The news of yesterday is simply astonishing, that the Newcastle captain wants to leave Newcastle immediately and return home to Argentina and play for a club he was on loan at from 2000-2001 – San Lorenzo.
Fabricio Coloccini – this could be his last game for Magpies
And this just a week after Demba Ba made a hurried exit from the club to follow the money to Chelsea, and we could lose two of our best players in January, and we started off the month trying to strengthen the squad.
The big question is how can we replace Coloccini in January?
We thought there would be no way that Newcastle would let the Argentine International leave the club, but the news circulating is that the Magpies could agree to his request, and remember Colo is on £60K a week on Tyneside.
Exactly how we get a replacement in during the January transfer window is a very good question, and of course Colo has always been the settling influence in a defense, that this season has massively under-performed.
The problem is apparently due to the ill health of his wife, who has already returned to Argentina, but it’s hard to think of a case like this ever happening before – that a Newcastle captain requests to leave the club immediately in January – certainly it’s never happened at Newcastle.
The news is that the Newcastle Board will get together in the next day or two to decide what action to take, and if they allow Colo to leave Newcastle, we’ll be even more shocked than we already are.
We would think the best course of action is to tell Colo there’s no way he can leave right now, but that the club will reconsider the situation in the summer, when there’s more time to bring in a suitable replacement.
After all he is contracted to Newcastle through June of 2016.
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1 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:37 AM
excellent news! so long fabricio
2 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:37 AM
Proud – I think he played for them last night yes.
There are conflicting reports/rumours.
As I said, there are rumours we are in talks with the club/his agents,
And also a few days ago his club came out and said he would not be sold.
3 Dannyo // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:37 AM
There are news this morning that NUFC are looking to keep Colo and Colos wife’s return is imminent.
His wife had left for Argentina due to illness. My guess is she was probably homesick too and her illness was quite severe it seems.
Collo wanted to reunite the familiy i think but it could be that his wife is out of the woods.
Speculation tho.
4 Dannyo // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Also, Sissokos agent is on Tyneside. Or atleast he was yesterday.
5 Readingmag // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:40 AM
Morning, can we be factual please regards our love…
Injuries – Pardews fault NO
BA leaving No
Tactics – Yes
Kids no good enough yet – NO
King Collicini (gutted) – NO
For me if we get something out of today thats great, our season starts next week at home with a few players returning from injury. PS …We all support the same team black white …who cares. Changing the manager will not help.and Keegan is still my hero ..and I over 40 yrs old
6 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:41 AM
erm just to clarify the news concerning his wife is saddening. \hope she recovers. but colocinni leaving in my opinion is NOT bad news. Lets get Ismat in right away
7 Sawbuck // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM
How much can Colo make in Argentina ?
It must be a hell of a problem for him to walk away from 60k.
8 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM
Personally I don’t think collo will go anywhere, but don’t hold me to that.
There seems to be so many different reports and rumours, it just stinks of San Lorenzo trying to turn colos head and taking advantage of medical/relationship problems between colo and his wife.
Simple fact is, San Lorenzo can not afford Collocini, and we have no obligation to let him leave. We are not a charity. We can’t just give our best players away because their dad says so.
I hope I’m right, but I think this is just san Lorenzo trying to force colo to move, which is pretty sh1tty really.
As I said I personally can’t see him leaving.
9 JAMSHA // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM
If Colo Goes We Need To Call Back Good From Loan
10 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM
Toonbrother – how would losing our best defender and captain not be bad news?
Enlighten me.
11 Sir Braveheart // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:45 AM
“that a Newcastle captain has requested to leave the club immediatelt in January – certainly its not happened at Newcastle.”
Im guessing a Newcastle captain asking to leave immediately has never happened at any other club either Ed.
12 Sazzer // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:48 AM
From previous thread. He played last night, but we are supposed to have been at the game.
They might just have said that to keep other clubs away or to raise the pricetag. We will see.
13 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Jamsha
If colo go’s we need a bit more than recalling curtis good
Conaldo
If colo leaves im holding you fully responsible!!
14 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Sir Braveheart – haha aye do you not remember a couple seasons ago when Kevin Nolan suddenly asked to leave Everton?!
15 archaeomag // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM
I think Colo will go on loan to his Home club in Argentina [ where his Dad works - I think ],
I would be disappointed if fans slag him off
16 Whoarya.com // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:51 AM
Love Coli but he has a contract, had a signing on fee and should therefore honour the terms. If his wife is homesick he has the money to fly her home in a helicopter.
If she is sick the UK is one of the best places to be but if she is terminal that is a different story.
Wait until something official comes from NUFC and go from there.
In Pardiola Ashley and Co I still trust. Just
17 archaeomag // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:51 AM
@toon
Agree Good is is just a kid
It makes stories about Hangerland look more realistic
18 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM
Archaeomag
IF and a big if, colo did leave an experienced CB like hangeland would be an ideal immediate replacement and would rush us into signing a youngster and rushing him straight in
19 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM
*Wouldn’t rush us
20 mot7 // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM
replace him now we dont want players who dont want to be here . And if colos head is not on the fight he is a liability
21 Sir Braveheart // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM
@Conaldo
Wasnt there a season under Gullit where Shearer demanded a transfer from Macclesfield Town??
22 Billythefish // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Can it get much worse, Ba, Collo, one gone one supposedly going. The bench is lacking quality. We need experienced players in as soon as possible. The saving grace is we are in a transfer window, so hopefully players will arrive in the next couple of weeks.
23 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:58 AM
i think the story is true. its been reported in reputable newspapers. possible replacements for colo:
1. Ismat
2. Virgil van Dijk
3. Romagnoli
24 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 12, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Ah yes the whole Macclesfield chestnut.
25 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:02 AM
would be heartless of the board to force colo to stay. He wouldnt be leaving unless he had good reason to. Forcing him to stay would be counterproductive to team morale and will be detrimental to his onfield performances. He needs to be allowed to leave,
26 Spuggy // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM
How heartless are some people on here? He’s been a great servant to the club, a consummate professional, an excellent defender ( who was instrumental last season).
Yes he has a contract but he also has a family and is a foreigner whose homeland is half way round the world.
There are more important things than football. If he goes he will get my absolute blessing and thanks because collo wouldn’t leave unless the situation was so bad.
27 yorkshire_mag // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:05 AM
If reports are true and Collocini DOES wants to leave NUFC because of his wifes illness then he will be a massive miss to the football club and could put us in some serious shit, but at the end of the day, some things are more improtant than football! And given the commitment he has shown and how he has carried the central defence for the last few years MA needs to do the Noble thing here.
However, if it is the case that he has cheated on his missus – tough shit, you were a twat and now pay for it! HWT
28 NuttyWutty // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM
Gutted!
29 Beattie25 // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:11 AM
If his wife is so I’ll that Colo has to return home then everyone has to respect that decision. Nobody surely can be that inhumane as to put the club before family.
Credit to Colo cos if it were me, and my family was ill, I’d have gone already.
Those are the options in my eyes depending on the severity of her illness. Let me go peacefully so I can be with my wife and kids or I’ll walk out.
It’s all still rumour and hearsay atthe minute so none of us know but if it is the case above, it’s settled, Colo is off and we are powerless to stop him and we shouldn’t even try if the board have an ounce of humanity.
30 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Lets just put this into perspective, okay!
Collo came to us and took a long time to settle as did Jonas!
His first season with us was less than successful, and he was slagged off continually on this blog, if i remember correctly !
Then came the relegation, after which a lot of players left but Collo and Jonas stayed on and helped us to bounce right back up to where we belong, In the Prem !
It has never ever been about the money for Collo, and after that bad first season with us he had grown to become one of the best defenders in the League last year!
Now i am reading conflicting reports on here about a lass in Cramlington, and also about a sick wife already returned to Argentina! Some of the personal attacks on Collo which have been written on here, are just i think, below the belt when the true facts are not known!
But, if Collo wants to leave i would just let him, even if he has a contract for 3,5 years! In the few years he has been here he has been one of our best players, especially last season!
People should Stop slagging him off, on here, because i don,t think he deserves it when the true fact are not known!
31 magpie6699 // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:13 AM
yorkshire-mag – You’re not from the Bill Shankley school of thought then? (Asked by a reporter why some people seemed to treat football as a matter of life and death, he replied “Nay. It’s more serious than that, laddie!”)
32 DarloGeordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM
“The big question is how can we replace Coloccini in January?”
With Steven Taylor returning from injury that’s how!
The only way is the Cashley way, loves a gamble… Can’t even watch the match tonight am just going to wake up
In the morning and hope when I check the site Ed’s headline reads
“Newcastle Highlights” instead of lowlights for once…
Come on Cisse you can do it today and on Colo he has been a great servant but may be a blessing in disguise as he is only getting slower, balder and shorter without that Afro and the age thingy magig. Hope everyone enjoys the game, one word:
DEBUCHY!!!!!!!
33 Marty-Toon // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM
It wouldn’t have been so bad had it been Willo asking for an immediate transfer
I think we could all say YES PLEASE to that
34 Beattie25 // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM
If we were to sign Jores Okore if like to think we could get Simon Kjaer to help him settle and step into Colo’s shoes.
Excellent defender, played van Persie off the park and was available in the summer.
35 JAMSHA // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM
http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2013/01/newcastle-united-planning-for.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
36 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM
Beattie25;
There is just so much crap flying around on here at the moment.
It is extremely difficult just to know what is going on?
37 naptoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM
hmmm… few weeks ago colos dad saying colos looking for a respectable way to leave the club now being reported his wife is ill. shes also flew half way around world being ill n all nd left him with their 2 kids. im sure if i was seriously ill id want the private healthcare in britain over argentina. it seems shes so ill shes returning half way round the world imminently … reserve judgement on this one though id be inclined to tell colo hes staying till summer at least.
38 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM
i like the sound of this okore fella. ivorian born but not an african national so no AFCON-related absences every two years
39 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM
http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2013/01/starlet-gael-bigirimana-has-pa.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Agree that Bigi has been a positive this season. Really like the lad.
40 Shot Bru // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Let Colo go on compassionate grounds….it’s the right thing to do.
He has been a great servant to the club and have enjoyed watching him play the game the way it is meant to be played, especially last season.
You think of some of the jokers we have had playing for our club over the years, taking the money, not playing and leaving on a free at the end of their contract.
41 yorkshire_mag // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM
@magpie6699 No not quite. Love the game as much as I do, like anything in life family comes first!
42 Oldgit1 // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM
It’s reported on sky sports that Carlton cole has been told to look for a new club by west ham. Would not surprise me if we end up with him. AP is a fan of nimby all accounts.
43 Sir Braveheart // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM
I agree with those saying let him go, but dont just tear up the contract. He has to buy out, simply because the moment you tear up one contract you might as well forget having them. In the summer any player could say “I want to renegade on my contract, you let Colo do it”. Its a dangerouds precedent to set.
44 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:36 AM
I saw someone mentioning the idea of loaning him to them. Sounds like a good idea really, depending on what the personal reasons are.
Just gives all parties some time and options without having to lose too much face.
45 Marty-Toon // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM
MA like anyone Else would like some money back on his investment Collo is a quality defender and worth a few bob so he will probably have to wait til the summer to leave.
I understand if the wife is sick but if its because of his fooling around then he should be made honor his contract or sell to highest bidder.
46 rainrix // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Ed please drop the demba ba money line, it really just makes you sound bitter
Sooo many conflicting rumours on why colo wants to leave, it’d be helpful if the club would actually tell us something for once. Once again a matchday is going to be overshadowed by off field antics.
Just another day as a nufc supporter
47 IITianToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Right then folks. Got a bottle of Scotch, and downloaded Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You were here. Necessary precautions you know.
48 IITianToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM
That Snodgrass and Pilkington, unspectacular players but get the shit done for Norwich.
49 WWYCD // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Expecting to hear massive love for our captain today throughout the game from away suuport. If the club want to convince him they can help with his personal issues knowing a city is behind u will help a lot I’d imagine
50 bills-son // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Unless the club come out and state categorically that there is no truth in the Colo rumours then they clearly are true. Some rumours can be ignored by clubs but not this widely reported one about our club captain.
I agree with those who say if it his wife’s illness and she wants to stay in Argentina then Colo’s family future is more important than football and he should be allowed to go. The problem for Ashley is what price does he accept for being understanding?
If its true he’s got a lass pregnant and his wife has left him (why would she leave the kids here??) then he has to stay until the end of the season and give his all for the club. If he doesn’t he trains with the kids until he leaves.
51 one Tony Green // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:55 AM
I think we are all being a bit my green here his wife left because of a indiscretion in his private life she is not ill and before anyone asks I am related to one of the backroom staff and they are hoping he has managed to reconcile with his wife.
My main concern is the mackems look like they are getting Sissko for 3 million we should be in there.
52 seantoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Iltiantoon
I’ve seen alot of Anthony pilkington as he used to play for Huddersfield were I live, he’s actually a really good player. He can pick a pass or cross out with either foot and his finishing and shooting is quality. Now he’s been given his chance it’s paying off he’s only going to get better too
53 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Lets see. Ba left a team battling relegation for the current champions of european football. Im no sherlock holmes but i have a sneaky feeling he left to join a more successful club. Money probably didnt hurt
54 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Bills
There is no price for ashley to except, they have said they have no money and are urging the club to cancel his contract
55 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM
If this is to be Colo’s last game for us, then lets hope he gives us 3 points and all fans at the game give him a proper send off and show gratitude for what he has done for us over the past 3 years.
If something in his personal life has come up and he needs to be home to try and resolve it then he goes with my best wishes, thanks and good luck for the future.
56 HullMag6 // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Loan Collo sounds an option.
Carlton Cole? Ok, might do a job. Forming a C&C goal factory. Lol
57 WWYCD // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Colo is our best defender and a great professional who deserves a great deal of respect but we can’t just release him surely?
58 John Tudor // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM
continually fed with utter gobsh1te we are going nowhere
59 HullMag6 // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Sissoko – watch out, remember Cisse was going there until we snatched him (cough) lol. Remember real targets not unveiled until on the verge of signing.
60 Super Magpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM
If this is true then there is no point in keeping him. His heart isn’t in the right place and we wouldn’t see maximum effort from him. If he does leave, then we need 2CBs. But can you really see us doing that? I can’t.
They need to be 2 high quality CBs too, not a 19 year old who will take a few years to develop.
61 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM
@44:
That Loan idea may be the way to go! Not sure how that would work though Ibiza?
But like i said no-one knows diddely squat, about what the true facts are? So until facts are known it is,nt fair on Collo that people are coming on here, and writing up and slagging off on the basis of what just may not be true!
@51: The very thought of The Scum signing Sissoko instead of us is not worth thinking about! We should be in there bidding 5Mil for him. If this lad is worth it and we can agree terms. Are you all going to tell me that we are unable to outbid the Mackems?
62 bills-son // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Tds, if thats the case its a two fingered salute to that club and Colo. He stays, at least to the end of the season, end of. And if a club wont pay an acceptable fee he stays until he finds one that will.
Colo is a professional footballer on a huge wage with responsibilities not just to his family but to his employer. If he has messed his private life up through his fault then he cannot expect the club to pick up the bill. The club kept paying him £80K a week even though he was part of a team that got relegated. We kept our part of the bargain then – he has to keep his part now.
If the lassy rumour is true he needs to be told straight and bluntly by the club – its your problem not ours and the solution to the problem wont be us letting you leave for sweet fa in January – period.
63 one Tony Green // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM
@Hullmag. Hope so. He is a class act.
64 LewSpi v2.0 // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM
http://t.co/AdYkSrhk
Pass Debuchy on the right hand side, Pass Debuchy on the right hand side.
65 mick85eire // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM
@toonbrother are you smoking crack? Colo has been our best defender for years anyone who says otherwise is takin the piss or has no clue about the club so I suggest you take your retarded statements elsewhere pal
66 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM
A loan is best for all parties at the moment. If Colo’s head isn’t 100% focused then he won’t be able to perform as we need in the current plight we are in. Loan Colo out, but he will have to accept that we will pay no wages, and he can agree whatever he wants with San Lorenzo.
If the situation isn’t resolved come the summer, then talk terms, a possible exchange of players? I’m sure Colo would talk the club and area up to team mates in the event it will help him get a permanent move.
67 one Tony Green // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM
@ Billson as usual mate you are absolutely spot on.
68 lucasnufc // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM
If he wants to go, have to let him go. No point at all keeping a player whose heart isn’t in it. It’d only damage us. Especially as he’s captain he’d be no positive influence whatsoever. No blame attached to the board for letting him go. But they have to pay big for a couple of CBS now
69 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM
And if he has been sleeping around, and that is the reason he wants to go, then we as fans must take full responsibility, after all we have been offering him our women and wives for the last 3 years on a weekly basis!
70 Munster Mag // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Billson, same thoughts as me. The guy is on a contract and needs to honour it to the end of the season and then go if needs be. Just more bad luck for NUFC thos season. There are times when I feel for Pardew!
71 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Krul
Debuchy Captain Marvel Williamson Santon
Anita Jonas
Obertan Cabaye Marveux
Cisse
Providing Cabaye is fit, that’s the best team we could get out onto the pitch! Compared to last year……….
Krul
Simpson Coloccini Taylor Santon
Cabaye Tiote Jonas
Benny Cisse Ba
I reaally do fear for us lads!:(
72 check the toastie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Bills Son – i agree, if collo has let his dick rule his brain he needs to take a little responsibility and knuckle down. Down get this his wife is sick so she has gone back to Argentina cack, Collo could affprd to fly har family over every other week, clearly they she has binned him as hes been a naughty boy me thinks.
Why couldnt it have been Jonas, Willo or Shola who wanted to terminate their contract. Why our best player and captain, of all the odds. Bad luck strikes yet again.
73 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:18 AM
shame we might lose our greatest defender of many years but with transfers rumors im in two mind whether its true or not.
and as i said beginning of jan we will only bring in 1 player well i can safely say it’s looking that way since the smackems are getting sissoko and maybe the rest of the free players.
74 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Posted from earlier this morning and from a much, MUCH more reliable source, Tim Vickery, BBC football correspondant in South America and he tells a completely different story:
MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 3:49 AM
At last, about Colo on radio 5 live……
Tim Vickery says, the story in Argentina is that Colo is a huge fan of San Lorenzo and wants to play for them especially with the change of regime there and his Dad’s involment in the club.
He also says the stories we’re getting are not the same as the stories reported in Argentina!
He hints that Colo’s putting pressure on NUFC to get his move and the stories about being homesick and/or family problems etc. are not the same as the what’s reported there.
Colo’s Dad has been on record saying for weeks that Colo wants to come back home and play for his favourite team and is not something that’s just occured over the last week or so!
—————————–
I know what i believe now, believe me Tim Vickery knows his stuff.
75 one Tony Green // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM
@lilongwe. Absolute belter mate.
@lucasnufc you cannot expect the club to let a player go for nothing because he cannot keep his dick in his pants. He signed a new contract recently and was given a 10% signing on fee of the whole contract. Footballers are the most pampered individuals known to man.
76 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM
12 days in and 19 days to go till end of transfer market how pathetic is our club to sign players we had a chance to get players on a free even though they wont come till next season unless we pay about 3- 3.5 mill for them.
if we don’t sign any 1 within the next 4 days well sorry lads we will be down and out by end of season.
77 numba9 // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM
All this talk about Remy . Maybe we are actually looking at team mate and I think someone who would suit the English game Ginac !
78 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM
NewExPat….No idea really. Doesn’t exactly sort anything out or benefit us massively, but it does give all parties some time. If we’re set to lose him for nothing, surely a loan is better and then we can reassess the situation in 6 months?
We’d still need cover, but if for any reason his stuff got sorted and our new CB (‘s!?!?) weren’t cutting it yet, he may be able to return?
Really depends on what’s going on. Time will tell….again
79 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM
A signing on fee is payable over the duration of the contract, if he requested a transfer he would forego the remaining balance. If we sold him without the transfer request then he would still be eligible. A cynic would say this is why he hasn’t put in a formal request, although given his wages would be massively reduced it is hard to make this about cash for Colo.
There is no way San Lorenzo could pay what he is worth, unfortunately my knowledge of San Lorenzo is as good as zero to know if they have players that could be included in a part ex deal.
80 one Tony Green // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM
@ Mactoon with all due respect do you really think he would say anything else in Argentina. He is hardly going to say I need to come home because my wife has left me because I have been playing around.
The woman in question is going to the press so all will be relieved sooner rather than later.
The whole thing is sad but not the fault of NUFC and wherever he goes that club need to pay the going rate for a good central defender.
Not having a a go MacToon HWTL
81 Deana // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Some people seem to be forgetting that Collocini is also probably worth £5/£6m (est) minimum. Unless this little club can come up with an offer that is reasonable then I’m sorry but NO, you can’t have our captain and best centre half. We’re not a fecking charity.
82 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Remy won’t come nor will anyone at this rate end off.
so much for pardew saying that if 1 leaves 2 will come in ( what a load of bollocks!)
83 Spreadthetoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Marveaux admitted he came close to quitting Newcastle.
He said: “I like the place, but there was a time when I was thinking about moving on to find a solution for me to play because I was feeling good and fit but I was not being picked.
Well for all those protecting AP’s record on Marveaux looks like you may have been proved wrong and that Marveaux has been fit most of the season! Incredible really…………
As for Collo, this would not be such a BIG problem if MA and co had invested in the summer….they didn’t so matters are compounded. I have always felt and believed that NUFC should be buying 2 world class CBs this window…….so give them time to settle…with the help of Collo for 1m and then let the lad go on unpaid compassionate leave to be with his wife for the remainder of the season to try to resolve / support his family and wife. I think that is the best solution…………again I have little sympathy with the board who chose not to invest during the summer….NOW THEY MUST!
84 geoff777 // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM
I can’t see Ashley & Llambias caring too much about this.
They have a contract with a multi’million pound asset.
End of.
85 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Loan out Colo, Loan in Lescott?
I’m not a huge fan of Lescott but he has experience and I would imagine the wages issue would almost balance out. We would still need at least 1 more defender in, but it buys us time on permanent solutions?
86 BelfastMagpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM
I dont buy the home sickness rubbish either.Wife is ill etc etc. Seems like the best excuse you could use if you really want out.There’s only one possible outcome here & it’s Colo leaving. What’s the point of trying to convince a guy to stay, when he clearly wants out. Probably best to loan him to them for 6 months & revisit it in the summer.,
87 spennymoor-mag // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM
I can’t see us wining today!
This is worrying times we are in a right mess. Our captains last game,no players coming in as per usual! Says everything when our main target is James tomkins ffs man. It’s really annoying. Sissoko to the scum!! 3.5 million bargain. Fat greedy twat!!! Sorry chaps but with fat twat owner and no brains manager it’s championship here we come
88 manxpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Over his whole contract and including his transfer fee we must have spent not far of 25 million for him!! Lorenzo= CHEEKY BASTARDS!!
89 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Listen for yourself, it’s on this link from 2(hours).44:
described as a “slow burner”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01pvs3q
90 Lee Dodd // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM
I hate to Say This But If His wife Is that ill and dare I say it The Big C then Colo has to go back home with her. He can Play on loan over there . he will always be a Hero On Tyneside so Matter what !!!! Money Doesn’t come into it !!!!!! BUT if she can pull through then we have the best Hospitals here in the Uk !!!! The captains armbans for the NUFC is a Hell of a Thing so Even Give it to Someone else until the Summer Maybe Even Yohan Cabaye . But WE still Need 4 New Signings.
91 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Sky Sports understands West Ham are ready to offload Carlton Cole in this month’s transfer window.
Marseille are one of a number clubs across Europe weighing up a move for Cole as a possible replacement for Loic Remy who has been linked with a move to Newcastle.
92 Indian Magpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Freelance journalist ?@indykaila
Luke Shaw has a buy out clause for certain premiership clubs. The clubs are #ChelseaFC #THFC #Liverpool #ManUtd #MCFC #NUFC #Arsenal.
93 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM
I hope we show collo true Geordie support today,
But if this whole marriage problem is true, is singing “oh Collocini you can shag my wife” going to help?!
Quick, new chant everyone!
94 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Ibiza,
Lol, Cole to Marseille? I hope so, if only so Pardew doesn’t bring him up here!
95 Lee Dodd // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Here we Go We will Get Carlton Cole on Loan until the Summer !!!!!! Sissoko on a free in the summer and remy for €5 million ….
96 BelfastMagpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM
If we sign Carlton Cole i’m going to bury my head in the sand forever.
97 gaz 44 // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM
think problem is with marv the same as hba .. pards wouldn’t play then until the learn they had to track back and defend as is a team game… neither are still particularly good at it still but at least now there is a bit of an attempt.. for me if we sign remy i struggle to see remy , marv and hba playing together as itd be brilliant going forward but defensively weak
98 gaz 44 // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:40 AM
having said that… bring back the entertainers; least we lost in style
99 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Indian,
He also said something about us having a deal tied up last week.
Anyway, the release fee is thought to be around 10million, no chance NUFC would stump that up for a young full back.
100 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Lilongwe…Made me chuckle….Though it’ll end in tears…for someone (likely the team left with Cole)
101 One comment a day // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Get either Olsen or Hangelaand in and now, get one of the younger CB’s that they were looking at in now. Get a LB that can play CB (Pieters) in now.
Stuff Remy and get someone that wants to sign NOW!
102 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Gaz,
If he didn’t play Marveaux because he wouldn’t track back why on earth has Sammi been getting game time?
103 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:42 AM
i wonder if i get criticize when i say TOLD YOU SO at the end of the transfer market for bringing in only 1 player, well ill just have to wait and see.
104 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:43 AM
one Tong G, seriously mate and no offence taken but should I listen to the gossip/papers/blogs etc. in the uk or an expert based in Sth America who certainly know’s his stuff.
Let’s just agree that there’s more to this than we are being told!
105 Spreadthetoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Mactoon
Just listened to that Radio 5 link…..it does not bode well for NUFC either way…..really am frustrated with all this….what the hell is going on with our club? Graaaghhhhhh
106 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:48 AM
Spread, I know mate and I really didn’t expect Tim vickery to say anything like he did and it’s really shocked me, a real spanner in the works and a depressing time to be a Toon fan yet again.
Hope we sort this mess out quickly and start climbing the table starting from today.
107 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Cashley five year plan
Premier league
Championship
League 1
League 2
Blue bet
108 Lachu // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Y are we so dumb…
Waiting for some unknown players in france ..
I wud look at english lower lesgue..
I would have raided wolves .. if i was D.lame ars
Doyle , R.johnson , Ohara .. 4 + 2 +2 = 8mill
Surely better than Ameobi , wiliamson , and perch ..
109 Andres InYaNestEh // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM
What on earth is going on at NUFC?!? Very worrying
110 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Alright then….before I go, back to basics.
—————–Krul————–
Debuchy–Willo-Colo–Santon
———-Perch–Anita———-
—–Obertan–Marv–Guti——
—————–Cisse————-
Subs: Harper, Tav, Ferguson, Cabaye, Sammy, Ranger & Abeid or Bigi
1-2 to the toon.
Catch you later to hopefully discuss some positives within the current negatives.
111 BelfastMagpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM
It’s all very strange like. Few people we’re saying he was not happy a few months ago. Then the fallout with Pardew then this. I would rather have somebody who’s 100 % commited to the cause. Rather than somebody who wants away. I dont really see the point of trying to convince him to stay, if he really wants out. Leaves us in the shit either way.
112 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM
dont worry lachu i heard newcastle scouts are all over sunday league teams so maybe we might bring in 23 players after sunday
113 BelfastMagpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:55 AM
The fact that Mactoon was listening to 5 live at 4 oclock in the morning worries me even more. Haha
Late night at the swingers club ?
114 2_goal_tino // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Regarding part-exchange from Lorenzo for Colo. I’d think we’d have to take their whole first team to even get close to his value. Their best players are all over the hill guys who had average careers in Portugal, they have that Straquilarsi (sp?) guy who was at Everton for a year a few seasons back and then their only real genuine prospect is a 18year old attacking midfielder Alan Ruiz…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtkh_rlg3Is
Think a part/ex is off the table! I don’t understand why it has to be San Lorenzo. Why not River Plate at least we could part exchange him for Pezella/Cirigliano
115 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Belfast, did you listen to the link I posted? and can you remember I posted about this on the 22nd Dec after Tim Vickery first mentioned it on the same radio show!
So any paper saying colo’s dad said last week………. well he said it mid December, it’s ongoing and a huge problem for us and our CB. No wonder his form’s dipped in recent games?
116 BelfastMagpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Mactoon the fact that we’ve obviously new about this for a while & still not signed a centre back is a complete f*** up.
117 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:01 PM
I agree mate and I always listen to the show if I stay awake long enough. Love to listen to Tim Vickery even though I rarely know who he’s talking about but his knowledge of the game in Sth America is second to non imho.
118 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Not sure of the problem…..
Mactoon – why believe a bbc journo is South America over journos here?
Th bbc reported family problems too on their site.
Also seen vickery come in for a lot of criticism on bbc blogs for poor knowledge of the game and not covering everything. So whilst he has a different spin maybe it’s not more reliable, it might week be but wouldn’t say I’m 100% set on trusting anything yet.
No matter hat situation the club either need to get a good amount of money for the deal or loan him for a decent fee.
No point letting out best defender go for next to nothing. Sympathy with him and his family if the British reports are true but the club still need to get something out of it.
Also if it was just to play for his fathers club why would he suddenly decide its vital he goes now and not in the summer?
119 BelfastMagpie // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:03 PM
I find it very hard to believe the home sickness rubbish like.
Wife ill etc etc. Seems the best excuse to force a move, in my opinion.
120 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:04 PM
One comment
Agree hangeland for me is the only influential PL proven CB with in our grasp
121 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:05 PM
“Also seen vickery come in for a lot of criticism on bbc blogs for poor knowledge of the game and not covering everything”
ha ha ok whatever!
122 banjax // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Until the club make a statement all we can do what is what we are doin here – guess. In sayin that, as we have seen before, whether we want him him to stay or go, it wont make any difference. On the bright side though with Colo’s wages free, the Toon could bid for a Real quality player, maybe even Frank Lampard (I know – dream on)
123 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Mactoon
Not a criticism of you, just wondering your take.
Belfast
3 people in every deal, nufc, other club and player/agent.
If one of the three drag their heels it holds the other 2 up.
Some clubs force it by paying over the top and high wages. We pay fair values I think which is why deals usually take longer unless players are desperate to come like debuchy.
124 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM
I sooo hope this story is true. Come on MA get Ismat or Van Dijk in
125 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Mactoon
I don’t follow the South American game so I don’t know what he reports.
Before laughing it ff read some of his bbc blogs and te comments people put on, a lot of people who claim to be South American based, he gets some stick for not reporting in enough detail and getting things wrong.
Not saying he criticism is right, but it is there.
126 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:09 PM
A very flippant remark tbh TS. Just from that link I posted you can tell the attention to detail and his enthusiasm for the game over there. A typical report from the Legendinho.
127 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Belfast
You get players quitting cricket and rugby as they get depressed on a 2/3 month tour.
It’s logical to believe some players/families will get depressed, especially if they are used to a large family network.
128 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Sage
The problem is there will be no fee involved loan or transfer from san lorenzo there relying purely on colo canceling his contract and on top of that the cheeky kernts have given US a fcuking deadline!!!
http://m.skysports.com/article/football/yourclub/8391267?compid=263&teamid=409
Personally dont know what to believe after his dads statement about finding a “nice way” to leave
129 swisstone // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Hangeland would be a terrible signing imo
130 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Mactoon
The criticism I have seen on his bbc blogs isn’t a lack of passion or enthusiasm, it’s a lack of facts and missing details, only covering a few teams in detail, etc
I’m not saying the criticism is valid as I don’t religiously read his stuff or listen to him, but just saying there has been criticism of him
131 Dannyo // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Massivly interesting readin L’equip this morning.
So what if we treat them like Lidl, really tho, they’re more reasonbly priced, it’s the UK that’s overpriced to fakk.
132 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Sage@122
But given the nature of our need of a cb theres nothing stopping us agreeing a fee with a club before the window opens
133 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Phil Vickery is very knowledgable in SA footy, but so much of this is rumour and conjecture that even top journos probably aren’t sure.
club needs to make a statement after todays game to clear this up
134 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Tads
I wouldn’t let him go then.
I know it’s difficult for colo if his wife is ill, I get she will want to be with we family when ill and he will pay for the finest treatment over there so that’s ok.
I think there has to be some perspective from colo. he needs to realise this club can’t have him for free mid season.
I’d give them a deadline to pay a set fee or that’s it, he doesn’t go.
135 Dannyo // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:18 PM
If we know MA for one thing, it’s not letting anything go easy.
Colo will be going nowhere unless we get something close to his evaluation.
And i doubt either Colo or San Lorenze have saved up anything of the sort.
Put it to rest Collo, u’re headed nowhere this month.
136 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM
TS, I’ve listened to the guy for years and his attention to detail is overwhelming at times.
It seems you don’t like what he says so throw in the “discredit” him card.
As you say, you don’t follow football there or listen or read what he says but happy to dismiss what he says! Bit strange really.
137 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Tads
On transfers…..we might agree a fee with a club before the window…but if its a sort after player they might want to wait to see if a team will pay them more.
Also a player might think why sign for Newcastle now, wait 2 weeks and see if a better team comes in.
Or clubs might not sell a key player until they get a replacement lined up.
It’s difficult to do deals if other clubs and players want to delay it. No matter how hard we try the deal only goes as quick as th slowest party wants it to
138 Tommyy // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM
It’s got to the stage where I’ll be surprised if we don’t get relegated. Considering our position we should have had 2 players in by now at the very least. It’s inexcusable, other teams can so why can’t we!?
139 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Sage
True enough but i just cant credit ashley and lamears3 enough with the professionalism to get buisness done and honestly dont believe we’ve bid on the players needed, to say i was stunned to hear we’d bid for aliadiare is an understatement! We need atleast one experienced CB in
140 NUFC STEVE // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:25 PM
One of the worst things about collo leavin is GUTIERREZ would be our CAPTAIN. That would be pathetic- a poor winger who throws himself on the ground whenever he can. CABAYE, TIOTE or Krul for captain.
141 Mister Tuff // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Newcastle are not “managing” the Collo story from a PR perspective. They are showing some ineptitude here -but that’s not a great surprise.
If the board say no -he may do a “Tevez” and return to Argentina regardless.
I cannot recall a similar situation, but there probably are -I suspect that in the short term Collo has agreed to play at Norwich only to allow the Toon more time to get the defensive re-enforcements through the door -next week?
142 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Mactoon
I don’t not like what he says…..I am just saying the bbc reported yesterday about colo’s personal reasons and another of their journo’s, vickery, has said something else.
In just saying what makes him better or more clued up that the British based journo who wrote the original piece.
Yes he is based in Argentina so here’s more from the club their but colo is based in England so maybe the British journo here’s more reliable info of colo.
I was merely pointing out I have seen him criticised before, not discrediting him, just saying he gets some flack like the British journos do too.
I’ll take your word for it that he has good knowledge if you are a regular listener of his and say his info matches up with what you see.
I just think it’s still too early and with no official word from colo, no articles here have quotes from colo, or from vickery either, then it’s difficult to know for certain the exact situation.
143 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM
looks like PEA is not coming here.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8391958/?
He doesn’t even mention Newcastle as one of the interested clubs.
144 LewSpi v2.0 // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Just to be clear, neither Colo or NUFC have said anything about this have they? So far, it’s his dad (agent) and the club who want him that have released statements, aye?
Think I’ll reserve judgement until I hear the other side of the tale.
145 Expat MAG // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM
I would play Cabaye for the first 60 minutes today but think Pardew will have him on the bench and give him the last 30+ minutres so team is:
—————Krul————–
Debuchy–Willo-Colo–Santoon
———Perch–Anita———-
—–Obertan–Marv–Guti——
—————Cisse————-
Subs: Harper, Tav, Bigi, Ferguson, Cabaye, Sammy, Ranger
1-3 to the toon, with Cisse, Obertan and Ranger getting his first PL goal at last…….
146 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Tads
I agree llambias makes thins much more difficult that they need to be.
Clubs and players may drag their heels but llambias is the biggest time waster of all.
Would love him gone and replaced with an experienced footballing chairman.
147 Krul to be Kind // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Reading between the lines I get the impression Tim Vickery has put his oar in re colo, vickery is a great journalist and the BBC link to SA, I personally have a lot of respect for him and his BBC SA blogs are as good an insight into SA than any other journo I know, I’ve been reading his work for years now…
But what did he say re colo?
148 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM
OK, fair comment TS, remain open-minded as I believe it’s not as clear (lol) or as straightforward as we are being told. Sorry for being p’eed off but I believe what he says and therefore believe he (Colo) wants to leave NUFC and not for personal reasons. So does it mean there’s unrest behind the scene, ba gone already and Colo ready to jump ship?
149 northernirishtoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Whatever the truth is with colo, either way his heart obviously isn’t in it at the minute which could possibly, or maybe has possibly had a negative effect on the rest of the squad. He would need to get his head out if his hole and pull us out of this mess or come out and tell us his true intentions. We are in too much of a delicate situation here
150 gaz 44 // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:37 PM
we’ve been linked with aliadere every window since he was a free agent.. we chose shefti kuchqi however ya spell it.. he ain’t coming lol
151 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Krul (and everyone should listen to this imo), listen for yourself, it’s on this link from 2(hours).44:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01pvs3q
152 SupaToonKid // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM
The Jores Okoré lad is top quality him or the Mirin from Valenciennes would be quality & definitely needed is Colo goes. Still though need a Douglas or Mbiwa before who can come in and start straight away. I’m still praying we get 1 of them in & can persuade Colo to stay until the end of the season (unless some £8-10M offer comes) then bring in Okoré then.
153 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Gaz
L’orient fc confirmed we’ve made a bid for him
154 Graeme // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM
If Collo wishes to break his contract, for whatever reason (we really don’t know the reality of the situation) There are several options available.
Collo could resign, we retain his registration – he would receive no income from NUFC and would be unable to play as a Professional, anywhere, under FIFA jurisdiction. It is also possible NUFC could sue him for Breach of Contract
Collo could ask to buy out his own Contract, at a price agreed between the two parties, providing both parties were willing to do so. Collo would then be free to play anywhere, in the future, if he wanted to.
NUFC could insist that Colo sees out his Contract, but not sure what use the player would be in those circumstances.
Just hope it is all resolved amicably, without the team being left up creek without a rowing implement!!
155 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Mactoon
Didnt intend to dismiss your comments on him, just proposing an alternative.
But I agree there is a lot to this an until its done we really won’t know.
I’d say that unrest could be possible. Well documented he had argued with pardew, his form has dipped, he lost his rag at liverpool getting any off, seemed fed up. Could be annoyed at lack of investment, promises broken which go lt him to sign a new contract etc.
Somebody posted here a couple day ago colo and Ben arfa fell out and pardew backed Ben arfa.
Lots of rumour but these things come out when teams are playing bad. Tension increases, players are under pressure and can often snap.
I want colo to stay, but if he goes Ashley and co need to act fast to get a prem league ready replacement.
Two clear options for me, we need experience and quality. Go for hangaland or samba.
156 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Tads
Do you believe that?
He is garbage and 29. Doesn’t sound like a player would bid for.
I take everything with a pinch of salt. Especially in this silly month.
They say we have bid but it’s not been reported on sky sports or bbc which suggests its made up.
157 Brettoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM
MacToon…
Just listened..
Interesting.
Let’s see what Pardew says at the game..
158 @lukehodge_ // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM
he stuck by us when we went down.. he just cant go this january.. i think if he still wanted to go by summer then everybody would respect that!
cabaye next captin??
159 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Sage
It was a SSN
In all honesty i have no idea the kind of player were after as i honestly believe the board have no ambition hope im wrong but cant see it atm
160 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Tads
Ah, must have missed it then. I still think at 29 we won’t sign him.
He isn’t even good, under Ashley we haven’t bought much rubbish these last few years. He seems to spend little but usually well
161 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Ts
I really really hope not deperate times if were after the smoggies rejects!
162 John Tudor // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:01 PM
ashley get out and stay out
163 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:06 PM
If we are after Alliadiere then there are some serious issues with player recruitment. I don’t believe for a second that he is a Graham Carr pick though, just doesn’t fit the mould. His wife is homesick though, and wants a move back to UK.
Alliadiere smacks of a desperate attempt after other targets have failed to show an interest in joining or we are unwilling to pay.
164 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:11 PM
Tads
Yeh I agree
He proved he couldn’t play in any level of team in England by failing everywhere
165 two steps forward one step back // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Bit strange the Marveaux post dropped in here
Where did that one come from ?
Interview source please !
Pards is slow in bringing in players and mostly that can be justified., but not always. I’ve seen interviews with Marv (can’t remember source) that he wanted to play but admitted he wasn’t match fit.
Pards has a hell of a job on his hands just now. Poor results and simmerings of various discontent. Marve actually going public that he had thought about moving on when he was barely back from injury is another body blow – if it’s true.
166 Toon1978 // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Our reserves beat City…wohooooooooooooooo!!
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Match-reports/2013/January/Newcastle-United-u18s-v-City-u18s-Barclays-U18-Premier-League-12-January-2013?
167 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:34 PM
So what’s news on the Colo rumors?
…and have we bought anyone yet?
168 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM
…about Jores Okore – there is no real news here in DK!
169 Sazzer // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Anita one bites
Guess he is out the question now.
170 Premiership Manager // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:39 PM
It’s simple, he should be given a leave of absence agreed with the club and come back when able.
If he genuinely wants to leave the club to return to Argentina then San Lorenzo should pay a nominal fee of £2-3M to Newcastle and agree terms with the player.
I can’t see Ashley or Llambias doing business any other way as Colo still has 2-3 years left in him at the top level and to be honest I can’t see him staying in Argentina.
My guess is if he is allowed to leave he’d see the end of the season out at San Lorenzo and then move on to Valencia or one of the other teams who were interested on a free, making a total mockery of the club.
171 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Two steps
http://m.skysports.com/article/football/yourclub/8391928?compid=263&teamid=409
172 gfp13 // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:39 PM
That report says barker is 16 then a few paragraphs down says he’s 15. City have that many players they don’t even know them themself
173 kevymartins // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:42 PM
To be fair the board would be complete di ck s if they don’t let him go. We all know colo . He is not greedy he is loyal and will say great things about newcastle when he leaves. At the end of the day family comes first in no matter what you do so i suspect most people on here fans all over the world will understand this and move on.
174 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Premiership Manager
If, if colo does go to san lorenzo at a heavily reduced fee there should 100% be a sell on clause as you said he has a few years left at top level possiby longer in serie A, so any future move we should be entitled to 75 % of his fee
175 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Newcastle won’t accept any less than something that resembles his real value (why should they?)
…you have to remember that even though Newcastle has respect for Colo and ‘his personal problem’, they are personal and a contract goes both ways.
…we all go through tough times and we all do our job (a leave of absence for a month could be a solution).
But if he genuinely wants to leave then someone’s gotta pay! (they always do; I just don’t think it will be the club and nor should it be.
176 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Sad about the possibility of Collocini leaving. I really like him as a player and a person. Like watching him play and thought he was an adopted Geordie and that his kids had settled in really well so this has come as a bit of surprise. I hope he can stay at least until the summer transfer windows which will give us to get his replacement and give them time to adjust to the premier league.
177 alf // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Ashley is still sitting on 35 million clear profit he got for Carroll yet the greedy southern crook will not strengthen the team. Pardew out the weak twat hanging onto his job but not for long Hughton will fettle that knacker today!
178 proudtobageordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:49 PM
anyone got live stream for todays game?
179 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Colo is earning £3M a year (money should not be a problem for him and family and good health should always come before money)
…I am still waiting to hear what’s it all about!
180 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM
proud…http://www.viponlinesports.eu/sports/football.html
181 Twatter // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Glad Mac brought up the Vickery thing, because I was going to if someone hadn’t. I respect the Legendinho and anyone calling him out for not knowing his stuff are way way off the mark, he’s one of the best journalists around.
With the situation itself, I think that Coloccini has a contract to honour. Dissapointed to see so many of you saying we should just get rid and lose all the investment so he can be appeased and go back to San Lorenzo.
The fact of the matter is NUFC hold the cards. Colo can kick and scream as much as he wants but he’s got a contract he signed not too long ago and there’s still a fair bit of time left on it. Moreover, just because it’s been reported as “issues with the wife” doesn’t mean that’s a solid fact. Remember that when you say we should just give in and let him go for free, FFS.
182 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Jesper
Well said. Give him a month away if it needs be.
If we do sell him it has to be for a fair fee. We need to replace him and although its not colo’s fault, if his wife is ill, it’s not the clubs either.
It’s not a normal job where you just hire somebody else, you need to pay millions in transfer fees
183 Shot Bru // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Yet another injury prone young player….Remi Streete injured again this morning…
184 Transfer Sage // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Twitter
I wasn’t calling vickery out, just more curious that I had read negative things about his reporting and wondered if he was reliable, or any more reliable tht British based journos.
185 proudtobageordie // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM
captain
what is the picture like
186 Spreadthetoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 1:58 PM
If Collo wants to go to Argentina I think it is unfair for his dad to mandate San Lorenzo the club with a timeline mandate…..at the end of the day he is still an NUFC player and not a free agent!
As for today……no more excuses Pardew….”ah the news of Collo upset the team and I think that impacted on our performance today”…..NO, none of that…..I want to see a spirited performance….if he cannot achieve that during these times then he never will be. THE NEXT 3 GAMES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THIS SEASON – MIN 110% EFFORT!!
187 jon.c // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM
No wonder Fab has been under the weather lately due to family problems it answers the reasons. With regard to transfers we hear all bull s—-t but no action other dont go for publicity they go out do whats to be done then let you know when completed
188 t00ntime // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Trust me colo is going no where!
Lorenzo “we dont have anymoney nufc have to annul his contract”
Yeah right…. As if any boss in the world of football will terminate a contract of a player who has signed for 5 years because he cudnt keep his pants on. That wud be awful buisness. No way will MA let colo go for free and then have to spend 6/7mil on replacement
189 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM
debuccchhyyy
190 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Tim Krul; Mathieu Debuchy, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Davide Santon; James Perch, Vurnon Anita; Gabriel Obertan, Sylvain Marveaux, Jonas Gutierrez; Papiss Cisse
191 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Tim Krul; Mathieu Debuchy, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Davide Santon; James Perch, Vurnon Anita; Gabriel Obertan, Sylvain Marveaux, Jonas Gutierrez; Papiss Cisse
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192 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM
I agree Twatter, I think what Vickery doesn’t know about his subject is probably not worth knowing.
Listen to this for those who haven’t already because it is a different take on Colo leaving, 2 hours 44 in:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01pvs3q
Can people listen to this from outside of the UK?
193 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Proud…they are always good on vipbox. They usually have HD streams, but not for this game I think.
194 toonbrother // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Very good line up. Would have preferred Bigirimana for Jonas. Come on Cisse!!
195 thespecialone-ameobi // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Mutiny
Thank you for giving me the best news ever that Debuchy is playing. That’s made my day I’m glad with this line up
196 Conaldo (The Wizard...Also Bestest Friends With Paul Scharner) // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Decent line up I think. Gettin stronger and stronger every week.
Don’t lose today, get some points on the board and we can kick on from here.
197 Jail for Ashley // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Shame that the Collo story is taking away the fact that we’ve only brought in one defender so far with probably the three most important games of the season coming up and the defender in question is a guy who was only signed so quickly is because the only other available natural right back is the injured Simpson.
198 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Thespeicalone
No shola on the bench though
199 MacToon // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Looking forward to watching Debuchy and seems like an attacking line up. 2-0 to the TOON.
200 ToonDownSouth // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:08 PM
I completely forgot Tiote was away.
Pretty much the only lineup Pardew could have gone with. Glad to see Perch back in midfield, and having witnessed the last few games I’m glad to see Jonas back covering for Santon.
201 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Is that lineup confirmed?
202 Jail for Ashley // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Special,
How could Debuchy not play, Simpson is injured, who on earth did you think might play ?
203 Spreadthetoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Tim Krul; Mathieu Debuchy, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Davide Santon; James Perch, Vurnon Anita; Gabriel Obertan, Sylvain Marveaux, Jonas Gutierrez; Papiss Cisse
Substitutes: Steve Harper, James Tavernier, Gael Bigirimana, Yohan Cabaye, Romain Amalfitano, Sammy Ameobi, Nile Ranger
Cannot believe Ranger ahead of Campbell….back to U21s says it all……..
204 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM
obviously because since he is supendd
205 2_goal_tino // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:12 PM
C-O-L-O-C-C-I-N-I
He’s been here 4 and a half seasons and people still can’t spell his name! It’s not Collo, Collocini, Colloccini or Colocinni. He only has a double ‘C.’
206 thespecialone-ameobi // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Ah our super sub is not on the bench lets hope we can still pull it off
207 nufc1984 // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:16 PM
I hate to be pessimistic but I think today has Southampton away written all over it. a team we should beat but actually end up getting outplayed and beaten 2or 3-1. cant see any other result the way we have been playing. No matter what line up we play I cannot see any positives in the way we play. ncfc 3 nufc 1
208 naptoon // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:17 PM
why is amaltifano always on bench for both shadow team and first team? surely if hes on bench today he was worth a run out last week. the few times hes got on hes looked ok.
209 HullMag6 // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Only viable options are loan Collo to San Lorenzo or he buys out his contract. Sad but true regardless of circumstances, a great servant of the club but until the TRUTH is disclosed wait and save the rancour if its justified until then.
210 karasu // Jan 12, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Why not just send him to San Lorenzo on loan or let him take unpaid leave like Stiliyan Petrov? The way I look at it, if Colo is really that dead set on going back for his wife, there’s nothing we can do to stop him. After that, look out for center backs that we can take on loan until Colo comes back.
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