The QPR Chief Executive Philip Beard has insisted today that Loic Remy did not join the club for financial reasons – and obviously the Frenchman wanted to join a very famous club in London with one of the best grounds in the Premier League – not.
Philip Beard – QPR Chief Executive
And we have been waiting for somebody from QPR to say this since Remy signed earlier in the week – and it’s simply a load of tripe and onions – period. 
Remy even declined to meet with QPR manager Harry Redknapp when he traveled to France to see him, the week before last, and Harry has said many times that it will be difficult for QPR to attract good players in during the January transfer window, being rock bottom of the league.
But then there’s always the money – which is the only attraction QPR has to offer – let’s face it – they’ve signed over 15 players in the last twelve months – and Redknapp has complained about having too many overpaid players at QPR – who are average at best – but we notice that hasn’t stopped Harry from adding to them.
Bear put this on the QPR web-site today:
“This move isn’t motivated by money,” “Loic has a passion and desire to achieve in his career and similar to Julio Cesar, he wanted to be part of our project.”
“We know we haven’t achieved our goals so far this season, but he wanted to come in and help us build for the future.”
To say Remy’s move wasn’t motivated by money, when he was offered £85K/week by a small London club with a very small ground – twice what Newcastle offered him – is being self deceptive at best – and it’s a mistake for Philip Beard to try to say otherwise – it’s simply embarrassing.
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1 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Ibiza
Going off the section of the site you posted this is the figure that comes out for last 5 years.
£-38.3 spend so a huge profit.
I’m not saying it should all be spent on transfer fees though…there is things that cost money in clubs and a year in the championship will have not helped financially.
2 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM
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3 markmac // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM
fcuk him, he’s gone elsewhere now for what ever reason, im sick of hearing about the ‘nearly gots’ !! who’s [if anyone] is our new target[s] ?????
4 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM
WE DO NOT CARE!!!
Remy is old news, move on.
5 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Third times lucky….
TS…Leaving out the 07/08 season? Either way £7m odd is only peanuts
I can only speculate about the relegation cost and requirement, but let’s say we just say that seasons figures were a write off you can knock £24m out there.
Not saying we’ve been big spenders, as clearly we haven’t. Just some perspective is needed before claims of we make a profit on transfers almost every window.
6 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Yes yes, we all heard, a game of FIFA 12 swayed him
lol
By the way, this might be a long short, but Kaka wants away from Real asap!
…would he be interested maybe? Can we afford him? (the idea of Kaka intrigues me
)
7 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM
I don’t think it was just money at QPR though…he has been made a lot of promises in terms of where the club is headed and like you say he has the get out of it doesn’t work.
If they get m’villa, looks done, then thats another good player and they have a good chance to stay up as they look much better under Harry.
8 rainrix // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM
I dont see why the hell we don’t explore loan deals as a avenue for getting players, such as that player from udinese who’s available (forgot his name). If we’re going to be tight on money this window then why don’t we get several players on loan to tide us over to the end of the season. Then we can reassess in the summer and hopefully the bumper PL deal should give us some solid transfer funds.
I know its short term thinking but surely its better then 1 signing in whats looking like the most important transfer window for us in some time
9 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Oh well. We can get him for free in the summer…. if the club still want him.
10 Magpie Myles // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Repost:
Maybe this is optimism but…I feel like we are building to something big in this transfer window. I think by the end we will have a new cf a new cb and maybe a midfielder/suprise signing.
I cant see Ashley not putting some money in the team, maybe all our deals will be under the radar. I just think we will be happy come the end of the transfer window.
But like i said maybe its just optimism.
11 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM
ibiza.
I just took this season and then the previous 4.
The interesting stat is that spurs net spend over the same period is only +7mil I think.
They have done very well selling at the right time and using that money very very well.
12 radja in Indonesia // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Enough is enough !! Remy is not the best player in the world..!! Move on……..
13 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM
@9
If we don’t go down too!!
14 greg // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Remy: i didnt go QPR for money, i went there for my dream
Reporter: So what is your dream?
Remy: Earn a lot of money
15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM
TS…do you think a game of FIFA 12 can sway M’Vila as well or do you think he’ll demand that it has to be FIFA 13?
…someone call Lamearse and tell him to buy FIFA 13 (it’s not money they want to an owner who want to play a game of FIFA with them) lol
16 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Seriously, Remy has signed for QPR, let’s stop sounding like bitter tw@s and move on. He met representatives from both clubs, was offered more money and probably a more ambitious plan by one, and was offered less cash, but a lower risk of relegation and I’d imagine no release clause at another. Given that we are both struggling in the league and could feasibly both go down why is it such a shock?
Anyway, please make this the last Remy article you post, at least until we play them at the end of the season Ed.
17 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM
I think there is a pool of talent in the Championship that should be looked at.
Such as Tom Ince or Adam Reach of ‘Boro.
Fraction of the price of Remy, will give 110% for the team.
18 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM
so does cashley make money thru the toon or not.Does he make money if we are relagated by payoffs and transfers, so if he doesent speculate to accumulate and just lets us roll thats his gamble
19 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM
TS….To be completely honest, if they had conducted business correctly in the summer I wouldn’t give a care to whether we had gained money overall, amounts don’t really interest me, it’s what we have available to us with regards to players, not their price tags.
Spurs are a great example of selling and buying wisely. Up until the summer, i would have said us as well, but it’s a hard argument at the minute
20 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM
rainrix
It’s a great idea.
If we stick to our policy of only buying top target and if we cant get them waiting til they become available then loans make sense.
If we have a good standard of young player in that position i’d rather play him than do a loan, but we don’t have many good kids in the academy, therefore a loan wont really stifle their progress.
21 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Rumors from Italy said that NUFC are now looking for the chance to bring either Alessandro Matri or Fabio Quagliarella from Juventus. As a Juventus fan and NUFC fan as well, I think the deal will be just great. Matri would be my first choice, 28 year old, strong and got pace. Although seem to be way out of form, still a very solid CF that NUFC is much needed now. If Juve gets Drogba or Llorente this window, we can even get him from loan. (From what I know the salary is around 150m-200m euro per year.) What you guys think?
22 therush12 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Ed Absolutely love the sarcasm in the first paragraph.
On Remy:-
I Think everyone should just move on fast, it’s the world of football at the end of the day i bet it’s not the first time a player rejected us!
The only reason people are making a bigger deal out of it is simply because we get 1 name leaked to us and i think everyone goes overboard on how great they are. It happens all the time soon as a player name gets linked with us people start doing their predicted transfers and always start name dropping those players.
Surely NUFC should have other targets at the ready, you can’t pin your hopes on one man.
I hope they just concentrate on bringing in a top CB and maybe a squad or prospect that can be called upon when needed, and of course another good striker
- Just my views don’t shoot me down, never posted properly on here before!
23 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM
jesper
I will even lend them my fifa 13 and ps3 if it will get them over the line.
Ibiza
Amounts don’t concern me either really, don’t care if we spend £2mil each year…as long as it gets us players of the right quality money is irrelevant from my point of view.
richyg
Boro have some great players…george friend would be a perfect signing. A CB who can, and does a lot, play LB. Tall, strong, good pace, makes good runs at the right time, good cross, good in the air…just what we need. He was great against swansea this year as well.
24 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM
i like him too but the gaffer does not fancy him
25 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Martin – 150m – 200m Euro per year? Where did you get that figure from? Even if you knock a zero off you are still hugely out of NUFC budget.
26 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM
John Tudor…I don’t know with any certainty, but I assume the following:
Ashley can’t make money from the club until it is making money itself.
As and when Ashley does take money out, it will be to repay his loan. Until that is repaid, he’s not making money form NUFC.
His other company SD would seemingly get free advertising from the toon, which is profitable to Ashley, so there is an argument of benefit, but not a direct simple transaction like taking money from the club. I don’t know figures, but I’d imagine this is somewhat offset against the interest free loan.
Whether we stay up or go down Ashley can sell our players. I’d imagine they’d sell for more if we were in the PL and not in a desperate need to sell, so would assume he’d rather we stayed up, especially with the extra money PL clubs receive.
We’ll know how he views things over the next couple of weeks.
27 rainrix // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM
Sage…. The problem obviously is if they are starters at the club like PEA then they aren’t going to be happy sending him on loan, They’d want him gone with the full transfer fee.
Its tricky but something we should explore.
28 Les Grossman // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM
Heres my other take on all this…
Silence from the club is deafening….
Maybe just maybe, they have a decent signing or two ready to unveil tomorrow, to give the club a BIIIIG Lift before heir crusial game with reading??
I am living in hope here, nothing else just hope!
29 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
we can all put forward a great selection of players who without a doubt will perfom if they got a chance to come here but we know the same old story we tried but blah blah blah i only hope im wrong
30 Scottiedog // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
How much would it cost to get Rickie Lambert??? I know he is 30 (??) but how many more would he score in a stronger team!?!?!
31 Les Grossman // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
and if im right……we should start hearing things filter through later this evening???
C’Mon the toon!!
Give the battered fans something to smile about FFS!!
32 Ian Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Yer right! Me thinks they protest too much!
33 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:33 PM
Les…You would like to think there would be some crowd control going on giving all of the current plight. As there isn’t I am clinging on the hope there is good news coming so they don’t feel the need to let us know what’s going on to any extent. Good laugh this hoping business!
34 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM
thanx ibizatoon for clarafying that so to me imho he couldnt care less
35 SuperShearer // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM
It’s been very quiet on the transfer front since the Remy deal fell through. This is either VERY good news or VERY bad news. It’s impossible to tell. But if the powers that be pull off another Papiss Demba Cisse move of shocking us with a new signing then more power to them.
36 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM
From last post. @martin33 sorry I mis read your post. Yearly salary, not what I thought was 150thousand euros per week. In which case yeah that’s not bad, but at 28 would they take the gamble, you know what they’re like for sell-on value.
37 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM
This sums up Remy’s decision to join QPR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJDTiG7YXk4
38 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Lilongwe Geordie
sorry mate mis typed. I mean 1.5m-2m per year. like 40K/week.
39 Spotlight Kid // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Bobby Moncur commented earlier:
“Harry Redknapp is a good talker. But surely he could listen to the French lads already here at Newcastle.”
But maybe he did listen to them? Maybe they knew something about Remy that Carr & Pardew didn’t (or weren’t prepared to admit) and took it upon their own collective shoulders to block the move? Maybe the French cabal scuppered the deal deliberately by unsettling Remy’s resolve, especially with all the talk of lack of ambition and wanting away? Le skulduggery… J’accuse!
Either way it’s old news, and we are well rid of the guy.
This is yet another lucky break for Ashley – so get back the bloody transfer cherry!!
40 Les Grossman // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM
The silence is bizarre?
Maybe they only had R*** lined up after all???
41 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM
John…Just my views of course. Why don’t you think he couldn’t care less? He may not personally care for the club, but for a man who seems to live his life based around financial gain, surely he has to care about his investment? I think the debate is to what extent not that he doesn’t care at all. What do you think?
42 WesJameson // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM
@ Les Grossman // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Loving your enthusiasm mate, kind of refreshing to be honest
Just think, well from past experience….nothings going to happen, and we’re going to get the same speech about, how we tried our best, and its the agents fault, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah……
43 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM
trying to drum up buisness fat sam
Hands off our players is clear warning from Hammers boss
http://www.london24.com/sport/west-ham/hands_off_our_players_is_clear_warning_from_hammers_boss_sam_1_1796422
44 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM
I stand correct from my previous post
Rumors from Italy said that NUFC are now looking for the chance to bring either Alessandro Matri or Fabio Quagliarella from Juventus. As a Juventus fan and NUFC fan as well, I think the deal will be just great. Matri would be my first choice, 28 year old, strong and got pace. Although seem to be way out of form, still a very solid CF that NUFC is much needed now. If Juve gets Drogba or Llorente this window, we can even get him from loan. (From what I know the salary is around 1.5M-2M euro per year, which is around 40K/week in GBP What you guys think?
45 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8402704?
No Gomis.
46 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:40 PM
John Tudor
I think at the worst Mike Ashley wants us to stay in the prem league.
If he wants us just as ‘free advertising’ and to be breaking even, until he finds a buyer to make his money back then being in the prem league is key to that.
Whether he wants us to survive, top ten, challenge for the top 4 is up for debate….but he certainly wants us to stay in the league.
47 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:40 PM
From last post @Markaccus
I knew Zenit or Fenerbah have once made official bid around 10M Euro last summer (Matri scores 10 goals last season) but the offer has been turned down from both Juve and the player. Since He is now quite a rotation player of Juve, the price is expected around 7M euro. I think a loan deal would be perfect for us (probably like 500K-1M euro loan fee) as a resonable and solid recruitment for the rest of the season. In that ideal case, we can save money for bringing CD.
48 two steps forward one step back // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Ibiza TS
Basically we have netted somewhere between £35-40m in the last few years.
This is on an overall investment of what ? £300m from Batman.
If so at 10% that is a very good return in his investment.
Don’t forget he can write down losses against tax.
Nice business model and not a bad 5 year plan from year zero. No wonder he wants to buy cheap and sell high.
If only he would realise that NUFC trading without the 60% increase in TV revenues next season, even with a small parachute, is total stupidity.
Fizzy pop here we come ?
49 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM
I would entertain a loan move for Kaka and Diego Fabbrini with an option to buy (we only have 14 days to wrap our transfers up and it took the club more than that to place a bit for Remy)
…I am seriously not feeling this
50 ArtyH // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM
They are ALL in it for the MONEY Ba none!
Really who can blame anyone for NOT coming to the toon now? 5th last year and possible relegation this with an owner who will not back his manager, but htis should have been done last year not now. Would not be suprised if some more of our ” purple ” player piss off.
To compete in the premire you really need two top teams as is plainly obvious now.
51 tweaked // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM
seems AP’s shortlist is just getting shorter, like his will to succeed at the toon, no gomis, no remy nobody…. gees it feels like summer deja vu
52 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM
well does he not see that he has a problem to keep us up or as i said if we go down god forbid he is happy with relagation payment and the sale of players money .im crap @ maths but someone may tell me
53 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Ian
You say this after every match. when exactly is it time for recriminations? Is only 2 wins in 17 not bad enough yet?
What is your tipping point? Even you must have one as you surely can’t enjoy the dross we’ve seen all season.
Pardew is safe only because ashley and llambias know squat about football. That’s the tragedy of it. A big club would not have pardew as manager.
Gameiro and sakho on loan problem solved
54 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Martin,
Ha, no worries, I thought it was a typo, but thought you had meant 15 – 20 which is still huge. At 1.5-2 then it could have legs, and could be worth looking at, but I think at 28 the club will probably not pursue.
Les,
The silence is odd, even the number of rumours have seemingly hit a wall today. Granted, there can’t be that many people left to link us with, but it does give you a feeling that they have something up their sleeve.
55 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Great news:
Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas claims that Bafetimbi Gomis has turned down the chance to leave the club this month.
56 martoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Magpie Myles @10 I hope you are right. But what I don’t understand is we’ve had months to decide on our targets and do some initial negotiations – similar to Debuchy. So why are there no more bodies through the door with the exception of a striker because of Remy.
57 Les Grossman // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Anita One.
I am not fussed at all by this.
Gomis is exactly the same player as Cisse, except i rate cisse slightly more as he is quicker than Gomis.
Hope that the rumours re Gomis are all they were due to the fact someone read an offer on Dorty Dekkas Desk for Gomez….
Now that would be good
58 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM
my solution to colo is you stay and we’ll bring in san lorenzo’s plan b too play alongside you
59 two steps forward one step back // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Ibiza @ 26
Unless we are seeing a simple timing of the asset stripping for max lucre that these sharks love
60 Ian Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Ibiza@ 26- What a logical mind. Bet you studied the classics and Latin. What about the benefit in kind regarding free advertising. Can a case be made by HMRC for paying tax on this ? Discuss.
Talk about trying to defend the indefensible on Remy! Even the local newsagent had it sussed yesterday and said we would be causing dressing room dissent to match the package. I liked Bollance’s point that QPR going down along with Redknapp then the cycle could start all over again. Redknapp would bring Remy into his new club and away you go!
61 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM
@martin33. Loans are a good option for us, we can recruit experienced players whod be out of range otherwise, short term, save ourselves, and recruit PROPERLY in summer for once. How many loans are we alowed? Take fabbrini and matri on loan. Spend whole cash budget for this window on two GOOD Centre backs.
62 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM
two steps
I think Ashley genuinely bought the club with ambition to make it a good club at the top of the league.
I don’t think he realised just how much money was around in football and that he couldn’t compete with the top dogs.
I think he now is using us to advertise his company world wide (has grown massively since he had us).
I do think he wants us as high up the league as possible but will not break his financial plans to get us there so just goes for as best as possible.
I genuinely think that if somebody offered him good money for the club he would take it now.
63 Williamsonsuks // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM
The guy might be talking crap, but at least he made a statement of some kind.
64 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM
scottiedog
not sure we are a stronger team than southampton any longer, they have people like ramirez these days and adkins has them playing some good stuff like last night.
65 Tsunki // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Sissoko wanting 3m euros /year now let’s see per week that’s (tapping on calculator). – oh. I see.
66 Robby Bobson // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Im hearing rumours that this guy has been identified to save our season. Add some power to the front line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xf7qKLwiQ
67 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Haha, I have just got a message from a friend who says his workmate claims to have seen Darren Bent in Jesmond. I can only assume he was taking supplies to wherever Barnetta is hiding out.
Just so you know, I don’t believe Bent is in Toon, and I am only an ITK if it involves Malawian football!
68 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Markaccus…I think we are allowed four domestic loans, but one one from each club.
…i am not sure how many foreign club players we are allowed to borrow. Anyone knows?
69 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM
John….Sadly it’s not a question of math at this point, just seeing what he does this window. The manager has stated he knows where we are at with regards to relegation so I think it’s fair to say he’s told the board. It really is down to them now.
Two Steps….That’s 10% over 5 years, about 2% a year. That’s not a great return in my book and really only includes transfers. I’ve still not seen anything to date to show that Ashley has gained financially out of NUFC other than SD advertising. They’ve gamble before, I just can’t see how or why he’s do it again now, but hey, what do I know?
70 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Mornin martoon. Another day of rumour and gossip so far! Other than that, we have a long string of posts about Remy. Nothing new in other words
71 Spreadthetoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM
repost from previous thread
Our transfer window has been very quiet and it is disappointing that no new faces have come in as yet…other than Debuchy which I consider part of the last window.
As for Remy, many football experts have questioned his ambition and rationale for his career. If he was serious about his football then he would have come here and then after a while gone to one of the better teams. Perhaps if his ambition is solely money then he is less concerned about his football. Note that I highly rated Hoillett and was disappointed that he chose QPR over us, its no different to Remy. Its just the manner in which he has gone about it that’s so disappointing.
As for the remainder of the window, it is very likely that we will hear nothing from the club until a player has been signed. Remember is was Remy and OM who advertised the prospective interest from Newcastle, they were angling for better deals…..that IMO should not be allowed. I do however feel that the PR and relations of then club with fans could be massively improved with better communication, or some reassurances that work is still being done and progressing with other targets in mind. Really hope we get the 3+ players we desperately need!
72 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Tsunki…£50k is probably within reason (or a performance based contract on £45k)
73 Tsunki // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Robby – I dunno youtube always makes these lads look fantastic.
74 noladonna // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM
f remy weve moved on heard another prem club has bid for m’villa hope its us bit of payback on qpr would be nice right about now
75 ganiyu // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Are french players better than italian players in terms of achievements. Pls leave remy alone its his only chance to make money..matri is more better and cheaper.
76 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM
thats fair comment ibiza but it still intrigues me to know those figures including drop money and potential sales amounts
77 Toon_Jock // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Being linked with Graham again…
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8401043/Danny-Graham-wants-a-move-back-to-his-native-North-East-Sky-Sports-understands
Whats everyone think about him like?
78 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Two Steps…Whilst not a believer in that theory, I did pose the same question earlier about asset stripping. A chance to recoup the loan by player sales and then selling the club – would he make out? Would we be happy to get rid of Ashley and co if it meant getting rid of all the big players? Basically putting us back to square one needing a new owner, probably manager and a team.
I don’t think so, but I can see it.
Ian….Does my post to two step throw your logical mind statement in to oblivion?
As for HMRC – No comment, I haven’t a clue.
79 boater // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM
I think we only need a new centre back if Colo goes. Willo is nowhere near as bad as people make out. Bringing someone new and unacclimatised from another league to play in defense is an incredibly high risk strategy considering our league position. Let’s upgrade the defense in the summer.
We’ve lacked firepower all season – and that’s before our only goalscorer worthy of the name left.
80 AusMagpie // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Does Ed read the comments posted on his forum? I don’t know how many times I’ve seen people post comments and are completely over this Remy thing. It’s like dwelling over an ex girlfriend – a waste of time.
81 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM
@Markaccus
agree with you mate.
For centre backs, there is also a rumor said NUFC is after Angelo Obinze Ogbonna from Turino. The centre back has been involved to Italy international in the Euro 2012 but not made appearance.
The difficulty would be that NUFC has to face the race from some Italian clubs like Napoli, Lazio and even AC milan. Also the transfer fee is expected beyond 10m Euro as a solid 24 year-old. He is currently the captain of Turino and the club is also struglling with relegation risk.
82 noladonna // Jan 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM
whos trying to hijack m’villa move to qpr?? anyone heard anything, hope its us that would be nice after hearing harry boasting about hes in the bag
83 Robby Bobson // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM
How a 23 year old whos had a few good seasons in ligue 1 can ask for 50k a week is beyond me.
Just like how an out of form striker who isnt proved outside of ligue 1 is getting 80k a week…
The signings of Italians scare me…hard to thing of many italian success stories in the prem.
84 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Boater
I think a CB is vital.
Not just because I don’t rate willo but also because we only have 2 CB’s as taylor hasn’t managed over 14 games for 5 years.
85 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM
John Tudor…Intriguing indeed, however I hope we don’t get the chance to know what the relegation costs are, as that would likely mean we were relegated! I’ve given up on players valuations these days, something is only worth what people will pay, so pick any number really.
86 stretchintoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM
Im one of the unluckiest people around when it comes to gambling so im thinking i might have a tenner on us not to sign anyone & a tenner on us to go down,we should be ok then.
87 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM
We should now be looking at Doumbia, Zarate, Sulejmani and Gameiro. We need two of those in.
88 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Aus…To be fair to Ed, there are a fair few people still bringing it up in the comments section, so whilst many of us are sick about hearing his name, others clearly are still interested on some level.
Hopefully bigger news will brush this aside soon.
89 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM
yes but you get x amount to cover a drop then yes any figure for his top players but i bet the figure in his eyes far outways spending more money now
90 Robby Bobson // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Ketsbia..i always thing signing a player like Doumbia is alot less risky then someone like Gameiro.
If both take time to settle in the prem, at least Doumbia has always got the pace and power asset.
Unconvicned on Sulijemani, seems like a bad egg…so was hatem tho i suppose.
91 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM
so if he sees thats the option or trying to stay up with what he has ,injuries included someone is failing badly somewhere in the club imho i have my candidates
92 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM
@toon jock, Grahams probably going to the makems. If we get him, it would be as back up to cisse and hopefully another foward.
@martin33, I like the sound of him, young solid defender, but we probably can’t out-pull milen et.c. Unless he fancies playing outside italy, of course.
93 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Ketsbaia9
cannot agree with Zarate. Extremly selfish player with good dribbling skills. But still too selfish to pass the ball wisely.
94 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Kets, gameiro wasn’t interested in summer, why would he come now, when we’re struggling. Come on, fella, no one minds an optimistic post, but some thought into the players you ask for would be good!
95 One comment a day // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM
FFS Ed we don’t give a toss about Remy, stop living in the past, he’s gone- history- not interested -pack it in!!
Danny Graham is going to scum.
96 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM
My list of Ketsplayers: messi, falcao, elvis, lord lucan, paul scharner(of course) and Jesus. Should cost about 30milion, and a fee for a clarvoyant to bring back the dead people I have mentioned.
97 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM
John…Have done a little research. The parachute payments from the FA are now £12m per season for 4 years, unless you get promoted back in which case payments stop. So, if we were relegated, over the next 4 years the club would receive £48m.
I can’t find any clear figures for the implication of the new TV deal, but from what I have read I would imagine the club would see around that £48m figure each season by staying up, so it’s clearly in his interest to stay up. Back to the original point, what does Ashley make of it all? We’ll see over the next two weeks.
98 GAZ09 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Whatever happened about Mirin?
99 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Mike Ashley spotted in his home hard at work on NUFC transfer targets
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.twowholecakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/scrooge-mcduck.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blog.twowholecakes.com/2011/03/short-cuts-narcissism-edition/scrooge-mcduck/&h=316&w=400&sz=64&tbnid=-JFyVu6kTa4ozM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=120&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dscrooge%2Bmcduck%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=scrooge+mcduck&usg=__zcmZ3rBjX3VhBV9_60gjz-go23s=&docid=uCU-ThSswvVRMM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=z_n3UM-VIaG_0QW7-YHgBA&sqi=2&ved=0CDoQ9QEwAQ&dur=331
100 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Markaccus
I will choose Shaquille O’Neal as a CF. I think only he can got the cross from our wingers.lol
101 noladonna // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM
zarate no thanks, gameiro pass also the guys slow small not made for the premier league that lad plus hes turned us down once that’s it you had your chance hope we are in for m’villa and ogbanna get a loan in up front
cant believe nobody’s buying sneijder for 6 million would like to see what he can do in the premier league
102 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Mark….Even Kets has been affected by this window. He’s only saying we need two in.
103 Robby Bobson // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Ashley seems like a very proud man and ruthless to all rivals in all his business except for NUFC.
He is worth more 3 times more than Tony Fernandes, so would love for him to take it personally and show him whos boss by go splashing big on quality players.
One can only wish. If something like this happened in his retial businesses, there would be a big ‘ill show you whos boss’ statement.
What we need is for another club or chairman to really really piss him off.
104 Martin33 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM
@noladonna
sneijder is way from form and haven’t played regularly in Serie A this season. His attitude is also a massive problem for any club (If Inter is not enough, think about Real Madrid). He can make magical passes but he can also waste his talent on taking too many long shots
105 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM
We definitely don’t need Siem De Jong. We need a proper striker. What about Marc Antoine Fortune? He’d be a cheap option.
106 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM
40 mill over 4 year. sell top players run club down sell cheaply poss get his money back. if he were to do this he would be gone this would please me. but you will all shoot me down for it. hopefully it is just paranoia on my part and he will spend wisely keep us up, turn us into a top 4 side rebuild the poplar side of the ground 80,000 plus. but hey what the hell its only my honest opinon
107 jettson1971 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM
i keep saying it. transfer business is over, we have made another transfer window profit and that is all thy care about!!
108 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:25 PM
@99 very funny who is the best quarterback to get in goal for the long pass to him
109 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:25 PM
Robby Bobson,
Fernandes has Lakshmi Mittal backing him up, who financially dwarfs Ashley.
110 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Jettson,
How have we made profit? We brought in around 5mill, and spent around 6?
111 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM
day 17
why are ppl still writing stuff about how we never got remy
this issue is still we need a CB more than a forward
what was all this twaddle mick lowes said las week,, we had 4 deals nearly done,, so why are we only talking about 1 player
where are the other 3
112 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM
where is bill gates or someone with clout who loves the toon
113 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM
John Tudor…..I think your usage of “poss” really sums it up. He could possibly get his money back, whereas staying in the PL he will get his money back. I can only speculate as to what his long term intentions are, but I can almost 100% say he wants us to stay up. It’s how he thinks he can achieve that which is worrying me, clearly it’s not selling our top scorer (not blaming Ashley, but that’s reality) and bringing in a RB. More is needed imo.
Over to you big boy, put a smile on some Geordies faces will ya!
114 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM
We’ll probably end up signing Jack Hunt and his younger brother called Mike.
115 Robby Bobson // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Lilongwe Geordie…ah i didnt know that, thoguht fernandes had brought it outright.
On a different note, if a newcastle player did that tackle vincent kompany did, no way would have that had been rescinded.
I dont think it should be a foul, but if wilshere nicks that round him, he breaks his leg. Theres alot less worst that hasnt been resciended this season
116 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:30 PM
if we go down,, we will not come back up straight away
we will lose players like , cabaye, HBA, colo , debuchy, the ones we will be left with will be simpson, williamson jonas shola
117 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Hahaha, the toon with a shack-attack!
@ibiza, yeah kets only wants two in, but it will still be someone like superman and batman, and maybe the green lantern on loan!
118 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM
catchy…Sky Sports are running a poll on what our priority positions for incomings are.
It says 3% think a GK is most important
Most think ST, although I still think CB edges it for me. We are where we are and whilst we all want to see some flair and excitement right now I want to see points and the best bet is to stop conceding so many goals. We’ve upgraded Simpson, now for a CB.
Jettson….On the season Ashley is down, so should we expect another sale before business if officially over?
119 jettson1971 // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM
£7m in for B a and £5.5m out for Debuchy, plus a likely saving on wages, therefore in my eyes money in the bank
120 noladonna // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM
@Martin33
yeah but still hes a top player i reckon he would good a man united im sure fergie could handle him
121 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM
John Tudor, lol, I didn’t realise Bill Gates was a toon fan!! I have 2 friends here who work for the Gates Foundation, I’ll get them to put a word in!
122 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM
i still wouldn’t mind graham if it saves us relying on shola so much
123 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM
this would make me happy tell colo he must stay and the hijack san lorenzos plan b and any further QPR signings not because of broken remy coz of candle face and his wheeler dealer shananagins
124 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM
mark….
125 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Jettson,
We didn’t get 7mill for Ba, around 2.2mill went to the player and his agents.
126 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Lilongwe…Please don’t let facts and real figures get in the way of a whinge….do you not know how this blog works?
127 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Catchy,
You are being too optimistic, Simpson won’t stay he is out of contract!
128 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM
mr gates loves everything in black and white so he can see everything
129 bollance // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Decision already taken on Colo. Not ITK but if he stays we woud have announced already. Reason ‘meeting delayed’ is to sign replacement. If news announced this week we would be in weak bargaining position buying replacement.
Hope i am wrong, doubtless Colo will help us suvive this season.
130 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Ibiza,
Please accept my sincerest apologies. I momentarily forgot where I was.
ASHLEY OUT!
Better?
131 bollance // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Simpson will do exactly what Guthrie did. Leave on a free = big pay day for player and agent.
Difference is last season we needed Guthrie.
132 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:40 PM
@john tudor…lmao @ candle face! That’s a new one to me! I think people should list all the nicknames they’ve heard for ‘arry. See if there are many new ones:
Steak face, floppy chops, droopy, dog chops, burns victim face, candle face, crook, melt face. Any more?
133 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Lilongwe…..Almost there. You need to give a reason for Ashley to be out. Whether justified or not
Catchy the optimist. There you go, people needed something to smile about, enjoy it.
134 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Bollance
Do you really think the same mike ashley who hasn’t managed to open his wallet to buy the 1 CB we have needed desperately for 2 years let his main CB leave for free?
Not a chance for me.
135 No Plain Saylor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:42 PM
CAN WE MOVE THE F#CK ON?! seriously like, the fans the club the board pards, are we all gonna think about remy for the last 14 days of the window?! He’s not tha special, we weren’t close to signing messi. We were close to signing an injury prone, egotistical lad with heart problems.. We’ll be alright, next target, no more stories about him. In fairness qpr could easily finish ahead of us, If they take in M’Vila, Remy and god knows who else… And we lose colo and do fekal? He joined a club with a better manager and a club that shows more ambition than us. Depressin but true
136 Munster Mag // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Ian, I dont think we are as silent or as stealthy in transfers as people like to think. Still lets hope. We all need a lift. If there is another flat performance v Reading I think the clamour will rise for Pardew to go, and rightly so. Hopefully we will do well, and get 3 points. I just cant think that we would fight back they way did v WBA ….a bad sign.
137 bollance // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Doubtless there is cash to spend but there is also the neccessity to buy the correct player.
It will be a long time before we can retain our talent. That day will come if we make the progress we have made barring the past 3 months. Unfortunately u cant pretend the bad times have not happened, if only!
So, until we get there we must accept the conveyor belt mentality of the club. Buy players at the bottom, develop then sell. As the club grows so too the ability to attract better youngster. Once we have more cash in the bank and a developed global brand we can then push for Champs league.
Our luck will change. Can it get any worse?
138 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:47 PM
QPR will be the new man city….they have the money and have gone through the same patter as city.
1. get a rich owner
2. hire mark hughes
3. have him sign a load of past it or poor players on big wages
4. sack mark hughes
5.bring in a manager and let him buy proper players.
139 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:49 PM
TS….So that’s where Ashley went wrong…we needed Hughes a few years back
140 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:49 PM
ibiza
we have options up front that we can mix and match formations to see us through to the end of the season,
shola, HBA , campbell CISSE,,
where at CB we have 3 , and one of those have been out all season, and with his record for injury,, carnt be trusted to last until the end if he got fit
Lilongwe Geordie
very true
looking at the squad we have right now,
i could cry when i look at the table,,
pardew should be strung up by his balls
141 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM
Catchy….That is where I am at. CB priority. I’d love other areas as well, but if it’s a question of only one, then CB.
On your Pardew comment, I thought he didn’t have balls?
Bollance…Don’t tempt anything…could it get worse…yup.
142 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Ibiza…isn’t Mark Hughes available?
143 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:53 PM
the right player young cheap and expirienced= hens teeth
my thoughts 4 cb youngish cheap hungry =loads just buy some
144 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:54 PM
if crap just move on
145 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Jesper….Why yes he is! Pardew out! But wait, we’ve already got the proper players mentioned in step 5, I feel we may have missed the golden opportunity.
146 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Munster Mag
i know this is wrong,, but id take a defeat v reading if it ment pardew was out the door, and trust me,, he will take a huge step towards the door if it happens,,
these games v reading and norwich where 6 pointers, he got 1 from norwich which is no good as we sliped a place, and if reading do win, they will be only 2 points behind
147 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 1:56 PM
ala young bradford irish kid cb
148 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM
THE WORST PART IS I DONT THINK ASHLEY WILL EVER SELL UP. LOOK AT GLAZERS, THEY GOT AN OFFER OF A BILLION.
149 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Good to see San Lorenzo chairman Matias Lammens is capable of putting himself in Newcastle’s place!
http://www.soccerway.com/news/2013/January/17/san-lorenzo-doubtful-on-coloccini-move/?
150 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Catchy,
You are thinking Pardew has the tactical nous to use different set ups and tactics there? Also he has sent Campbell back to the U21′s for game time, suggesting he won’t get any at first team.
I agree, Cb is hugely important, even more so if Colo goes, but if Pardew can’t get his tactics right then goalscoring will become a huge issue. Norwich was one of the most uninspiring attacking performances in a long time, yet Pardew came out and said we looked much better. That worries me.
151 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Ibiza
We have missed the boat with it I’m afraid.
We must follows the 5 step plan…or was it 5 year plan…anyway…back to step one…new owner please
152 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Ibizatoon
then by his neck
153 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Ibiza…I think you are right! where did we go wrong then
154 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
is this the best excuse he can come up with not a mention of we are in the process of making signings that will ease this situation we are in.
Pardew had this to say last week:
‘We had youngsters playing today who should be in the development side,’
‘We are missing too many of our top players and we need them back and quickly.
‘The truth is I’ve not put out our best team in a single game this season.’
155 JARRAMAG // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Ibiza
the new deal is going to pay the bottom premier team approx £60mill so if Ashley takes us down again he will lose £48 mill per season that he spends in the lower leagues
156 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM
watching nufc is like a sick man dying everyday little by little.
157 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Lilongwe Geordie
i think pardew is a worthless sack of shit that is very lucky to have a job at our club
i did not like the football last year, i think he has no idea how to run a club,
i think his man managment skills are among the worst iv ever seen ( unless your obertan shola jonas)
his idea of football ,
long ball
score goal
shut up shop
no other back up plan
158 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Catchy,
Can’t have that I’m afraid. Couldn’t want us to lose. Like you say it may put Pardew a step closer to being out of a job, but then we would need to lose to villa, that’s another step, then Chelsea and Spurs, probably only 1 step losing both those. By this point it would be very tough to recover!
159 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Jesper…Injuries?
Catchy….Or give him the players he wanted and see how he does? Nah!
TS….It was 5 something….
160 geordiesteve520 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Anyone seen the story on Sky about Wesley Schneider? Inter accepted £6.2 million for him, get him in now, bollocks to wage ceiling!
161 Markaccus // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM
All those comments are true, john. Just highlights our desperate need for signings.
162 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM
@ comment 82
Zola, di Matteo, Vialli, di Canio, Santon, Balotelli, to name a few
163 joeinthecheapseats // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Plan B seems to have gone AWOL this week thought after all off last weeks spiel we would have had a few players coming in.
Cannot see Colo being allowed to leave as although Saylor is due back his injury record is terrible and come March we won’t have any suitable back up.
People call Ashley a gambler but he can’t be as its time to take the punt and get us away from the relegation battle it’s clear for all to see.
Three signings should have been in at start of the week to try and secure six points from the next two games splash
They cash boys.
164 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM
jarramag i thought it was 40 over 4 my point was does he think spend 0 stay up /or go down get 40 or now 60 sell top players =100 and just say bye
165 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM
jarra….Thanks for that. Further backs up my point that Ashley can’t want to be relegated. Doesn’t make sense on any level. Let’s see what he does to prevent it.
166 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Catchy,
I know that’s your thoughts on Pardew, which is why I’m confused you feel he can utilise our attacking options in such a way that we aren’t desperate for firepower to see us through the season.
167 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Lilongwe Geordie
for me its all these guys saying gave him until the end of the season,,
they say he got us to 5th and deserves that,,
teams like reading and southampton are winning games now because they can play football, the only reason there down there is because there players arnt that good,,
pardew has them in the wrong positions or playing very deep,,
we have got some of the very best players in the league at our club,, but you couldnt tell
if we lose , we need the fans at the ground to make the right noices,,
we need both DL and AP out of the club and replaced with ppl who know there jobs
168 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM
john
To sell the club for anywhere near the value he bought it for, and to make back what he has put n, 130mil loan…he needs to sell nufc as a stable, prem league club, with good players and being run properly.
If he takes us down he will get no where near the 240+ million be bought us for.
169 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Newcastle United and Sunderland target Moussa Sissoko will today decide whether or not to accept an offer from Marseille.
Read more: http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130117/newcastle-and-sunderland-set-miss-out-toulouse-star-189486?#ixzz2IF4m1rJN
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170 JARRAMAG // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Ibiza
I think Ashley will spend as well but i just hope he listens to Pardue and not Llambias or we could really be in trouble
171 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:15 PM
catchy @ 156
sadly it is as simple as that. There’s a bad vibe / smell
about pardew.
It would be hard to imagine a more collective bunch of sleazy and arrogant creeps than mssrs ashley, llambias and pardew, backed up by their equally sleazy sponsor wonga.
SBR now pardew
Virgin now Wonga
Mort now Llambias
172 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:15 PM
catchy
not sure if you saw it posted earlier….somebody mention that pardew has the 3rd worst win % out of all our managers since 1992.
I didn’t realise it was that bad….I am still backing him for now but not sure why really…
I am seeing limited signs of improvement but not enough…maybe it’s I fear who would be brought in to replace him.
173 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:15 PM
ibiza
im all for that to,, but if he dont get them in,, which it does not look like he will,,
get a coach in that can work with what we have
174 Munster Mag // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Catchy, I think defeat to Reading would move us about 30% closer to relegation becasue it will say so much about our tem / sqaud / manager / tactics if we lose and play badly. I think we’ll get a win though, but we have to get Marv and Cabaye closer to Cisse. I have a strong feeling he’ll go 4-4-2 with Shola beside Cisse, as we should have more possession and he will want the ball to stick around the forwards. That foirmation can still work, but only if the wingers have energy and get the ball across, and it will also need Shola to get up off his arse and get hold of the ball. 2-1 , Shola late winner ( is he fit ??!!!!??? )
175 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Catchy,
It’s a deeper issue than just AP for me. The whole of the coaching set up needs to be looked at. It isn’t just AP that fails to get the best out of these players, I’m sure he speaks with the other coaching staff and they discuss tactics and approach so all have to take responsibility.
Then there is the lack of progress of some of our kids. The staff in key positions is wrong throughout the club and has been for years.
I agree Pards is looking less and less like the man to take us forward, but who would come in to work for DL and MA, and would DL and MA allow them to rebuild the entire footballing side of the club?
176 JackButler // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2013/01/17/alan-pardew-loic-remy-was-made-a-fantastic-offer-72703-32623446/?
177 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM
well that just makes me fear for the worst
178 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Rotonda
You claim…and stats back you up….that Pardew is a long ball merchant and is very defensive. I agree with you on that.
Can you explain, because I can’t, why we keep signing players which are not built for that style yet continue to play it? This has totally lost me. At least last year we mixed up long ball with some passing stuff, this year we have totally switched to long ball…other than the last few games (as people will point this out).
179 Carl92 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM
Ideally I would like to see Gamiero or Wilfreid Bony come in as a ST. Then I think Sulejmani or Gouffran would be perfect for a cheap extra creative/flair winger type player. Then also Mbiwa CB. However if Colo leaves I would like to see someone come in with Premier league experience as well. Thoughts?
180 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM
that article posted has pardew saying we need 1 or 2
what happened to the 3-4 that were getting ‘close’ last week?
181 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Catchy….Reserving judgement on incoming players until Feb 1st. Not that I don’t think they’re needed now, but that is the window and I wont write us off until that is closed. I remain hopeful that players will arrive.
Before I start, just want to point out I am not saying I agree that Pardew is a bad manager and needs replacing. For me he is a good enough manager, but not great / spectacular. For where we are and our board, I think he’s around the best that we can hope for whilst we build (assuming that is what is being done, even if it’s being carried out badly).
A coach to work with Pardew in theory is great and would be a good way to plug holes in the set-up. Not sure how Pardew would feel about it, but to be honest, they’re supposed to be interested in the greater good of the team.
Whilst Pardew is somewhat limited, I’d be more than happy with last years performances (overall) again. I have no reason to think that he can’t get back to that with returning (fit) players and new incomings, but as always nothing is certain.
Jarra…We shall wait and hope then
182 JARRAMAG // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Well Pardue has spoken
1 or 2 players in wont keep us up im afraid and if we only get one in i fear we will go down
The 3 wise men have lost the plot
183 JackButler // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Transfer
Pardew has players bought for him, I don’t think he has much say on who comes in or who goes out.
Carr identifies good ball players, players who thrive with the ball into feet, Pardew thrives on head tennis. His defensive stance is the further we kick the ball away from our goal the less likely we are to concede. Simples
184 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Rotonda heights
what scare me , is aparently his best skill was man management
WOW
TS
i have a huge fear of who he would bring in,, his record on managers is not great,
id like martinez, he has something, we have good players, but i dont think dave whelan likes MA so would not let him speak to him
blank could do a great job
as could Ole gunner
185 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
you must not say plot its a 5 year plan
186 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
boater at 78.
I had to stop after the first line !!!
You say ” I think we only need a new centre back if Colo goes. Willo is nowhere near as bad as people make out”
Hello…..!!!!
187 parkleton // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM
Why is it that it takes so long for Pardew to come out and tell the fans anything? Gone are the days of keeping the fans in the loop, heaven forbid that its us poor fools footing the bills at the end of the day.
And as for his latest BS of “we need atleast 1 or 2 more” what happended to the 4-5 deals that were supposed to be ‘heating up’?
Looks like groudhog day… again.
188 Rake // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM
@ Catchy 166
I agree, I do also believe that our defense has been so bad we haven’t been able to attack teams because on the counter we would literally be ripped to shreds. Santon after an attack usually isn’t anywhere near getting back to defend so you have Simmo Willo and Collo trying to cover the counter attacks….
Reinforced defence is absolute must as we all know it will give your attacking players the ability to do their job and attack and get up the fucking pitch.
189 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Munster Mag
If we get beat against Reading I can’t see us getting out of the mess. The club needs players with guts/fighters not shirt kissers – and – could be wrong – I don’t see any fighters in the team at the moment.
That’s why we need Strephen taylor back ASAP or a Kevin Nolan type player.
People talk about Pardews tactics etc., – can anyone tell me what Carver and Stone (canny Geordies) bring to the table – cos they being Geordies should be instilling the fighting spirit into our team
190 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM
We are not a long ball team and the people who say we are don’t know sh1t,when you have your best creative midfielders missing and your not creating chances through the midfield sometimes you have to knock the ball long and miss them out and play more direct to try and create a few chances,we have been playing decent football at times the last few weeks because Cabaye has returned to the 1st team.
191 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM
As always, not reading too much in to the amount of players Pardew says we need or are after. The man has no control over final dealings and will fear saying the wrong thing. He will constantly try to lower expectations on transfers whilst trying not to send everyone in to a frenzy.
The Colo comment was of more interest to me. If he feels the Colo issues can be dealt with on the field, wouldn’t that indicate it’s a footballing issue and not a personal one (i.e. problem with his wife)? Not one to jump to a negative conclusion, but reading between the lines it would seem that the issue could in fact be with Colo and either Pardews and his style or the board and their ambition.
Obviously nothing decisive, but that’s how it’s looking.
192 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Pardew got us 5th so he must be great manager.
How about Howard Wilkinson or George Burley
193 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM
jackbutler
Ed did an article months ago on Carr where Carr said he gets 7/8 targets for each position..gives the list to pards who decides which order to put them in then llambias goes after the top one, if unavailable goes for 2nd, etc.
So I think Pardew has a say…thats what confuses me.
But going by what you say…that means either carr is doing his job wrong..so should be getting long ball players…or pardew is doing his job wrong…playing long ball with technical players.
Yet both were just awarded 8 year contracts…so surely they must be doing what is expected of them.
The whole club is poorly managed top to bottom in my eyes.
I like pardew, thought he was great last year, had some veyr good performances but we had a toughness about us I thought we wouldn’t have. Not sure what is happening now.
194 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Ibiza…if I were where you are I would slap you
lol
195 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:33 PM
http://www.eplindex.com/24736/defensive-error-prone-players-premier-league-stats-comparison.html
196 robin // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:33 PM
He joined because he couldn’t stand seeing his career go down the pan under a 3rd rater like Pardew. Reading will be his last game if they lose!
197 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:33 PM
What I hate is the constant change of statement. We are looking to bring in 3 or 4, now we are trying to get 1 or 2.
If we had some straight answers and truthful statements I think that would do a lot to calm nerves
198 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:33 PM
actually…he says “the best way of dealing with it is to be on the pitch” which could just mean it’s better for him to be playing and keep him focused on football rather than these “issues”.
Forget it. Not going to try and second guess this, it’s too exhausting.
199 Wandering Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Meeting with Collos representatives on Friday at Toon. They are pretty confident that he will return.They are also buying a centre forward from Brazilian club Corintians Juan Martinez who is an Argentinian International
200 Spreadthetoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM
AP Quote
“We need one or two players to strengthen our position.” in the Chronicle – FFS what happened to 3-4 players – if we sign only 1 or 2 players this window I’ll be f’ing furious. FURIOUS!
201 5Danny94 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM
Personally, I think we’d have signed more players if we didn’t have that disgusting third kit. Why do we always insist on wearing that lime green abomination? It’s disgusting.
202 Munster Mag // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM
I agree Charlie. I am an ardent Musnter rugby fan ( its a people’s game here, not just for the middle classes ) and effort and pride is stitched in the jersey. Whoever wears the red bursts a gut, largely because they are local. Thats why we beat the All Blacks years ago. John Carver has got to rally the troops, but how do you rally a tool like Obertan? Incidentally, does anyone now disagree with my initial opinion that he’s just not a good player?
203 AusMagpie // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Not even worried about relegation. I think we’ll win our next two games comfortably which will be huge. Chelsea will be a test, obviously, but I think we can give ‘em a run at home. Ben Arfa back in a month. We’ll be fine.
204 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Jesper….You say that now, but one look at my face and all that would just disappear
Robin…If that were true he never would have accepted the terms with us to start with. He was a made a better offer at QPR, simple as that.
205 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM
ibiza
and that is your right,,
i carnt tell what to like in football,,
all i know is, it was not football we watched last year IMO,
he shut up shop innto many games,
and some of the games he just couldnt do it, and we got hammered, he stud there with a gormless face , thinking what has just happend
then said, im proud of my boys, you know not many teams will get anyhting here
high lines against fast strikers,
206 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:37 PM
MrMojoRisin76
1. We are a long ball team. Up to the wigan game…(we had cabaye and ben arfa available for most of that time, our technical players) we played 18% long balls…thats more than any other team. So we did play long ball, stats back it up and that was with our technical players.
2. I could understand in recent weeks if we played long ball as we have been missing cabs (just came back vs norwich), ben arfa…so long ball would be a bit more understandable. However these are the games where we seem to pass the ball.
But we have only played good, attacking football against man utd and arsenal and lost when we should have played that way against all the lesser teams.
So next time before you come on here swearing and insulting people do a bit of research first.
207 Bambams // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:38 PM
@Transfer Sage
Just noticed the chronicle quotes you have posted……. One or Two !!! My GOD we need at least three players CB (two CB’s if Colo goes), Striker and Left wing (not to mention the cover for a CB and LB).
Pardew has been told two players max and he is just preparing all of us!
CLUELESS LEADERSHIP…….
208 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM
regarding 204 if thats the case imo ashley gives not a toss
209 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM
wandering
Just the man I wanted…left a comment for you earlier but you weren’t on.
I remember you saying that colo to san lorenzo rumours were talked about over a month ago back in argentina. I think thats right?
Did any of those rumours mention ‘personal problems’ or not? Just wondering is this is being fabricated as a way to get out or genuine problem.
Is that issue even discussed in argentina or is it all seen as football reasons.
210 JackButler // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM
Transfer
If Pardew does have a say on who comes in then the man is a fool. We have more than enough technical players to keep the ball on the ground and pass it. Yet if we look at the 1st 12 games of this season when we had the likes of Cabaye, Ba, Cisse Benny and Anita all playing we were top of the table for long balls played.
I think Carr has done a brilliant job in identifying the type of players that we need/want to see at SJP, but Pardew has one style of play which negates the quality of our signings.
This is the man who persisted with 4-4-2 when every man and his dog could see that it wasn’t working costing us countless points in the process, the same man that changed a winning formation to accommodate Ba through the middle of the park and the same man that has played Cisse out wide.
I’ve backed Pardew but I’ve become sick and tired of him shooting himself in the foot during press conferences and the fact that I still don’t think he nows what our best formation is or who to get the best of the squad that he has available
211 Dannyo // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM
If you’re going to listen to any of the journos on twitter with regards to NUFC, listen to Mark Douglas.
He’s the one who’s got his foot on the inside more than anyone else.
212 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:42 PM
Transfer Sage
lmao
you confuse me boy,, you say you will trust him for now, but ovr the last few weeks you say all things iv been saying for a while as to why we ar in trouble,,
im glad you see it,, but !!!
213 Munster Mag // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Transfer/ Catchy, re signings, its hard to judge. I think Pardew has a big say, but I feel value and discount is a massive factor for us, and this doesnt always work. I cant understand why we sign decent players like Anita and dont play more on the deck. I think pressure is a factor, but Pardew doesnt look like a coach who likes this style, and stats back up that assertion, although the pressure on players ( lump it forward ) may have much to do with it. Why does he keep talking up Carroll when clearly he is most suited to direct play? Catchy I’m not sure why you keep bigging up Ole , although i know little about him. Also, the Wigan bloke is tactically naive and only pulls clear of relegation every year . He may not spend much but we can do better. If Swansea can get a Laudrup, can we bot fine someone of that ilk, and get a knowledgeable guy who knows the prem league in beside him? Still lets, hope Pardew gets us through this and we’ll see where we go from there. Incidentally, hands up the guys who said the 8 yr contract was a good idea and showed our new stable club in good light etc ? Dont be shy now boys….
214 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Munster Mag
Obertan – theres something there, I don’t know if he needs a kick up the arse or a arm around his shoulder.
Would rather have him than Sammy at the moment who is raw and needs to be sent out on loan for a season along with a few others.
But problem is squad isn’t big enough to send them out on loan.
215 ajcrawfs // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:47 PM
the more i think of our current plight, the more i think how the hell have we managed to fuck it up from last year?! Talk about royally screwing it up!
216 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:47 PM
bambams
I find it odd that he can say 3-4 are close to done or being sorted then the week after he hopes for 1-2.
How can things chance so dramatically.
Even if remy was one of those 3-4 players, once he loses out on him we must move on. Its not liek debuchy where he just stayed at lille so we could go back later, he has moved to qpr so is out of our reach for good now, so we must get another target.
Jackbutler
I was the same…it just seems like he is totally overwhelmed in the job at the moment at simple cannot see the wood for the trees, he doesn’t seem to even identify the problem never mind address it.
I don’t like sacking a manager unless it’s a last resort, I don’t think he has to go yet but I understand why some want him out, I just hope he gets us playing well proves us wrong.
I simply find it staggering people think injuries are the only reason for this and without them we would be right up the league. No doubt they have made it hard for us but really a good manager finds ways to win or at least compete….Pardew hasn’t managed this for ages.
Mind you the players have a lot to answer for too.
217 Daley_Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:47 PM
exactly! on twitter, the guys to follow are Lee Ryder, Mark Douglas and George Caulkin. they are all in contact with club and have a decent idea of what’s going on. Also, 2 to survive, 3 or 4 to climb the league and strengthen squad.
218 JackButler // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM
LostBoy NUFC 180 ?@LostBoyNUFC180
Apparently Darren Bent is in Newcastle, I hope he’s just shopping.
219 Daley_Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Mark Douglas ?@MsiDouglas
Clarification on the ‘we need 2′ point: two to avoid relegation. Am sure the squad will be strengthened beyond the 2 senior recruits but…
…they’ll be more likely to be Haidara type young players. My info is a chance of more than 2 senior recruits… One would be a start tho!
220 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM
You can hide behind stats all you want,when Cabaye and Benny are in the team regularly what i see is the defenders giving the ball to them to create chances for the forwards,stats don’t mean squat,do stats tell you what happens when a team has been playing passing football all game only to go 1 nil behind and then have to resort to hoofing the ball long for the last ten minutes to try and get something out of the game?,we have been playing long ball footy because there has been no creativity in midfield,forgot to mention Marveux coming into the team has helped us to start and get the ball down a bit more.
221 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM
JackButler
please add
no matter which formation,, we never look like we have had any practice playing it,, it seems he practices in real games, he makes so many changes, players change position many time in games
he has no clue
222 Sazzer // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM
I hope he means 1-2 first teamers, and still 1-2 more back up. And that he is confident Colo stays.
223 jettson1971 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM
the chronicle quotes are worrying, but Lee Ryder has no balls to ask the searching questions, which any reporter should be doing, he should be doing his job by asking ‘last week u said 34, now its 1 or 2, Why the changem what has happened etc’ he hasnt the balls to do it and neither do the chronicle, AP by this quote has proved to be a puppet!! Any manager with credibility would have walked away!!
I keep saying business is over, and this quote just adds more weight, I do not even think we will get the 1 or 2 as he says, blokes a dick, just like DL and MA
224 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:50 PM
hopes for 3/4 gets none is the greatest possibility
225 chuck // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Sounds like sour grapes to me Ed.
Grow up !
QPR are entitled to spend as much as their hearts desire, it’s entirely within the present rules.
Sure Arry will earn himself a chunk of money as a bonus for keeping the club in the PL
But think what we may lose if relegated.
Who do we blame, obviously Ashley, who refused to invest during the summer in an attempt to save a few bucks, now he will no doubt have to pay through the nose, in order to survive and be in the PL for it’s biggest
payday yet.
Ironic aint it.
226 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:52 PM
catchy
I just think there have been a few times where pardew has put results and performances together, said the right things, changed things…etc which have been very good.
I think that although I have no idea if or when he will turn things around there is still a hope he can turn this around. As long as he goes back the winning formula then he has hope.
227 Spreadthetoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:52 PM
We are largely in this mess because the board did not do enough in the summer window. AP is also to blame for that for not being too forth right with the board then.
In my opinion if exactly the same happens this window then AP must go, as his ambition will only reflect the boards. The same mistakes cannot happen again……….so talk of 1-2 players is complete BS when clearly we need as a minimum 3-4.
I don’t care if January is a tougher window, I don’t care that its a competitive market etc. I am fed up with AP the board and their useless excuses! Enough is enough….if you cannot persuade the board Alan that we desperately need 4 players and cannot get them, then just give up and go and manage some other team……one that matches your ambition, cos’ NUFC is a premiership team and we want to stay there!
228 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:53 PM
I’m not sure where the problem comes from. Against Man U we played some great football… not hoofball but football, and we could have (and should have) taken at least a point. Why haven’t we at least tried to play more games like that?
Is it because we can only rise to the challenge when it’s a big team?
229 noladonna // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:53 PM
still no comment from pardew has he gone into hiding usually you cant keep this guy out of the press spouting his shit all over the place since hes been at newcastle hes never gone a whole week without saying something wheres percy gone anyone????
230 jettson1971 // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Charlie / Daley
Lee Ryder hasnt a clue, he gets told wat do say, he DOES Not ask the rite questions, another yes man for the club.
As for Sammi, lol well he will never make a premiership footballer, Div 1 standard at best, he hasnt a clue about team play and imho he thinks he has already made it, no hunger, desire or fight shown by him in ANY of the games he has played, loan him out for a season or two as he is clueless at present
231 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:53 PM
we all know there are decent young expirienced defenders (maybe not pl std) if he likes a gamble buy a couple pronto myself that irish kid who scored agin villa would do for me
232 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:56 PM
Munster Mag
Ole is going to be a top top manager,,
for me he would be my no choice, and i do like laudrup,
Ole has taken a team that had not won the league in 101 years and won 2 years in a row, in a league with no big name players,
in a league that is quite open
i think watching molde play, they are hard working, but have a system
as a player , he has been a winner most of his life with man u,
i think he has learned a great deal from SAF,,
233 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:56 PM
MrMojoRisin76
How can you say we don’t play long ball when stats say we do.
Stats do tell you everything provided you have all the stats. When were the long balls played, who played them, were we behind, ahead, level…etc etc
18% is the most in the league…which is 1 out of 5 passes are long….so you will still see 4 our of 5 passes short.
The problem is we do hoof it long all to often, it has been picked up by fans, pundits and players.
Demba ba said it himself.
234 catchy in norway // Jan 17, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Transfer Sage
i think the players need a big look in the mirrow,, but we dont know what has gone on behind closed doors,, the players could have been saying we need to change it boss, and it took a falling out with colo to get that change
235 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM
jettson1971
partly agree
Sammy – i think he has a chance to make it but needs a season in the championship under the guidance of someone who can get him to play in a team and learn to cross and pass at the correct time.
And plenty of Red Meat and Guiness/Mac-e-Tann to bulk him up
236 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM
damn my
Google has denied reports that its Google Maps car killed a donkey in Botswana 13:22 17-Jan-13
237 rainrix // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM
the1willy…. While we did play good attacking football against arsenal and manu we were dreadful at defending. I pards has realised that we are far too weak defensively to go marauding forward every 2 seconds.
If you noticed against everton and norwich we were better defensively (not saying much) i think pards has tried to calm things down to try and get points. I could understand it at everton as they are brilliant attackers but against teams like norwich we should go fully on the offensive.
God knows what we’ll see at the weekend, but at home against the 2nd bottom team you’d hope we’d attack.
238 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM
pardew had bent at charlton when they got relegated.
Bent is just a poor man’s cisse with a bad attitude, move on.
239 roblee7 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM
Just seen on SSN CSKA Moscow re-signed Vagner Love, would not of been a good shout? Always impresses me every time I see him play! quick feet, skilfull, fast, cool hair…..
240 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM
sorry lads im off the suspense is killing me
241 StuW // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:02 PM
Back to the Coloccini shite….Surely what San Lorenzo are doing is tapping up? They have practically forced Newcastle’s hand. Release him so we can sign him? Tapping up of the highest order
242 JackButler // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM
MrMojoRisin76
the first instinct of Simpson, Williamson, Saylor and on times Santon is to launch the ball up field. I’m not hiding behind the stats, they are what they are. Against Man U and Arsenal we did play some great football going forward, but thats too little too late.
Add to the long ball we do play Jonas and Obertan run themselves down alleys with no idea with what to do with the ball, no final pass or cross of any quality. Tiote constantly give the ball away and Krul’s distribution is very, very poor all this means that the ball keeps coming back at us
243 manxpie // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM
Transfer them stats don’t take anything else in to account tho do they?
Cabeye was well off form all season apart from a couple of games before his injury same for tiote and a very unsettled team all season
That all adds up too a very incoherent team Imo and I find it laughablethat people think its actually pardews tactics and game plan
I’ve seen pardew bashing krul in games for hoofing it,
I think confidence has had a lot to do with it aswell
244 ajcrawfs // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM
just seen a rumour regarding swapping simpson for hangeland. That would be worth while!
245 roblee7 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM
someone posted earlier about seeing Darren Bent in Newcastle….he still comes up here a lot, presumably still has friends up here from his mackem days. I work in Newcastle n see him quite often goin to that mega expensive clothes shop ‘End Clothing’ on High Bridge street, pullin up in his typical ‘footballer’ white land rover with ridiculous alloys so wouldn’t read too much into him coming to us if you spot him in toon…wouldn’t want him, total you know what!
246 always look on the bright side of life // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM
i know this may seems ridiculous but right now we need proven experience even just to get us through to the end of the season.
I am all up for new up and coming potential but we first need a foundation to get us through safely to the end of the season.
I dont claim to think some of the potential people I mention are ideal but at least theyre proven and will sure up our issues at the moment.
I think Samba or Gallas would be good short term solutions. I even wouldnt mind Bassong from Norwich in the summer even.
Up from we need someone who knows how to score and theyre hard to find at the best of times although I do think Darren Bent would even be available on loan, Kenwyne Jones from Stoke would be cheap, he doesnt score a lot but I think his presence with Cisse off him would useful.
Apart from that, the championship has some really promising talent which I would love to fill the squad with but obviously as theyre british they tend to have a higher value that their continental counterparts of a similar age and ability.
I really feel Colo has us over a barrel so to speak but I definatly wouldnt let him go for nothing, try and get him out on compassionate leave or keep him till the end of the season even so there is plenty of time for a replacement to be found.
I dont think I have ever known the squad to be so paper thin and although I dont want to clog it up with rubbish, we do need more numbers and not just all kids with no experience.
Just my opinions anyway, its my first ever post so dont be too harsh.
247 jonwright079 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM
Ha ha, he may end up being the best and highest paid striker in the championship, bet he’s like a rat off a sinking ship when they do sink. Beard must be drunk, the ground looks like a pre-fab shed with the allotment on the inside!!!
248 rainrix // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM
StuW… I thought that as well, surely we can report them to fifa for it? Hell lets sue them while we’re at it, might actually add some transfer funds for the summer
249 alf // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM
Nufc need to cut Pardew adrift the guy has tried and failed to make the club a serious Premier league force all that he has accomplished is turning the club into a larger Charlton Athletic. We have become a national joke under this man losing 3 FA cup games to mediocre teams, no away wins in 17 games, no goals from corners its just shocking football to watch. And the worst thing is these clowns that still defend him for failing!
250 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:08 PM
As far as the stats are concerned what are we classing as a long ball?,i love to see right backs pinging the ball cross pitch to the LB or LW is that a long ball?,and if your full back does that 10 times a game that would show up as 10 long balls?,i didn’t hear Demba Ba complaining last season about long ball footy but last season we were relatively lucky with injuries and when we did the squad players came in and done a decent job,i’m not saying we haven’t been playing long ball footy because we have but when we have our creative players missing i can understand why.Can’t wait til we can get Cabaye,Marveux and Benny back in the team,i bet we don’t see that many long balls then.
251 JackButler // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM
What worries me is even if Pardew leaves, who would Ashley bring in???
I mean just look at his appointments to date
252 rainrix // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM
Alf…. Pardew is the greatest manager nufc has ever seen. If you believe otherwise you are a incredibly deluded individual. As such all of your arguments are invalid
253 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM
rainrix, I know exactly what you mean. It just seems like AP can’t see what we all see. Against the ‘lesser’ teams who are less likely to be able to punish us, we should play attacking football like we did against Man U/Arsenal, and try to be more defensive (away from home at least) against teams with a stonger attacking threat. He seems to have got his tactics Ar*e over t*t this season if you ask me.
254 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM
sage @ 176
I wish i could explain but sadly no, total contradiction
255 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:11 PM
Rainrix….A lot of people have said they find it odd to be defensive against lesser opposition and then attack the bigger teams. On the face of it, yes it’s odd. However, in the Man U and Arsenal games I think it was probably a case of “Hell, we’ll likely lose, just give it a go as we’re not really expecting any points”.
Given that certain areas of our team are prone to mistakes even when the team are playing well, being defensive and trying to get a goal or two to take the three points off lower teams is a start to gain some confidence again, which is a big part in turning this season around. Not sure it’s the right call, but for me, that’s what I make of it. Small steps to try and turn things around.
256 rainrix // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM
the1willy… Yup against norwich we should have attacked no question. Although like other times this season we seem to find no way through. Its strange the only times we’ve scored more than 3 goals this season are arsenal and manu (not counting wigan).
i think we generally play better this season when we hit on the break. When we pen a team into their own area we never seem to look like we can get through. If you notice most of our goals against arsenal and manu were counters.
Sadly with the way the season gone i see us setting up as you described attack at home and defend away
257 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM
Ibizatoon @248
Sounds like a pretty reasonable argument which I fully agree with and certainly fits in with our current situation.
The only thing I would discuss is that we often played like that early in the season (defensively), before the confidence had started ebbing away.
258 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:20 PM
JB
Ashley has been very successful in retail and is king.
The difference with football is it’s a different animal with emotions attached.
It’s a market that Ash has little or next to no knowledge of.
So the first thing you would do is to get an eminent football person to counsel and advise you, not a very dodgy and sleazy casino manager and a 3rd rate manager who would not get employed by anyone else in the top half of the premiership.
I still believe that any of solksjaer, di matteo, blanc, martinez, Poyet, Jol, even Rijkaerd could come here and enjoy the quality of players we have , not straitjacket them in negative hoof ball or concentrate on Benny tracking back!!.
259 rainrix // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM
Ibiza… Yeah baby steps. As much as i’d like to see better football i’d take bad displays and survival over good displays and relegation.
I think the manu and arsenal game showed we can be an attacking force, but at the same time our defence can be abysmal. We haven’t found the right balance all season really. If we do the results will improve.
It shows we have potential when we play without fear, although fear is one thing we have in abundance atm
260 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Trying to get me head round this and work out why the wheels have come off so drastically.
I think the two pivatol matches were West ham and Swansea at home (not wanting to state the obvious there), loosing two home matches in a row against those sides knocked the confidence out of the boys and made AP start panicking and doubting his own tactics.
261 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Think this 1-8-1 formation is starting to sound quite realistic:
Krul
Saylor
Arfa Bigi Tiote Sissoko Anita Marveaux Cabaye Gut
Cisse
262 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM
*pivotal
263 VTnufc // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM
tbh, even if we do bring 1 or 2 more players in, i don’t think they’ll drastically change the status quo of our style of football. Pardew has to realize the nature of the players in this squad is to pass, move, and ATTACK. think about marveaux, obertan, anita, cab, hba, tiote, etc… No more bypassing the midfield. we have the potential to rip teams apart
264 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Stefan Coerts ?@StefanCoerts
#AZ have turned down yet another #PSV offer for Adam #Maher (19). Asking price is €9m, PSV offering €6m. January move seems impossible.
265 Peter // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Sick of transfer market and our useless incapability of getting players we need. So I’m hoping for a big jolly win with no hoofball and a cisse sensation game and end it all with a massive pardew fist pump, missing them a lot from him
but I’m dreaming it will be a scrappy affair with Guthrie bound to score.
The joys of a Newcastle fan eh
266 robin // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:28 PM
I agree alf that Pardew is a limited manager that has over achieved at NUFC and has now been found out as a one trick pony by us the fans and certain players the fact that Remy rejected the club because he considers Redknapp a far superior coach underlines that fact. So until the tactiturn Ashley relieves the club of both Pardew and the equally in-effective Lambias the club continue to decline.
267 Transfer Sage // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:29 PM
mr mojo and manxpie
I’m not saying there isn’t a use for the long ball, far from it….if used correctly it’s just as effective as a well played move.
I think the problem is the long balls we play are not often a long pass but a punt up the field.
I know the stats don’t take into account form, injuries, etc etc but they give an indication of what is happening.
While we can’t just take the stats out of context we can’t disregard them totally.
And I don’t understand pardew wanting long ball, makes no sense with the squad he has…just if he doesn’t want it why aren’t players like krul, willo, simmo, etc etc forced to stay behind to work on the passing instead of just accept it will happen.
I can’t find the interniew but last year pards said he wouldn’t make simmo do extra practicing for crossing/passing.
268 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM
the1willy (Really want to shorten your name, should I go with the1 or willy?
)….There is no way for me to have this conversation without sounding like I’m blindly defending Pardew, so instead I will just pose an idea rather than opinion…
I think the season started slowly. This happens at a lot of clubs. A mixture of arrogance from our finish last season and some key players not being fit from summer commitments etc. Nothing major really and I guess all expected we’d quickly pick up momentum….I certainly did.
We also started last season defensively. It could be argued that when we’re not firing yet, Pardew will build confidence slowly by playing defensive, picking up points and then pushing on. Is it fair to say he thought he could do the same again this year? I think so.
We also had other players to step in when needed last season. Players like Guthrie and Best both helped out at the beginning, whereas this season when a key player is out it gives us bigger issues.
I feel there have been many problems this year and they’ve all just compounded and then escalated to where we are now. I don’t think confidence levels have been anywhere near last seasons at any point this season since they kicked that first ball against Spurs and that was a huge part of our game last season.
As for now, they need to get some confidence back. If that’s getting a goalless draw away at Norwich then fine, it’s a first step. We do need to take each game as it comes for now and insisting on a better style of player has been and past, confidence and points are what is needed imo.
Once we’re safe then start thinking about other aspects. To think we can just change formation or a player or twos position and all will be wonderful is madness from where I’m sitting.
269 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Is it true that Pardump was at Fulham Vs blackpool game
270 mendes // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Remy is gone move on. I have had a few thoughts about targets that would help us out in our current situation. Please note this is my opinion; Tom Ince (RW/LW), Flourent Malouda/Charlie N’Zogbia (loan; LW), Jordan Rhodes/Charlie Austin (ST) and Sakho (Loan; CB). Sakho and Malouda have something to prove to get a new club. If they play well top european teams will sign them. Malouda only has 6 months on his contract plus he knows where the goal is. Just a thought
271 daztoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:33 PM
@Rotonda
Totally agree and when he bought the club he installed the perfect person to teach him in Keegan who is also a big attraction in bringing in players,man management and great football to watch
272 Thump // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Ed, stop posting about Remy. I think most of the fans are pig sick of hearing about him. It’s just bitterness at this stage and I’m sure we have a back up plan. Let’s just move on and forget about him.
273 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Just want to clarify that what I refer to as defensive football doesn’t mean constant hoofball.
274 daztoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:40 PM
@Ibiza
It’s not so much hoofball it’s retaining the ball we struggle with and lack of movement
275 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM
@Ibizatoon, yeah Willy is fine.
I agree, what’s done is done and we really just need to get the season back on track. I think the Norwich result was the first small step. Yes, it was a boring game lacking in any real quality, but I think the result was a relief to both sides.
If we have acquired some confidence with that nil nil, and we get a wee boost like Taylor coming back, Debuchy showing a bit of quality and link up play with the midfield, and these help us get three points against Reading, it may well signal a turning point in the season.
I don’t expect (or think we really need) a mind blowing performance, but to get the points is essential on several levels
276 elgeordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM
darren bent to nufc gosling and simpson the other way apparently
277 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:47 PM
Darren Bent scoring record
persons saying Darren Bent is crap
Not a bad scoring record:
To date Darren Bent has scored 81 Premier League goals in 186 appearances at a rate of 1 every other games (178 minutes).
Could do with him – anyone at the minuted – who scores a goal every other game
278 GAZ09 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:48 PM
@269
You got that from the rumor page on skysports, wouldn’t believe too much from that page.
279 the1willy // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:48 PM
@elgeordie – where is that from?
280 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM
I think he has had to set the team out to play long balls because the main problem with our play the last few months is that we haven’t been getting many players in the box when were going forward,sick of seeing one of our players getting a cross in and there’s 1 man in the box to aim for,that’s why It’s so important for us to have Cabs and Benny in the team because their natural instinct is to go forward,when you have Bigi and Perch playing in midfield they are not naturally offensive minded players so they don’t go forward as much so with the creativity unavailable and the midfielders are not getting into the box the only other option is to miss it out and go long hoping Shola can get a few knock downs.
281 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM
daz…Indeed. What do you think the reasons are?
Willy….It’s all they can do really that’s not too far fetched. Everyone needs a positive lift to get back on track. I hope it’s not misguided, time will tell.
elgeordie….According to? .
282 Munster Mag // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:50 PM
Whoever thinks 3-4 signings, that really doesnt gel with what we have seen under Ashley. If we can get a striker and centre half I’d be very pleased. But Pardews injuries excuses makes him sound like Souness, so i’m glad he’s quiet at present and hoepfully busy on the training pitch.
283 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:50 PM
Pardew praises loyal and faithful fans …
Pardew admits that the last few results have given the Toon Army good reason to be frustrated.
last few … try last 25 plus pre-season.
And although he admits it may not always be pretty,
not always … we’ve been awful all season.
He’s taken us as far as he can go … I have no faith in the man’s ability to coach at this level.
His comments are insulting.
284 Ian Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Transfer– You ask- Why aren’t Simpson and Williamson forced to stay behind after training to practice passing and control.
Maybe for the same reason that Pardew recognises that you can’t get a crab to walk in a straight line.
285 check the toastie // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM
I really beginning to hate Pardew, never booed at the stadium, but if we are booting it long and shite at the weekend i will be giving Pardope pelters.
Will obviously get behind the lads initailly though.
Actually fancy us to win, dont know why when our team is ed by a total pratt.
If we dont invest some decent cash and show some proper ambition in this window all ur ‘purples’ will desert the sinking ship.
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286 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM
manxpie
if pardew really had a problem with krul, simmo and Willo hoofing it don’t you think he would invest a little bit of time coaching them to short pass, how hard can it be they’re premiership footballers on 1000′s a week.
We have the record for the most long balls played in the premiership and that’s while cabs and Benny were playing. That’s worse than stoke!
I’m sorry but given the same personnel could you see any of Martinez, Laudrup, Rodgers etc play that way.
Enough of the excuses, it’s a defensive mindset that Pardew even admits to practicing 4 out of 5 days a week.
287 Wandering Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:57 PM
@Transfer Sage
Hi Transfer sorry just having a cooling Tequila on beach.There was no mention at all about illness etc .This is a fabricated lie.The only truth is that |I can gather is that Collo has been pencilled in with a good wage backed up by the president,who has a massive backing from media groups.He owns games shows etc.I think I mentioned previously he is the Argentinian Simon Cowell in terms of wealth.
288 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:58 PM
In regards to the Colo situation..
I’d say Coloccini just wants to go home, he’s had enough. Has no belief or confidence left in the board. God knows what rubbish was spouted to him to sign that deal recently.
There was a big drop in confidence & Morale which was witnessed from the off this season. And this imo was down to not investing in the Summer. These lads finished above expectations and got one signing into the club to help with the Euro campaign. It’s quite pathetic.
You bust a gut all year, have an excellent season and your board then makes an absolute mental gamble and expects the same all over again. Pardew quickly came out and said 10th would be an expected finish when he realised there was no more players being added into the squad. He knew, and quickly talked up the youngsters, even though he had doubts. But, it’s his job to inspire confidence in them and he did what he had to do. After all, what other choice did he have?
What we are witnessing through out the squad is a lack of belief, comfidence and morale. There is no incentive or belief there for the players after the mess last summer. They deserved better. they deserved the reinforcements, the help. Ba, Colo, Ben Arfa recently.
They have 2 weeks to get these players in or I fear the worst. I believe this window now dosnt just shape our season with signings and quality in depth. . I think it’s going to shape what quality players we have left here after the summer. Our players are screaming for ambition from our board. I think last summer didn’t just upset the fans, I think it also affected the players in a big way also. And we are witnessing it now.
289 nightfa11 // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:58 PM
guys would you please stop saying we were great against Man utd.. noone of united players were running..they played like they were on holidays.. watch the match again..
290 daztoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:58 PM
@ibiza
I think pardew is to defensive,square pegs in round holes and sets out not to loose but lacks ideas when we go a goal down
291 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM
elgeordie
i’d take that to get rid of gosling and simpson, but how old is bent now and isn’t he on big wages?
Basically is he prepared to rotate with Cisse because they are the same player or will genius Pardew play him right wing!!!
292 Williamsonsuks // Jan 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM
http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=3044492
He talks about getting grounds men will make sure we have ground cleared of any snow coming our way. I’d rather the game was called off, hoping we’ve a couple of new players in, and Williamson dropped to tea boy.
293 Ian Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM
Check- what is your idea of initially? I guess when opposition fans sing ” You only sing when your winning ” that could be a good description of your level of support. -Lol
What a lousy excuse for a fan!
294 richyg01 // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM
SSN says Sunderland have made a bid for Graham.
Swansea fans are hoping that they look at Charlie Austin as his replacement rather than the proposed Kenwyne Jones.
295 pedro // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM
The Coloccini story has been in the press here for weeks but not sure if the sickness thing has been fabricated.
And Wandering – San Lorenzo aren’t signing Juan Manuel Martinez. He has signed for Boca somedays ago from Corinthians. He was actually someone I thought was maybe worth a shout. Not too expensive and when he was with Velez, they won they title and he was one of the best players which is why Corinthians came in.
296 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Daz….Defensive – Agreed. Square Pegs – Don’t entirely agree. Yes players have been played out of position, but we also lack players for certain positions. Didn’t really see anyone moaning with Ba on the left when we were winning, in fact, most wanted us to revert back to that this season.
As for when we go a goal down….words fail me.
Prodigy…That is more and more becoming my thoughts on the situation. I don’t think the players have suddenly turned on Pardew and his tactics as I can’t imagine they’re that different from last season, but I can believe they are less than thrilled with the board.
297 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM
toon prodigy
I think it’s a lot simpler than that. We didn’t lose anyone either.
Basically Pardew ditched a successful 433 to accommodate Ba centrally when he should have had Cisse on the bench or rotating with Ba and maybe Marveaux or Obi on the left of a front 3 with Benny right.
At no time did Pardew ever consider that, but rather he ploughed on in a 442 with the pair of them which was never ever going to work. 25+ games to work it out and I’m not sure he ever did as Cisse was last spotted on the right wing when Ba played.
The scary thing about Pardew is he does nothing pro-oactive and even less reactively
298 gaz 44 // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM
bent n cisse are nothing alike.. bents a poacher with a bit of speed cisse definately isn’t a poacher butis more of an instinctivefinisher
299 DokToon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:10 PM
ibiza @ 262…
well said… my new prayer is to hit the lottery, or a very rich cougar, make 400 mill or so, and buy NUFC… free drinks and jobs for a few of you here
300 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Dok….Sounds brilliant. If you manage it I’m sure you’ll be getting the free drinks from us….not so sure this is the best place to find staff mind
301 John Tudor // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM
just sack llambsarse
302 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM
SS saying 3/1 for Krul to join Milan. Phhh. I’m at even money not to look at SS anymore
303 daztoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM
@ibiza
Cisse right wing,don’t think Joanas knows what his position is anymore.Get Pieters in at left back and for cb cover move Santon to midfield can also be left back cover.In an ideal world anyway.To be honest was refreshing the way way we played at manure and arseholes but think the results scared Pardew back to being defensive.If that was a result of players having a go a negative tactics and then Pardew saying I told you so I don’t know.
304 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Ibiza 433 = quick ground passing and counter attacking
442 = hoofball unless you’re Manu and you’re just generally fitter than everyone else. Our fitness levels are a joke
305 Wandering Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM
apoligies Pedro your right about martinez.getting my facts wrong..Where are you?
306 jettson1971 // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM
Llambarse is the problem, wh else would hold such a key role within a business, WITHOUT ANY knowledge of the business?? beggers belief to be honest!! corrupt!!
307 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM
ibiza
have you heard of the ibiza cup, youth footie tournament in august I think
308 DokToon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM
at least some of us here know what’s wrong, and how to fix it… (puts ibiza in charge of concessions, lol)
309 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Daz…Cisse was wasted on the right wing, no doubt. I can only guess, but assume as he was misfiring in front of goal the idea was to keep him playing and hope for the best. Not like we have a long list of better players for the position.
Jonas is no longer a winger for me, but is good as a DM. Trouble is, is he one of our best DMs? I think his hard work is so valuable for the team, but ultimately I do see him being edged out in the not so distant future.
I don’t know Pardew, so no idea if he’d be that petty, but could be?!? I get the feeling, as i said before, it was more a question of nothing to lose in those games, plus they’re a nightmare to contain so best get some goals.
310 Rotonda heights // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:20 PM
gaz 44
nothing alike ?? hmmm……
311 pedro // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:20 PM
No worries wandering. I live in Buenos Aires always read the blog but dont post too much
312 Tsunki // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM
What about getting a pre-contract deal with that Remy lad at QPR? I reckon he’ll be an absolute bargain in the summer. Ok I will stop now.
Colo – seeing as it seems to be a matter inside the club more than a family one I agree that a good guess is the summer window was badly enough done to make him throw in the towel, and probably didn’t like the sound of plans for this window so he’s decided to call it a day and go home while he still has a couple of decent years left in him. Maybe that’s what ‘personal crisis’ meant – he was just sick of it all?
The cost of living in OV has hit me hard, getting itchy feet and may start walking to Catchyville in February.
313 ToonDownSouth // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM
Rotonda
Do you really think football is that simple…?
314 Wandering Geordie // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM
I live in San Isidro Lima Peru
315 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Rotonda…Were the formation definitions as I said I don’t class being defensive as having to play hoofball?
Never heard of the Ibiza cup. I know there are local youth teams and they must compete for something, but nothing more than that. You’re involved in youth football, right?
316 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM
What happens if we lose to Reading?
Booed off and possibly in the bottom 3 by Saturday evening.
Then what happens … when he’s lost the crowd?
317 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:27 PM
Really hope we don’t go for Bent not knocking his record but he does sweet fa outside of the box and his attitude atm isn’t great. I know a lad who works in a bar in Birmingham and he says that bent is in there everyday after training.
318 Tsunki // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Btw if we actually bought Darren Bent we would officially be a rubbish club, well MORE rubbish club imo.
319 Spreadthetoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:28 PM
I think it is fair to say that NUFC have one of the greatest needs of a successful transfer window to ensure our survival……but also equally important to show our existing players that we have ambition.
I think NUFC has probably had the worst window so far in comparison to peer clubs. AP seems clumsy with his press interviews and does little to calm fans or players nerves alike. I was wanting and expecting 4-5 players this window, but now AP is talking about 1 or 2…….its just not good enough! We’ve had 17 days on the window and nobody other than Debuchy which was tied up last window. Why are we so pedestrian in our transfer dealings………./????!!!!! I cannot believe that we are only able to work on one prospective striker at a time….even AP stated that Remy wasn’t a dead cert, so surely he has not been the only player we have had discussions with?????
320 p // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:29 PM
You know I agree we do need to strengthen but regardless I think we will stay up but only by virtue of other clubs being rubbish
321 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Just skimmed a few posts and see Darren Bents name what’s the story ?
322 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM
Balydon…He’s signed and starting against Reading
Only playing. Just a rumour about swapping him with Gosling and Simpson….
323 jettson1971 // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Spread
we are pedestrian as we are not going to buy anyone! its al spin that comes out of the club, the cockneys are great at it!! wait for the normal 1st Feb comment ‘ we tried, but cudnt pull the deals off’ its all utter bollox, AP(puppet) goes on about player profiles, dossiers, scouting, forward planning etc.. the only thing he would have planned is his wedding!! the man is a joke and been found out!! he is not upto the job and neither is DL
324 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM
I agree P, I think we will struggle for the rest of the season but reading, wigan, qpr and villa are really poor teams and if we finish below any of them i will be surprised. Having said that if we lose colo and dont replace him and ba then I will start to get very worried.
325 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM
Rotonda,
I also agree, Pardew could of mixed it up, changed some things.
With Ba & Cisse, I genuinely believe Pardew had the best interests of the club at heart here. We were all desperate for them to click and he wanted to keep Ba at the club. Unfortunetly it never worked out and we all know now Ba would have left regardless if they had bagged 10 goals each at this point.
The only standout player for me has been Ba this season, and thats because his main motivation in the time he has been here was for his big move away. Hence, his really selfish disloyalty at being put out on the left. His market value and reputation was going down while he couldn’t score. He didnt care about the team doing well, he wanted to score goals to generate his big move. This shows what Ba’s main intentions were. Nufc as a team never entered his mind. Everyone else has under performed from day one, maybe with the exception of Santon. But imo, he is a little overhyped, he is shining in an under performing team.
I’ll say it again, imo, the problems go way deeper into the club than the manager. I don’t think Pardew is an excellent manager. He was a manager who did excellent last season with a full squad WITH very few injuries. He had that luxury of putting out a continous 1st 11. We had ryhtmn. We had the chance to go on runs. Our first 11 are very capable, sadly our bench and second string is very lacking and thats been a major problem this season due to the board. No quality in depth.
This window, we have to show our team some ambition and get in the bodys needed. I feel the squad has a massive lack of belief and confidence at the minute. And that is not just because of where we are sitting in the table. Its much more.
326 Spreadthetoon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:39 PM
Jettison
If we sign no one then we do not deserve to remain in the premiership – its that simple. Given the volume of money that MA would stand to lose I cannot see that happening…..but I am very frustrated in that the fans are kept in the dark, they leave AP to do press statements that have entirely the opposite effect. I’m not sure if I was happier with Silence or the garbage coming out of APs mouth. It hardly inspired me……and what about the players……………..
327 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Ibiza I would do the swap … Bent scores goals but don’t rate his all round game … We need extra bodies I’d Cisse gets injured or does not hit form we have fcuked ! Please sign some quality CB is getting beyond a joke I don’t mind admitting it I’m getting desperate – like the old days at the end of the night no joy and you spot the fat lass and start to feel tempted
328 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Agreed Ibiza,
I don’t think the players have turned on Pardew, I feel the disbelief is sitting with the people upstairs. And the travesty what was last summer.
Ok, teatime.
Catch yas later tonight lads.
329 Tsunki // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM
I wonder if Llambias got a slap round the cheeks for all the ‘purples’ tosh? It all looks a bit embarrassing now doesn’t it? I can’t imagine what will happen to our back line if Ash and pards think they will keep Colo but don’t, and then fail to get a replacement at the last minute. Well I can – we would then be one of the 3 worst teams.
330 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM
Blaydon…Good ole desperation
A goal scorer for two weaker players in the squad doesn’t sound too bad, even though I don’t rate Bent that highly. I suppose we could do worse….did I just say that. Shoot me now
331 Mister Tuff // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM
I’m not a 100% bothered about Percy Parsnip now saying we’ll get 1-2 players when he originally stated 3-4. Percy is well known for forgetting what he has said previously -I have posted about his and the clubs bad PR previously.
If the board have been working hard behind the scenes, as we have been told, then I expect a minimum of 4-5 players -they’ve had plenty of time to get prepared.- but with only a fortnight left in the window the worry factor is increasing. If they declared some completed signings tomorrow it would be a boost.
I’ve just been reading a Charlton Blog from 2008 about Percy -dare I say it – what the Charlton bloggers were reporting then is more or less being repeated here- quite frightening -read it for yourselves if you want. Link;-
http://charltonathleticonline.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/pardew-out.html
332 p // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM
I think they will keep Colo to the end of the season, sign a decent CB that Colo will help get settled in. The defense, notwithstanding injuries will be pretty solid and even without a new forward, there should be sufficient goals in Cabaye, HBA and Cisse to keep us up.
My feeling is one of the reasons Tiote has been crap this season is that he is so worried about how crap the defense behind him is + Cabaye has not been around in space to give the ball to. I think if had better team around him, he would also improve.
333 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM
On the plus side most deals get done last two days of the window lets hope we have a couple in before then … Hangerland Alderweireld mwbia Sakho Samba Williams Bong … Please please please I’m begging now
334 always look on the bright side of life // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM
I am new here but all I am hearing is pessemism and seriously its not going to help anyone. Pardew isnt going anywhere, neither is Ashley and neither is Llambias.
Ashley may not be the most liked by me either but I also dont believe an investment which he has and has put millions into that he wants it to fail and be relegated. Despite everything and what everyone thinks of him, he has proven to be a very good businessman.
I am all for young talent and finding the next bargain out there on the continent but right now we need some experience. With the almost inevitability Colo will be on his way either soon or at the end of the season, we need people who know the division, the weather, the importance of staying up and the drive and fight to prove themselves.
The difficulty is finding them and them not being stupidly priced or wanting to come merely for money.
All the negativity on here regarding Bent, yeah he may not be the best off the pitch, but on it, his goal scoring record is good at the highest level, he would even probably be available on loan till the end of the season and even if he doesnt do much outside the box, if he puts it in the net, thats what would keep us safe in the division.
On the left, I think Guti tries, thats undeniable. I just dont think he has the ability to cross, I think despite it all, N’Zogbia also would be a possiblity, proven, knows the area and club, can score and I think would jump at the chance,
There is also experienced defenders out there who we could get, Samba or Gallas or even Hangeland. Experience, proven, relatively cheap and would fit straight into the team ready to grind out games till the end of the season.
I think the team needs a balance between youth, promise and experience. I know I will probably have everyone disagreeing with me but this is my first post and we need to stop acting like its the end of the world, its January, we havent done as well as last season, there is still 2 weeks of the window left, dont believe all the drivel written in the press, see what happens at the end of the window and get to the end of the season then reassess. changing manager now isnt going to happen and to be honest wouldnt help anything and would probably disrupt the team even more.
I think we will survive and then serious things need to happen in the summer but for now, the negativity on here seems fickle and support the team and the manager.
335 noladonna // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM
darren bent you have got to be joking me id rather have graham and thats saying something god!! this window just gets worse and worse its no wonder percy is doing an obama hide away in some cave somewhere
he cant get a game at villa for a reason he is shocking it takes balls for lambert to leave bent out the way he has this guy cost 24 million i wouldnt take him on a free
wheres this story come from anyway?? hope its not true the very last thing the club wants to do now is start panicking buying players that just aint good enough just get some loans in but buy a fucking centreback take the 8 million we bid on remy get a cb
336 Ian Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM
R Heights – you ask when will I now when it’s time for Pardew to go.
Not having arrived at that point I can’t really say. From my relatively young perspective, i approach such considerations with sweet reason without mass hysteria looking at the options that might put us in a better place. Decisions in football are so often a question of timing and value judgments. At what point did QPR decide to ditch Hughes and go for Redknapp. However, I don’t favour not making a decision in order not to be seen to be making a mistake! Circumstances change, although if they don’t change they stay the same. You see the dilemma ! But I promise that if I ever do think that it’s time for Pardew to head out of toon you’ll be the first to know. Maybe I am plain deluded because I am still pro Pardew and think that we’ll have an excellent second half of the season. I am though also encouraged that many older and generally football wiser posters share my view. It’s surely a question of timing and new horizons. . But please do not concern yourself any further as to how my views are perceived. Remember Thomas Carlyle ( who did he play for!) ” No man lives without jostling and being jostled ; in all ways he has to elbow himself through the world, giving and receiving offence.” Time will tell and I promise not to change my pseudonym or say I told you so. It will be a profound shock to me if we’re not playing PL football next season. Thanks for reading.
337 Williamsonsuks // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM
They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with this non investing malarkey. If there is a wage cap, limits to how much you can spend, surely there should be a rule for minimum investment. Maybe just a % of turnover. Highly unlikely but the fans spend there last and get nowt in return. There has to be a line.
338 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Good first post mr brightside …. Love that tune
339 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 17, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Always….Hear hear! “You’ll see it’s all a show, keep ‘em laughing as you go, just remember that the last laugh is on you……aaaaannnnndddd (altogether now) Always look on the bright side of life”
Welcome to the blog
340 Sav // Jan 17, 2013 at 10:10 PM
Move on, Ed. Please. The only embarrassing thing is an obsession with ‘being snubbed’ and all that shite. If we had 85k to throw at a player, we should have thrown it at Ba, not this other joker.
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