’m being a little short sighted by my respect for the lad, but I’d like to think he stayed out of loyalty and not greed

  • 401 geoff777 // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Any news on the Bong transfer?

    The chairman of Valenciennes said we’d actually made an offer. Journo’s pipedream or a genuine water bubbling bid?

  • 402 ToonTinka // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Jail,

    I understand. These our decent games where we have a real chance of pulling away. I’d love to see it, i just feel personally it might be a little too early. Our 1st team players are just coming back now, they may need a few games. We might be surprised and i hope we are.

    Personally, i dont think it will come down to a change of manager. I think where more than capable of moving up the table so long as we get the cover in needed for the 1st team in the next couple of weeks. Replacing colo could prove difficult if this is all true i fear. A new 1st team CB coming in at this point is dangerous, if he dosnt hit the ground running we may have a problem

    Toon-Prodigy

  • 403 Offkey // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Catchy – Yeah, can understand that mate, but his agent was doing business with MA and DL. Surely the agent would have been seeking assurances of a new manager.

  • 404 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    If Collo leaves this will be our eighth club captain to leave since Mashley arrived five years ago along with two star strikers.

  • 405 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Just another day in the reality show NUFC.
    Very bad new re Colo and while I do have some sympathy with the man if he is experiencing severe family problems( the Echo is reporting that it is not football related for wanting to leave) Newcastle has to come first in my book. The timing is terrible and he should only be allowed to leave if we have replacements in place. Having said that his form has been below his best and if we can get someone better then it may not be such a bad thing. San Lorenzo seem to want him on a free which seems a bit cheeky to me, if they want the man that much they should be prepared to cough up some sort of fee for him.

  • 406 Jamesthefirst // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Colo has been magnificent for us, but his heart isn’t in it anymore due to personal reasons (his wife). And we can all see that on the pitch. Plus how cheesed off must he be having to cover for Williamson all the time?

    Ashley will let him go because of his age. But it’s not all doom and gloom. I for one think this will be the making of us, because finally our true leader can wear the armband: Cabaye.

    He is our most influential player by a mile. He dictates how we play and boy have we missed him. Wearing the armband will see him become a great captain and inspire us up the league.

    He is truly world class and is Newcastle’s engine. Hence why without him we haven’t got going this season. When Cabaye returns we will start winning again.

  • 407 catchy in norway // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Offkey

    you never know, maybe they have

    maybe the players just talk

    who knows,,

    all i know is pardew is not the man to take us forward,,

    for what ever reason there is an unhappy dressing room

  • 408 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Jail…So what you’re saying is make Williamson captain? Or even better, Llambias!

    Jesper…Yeah, not quite global yet, but expansion is happening. For now the escapade continues :)

  • 409 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    LEROI

    We’ll have to agree to disagree on Colo, but other than him we were limited to naming a captain, Saylor misses large parts of every season and at the time only Colo and Jonas were guaranteed starters of our senior players that could take the captains arm band. Now however I’d look to Cabaye if Colo leaves

  • 410 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    catchy in norway
    You get created chance by adding key passes and assists.
    From who scored glossary:
    Key Pass
    the final pass leading to a shot at goal from a teammate
    Assist
    a pass that directly leads to a chance scored by a teammate
    Cross
    an attempted/accurate pass from a wide position to a central attacking area

    I guess you can take the ratio from number of assist/keypasses, to get some effiency measure but if you have been creating chances for a crappy striker all season long, then you won’t get many assists no matter how good your passes are.

  • 411 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Ibiza…so are we getting bigger than just Ibiza? ;)

  • 412 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    thats all the sh1te a certain mr all dyce used to collate all freakin sh1te

  • 413 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    …you know when you expand to Hawaii call me and I’ll come visit ;) lol

    …the Caribbean will do as well

  • 414 Indian Magpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    SAHIN any 1, he has now left liverpool. Henderson was above him, made him suicidal

  • 415 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Ibiza,
    Can you understand now where I got your humour/sarcasm mixed up with Patronising :D

  • 416 Jamesthefirst // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    And those calling for Pardew to be sacked are crazy. In the summer he told the bold he wanted a centre back and a right back, because he knows Williamson and Simpson are crap. Llambarse said no because of ‘purple zone’ players.

    And yet again this season Williamson and Simpson have got us a LOT of goals and points. Williamson in particular is one of the worst defenders I have ever seen. Always out of position.

    Pardew isn’t stupid he saw it too, hence why he wanted him replaced in the summer.

    Blaming Pardew because the board wouldn’t back him in trying to fix the weak parts of our team is bonkers.

    We are in this position because Llambarse wouldn’t back our manager and Carr. End of.

  • 417 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Jesper….For this year, just bigger within Ibiza. Plans in motion for warmer winter climates though….guess that takes Newcastle off the list.

  • 418 Jamesthefirst // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    And those calling for Pardew to be sacked are crazy. In the summer he told the board he wanted a centre back and a right back, because he knows Williamson and Simpson are crap. Llambarse said no because of ‘purple zone’ players.

    And yet again this season Williamson and Simpson have cost us a LOT of goals and points. Williamson in particular is one of the worst defenders I have ever seen. Always out of position.

    Pardew isn’t stupid he saw it too, hence why he wanted him replaced in the summer.

    Blaming Pardew because the board wouldn’t back him in trying to fix the weak parts of our team is bonkers.

    We are in this position because Llambarse wouldn’t back our manager and Carr. End of.

  • 419 Spreadthetoon // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    I think San Lorenzo will have plenty of youthful talented players which Carr could go n have a gander at. If San Lorenzo cannot afford to buy Collo the least they could do is give us a decent CB and some of their best youth players :) SIMPLES!

    As for Collo, if his heart is not in it….then sadly he should go, cos’ as a Captain we need someone who will be able to carry us to safety…..given the volume of French players in our squad……I would love to see HBA have it………passionate, ambitious and loves the toon! HBA for captain, loved by players and fans alike! Him or Cabaye…..
    Its been really frustrating of late….hope the lads perform tomorrow and get something from the game…..then we need to start landing some of these players.
    Btw Ed mentioned 10 players….well IMO we need 6 more players for 1st team and then 4 developmental players………..that’s before the Collo news.
    1 LB
    2 CB
    1 CAM
    2 ST
    With Collo leaving I would make it 3 CBs. The club cannot afford to waive a fee…..again I would welcome any good quality players from San Lorenzo as a fair exchange to both clubs.

    Pedro / Wandering Geordie
    Do either of you guys now any promising players at San Lorenzo who could cut it out in the EPL?

  • 420 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    John Tudor and Catchy
    Results are stats boys.

  • 421 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    …I need a special price mate it not really blue-collar prices we are talking here ;) lol

  • 422 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8391020/?

  • 423 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    no results are achievements stats are sh1t

  • 424 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    tommy gibb covered 60000000000 blades of grass every season theres a freakin stat not worth a light

  • 425 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Jesper….The Caribbean you say…..don’t you think that may encourage us to do something silly like pretend we’re pirates? :)

    Jail…. Well I’ve forgotten what the topic or comment was the other day, but yeah, I can see that…certainly not the first time my “humour” would have been misinterpreted :)

  • 426 HullMag6 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    I hope its genuinely personal and we let him go and we rebuild. He isn’t the player he was last two seasons as beattie said the heads gone which makes me think home issues at play here. It’s just bad timing, all worst possible scenarios are all happening st once.

    Mike needs to sign two top quality cbs and make sure willo is 4th choice at best.

  • 427 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Does anyone know if the Argies have transfer window til end of January like us? If so, we should say to Colo, you can leave, if we secure replacement.

    If it finishes earlier, could be difficult.

  • 428 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Ibiza…now why would you get that idea ;) lol

  • 429 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Well according to Sky looks likes Sissoko is not coming in this window.

  • 430 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    Jesper….All my rates are set to allow me nufcblog time – sorry and all, but needs must :)

    Joking aside, main season is pretty fixed, but April – May or October some good deals to be had.

  • 431 JackButler // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    This window could be the bleakest yet

  • 432 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    and many more may possibly decide not too and more may decide to leave this is too too much

  • 433 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Jesper…No idea cap’n :)

  • 434 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    James tf
    Despite my earlier comments on the next three games, in which I standfast I totally agree with what you said there earlier.

  • 435 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Ibiza…you’re going to have house guests in stead mate ;) lol

  • 436 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    But of course it’s not only thing you should rely on.

    For example, we keep talking about Willo being out of position a lot and Colo being the one covering up.

    But what if the reason Willo being out of position is because he needs to cover for Colo being much worse header.

    Looking at the stats compared to Chelsea player shows us the Willo is involved in lot more heading situation that their players, and wins a decent amount. Colo on the other hand are involved less than let say a normal CB would. So it’s obvious strategy of ours to have Willo go for all high balls and Colo covering up.

  • 437 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Jesper…..Best stock up on some rum then….

  • 438 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Can anybody remember the reason the transfer window was introduced ?

  • 439 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    you can win headers but if they go to an opponent of fm in your own net whats the point

  • 440 geoff777 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    If Pardew was unhappy with the quality of some of the squad he should have traded them. Whatever you get in you spend on direct replacements.

    No owner can object to deals that don’t cost him anything.

    Losing 12/14 and the pathetic FA Cup exit (again Alan) mean Pardew’s had lots of attempts to change our losing ways and failed miserably.

    I have no confidence in his ability to reignite this squad.
    It’s all falling apart before our eyes.

    Martinez on Monday please.

  • 441 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    james the first

    Stupidity is when you keep doing the same thing and hope for a different outcome. For example playing Cisse and Ba together in a 442 for 25+ games which never worked after playing them in a 433 which did !! He could have rotated them but no. Are arrogance and stubborness just other words for stupidity?

  • 442 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Jail….Was it to control global population by suicide?

  • 443 John Tudor // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    nope incompetence

  • 444 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    with such a slow turning defence we desperately need a sweeper not look for offsides all the time

  • 445 Toon1978 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    NUFC never fails to surprise. What a club this is. Ever since i started supporting NUFC as a young kid at the tender age of 5 there has always been a soap opera. The club is bloody cursed. For every piece of good news, we get 10 pieces of bad news. The fault does not fall on Pardew’s shoulders IMO.The fault lies with the board for their total lack of any ambition what so ever AND doing everything in their power to save a few quid. The supporters are not daft and the players are not daft, everyone can see what is going on. EVERY supporter of NUFC could have told Pards and co that the club would struggle this season if sufficient funds where not spent in the summer. For Pardew to say he did not realise how bad it would be until now is a little silly, maybe a little GREEN as the saying goes, me thinks he is afraid at them at the top.. We have already lost our best striker and we are about to lose our best defender but it seems the club are just to relaxed about the whole situation, that we have all the time in the world to get decent quality players through the door. We do not have time on our hands unfortunately. I don’t know, maybe i am just to impatient. I just hope we get these players in asap.

  • 446 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Wow what a transfer window for nufc mashley u fat useless sack of sh@t looking like npower football next season so get your cheque book out tight w@nker

  • 447 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    If there is dressing room discontent then it is time for a new manager.

  • 448 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Not saying I wouldn’t prefer more well rounded defender than Willo but it might be that he would fit better playing together with someone who is also better in the air.
    That way he could stay in his position and that might compensate for some of trouble he and the team gets in once he loses a header and the chaos begin.

  • 449 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    james the first

    Cabaye has been totally wasted by pardew in a 442.

  • 450 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Geoff 77
    Completely disagree with you there, I don’t think Pards wanted rid of anyone, I for one think Williamson and Simmons make good squad players,I think he wanted more players to come in, if for example we had of had Debuchy and Douglas last summer and they didn’t settle well or couldn’t have raised their games a bit the fore two mentioned could have easily stepped in to their places.

  • 451 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    P

    That should have happened 5 games ago

  • 452 spennymoor-mag // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    I can see this season ending up in tears again.
    Our captain wants out. Our manager is a fu**ing nugget our owner is a greedy fat twa* our director is a knob!! Just fatal ingredients these are. What the fu** is going on behind the scenes at nufc. Like people say hba cabaye and co will be next to leave. It’s a fact that our club is just jinxed with bad luck. R.I.P nufc

  • 453 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    The fact that the Colo story has been floating around for a while, suggests the club new about him wanting out. And they still haven’t bought a centre back. The whole situation stinks.

  • 454 nick_9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Have to say I think a lot of the players lost faith in Pardew after the last window, many players wanted to see a few extra players come in. I think signing Debuchy and a few extra players will restore the faith though and hopefully have us playing nice football. The next three games are very important.

    As for collo, I’m of the opinion he will only have a couple more years left so I would let him leave if it works out financially for us, his 70k wages would pay for two other players wages so its just the transfer fee. I refuse to believe we haven’t scouted at least 5 good cb’s with us needing one so surely we can find one to replace Willo and collo. I’m unaware if the argentine club are rich/poor but I they could stump up 5/6 mill I personally would take it and buy a younger player.

  • 455 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    450, well that is easy in retrospect. I don’t think many fancied him for the job in the first place.

    But yes, at the point the board knew there was serious and irreconcilable dressing room discontent (supposing there is of course) they should have taken action.

  • 456 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    tequila

    what’s the point of keeping an unhappy player.
    his head’s clearly gone at the minute

  • 457 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Not sure I understand the Martinez love some have Wigan have never really been out of trouble under him, his players show very little fight and he preferred to stay there than go to Liverpool so his ambition must be called into question

    I wouldn’t be happy if he replaced Pards personally

  • 458 geordie157 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    If Colo does leave, my main worry is the replacement won’t have prem experience but I can’t see us going for a hangeland type as he’d be considered too old. so they’d likely be from ligue one or Holland. Alderweireld and Sakho then?

  • 459 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    There’s always Sol Campbell…

  • 460 mattyNUFC // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    ok, just a simple question for pro-Pardewers, out of curiosity (ie not meaning to be smug or incite further sectarian division, promise)

    If Pardew HAS lost the dressing room, do you think it would then be time for a change considering our current predicament and the ever-closer potentiality of relegation?

  • 461 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    I’m presuming the stats on the official site are pretty good, looking at appearances in PL and domestic cups just doesn’t seem right or possible.

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Appearances/0,,10278~201210278,00.html

    Ferguson has had more starts and overall appearances than Sammy in both the PL and cups.

    Steven Taylor has managed nearly as many starts and performances in the league as Colo.

    There are more that have taken me somewhat by surprise tbh. I have backed claims that injuries have played a reasonably big part in this seasons problems and I know this isn’t an injury table, but based on how many starts and sub appearances a fair few of our “big hitters” have not featured for a bug chunk of our games. It simply has to account for some of the issues – to be clear, not all of the issues.

  • 462 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    nick 9

    The debacle of last summer’s transfer window was more down to the board than the coaching staff. Pardew and Carr had multiple targets lined up but the club refused to budge on their valuations and wouldn’t provide more cash.

    That’s why you have Ashley suddenly taking action by giving Alan more money and setting aside a fund for new youth/development players.

  • 463 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Reports may be suggesting that Newcastle have already reached a pre-contract agreement with Toulouse midfielder Moussa Sissoko, but he claims he will wait until the end of the season before making a decision on his future.

    From Sky, wonder if this means he will sign if we stay up but won’t if we go down. Even though completely reasonable he might not want to start off his career with the fans knowing he only came to play PL

  • 464 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Rotanda, ,None,but we still need a replacement for him before he leaves, He would not be the first player to have “personal problems”. Would you be happy if he left without a replacement signed ?

  • 465 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Matty….Obviously not as straight cut as that, but if he has lost the dressing room then yes he would have to be moved on.

  • 466 Sazzer // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    PSG is not your normal french club any longer. Sakho would only leave it if they buy another defender. If he isn’t better than Alex, why should we get him?

  • 467 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Ibiza

    I don’t know another top club that lost their entire starting midfield to injury. Injuries have definitely been the major factor in the second quarter of the season. The first quarter was Pardew’s poor tactics. Now our build up play is better but our defense is abysmal.

    We have intermittently been the most injury stricken team in the PL, and with our lack of depth that’s catastrophic.

    Ryan and Steven have been guaranteed long term injuries for the last 2 seasons now.

  • 468 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    matty – yes.

    Though I have always considered Pardew as mediocre I did support him.

    If he has lost the dressing room, it’s time to go for the good of the club.

    You know we are a big club in terms of fan base and we really should be getting very good managers wanting to come to St James to prove their worth.

    Of course there are a number of reasons for that and they do need to be addressed.

  • 469 iggystinger // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    our nxt three games are huge but for talkin sake say we draw or lose to norwich and dont pick up maximum points at home too reading which we should and villa who have only won 3 home games out the last 20 odds do u think pardew will be givin the sack

  • 470 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Matty, that is a big if . IMO he has not lost the dressing room and even with this latest Colo thing the problems seem to be non football related.

  • 471 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    @468 who knows with Ash but if we do not get at least 4 points from the next 9, he should be moved on.

    2 or 3 points would simply not be good enough.

  • 472 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Ibiza…if you’re going to open that cane of worm then best check any team outside the top 6 and see if we are worse for wear ;)

    …by the way Rhum is no problem! I’ll stock up lol

  • 473 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Its Jan 11th have we even put a formal bid for anybody its actually atrocious…..we are about to lose Colo we lost BA we dont have any CBs we dont have a LW we dont have a ST we are paper thin and Ashley is still greedy amazing…

  • 474 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    rom a West ham perspective

    * * * * *

    Tomkins on his way to Newcastle
    I can’t see it myself. Allardyce would leave himself desperately short of cover in the centre of defence unless he has a replacement lined up. And, at the end of the day, Tomkins is not what Newcastle need.

    Talkbollocks are trying to convince us that the rumour they started last week is true but I would say it is strong odds against personally.

    Am I concerned as a West Ham fan? To be honest no, providing we source a reasonable replacement. Tomkins has not, in horse racing parlance, trained on. He will always be limited by lack of pace and I fancy he will never be more than a Premiership squad player, sadly.

  • 475 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    iggy I would say Pardew could be sacked but Ashley’s recent actions have suggested him and the board are conceding that they weren’t supportive enough last summer.

    But if we get no points from these next few games there’s definitely a strong case.

  • 476 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    I don’t know if anyone has been on ‘I wish I was Geordie’ website

    people are posting that colo wants to go home because his family have went home:

    ‘colo has been caught playing away from home his wife has left the country hence he wants to suddenly go home’

    Ain’t know if it is true – but usually no smoke without fire.

    He had a blinder against the Mackem. Since then he has looked out of sorts and at fault for a couple of goals since

  • 477 nick_9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    I agree Norcal but a lot of players wanted signings and we didn’t get them, couple that with Alan saying we would go at it with what we have because he thinks we have enough cover and it looks like he’s calling the shots and grouping himself with the two upstairs who don’t want to spend. We had Ben Arfa into summer saying with a couple of additions we could challenge for the title, imagine how he feels with another year wasted.

    Had a look at San Lorenzo and their best spend is 3.5m euros around 5 years back so we would get peanuts for collo. Where do we stand if a quits? Any protection?

  • 478 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    tequila

    there’s no none so blind as can not see

  • 479 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Rotonda…there are Chinese whispers about a Simmo + cash deal for Tomkins and W’Ham being interested in Distin :)

  • 480 LewSpi v2.0 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    I just don’t understand. It doesn’t seem too complicated. The last time we played Norwich away, we played 2 fullbacks at CB, this is now the 3rd transfer window since then and we still haven’t bought one.

    It’s incomprehensible, I just can’t get my head around it. We now have 3 CB’s, one spends half the season injured, one can’t play football and one wants to be in a different country all together.

    What will it take for Dekka and Fat Mike to sanction a move for a CB? Lets forget about the last two transfer windows, it was glaringly obvious for months that a CB had to be signed this window, we’re now 11 days into the window and still no player? Like I said, it’s unfathomable, can’t get my head around it.

  • 481 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Jesper…I can’t imagine a worm cane would be very supportive :)

    I’m not suggesting when comparing to other teams that we shouldn’t be doing better (I would be inclined to guess we have had bigger issues, but will let it slide as I can’t be bothered to do sufficient research), but that people dismissing injury as a part of our problems are being slightly stubborn imo.

    For the avoidance of doubt, this is not be blaming all of our woes on injury.

    I need a drink, when are you arriving? :)

  • 482 Ben_BKK // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12028/8391083/Sky-Sports-Scout

    Sky Sports scout on Isimat-Mirin. They think he’s a good player.

  • 483 Jail for Ashley // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    89coral,
    Where exactly did you come up with the fact that Mashley is now giving Pards more money was it from the thread Ed posted earlier.

  • 484 5Danny94 // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Pardew will probably ask Colo to stick around until the summer and then let him go on his merry way back to Argentina. He seems like a lovely bloke and I wouldn’t hold it against him if he left. He also comes across as a complete professional so I have no worries that he’ll put his heart and soul in to the match tomorrow. It’s the effect it’ll have on the other players that worries me…

    Worryingly, if Coloccini leaves we’ll almost certainly have to put up with a few more years of Williamson. We all know Taylor can only manage a dozen or so games a season and so selling Williamson would just be foolish. I hope young Remie Streete is picking up everything he can from Coloccini because I reckon he’ll be in the squad in a couple of years – mainly because I find it difficult to believe that we’ll actually sign more than one centre-back.

    Who’s your money on to be the next captain though? I can’t see it being Jonas because I don’t think he’s far from being a guaranteed starter anymore, and with a fully fit squad the same goes for Williamson. Taylor’s too injury prone. I was thinking about Krul, but his organisation of the defence needs a lot of improvement so I’d worry about him organising an entire team. Tiote has the grit and determination but his discipline is too poor and he often loses his rag at the other players if they aren’t pulling their weight. I suppose that would leave Cabaye as the obvious option

  • 485 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Jesper I did post some info which looked at injuries over the season and awarded a point for every week a player was out. Newcastle were top with 147 and only Arsenal from memory was close to that figure.

  • 486 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    nick 9

    Yes way I look at it, that was a move by Pardew to reassure the team in spite of only signing 1 senior player, and when he didn’t sort out Ba and Cisse and the injuries came, it all went up in flames and players like Colo saw just how fragile we were.

    But there must be something other than our results on Colo’s mind, for a seasoned captain to fall out like this. Maybe Pardew is barring him from transferring to Argentina? I’ve been in some really shit teams before, but as a captain you don’t pack up and leave even if you don’t agree with the manager. There’s more at stake than your own personal conflict with 1 man. He has to be a leader.

  • 487 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Rotonda I am genuinely confused by your response. I only said we needed a replacement for Colo if he leaves, hardly the most contentious of arguments I would have thought. Can you clarify for me if you would be happy to see him go without being replaced?

  • 488 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    WWYCD

    What a strange comment. Martinez has kept wigan up on a shoestring playing fantastic football for 3 years now. he’s performed miracles with no money at all and with the least supported club in the premiership. prior to wigan he got he swansea ball rolling.

    if martinez was here he’d actually coach Simmo and willo to pass the ball whcih seems beyond pardew.

  • 489 mattyNUFC // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    ugh. Tomkins….that’s completely underwhelming and moreover pretty disheartening if he’s our CB savior

    p

    on sissoko, why would that be bad? If i was good enough, i’d rather play PL than 2nd division any day of the week

    tequila

    really no way to tell. the pardew outers (some of them) will blame ba and colo on pardew, the pro-pardewers will say it was all circumstantial. i personally think it is a bit to do with both, the board’s lack of real investment this summer simply confounding the reality.

    oh this is all really difficult to swallow. awful foresight not to invest this summer from the board. despicable tactics and PR stunts from the manager, a group of rutterless, heartless players on the books

    in my mind, you can’t change MA. he’s here for only as long as he knows. The one variable in this is AP. 12 defeats in 14 is appalling, injuries or otherwise. never a come from behind victory is sad. not a goal from a set piece in what, nearly 400 set pieces? Some may want him to stay on…i clearly want him out but i do admit the powers that be seem to unite against him, but, he- to me- seems to be losing it big time now. If it’s even a question of making the change, do it now. if cabaye under-performs as he is quite susceptible to (whether it’s down to him or managerial tactics aside), i don’t think AP has it in him to rally the troops to stave off relegation. this is looking grimmer and grimmer

  • 490 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Jail

    Ed has posted about it but I’m inferring from Pardew’s public calls for support from the board in December, followed by his announcements that we are serious now about bringing in more players.

    I don’t recall this kind of conviction last summer, when most of us were so ignorant as to suggest “We won’t be held to ransom” or “We won’t pay more than a player’s worth”. We were all still high from last season.

  • 491 Rotonda heights // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    tequila

    I think that was just a general comment on how you seem to live in total denial re – all matters pardew as if he is totally blamelss ine very aspect..

    Your colo comment was retrospective. Of course we would need a replacement. That’s not what you initially said though is it? You just said we shouldn’t let colo go?

  • 492 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    So Arsenal have targeted Remy…

    That could be that.

  • 493 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Rotonda
    He’ll teach them to pass the ball around joyus then he can safely guide us to barely avoid relegation season upon season. As for fantastic football? When? They can pass a ball but do nothing with it in what way is that fantastic

  • 494 Ben_BKK // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    On a lighter note I see Debuchy has replaced Ba on the banner. Is that actually a picture of him in a toon shirt though or has someone photoshopped his neck and head onto a picture of someone else lol. It looks like too much of an action shot to be him to me :P

  • 495 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Matty for me I will cut Pardew less slack when he is able to bring in his own people in defence. It`s the area we have really struggled this season but apart from Santon he is still using the same defenders he inherited 2 years ago.

  • 496 Munster Mag // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Apparently he is leaving as his wife has left him – rumour? Well as the song goes Colo, you can shag my wife ! :)

  • 497 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    “ugh. Tomkins….that’s completely underwhelming and moreover pretty disheartening if he’s our CB savior”

    could not agree more, a Willo type player nothing special this transfer window is the window….its a window that could show that BA indeed did the right thing, its a window that will make me sorry for the likes of HBA Cabaye Tiote and Debuchy…

    Its a window that could almost dare I say it steer me away from NUFC because if Ashley is going do bury this club with mediocrity and one a a half bloddy signing this year, I dont want to get disappointed any more….

    This window will prove 100% what is happening behind the scenes, and so far its looking sour.

    and to be honest cant blame Ba and Colo and the rest.

  • 498 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Munster…. :)

  • 499 nick_9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Norcal Colo seems like a genuine guy so if his wife has taken his kids and left him I could see it effecting him and that could explain his performances. If he could hold out until the summer it would be great but it depends how he is going to play if he stays.

    If the argentine team could stump up a couple of million it could very well be put towards a player like Mirin with the wages we would be saving. Colo is on approximately 3.5m a year. We was already in the market for a defender anyway so surely we could get two for 10m+ any money from colo leaving? It would be risky replacing both cb’s but if it needs to be done it needs to be done, it could be a blessing.

    Ben – that sky link value Mirin at 8 million currently with a potential of 18 million, sounds promising.

    Striker, cb and another cb if colo leaves please mr Ashley. We still don’t have a net spend so some money must be there.

    Sissoko in the summer sounds promising on a free, transfer market have his value at 13 million.

  • 500 mattyNUFC // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    wwycd

    pardew aside, how you can even insinuate Martinez isn’t one of the best managers in the league is beyond me…..he has a mixture of L1, championship and PL quality that has only this season become more respectable in terms of playing personnel. you say they can pass but do nothing with the ball? what about when they put four past us last year? remember this year before they went down to ten men? 12 minutes but they hustled us the entire 12 minutes….they even had more possession and more attempts on goal than us after they went a man down.

  • 501 proudtobageordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    evening gents
    RUMOUR has it that several young kids have been turning up on his door with long curly hair, his wife said so that s what that song is about and of she flew lol

  • 502 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Rotando save you the bother of reading my post as you clearly never read it correctly first time
    , I wrote this.
    Having said that his form has been below his best and if we can get someone better then it may not be such a bad thing.

    So not really retrospective is it.

  • 503 proudtobageordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    are you about MR TUFF

  • 504 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    nick 9
    That would be tough to contend with then. Would be nice if San Lorenzo compensated us well but with the way things are going, I wouldn’t count on it :)

    But I agree with you, having 2 new centerbacks would be better than 1 poor one and 1 who doesn’t feel like being here.

  • 505 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Matty
    A couple of good performances doesn’t make them a great team nor him a great manager, when was the last time Wigan weren’t in trouble?

    He’s not a bad manager but he’s not brilliant either he plays simple triangles, lots of sideways/backwards passes and sets his team up to stop others being able to get the ball minimal attacks and looks draw most of their PL games

  • 506 two steps forward one step back // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    If Colo has been playing away then that’ll be Pardew’s fault too I suppose

  • 507 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Two Steps….Absolutely….I can hear it….

    “Colo, we’re both winners and winners mess around with other women”

    Actually, it’s probably down to Ashley or Llambias. They tricked him in to sleeping around so his wife would leave him, then he would want to terminate his contract and leave saving the club his wages.

    How did I not see it before?

  • 508 LewSpi v2.0 // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    We haven’t won away from home in the Premiership for 8 months and we’ve never came from behind to win a game under Pardew.

    That’s hard to digest.

  • 509 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Ibiza…when are you opening your new office in the Caribbean ;) lol

    …I’ll probably have to save guard my own arse here and make it clear that just because I don’t think injuries or lack of transfers are the main (I am picking two here Ibiza ;)) reason for our bad form, they of course play a part in the bigger picture :)

  • 510 nick_9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Colo wasn’t supposed to take the damn song literally!

    But you’re right, Pardew out for encouraging adultery

  • 511 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Quote of the day courtesy of Ibiza:

    “Colo, we’re both winners and winners mess around with other women”

    lol

  • 512 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    LewSpi….It certainly is and I’m pro Pardew.

    Jesper….I’ll keep you updated. Does the crows nest have wifi?

    So greedy with your reasons, to have more than one reason would show you’ve thought about the situation and that’s simply unacceptable. Give your head a shake! ;)

  • 513 two steps forward one step back // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    So that’s why they’ve spent four days a week on defensive coaching…

  • 514 Indian Magpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    The Google Fact™ ?@thegooglefact
    Someone commits suicide every 40 seconds.

  • 515 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Ibiza…it sure does ;)

    …I know and it is so unlike me…by the way heard a song the other (well it’s a while back though) called Miami 2 Ibiza by the Swedish House Mafia (it’s House music) not by style but very Ibiza I would think!

    …does it ring a bell?

  • 516 hotdog // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Indian. I’ll be one of those seconds when I see willo give a goal away again on Saturday. Nice chatting to you all though ;-)

  • 517 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Read that about Colo shagging around earlier. Apparently he’s on jeremy kyle on Monday. Lie detector test. Catchy’s in the audience. He blames Pardew.

  • 518 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Jesper…Yeah, I may have heard it once or twice :)

    Huge song over here….those bloomin’ swedes….

    Two Steps…That can’t be right as hoofing the ball takes up 5 days a week in training, one day for a game…really there is not much time for anything else except maybe set plays….

  • 519 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    proud -evening anything of interest happening.

  • 520 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Not really a fan of Tomkins at west ham. He’s in the overated english bunch in my opinion.

  • 521 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Matty……and Wwycd

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20491428

    That’s the report of our game with Wigan. We had more shots and more possession so no, Wigan didnt do better with 10 men.

    Martinez is a decent manager. One of the best in the league? No.

    He is a continental version if pardew.

    We have a lot of average British managers, pardew, Bruce, Hughes, houghton..they all play a team with a structures defence and look to build. Be a combination of direct and a pass when available.

    Then you have mangers like Martinez, they are a dime and dozen in Spain, France, etc

    Martinez isn’t that good for one reason. He may get his team to play good passing football but they don’t really get anywhere. When they do attack they leave themselves massively open and end up shipping goals.

    They get the odd good result and somehow manager to survive….but he isn’t that good, nothing special.

    If he was that good a lot more clubs would have seriously persued him by now.

  • 522 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Belfast…Love it. Jeremy Kyle: NUFC edition.

    Actually quite surprised we don’t have a Jeremy Kyle figure on here…any takers?

    I noticed we had someone on recently whose profession was dealing with suicide prevention…was it Shane? The Blog has needed him for a good long while

  • 523 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    John Anderson just talking on BBC Radio Newcastle

    Colocinni’s – is a personnel problem only. He does not want to go to any other club in this country – has no problem with the manager and Pardew. He will captain the Toon tomorrow.
    The player and the club have been in talks for the last 10 days

  • 524 proudtobageordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    have you heard anything regarding marin and douglas being revealed next week

  • 525 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Think I remember reading that Martinez turned down Liverpool because he wanted full control of incoming players. Even the kids they were bringing into the academy.

  • 526 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    proud -I don’t think Marin or Douglas have been mentioned recently.

  • 527 proudtobageordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    523 was for you mr tuff

  • 528 alf // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Thats the star striker gone next Colocini and Santon will be off and we still have half the season to go also Ben Arfas angling for a move and its all down to this clueless clown Pardew not pushing Ashley to strengthen the team in the summer. He has to follow Colocini out of the club!

  • 529 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Sage
    My point to a tee mate. Decent manager but he’s not a really a big step up for me, seems anyone who teaches his squad to make only two yard passes is rated to a over the top extent though

  • 530 BelfastMagpie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Was that shane guy wearing a white coat by any chance ?

  • 531 tequilamag // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Alf , you seem to be remarkably misinformed, what are your sources?

  • 532 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    The guy hasnt handed in a transfer request so doesnt want to leave on bad terms…still hope we can cut a deal with him….give is 5 more months, then we will release you. Reasonable from both sides that would be, understand hes got personal issues, but as captain of newcastle he has some responsibility to not ask to be released for nothing half way through a season.

  • 533 mattyNUFC // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    TS, WWYCD

    fair enough on the stats

    still feel he’d be a massive improvement on Pardew personally, and his ability to manage and play well, imo, is only surpassed by the gentleman he is.

  • 534 proudtobageordie // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    mr tuff

    thats why i think its more likley IMO little whispers flying about

  • 535 Geordie-Jake // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_newcastle

  • 536 Mister Tuff // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    proud – Are we talking about Marko Marin – do we anticipate any potential news about him and Douglas?

  • 537 WWYCD // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Matty
    Think we are just going to have to disagree mate, I just don’t rate him much higher than what we have. Plenty better out there we should be after IF Pards were to be off

  • 538 alf // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    As soon as Pardew says players are staying they are off !

  • 539 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Everyone getting a bit white stuff this weekend? Was that link for the right station? Big party this weekend for you locals?

  • 540 Newcastle for alltid // Jan 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    I’ve already said what I think of Ba leaving – not to bitter, after all football is a job. Yes, he should have stayed with us to get us out of this terrible run and fight relegation, but done is done – we have Cissè to use in the middle who is arguably a better finisher than Ba on a good day.

    If Colo leaves it would be a massive blow for us. I don’t like to see players kept at a club against their will, so if he’s got a personal crisis of some sorts, let him go. He doesn’t do it out of greed, San Lorenzo finished 11th in the Argentine League last season, so not a destination if it’s more money and glory he wants. I do not say that I believe in him wanting to go, but if he does, let him go! He stayed with us when we got relegated, which speaks volumes of him as a footballer and a person.

    But IF he leaves, Pardew would pick this team as a first 11 without any injuries:

    Krul
    Debuchy – Williamson – Saylor – Santon
    Tiote – Anita
    Ben Arfa – Cabaye – Gutierrez
    Cissè

    I’m pretty sure that would be Pardews first eleven at the moment. A decent eleven, even though I would use Marveaux insetad of Gutierrez and Perch instead of Williamson. Based on a first eleven perspective we should then buy a CB to replace Williamson and a LW to replace Gutierrez IMO, since they’re far from good enough at the moment. Williamson is playing in a far better league than he should, and Gutierrez is past his prime.

    So the conclusion is that we need at least two top signings to have a competitive first eleven. We also have poor cover in case of injuries. The likes of Bigirimana, Tavernier, Ferguson, Sammyobi, Ranger, Amalfitano shouldn’t be playing Premiership football as of now. They can’t be the “next in line” when we have first team injuries. Out of the preferred backups Obertan is decent on his day, Marveaux technical and good, Perch OK, Shola decent as a sub, Simpson poor. Other than that we have the continuously injured Gosling, Vuckic, Raylor etc, who really isn’t good enough for a top side even when their healthy
    The leap between our starters and our reserves are far too big. Competition is none-existent. With a topped side we can beat anyone. With a reserve’ish side we`re fighting relegation.

    So conclusively, in my opinion we need to buy both starters and reserves who are all of so high skill level that they can compete for positions. We need two CB’s, a defensive midfielder and two wingers/strikers, thats five signings to accompany Debuchy. Six in total. Ashley will never spend the money to buy what we need, but it’s the harsh reality – we don’t have the depth, or the first team to be a top side.

  • 541 two steps forward one step back // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Ibiza

    Told u someone would blame Pards if Colo had been playing away !

    Thank you alf for your post. It restores my faith in Toon fans.

    Pardew to blame for not prising open Batman’s purse !! That’s a new one.

  • 542 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Alf..happened once with carroll, what you chatting.

    Was always open about ba and has learned since carroll, he has never said anyone is defo staying since.

    Your just looking for something to moan about. And ben arfa wants to leave? Where you getting that from apart from maybe some 12 yr old on twitter.

  • 543 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    WWYCD/Sage
    Have too agree martinez is a good manager but not great
    IF we got rid of pardew which i dont think we will, for me he’d be a sideways step

  • 544 stuart no9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    probably a godsend for collo. gets him away from a club, where he dosnt fancy another couple of seasons in the fizzy league. he can leave now with no guilt. Whats going to happen next season with cabeye, bennie cisse, they wont want to play in that league, so they are going to be gone anyway ! can anyone remind me what this ” 5 year ” plan was ????

  • 545 boater // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Transfer sage – He’s also played through countless injuries and discomfort for the good of the team down the years, and whilst he lacks mobility, the laziness accusation is a lazy forum cliche for people looking for someone to kick.

    I don’t care if our players chase around all day or not- this isn’t the conference league. To me Ben Arfa tracking back is completely bonkers- it’s a waste of his talents and galling to see him skip past two player in our own half when he should be doing that in the final third.
    What is your point? Tevez and Messi run all day as their physical form allows it. Comparing players with completely different physiological attributes is completely absurd. Ibrahimovic, Berbatov, Kanu, Tino, Adebayor, Eto don’t run around like Tevez because they’re bodies are not suited to it, and the team gains nothing from it either.

  • 546 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Does anyone else think that alf is awfully similar to the billy/bob/ted/eric/jeff mackem that keeps polluting the blog infrequently.

    On topic:

    Don’t think we can fault Colo if he truly wants to move to Argentina for personal reasons, but unless it is life or death, surely he can tough it out until the summer. If it really is that urgent then I hope the club have upped their efforts considerably in an attempt to bring in not only one CB but 2 CBs at least.

  • 547 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Contemplating a ‘Captain Colo’ sign for the game tomorrow….but really cant be arsed with the effort…ill jus sing his name instead

  • 548 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Stuart

    Your comment is implying that Colo is making up these personal problems in an attempt to get out of the club. Does that sound like the fiercely loyal captain that Colo has been? Would it be like him to be that underhand and deceitful? Would he not stand and fight for the club like he did when we were originally relegated? If he wanted to leave he would stand up and say it like the honest and forward man he is.

    Your implication is putting the man down, making him out to be a sneak and a rat and I sincerely hope you don’t think that is what Colo is. He embodies everything NUFC and whatever his reasons are they must be serious for him to want to leave. Little more thought please.

  • 549 two steps forward one step back // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    stuart9

    there is the little problem of Colo being worth £8-10m to be overcome before he can be transferred.

    I’d be inclined to give him compassionate leave on basic pay to sort out his personal problems, hope he can sort it, and transfer him in the summer if he can’t.

    Meanwhile we need another quality CB, so that’s two plus one squad standard – or a left sided LB who can play CB

  • 550 alf // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    Robby robson and the to steps back fool you should form a double act as your both thick just the sort of mugs Ashley sees coming!

  • 551 darrenfletcher88 // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    What made up crap is going on the day???

  • 552 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Boater

    It’s not about running around constantly or tracking back.

    Just read what I write, the whole thing.

    Last post to you a you don’t read properly.

    It’s about doing a job. Top teams press to win the ball back. Players in these teams do that.

    Other than berbatov all those players still pres the ball. Not I say press the ball not track back. Big difference

    I agree Ben arfa is wasted tracking back. Has to come too deep sometimes.

    But all the best teams in Europe press very well in all areas of the pitch with all players.

    If you don’t you give people too much time to pick passes and exploit you.

    I don’t care if shola played through injuries, respect for doing it but simple thing is it has ruined him. He strolls around and does no where near enough in closing down other teams defence.

  • 553 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Ah shoot down your nonsense ramblings with facts on how your wrong so im a mug….brilliant.

  • 554 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Matty

    Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t be unhappy if he was our manager. But he wouldn’t fill me with confidence on us transforming our season.

    Happy to be be proved wrong if he did get the job

  • 555 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    alf you contribute literally zero to this blog.

  • 556 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Wonder if adam campbell looks at the blog to see his story had 550 comments…must feel popular.

  • 557 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Who in the right mind would let colo shag them good player but one ugly mother looks like Phil Thompson from sky sports or he could have 12 incher ha!

  • 558 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    I see West Ham just completed their 4th signing of the transfer window

  • 559 stuart no9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    ruddy – never said what you are implying. i said ” probably a godsend ” where did i say he was making it up ??? little more reading please!!

  • 560 p // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    @556 you haven’t seen the lass, she might be a complete guffer

  • 561 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Ruddy – Alf is indeed billybobted I outed him the other day and he came back with his old ‘your patter is still s***’ retort. mackem troll.

    Sorry couldnt leave the blog alone but still resolved not to talk about you-know-col-who.. ;)

  • 562 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    On other news, according to mark douglas sissokos agent in toon today.

  • 563 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Twitterington villas is going into NUFC meltdown with world plus hound selling all our purples off in a championship fire sale. makes for an exciting month.

  • 564 Robby Bobson // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Also represents bordeuxs diabate who bagged two against us i believe….he was massive to be fair.

  • 565 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Stuart

    Look into the content of your comment, that it was a godsend for Colo that he leaves now as he would have no guilt when we get relegated. If you cannot see what that comment implies then I am afraid there is little more to talk about.

  • 566 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    Aubameyang and Sissoko are playing each other right now in Ligue 1: St. Etienne vs Toulouse

  • 567 89Norcal // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Here’s link to the stream
    http://www.vipbox.tv/football/118745/1/saint-etienne-vs-toulouse-live-stream-online.html

  • 568 Toon1978 // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Any good news fellas lol?

  • 569 Tsunki // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    toon1978 – yes mate. Sissoko is an ideal replacement for Cabaye.

  • 570 hotdog // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    The soap opera that is Newcastle united eh! When will the new characters be on set. Another day has gone. We will get beat at Norwich, debuchy is not enough to shore up that defense.

  • 571 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Tsunki

    A noble resolution, one I think you’ll struggle to keep to I fear as it will be the solitary talk of the blog until we get some confirmation from club or Colo with regards what is going to happen in this window.

  • 572 two steps forward one step back // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    alf @549

    Congratulations on your competence in written English.
    Derr

  • 573 stuart no9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    ruddy – classic example of someone reading something and rephrasing to suit their own ends. its called-bidirectional textual entailment.

  • 574 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Boater

    Nothing personal. Enjoy your posts usually.

    Just nothing to be gained with us both going over the same stuff

  • 575 numba9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    ashley is the tyrant that flirted with relegation and lost out to it a few years ago by not speculating to accumulate, he is doing it again and there is no gaurentee on a swift return if atall. i thought the highr u finish in the prem gets a rise in cash????? well not signing players and spending some means missing out on the cash and getting in the relegation mire, ASHLEY AND LAMBS ARSE OUT OF OUR CLUB

  • 576 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Stuart

    Call it what you like, the implication was pretty clear, Colo can jump ship now to save him jumping ship in the summer when we get relegated.

    If he was in fact jumping ship what is this whole talk about “personal reasons”? Well if you are taking the view that he is jumping ship then you are clearly ignoring the fact that he wants to leave due to these personal reasons vis a vie in your view he is making it up.

    Now, having arrived at this point in your implication, one could assume that you believe that Colo is a character that would jump from a club when they are in trouble rather than tough it out and it is this implication that I take exception to as he has proved that he is the type of man to do exactly the opposite.

    Go re-read your original comment and if you feel that your original comment doesn’t give off that implication then fair enough, however I feel I have amply demonstrated that it does.

  • 577 Twatter // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Good article with info on Moussa Sissoko:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1478798-scouting-moussa-sissoko-rumoured-newcastle-transfer-target

  • 578 ONLINE GUY // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Colo’s bit Skirt up in Cramlington has a hell ov a 70′s welcome mat…I told her to get a Brazilian ..She said ” I prefer Argentinian’s”

    Well Lad’s it seems like we are going to loose a
    £10 million quid player ..and was it all because he was thinking with his tadger ?

    If it was mind I would have no F**ing sympathy with him and make him play out his contract ..He’s on Loads of money ..And we should not give him away because of his own mistake ..

    Iv got no Sympathy whatsoever if he has brought this all on himself ..Its not Newcastle United’s fault if he cant keep his Tadger in his Pants…supposing this is the case ..which it might not be.

    Saying all that ..we all like a bit of Skirt lad’s eh?

  • 579 stuart no9 // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    ruddy- there you go again ” where did i say he was “jumping ship” you cant help yourself can you?????haha so now ive said ” hes making it up-and hes jumping ship . a few more and youll have yourself a different story.

  • 580 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    @ruddy stop using logic in arguments. only a stuck up prick would do that…….
    real ruddy! its you! this proves it! lol

    are you still flying the optimism/pardite flag or are you waning yet?

  • 581 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Stuart

    Do you understand what the word “imply” means? Just because you didn’t say the exact phrase doesn’t mean the inference isn’t there. Like talking to a bloody monkey.

  • 582 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    PPB

    How do my friend? :)

    It’s a dangerous time to be optimistic and I must say that I have abandoned blind optimism in favour of a more “let’s give the gaffer time and money and wait and see what he does with it”…not as catchy as “optimistic” but sometimes these pigeon holes can’t be easily labelled haha

    If Pardew is given this window to bolster the squad as well as next summer and he still doesn’t improve the playing side of things with a view to be getting this club where we deserve to be then I would advocate questioning him but he hasn’t been supported by the board so it ‘s insane to consider sacking him. Still think we can carve out a decent mid table finish out of this wreckage though.

    Does that still make me a resident of optimism valley? These days I think it does haha

    Where do you stand on this season?

  • 583 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Ruddy

    Just to put the cat among the pigeons.

    If we struggle this year, even when players return, accepting that you will always have one or two out injured (much worse now with 8/9 though) do you think we should consider Pardews position?

    It’s either sign more players or get a new manager.

    If Ashley won’t sign new players, or enough of them to improve us, do you think we should find a higher calibre of manager to work with a small squad with limited reserve/back up players

    I’m all for waiting til the end if the season to judge pardew, see how he does with a close to full strength team.

  • 584 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 11, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    @ruddy im worried but see no reason why things won’t pick up with cisse up top alone. he was really sniffing at it against everyone so im sure he’ll bang a few in. to me the defence looks poor but the midield exposing them all the time makes them look even weaker. willo isn’t good enough but he’s getting no Favours from tiote. really missing cabaye.

  • 585 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 11, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Sage

    Even if he doesn’t get the best out of the players between now and the end of the season I still would be very much opposed to getting rid. I think when he signs new players he needs to be given time to let them gel, which means getting the players now, and signing players early in the summer window and have a genuinely strong side to start next season with.

    If he fails to get good football from them then, and only at this point, would I advocate questioning his position. Nothing good comes from getting rid after what is still a short run of bad results. We need to back him by signing players, no matter who we replace him with, if we don’t back our managers with cash it doesn’t matter who we bring in.

  • 586 Transfer Sage // Jan 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Ruddy

    That’s my concern though. No matter who we have in charge Ashley doesn’t seem to work in volume. One or two decent quality yes, but never enough.

    That’s why I though maybe getting a manager who is used to a small squad and how to get the best possible from everyone.

    Not saying I want him gone mind you, and I will judge in the summer, not so much league position but if it looks like we are heading the right way with style of play, players in best positions and consistency.

    But even if he went I genuinely fear who we would replace him with.

  • 587 stuart no9 // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    ruddy – i never imply anything, i say exactly what i think. so now- if anyone dosnt say the phrase – you can imply he meant something else, which can only be your perception, as someone one else can perceive it in a different way. if you chose to perceive it in a negative format that is entirely your prerogative, but dosnt make you right.and using insulting grammar only strengthens my argument.

  • 588 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Stuart

    It wasn’t my grammar that was insulting, I outright stated it. If you cannot grasp that not only your exact wording but implications from what you say can be open for debate then you will not have many meaningful discussions.

    Now you may not have implied what you did but what you did write gave an awful lot of credence to that train of thought. You implied that Colo was deliberately choosing to leave now as to avoid being labelled as a ship jumper in the summer, how can one not infer that you claim this is due to football reasons, not the personal reasons he has stated.




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