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Bizarre Coloccini Situation Now Has Monday Deadline Day

9:30 am, Thursday, January 17th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 58 Comments

The news on Fabricio Coloccini yesterday was that the meeting that was supposed to take place to resolve his future, was moved to next Monday, after it was supposed to take place yesterday.

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Fabricio Coloccini - could be leaving on Monday

We may be the only ones, but we think this is all so bizarre with a club in Argentina – San Lorenzo – trying to get one of out best players for nothing basically, and Fabricio wants to just walk away from his contract at Newcastle, that still has three and a half years to run.

What’s wrong with this picture?

Coloccini has told Newcastle that he wants to return to Argentina because of personal reasons, and that’s all we’ve been told, although as you may expect there are lots of rumors out there, as to what has really happened.

San Lorenzo President Matias Lammens said this to TyC Sports:

“We were always very clear and we said that it depends on the player.” “We are going to offer him a good contract, he wants to come and I have hope that it can be done. We understand the people of Newcastle, it is hard to let a player like him leave.”

“But Coloccini has to end his contract. We depend on the feelings of the player and on what he can negotiate in England. We can’t buy his transfer in no way. He has been chosen as the best defender of the Premier League, he is an elite player.”

“San Lorenzo can only point to Coloccini’s feelings and not to his pocket. He has personal problems and wants to return to Argentina. We can only offer him a good contract.”

“Coloccini would be an emblem, we will wait until the end of this week – Sunday or Monday. But we do have a Plan B, and the preference of the coach is Mauro Cetto.”

This seems so unfair to Newcastle and if and when Colo leaves, then our  fans will require some explanation – of how come we lost our captain and one of our very best players half through the season – when we are 5th bottom of the league table.

January so far is turning out to be a disaster for Newcastle, and maybe we’ll get some answers today from Alan Pardew during his press conference for the Reading game – but we wont be holding our breath.

Surely things can only go up from now on?

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58 responses so far ↓

  • 1 archaeomag // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    @ED Good picture of Colo looking confused !

  • 2 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    when pardew was seen @ blackpool i was hoping he had been interviewed for that job,no such luck

  • 3 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    This is simple for me.

    San Lorenzo pay the going rate for colo, we have him tied down for 3.5 years still so pay us a good fee or he isn’t your player.

    If he is in desperate need to return home for a family crisis…give him a month or two compassionate leave and bring an experienced defender in on loan til the end of the year on top of the defender we need to sign.

    No way should we allow him to leave for free.

    If it’s an illness a few months leave should be sufficient. If it’s home sickness I dont see how that has changed so much the past year since he signed his new deal.

  • 4 FloridaToon // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    This smells rotten. Looks more and more like they just want a top defender for free and Colo’s dad maybe right in the middle of it.

  • 5 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    What are the odds that he leaves on 31st leving us pants down on the ramp

  • 6 5Danny94 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    I’d be delighted to see Cabaye wear the captains armband on Saturday. If our own captain isn’t willing to put his heart and soul in to the club, especially when we need it the most, then I don’t think he deserves it. Pure and simple.

  • 7 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    rotonda

    from previous

    I’m not saying rijkaard is less successful than pardew..just questioning if he can do it when not at a top team like barcelona.

    And also wondering if, a big if, pardew was to leave….would Rijkaard be your choice? he wouldn’t be mine, think we could get a better manager with less of a high profile who will do just as good but be less demanding and have less wages.

  • 8 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    My Feelings

    He does not want to go but is being pushed by his dad/family

  • 9 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Utter madness. Imagine walking into a Ferrari showroom and saying right, I’ve got enough cash to pay road tax and petrol, but that leaves me with nothing to give you for it. You have until Monday to give me the car. Thanks.

    Where do San Lorenzo get off? I was happy for the club to thrash something out for Colo’s sake if there was a serious family issue involved, and if that meant a loan to San Lorenzo until the summer so be it. But now I’d rather give him compassionate leave till the summer and re visit it then. If he doesn’t like that then he should retire, and we withhold his registration so he can’t play elsewhere.

  • 10 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    5Danny94

    I agree…take the captaincy off him during this controversy.

    Even if it is for legitimate reasons, I understand the importance of family, we should have a captain willing to play for the club 100%.

    It would be a shame as Colo is held in high regard according to a few ex pro’s around the club..meant to be great at keeping the lads bonded, team meals out with family etc…good for morale so must be well liked.

  • 11 gfp13 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Delaying this meeting/departure so we can bring someone in maybe? Gonna end up being a panic buy possibly but I still remain optimistic we will have a stronger squad than we had in 2012

  • 12 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    TS – Who would you have? I’d be interested to know. Many have mentioned Blanc and Solskjaer, but I’m not sure either of them, or Rijkaard would be interested in coming to work under the apparent transfer constraints at the club.

  • 13 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    John tudor
    Feeling better then?

    As for colo, why have they got money to offer him a good contract but not pay a fee?
    Sorry but the blokes under contract, one he was more than happy to sign, surely if his situations not money orintated he can sacrifice his pay slip, play for peanuts and they can use the money on a transfer fee?
    This situation is getting beyond stupid only at newcastle eh!

  • 14 spitfire_ // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    So those b@astards want Colo but they don’t have the money they want to get him on free transfer using this “personal problems” sh!t and they give a deadline day? Almost arrogant eh…

  • 15 stuart no9 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    i just cant see ash letting him go for nowt.
    he pays his players peanuts to start with , he’s not just going to give a top player away for free- out of the goodness of his heart – if he had one .however, how much would he save in wages if he did let him go? would it be worth it to him? dont forget the football- our position is not important to ash, so he’ll be working out the pros and cons on the financial side

  • 16 Offkey // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    If San Lorenzo can offer a good contract, lets say 30k a week, why don’t they just offer him less and give us 20k a week. Thats 1 million a year, say for three years, isn’t that bad.

    Or am I getting the wages vastly wrong, is 30k a week far too much in Argentina?

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    lilongwe

    I think compassionate leave would make much more sense.

    If he has an ill wife (some reports say) then surely he would be better being over there with no commitments…it would mean he could spend 100% time with his wife whereas if he signed for san lorenzo he would have to train, play and travel to away games.

  • 18 lewytoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    is blanc the one who has the problem with ben arfa?

  • 19 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie/Transfer sage
    Alot of the managers people are calling for have never had to manage a club with a strict budget tbf for me the only manager we could get would be david moyes

  • 20 Offkey // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    lewy – isnt it dechamps.

  • 21 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    @ tds just like a frikken new signing hahaha

  • 22 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    i see tudor is back fighting fit and writing ridiculous hate comments about our manager

  • 23 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    hey 60% on here dislike him

  • 24 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Stuart….Do you not think Ashley cares at all about our league position, even if only for the financial aspect? Didn’t he / doesn’t he offer bonuses dependent on finishing position? Then obviously there is the extra money by being a PL club and not a Championship one.

    On the Colo situation….ARRRRGGGHHH…..UGGHHH….GGGRRRRR….There, now you all know my feelings.

  • 25 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Lewy/offkey
    Think it was dechamps but didnt benny have a bust up with blanc during the euros?

  • 26 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    and how is hoping he applied for another job a hate comment to me its meerly a joke

  • 27 STB // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Forget Aubameyang.
    He will stay with St.Etienne until Summer.
    They are in their 1st Cup Final in 31 years next month, and he would only give that up if a mega club came in.

    As for Rémy, of course money and exit clauses were factors but Harry also promised to play him as main CF and not on the wing alongside Cissé & Ben Arfa which we clearly stated. He wanted to be main CF… and the extra salary.

    Stay away from Gomis. Might as well take Danny Graham for a 5th of the price. If you could choose a striker from Lyon, take Lisandro Lopes wo is a better player & could^play with Cissé, even if he’s slightly older than Gomis. Kids may win titles but they don’t keep you up.

    Remember Ardiles. Until KK came in and brought in Killer Kilcline we were destined for 3rd division. Same pragmatism is needed now to avert the risk to Ashley’s investment.

    We need experience (especially at CB) to ensure we get out of the relegation battle. A Lescott/Samba type would be fine for the short term primary target of staying up.

    By all means try to bring in Mapou Yanga Mbwia or other good prospects but we can’t expect him to be up for a premeir league scrap in the next few critical months.

    Taking youngsters with sell-on value and potential is great if you’re guaranteed mid table at least. We are not. Get real.

  • 28 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Very coincidental that his father came out a few weeks back and said that San Lorenzo wanted Collo to return home.

    At that point, Collo’s agent denied it as speculation. If Collo was having these family issues, which I am sure have not just cropped up overnight since he is looking at turning his life upside down, why did they not come out then and say Yes, Collo does want to go back, for personal reasons.

    Situation stinks, he has NUFC over a barrel really. Can’t afford to cancel his contract and let him leave, but cant force him to stay as what frame of mind will he be in?

  • 29 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    John Tudor….Shouldn’t you be taking it easy? I’m starting to think Ashley might have investments in the health sector and is slowly trying to drive all toon fans to some form of health breakdown. The guys an evil genius (that was tongue in cheek in case not clear)

  • 30 Offkey // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    tads – I dont think it really matters, I think Pards is here for the long run………

  • 31 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    @tudor was there a poll i missed?
    regardless it just seems you’re here to slag him off

  • 32 JARRAMAG // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    JARRAMAG // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    Do Ashley,Llambias and Pardue have any idea of the mess we are in because i dont think they do

    Below is a list of our first team and my humble estimation of how many goals they might score till the end of the season
    1)Cisse 8
    2)Ben Arfa 4
    3)Cabaye 3
    4)Shola 2
    5)Anita 0
    6)Tiote 0
    7)Marveaux 1
    8)Obertan 0
    9)Jonas 0
    10)Santon 0
    11)Debuchy 0
    12)Taylor 0
    13)Collo 0

    Thats 18 goals and im being optimistic

    I am sorry to be a doom monger but with the number of goals we let in i think unless the 3 wise men dont get some good fist team players across the line we will be relegated.

    Mr Ashley are you prepared to get us relegated again and miss out on approx £60 mill in tv revenue ?

    Where his Pardue gone ?is he still our manager because he has gone very quiet and i wonder why?

  • 33 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    my sons typing some of the comments are his so hey just fire away

  • 34 lewytoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    haha probably both of them, least pardew likes him

  • 35 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    If they get this situation sorted and Collo decides to stay, even just till the summer, all get ready for Pardew’s “Hes like a new signing for us, we dont need a new CB with him on board” speech.

  • 36 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Can’t see Moyes joining us.

    Both Blanc and Deschamps have fallen out with Ben Arfa in the past.

    TS – I agree, compassionate makes sense, but it is hard to really get any gauge on what is best without really knowing what the actual issues at the heart of the matter are. I think if it was somebody being seriously ill, then surely Colo would have pushed for the meeting already?
    Equally, if it is him fooling around, he has made his bed, and should not receive special treatment just because he was a naughty boy.

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    lilongwe

    In all honesty I haven’t thought about it. I only watch odd games from outside of England so wouldn’t say with confidence which managers have the potential to do a good job for us.

    Solsjkaer…seems a good option from what I have heard of him. Respected in the game which always helps bring players in when they are 50/50 on two clubs.

    He was approached by villa so must have something about him.

    I’m not sure what managers like him, or from spain/france/holland etc expect in transfer market.

    I think the amount we spend isn’t too much of an issue…its more how we spend it. We don’t strengthen the right positions at the right time which isn’t ideal for a new manager as he will want players in to start with and get the team playing his way.

    I’d like to see this season out with pardew though. Presuming we stay up…if there is no real improvement in style of play then I think he needs to leave…he has the players to play a nice brand of football…even some fringe players can play a passing game..marvoux, bigi, fergi (not amazing all of them but can pass, only willo and krul struggle really).

    I would like an up and coming manager though…a laudrupp, a soljskaer…that kind of person…somebody young, had a few years managing though, who has something to prove.

  • 38 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    @tudor as a joke fair play. maybe i jumped the gun this time

  • 39 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    well you obviously love him i do not leave it there as time will tell

  • 40 Benji84 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    I just want to say the thing thats f*****g me right off with this whole saga is that no one in the headlines are saying that his misses is sick and he needs to go!!! All its saying is Collo wants to leave. Newcastle are shite the captain is jumping. For God Sake I feel the real issue is not being address. This is why I hate being a Toon supporter coz it feels that the press are always putting shite on which makes us look shitter than we really are. If Collo goes and its for his wife I say good on him. We would thank him for the years and lets smash the next two games and tell the Daily Mail and the telegraph and every other f****g blog, paper or website that there is one team you all want to support and thats the TOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 41 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Jarra….On Pardews recent silence…I would imagine it’s a case of fans wanting to hear something, but whenever anything is said it is not believed and met with anger by many fans. It is my hope and belief that they are working to bring in players and he’d rather send his message across with action rather than words.

    It may be as simple as Pardew cannot say with any certainty what is happening and can only say we are working on the various situations. Not going to appease anyone really.

  • 42 adwend // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    we let him go out the kindness of our hearts, san lorenzo sell him for 7 million in two years time

  • 43 NUFC141 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    with Fat Mike at the helm, wat makes you tink Colo can leave for free? i will squeeze a few mil out of him then spend it on other player. probably colo feels our club is not ambitious enough. juz wanna leave… or John terrty is tryin to hook up wif colo’s wife…

  • 44 croftus5678 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    hold on a min hows this any different than tapping a player up ?
    surely toon can sue for unsetling the player.
    and if collo was to buy out his contract would he have the millions to do it ? prob not i guess.
    not worried about him going as i think its just a temper tantrum that pards is dealing with in the best way to make him feel like it was his choice to stay.
    sign gomis and mbiwa pls

  • 45 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Pardew has gone quiet because he is off thinking up his long list of excuses as to why we have signed no body that we desperately need in this window.

    He has to think up why we have not replaced BA.

    He has to think up why we are going to let Collo, our captain, walk away for free, with no sign of a replacement.

    He has to think up why the board are not backing the ambitions or fulfilling promises made to the players.

    He has to think up why Saggy Chops Redknapp can talk a player into a club that sits adrift at the bottom of the table, over a club full of French players.

    He has to think up why he seems to have lost the morale and the never say die attitude that there used to be in that dressing room.

    He has to think up why the hell he still has his job after the run we have been on, with no sign of change.

  • 46 Spotlight Kid // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    What is it with the fathers of our central defenders? Is it some kind of paternal conspiracy – sign me, sign my dad, sort of thing? Over to you Mr Taylor senior?

    Increasingly this stinks of skullduggery, and I have always been a great admirer of Colo. Come on lad, out with it, wtf is really going on here?

  • 47 JARRAMAG // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    richyg01

    spot on

  • 48 Bambams // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Just found this on Latest Transfer Rumours (Newcastle)

    17 Jan 2013 09:19:49
    announcement TODAY from NUFC re Signings etc…watch this space…..

    This must be the weakest ITK comment of all time !

    Is this down to any of you boys ?

  • 49 SuperShearer // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    Rumours going round that San Lorenzo have now set a deadline for this?!! WTF, a deadline for what? Us to release one of our star players for free? And if we don’t? Then what? You’ll move onto other targets? Oh no! What will we do? Idiots.

  • 50 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    @47

    We all know the announcement.

    “We would like to confirm that Newcastle United have completed their in coming transfer activity in this window. The club cannot guarantee that players will not leave before the window closes, but we can only address these departures when/if they happen.”

  • 51 lesh // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Surely San Lorenzo must pay the going rate for Collo or Collo buys his contract out? We can’t be expected just to cancel his contract to have to spend a lot to replace him? Or are we?

  • 52 fray bentos // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Posters complaining about Pardew being silent

    Who cares?!?

    Maybe he is using that time to spend more time on the training field which is what counts?

    Im sure if he was doing loads of press conferences you would complain that he wasn’t spending enough time on the training field

    Stop complaining about nothing, if you want to complain, then complain about that dire game at Norwich

  • 53 stuart no9 // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    ibiza- i think ash wil just do enough to get by in the prem. staying up is a good year for him. as long as we are a “premier” side, he has all he needs to finance his lucrative babe (SD) .to some that may be fine – to me its not enough.
    as for bonus’s i dont know – but maybe if he was to pay a little better wages , we may not lose all these players that slip through the net, i dont mean stupid money , but his policy must be more flexible for the more “quality” players we have in our sights .

  • 54 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Stuart….Was just clarifying as it read to me that you didn’t think Ashley cared about league finish at all, so that could also included relegation, obviously not what you meant at all.

    I honestly think there is a line with Ashley and what he wants to achieve that people misconstrue a fair bit. Obviously the first hurdle is to stay in the PL, the money is too important to miss out on. After that it’s a balance between investment and return. I think he’s “trying” to spend like a mid-table club, but to build us as a club that can push the EL spots etc. I say trying as clearly in the summer they failed in spectacular fashion.

  • 55 Shiremagpies // Jan 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    morning gents… Ibiza hows tricks fine sir????

    I include myself in this comment so please feel free to have a pop… unlike many on here I can take a battering if deserved. but the point I want to make is how fickle we all seem to be….

    I say this because only 9 or so months ago we were all hailing pardew as ‘pardiola’ (im sure we all remember), now only a matter of months later he is more hated than Osama was by the US marines. all because of his apparent tactics…

    now I made this point the other night on this and stand by it 100%, now I agree that he will never be Sir alex or guardiolaesque but the guy is only playing to the strengths of the team at this time. he doesn’t/didn’t have cabaye, ben arfa, and others available to trick our way into the box so to me he didn’t have much other option.

    also on the gaurdiola for the toon thing wether joke or not,i ask you the question how do we even know if guardiola is a decent manager?????? jesus Christ Ibiza could walk into the barca dressing room tell them to play the way they have always played and be crowned the best manager in the world because he has apparently turned this barca into some super force when they were that long before he was appointed manager… get my point and Ibiza sorry for using you as an example bud.

  • 56 nufcusa // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    I personally think talk of sacking Pardew at this time is disgusting. We need to be focused on reading and villa not chopping and changing. If he was sacked today would that benefit us going into Saturday? No it would be like xisco’s debut and hull city at home all over again.

    Let’s get through two games and see where we fair. 6 points is the target, 4 is acceptable and less than that not good enough.

    We won’t sign anybody until after reading when we have 10 days between games. Focus on playing wirh a more attack minded attitude on Saturday with cabaye and Taylor on from the start and wait and see.

    Regarding Pardews silence. That is a good thing. Leave him to coach/manage. He is on tv far to often and should decline more interviews as there is only so much he can say anyway. I’d rather not hear him at all as hear spin which has no relevance.

  • 57 thepict // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    The whole thing stinks, if she is having medical treatment I can see why she left the kids with him. However, if it’s the case that he’s been a very naughty boy, why leave the kids with him? More to this than meets the eye and we will never know the full story.

  • 58 breno95 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    The decision in respect of Collo going has already been made. He is end of.
    The discussions are to negotiate how much Collo will have to part with to terminate his contract with NUFC.
    The reason is he is going to become a father again. The problem Collo is that his wife is not the expectant mother.




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