Demba Ba’s agents were not exactly professional in the way they tried to sell Demba Ba last summer and this month, when his release clause became active – so they could give themselves a good pay-day – for the third time in two years, after they were paid fees for his transfer to West Ham from Hoffenheim, then to Newcastle and now Chelsea – wonder how long it will be before they try to move him on from Chelsea?
Alan Pardew – new process could cut agents out of transfers
And it seems like Loic Remy representatives were not exactly above board with Newcastle, as they quietly talked to QPR without letting Newcastle know what was going on.
Football agents do not have a good name these days, and they are one reason that transfers have become just one of the dark sides of football.
This is what Alan said of transfers – and about trying to keep them secret:
“There’s no chance of keeping a secret, trust me. The way transfers are geared is that you’re not allowed to approach players, you have to go through an agent. Then it’s never secret.”
“I actually read that they’re trying to put a process together where clubs can have an internet system where it’s secure. You can put players who are available on there and talk to clubs directly. I think that’s a good idea, it would be nice to see that implemented.”
“Even in the summer I can’t remember too many transfers that don’t get bashed around every other club when you get near the end.” “Trust me, these agents – some of them – don’t really care too much about distributing that information. They’re always looking for the best deal.”
That seems a good idea to have some confidentiality on transfers, and it would put an end to football agents – which would be a very good thing for the game – and money would be saved by clubs that they have to pay out to agents these days, for rather dubious work.
We’d like to see that implemented or at least given a try – to see how it works.
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69 responses so far ↓
1 Grafton83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM
They should change the system to eb the same as it is for actors, you pay your agent a small percentage of your pay. Wonder how many footballers would still want agents then espiecally the more expensive ones.
2 JackButler // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM
“They’re always looking for the best deal.”
No shit Sherlock
3 veto // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM
yeah he’s fine with them when they are doing their dirty deeds for our benefit
4 Dannyo // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM
Agents shouldn’t be anywhere near involved until a bid is actually accepted by the club.
It would help the clubs keep things much more under wraps, but when the bid was accepted, the agents gets involved, there would still be speculation.
But the player wouldn’t be sold by the agent before the club actually sold him.
5 toon smart // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM
I think Danny Graham would be a good signing for the club as he would push the current strikers to perform better and he would set an example to the rest of the squad regarding what it means to play for a team you really want to play for – i think he would inspire some of the other players, which is what you need at this point in the season and when we are in the position we are in.
6 Nufc-83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM
in regards to Ngog he is the worst st i have seen play in the premier league for a long time the guy is just like willo in that i cant honestly see how they made it to a level even to league 1 let alone the premiership. I have been to many liverpool games as a large amount of my friends support liverpool and so if they had spare tickets mainly european games where ngog would start i would go. I used to laugh at how bed this gut was and take the piss big time. I would be distraught if we brought him in.
7 rainrix // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Well at least then we might actually get a surprising out of the blue transfer instead of the slow “bid sent, bid accepted, terms agreed medical due” We get now, kinda makes ITK’s pointless when you can see these things coming a mile away
8 Nufc-83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Also Danny graham, although 10x the player ngog is would still be nowhere near the level of player we need. We also need a pacy hardworking type.
9 Grafton83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Everyone knows agents do very little actual work and get paid astronomic amounts which removes money from the game.
Give it 25 years and fifa might actual decide to tackle the issue, I mean they’re moving at the speed of lightning to tackle other issues such as racism and goal line technology. Gotta love those hard workign souls at the top of the game
10 JackButler // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2013/01/18/i-m-still-only-man-for-job-says-nufc-boss-pardew-72703-32626992/?
11 WWYCD // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM
proudtobageordie // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM
To be honest I don’t think pardew has a clue what is going on regards transfers
People in glass houses mate
12 toon smart // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM
@TS
Mittal has been co-owner since 2008, he could have invested then, he could have got a better manager then but he hasn’t done this. I think he is very much a back seat co-owner and it Fernades who is doing the spending at the moment.
13 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM
They have 31 days to get players in no ficking excuse now their saying 2 players in when we need 5 what a load of swallocks !
14 masterp1983 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Please please can we put in an offer for Darren bent!! I’m sure he is available and would really help us. If not him anelka till end of season. Then Graham. Would prefer a pacey striker like Bellamy but who else is available now???
15 richyg01 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM
@14
I would second that shout for Bent like.
Even bring in Graham and Bent.
How about Stuart Downing, Livepoo have said he can leave.
16 toon smart // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:26 AM
@NUFC-83
I think the most important quality we need on a player now is the will to bust a nut for the team. I think Danny Graham will do that and get some goals too. A pacy striker would help but don’t under-estimate the effect a passionate player can have on the rest of the team.
17 John Tudor // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM
feeble attempt to look intelligent
http://whatculture.com/sport/newcastle-transfer-news-alan-pardew-fears-relegation-without-signings.php?
18 nufc1984 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Pardew is starting to really pee me off with his constant verbal diarrhoea! One minute it’s close on 3-4 and next we need a couple of players. It’s a disgrace. He should just keep his trap shut or make comments that don’t build the fans hopes up. Starting to really dislike the ongoing garbage at this once Great club. Don’t even like walking into stadium as much as I used to. All seems a bit down and depressing. I long for a rich Arab!!
19 proudtobageordie // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Wwycd
what
20 headtheball // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM
He asks us to trust him. Well I used to but not for a long time.Trust should be earned.
We are working hard? Same old same old.
21 check the toastie // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Strange Pardrip has said he has been on a coaching course this week, all sounds quite bizarre, think he might have been more useful sorting out how we are going to pass the ball about on saturday or maybe get involved in some recruitment. Maybe even try and convince some decent CB to join the club, oh no we dont need one as Saylor is back, for at least 2 games. pfffttttt……..
22 croftus5678 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM
http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/west-london-sport-qpr/remy-decision-to-join-qpr-not-based-on-money-in-any-way
ahahahaahahaha we should of sined him at any expence as the lad would have had the dressing room in stitches (great for moral).
23 John Tudor // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM
wow new signing saylor could feature
24 richyg01 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM
HR – Remy chose us over Newcastle because he was worried they would play him out wide. We will play him through the middle, that’s his best position.
From SSN
25 BelfastMagpie // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Danny Graham would be a decent buy. Should still sign another striker aswell as Graham. Gary Hooper would probably be my choice.
26 richyg01 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Norwich has lodged a £5M bid for Graham according to SSN.
27 JackButler // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM
We need defenders desperately
28 Rotonda heights // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Ibiza
I was pointing out what he has to choose from generally and a lot of other managers would kill for the quality we have assembled.
Sorry for being silly, I do apologise
29 proudtobageordie // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Ffs I got the remy thing completly wrong. I’m not the only one to do this. Move on its starting to get boring now.
30 richyg01 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM
According to reports from France in L’Equipe, Chelsea could be ready to let Florent Malouda leave Stamford Bridge in January as a free agent. The out-of-favour French international still has six months remaining on his contract but has not featured for the Blues since coming on as a substitute in the UEFA Champions League final victory over Bayern Munich back in May. (SSN)
31 John Tudor // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM
if we see arry as a wheeler dealer everyone must see llambarse as a wannabe 60s gangaster a poor one at that
32 WWYCD // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Proud
Someone who claims to know our transfer dealings (incorrectly) saying anyone else knows nothing about our transfer dealings… strikes me as a little iffy
33 JDdubai // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM
@NUFC1984 @18
I try every time the shiekh comes to the hotel here to convince him to buy Newcastle, he is into football but just laughs it off. Really dont think he thinks Im serious!!!
34 croftus5678 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM
ngog is same kind of style player as remy as in behind the striker in a creative more than a scoring mould so maybe they have a type of player they want to assist cisse i think 2mil for ngog is a great buy 23 is a decent player (much underated) he’s quite fast aswell and has a decent shot and worst case senario he would be great squad player def better than shola.
think about it if we go for a big target man striker it will be longball football being played best to keep it on the floor as we are not too good in the air.
35 Rotonda heights // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM
nufc1984
could have had one (the city owners) if ashley wasn’t so greedy.
it’s now obvious that us and rangers are just flag flying marketing opportunities for sports direct and as long as we don’t get relegated he couldn’t give a …
36 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Alderweireld, Sissoko and 2 strikers need to be signed otherwise we’re in trouble.
37 BelfastMagpie // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Cheer up Butler you big angry bear.
38 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Football fans amaze me. Last year, all was good, pardew had surprised everyone and done well. Poor start to this season, most to do with bad luck on injuries on our paper thin squad. Pardew has had NO ONE to choose from, has had to play people out of position, I’d I’d say 75 percent of our games. The game where ba was dropped last min, he had the team set up with him in it, so had to stick with what they’d trained for. Now this is due to not enough players signed. We KNOW that’s the boards fault. Pardew can’t have a plan B, because there is no personel at all to implement it. Alex fergusson would struggle with the players we have available.
39 spitfire_ // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM
And we will have another 7 years of this sh!t… Jesus F Christ. I already can’t stand Pardew… I vomit every time when saw him.
40 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Ketsbaia… Are you a parrot?
41 Grafton83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM
I still think there is too much blame on transfers for our current league position. Pardew has been poor at best with everything he’s done this year. If we some how limp through this season and stay in the league he has to go the minute we’re safe. It’s obvious he doesn’t have the talent or the skills needed to take us forward. If I wrote a list of potential newcastle managers that I thought were better than him it would be a very long list.
1) My Nan
2) my Nans plant pot
3) A dipping bird toy
4) A brick
5) Peter Reid (too far?)
42 John Tudor // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM
nope but pardew is
43 richyg01 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Players who are available who could do a job for us:
FLORENT MALOUDA,
STEWART DOWNING,
MICHAEL DAWSON,
JAMES McCARTHY,
TOM INCE,
CHARLIE AUSTIN,
GARY HOOPER,
FERNANDO LLORENTE,
IAGO ASPAS,
YOAN GOUFFRAN,
RICKY VAN WOLFSWINKEL
44 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM
By blaming pardew, you are absolving ashley and co of any blame. Hope you all realise that. The problem is a paper thin squad, you can’t blame both the board AND the manager. Logical
45 richyg01 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Iago Aspas has a buy out clause of £8.2M. The lad is only 25 and is destined for a call up to the Spanish first team.
Sounds like a bargain to me.
46 alex84 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Kets you must have a constant headache banging your head against a brick wall…we will not sign those players! even if we tried team’s will just offer more wage and that’s that.
47 richyg01 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM
SSN Latest:
Newcastle may have missed out on Loic Remy, but France Football are reporting that the Magpies are very keen to sign St Etienne striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, while L’Equipe claim that the Magpies have held initial talks with Bastia over full-back Florian Thauvin.
48 Rotonda heights // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:45 AM
croftus
You might just have something there with n’gog.
huge things were expected but never really happened
for him. at 23 maybe a change of scenery could work.
Mind you they said that about obertan!
49 John Tudor // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:45 AM
nope your right the owners to blame but he stands by a what is becoming blatently obvious poor manager
50 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:45 AM
JB & Belfast…not pulling your leg here about Kaka, but he wants away badly and Real are willingly to let him go…
…this is as serious as what others are suggesting.
Kaka and Fabbrini on loan and spend everything else on our defense.
51 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Its all pardews fault for not having a magic ar*e to pull a super-sub out of when we’re losing.
52 Rotonda heights // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM
richy
that’s a bit more promising. PEA would definitely be a crowd pleaser and the other guy is a winger I believe but very good from all accounts. Come on Llambias
53 proudtobageordie // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Wwycd
I don’t. Claim to know anything I just shared info that was passed to me and. was excited. The way it was worded was wrong and yes I have learned the hard way.
54 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM
@croftus he ain’t as bad as people are making out. as a sub he’d be fine. as long as whenever expected to be lone striker. plus at 23 he’ll really wanna prove himself.
i do doubt we ate in for him though so not too fussed.
55 Grafton83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM
It is Pardews fault for playing such obvious and ineffective tactics time and time again. Transfers is only one part of it.
56 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:51 AM
John: serious question then… When we start a game with lots of kids because of injuries… 65 mins in, one-nil down… What do you do? Who do you bring on, and what system do you change to (we started 433)? This is an honest question, I’m not trying to cause greif.
57 Transfer Sage // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Markaccus
most people here give blame to pardew as well as Ashley.
The general consensus is that Ashley and co have underspent in the summer, didn’t improve the squad to the right level and left us woefully short of quality and experience outside of the first 11.
However most people also accept that pardew has made mistake as well and that he hasn’t got the best out of the players when he has had them available.
Nobody is saying it is easy for pardew but likewise it isn’t the impossible job he is making it out to be.
I back Pardew and will judge him over the full season, thats my stance. I do, however, call for the immediate dismissal of derek llambias.
58 Grafton83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:53 AM
A good manager would have coped much better with the injuries we’ve had. You also have to question why we have so many injuries because I don’t think it can be just put down to coinsidence that our injury list is so bad. Training? Bringing back players too soon, that’s all Pardews fault.We do have a club policy of signing injury prone players as they’re cheaper, it’s madness. Pardew must have been at those meetings, he has zero influence, just a puppet on a string, he needs to speak up if he disagrees.
59 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Rotonda…It seems I caused offense, which was not the intention. Just saying Debuchy was a bad example as he’s only played one game so didn’t fit what in with that you said. There are plenty of examples to back up your opinion, but he’s not one of them.
60 Grafton83 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:55 AM
@Transfer Sage, a balanced and fair appraisal. I’ve seen enough to know I want a new manager as soon as we’re safe though. I think it would be more likely we’d be relegated if we got rid of Pardew without anyone decent ready to take over.
61 Rotonda heights // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:56 AM
markacckus
Way to easy an excuse. You talk like it’s anew phenomena. We were rubbish before injuries because of the stupid reversion to 442 when 433 had been magnificent for us and cabs, benny and cisse.
Playing ba and cisse for so long in a 442 was never going to work. As for injuries Marveaux has had to wait ages and only just now got a game and should have been played left of a front 3 with ba and cisse rotating in the middle.
No manager has to tell simmo, willo and krul to hoof it so that we have a worse long balls played record than stoke. It’s by choice not design. No manager has to tell the players to sit on a 1-0 lead no matter how early in the game they take the lead. No manager has to put Sammi on ahead of Marveaux. Etc , etc
62 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Grafton, again, what choice does he have? What if, when everyone is fit (and hopefully we have managed to get some new stock) our results improve, and our football begins to flow? Serious question. We saw what pardew did last season with a fit first team, and 2 strikers who had half a season each of utter brilliance. He was in charge when we totally out played Man U, and it was him who masterminded the stoke victory at britania stadium, by out-stoking stoke. If things don’t improve with better players, I will hold my hands up and say fair enough, he’s shot his bolt, time for a change. I’m reserving judgement of pards till then.
63 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Why? We managed to sign Anita. We managed to sign Ben Arfa. We managed to sign Cabaye. Why can’t we sign Sissoko/Alderweireld?
I also think we should hijack Benfica’s bid for Sulejmani.
64 Pardew You Dog You // Jan 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Just get Danny Graham in! Hes available on the cheap and can do a job in the Premier League. He loves Newcastle and would be more than up for the fight we need players like him. Players that care!
65 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Rotonda… That’s one fault I can accept… And it was down to him being to soft on ba and cisse. He should have stuck to 443 with ba wide. He funked off anyway so it didn’t placate him. Definite mistake there by pards. But people saying better managers would cope better with injuries, I disagree. Wenger and mancini’s teams both lost form during injury prone times, and their squads are much better than ours. Just saying.
66 Markaccus // Jan 18, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Yeah, kets, because we’re a much more appealing club than Benfica….
67 matty golder // Jan 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Why don’t we just forget about ngog and sign graham he a lot better then ngog and for £5m which will be good and he’s a Newcastle fan maybe agents won’t get in the way of this one
68 sirjasontoon // Jan 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Shut up Pardew you PLEB.
69 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM
You’re right there. There’s only 3/4 decent teams in the portugeuse league.
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