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Things Look Bleak – But There’s Still Hope If We Keep The Faith

4:33 pm, Sunday, January 20th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 288 Comments

It was really a shocker yesterday for us to lose to Reading at home, after winning all seven of our previous games against them at St. James’ Park – but it was almost a perfect storm – everything that could go against us went against us, and some were self-inflicted, and to be fair to the lads, in that first half we looked a good side with Yohan Cabaye nothing short of superb.

yohan cabaye sunderland goal

Yohan Cabaye – this lad is simply simply world class – fact!

And if we can keep Yohan fit – the good news is that groin of his seems okay –  and maybe get Ben Arfa back – these two lads can help us escape from yet another relegation struggle, although we may still find it difficult to keep them in the summer.

But there are some good points coming out of the game yesterday – in retrospect  - even after being completely shocked by yesterday’s result.

Here are a few of them:

  • Yohan Cabaye looked a world class player yesterday – and was easily the best man on the park followed by goalkeeper Adam Federici, who saved Reading in that first half – if we can keep Yohan fit he will be a huge player for us in the final 15 games of the season
  • Sylvain Marveaux is looking like the player we thought we had signed eighteen months ago, and this lad has now been one of our best players over the last coupe of months – and he deserves enormous credit for his creative play in a black and white shirt of late – one of the few players available who has creative talents
  • Papiss Cisse looked sharp in the first half,  and could even have had a hat-trick, as he did everything with on three different occasions, only for that Federici guy to make some great game-saving stops
  • Mathieu Debuchy looked a class act at right back, and he will quickly become a top right back in the Premier League and along with Davide Santon we had two excellent full backs on display

But it’s also true that Alan Pardew probably cost us the win yesterday, but now’s not the time to gang up on the manager.

Now’s the time when the support of our fans is more important than ever – however difficult things are right now, and to be honest – yesterday’s result was really hard to bear.

And it’s time for Mike Ashley to step up to the plate too, big time, and he has to do the following in the next 11 days to give Newcastle a fighting chance of survival

  • Keep Coloccini at the club – just tell him tomorrow that’s not way he can leave before the summer – period – sorry – but that’s the way it is
  • Sign Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa of Montpelier and Nancy left back Massadio Haidara as soon as possible so they have at least a week to train with the Newcastle side before our next game a week on Wednesday at Villa Park
  • Bring in a top striker – even Danny Graham would be a good signing right now – but we must bring in in another goalscorer to soften the blow of losing Demba Ba and one goal from a midfield in the three games since Ba left for Chelsea pinpoints a huge weakness in the Newcastle side
  • Bring in another central midfielder since that’s been a weakness since Cabaye has been out – somebody like Moussa Sissoko would be a decent buy

We know it’s in vogue to put up votes about should we keep Alan Pardew as manager, (as if we didn’t know what the result will look like after such a dreadful and painful defeat), and yes he needs to start getting results – that’s very true – because we cannot keep losing games.

But it’s the stability at the club right now, which is one of the big differences from four years ago – and one of the few positives.

Things are hardly in a good state  results wise, but we can still avoid the drop and quite honestly right now we’ll be very pleased (make that ecstatic), if we can finish 4th bottom of the league in May.

It’s a hell of a lot better than finishing 3rd bottom – and then we can really strengthen the squad in the summer – even if we lose some of our best players in the process.

Things are bad – but we still have hope – so lets at least try to keep the faith – however difficult that looks right now – for the sake of the club.

And whoever said it was easy supporting Newcastle United?

Certainly not me.

Howay The Lads!!

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288 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toonboy_84 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    It’s hard keeping the faith at the moment

  • 2 Carpet Shark // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Its sunday. Wheres the paper talk

  • 3 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    It doesnt matter what players come in pardew canny seem to motivate the players and new players wont make a difference cos he,ll play the same tactics and make the same mistakes time snd time again dont get me wrong he had a brilliant season last year but only 2 wins out the last 18 im sorry but any other manager would be out the door we need to change before its to late

  • 4 Grafton83 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    http://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2013/01/blogs/newcastle-favourites-to-land-aston-villa-striker?

    Sky has as favourites to sign Bent
    I’ll take almost anyone right now above Strolla and Ranger

  • 5 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Danny Graham is not coming to Newcastle

  • 6 Jonny // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    I would actually happily take bent, a proven goal scorer at this level. Rather than risking a frenchie that could score 0 and send us down.

  • 7 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Lads, if we persuade Collo to stay and partner him with Mbiwa we will have a top class pairing. One of the best around. There is hope. Think positive. As Quantum physicist’s say, “you create your own reality” lol. Well think positive and we will get a positive response. This window could be a good one. Collo stays, we bring in Mbiwa and Heidiara, Sissoko and Sein De Jong and a striker. Think positive pleaseeee lol. :)

  • 8 Tekkers29 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    There was nothing wrong with cabaye.

    I heard 3x interviews he made yesterday and in the first one he said nothing about the injury or cabaye asking to come off then when in the later interviews with sky and the bbc after he realised what he had done then it was a injury and cabaye wanted to come off.

    the man is a F ing liar.

    im trying to find the interview i first heard in which he said that he thought cabaye was looking tired so he brought him off. Also to sub Marv before that and leave shola on the pitch when the guy can’t play for more than 30 mins is a joke.

    If this guy is not sacked soon we are in deep S**T

    i challenge anyone to find more than 10 games last season when we played well. Pardew was very lucky that the big players changed the games when we were not playing well.

    Any team that controls games will have at least a few 3 or 4 nil games but apart from the Man u game a can’t think of any which means we were not in control of most games last season. I can think of loads of games where we won by 1 goal or drew in which Krul made 3 or 4 great saves.

    I have to say i was behind him at first because he talked a good game and talked about how he was going to change the way we played and he wanted us to dominate teams. but if you watch the team you can tell we are going backwards and the guy does not understand how to coach players how to pass and move.

  • 9 Anth // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Iv heard pardews been sacked!

  • 10 jettson1971 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    well i would take Danny Graham without hesitation!
    he scores goals, he is a target, he can move, he is a striker, if anyone didnt know Shola isnt any of the above.
    Yesterdays performance by Shola was a disgrace!! he was out of breath by 15mins, he will never and has never been a top class striker!!
    As for AP tactics = clueless, it is AP and tactics that are taking this club down, them na has not got a clue.
    easy remedy = buy 2 defenders, a strong box to box midfielder and 2 strikers!
    anything else then there is no hope!
    we cant have the likes of Ranger and Sammi on bench as they both are Div1 standard at the very best
    if AP had balls, he would resign now!! any manager would after such a bad run, the oworst iv ever known as a ST holder of over 23yrs!!

  • 11 sirtoongospel // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    We had 2 great full backs on show yesterday??? Ed, santon cost us big style. Arguably for both goals. Going forward he is great, but he can’t track and any ball in behind tears him a new A-Hole. It is important that he is moved higher up the pitch and a new LB is brought in. A CB and a LB plus a striker and we are in business. Wether it happens or not is anyone’s guess. Too many let downs to get confident. If the reports are right then 2 defenders in by Wednesday, and then a week toget the striker we desperately need.

  • 12 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Anth don’t get my hopes up!! It’s 100% not true. Why would Ashley sack pardew? Even though it makes sense to us it won’t to him as no one else would work with him.

  • 13 mattnufc // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    We need a bladdy winger.

  • 14 barry_ben_arfa // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    I’ve lost my usual unshakeable optimism with Pardew. Mainly as I detest people who make excuses instead of plotting a way out of trouble. Excuses don’t get you points.
    I can see that our squad isn’t as big as Man Utds or Spurs but at the same time we are putting out teams each week that should easily be beating the likes of Reading, villa, Southampton etc.
    Before the season started Pardew sent out his typical war-cry, which was “the fans need to lower expectations we aren’t going to come in the top six this year.” And he’s followed it up by saying the players he has or his reserves aren’t good enough at least once a week. Is it any wonder the team are playing without belief when the white flag was put up before a ball was kicked and he’s done nothing but put his players down. Is this the type of leader you would look for for inspiration. Constantly using the excuse of injuries doesn’t help either, he has still had a team most other managers would dream of for all the season.
    He has also blamed the youths, who got us through Europe and rarely played in the premier for our bad premiership form, telling them they aren’t good enough. This excuse was the moment I turned on him, it’s disgraceful. These young players need games and encouragement, not to be made scapegoats for the likes of Jonas, Williamson, Simpson, Perch, Ameobi, Obertan & Cisse. All of these woeful players have escaped criticism and in the case of Obertan received constant praise. I regret including Cisse in this list as it’s not his fault Ba blackmailed the club into playing him in the middle and using long ball so he could boost his chances of a big pay deal elsewhere. Perch is the new Alan Smith, he looks good when the team play awful because at least he tries and he’s consistently mediocre. Yet when the other players perform at a level above mediocre he looks awful. He can’t pass to save his life and contributes nothing going forward. Defensively his positioning is all over the place but Pardew loves him because he did a job last season. We need players who can pass, like Marveaux then we wouldn’t need to be constantly chasing the ball.
    Also with regards to tactics, earlier when we had HBA we should have been playing 433 and AP played 442. Now we have no inside forwards, we should be playing 442 and he’s playing 433 with Shola the slowest man on the planet on the wing. At least with Ba gone we seem to have ditched playing long-ball. Maybe the clue we’re a team of little guys who haven’t scored from a corner in two years aided his decision.

  • 15 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    We should play Santon on the left wing.

  • 16 Mancgeordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    @tekkers I know what you mean how many games last season was we dominated by the opposition missing chancea or krul making save after save n we nicked a winner or held on for a drawer, not saying we was lucky last season but it did paper over the cracks defensively. I backed pards til yesterday I just feel now yeah we need a 3 defenders but a fresh approach its like he is crumpling under the pressure and unsure of how to change it

  • 17 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Toon78 i agree santon in left midfield and if we get haidara him at left back santon reminds me of bale when he was at left back with spurs great goin forward pish defendin and santon has cost us a few goals defensively be a lot better goin forward attackin and gettin at players

  • 18 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Ed
    Your talking about 5 new players
    2 CB
    1 AM b2b or equivalent dominator like Sissoko
    2 ST

    Don’t disagree but cannot see that happening. People talking about Darren Bent????Helllo!!! He plays for Villa who are in a relegation battle and EVEN they don’t play him!

  • 19 SWHITEY // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Short sighted, lacking of a long term plan, arrogant and a refusal to build upon last years success’ this epitomises the leadership at our club. In any walk of life this invariably leads to failure. Ed whilst needed, I question your point of bringing in upto 6 new players during the window, it will bring its own problems….this should have been addressed over this and the summer window. If we can get an additional 2 in this will help, but pardew will need to earn his 8 year contract with the players we have got. We will now see how good he really is

  • 20 giimps // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Cabaye will have been running on empty, I have no problem taking him off.
    Marv should have stayed and Strolla should never have started.
    1st half is prob the best I have seen us this season and we controlled the game and Cisse was very unlucky.
    Strolla did nothing and Gutti was stifling play but when they were not involved we were decent.
    We should be playing attacking football, get more players up the pitch.
    The one time Strolla did something good (didnt fall over when tackled) he looked up and Cisse was offside, he obviously didnt know what else to do so he lost the ball.
    We need intelligent players who can read the game (Shola, Willo and Gutti are not the answer) they do not have footballing brains and if we continue playing them we will be relegated.
    A lot of people are slating Ranger for telling the “fans ” not to boo or have a go.I agree with him, it does no good, I understand the anger at Pards for his stubbornness but I will never boo any player who dons the shirt.
    I understand that the boos were aimed at the manager but obviously the players dont, booing is hardly the motivation they need.
    I would drop strolla and Gutti , play with cisse and Marv and Anita up top , Cabaye Bigi and Perch cm and pray to god we get an defender who can read the game and react before its too late.
    If we do , we should be ok, especially when we get Benny back and another striker.
    HWTL

  • 21 Mancgeordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Been saying for ages buy a left footed lb and put Santon lw he is quick enough can beat a full back and technically good enough to cross or shoot

  • 22 Rossy G // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    KRUL
    DEBUCHY – MBIWA – COLOCCINI – SANTON
    CABAYE – ANITA/TIOTE
    BELHANDA
    BEN ARFA – CISSE – ALESSANDRINI

    SUBS: ELLIOT, TAYLOR, PERCH , ANITA/TIOTE, MARVEAUX, OBERTAN, CAMPBELL

    REASONABLY PRICED PLAYERS IN TODAY’S MARKET AND GETABLE BUT JUST A DREAM….ASH WILL NEVER PAY HAT MUCH…..SAD THING IS WHILE WE ARE FIGHTING RELEGATION WE WILL LIKELY LOOSE BEN ARFA, CABAYE, ETC IN SUMMER UNLESS WE GET IN TOP HALF AT LEAST…..

  • 23 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Darren Bent??? What is the point in buying a striker like Bent? We need a striker like remy. Someone has a lot of pace and play wing as well as striker

  • 24 giimps // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    The reason Santon looks poor is because Gutti keeps falling over (which used to get a free kick) which leaves Santon out of position.
    If we do get this leftback and Santoon moves forward we need another striker to go 442.
    If we play 433 and Santon is covered by Bigi and Perch when he goes up field we could do that vs Villa.
    HWTL

  • 25 5Danny94 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    I don’t think we can afford to lose anybody in the summer. Even substitutes. Last year we thought we’d done well to hold on to our superstars, while players like Best and Guthrie slipped out the door. I would love to have Best and Guthrie back now…

  • 26 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Ranger doesn’t give a carp about the fans booing, it’s just an excuse for having a pop at the fans. He always plays the victim role on twitter and regularly argues with our own fans whilst siding with other fans. He is the worst kind of player to have a twitter account, he doesn’t give a damn about anyone but himself and is vocal against the fans. He’s a less intelligent joey Barton without the ability to play football. Crass footballer!

  • 27 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Keep hearing Bents name being mentioned. Would be a canny signing.

  • 28 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Bent? Depends how much he costs. He’s 29 next month.

  • 29 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Krul
    Debuchy MBiwa Coloccini Haidarra
    Cabaye Anita Marveaux
    Benny Cisse Santon

    Would like to see someone like Gouffran come in, probably the cheapest option and has 8 goals in 19 this season playing on the wing. Would absolutely love crazy deadline day for Newcastle, obviously for all the right reasons this time!

  • 30 ToonJovi // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Even if Cabaye was injured! Still no excuse for pardew bring ANOTHER defensive totally in creative player on the pitch when we had Obertan and ferguson sat on the bench!

  • 31 gaz 44 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    heard the other week we had been scouting that Roman allesendrinio or something from rennes and looks like he scored today

  • 32 numba9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    two defenders and two strikers needed, i mean we need options i would go for bent and graham both!!!!

  • 33 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Daztoon
    I apologise for the delay in replying to your earlier post on Anita.The players you mentioned brought back happy memories of the Keegan era.Batty and Brace were top quality defensive midfielders and Venison was converted from a top quality defender to a super defensive midfielder by KK.they were 5th 8 ins and 11/ 12 stone.I never regarded Lee Clark as a defensive player more creative but he fitted into the same physical category.

    I regard Cabaye as a creative mid fielder who can handle himself but far to good to be the defensive midfielder as this generally means remaining in a defensive position when attacking midfielders go forward.

    As always everyone can have a different view as no one’s opinion is any better than any one elses!

    Thanks for the debate and especially for reviving memories of the Keegan era.

    I retain the view that we need strong physical player for defensive midfield or perhaps to play just in front of the back four and we are certainly missing Tiotie.

  • 34 hotdog // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Watching Vidic & Ferdinand for Man U v Spurs. So composed and organised. Once we find defenders of this quality we might win something. Ive been saying that for a while though :-(

  • 35 newcastle10 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    alan pardew next manager to be sacked 1/2 with sky bet might be sumtin in it

  • 36 wolfshead@toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    if we bought messi and iniesta pards would still c*ck things up

  • 37 Sir Braveheart // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    @ToonJovi

    Ferguson wasnt on the bench. And Obertan was brought on. Check your facts mate.

  • 38 hotdog // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    ohh aye and Man u are 1-0 up and still attacking! No sitting back inviting pressure for them. Just like the Keegan years :-)

  • 39 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Lads, how reliable is beIN sports? They say Mbiwa will be signing on Tuesday. He has a lot of followers lol.

  • 40 lesh // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    According to this one, personal terms discussions on-going and in the light of Llambias’ record so far, I’d guess it’s not gonna happen!

    http://www.cominghomenewcastle.com/2013/1/20/3896496/newcastle-united-nufc-mapou-yanga-mbiwa-personal-terms

    As far as Ed’s recommendions for immediate action, there’s no need for any background to justify them – unless Ashley and Llambias are totally oblivious to the plight we’re in.

    And on the subject of Pards, yesterday was the first time I’ve suggested a change might be a good thing after all, he must be feeling the heat and thus be disheartened. Those anxieties would naturally be picked up by the dressing room and their enthusiasm and will to win will will have been drained if not near-drained following one and a half windows when there are few if any signs of ambition from the club’s leadership.

    DeMattio did a good interim job at Chelsea and we could do lot worse as long as we went along with Carr’s recommedations and bought as required to strengthen the first team. A combination of new faces and new ideas may just be what’s needed to pull us lout of the mire we’re in.

    On the subject of booing, whatever the jusitification for it, it is not good for our players, they don’t know they’re directed at the manager or the board and it only helps the opposition. A plea to the booers, [please think before boo and then don’t!

    Just a thought from one of many near dis-heartened supporters of Newcastle United.

    Ashley, Llmabias, wake up before it’s too late!

  • 41 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Lol
    Darren bent!
    Rather have emile heskey than the ex scum striker whos on about £80k at villa and he’s not the sort to take a pay cut

  • 42 hotdog // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    TOON1978 – Believe it when they are holding the shirt up, not before, as last weeks events proved!

    LESH – Never get the boo brigade and the people that shout “SHOOOT” when a player is 40 yeards out ie Debuchy yesterday. I dont think ive heard that at any other ground but its crept in a few times @SJP

  • 43 Sir Braveheart // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Hooper from Celtic anyone? 18 goals this season including a couple in Champions League. Used to the cold weather up North and wants a move to the Prem. Might cost us 7-8m but think he’d hit the ground running and pick up 8-10 goals before the end of the season.

  • 44 ToonIcon // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    There is no way MA will sanction a bid for Bent too old too lazy too much wages no resell value
    if we do sign a striker it will be from France or Holland

  • 45 newcastle10 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    rumors circulating on twitter that pardew has been sacked. 1/2 fav with sky bet might be sumting in it

  • 46 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    hotdog

    I know mate. Arsenal fans doing their nut about Mbiwa. Bunch of brats imo. Thinking they are entitled to all the best players. He still could go to them that’s how much LITTLE faith i have in Llambias and co.

  • 47 JTOONJ // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    I just can’t believe we’re in this position, i honestly wish we had just bought debuchy in summer and this defender and i honestly think we could of been comfortably in top 10!

  • 48 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Sir braveheart
    Yes! Ive been saying hooper for days!
    Small pacy proper little grafter and fighter and knows whete the net is could prob pick him for about £6 mil couple that with the fact celtic do buisness the way we like and want everything kept quiet until its done think he’d be a cracking signing!

    Rossy G
    Belhanda has gone to fenerbache hasnt he?

  • 49 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    sorry ed but you’re wrong.- now is the time to gang up on our socalled manager, because if we dont we are down.
    i dont want us to end up relegated again, but that is what will happen if he dosnt leave or get sacked. we have to save our season. sorry but the more abuse he gets the better, get someone in who understands the game a bit more – guide us to safety- then talk aqbout contracts when we are safe- but first we must secure safety – pardew out.

  • 50 ToonIcon // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    i think the club need to send Carr and the scouts to the German and Belgium leagues some very good players in these divisions

  • 51 hotdog // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    spurs 1-1 last minute of injury time – defo keegan years lol

  • 52 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    ToonIcon

    Belgium league has some quality players mate.

  • 53 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Ketsbaia 9, did you see the master class michael carrick put on today? remember you saying he was the poorest midfielder in the premier league the other day, couple of comments before you said xavi was average and overrated……

  • 54 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Hooper is not a grafter hes never in games we should be goin for better players than him

  • 55 Joe Blog // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Pardew’s sacking would breathe new belief into me, for one. With him at the helm, we’re pretty much already condemned and I’m resigned to Championship football – it can and will happen again if that incompetent remains in charge.

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Where are all these pardew sacked rumours? People saying its all over twitter but can only find something about him sledging? Dont get the point in making up B/S

    Anyone fancy a laugh search @evilkagawa on twitter!

    Iggystinger
    Like who? Think hoopers a good player basically a none injury prone shane long

  • 57 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    It was interesting to see the owl faced rat turd and his cunning boss at the match yesterday. I wonder what they thought of that magnificent performance? And that ingenious move to pull Marveaux off in the second half. Sheer brilliance. I can see pulling Cabaye off if he was injured but why Marveaux? And of what use was Shola in there? Again does Cisse understand the offside rule?

  • 58 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    stuar- I am with Ed. Your ill thought out course of action would most certainly get us relegated. Do you seriously imagine MA is going to find his cheque book to bring in the players wanted by Pardew at the very same time sacking the reigning Pl manager of the season. Wrong
    Wrong wrong. The bookie odds are designed to suck in mug punters.

  • 59 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    surprised we don’t have a european manager anyway, managers on the continent rarely get to choose players to sign or sell, that being left to a sporting director, instead they focus on tactics and coaching! A dutch manager like Koeman (although he’s too defensive) or Advocaat or even Lille’s Garcia will be well used to dealing with having their best players sold each season and having to deal with it and focusing on the players they have! Get the feeling this is the kinda manager our board would like, more of a head coach! If im honest would this be a bad thing? With Carr buying the players, a coach that focuses on being tactically astute and high level training might be a perfect fit!

  • 60 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Still don’t rate Carrick. Too weak and doesn’t run with the ball. Glad he isn’t playing for us. Anita is a much better player.

  • 61 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Toonarydownsouth
    i just dont rate hooper i live in scotland so i see him everyweek and he does’nt exactly play against top opposition i could play in the spl and bang in 30 goals i just think we could sign better

  • 62 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Newcastle10-don’t get your hopes up on pards getting sacked. Never happening pal. It’s Ashley’s mate. He’ll always be here hence the 8 year contract. I just wonder where we’ll be in 8 years. At this rate probably fighting to get out of league two with my other team york city

  • 63 Banjo // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Bookie odds are actually for the bookie to make the most money/ not lose money, they wouldn’t slash odds for fun, it’s probably without information though, just seen the disgrace that we’re in

  • 64 Grafton83 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Pardew has not been sacked yet, the players would have been told to meet early tomorrow if he had and that hasn’t happened + it would be all over twitter in seconds anyway and it isn’t. Stop getting my hopes up, he’s here for one more game at least.

  • 65 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    on that thought, i’d want Rene Girard to take over! Plays very very good football and is renound for his coaching of young players and bringing them through aswell as having to sell top players alot and replace them successfully with cheaper alternatives! As montpellier manager he won the league with the youngest squad ever and made superstars out of non entities Yanga-Mbiwa, Giroud, Belhanda etc

  • 66 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Spurs didn’t field the best line-up today. They also need 2/3 new strikers. If we signed Sissoko, Mbiwa and Gomis, we’d be on a par with Spurs. Man Utd are only better than us in the striking department. We have better and younger players.

  • 67 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Iggy
    Fair enough
    Who would you like too see brought in, realistically

  • 68 GeordieToon89 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    I’ve got a feeling we’ll announce these new players and then sack pardew and then my dream then is we announce Blanc as manager and give him a week to prepare for Villa

  • 69 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Not sure where people have got the idea that Pardew and Ashley are friends from….. theyre not! They have mutual friends who strongly recommended Ashley hire pardew but they are not the best of friends that people on here seem to think! One of my biggest clients met Ashley last year, my client is a massive stoke fan, box holder etc, good friends with their owner and he said Mike Ashley was football mad and was winding him up about the football stoke play! Said he was very passionate about newcastle and good football and that he was looking forward to toon pushing into the top 4 this season……

  • 70 Rossy G // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    BELHANDA is still available fene move fell through.

    If I had to pick 3 right now on realistic and quality it be Mbiwa, Haidara, and either Alessandrini or Mertens …….we will probably end up with Hadaira and Conor Salmon…….a Wigan reject like sibierski.

    We made more money in player sales in the summer than we did on purchases….if Ashley had a clue he’d give Pardew a proper warchest now to bring in 4 or 5 top players rather than go after Ben Sherman!

    Belhanda 8m, Alessandrini 7m, Mbiwa 7m, Haidara 2.5m

    25m ……take about 5m off for Ba………and we are talking 20m kitty noting we also made money in the summer and never spent the Carroll money I think that’s a small ask.

  • 71 geordie157 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Get Mbiwa and the left back in, at a striker who can also play on the left or right of a front 3 and sissoko, sorted. Sounds so easy.

  • 72 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    The fans need to get behind the manager and team. I agree with Pardew that booing for whatever reason and whom ever was not helpful. He’s acknowledged that it was a mistake to sub Marveaux. Let’s leave it and constant talk of the QPR recent signing. I am looking forward to 2-3 signings within the next week. This will provide the impetus to repair long recognised weaknesses in the defence. As I said earlier whether Coloccini stays or goes I would favour Cabaye as Captain. He has the respect and influence which has been lacking from Fab for some time. Jonas on the bench helping to close games down is a better prospect going forward. Always assuming the mentioned players do come in.

  • 73 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    84

    i’m clinging to the thought that ash is a ruthless business man and will put not losing out on all that tv money above keeping his ”tame manager ” mate.

    Jay

    I’v always thought we needed a foreign continental coach to improve our technical skills.

  • 74 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Just can’t see how this can end well for Pardew now. He was hanging on by the skin of his teeth. We beat Wigan when we had to at home and QPR as well (just barely) but now we lose a crucial game against the 19th place side at home with poor results from previous matches and difficult games to come. This is a real test of Ashley now. Is he ready to panic yet or will he wait until we slide into the drop zone? It seems only a matter of time. He will be getting no decent advice from owl faced rat boy who is clueless so who does he turn to? Probably another drinking buddy.

  • 75 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Rossy
    Ah didnt know that
    Think i would rather martens than allessadrini
    The £5 mil for ba went straight on debuchy

  • 76 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    It would break my heart to see this side go down because I know the likes of Cabaye & Ben Arfa will leave and I don’t blame them one bit. We are so close to being a great side and with 20 million we could be challenging for Europe with the likes of Spurs and Arsenal. Another relegation might be the breaking of me as an NUFC supporter as I feel this time we would not come straight back up.

  • 77 ToonMauritius // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    hi lads
    OUT – Cisse & Shola
    IN – Benteke & Lukaku
    what do you think

  • 78 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Ketsbia

    Apologies for failing to reply to your earlier post regarding Anita.Feel you are a little premature in saying he is a great signing as in my view he would not be in our first choice side when everyone is back.
    The fact that he may be able to play as a full back may be useful but we have a few players already at the club who can do that.

    Thank you for the post and joining in the debate.

  • 79 ash1001 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    I do not know what other folks think, but I am sick of hearing Shola spout on to the press, his latest comment -
    “But the fans have to keep believing because, as players, we are working as hard as we can. We are just not getting the rub of the green and that happens when you are down there”.
    Just love the bit ‘working as hard as we can’, Shola are you in dreamland, sorry but I think at 73 I could work harder than you. Love the bit where we have to support the manager as well, like hell we have, he’s one of the major causes for where we are at present.

  • 80 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth
    dont get me wrong if we signed him after me slatin him he would probably bang them in lol thats what usually happens im not sure who id like to see someone like aspas from celta vigo good goal scorin record meant to be available for about 8m what u think

  • 81 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    ian

    we get behind the team every match, but we’re not stupid and once the manager starts slating the fans who basically pay his wages, it’s time for him to go.

    Nice to see over on Mag 70% out of 5000 want him gone.

    All the excuses from Pardew is really the last refuge of a man who’s been found out and has nowhere left to run.
    He is the architect of his and our team’s downfall with his woeful tactics.

  • 82 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    GT89 – Blanc would be an awful fit at newcastle! Has a habit of falling out with french players of african descent – might be worth noting that the only french player we have who doesn’t have dual nationality is Debuchy with Marveaux, Cabaye, Obertan, HBA, Ben Arfa etc all coming from dual nationalities!
    Hes also not the strongest of characters, in the summer he chose big names over better players in the euros and france flopped because of it, to keep Nasri, Malouda etc in the team was farcical! Hes also quite defensive minded and not that tactially astute!

  • 83 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Ian
    Agree that booing does no one at the club any good when morale is in the bin, but for the first time i do fear for pardew think if we dont get a result vs villa it could be his last game
    As for colo the situation is probably affecting the team more than signings etc how can you have a captain who wants out? For me the armband should of been taken the minute he wanted out and he should of had it laid down straight, if they cant pay a fee your not going anywhere!

  • 84 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    I’ve got faith in most of the players.

    There are a few I have serious doubts about and Pardew keeps playing them for 90 mins and to cap that he plays some out of position too.

    Can Pardew pull things around? Sure but only if he can push Willo, Jonas and Ameobi onto the bench because we have at least three new first team players.
    He needs not to lose at Villa too.

  • 85 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    @toonarmydownsouth

    I expect Colo will be told that (tomorrow?).
    Why should he walk away to another club on a free?

  • 86 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    also if we get Blanc you can kiss good bye to HBA, Blanc is a strong disciplinarian, HBA gets away with outbursts and shocking behaviour on the training ground, hence why he’s getting on well at newcastle when he couldn’t at marseille, lyon and with france! With Blanc if you cross him once you don’t get a second chance and im afraid benny already did this when he criticised his tactics and substitutes (where we heard that before?) at euro 2012 infront of all the players and coaching staff

  • 87 LGFUAD21 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Toonarydownsouth
    i just dont rate hooper i live in scotland so i see him everyweek and he does’nt exactly play against top opposition i could play in the spl and bang in 30 goals i just think we could sign better

    Disagree. Hopers biggest attribute is his positional sense and mobility. He’s always on his feet which is always going to help you bag a few goals in most leagues. It’s why lampard and Nolan bag em. If we aren’t getting a remy type hooper would be a good move for 2 up top.

  • 88 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Toon mauritius
    Why do people think we can get lukaku? Your talking andy carroll money for that lad

    Iggy
    Yeah seen bits of aspas but given our record of spanish signings im always worried about players from la liga!!
    Personally think we should be scouting germany more some cracking players there!
    But would like the rumour about seim de jong to be true could see him being a bit of a michu for us!

  • 89 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    gt 89

    how good would that be. Just want to feel good about my team again and it aint going to happen with pardew.

  • 90 APBWA // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Team for Villa

    Krul
    Debuchy-Taylor-Coloccini-Santon
    Anita-Cabaye-Marveaux
    Obertan-Cisse-Gutierrez

    We desperately need a couple of attacking options, probably a wide midfielder and a striker. Campbell deserves more of a chance than Ranger, and probably Shola. Desperately need Ben Arfa back, wingers weakest points in this team by a country mile.

  • 91 LGFUAD21 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Shola did well for 70 mins yesterday so don’t see the criticism.

    It was his an jonas’ discipline on the flanks that allowed our midfield to boss in the first half.

    That said when hba is back, if we play Cabaye in an advanced role ( he linked well with cisse) and hba on the wing leaving Marveaux down the centre I think we will start seeing some performances.

  • 92 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    jay

    would a disciplinarian be such a bad thing. sick of the likes of ranger doing what the hell he likes

  • 93 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Rotonda- I have been listening to 606. The guy who interviewed Pardew for MOD corrected a caller from Durham on the very point. He said that Pardew had not criticised the fans but had pointed out that it did impact on the players at the time.

  • 94 north_country_boy // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Still not sure if Mbiwa is the answer at the back – we need a big prescence like Douglas, Hangelaand or Kompamy type player and also a Sissokho or Diame type in midfield as we look so weak through the middle

  • 95 dubzy // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    FLURRY OF BETS PUT ON ALAN PARDEW 1/2 ON

    http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials/next-premier-league-manager-to-leave

  • 96 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    LGFUAD21
    Yeah agree mate think shola fone alright yesterday started very well and was let done by cisses movement really

  • 97 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Sacking of Pardew would effect any in comings. Sorry but not the right time to sack him. Just my opinion..tin hat on!

  • 98 Grafton83 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/332/8417962/pressure-on-pardew?

    Interesting, some people clearly convinced he’s about to go.

  • 99 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    jay

    blanc’s record is fantastic in french football.
    unlike pardew he really is a winner and had a great run with the national team as well. Nasri is an a..e and Benny has his moments

  • 100 BelfastMagpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    I stuck £5 on it last night at 7/1. It’s now 1/2. Wouldn’t read anything into that like. A couple of hundred quid & they slash the odds straight away. It wouldn’t suprise me if it was somebody from a betting firm that started the rumour. lol

  • 101 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    78

    pardew has little to no say in incomings

  • 102 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Sorry for bursting people’s bubbles but……….

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder

    A lot of people asking me about Alan Pardew’s future. From what I’ve been told #nufc have no intention of changing manager.

  • 103 Marty-Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    I agree that Santon should be on the wing and actually Jonas could be used at LB if the one brought in isn’t ready.
    Santon gives us so much goin forward but defensively is lacking and ousting us at times,Jonas is useless goin forward but ok defensively.

  • 104 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    I would love to be a fly on Ashley’s wall right now. He must really be wondering about his brilliant plan to make us another Arsenal.
    Mike: Howay Dekka, what do you think after yesterday’s performance? Are we actually in danger of being relegated?
    Dekka: Mike, I really don’t think so. We’re being very clever on the transfer front and Pardew is a top class manager. All our players are brilliant. Just look at Shola. He already has a goal for us this season! I was brilliant to extend his contract. And then there’s the brilliant play of Jonas whose contract I also extended. Relax Mike we’re going to be on easy street next season.
    Mike: Well that’s certainly good to hear Dekka because I could have sworn we lost to Reading at home yesterday.

  • 105 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Makes me laugh that people actually think that Alan Pardew will be sacked and that too during a transfer window

  • 106 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    1978
    Completly agree sacking a manager would put off players signing

  • 107 dubzy // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    ITS NOT ABOUT BEING SACKED ITS ABOUT HIM GOING . 1/2 ON MAYB HE PUT THE BET ON HIM SELF .LOL

  • 108 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    Geordie Two jonas was playing some great football when he goy his new contract tbf just like colo was

  • 109 Robby Bobson // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    The frustrating thing about yesterday was how well we played in the first half, we showed we are a different class to them, come out second half and just didnt turn up!

    Sorry blanc as manager? Did you not watch the euros and the inept attacking displays by france with ribery menez benzema hatem valbeuna….

  • 110 toonluvva // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    I just wish I could be as positive as you are Ed.
    Everything is going pear shaped for us at the moment, has someone ran over a number of black cats at St James’ Park recently?

  • 111 9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    Time to get real, gents:
    NUFC are in relegation form, no doubt about it. All the fans who pin the blame on the manager would undoubtedly have a point, if it wasn’t for the fact this is the same manager whgo managed us to 5th place (incredibly) last year, entirely ignored by the vast majority now calling for his head. So what is the reality:
    1) He isn’t getting sacked (nor resigning) so all talk of Blanc etc etc is a waste of words
    2) We are bound to get relegated under him if our current form doesn’t improve
    3) Will our currrent form improve? These are the relevant considerations:
    Cabaye
    Ben Arfa
    Debuchy
    Yanga-Mbiwa
    Colo
    S Taylor
    Ba’s relacement

    I haven’t a clue what the future holds for these guys between now and the end of the season, except for Debuchy, a definite plus, but if any or most of the above leave/don’t arrive/ get /remained injured, we’ve had it. If most of the above stay/keep/get fit/ arrive, we’re in no danger.

    I don’t believe anybody on earth currently knows how these imponderables will work out, but, to repeat, the manager isn’t an imponderable.

  • 112 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Toon Mauritius

    Do you not feel these two players are very similar in style?

    In any event no chance Villa will sell their main striker to relegation rivals and the price of the Chelsea striker Lukaku will be way out of our price range.

  • 113 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    I agree tads @108 but would you keep playing him now? And why on earth did we extend Shola’s contract? It shows no ambition. He’s nice and cheap that’s why. But he is useless most of the time. We can no longer afford to play him but we have nobody else thanks to keeping Ranger and Xisco around but getting rid of Best. Very frustrating and shows rat boy is clueless.

  • 114 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Blanc’s record really does speak for itself!

    Bordeaux France 8 June 2007 – 16 May 2010 P150 W90 D28 L32 Win Rate= 60% F248 A153 +95
    France France 2 July 2010 – 30 June 2012 P27 W16 D7 L4 Win Rate= 59.26% F41 A16 +25

    Total

    177

    106

    35

    36

    59.89

    289

    169

    +120

  • 115 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    disciplinarian would be good! But i’ve heard the club have very double standards when disciplining certain players but turning a blind eye to others! Be careful what you wish for and its pretty well known that the model pro’s at the club are Shola, Jonas, Willo and Perch! Blanc had a good workman like squad at bordeaux with no big personalities and he failed as french manager as soon as he had to deal with outspoken players

  • 116 alf // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Pardews gone will be annouced tomorrow!

  • 117 dubzy // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Magpies-till-d3ath

    PARDEWS WIN RATE WIV NUFC IS 36%

    SHOCKING HOW IS HE A PREMIER MANAGER

  • 118 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Looking at Jonas in closeups yesterday, he is definitely developing a gut and has lost a lot of pace. He must be taken out of the side. We’re not exactly pacy as it is but he is getting ridiculous. We have no alternative to Cisse and Shola right now either. Teams will know they can focus on Cisse and he walks (or runs) right into their offside traps.

  • 119 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Dubzy- I know. His record last year in the league was 50%, so we must have played VERY Badly in the 10-11 season and this season for it to drop so dramatically!

  • 120 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Longtime reader new poster

    There is still hope but we’ll just have to accept 12-15 place is a ‘successful’ season. I had us 6-8th in August so that is a lot of back tracking.
    How about:

    1. Haidara or other LB push Santon to ALM/LW – develop him like Bale – not sure he’s got Gareth’s blistering pace though. If he plays LW then play Marv as ALM ( but playing more centrally)
    2. Buy any UK based ST of Charlie Austin, Danny Graham, Hooper. All are better than Strolla. They’d do until we replace Ba with a nippy left sided striker/winger
    3. Any two quality CBs (one if Colo stays til summer)
    4. We seriously need additional creativity for when Yo is injured – half decent BTB would be my pick
    5/ Regardless of final position this season we need the 2-3 quality players we missed out on last season to show enough ambition to keep Benny and Yo at the club for next year.

    Like all those on here saying how arrogant Pardew is, and how he NEVER admits his mistakes I was totally gobsmacked when he came clean about messing up the sub with Marv. yesterday TBH that takes guts.

  • 121 Magpies-till-d3ath // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    alf- as if anyone believes you!

  • 122 Quilli // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    What about that young lad Guidetti? Chelsea bought him then loaned him straight out didnt they? isnt he a worth a punt?

  • 123 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Who the hell would we bring in to replace Pardew? Nobody in their right mind would work for toot and ploot!

  • 124 check the toastie // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Whilst Pardew is here Jonas is always in the team, that is reason enough to sack the man.

    It wasnt just the removal of Marv, which was bad enough, it was bringing Perch and then Bigi on for Cabaye also and then sticking Anita over on the right and then putting Shola up front, you couldnt have made that up.

    Our 3 best players all subbed for a variety of piss poor reasons, and yes there was f~~k all wrong with cabaye, indeed 10 seconds before he was subbed he had just broke into the box and shot wide. Mystifying but so so predictable, i predicted the ‘tactical’ reshuffle to lads sat next to me before it happened.

    Pathetic and please sack him.

    I would have anyone, Owen Coyle, Gareth Southgate and Glenn hoddle partnership, Ian Holloway, Malkay Mckay from Cardiff, Martinez,

  • 125 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    alf

    don’t get my hopes up

  • 126 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    reckon NUFC would have 1000′s of applicants! The board enhanced their reputation in the summer by not letting anyone leave and with the exception of Ba which was out of their hands look set to be doing the same this jan and even spending a bit of money!
    Pardew went from an out of work league 1 manager to Premier League manager of the year as NUFC boss, that won’t go unnoticed! Our results this season mean sacking pardew might be harsh, but its not as ludicrous as when they sacked Hughton! We have a great group of players here, with 2 or 3 additions and some tactical nouse we should be top 6, doubt we’d get a top manager from a top club but there will be a lot of managers that fancy a crack at a team as big as Newcastle!

  • 127 Quilli // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    sorry.. Man City loaned him out

  • 128 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    bobby robson

    disappointed on 3 matches at a major tournament but had had a fantastic run with the national team before the finals and look at his domestic record

  • 129 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    We price our selves out of buying good players ..Sturridge would have been a good deal with Chelsea and Demba ba ..but there’s no joined up thinking ..thing is though Liverpool would beat any wages we could offer ,,and that ties us down to a certain level when it comes to buying players.

    Saying all that , we can offer £60 k per week and that should easily see us Just behind the usual supect’s at the top.. scrapping with spurs for 5th place…and if we get really Lucky Arsenal for 4th…

    We will also always always loose players to the top six .and all because we wont pay the wages they can..5th or 6th place is not to be sniffed at ..we have had some real bad luck with fixtures over Christmas …wonder if the FA prem ‘s computer is biased towards Man U etc ..they always seem to have home Games and easy games over Christmas and new year ..but that’s another story. We have had no luck this season apart from the West Brom game.

    With the Support we have, and the players we have, it’s criminal that we are where we are …

    If Ashley could just up the wage a tad or offer a bonus scheme like Man u do then we might just get someplace and not sit as also rans

    Kevin Keegan knew where it was all at ..What a great man.

  • 130 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    I would swear that after we went 1-0 up and got into the second half Pardew decided to go defensive. So he brings on Perch and Bigi and quickly we let in 2 goals. Bring in a bench sitter and a teenager in a crucial game? Madness. We run out of gas so often in games it’s ridiculous. How often now have we been overtaken in second halfves? It’s becoming frighteningly predictable.

  • 131 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth
    i agree m8 de jong would be an immense signin thats the kind of calibre of players we need in and quick

  • 132 89Norcal // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    beIN sport reporting Mbiwa will sign for NUFC on Tuesday. Saw it from heneage on twitter. Arsenal apparently have not made a bid. No news on haidara.

    Bets on pardew getting the axe but do they even factor in who our owner is? :)

    As awful as Pards was Saturday, no decent manager would come here under MA and DL. Even if we tempted Rijkaard, talks would probably just break down because the board wont give the manager enough freedom

  • 133 BelfastMagpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    I would stick in a loan bid for that kid at Chelsea. Marin or whatever he’s called. Doesn’t seem to be getting many games at chelsea. Better option than any of our wingers at the minute.

  • 134 jimmysmith // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Brian McDermott, Reading’s manager, had warm words for his old friend. “Alan Pardew’s a fantastic manager,” he said. “He’s a great guy. Newcastle didn’t spend the money they could have done in the summer.”

    Opposing managers and pundits have been saying this for weeks and there’s surely a good deal of truth to it.

    Get him the players he’s needed and been denied so far and judge him at the end of the campaign. He deserves at least that after what was achieved last season.

  • 135 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    ian

    so shifting the blame for his lame tactics and poor subs on to the fans then.

    why the hell do you keep supporting this guy what is the attraction

  • 136 askar // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    1. Collo must stay and partner him with Mbiwa= international pairing.
    2. Sign a top striker : Gomis please or Gameiro!!
    3. HBA and Tiote back
    –> 15 games= 15 wins=67 points and here we go for europeans places.

  • 137 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    I think if he isn’t sacked by Tuesday that he’s here for the season.

    If he is we have to back him … at least until he makes his stupid substitutions.

  • 138 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Anita is better at ball retention than Tiote. I agree that we need a bit more physical presence in midfield and at the back. I see Mbiwa as a direct replacement for Coloccini. We need to sign Alderweireld to strengthen the squad. He is more physical than Mbiwa and they’d play well together. Sissoko is a must signing at £3m. We need two quality strikers (1 target man to replace Ba – Gomis?? Benteke?? and 1 falir striker – Zarate or Sulejmani). We could be in for Belhanda if the price is right.

    Selling Coloccini and signing Mbiwa is a sidewards step. We need a bit of presence at the back.

    Benteke and Zarate would be ideal signings, but Villa won’t sell Benteke.

  • 139 Robby Bobson // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Fair enough…to be honest i didnt no what he did before, just the fact the didnt tell benzema to stop drifting leaving noone in the box.

    Still not sure now is the time for a guy without any prem experience.

    Curbs would be the most likely choice i reckon, not the best but not alot out there. And martinez would be unreachabele reckon given whelan and ashleys history.

  • 140 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Jimmy

    we were beaten at home by the mighty reading 2nd bottom with the worst away record ever and e were virtually at full strength.

    every defeat is another excuse. what do you expect mcdermott to say, pardew gave him his break in management!!!!

  • 141 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    @askar

    Even I don’t think we’ll make Europe and I’ve been drinking and smoking weed all day … it helps with the pain … medicinal on prescription. Doc knows I support Newcastle.

  • 142 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    continental managers are used to not having a say other than tactically coaching the team, which was KK’s brief

  • 143 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Geordie Two— when he got rid of Fat Sam his people toured the fan pubs and called into the Strawberry. The view was that the decision had already been made and this merely served to confirm action to be taken.

  • 144 dubzy // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    http://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2013/01/blogs/newcastle-favourites-to-land-aston-villa-striker?

  • 145 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    a bit of discipline and fitter players would be a breath of fresh air

  • 146 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Top six financially.

  • 147 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Colo and Mbiwa might not work well together. We need a bit of height at the back. Alderweireld isn’t massive, but he’s big enough at 186cm.

  • 148 MacToon // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    News from NUFC that they are actively looking for a replacement manager, expect changes sometime in the next 18 months!

  • 149 nufcusa // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Alf – why spout rubbish. If you are ITK the what/who is your source?

  • 150 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Yes, Gameiro is another option.

  • 151 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    I can see the players looking forward to playing away rather than at home. Players just hear booing from home fans. Let’s create an atmosphere to inhibit the opposition teams. Like on European nights of old .

  • 152 alf // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Laurent blanc tipped to replace Pardew!

  • 153 jimmysmith // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    The first sub could be justified as he was trying to protect the desperately needed points, the second appeared galling but if he’s concerned about aggravating an injury to our best player then fair enough too.

    As for Jonas, he’s out of form but has had to play because we don’t have anyone better. A fully fit squad and a few more signings and I think you’ll see him rested.

  • 154 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    north_country _ boy

    I agree with your views that a commanding centre half and a powerful midfielder would provide a much more solid look about our team.

    I always fear that the opposition will run straight through our midfield and our inadequate defence causes concern especially from set pieces.

  • 155 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    All in all it’s a shocking state we’re in and there is plenty of blame to go around. Unbelievable to think this is a professional football club at the highest level in England. Amateur handling by a gang of wankers is more like it.

  • 156 Grafton83 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Tipped by who Alf, you?

  • 157 Mint // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Once Tiote gets back he’ll shore up our defense. especially after the national team games, he will miss the lads and have fire in his belly. Cracking lad!

  • 158 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Kets— Mbiwa is 6′ but is outstanding in the air and very quick and mobile. He starred on ESPN against Joey’s marseille yesterday. he played against Arsenal in CL in a DM role if i remember correctly. He’s light years better than Williamson in every respect. Just hope it happens.

  • 159 BelfastMagpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Comedy was never your strong point Mactoon…

    This Pardew sacked rumour was started by some Itk twatter account apparently. Biggest load of tosh then !

  • 160 Billythefish // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Now is the time for Ashley to be ruthless and show some ambition I would have Cappello

  • 161 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Alfred spouting unsubstantiated rubbish again.?

  • 162 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    As an owner ..If you really love your football club and had a 2 billion pound personal fortune and your Team came first in your heart above everything ..then would you not go out a buy the 4 players that we need ..and pay the going rate ?..Alderwieweldrustneversleeps…Sissohko, And a top top striker..to ensure at least goals to save us . and one other center back ..If you really cared about the area and your club would you not do that ? with the personal fortune you have ?

    Ashley wake up son , before we loose everything.

  • 163 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Wishful thinking for Blanc instead of Pardew. Don’t waste your hard earned on that.

    Excellent suggestion from Online – if we have a wage cap of £60k we could still makle ourselves more attractive with a decent bonus plan.

    I would also love to see Alderwereld at the Toon but that really is very unlikely. IMO we need a real vocal boss in the back four.

  • 164 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Yeah, I wanted us to replace Mbiwa in the summer as I thought Coloccini would’ve been leaving then. Mbiwa is definitely the right players that we should be going for, but Coloccini will be leaving.

    Selling Coloccini and Ba and signing Debuchy and Mbiwa isn’t strengthening. We need another 4 signings on top of that.

    If we only sign 1 striker, I’d like Xisco to be promoted up to third choice striker ahead of Shola, Campbell and Ranger. He deserves one final chance. I’d be furious if we just signed Debuchy, Mbiwa, Haidara and one striker and sold Ba and Colo.

  • 165 jimmysmith // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Rotunda, I recognise no manager will criticise another without having an agenda, but it’s not just McDermott saying this, it’s been the common view among managers and media and even the fans before we understandably started having this collective whitey.

  • 166 Tekkers29 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    I have a funny feeling that they will get the transfers done before they sack him. Thats if they are going to sack him which i can’t see how they won’t.

    this is his premier league stats

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/clubs/managers/profile.career.html/alan-pardew

  • 167 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    If Pardew is going to get the sack then why wait until tomorrow as someone has suggested.
    And if he is sacked I hope we have someone in by Tuesday so he has a week to work with the players. If not what is the use sacking Pardew if we a going to F**k about looking for another manager.

    I don’t think we are far off being a very good premiership team just needs a commanding centre back and someone up front.

  • 168 Scottiedog // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Pardew has to go to save this season. I know he has an Eight Year contract but I believe there is a performance clause in there (??) We need to get somebody in asap who can motivate the team and in my honest opinion I would love to see Paolo Di Canio. I know he has not managed a the top level but he has inspired Swindon and was even clearing the snow off the pitch on Friday night himself!!!! Pardew however seems to have come to the conclusion we are going to be relegated and is trying to create damage limitation.

  • 169 Robby Bobson // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    You know i said curbs but hes a guy whos never been sacked, saved whu during a relegation battle and has plenty of experience.

    He quit whu as the owners sold mccartney but hes been out of work for a long time so may jump at the chance.

    Personally i think sacking the manager now is terrible timing, but we could do alot worse than curbs.

  • 170 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Terrible choices always end in terrible results. We ended up with an owner who is a bargain bin money grubbing wanker. He brought in his rat faced pal who is a clueless wanker. They tried to show some intelligence and hired Keegan but he wasn’t a lying wanker so they had to let him go (and lose a lawsuit to prove what a bunch of wankers they really are). They brought in Pardew who is an ass kissing wanker so they gave him an 8 year contract. Now they have a mutual admiration society nearing the bottom of the table. Everything must be going according to plan then.

  • 171 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Might not even be seeling Colo, just giving him away….

    Absolute disgrace, just because daddy wants him for a club who can’t afford him doesn’t mean he can just be given to them for free.

    I actually want Sneijder, but don’t want to pay for transfer fee or wages, so I want him for free with Inter paying everything. That sorted yet?

  • 172 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    All Ashley’s manager choices have been mediocre to start with to say the least..Dont expect more than the likes of Curbishley or some other Knacker if it happens.

    He wont be looking at the likes of Hiddink or Koeman put it that way ..it will be a yes man .

    Pardew might be in danger if we don’t get a point at Villa .

  • 173 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Curbishley? I would rather have Pardew….

  • 174 Robby Bobson // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Me too..theres not alot better out there though

  • 175 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    I’m sick of talking about players coming in. Lets just hope we are able to have a good run in the league and do well in the Europa cup.

  • 176 89Norcal // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Jimmysmith #133

    That’s been the norm, most professionals see the errors of our board.

    Only problem is pardew has conclusively tarnished himself by making a massive tactical error in a must win game. Everyone makes mistakes but Alan could not afford one at this point.

    APs job was made unnecessarily hard by or lack of ambition, but at this point the team may benefit from his sacking IF we don’t get players thru the door.

    But I hope this doesn’t turn into the late season circus of our relegation season. Any manager would struggle with these injuries and this board but its at the point where AP is killing morale.

  • 177 nufcusa // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    His premier league record is not good. Mired defeats than wins and all three teams have conceded more than they have scored. Time to go.

  • 178 toonLYF // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    how long has alf been on this blog for?

    just a bit coincidental that the mackems call their new signing N’Diaye – Alf.

    I smell a mackem, and it smells like sweat, cheese and shame.

  • 179 89Norcal // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Scottie

    Di Canio? I would take any free manager over that fascist moron.

  • 180 Marty-Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Lol,
    Funny when ya hear Arsenal fans complaining,they’re saying they’re manager is clueless :-)
    They can do a swap with ours if they like

  • 181 Quilli // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    I personally would have Owen Coyle as a short term appointment if he went. Down to earth and plays decent football

  • 182 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    Colo ..Noises from San Lorenzo ..we want collo but we cant afford him …Or the wife’s ill.. Which one is it??

    ..Which excuse is the true one ? Sound’s like a bit of social engineering is in place to me ..

    And To use layman’s terms ..If he’s got some lass up the bunt then I would make him stay ..and clean the boots and the terraces in midweek ..

    Got no Sympathy for him and his 60 .60! thousandpoundsaweek. Its a F**ing joke man.

    Sixty thousand pounds every 7 days ..and people on here are sympathising with him ! get real man.

  • 183 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    People who suggest Di Canio are effectively suggesting a less stable, Mussolini sympathising, Balotelli.

  • 184 jimiley // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    We have to keep faith in Pardew and Big Mike to pull things around. I am sure they will. We will be mid table in May. Keep pulling for Alan.

  • 185 NUFC FOR SALE // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    I know its your job as a supporter to try and stay positive and back the team…….but

    I can’t believe people are saying once we get a few players in and Ben Arfa and Tiote back we’ll start climbing the league?????

    We have just played the easiest game we had left this season and got beat…..we didn’t draw, we got beat…at home….off Reading

    The players Pardew has had at his disposal over the last few weeks should have been more than enough to get results.

    As a manager he is probably the poorest tactician I have ever seen at Newcastle.

    I’m sick of hearing Pardews excuses and sick of him pointing the figure at the fans.

    The team is so disorganised its untrue.

    And how he can play Williamson is beyond me. Perch should have been given that centre back place a long time ago ahead of Williamson.

    to top if off he continues to play Jonas and anyone watching that game yesterday can see his legs have gone completely now. He looks for freekicks constantly because he can no longer get past people (if he ever did).

    We’re going down regardless of what happens now I’m afraid.

  • 186 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    I’m sick of talking about players coming in.

    THEN PLEASE STOP – its 90% of what you post

  • 187 snowdone // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Ed, I’m glad you’ve had a night’s sleep to reflect on your comments post game. I’ve been following the lads for over 50 years and it hurts when we are in the proverbial merde.
    However, we’re supposed to be building a project here. Sacking the manager now when we are investing in players makes no sense and will repeat the errors of the past.
    We can make another judgement of the board at the end of January.
    I disagree that Cabaye will go at the end of the season. If we stay up and investment has been made in players I feel that Cabaye will support the project. Hatem is slightly different, more volatile.

    A lot of ifs there, I know, but we need as fans to keep calm. We have been very understanding up until Saturday’s tactical stupidity. Let’s hope last year’s top manager finally learns some lessons and has some more personnel to work with.

    Long may we all run!

  • 188 thornus84 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Can someone please tell me why are we only looking at French players in the French league… There are far better players to look at in better leagues!!!

  • 189 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    ian @58 first of all – forget about new players coming in- iy dosnt matter! messie- ronaldo – RVP- any big name you want wont make a difference coz the simple truth is pardew would still park the bus at 1-0 he has no idea on what to do if plan a dosnt work, we need someone with the “knowhow” on how to set his team out to win a game- not to “not lose it” why should we be grateful to ash for him buying a player for HIS club?? It sounds like you were one of these fans who thanked ashley for buying our club and saving us from destruction -coz if superman hadnt turned up there would be no NUFC, sorry i dont buy that either. if ash dosnt want to buy anyone thats up to him, its his club.- also we have a team good enough to stay up, what we havnt got is a manager. i have faith in the team- maybe you should too

  • 190 Paul P // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    The bookies have stopped taking bets on pardew being sacked. Lets be honest, the bookies get it right 95% of the time. Me personally, what fat twat doesn’t realise is although the club is sound financially, if we go down again he will lose 50 million straight away. So as a business man and as a gambling man he should be stumping up money to make sure we stop up. But we know the reality. He won’t

  • 191 MacToon // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    I’m sick of talking about players coming in.

    #priceless

  • 192 NUFC FOR SALE // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Do people honestly still think that Colos wife is ill??????

    Surely everyone knows the true story now????

  • 193 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    The thing is you could get the best players in the world but you can’t alter pardew’s negative mindset or CV

    Unattached

    Blanc
    Di Matteo
    Rikjard
    Adkins

    Could be interested

    Jol
    Martinez
    Poyet
    Solksjaer

    Would love

    Laudrup

  • 194 Talentet // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    http://www.facebook.com/SackAlanPardew

  • 195 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Rotonda– I could write a thesis. I don’t buy the image you paint of Pardew both as a man and a manager. You should view people the way they treat other people as much as how they behave towards you.
    I just don’t see players not respecting him and the limited contact I have had both with him and players at away venues shows a mutual respect. He never criticises the players often mentioning them collectively. He is far more assured in talking to a small group of fans rather than being in front of the cameras, where he often appears nervous. He communicates far better to players I am told than he’s given credit for. I have seen managers who had lost it or never had it and he has not reached that point. You have to contemplate what would be gained by change. Pardew takes a lot of flack for MA and DL who let him down badly in the summer. He deserves the right to formulate his own team which hopefully we should be close too come February. Fundementally it’s a timing issue and not being convinced that it would not merely be change for change sake.. I retain confidence in him and am not persuaded by the largely mass hysteria.
    Fragile confidence in football can be dramatically overturned by a few good results. I do not contemplate relegation . Hopefully signings now contemplated will enable us to kick on next season playing 4-2-3-1 which Pardew spoke of last summer prior to being letdown. In the meantime I look at securing points and nothing else.

  • 196 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Online

    Who’s this Alderwerieldrustneversleeps guy ?
    Is he a Neil Young fan by chance ?

  • 197 Quilli // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    John Guidetti please

  • 198 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    I honestly can’t see Pardew being sacked. More chance of winning the lottery. It would be crazy to sack him now.

  • 199 Quilli // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Whatever happened to links to the Eric Pieters

  • 200 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    If because of self imposed financial restrictions as to our capital spending does anyone thing we might get a few loan players e.g Cahill,Ohara,Lescott,Richards.Obviously we would be lucky to get one of these but worth a try.Shy bairn gets no cake

    If the consensus of opinion is we need 4or5 players for the squad in addition to Debuchy perhaps a mixture of signings and loans can be the answer and be within the budget.We can also have a look at the loan players and if both parties like each other and we survive we could make the deals permanent.ED is right about 4th bottom being the aim and we have 15 games to achieve it.How many points will we need?

  • 201 Dannyo // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Pardew isn’t going anywhere in the near future.
    Don’t believe the betting companies or that troll alf.

  • 202 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    I hope we get dumped out of Europa by mentalists. It’s the last thing we need. More injuries and more fixtures when we can’t even get positive results in the few games we do have. Unless MA buys 6 new players….which is impossible. We have more chance of finding out Willo and shola are pardews love children

  • 203 Jamesthefirst // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    We are in this mess because the board never backed the manager. All the players he wanted to bring in are better than anyone on our bench. If he’d been backed it wouldn’t matter who he brought on, they’d be quality.

    We all know Marv sub was a mistake but at least he admitted it. Most managers would never admit that to the fans.

    Our bench yesterday was appalling for a team that finished 5th.

    The board are now clearly going after the players Pardew wanted in the summer. So there is no way they’d be bidding on all these players if they had plans to replace the manager.

    Pardew and the board will learn a lot of lessons from this season and I expect to see a very strong Newcastle in the premier league next season.

  • 204 No Plain Saylor // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Alright to a certain extent i think its admirable to stick with your manager and to back him unconditionally. But i think enough is enough anyone who still thinks pardew is the right man for the job is gone soft in the head. Im all for people having and being entitled to their own opinions, but there is no two ways about it, he’s not a premier league quality manager. When he took over how many of you thought he was a good appointment? And how many of you do now? He has been fired from every job he’s ever had. He was fired from league southampton a month before we took him on as manager. Southampon have come a long way since, their ahead of us ha. Pardew was in charge when west ham went on their worst run of defeats for 70 years. He took over charlton when they still had a chance of premier league survival, and brought them into the bottom three of the championship.. Fired from southampton for ‘low staff morale and fights with southampton chairman’. He’s nothing short of a disease. And I thought everyone knew this by now but il say it again.. pardew would only recieve one year compensation if fired from his position at any stage during his eight year contract. If we had given him a three year contract and fired him we’d have to pay him more than we actually do under the current structure. So its perfect. Look we should be a big club, he’s lost the players, most of us, and a hell of a lot of games. Managers get fired all the time when they dont deserve it, di matteo won chelsea their first champions league and got fired cos they were what third? Nigel Adkins brought Southampton from league one to the premiership and they are 15th, back to back promotions, made some great signings. Just two examples of managers hard done by. Pardew would not fall into this category. Win percentage of 36%. Never came back from 1-0 down to win a game in his entire time in charge here. Winless away from home since last May. We are on minus goals if you look at his record since he came here. Worst ever run in the premier league. 6 points out of last possible 42. Stability is the best thing in football when entrusted to the right manager, parsnip is not the right manager. I mean if any of you still want to keep pardew what exactly does a manager have to do to get fired? Rape one of the lads in the changing room? Shoot some fans? He needs to go, end of.

  • 205 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Jamesthefirst

    Great post.

  • 206 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    online

    that 2 billion is not liquid cash. it’s all tied up in assets

  • 207 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    to be honest we could get bye on the players we have , and finish a healthy17th, its not about players anymore, i dont care if we dont buy any one -our priority is a manager. yesterday we were first class in the first 45 – what happened ? our manager went to work- not for the first time yhis season and certainly wont be the last ( if he survives) forget about players for now , we have to concentrate on managing the ones we have – if that happens we will be fine.

  • 208 No Plain Saylor // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    Premier league record played 156, won 55, drew 38, lost 63. Scored 198, Conceded 229. 203 points, -31 goals diff. 35.0% win. Quality :/

  • 209 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Stuart- Your basic premise is wrong because if we don’t buy anyone of substance we will be relegated. Your comments are far to simplistic
    because it would imply that we secured a European place through playing negative football. The reason is purely because the manager has had increasingly little confidence in a defence containing Simpson and Williamson. Weaknesses have permeated through the side impacting on Tiote who has had to cover for leaks throughout the back four. You can’t just eradicate last seasons achievement. Aside from
    an increasing number of games and growing injuries we have little depth in the squad due to underperformance of the you ger players. Come February I anticipate a change in our fortunes. Time will tell as always.

  • 210 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    no plain saylor

    if we were a big club or at least acted like it, Pardew would not be manager

  • 211 RonVanDam // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Been thinking, pardew has been blaming most of his results on injuries. Lets say we get in 2-3 quality players before the end of the window, if we fail to win against Villa and Spurs – he should be replaced.

  • 212 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Newcastle fans ..as a collective Consciousness are usually correct when it comes to football matters..

    I really think when you get too close to something, right up and personal, you cant see what the problem is if there is one …Seems to be the case with Carver, Stone and Pardew who has the last word .. (I love Carver and Stone btw,,) sound’s Like a detective duo !

    Reading through some of the comments on here I suggest we know what’s what and where things are at and what situations need addressing ..and you know what, ..nothing seems to be done about it at the Club !

    If About 80% writing on here can see it ..why does the club drag its Heels ?. If we can see the problems …those in charge should see it before us ..It’s our club but they have the use of our money and decide what they do with it.

    Not buying at least 3 players in the summer was penny pinching at it’s worst. Disgraceful conscious decision.

  • 213 No Plain Saylor // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Hang on now @ Jamesthe first.
    Pardews personal signings, players he picked himself are as follows.. Obertan, Rob Elliot.
    Im pretty sure Graham Carr is to thank for the fantastic players we scout.
    Im also pretty sure the likes of Arry Redkrapp would have flown out to France today if he was our manager and brought back Yanga Mbiwa, Haidara and get the moves done. We will leave it to them to come over at some stage this week, leaving arsenal time to buy mbiwa, and roma a chance to take haidara.

  • 214 89Norcal // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    RVD

    I agree if we have a few more signings and get mostly everyone back and STILL scrape by then he should probably go

    We’ve been top of the injury table multiple times this season and probably have one of the thinnest squads to start with.

  • 215 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Your adamant that Pardew should leave. Who would replace him mate? An what difference would a new manager make?

  • 216 No Plain Saylor // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Rotonda heights,
    Thats it, 17th is the same to Mike Ashley as 7th. Once benny, santon, tiote, cabaye, timmy krul are all in the shop window, sell em, sign some huddersfield reserves, pocket the rest. Boom ;)

  • 217 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Stuart – sorry I missed your joke . My 4 year old nephew thought it was a reet good laugh.
    Your we don’t need to buy anyone line would get us relegated.

  • 218 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Plain Saylor

    Fantastic post but pardew amazingly still has some apologists and sycophants based on what I’m not sure, because as Pardew has amply demonstrated, he’s a bit special with his negative tactics.

    Moments of individual brilliance from Ba, Cisse and Benny and a healthy dose of good fortune and an injury to Raylor made Pardew finally have to play Benny, meant we did well in spite of Pardew, not because of him last season.

    Normal service has been resumed as his record shows from all his previous clubs and he has been found out again.

  • 219 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Yo YO

    Alderwieldweld is something I cannot spell ..I could learn to if he signed for us ..so iv promised mesel that ! I just stuck the rust thing on the end cause I wrote the weld thing on the end of his queer name …Im not saying he’s gay mind ..Ill get me coat yo yo …

  • 220 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    We were only missing 2 players from injury yesterday so he should of got them up for that 6 pointer give them no time on the ball and get at them all game and shola on the wing was a complete joke.

  • 221 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    To be fair, if we played without the horrible negativity and ridiculous subs (i.e. to our potential) then the squad we have should easily be good enough to get mid table.

    However, in the situation we are in new players are pretty much a must (JUST LIKE IN THE SUMMER!!!!! Anyway…) just so we don’t have to rely on utter waste like williamson. Because he is League 1/ Lower Championship quality. Seriously.

  • 222 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    No Plain

    Hang on … How many managers retire gracefully. being sacked is par for the job.
    I have yet to read a single blogger who supports Pardew unconditionally. I don’t. I support the club unconditionally and the players and manager who are temporary conditionally so let’s get that one straight.
    And I definitely do not support the club’s owner or his henchmen unconditionally

  • 223 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Well said No Plain Saylor @204. The same could be said of our owner/MD. They are a disease as well. And there is no ointment for this disease. Look what they have done to the club.

  • 224 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Online

    So you ARE a closet Neil Young fan :)
    Wonder if he follows the Toon ?

  • 225 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Rotunda Ashley sold a company and received 2 billion for it ..he states that he cant even spend the intrest on it in a day..

    THat 50 million cash he just spent last month on another casino would have got us out of the shite and Kept Demba BA …

    We are a national institution and should come first ..
    Newcastle United for god’s sake !!!!

    I don’t know the name of his Casino’s..

    He’ is keeping us at a certain level and risking our future
    That’s selfish man. Shelfish if you like …

  • 226 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    78

    I don’t know how many times i’ve put it down there are at least 4 decent managers out of work right ow who i think would jump at the chance.

    What ta new man could do is give the pace a massive lift. A bit like KK first time round. Suddenly no one wanted to leave, people were getting off the sick list and the rest was history.

    We are virtually back to full strength and do your really think teams like norwich, reading, Southampton, swansea, wba, stoke, villa, wigan and sunderland have better squads than us.

    Some mangers would kill to have a squad like ours, not bitch and moan about it all the time

    Pardew’s tactics and personality are killing us. Someone else might get the place rocking again.

  • 227 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    I think this whole thing is about Pardew and the way our squad is.

    We have a squad with several very good players, some good ones and the rest are just average to fill in the gaps.

    This is reflected in his tactics:

    “hoof ball away and hope Ben Arfa/ Ba/ Cabaye/ Cisse do good things”.
    That really is it. For the whole season, that’s it.

    So when you take those players out (and Cisse gets no service/ is on the right wing?!?!?! When he’s a total poacher) we’re left with:

    “hoof ball away and hope.”

  • 228 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Yo Yo

    I ain’t no closet Neil fan…There’s more to me than fan….

  • 229 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Dont forget the money hes put into rangers we could of had 2 players

  • 230 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    NPS

    Pardew has said on numerous occasions he doesn’t do the leg work for transfers. The reason it fails is cos of the Fwit who actually does do it Deka. He is the biggest goon of the top3

  • 231 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    online

    I didn’t know that. fair play

  • 232 No Plain Saylor // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Rotonda heights, :) Thanks mate.
    Yeah Benny didnt get much game time until november last season, i remember lookin at the line ups every week pulling my hair out! He was forced into playing him through injury your dead right. Ba was fantastic for us last season, and this one too.. Cisse hit the ground running for us last january. A quality player coming into a team high on confidence. But Pardew never could get the best out of the two of them. It was brilliance from the players last season that got us where we finished, and got Pardew his manager of the year. Which added to his arrogance and ego.. ha

  • 233 yo-yo // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Online

    for fan read fanatic ?

  • 234 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    jams the frst

    he couldn’t very well not admit it could he in front of 50000 people scratching their heads.

    However, it’s a hardly a one off, he has a moment of lunacy in almost every match.

  • 235 Marty-Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Ok he’s got a terrible history with many clubs but who do we get?
    Curbishley and the likes are the only type of manager that MA would go after and no decent manager would even touch us and work under the restrictions set here.
    With 45 points on offer we’ve gotta hope that we can get 15/18 to keep us safe IF we get some quality in.
    If we stay up then I think AP will be on his bike and mad Mike will try something different.
    This is already a season to forget……PPPPPP = perfect planning prevents p1ss poor performance ,this is exactly what they haven’t done at boardroom level and you’d think they’d have learned but No,so we’ve gotta hope we stay up and that the summer window we’ve learned something and keep our best players and get rid of Wollo,Jonas,Obertan

  • 236 JAMSHA // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    A source close to the French club said on
    Sunday that the 23-year-old defender
    was being lined up for a three-and-a-half
    year contract at St James’s Park, where
    he would join compatriots Yohan Cabaye,
    Hatem Ben Arfa and newly-signed
    Mathieu Debuchy..

    http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8596424

  • 237 RooneyToons // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Jamesthefirst well said sir

    You cant just sack a manager as soon as things go downhill… especially with the injuries we’ve had. The reason we’re in the bottom 5 is because we’ve had to field a team to that standard…

    Consistently having to play Williamson,Simpson, Ameobi (both), Perch,Ranger, Obertan has killed us this season
    I’m not saying that they dont do a job but the amount of games they’ve had to start is criminal.

    3 main problems bigger than Pardews short comings

    1) injuries
    2) The board
    3) Lack of form.. also has a lot to do with injuries. Tiote, Gutierrez, Colo, Cisse. You Can’t really say this is down to Pardew.

    Don’t get me wrong Pardew comes in forth but you don’t go from being Premiership manager of the year to favourite to be sacked for no reason

  • 238 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    ian @209 i am sorry to say mate but the football we played last year is not very different to how we play this year. we got lucky last year things went for us – that only last so long before you get found out . we have a decent team, but need a decent manager. in the papers today pardew talks about being in this position before and he can handle it , that is the truest comment he has said since he arrived here. he has been in this position before – with every club he has managed . we are next!!! he has to go

  • 239 mattnufc // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Terrible manager, even worse owner.
    I think that sums it up.

  • 240 Ian Magpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Having supported the club since the 70′s I can honestly say I have been through much worse than what we have today. I was at Derby when we lost 4-1 and stared oblivion in the face and the support that day was the best I have ever witnessed!!! The fans back then lifted the team and hand on heart i just dont see todays fans with anywhere near the same stumack for a fight and the balls thats needed when your clubs back is against the wall!!! Forget the politics……our great club NEEDS US!!!! Ashley and Pardew will some day be gone but until the we ALL must stick together. This is what makes us the best fans in the world! I for one am not going down without a fight!!!

  • 241 No Plain Saylor // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    @ Yo Yo, the managers who retire gracelfully are the ones who were good at their jobs! Nobodys askin pardew to retire, he can go and find another club and destroy them too once its not us i dont mind.
    Your right though being fired is part and parcel of the game, in the football world which has become more like a results based bsiness, that being said is it not a bit of a contradiction that pardew still has a job?
    I support the club unconditionally too, always will. And even the likes of williamson i dont think we should say hes sh1te i think we should say hes below the level this club would expect, he does try bless him but he has the turning speed of a cruise liner. I support anybody who wears the black and white, good or bad once they pull on that shirt and try their best. I believe even the best managers can have a slump, and a bit of bad fortune.. But that doesnt last this long.

    @GeordieTwo, Dead right. Only thing is its a damn sight easier to replace a manager than to fnd a new owner. MA provides financial stability i keep hearing that one, but we will never pogress the way things are. Sell quality, replace with potential, one in one out never strenghtening. Eating the profit, literally. Our most senior footballing man is the manager, and he’s an idiot. None of the board know anything about football they are all business man. That tells you we are a business, not a club.

  • 242 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    Ian

    you really have got to lose this patronising persona.

    How is it hysteria. 2 wins in 18 games would = the sack in any other club.

    Who cares if you’ve met him and thought he was a lovely guy. The stats overwhelming speak for them selves as well as the often publicised low morale of the staff he left at southampton

    Our team of last season minus ba but including debuchy should not lose at home to a recently promoted, vastly less resourced 2nd bottom team with a worse away record than even Pardew’s!!

  • 243 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    fek the lot of them

  • 244 ONLINE GUY // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Yo YO ..I am a musician.. and have been in Neil’s company.. rbtl…and regular contact with Nil’s and a lot of people you will know..

    IV just convinced myself reading some of this blog today that I’m flogging a dead… Horse . <<yo yo.. Club don't read this ….. It's good to have the conversation with Newcastle fans in England though…

    I'm going back to what I do best ,,That's being a Hippie and playing this Old Guitar.. 24/7, If they gonna let me.

    So …Online guy Is now in Semi-retirement and wont be getting into any more fight's on here until further notice ..

    Right ..Hippie mode….

  • 245 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    @stuartNo0 238… firstly i have to say i agree with you with the football played during this season and last being very similar, however i do need to ask you to point out the major difference between this seasons football and last seasons football even though it is very much the same…………………. ill give you a clue, tehre are 11 of them?????

  • 246 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    rooney toons

    you do if your name’s pardew and you’ve done it twice before.

    same old injury excuses -

    Our team of last season minus ba but including debuchy should not lose at home to a recently promoted, vastly less resourced 2nd bottom team with a worse away record than even Pardew’s!!

  • 247 Sir Braveheart // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    Something very strange has happened tonight. Theres been a sudden outbreak of common sense and reasonable thinking on this blog. JamesTheFirst, Rooneytoons, IanMagpie, I salute you for your reasoned statements. If only we had more of that and less “Sack AP bring in KK” nonsense we’ve been hearing.

  • 248 toonLYF // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    YES!

    Let’s all talk about Neil Young!

    …much better than depressing one another with these NUFC related discussions.

  • 249 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    A right twat for a managing director as well mattnufc @239.

  • 250 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Well said Ed. It’s times like these that separate true supporters from those of the fair weather variety. This on the whole is the same manager & team we had last season – they haven’t gone bad overnight. If ever the lads needed their ‘twelfth man’ it is now, so let’s unite and support them through thick & thin/ for better or worse / in sickness and in health……
    We as fans CAN make a difference !

  • 251 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    ian @ 217 why is it then , that a newcastle utd side managed by pardew only play for 45 mins -or untill they score, then a different newcastle take over and obviously end up getting beat. is that the players fault EVERY week- or perhaps has pardew something to do with that???? why dosnt pards say, just for once – go on lads try to get another, if he had said that yesterday and left his master tactic book at home and not used subs that your 4 year old nephew would even consider, we would not be here now talking about the stupid ideas of an inept clueless manager

  • 252 Novocastrian66 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Someone mentioned Owen Coyle as a replacement for Pardew. Good grief.

  • 253 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    You’re preaching to the choir No Plain Saylor @241 but say it again anyway!! Ahmen. If there’s one thing Ashley knows about as a bargain bin man it’s dross, so he went out and hired some for the club.

  • 254 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Rotonda- I am sorry you don’t like my bedside manner! I am always assured it’s a redeeming feature. My point on Pardew the man was because you have often sought to mention his past private life in your condemnation of him. To strengthen your argument you also seek to suggest that there is dissent in the camp which there clearly is not. The circumstances of the teams bad run coincided with a glut of injuries and the impact of not having obtained signings promised by the real villains. History will absolve me of blame.

  • 255 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Stuart – You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. The time to judge will be after anticipated signings and returning players from injuries.

  • 256 89Norcal // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Dont know why some of you put so much stock in post match press conferences.

  • 257 Rossy G // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Get a load of this…..think we should rule him out.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2265008/Erik-Pieters-slices-arm-open-punching-window-red-card-PSV-Eindhoven.html

  • 258 scout // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Hello all just signed up to the site, this is my first post. Some quality posts and very funny comments. I’m trying to remain confident but its difficult after watching the Brighton game, I sensed a real problem and that was the players attitude. No real leaders on the pitch, Brighton had a kid Liam Bridcutt who ran the show, how comfortable was he on the ball, ex chelsea. He would be ideal to sit in front of the back 4 for the rest of the season.

    Why can’t we get some wingers in who can get to the line and cross a ball, Gillespie was brilliant at whipping the ball in. Truth is we have been found out big time and we are so predictable.

    Zaha would be a top signing, but its looking like he’s off to warm the bench at a top 4 club, its a real shame.

  • 259 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Rotunda/Saylor,
    Are you really NUFC fans, or just post to bring an amount of negativity? By definition alone I guess you can’t consider yourselves as ‘supporters’ of the team.
    I don’ remember you being so negative last season, but I guess that’s because it is a lot easier this year.
    Look – we are ALL hurting badly, but we have to keep the faith. AP can NLT use what he has available -let’s reserve judgement until he can field a FIT strongest 11.
    Agreed?

  • 260 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    shire magpies @245 what i mean is / in certain areas of the pitch we havnt got the most talented of players – however i think the players we have would just be good enough to secure our status in the prem IF we had another manager, then in summer start recruiting for next season!!! is that what you were getting at????

  • 261 Jamesthefirst // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    The board are now buying the players Pardew wanted. A clear sign they are still behind him.

    The way we stop losing is simple and Pardew knows it too: replace Williamson. He tried to replace him in the summer but Llambarse started talking about purple zone players.

    Finally he is being backed to do just that with M’bia.

    As bad as we were in the second half yet again it was Williamson at fault for both goals. Worst centre back in the premier league right now by a country mile.

    No mater what Pardew’s tactics are, the minute we replace Williamson with a proper defender we will stop losing.

  • 262 Mister Tuff // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    Image of a Percy Parsnip supporter on his way to the match!

    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?start=240&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1024&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=zfEHazECfLqGIM:&imgrefurl=http://www.halloweencostumeideas.com/blind-referee-costume.html&docid=g1cigtKijZL_5M&imgurl=http://images.halloweencostumeideas.com/new-blind-referee-costume-zoom.jpg&w=1750&h=2500&ei=w1n8UN_gEo210QWo9YH4DA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=158&vpy=279&dur=18&hovh=268&hovw=188&tx=113&ty=276&sig=117701766020380306978&page=11&tbnh=145&tbnw=93&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:56,s:200,i:172

  • 263 89Norcal // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    jamesthefirst

    Yes you could make a strong case that Willo has cost us more than 10 pts. That attempted clearance on Le Fondres first goal was just too shocking for words.

    plz replace him ASAP

  • 264 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Ian toon,
    Now we’re flushing some real supporters out of the woodwork. I’m with you. Anyone else on the blog want to join the club?

  • 265 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Stuart- the final part. The. Reason is quite simple really. In the second half when tactically the manager wants to replenish the team he is unable to do so at the same level of efficiency because the bench is so poor. Try looking at the PL squads of 18 players selected yesterday and today. Our starting team at present contains Williamson
    and. Ameobi. Who should be nowhere near the team and the bench contains no game changers. We. have literally one of the weakest squads in the PL. Your right about over performing last season but this
    season. has seen a number of long term injuries impact on the squad strength. I am sure also that there will be a purge of the under 21 squad who are not of the right calibre.

  • 266 GeordieTwo // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    The Pardew debate is bound to go on and on because we are struggling so badly. I can’t see a quick end to that. Cisse is a big key in all this. If he can’t get it going we may be in too deep to rescue the season.

  • 267 Novocastrian66 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Remember69. Pardew messed up big style yesterday. We were cruising knocking the ball around, looking like we would increase our lead. He took off Marveaux a negative change and it took the wind from our sails. Don’t give me that fair weather fan bollocks either. No Newcastle supporter can be classed as fair weather. It’s either gale force 10 or hurricane following Newcastle.

  • 268 cum on my toon boys // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    aw hiya

  • 269 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    @ stuart 259, i have to admit that i dont feel changing our manager will solve it, just yet, i think that with the way things are at the minute it is just to much of a risk to start a fresh at this critical point of the season. i also feel that sir alex ferguson wouldnt have been able to do much with our “Backup players” granted we wouldnt be in this position but not far from it. and the injuries too. clean slate in the summer when there is enough time to gel bond, get to know eachother etc etc…

  • 270 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    not really it ll be too late by then

  • 271 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    remember69 – Happy to have you on board. Nothing personal but I have to go but safe in the knowledge that I am not a lone voice in the wilderness. Here’s hoping we get the signings saught.

  • 272 Mister Tuff // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    remember69 @263
    No thanks!

  • 273 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    ian those players are gradually coming back – the performences getting worse.by the time yhey are all back it will be too late, bye the way a lot of the players pards brought in are not yet good enough for the first team ,what were the reasons behind that?? surely players who would fill in with confidence , would be more effective are yhe players he bought not good enough???

  • 274 lesh // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Hey Online…. so, you’re convinced you that reading some of this blog today, you’re flogging a dead Horse?

    A Crazy one perhaps?

    Boom boom!!!! couldn’t resist it

    Just like the guy who was in court charged with extreme cruelty to an animal, necrophilia and bestiality after being arrested…….. flogging a dead horse!!

  • 275 RonVanDam // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Landrupp wont come unless MA offers him a insane wage packet.
    Blanc has a better chance of coming becoz of the french connection.
    I think a Italian, German or spanish coach will get us playing better football

  • 276 boater // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Jamesthefirst@261 – that is one breathtakingly simplistic view of the situation we find ourselves in. Not a fan of Willo but to suggest the replacement of one player will automatically put an end to the endemic, mental, tactical squad problems is naive – bordering on comical.

  • 277 Mister Tuff // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Ian Toon – I suspect you are up to your old tricks again of inventing a fake blogger to support your posts – ie “remember69″. you’ve previously done it with “carl”. You really do not need to do this, state your case honestly, debate it if need be but do not invent false support it devalues your argument and suggests uncertainty/waivering about what you say.

  • 278 check the toastie // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Here we go, the ‘im a better supporter than you brigade’, juvenile dicks.

    Pardew has been shite since he came, in actual fact i think at times this year we have played better than last, seems some people wouldnt say Pardew should go until we are bottom of the league just awaiting relegation, weird really how low do we really need to go.

    Defeat at Villa, followed by a home defeat to Chelski, then another smashing down at spurs, any chance people still blaming Ashley, making excuses for our shit manager. It beggers belief.

  • 279 nightfa11 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    remember69

    as proved so many times we dont need our strongers 11 to win..or at least play good football..good manager doesnt need strongest 11 to try to outwit the opponent.. problem is cos hes not a winner..hes a coward..thats why he always starts or changes our style to hoof ball football..”just kick it as far away from our half & cisse might score a wondergoal & ill lift my arm like a winner”..

    we have really good players..who should be where everton is.. but pardew just seeks for excusses.. its cold, my players are not good enough, youngsters are not good enough, cabaye is missing, etc..this guy never takes the blame..he did yesterday, but after fans booed him.. he always says how no player is bigger then the club, yet he accomodated everything to ba.. played striker as a winger, jonas always ahead of marveaux, always closing down, 1 dimensional & always plays shola & has sammy on the bench..why? he says youngers dont have the right attitude, but then has ranger & sammy who is the laziest player, we ran the show yea\sterday & he took our whole midfield off for hoof ball..like hes trying to sabotage us.. either that or hes a complete idiot with an iq of 41..

    its fair to say that pardew shouldnt be a manager of any club..let alone nufc.

  • 280 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    ian toon

    please explain to me why such a great man manager , a great motivator, can never get his team to win from a losing position,,

    i have watched reading do it 2 times this week,,,

    in over 2years now that has not been done,, where is the motivation ?

    can you tell me why we carnt score from corners? it must be well over 300 corners now

    are you a fan of football? nufc or pardew

    if you had kids, and every day you sent him to school and he was getting bullied,, would you do something or just let it happen

    in yesterdays game, would you have made a defensive sub first? would you even have brought marv at all?

    just because you can make 3 subs dosnt mean you have to,,,

    this isnt the first time he has made defensive subs first, infact, he does most of the time

    he made a statement to colo, we are both winners,, tell me how he is a winner if he gives up in nearly every match, it get to a point and he shuts up shop

    ars and man u have you seen how many goals they have scored in the last 10 mins of games,, then check it aginst us,,

    the man is a total loser,, and he is taking a whole city down with him

    ppl like you want to spare him cos he might come good

    i dont think your right in the head

  • 281 AshtreeKid // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    read through a few comments and disappointed that ppl on here who obviously werent at the game are critising fans for booing – they booed the Marveaux and Cabaye sub which I think everyone agrees were ridiculous and cost us the game and the end result.

  • 282 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Check,
    It’s not that some supporters feel they are better than others, but some want to help the team. Do you really believe that booing the team and remaining so negative really helps them?
    On your Pardew comments, I find it strangely amusing you disagree with the pros when they gave him manager of the year last season. I don’t consider myself an expert by any means, but have to believe the pros know more than you & I put together.
    I just review all the comments and ask yourself which of those will really help us get a result next week, and which will do nothing more than sap team confidence further.

  • 283 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Ashtree,
    So you are saying that the fans are right to boo AP for bringing off an injured player rather than risk losing him for a month – how exactly does the booing help the team (unless you are Reading…).
    I cannot comment on the Marveaux sub, but AP was not aware that Cabaye would get injured later.
    Sorry guys, I really don’t see the logic in slamming the manager just because things don’t go the way you want.

  • 284 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    scout@258 welcome.
    as you are probably aware . you have joined us at a critical and intense period in our season. please dont expect many logical replys to your comments at yhis period in time – replys yes- logical ones no. you will soon get to know the realists from the dreamers.good luck.

  • 285 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Mister Tough,
    I can assure you that I am not Ian, and have never met the guy. Just because you see ore than one guy out there wanting to try and lift the team means they are one in the same.

    Perhaps you are really Rotunda, or Catchy, or Toastie. – or even all 3!

  • 286 NUFC FOR SALE // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Biggest mistake Pardew is making is thinking he can shut up shop and see out a game.

    You can do this if you have the right players

    you CANNOT do this when you have Mike Williamson playing in your defence

    we need to attack as much as possible to keep the play away from Williamson, hes a total liability and I believe one of the main reasons we’re in this mess because Pardew believes he had no alternative

    Shola would make a better centre half, at least hes not scared to receive the ball

  • 287 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Novo,
    I hear you on the gale force 10 – good one mate! My point is that as fans the best we can do to help the team is to support them. We may not like what we see but booing isn’t going to help.
    I’m have to believe that AP took off Marveaux for some other reason than to aggrieved the fans – I am not the manager and am unable to determine his thought process. I will say that in his defense he has to deal with what he has available and after coming back from injury some players may not be 100%
    As with other fans I am crying in my beer right now, but have a burning desire to support our guys. With a couple of new faces, hopefully some new momentum and a boost in confidence we can get out of this predicament. Again, if we consider ourselves supporters we should all be doing something to help.

  • 288 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Nightfall,
    True you may not need your best 11, but the team you have out there need to fit, up to game speed and have the confidence to do the job. We all know the squad is not deep enough to cope with multiple injuries etc, and players are still,working their way back from injury (how long did it take Marveaux?)
    One the Everton front, I feel they too would struggle if they lost their entire midfield as we did for a period.
    I still get back to the fact that this is the same team we basically has last season, and if all are fit I would argue stronger once they are fit (other than Ba which was out of AP hands). Marveaux, Santon & Bigi have all played well this season, it’s now a matter of getting a players back to 100%, get some depth/competition for places and instill some confidence in the team. We, as supporters can at least help with that last bit.




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