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Yohan Cabaye Groin Injury Not Serious

10:26 am, Sunday, January 20th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 394 Comments

Yohan Cabaye looked great for Newcastle yesterday, before he had to be taken off after 74 minutes, but the fans didn’t like that – and it was only 3 minutes after Reading had equalized – and the substitution was greeted with boos from some of the Newcastle faithful.

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Yohan Cabaye – best player on the field yesterday

And Yohan had easily been Newcastle’s best player in the game, controlling the central midfield and scoring a wonderful go-ahead goal in the first half directly from a free kick – some skill we had been missing since Yohan became injured back in October.

Alan Pardew cited the booing as perhaps one reason our lads did even worse, as just three minutes later Adam Le Fondre got his and Reading’s second goal (all in a lousy six minutes), to get their first win on the road this season.

This is what the Newcastle manager said after the game:

“‘You could see the extra quality we had on the pitch with Cabaye, and at that point you would like to think we were away from them.”  “‘In the second half, we couldn’t get a grip on the game. Reading bossed that period, and as well as we defended at times, we gave away two sloppy goals.”

“We had to take Cabaye off because of an injury, and that caused an adverse reaction in the crowd, and the negativity spread to the team.”  “That’s where we are, we can’t get away from that. We need to be able to play through it.”

Newcastle committed the cardinal sin in a 6 pointer – and it’s conventional wisdom that is if you cannot win the game, then at least don’t lose it – but we did lose it, and Reading are now a measly 2 points behind Newcastle, having been in the bottom two all season.

We have to hope we can now keep Colo through the end of the season, and also bring in three or even four good players before the end of the transfer window, if we are to have a decent fighting chance of surviving in the Premier League this season, because this defeat is a very bad one.

And there’s even some good news this morning and Cabaye has not badly injured his groin again, and let’s hope he can line up against Aston Villa a week on Wednesday night – he makes a huge difference to the Newcastle side, as we all witnessed yesterday.

And we also need Steven Taylor back in place of Mike Williamson to shore up our very leaky defense – and somehow we need to get a string of wins asap.

A break of 10 days is both positive and negative – it gives the lads time to get their act together – especially in defense, but the fans have to put with this terrible defeat for 10 long days.

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394 responses so far ↓

  • 1 nufcburty // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Wasn’t even the substitutions that cost us, a premiership team SHOULD be able to make substitutions… It was the lack of depth and quality on our bench, all championship quality

  • 2 Grafton83 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Putting Shola on the wing
    Playing him and Jonas for 90 minutes
    Taking off Marv
    Trying to defend a 1 goal lead most the game.

    All nothing to do with squad depth.

  • 3 archaeomag // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    – it’s the curse of W@nga. . .

  • 4 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Burty- after the dust has settled I have to agree. I really think the heads of all drop when we bring on such sub standard players. They don’t seem to have the same fight and quality that the first teamers have. but saying that pardew dropped the ball by taking off marveaux first even before we had to bring cabaye off. That was the worst part, marveaux looked fine.

  • 5 Toonboy_84 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM


    Di canio is too mental. The bloke is a head case. I live in Oxford (Swindon towns rivals) so I get to see and read a lot about him.

    He’s constantly falling out with players, kicking stuff, talking crazy sh#t to the papers. He should be sectioned. Plus he’s now spent all their money.

    Be careful what you wish for. Would rather laurent blanc as my preference if pards goes.

  • 6 bri h // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Im one of those fans who backed pardew recentley but yesterday i saw a manager who feared a team with the worst away record in ENGLAND {yes its worse than ours}.we bossed the game in the first half and shouldve been 3 up .To come out second half and be so negative was scarey ..Marveaux was the link between midfield and attack and he replaced him for perch .

  • 7 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Aw grafton!! I was starting to think about giving pardew another chance but I read your post and realise how mad some of his decisions were. And now I want him out again!!

  • 8 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    team v Villa

    debs mbiwa saylor santon
    …………… cisse………….

    hopefully a new signing in midfield if not orangutan

  • 9 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Don’t know if anyone has read the sky sports news on pardews pain but there’s a few comments on there about seeing players out on the town after the game into the early hours. And someone said they saw cisse out at 3am morning of the game. No wonder he was stumbling around in an offside position all game. Some of our players are jokes if this is true.

  • 10 Sinner // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Seems like lyon are looking to loan out Gourcuff, seriously hope we’re looking to sign him.

  • 11 North Atlantic Magpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Shola is NEVER a starter. He can come on every now and then as a sub. He is way too lazy to start a game. When will Pardew get it?

  • 12 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    I seriously am doubting mbiwa after yesterday. Now it’s been made public I can’t see him only having us as bidders. I’m really doubting how many we will get through the door. I just wish we didn’t have Europa league in feb. we’re gonna suffer with injuries again.

  • 13 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Gutless and hopeless.

    Not just yesterday but most of the season.

    Bye Pards, Asley needs a new spin doctor.

    Had enough of Pardew’s ego and smarm.

  • 14 ToonDownSouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Some people seems to think that football is as simply as it is one the computer.

    In Pardew’s defence, bringing on Perch for Marveaux doesn’t necessarily mean he’s “going defensive”. It means that he can see we’re losing our grip on the game, and wants to bring on a player who will add more presence to the midfield and hopefully see us start to dominate again.

    I think tactics were poor yesterday as well – but I also think that people are so desperate to throw tantrums that their going ape over perfectly normal things.

  • 15 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM


    out of all the managers i listed,, they had been pretty good in the jobs before us
    kenny with blackburn
    ruud with chelsea
    souness liverpool and other clubs around europe
    KK did very well for us , got us close
    SBR did amazing all around the world
    SAM did a great job with bolton( not my kind of manager)

    your sticking up for a guy who has a worse record than our worst manager in the last 15 years, you want to give him time,, time is something we dont have

    your sayiing these managers will not come,, have you asked them?
    you will never know if you dont ask,, but what i do know is under pardew we have had more very poor games than any other team

    this season he has tried many different tactics, but all he has done is move the same players around into different positions, sometimes 3 time in a game

    jonas should not be on the pitch

    total miss use of our squad has got us here right now,

    he has blamed everyone and everything but he has not looked in the mirror yet, cos if he did he would see the reason why we are down there looking back at him

    last season,,
    please check how many games we lost conceding 3 or more goals,,

    it was all there for you to see last season,, but i bet you only looked at the table and seen 5th

  • 16 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Morning guys…A little calmer today, but still gutted about yesterday. Thanks the footballing gods that other results kind of went our way yesterday.

    Obviously I’ve been thinking about things and no surprises here, I’m still not in the Pardew out group.

    People know my feelings about some of the main issues at the club which I believe stem from the board. Not saying all is down to lack of incomings, but for me, it is a largish reason for the start of our issues this season. Things like options, rotation to keep players fresh, competition (Whilst Willo still not great yesterday, he was a lot better than normal – is this because Taylor is back and ready to take his place?!?!). Anyway, I do believe the board know they needed to back Alan earlier and will try to put that right this window. One other thing on transfers, as Pardew is receiving loads of criticism for backing the board up that we didn’t need any transfers so he’s equally to blame – Wrong imo. He said we needed new players, he thought they were coming and then they didn’t due to the board and/or selling clubs. Once the window is closed of course he is going to say what he said, but let’s not kid ourselves that he didn’t want more and didn’t tell the board that.

    So on to yesterday…

    Can anyone really say that we didn’t do well first half? The majority were on here talking about improvements etc etc. Yes Shola on the wing was bizarre, but he didn’t actually do that badly and the only other real option was Obertan…the man most of you would like to see us cut loose.

    One thing that was glaringly obvious is Cisses lack of form this season. Some will say it’s all down to being played RW. However, he did start the season up front with Ba in a 4-4-2. I know this as we’ve had to listen to people whinge on and on about Pardew being a dinosaur that sticks with 4-4-2. Cisse was moved out right as Ba was in form and was scoring and Cisse can’t seem to do the same. Perhaps he should have been dropped a while ago, but I imagine Pardew, like a lot of us, thought it a good idea he play in a less high pressure position to boost some confidence etc. Truth is though, he is not scoring and that’s a big issue for us when Shola is our only other recognised ST. How do you set up to attack, knowing your defense can crumble at any second and that your ST is struggling to find the back of the net?

    I said this after the Norwich game that Pardew generally tries to get some points playing defensively, builds some confidence and then pushes the team to play openly and with flair as to do that they need some confidence…which is clearly lacking within the squad.

    Pardew has come out I see and said the Marveaux sub was a mistake. We had lost control in the second half, we all saw that, so he probably felt he had to lose a flair player and between Marv and Cabaye there really was only one choice, what a p*ss*r Cabaye had to pull out 5 minutes later. I said yesterday I would have taken Guti off instead of Marv, but hey, these things do happen.

    Looking at that bench yesterday told the same story that we see most weeks. What are the game changing options? There aren’t any.

    I have read his comments about the booing yesterday and I will tread carefully here as I don’t mean to cause offense and I didn’t pay to go watch that game. I don’t think Pardew says it’s the fans fault we lost due to the booing, far from it. What he said is we had lost control in the second half. That was the starter right there. He made a sub to try and gain some control (rightly or wrongly) of the game that indicated he’s accepted there was a problem before the fans booed. Afterwards, let’s not kid ourselves, of course having the toon army booing the manager in that way will effect the players, not saying the fans were wrong, but it will have had an effect on the team and not just Pardew. That was all he said and I think people are jumping on it as him blaming the fans for yesterday. Imo, not the case.

    Anyway, let me know how you all feel about it today, I guess I will get a lot of criticism, but how about you try reasoning with people as I have no interest to sit here and have abuse hurled around the place.

  • 17 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    well if players are out on the pi55 di canio would make it known besides ashley aint sacking his bum chums and we are in deep shit

  • 18 nufcburty // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Yeah I agree his tactics were absurd… However it always goes back to the quality and depth of the squad. As a previously top 5 team, the likes of Nile Ranger shouldn’t even be in the academy. The youth squad should consist of the likes of Gale Bigi… not our bench. His decision to make substitutions should simply be natural and accepted by fans, as we should expect half decent players (not the best) to come on who can get the job done, (e.g. Perch). At the end of the day, they’re now trying to sign players which they should have done in the summer when they have to reputation to get them in. To politely conclude, Mike Ashely is a fat, greedy stingy nobhead and derek llambias is just he little bitch. NEVER HARDLY POST ON HERE BUT FEELS GOOD TO GET THAT OUT MY SYSTEM!

  • 19 popscott // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    What happened to getting them in for extra training on a Sunday morning after a performance like that, obviously not the case, seen jonas swanning his way through the airport at 4 this morning.

  • 20 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Yesterday’s loss will make it harder to sign quality players.
    They’ll all want relegation release clauses now.
    I can’t see that going down to well with Dastardly and Mutley. Will they risk an 8M transfer fee to see a player go on a free if we go down? I doubt it.

  • 21 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Apologies for the novel.

    Grafton….Bench wasn’t an issue? Do tell me who the creative replacement was then from the bench? The best creative option we had was Obertan, other than that, which isn’t really creative, we have hard working defensive minded players. That is an issue when you need to mix up the team on the pitch during a game imo.

  • 22 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM


    you think 2 wins in 18 is ok,, and that its just injuries and bad luck?

    i think you will find it was tactics for the first 15 games,, he started to get a few injuries, but played his best football during this time, and now his team is almost back to full, back to poor tactics

    was marv having that bad of a game? from what i read, shola and jonas where having worse ones,,
    50thousand could see it,, why couldnt pardew?

  • 23 WorJordi // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Imagine !
    If we were in the position we are in now but with a different manager in charge
    Would we even consider Pardew as a replacement?
    He took the reigns when CH was ousted and rode the ride prepared by CH
    Yes he had a good season last year but any other football club with a manager in this run of form would identify that he has lost the dressing room and he would have been gone.
    There is I think something a little more sinister in the retention of this man as our manager.
    We all love our club and want and crave success. I cannot see that happening in the next 7.5 years or however long he has got left.
    I am sad and disappointed that a businessman such as Ashley can employ the likes of DL and AP and not see what he is doing to his investment.
    May be he cant see the wood for the trees.

  • 24 Dennis Twice // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Cisse?? Shola?? Willy?? all out…Cisse is not wise enough.

  • 25 BelfastMagpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    I think Jonas is done, legs have gone in my opinion.
    I’ve never seen a premier league player knackered after 30 minutes in my puff. He’s either finished or he’s really really unfit.

  • 26 davybtoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Pardew has to go its that simple I’ve defended him but now I’ve had enough he’s to negative we won’t stay up if he’s in charge dosent matter who we sign

  • 27 Dennis Twice // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM




  • 28 ToonDownSouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:59 AM


    I’m pretty sure you read a completely different post to the one I wrote.

    Seriously dude. Stop thinking everyone in the world is against you.

    I can’t be bothered to say what I’ve told you 20 times now again.

  • 29 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    I assume with obertan running at them and getting the ball further into their half would have helped. I know he’s not great at defending but when he took marveaux off the last thing we should have done was sit back. We were scared of reading plain and simple. Man for man out team should have walked that game. 9 million cisse was nowhere near as threatening as 200k le fondre.

  • 30 hadthetshirt // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    This bloke is a joke.All these bloody excuses every week.He now blames the fans for booing being the reason we lost.Wake up pardew and smell the coffee.It’s you and your bloody whinging all the time that’s getting every one down.Not to mention your stupid substitutions and bad tactics.You take off a creative player yet leave your boy friends on the pitch 23 and Jonas.Get some cojones before it’s too late.Who on earth wants to come to us as an attacking player to be played out of position,or have a defender brought on in place of you.I don’t want to see him sacked till summer,but your the reason were in the mire.

  • 31 Santon03 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM


    about yesterday squad, is Reading squad better than ours? (remember we are at home yesterday)

  • 32 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Cabaye was not injured ,it was his first game back after a long lay off he was only ever going to play60mins
    Pardew the liar was simply trying to make up an excuse as to why the stupid 50000 at SJP yesterday didn’t understand
    There was no issue taking cabs off
    There was an issue taking marveux and leaving Cisse and Shola
    Everyone of the stupid nufcblog fans could see
    The action required
    Take Cisse off ,put Shola in the centre ,bring on biggy
    Take cabs off put on obertan leave marveux
    Reading would have been overrun in midfield

  • 33 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM


    it the in pardews defence bit,,

    he took one of our more creative players off,, he made a sacrifice,

    in time like this, against a team like reading, you try and make a stand, push them back, but pardew said, enough retreat, and took away all hope ov building good fast attacks

  • 34 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Santon 03
    The squad is not
    The team we had on at the end is not even a mid table championship side

  • 35 Santon03 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM


    With our current squad, entire squad not first 11. Where do you reckon we should be in the league?

  • 36 BelfastMagpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Davyb has joined the dark side too Haha

    Ibiza you’re on your own mate, probably best if you just drive the venga bus of a cliff…

  • 37 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    There’s no justification for losing at home to reading. pardews tactics are a joke. Alarm bells should have been ringing at Brighton. If parde needs his strongest squad week in week out to get results then he’s no manager. All teams have injuries and if he is just going to use that as an excuse then screw him. He blames everyone but himself. Over inflated ego and opinion of himself. Worst manager ever!!

  • 38 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    get me the bat phone

    we need a hero

  • 39 Santon03 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    yorky – I’m confused

  • 40 SydToon // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    The way I see it is Pardew’s tactics just dont match the squad we have
    Debuchy Colo Santon Cabaye Chiek Arfa Cisse Anita Marveaux can all keep it on the ground yet all we watch is Williamson taking an average touch then belting it long up to an isolated Cisse, lose possession and just hope our midfield win the ball back in order to set up any meaningful attack. Pardew must go as this squad needs a more continental coach to perform to its maximum!

  • 41 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    you have to remember also

    in the fa cup has had kicked out 2 years running by a championship side,
    we go out of the cup to early under him

    and in my opinion,, this is where we can win something

  • 42 colwell // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    According to Téléfoot Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa will sign in the next hours for Newcastle #nufc

  • 43 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    You are probably right
    Ruddy from holland would run him close
    But even joe f…kinnear was tactically stonger

  • 44 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    I just have no faith that Pardew can turn this around.

    I think he’s used all his motivational speeches up and everyone’s heard it before Alan.
    Unfortunate for Pardew that Ashley and Llambias pulled the rug from under him in the summer and he lost all the momentum and goodwill he’d built.

    Do we pray for survival with Pardew and give him another season next year?

    If you have to think about your answer for more than a second then he should probably go now.

  • 45 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Santon…Interested in debate today then? Not just wanting to try and blame those that see/saw some promise?

    To answer, no of course I don’t. Next question, do I think they played better than us over 90 minutes? Nope. Do I think they took two goals that shouldn’t have occurred? Yep. Do I think we should have taken more of our chances? Sure do.

    Listen, I am in no way saying Pardew is a great manager, never have and doubt I ever will. What I have said is that Pardew can do a job for us. He will need to be backed properly, as will any manager. Yes he is defensive, but so are many other managers, some even get listed as replacements on here for Pardew. I genuinly believe many are just seeing we’re in sh*t and are pointing where it’s easiest. Pardew isn’t faultless, don’t get me wrong, but there are bigger issues for me which need sorting first.

    I have said before that as and when or if the team turn on Pardew, whether it’s down to him or not, then he’d have to go. That isn’t what I’ve seen to date.

  • 46 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Belfast….Don’t say that. You’d miss me really x

  • 47 ToonDownSouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM


    The idea was clearly to bring Perch on, and push Cabaye forward into the #10 position – seeing as he was playing out of his skin.

    He made the change after there were a couple of incidents where the ball dropped outside our box from a Reading set piece, and there were multiple Reading players unmarked with a free shot on goal.

    Clearly Pardew needed that to stop, since the only threat Reading posed at that point was set pieces.

  • 48 SydToon // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    We shouldn’t have to pray for survival, this squad is capable of much better results then we have been achieving, Laurent Blanc would be an inspired appointment

  • 49 ToonDownSouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:15 AM


    We’ve gone out of the FA Cup early to rubbish teams every single year for a long long time now haha. That’s just part of Newcastle United’s DNA 😉

  • 50 sirtoongospel // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    I don’t want him sacked either. The alternatives are not good as Ashley had a bad reputation. I am gonna back him as much as possible at games. The players need us. I enjoy away games more these days as the atmosphere at home is often woeful. One missed pass and there are pricks who start moaning after 1 minute. Either support the team or stay away. Forums are great for venting steam, but don’t do it mid game as the players lack confidence as it is.

  • 51 BelfastMagpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Laurent Blanc is pie in the sky in my opinion…

    You’re best looking at the lower league managers & pick from there lol That’s were we’ll be looking for his replacement.

    Malkay Mckay & Tony Mowbary maybe Di Canio would probably be our best bet. Managers on low wages happy to step up a division. Thart will be Ashleys plan in my opinion.

  • 52 ToonDownSouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Think I’m taking a break from this blog for a while. The quality of comments has dropped considerably, to the point where anyone with a brain to think for themselves gets shouted down.

    I’m very unhappy with the current setup, and the only thing I see fixing things is if Pardew and all the coaches are replaced. But it will not happen, so I can’t be bothered to waste my time reading a load of people who think wishing death on managers and players, and calling them gay, is a productive way thing to do with your life.

    Ibiza – Enjoy living in that land of sunshine and rainbows (both in your state of mind and in reality! ). It would be nice if there were more people who didn’t view simply enjoying life as a bad thing!

  • 53 nufc1984 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    I feel a bit bad saying this but if we’re going to go down I hope Ashley blows a load on players this january and they all jump ship in championship and leave Ashley with a hell of a lot more lost than pards ever owed him in gambling debts. Would serve him right for sticking by him. And I hope the guilt of lost millions weighs on pards conscience for years to come. I hope it ruins Ashley. Can’t stand them. Sooner they realise this isn’t a gravy train they can all have a ride on the better. Dekka must love his role under ashley. He’s a freeloader and this is a fun game for them

  • 54 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:21 AM


    fair enough,, but why not jonas? then why anita ?
    very odd to me

    its obvious cabaye is not injured, he jogged off, so why did pardew make up lies to try and cover that,, whay not just say, hey this was the plan

    instead he went on the attack towards the fans, who could all see it was wrong,,

    and he has done this many times this season and last,,

    on the cups,, if he wanted to win over the fans , winning a cup is the way to go,,

    we went out to a mid table team in the campionship, and just to prove it was no fluke, poyet did it again

  • 55 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM


    its not the quality of the coments,

    its you have backed a loooooser, and dont want to hang around as you see the end is near,,

    bye bye

    you will be missed

  • 56 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM


    I want an attacking manager. Someone who sets the team out to win.
    Even if that’s a defensive, counter-attacking team away from home.
    It’s very clever going 1 up and then trying to run the clock down. Some teams learn to do it. With our defensive record this season he must know that we can’t do it.

    I think he always planned to take Marv and Cabaye off anyway. It’s the way he plays at 1-0.

  • 57 q8igeordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    We shoudnt have lost .. but I agree with ibiza … we cant get a better manager willing to work under ashley.. so I say .. lets support the team until we get relegated or find a suitable replacement .. knee jerk reactions wont get us anywhere .. off all people newcastle United fans should know that already

  • 58 Lee Dodd // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Put It This way Who Decided to Put Shola on The wing ??? Is pardew having a Nevouse breakdown and needs a rest ??? If Mike anshley was watching the game and Derek Lambias They must see what is going on hhere. They would NOt have let Chris Hughton Kevin Keegan or Even Our Beloved Bobby Robson Get that Farr . Freddie Shepperd sacked Sir Bobby . We have the Worst manager in years and They say totaly Nothing. if we had the Pie Makers from Blackburn we would be having a new manager ages ago. Thank God Cabaye is Going to be ok. It was good to see some passing on the floor yesterday not just the New Tesco Hoof Balll !!!!!!

  • 59 ToonDownSouth // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Holy hell catchy. Backed a loser? Did you read my comment? Is it tattooed onto your brain or something that I’m supporting Pardew? I’d love to see him gone, but it’s not going to happen, not in a million years.

  • 60 karasu // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Heard that there’s a bust up between Jol and Fulham. Time to whip out the chequebook and make a new signing. A 2 – 10 million signing that’ll improve our ENTIRE squad rather than just one area like Debuchy or the rumoured Mbiwa: Martin Jol.

    Honestly, any Tom, Dick or Harry would be better than F***dew at this stage.

  • 61 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    my most worrying moment for the toon is in fact that we are on the verge of relegation and for me and most of yous we will be relegated but you kno what that worry’s me the most-

    Smackems at home.

  • 62 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    I don’t think Ashley or del boy were at the game there seats were empty certainly in the second half ,so dot think they saw the catastrophy develop live
    May have been in a box I guess

  • 63 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM


    This crowd have been so patient with Pardew and this team.
    They moan at missed passes.

    We’ve been watching the same players make the same mistakes week in week out.

    Missed passes, out of position, off pace, running offside, not getting back from offside positions.

    2 wins in the last 18 matches and yesterday was the first sign of real dissent.
    I think the Toon Army have been tremendous in their support.

  • 64 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    It was obvious from the Gallowgate that bringing perch on for Marvo was to hold onto a 1-0 as Perch went straight into a flat back 5 which left a huge space in front of our defence for Reading to exploit.
    Oh for Shola and Gutrot please don’t start them against Villa – waste of space yesterday

  • 65 sirtoongospel // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Ibiza I agree completely. If we had won 4-1 reading couldn’t have complained. There were many positives but Santon cost us the game. His position for the equaliser shows he has learnt nothing from similar goals we have conceded. And for the winner he was awful in the air. Great going forward, shocking defensively. We need 3 defenders asap. Pardew made mistakes but he is no worse than our owner and our squad. We have great players but not enough of them. We have some shockers too.

  • 66 spitfire_ // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Of course is not serious just because there is no injury. It’s just one clown who fcuked up the subs.

  • 67 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Players to bring in – we need a fighter someone like a Nolan, Terry a someone who can organise maybe shout at a few players -cos we lack that kind of player

  • 68 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM


    Hopefully they are in France showing our new signings their Playstation skills.

  • 69 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    has any heard of that young LB we where supposed to be getting, it’s been quite about his transfer.

  • 70 outsidethebox // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    where do we go from here
    perch taylor collo /mabou anita

    debussy cabaye marv santon

    ranger/? cisse..

    like to see santon wing back as he is better than gutti at getting to bye line same for debussy leaving perch and anita to cover …have put ranger up front as he will chase about putting defenders under pressure …cisse will score unlucky with chances yesterday ….

  • 71 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM


    2 wins in 18,,
    and we didnt win yesterday
    so saying if we won 4-1 this would nt have happend is just plain stupid

    but i could say if we had messi, he would have scored 10 and we would win the league

    it is no stupid than what your saying

  • 72 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    We needed a Barton or Nolan yesterday.

    No doubt the dressing room is an easier place for Pardew now, but we have no guts in the team. No terriers.

  • 73 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Sensing an even bigger turn in attitude towards Pardew than expected. If he stays he had to talk to the board and get bodies over the line. 2 players are a must but more are needed, we are carrying deadwood again as well. If he cannot get the board to spend than nobody can and perhaps a manager with better motivational skills should come in. Trouble is who would come now? Who is available? Who could put up with Ashley? Not many i feel. Pardew is just an old fashioned manager, we’ve signed champions league player to our credit so a manager with European experience or a foreign manager would be better.

    Many fans are unhappy with marveaux being subbed but also anita was questionable when shola and Jonas did so little during the game. We finished the game with the likes of: shola, Jonas, perch, bigi, obertan and Williamson in the team. All fringe players with not enough quality. Shola should have been off for obertan, Anita should have stayed on and Guti should have gone off, he constantly gave the ball away trying to win free kicks.

    What’s the deal with a striker on the wing? They are wingers and have no attributes similar to a winger so why do it? He did it at west ham and now he is doing it here. Sign a winger ffs.

  • 74 BigKirky // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Can all of the angry crowd who vented their frustrations be wrong in judging that Marveaux shouldn’t have come off? I don’t think so. What’s worrying is that our professional Premier League manager saw it differently… Very worrying.

  • 75 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    15 games left and after yesterday second half performance i can only see a few draws and no win at all

  • 76 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Rugby any1??????

  • 77 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Ibiza@ 16 — Spot on. I thought you were unlikely to bail out. I have had my say on the scenario of players coming back and astute signings and am bored with the repetition. Know is not the time to change the manager because the turmoil would see us relegated. You will not get criticism from me. I thought it was a well thought out, rational balanced critique. Inner tranquility and reason amidst the desolation and any clear thought. Pardew is dammed when he doesn’t speak out and dammed when he does.

  • 78 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Charlie – it really was! We’ve shown time after time we are incapable of holding a lead yet he set out to do so against a very poor side who had not won away. He certainly didn’t tell then to go out and grab another at half time to seal the game and his defensive subs sealed out fate.

  • 79 sirtoongospel // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Hatem’s better than Messi………

    I am talking about after one or two minutes in a game. And it’s been going on for years. They go to the game to moan. We have had good attendances and that’s been good, but of the 52,000 there are only 2 banks of supporters who are vocal in their support. There are sections of the crowd who get agitated straight away. Cabaye is superb, but if a pass goes astray an almighty groan goes out. It gets right on my tits.

  • 80 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    watching the sky

  • 81 Shot Bru // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Pardew can’t handle the pressure….which is causing him to make poor decisions and mistakes….once you start blaming the fans for negativity on the pitch it’s all over.

    Ranger’s outburst on twitter sounds like it has been paraphrased from dressing room talk after the game…if he isn’t fined by Pardew for his twitter outburst, this will confirm to me that Pardew agrees with Ranger’s comments…

    I don’t believe Pardew will be sacked until we are nearing Xmas next season when we are languishing in the bottom 6 of the championship!

  • 82 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Ian Toon

    your a tool lol

    come on,, how can it get worse

  • 83 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    We are all idiots all50000 of us
    Alan says so

  • 84 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    @Black and White with an army lol

    In our relegation season, we were just a goal from survival, we needed a win and couldn’t get it with Owen, Viduka and Martins.

    Our form is so much worse this time around.
    Thi isn’t relegation form this is relegation form like Mackem relegation form.

    We are easily the worst team in this league.

  • 85 Joe1987 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Does anyone know what this new lad, (fingers crossed) gets called? Is it ‘Yanga’ or ‘Mbiwa’. And how the hell do u pronounce Mbiwa? Tricky name to get a song started for him.

  • 86 sirtoongospel // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Catchy, you are thick as mince to be honest. On chances created we did enough to win the game. If the players don’t convert them then how is that Pards fault? He has made mistakes, every manager does. But the fact is we should have ha. The game wrapped up.

    I wouldn’t expect you to understand that though as you are like a broken record. And seriously, calling me stupid? Get a grip you grade A tosser.

  • 87 Black and White with an army lol // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    did any1 hear Pardew comments on twitter my mate got a reply twice of him and gotta say im very surprise its not all over the news.

    mate said; Pards you need to leave Newcastle
    Pards comment; f you

    mate said; your letting the fans and the club down by your tactics and managerial so called skills

    Pards comment; at the end of the day im still getting paid

  • 88 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    just like the m’bop of hanson

  • 89 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    You are correct we could have scored more in the first half
    You are wrong the substitutions lost us the game

  • 90 GeordieToon89 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Mmm Bee Ahh
    Mbiwa – silent ‘W’ I think

  • 91 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM


    C’mon he took his manager of the year awards when Cisse wasn’t missing.
    Now it’s not Pardew’s fault when we’re not scoring?

    Pardew’s negative substitutions were the reason we lost yesterday.

  • 92 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    ashleys 5 year plan to do as much damage to ncle and still try to get his misplaced money back end of

  • 93 Dannyo // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    It’s Yanga-Mbiwa on his kit.

  • 94 sirtoongospel // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Yorky, Pardew himself has admitted that the Marveaux change was the wrong one. The cabaye one was enforced.

    But seriously though, our bench is a pure shambles. We are desperate for new attacking players plus 2 or 3 defenders. It just won’t happen though.

  • 95 Santon03 // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM


    judging how you talked, you are a good man, intelligent man, you are mature adult who has gone many life experience.
    I hope I can share some with you and maybe your experience you could understand what I’m trying to say.
    When you see a person so successful in one year and then fail miserably the next year, what do you make of that? For me personally, he has become arrogant, complacent, think highly of himself and everything that has gone wrong wasn’t his fault.

    I don’t know about you, but I see this in pardew.
    An arrogant man is not the right man to get us out of trouble.
    I know that you are the kind of person who will give other a chance to take responsibility to correct his mistake and optimist that he has the capability, but I hope you can see the reality.

  • 96 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Spot on mate
    from the first minute of the second half we were a different team to the first half . McDermott sensed that the crowd sensed that we’re not stupid – that’s why he brought on another forward.
    Soi God knows what Pardew’s half time team talk was

  • 97 Sir Braveheart // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    We’ll get players in, we’ll pick up the wins we need and we’ll avoid relegation.

    If not I’ll go to our first game back in the championship wearing a mankini.

  • 98 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Sir everyone is missing the point it was not just taking marveux or cabs off it was leaving Shola and Cisse on and not getting 5 proper midfielders in the centre of the park to stop reading
    There is no excuse he had the options and messed up
    He is tactical crap and was exposed for what he is

  • 99 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    his talk was”were better than these we can do it” nope he just sat there and said “we doin great keep it up”

  • 100 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Catchy- Matey. When your over in February you could be watching a whole new team. No Williamson, Ameobi’s and you will not appreciate the lack of depth issue that we’ve had to endure. Could be a good time to watch winning football.

  • 101 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    @Sir Braveheart

    Foolish knight.
    Form says we go down.
    Not just recent form but form for three months.

  • 102 JTOONJ // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    I honestly think we could go down after watching us crumble yesterday.

  • 103 Santon03 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM


    One comment he made that struck me is when he said to Colo “we are winners” , that’s when I knew he is an arrogant person.

  • 104 Shot Bru // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Braveheart….8 points from a possible 42points since the beginning of November = Relegation.

  • 105 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    yorky @97, spot on with your comment there.

    i do have to only ever sooo slightly disagree though when you say he had the options there…. did he really??

    what gets me and i mean reeeeaaallly gets me is when you have 11 professionals who combined are earning god knows how many millions of pounds per year, not only need us, who have to scrimp and scrape week in week out just to pay their wages, but they also need us to not boo the otherwise they cannot kick a ball to somebody else or they magically loose their sight and cannot see the big white net thing at the other end of the green thing with the white lines on. come on guys you are chuffing grown men, in my line of work if im told im not doing something right it can ultimately cost lives therefore it motivates me to do it better the next time.

    So to sum up when they are playing all these backward styles of play and mislaid passes we need to clap them????.

  • 106 Billythefish // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    10 games in give Pardew time, 15 games no change we still backed him, injuries to key players. Having to play kids. No investment players wanting away. Captain wants out for whatever reason??? Losing players by not moving quick enough in the transfer window. We are a car crash of a club at the moment. If we don’t win against Villa something has to give. There’s something wrong at the club that goes a lot deeper than the manager. We need a lift and soon.

  • 107 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Sir brave hart – when is it enough for you? If we lose at villa? If we don’t make signings? Villa are looking better now and I’m not sure if you take much notice to fixtures but its Chelsea next at home, can you see us winning that? 15 games left Sir, still waiting for something different to Happen

  • 108 southerngeordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Slept on this during the night and have to say i still feel the same. With the exception of the Sunderland game, the performances this season have been largely poor and they are reflected in the results. Yes the board needs to hold its hands up as there failure in the summer played a large part in us being in this position but yesterday was inexcusable.

    Going into this run of games (Norwich, Reading & Villa) i said to myself a minimum of five points was needed regardless of who we have available and that has not changed. I said this a few times but despite the injuries, there is still a lot of quality available and we should be doing better. Yesterday we had nine international players on the pitch.

    A number of times this season various players have come out and said that when you are on a losing run it’s hard to get out of that but that brings home even more so the need for change. As a manager Pardew is tasked with motivating the players and getting their minds focused, that is not happening.

    In an ideal world, yes, Pardew does at least deserve until the end of the season especially after his achievements last year, but football isn’t an ideal world and we are at a point where ‘good’ or ‘improved’ performances are not acceptable – we need results and two wins in 18 is simply not good enough.

    We have ten days until the Villa game and after that we have a very tough February with games against Spurs and Chelsea. If Ashley is to act, it needs to be now. IMO the situation is that desperate that it might be too late after that.

  • 109 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    No matter who comes in if anybody we will never play great football with Pardew in charge he doesn’t know how too.when he subbed Perch for Marv was like going down to ten men as Perch contributed nothing

  • 110 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    imho its already too late

  • 111 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    why was saylor on the bench yesterday? if he was fit he should of started if not he shouldn’t of been on the bench. Percy’s first sub yesterday should of been saylor for williamson. if he wanted to defend a lead that is a no brainer for the first change. as for his changes they were crazy apart from cabs. A change of manager at this time of the season is not going to happen. look what happened when he did it last time, SHEARER took us down. We have to persavere with what we have got and hope come 1st feb we have 3-4 signings in and benny/cheick back. We will have enough quality in the squad for us to survive even with percy parsnip in charge sureley

  • 112 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    I said we needed 6 points from reading and villa and if we didnt pardews position had to come under consideration what worse is we lost to a team who hasnt won away all season and villa have only won 2 home games out of 24 i think to mr pardew cant motivate the players now and there not playin for him if we lose against villa he needs to go before its too l8t

  • 113 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Saylor was on the bench yesterday because he hasn’t played a game in months,you don’t throw a central defender who isn’t match fit into your first team straight away.

  • 114 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    We are going down
    Have a look at the fixtures
    I don’t think we can win any of our last five games
    We need a miracle

  • 115 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    mr mojo you dont put him on the bench if you are not prepared to use him

  • 116 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    He was prepared to use him,from the bench,but we didn’t need a defender on yestrday did we?

  • 117 Tommyy // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Of course we’re going to go down if we lose to Reading at home, unless something drastic is done. We should have seen improvement before the Chritmas break and we didn’t, and now it’s got worse having taken one point out of 2 games in which, If we are going to stay up, we needed at the very least 4.
    Good old Pardew, doing the same things every week and expecting a different result. Fool.

  • 118 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    We are showing relegation form. On a free fall at the moment. And knowing Pardew’s tactical nuances its worrying. 15 games left and i don’t know where the 20 more points are going to come from.

    the Villa game is a cup final for us. Lose that and i’m dead certain we’d be relegated. No way out.

  • 119 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    well taylor may have scored stopped la fondres handled goal and done a sight better than williamson

  • 120 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    I think taking Marveaux off yesterday was a mistake of the highest order by Pards and he will learn from that. But, i do not think sacking him is the answer. Has sacking managers done anything for this club in the past? Have we won anything from sacking managers? You can name all the managers you want but the fact remains that Ashley will not sack Pardew. Pardew is a yes man and does exactly as he is told so him leaving is almost non existent. The blame lies COMPLETELY with the board. How can we expect Pardew to do a job with a squad that is small to start with and a team that has had most of its best players injured for the majority of this seaso?. NUFC should have strengthened in the summer big time but we did not. We where an attractive club then, now we are relegation fodder. Ashley took a gamble and it has blew smoke right back u his fat ar2e. Now we are taking action, to little to late for me tbh. We might just avoid relegation provided we bring in Mbiwa who is a top top quality player buy the way AND 1 or 2 strikers. A nice sweetener for the supporters for all the sh1t we have put up with this season might be nice by bringing in Sein De Jong. Get them players in and we will stop in the EPL. Had we bought these players in the summer, we would probably be sitting in a nice healthy position. Gamble went wrong Ash…..sort it out!!

  • 121 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Each time i see our remaining fixtures i get very worried. Unless something drastic happens we don’t have much games left to pick up 3 points.

  • 122 robin // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    What we are seeing with Pardew is a Manager who is approaching the end of his tenure, the veiled criticism of the Fans showed a man under a lot of pressure, Football is a result driven business where owners of clubs do not hang about before they terminate a Managers contract the rewards for staying in the Premiership are far to high for personal relationships to withstand. I strongly believe Pardew will be relieved of his duties before the transfer window closes.

  • 123 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Won: 5
    Drew: 6
    Lost: 12

    STEVE KEAN (Blackburn)
    Won: 5
    Drew: 8
    Lost: 12
    % of points won: 30.7

    Pardew must go NOW, or welcome to the FIZZY POP for many MANY YEARS!!

  • 124 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    I was hoping to wake up and find Pardew had had the dignity to go or Ashley the sense to sack him.

    2 wins in 18 is half a season and has to be the worst losing streak in our history and yet some people are still defending Pardew taking off Marveaux with 25 mins to go to protect a 1-0 lead at home to the 2nd bottom club with the worst away record in all 4 divisions.

    It was suicidal. Who on earth would be that negative, defensive, cowardly and just plain stupid to invite that much pressure from a team chasing the game, when we were almost back to full strength ?? It just defies belief.

    1) Who starts with Jonas and Shola as wingers?
    2) Who plays Shola for 90 mins
    3) Who blames the fans when it’s his own idiocy.

    Arrogance and ignorance are a lethal combination and Pardew is sat front row and centre.

    Why is Ranger still employed?

    Once a manager and a player has a go at the fans they need to be removed quick smart.

  • 125 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    only way to get top class players in is paying silly money

  • 126 two steps forward one step back // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM


    gloating self righteous twat

  • 127 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    I have looked at it all ways and the best I can get is 36 points that needs a win at Aston villa
    36 will probably stay up
    But that thrashing at arsenal may still kill us

  • 128 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Pardew Out
    Pardew Out
    Pardew Out
    Pardew Out
    Pardew Out
    Pardew Out

  • 129 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Problem is Pardew won’t learn from taking off Marv he will do it time and time again.What manager tries to shut up shop with 30 mins to go against Reading who I don’t think had a shot on target upto then

  • 130 gfp13 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    I could be wrong about this but didn’t Laurent Blanc and Ben arfa have a fall out in the French set up? Just with people calling for Blanc this could be a concern if they haven’t settled their differences. But like I say I may be mistaken about the fall out

  • 131 Lee Dodd // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Basicly We Need a Majer Overhaul !!!!!!!!!! Sorry Alan your Not The Man To Take us Forward . Do the Decent Thing And resign and Take 12 Months wages. Ashley Get the Wallet out or its fizzy pop for us next season !!!! Cisse was a Lost Fish yesterday . Shola Well As much as we love him is a Super Sub as we all know !!!! Williamson Jeezzz how many times ..

  • 132 yorkshire_magpie // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Ok. Watched the game yesterday and I thought we were brilliant first half and second half we faded of abit. Cabaye was instrumental in all of our play. At one point in the game the link up play between cabaye and marveaux was a joy to watch until cabaye came off and then marveaux came off. Marveaux has shades of silva but for me he dosen’t get hold of the ball enough to make an impact. Remember we have only 3 cultured playes thats hba cabs and marv. If we can keep them fit and a few signings coming in we’ll survive.

  • 133 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM


    can only hope. he is dragging us to hell. west ham acted even later in the season to get rid of him and they just got away with it. I think he’s fatally lost the dressing room, jus tthe look on marveaux’s face said it all it all.

    Obertan is not every one’s cup of team but surely he should have been let loose against 34 year old Harte, not shola!!

  • 134 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Attractive 45 mins football, then a horrible destructive and negative 45 mins which sees us lose every time! Enough.
    Pardew Out!

  • 135 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM


    4 french players were in the dog house but not so much with blanc, more the FFF.

  • 136 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    clueless cockney scumbag mafiaoso the lot of them fcuk off and go to hell

  • 137 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Rotonda heights

    You complain that we started with Ameobi and Jonas. Who else could we play givin our injuries at this club? Did you see the bench yesterday? There was nobody on that bench that could do any better then Ameobi OR Jonas. Look, i am no fan of either of those players at all. But Pards has his hands tied because he has NOBODY else. The only mistake was that Pards should have played S.Taylor instead of Williamson. Obertan will never make an EPL player for as long as i live. Bigirimana is still raw. Sammy is also very inexperienced. Perch is a good squad player. That left us with Shola and Jonas to start.

  • 138 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Even Jon Anderson from Radio Newcastle couldn’t defend Pardews actions last night! That says it all for me, and if AP is in charge and sets the team up like he has all season, we’ll lose to Villa as well. Remember I think out of the remaining 15 matches we’ve got 10 away! We have NOT won a single match away ALL season and we LOST @ SJP to Reading! Enough is enough.
    Pardew Out! Pardew Out! Pardew Out!

  • 139 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM


    hit the nail on the head. Defensive negative 442 hoof ball or variations of it are in Pardew’s DNA.

    Yes good first half and on another day cisse could have had 3/4 goals, but 2nd half immediately reverts to type and puts down the shutters with 25 mins to go!!

    How shola started and stayed on for 90 mins defies belief

  • 140 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    If we survive this season, i think we need to sack Pardew and get a proper French coach with our like for dwelving into the french market.

    The french coach will have pulling factors to bring top players in as well.

  • 141 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    We can all have dreams of top managers that is simply not going to happen
    But what could happen is Nigel Adkins
    He could take training from Monday
    He has got more points with a poorer squad than pardew and he has respect from players
    Heis also tactically solid

  • 142 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    i) Play like we did first half
    ii) convert our chances
    iii) and a LARGE SLICE OF LUCK

    We have to win at least 5 games as many as we have won now and 2 of them will have to be away from home which we have not done all season

  • 143 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Harte is 35 yrs old with no pace and whilst Obertan is not the most effective he is at least an offensive player and he does have pace! Besides he managed to cross the ball across the by line at the emirates so “yes” he should have been on the field as a sub for either Cabaye or Marveaux. Its APs constant negativity that is surrounding the clubs and the players – he must GO!

  • 144 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    raymond domenech 1-5 with paddy power

  • 145 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    he sh1te but better than pardew and he is a yes man

  • 146 gfp13 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Cheers rotonda, I knew there was some sore of problem with the squad. Now that I hear Blanc wasn’t on the opposing side to Ben arfa. I’d like to see how he does with us but there aren’t many top managers out there that we could bring in. Possibly give Gary Neville a shout, his understanding of the game is incredible in my opinion but he is untested so it’s a risk. Gus poyet seems to play decent football with his teams but why would he leave Brighton for us

  • 147 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM


    are you seriously saying playing shola as a right winger ahead of obertan agaisn t a 34/35 year old left back was his only option. No problem jonas starting but he is not a winger.

    I can’t believe some people are still justifying this guy’s appalling record and approach. Even with injuries, are teams like norwich etc better equipped than us?

    The guys record is indefensible. If ever we needed Ashley to be ruthess it is now and I don’t mean a Hughes or JFK, but the are a few out of contract managers available who are in a different league to this clown.

  • 148 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Anita-Carr’s First Big Mistake

    The qualities needed for a top class defensive midfield player are normally a strong physical presence,good tackling ability and at least reasonable heading ability.Anita fails in all three categories.In addition he must have a leading role in defensive set pieces and unfortunately due to Anita’s lack of physicality yesterday saw him standing alone at the front of the penalty area a job any player could do.

    One attribute Anita does have is he can read the game reasonably well but this quality does not make up got those lacking.

    Some of the greatest players ever to wear the black and white stripes have been small but they have been forwards or attacking midfield often blessed with pace or exceptional ball skills and I am struggling to think of a tiny defensive midfield player from the past.

  • 149 Nufc-83 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Shola willo jonas and pardew deserve to be shot. Simples!!

  • 150 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM


    thing is pardew is tested and he’s a bigger risk give his previous!!

  • 151 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    anita’s a smashing player but like every one else is probably totally mystified by pardew’s tactics and what he is being asked to do.

  • 152 Dennis Twice // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Money talks…Ashley hoy!! Championship calls….

  • 153 Dennis Twice // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    ….sell Cisse crap!!!

  • 154 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    “for” should replace”got” in second paragraph

  • 155 Dennis Twice // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    …he“s reason why we lost yesterday.

  • 156 papattack // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    the biggest thing that winds me up about pardew is he is conning the fans. he knows they dont want 442 so he plays 4231 and just puts a striker out wide and the only player who could do a job out wide was ba and he’s gone so why do it?

    the team yesterday should have been


    subs: elliott shola fergy willo bigi jonas tavernier

    why play shola on the wing and jonas ahead of perch? perch played probably his best game against norwich.

    pardew just infuriates me with his selections and tactics. just play the players in form in their positions. its not fcking rocket science. our players are good enough to win games with the right team selection and motivation. we dont need all these over complicated tactics that pardew keeps using.

    ive supported him but im sorry to say he has to go.

  • 157 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    lucky les
    anita- carrs first big mistake?
    this guy is the only positive we can take out of the last three months. that comment is a total joke. sorry

  • 158 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Obertan and Ameobi offfer us nothing mate. Both as sh1te as each other. Pards only playing with what he has atm. All down to opinions though. Ameobi ain’t even CC standard. Obertan in first division standard but we have nobody else atm to give any any quality.

  • 159 newcben // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    We need to steal M’Villa or try and get another play maker like Menez. We only have Cabaye who can play that final ball in our club. 3 more players in is a must and still believe we can stay up…Pardews changes and tactics mean he has to go, if you look on paper we are about 7 places off where we should be even with injuries!!!
    And we need a striker who can finish Cisse is a calamity and I even said this last year, misses to many easy chances!


    I know ppl wont like this but I’d even take Bent

  • 160 papattack // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    another point cisse is still more than capable of being our main goal scorer as soon as pardew stops playing long balls. hes wasting our players who can actually play football.

    if we dont get rid of pardew we are going to lose all our players who like to pass, cabaye, ben arfa, anita etc because they are just going to get fed up.

  • 161 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Jesus christ would people calm down,Saylors not far away from the 1st team,Bennys back in 2-3wks,the team needs a boost and some good new signings will do that,if we can stay injury free i think we’ll be fine,we played some good football yesterday,you could say the substitutions cost us the game or you could say the chances we missed cost us the game,the reason he took Marv off is because Marv doesn’t track back very often when he loses the ball and when you have him and Cabaye in the team both going forward you could get caught going forward on the counter attack,at that stage in the game when your 1-0 up in a massive game what do you do?,he brought Perch on to sit in the midfield while the others go forward,completely backfired when Cabs got injured,you could say we shouldn’t be sitting back against Reading but we didn’t take our chances,Reading were putting us under a bit of pressure in the second half,it was what it was.Look at what’s going on around us in the league,Norwich are on the way down,Southampton looked like they were going in the right direction until they sacked Adkins and brought in a manager who doesn’t speak English and never managed in the premier league before,i think they are going to come back down the table.A few good signings and a bit of luck staying injury free i’m confident we’ll climb the table.

  • 162 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Have newcastle ever gone through a season without winning a away game- I cannot remember

  • 163 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    @lucky Les
    David McCreery springs to mind he was only aboy 5 6″ great dm

  • 164 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Sein De Jong should be a must. Never mind a summer move. We might not be in the EPL then. Mbiwa, Sein De Jong and 2 quality striker NOW. No thanks to D.Graham either.

  • 165 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    1 draw from 4 in 2013, two home games and lower league opposition in the cup, two winning positions dropped at home. This is by far the worst run I’ve ever endured and is just as painful as the relegation season.

    Villa away next followed by Chelsea, lets hope Taylor is ready for a full 90 against villa and some new signings have come though the door. Then Pards can do his best to turn them all into defensive players

  • 166 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    we could have a new back 4 come villa

    debs saylor mbiwa haidara

  • 167 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Obertan should have started instead of Shola. (Never ever start Shola … should of learned that by now Pardew).

    Then bring Shola on for Cisse after 70 mins if needed.

  • 168 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Rotunda whilst I appreciate your comment on Anita he lacks the main attributes needed for a top defensive midfield player.If we could turn the clock back would you pay£6m?

  • 169 robin // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    I do not think any Top Manager will come and work under this regime, what we have is the Chelsea syndrome where the owner is constantly undermining the Manager all be it on a smaller scale as their owner spends lavishly and ours prefers the discount buys. But this to one side i think Ashley will seek to replace Pardew with a Continental Coach rather than a British Manager, as he tries to secure Premiership safety.

  • 170 toonbrother // Jan 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    When we had Guthrie in the squad we did not fall to pieces everytime Cabaye picked up an injury. The man Pardew is too dumb for words

  • 171 joeinthecheapseats // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    How can people claim Cisse is crap he’s had to play on the wing all season barring yesterday.
    Showed good movement at times and could easily have had 2/3 goals but for good goal keeping.
    Just need another forward to back him up and we will be ok

  • 172 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Sorry…had to leave for a bit.

    Santon…Thank you for having a reasonable response, it really is appreciated. The one thing that winds me up more than anything is people coming on here, attacking those that think differently and yet do nothing about the situation other than whinge. If people feel that strongly, go do something about it.

    As for Pardews arrogance….That may well be the case. Tbh, I have said from the start of the season I feel there has been a certain feel of arrogance about the whole team. They started slowly as I think they felt last years finish was a given now…wrong.

    I’m not so sure about Pardews arrogance completely getting the better of him. He’s a but screwed right now whatever he does (actually as far as a lot of fans are concerned he’s been screwed for a while). He can’t do right. With all of the negativity he has to try and stand tall or admit defeat. If you think he isn’t hurting I think you’re completely mistaken. He may be a cockney but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. He’s got a lot going on at the minute and some of it is out of his control…some of it is though.

    If he showed how he really felt right now it’d be game over. Most good managers are cocky and arrogant, it’s part of the job to some extent. It’s easier to take as a fan when the team are winning, not so much when they seem to fall at every hurdle. There is a big psychological factor at play at the minute and it is my opinion that everyone needs to pull in the same direction. I appreciate that’s easier said than done and that the majority have been tremendous in their support so far this season, but is another couple of weeks going to kill us?

    I have always said that if there was an actual decent replacement available then sure, but to date I’ve not seen one that would a) take the job and b) be much better than Pardew.

    Ian…The second half was a complete shambles yesterday. Sadly it was the half that decided the game. Nothing has really changed too much, we still need confidence and depth within the team.

    TDS…I hope to see you back again soon. You bring a well needed calm voice to the blog and tend to not sit too far on any side. If the board did their part I would perhaps find it easier to judge Pardew.

    Overall I am sitting tight for the next couple of weeks as I said I would. The board need to do their part, as do Pardew and the players. We knew there would be no miracle turn around and that small steps would need to be taken to salvage this season.

  • 173 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Obertan would have offered more on the wing than shola ffs. Shola looks lazy upfront so to then make him play on the wing for so long it shocking management, but an effing winger.

    Norwich have 1 point from their last six games, guess who against?
    Reading, first away win of the season.

    Finding it hard to be positive, not sure one signing tomorrow could change that right now. Yesterday was very hard to take as we’re the other games. Relegation six pointer yesterday and we lost

  • 174 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Anita is well worth the money runs all day doesn’t give away a load of stupid fouls can pass and move,has a good first touch and can only get better.Him Cabaye and Marv bossed the midfield first half

  • 175 papattack // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    as soon as pardew plays square pegs in square holes we’ll have a chance until then im calling for him to be sacked, ive had enough of his incopetence.

    we have one player missing whose a starter and ba’s left, aside from that this team finished 5th. there is no excuses left for parduseless. get rid before we go down, again!

  • 176 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    I think we definitely need to sign these players in order to stay up and do well in the Europa cup:

    Zarate (loan or £5m) or Sulejmani

    Mbiwa and Coloccini won’t be able to play together as they are too similar. They’ll be poor on corners as they are both average height. Signing Mbiwa now is a good decision though as Coloccini will definitely be leaving soon.

    Sissoko at £3m is a must signing. With Cabaye injured a lot and Marveaux being fairly injury prone and Tiote away, we need an extra creative midfielder.

    We can sign Haidara in the summer. If Santon gets injured we can get Gutierrez or even Raylor to fill in at left back when he returns.

    The most important thing is keeping Shola, Willo, Simmo and Perch away from the first team. Gosling, Tavernier need to be sold.

  • 177 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Ibiza “if people feel that strongly, do something about it ”

    Like what? Boycott? Protest? Surely that’s more counterproductive than booing?

  • 178 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    OBERTAN OFFERS NOTHING mannnnn. Neither does Ameobi. Ferguson offers a cracking cross and we have scored on numerous occasions from his crosses. He offers a lot more then bloody Parsnip heeeedddd. Is Ferguson injured?

  • 179 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Proud I disagree as a 5th 5inch approx 91/2 stone defensive midfield player was not in my humble opinion the best use of our limited spending power.It is , however a game of opinions.

  • 180 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    nick_9….Protesting against Ashley and Pardew if that’s where your problem is to me makes much more sense than booing during a game when we have a team lacking in confidence. Not saying yesterday was a result of the booing but come on, it’s hardly helping the players is it?

  • 181 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Anita was a great signing and I’ve forgotten that he can fill in at left and right back. We need to sign at least 4/5 players and let 2/3 leave.

  • 182 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    2 wins in 18.

    The first against 10 men Wigan, wrongly 10 men early on.

    The second v QPR. A Shola goal, about the only shot in a really poor game.

    We’ve also handed easy points to Southampton (got their first win v us) and most of the league to be honest.

    We are so much more likely to go down this season than we were at the same point during our relegation year.

  • 183 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    “is another couple of weeks going to kill us?”
    Sadly yes – even NOW a new manager may be too late. We have 10 games away out of 15. Pardew has not won a single game away this season and I do not think any of our wins have been convincing other than against 10 man Wigan!
    Yes the 1st 45 mins were good but sadly AP set them up to be negative in the 2nd half and his subs reinforced it. I do not have a solution as a successor as I cannot second guess who would or would not work with MA/DL. What I do know is that irrespective of signings AP will only take this club one way. I’ve tried to make excuses for the man, but yesterday was just more of the same. He’s won 3 in 18! Sorry but you just cannot defend that, and inertia is not a good enough reason to either! Pardew Out!

  • 184 Malta Mag // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Why is it that the same players get slathered every game regardless? Williamson was not at fault for the first goal and had his best game for ages yesterday. Santon can not defend and he was initially at fault with Kruhl stuck on his line as the ball came into the box. I admit Jonas has been piss poor this season but he’d be a damn sight better if he could rely on Santon.
    I don’t really like this idea of getting rid of Pardew at this stage simply because I can’t think of an obvious choice to take over but this squad is short of big players at present and the “impact” transfer is needed now.

  • 185 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Agree Cabaye, Marvo and Anita bossed Midfield first half. on another Cisse could of had a first half hat trick.

    Need a Fox in the box or a forward to run the channels like Lovankrans did to create the space in other words a clever/instinctive player

    But the second half what a shambles – could only be Pardews half time team talk

  • 186 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    fair play to you lad you talk a lot of sense and i enjoy reading your posts.
    Everyone is calling for Pardews head. Imo this is not the solution yet. We have to give him time to sort things out and to get a few additions in. Look what happened 4 years ago. Everyone thought big AL would save us. No he took us down. Give him till end of feb and if it don’t change then we will have to seriousley look at it. Our main problem is above Pards. This club is being run as a buisness and not a football club. Untill that changes we will allways be a mediocre club

  • 187 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    ibiza @197

    in principle i agree with you about the booing it shouldnt happen, but why cant players use it positively to motivate themselves, like i said above, we pay their wages is that not enough??? we need to wrap them in cotton wool when they cant string 2 passes together, or stay onside, or run down a wing and put a ball in a box??, they should be able toi take it they are men afterall arnt they. i dosxtress though im not having ago, because everything you say seems to have a lot of sense and foundation to it, it just really really narks the p*** out of me thats all. oh and good day to you fine sir.

  • 188 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    There are no leaders on the pitch.
    No Barton or Nolan types.

    Are we getting a striker? Gomis? I’d prefer Danny Graham.
    He’ll settle faster.

    deJong would be an amazing signing.

    We need something big to happen.

  • 189 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Booing won’t help but after three months of garbage if that’s how some fans wish to show their displeasure then so be it. I’m certainly not going to stop attending games and I hope others don’t, I hate seeing empty seats and its less revenue. The sooner we make a decent turnover the better and protesting or boycotting just makes if worse.

    Three months of pain now Ibiza, something needs to stop! The booing has been in moderation at the end of defeats but yesterday was the final straw for many fans who regularly attend games. This season has turned into a nightmare

  • 190 nufc786 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM

  • 191 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    The only Boos that were acceptable was the subs and the result. Anyone else booing throughout the game is a tool and should just watch the game on TV if they cannot control their emotions! Btw Pardew Out!

  • 192 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Malta your telling me Williamson isn’t at fault for not blocking a slow ball in the box which he allowed to go trough his legs? He fcuked up on that goal as did santon.

  • 193 Lucky Les // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Daztoon thanks for your comment on Anita but how does running all day and not fouling make him a good defensive midfielder worth£6m? He can pass usually over a short distance and often back to the player who passed it to him.I also hope he improves as I appreciate he needs time to settle in but I think he lacks the attributes needed for a defensive midfield player.As mentioned previously it is a game of opinions.

  • 194 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Listen to this lads, great Rob Lee tells it how it is. I totally agree with this…

  • 195 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    yes mate it is all down to personal opinions. For me Anita has everything and is pure quality

  • 196 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    where is the poll on parew and cashley. ed

  • 197 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    I can’t believe the fans have been so patient.
    We’ve watched some pure crap this season.

    Then the clown criticises the fans. Unbelievable.

  • 198 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Yes I booed yesterday.
    My frustration was with Pardew and his substitutions in particular Marvos not the players.
    Two players that should of been substituted Shola and Jonas

  • 199 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Spread…..I am not trying to defend 3 wins in 18, what I am defending is the idea that it’s better to just change without any clear plan and hope it sees improvement. Maybe a change in manager would bring some confidence to the team, but it once again depends on who comes in.

    Whilst not all our problems stem from lack of transfers i do believe some key position strengthening will give some players a kick up the backside. Plus cabayes performance yesterday indicated that his lack of form earlier in the season was more down to carrying an injury rather than a loss of faith in Pardew. To me, they seem to want to play for him, so wouldn’t changing manager demoralise them further?

  • 200 bzak12 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Pardue now 2/1 fav with at Skybet as next manager to go.

  • 201 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Why was Ranger on the bench if he had no intention of bringing him on. #rangerout

    Should have had Campbell there instead.
    He’s sent Campbell away because he doesn’t want him around the dressing room because the atmosphere is so bad. #pardewout

  • 202 alf // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Ibiza you print aload of old Pony, stop booing it upsets the players! Total infantile Crap from a nerd who does’nt even attend games. So its okay to be served relegation style football then have the twonk who cooks this drivel up in training all week stand and insult the supporters along with the most ridiculous excuse for a Striker Ranger that NUFC have ever had playing having a go as well! I think you need to concentrate on the Virtual fifa more than the real stuff!!

  • 203 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Next three fixtures:

    Villa away
    Chelsea home
    Tottenham away

    How many points from that then eh?

  • 204 yorkymag // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    The crowd showing their displeasure is completely acceptable
    They have spent hard earner money and have put up with more than enough
    I for one have spend thousands of pounds following the toon this year and if I want to vent my displeasure at the absolutley awful state of affairs I will
    Do you think for one minute if man utd served up this crap the united fan would sit on their hands
    It annoys me almost as much as the rubbish on the pitch when so called fans tell me why I can and can’t do
    I love the toon love going to games but hate what is going on to my club
    I will do what I think necessary to make it as uncomfortable as possible for pardew Ashley and lambias
    If that means another season or 2 in the championship so be it

  • 205 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Last season we got one point from our next three fixtures

  • 206 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Lads, Mbiwa will really shore up the back 4. We also have S.Taylor coming back so there are positives. Heidara is another incoming from what i have read lately so if we do get in Mbiwa, Heidara also we have Debuchy and S.Taylor fit ANDDD hopefull persuade Colo to stay then things will look at lot better, however, we are stil way way short up front. One striker not enough. We need 2 first team stikers to battle it out with Cisse and Ameobi. We need 4 strikers.

  • 207 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Ashley might fancy a punt at 2/1 … then put the winnings on the next manager.

    Handy really being ITK.

  • 208 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM


    Yes we were done over by Reading’s massive squad. Give me a break. Every defeat another excuse. Somewhere down the line just admit this manager is not good enough.

    We were virtually back to full strength at home against the 2nd bottom club with an even worse away record than ours.

    Yet still you won’t climb down off your pompous, know better than everyone else horse and you’d rather give out abuse to fellow fans, rather than a desperately arrogant manager who has even started blaming the fans now for his complete incompetence and totally negative mindset which is losing us a record amount of games.

  • 209 solano // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Any other manager would have been dismissed by now as this dismal season just keeps going…though I would have hoped Patsy might have had the good grace to resign and blow the gaff on the way the whole club is run.
    2 relegations in 4 years will make us the new Sunderland…what a 5 year plan it turned out to be!
    But don’t be a negger, look on the brightside…if anyone doesn’t deserve the extra £80m pot of TV gold it is Fatman ..take consolation in that he won’t pocket it and continue to counter invoice between businesses at the cost of your mental health!
    Just hope people wake up, smell the coffee and start to do something to accelerate their exit.

  • 210 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Mate Cabaye is not a big bloke but can hold his own.Why do you have to be big and strong.Batty,Clark,Venison,Bracewell were all hardly big and strong or good in the air but harassed the opposition and got tackles in.The only holding midfielder we have had in recent years any good in the air was Speed.For me I would rather have Anita who can win the ball and do something with it than Tiote anyday.

  • 211 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM


    i am think,, , i love it,, the last time i checked , a game of football lasts 90 mins
    if the game had of lasted 45 mins, then great, we had lots of chances and won 1-0,
    i think if you had of watch or read about rreading last week, they started slow but never gave up and won last week too
    pardew played into readings hands by taking players of that could of held onto the ball,,

    just becaus he can make 3 subs , dosnt mean he has to,

    reading treated the game like a cup final

    we treated it like a training match

    and one more thing,, your calling me think, fair enough, but i think if you read nearly all of my posts, you will find i have been saying the same stuff over and over, but every week ppl say it will change,

    he isnt good enough

    he has no clue how to use good players

    i dont think he trains the squad right

    i think he has his fave players, and all of them have very little abaility

    his man managment skills where ment to be his best thing he had, have you heard the shit he comes out with??
    after last night, both sammy and numb nut ranger should be taken far away from the first team and reservs and i be very dissapointed if there any where near the bench for the rest of the season

    prob on your wave length though,, kids

  • 212 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    well said solano

  • 213 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Yorky – exactly! 15 games I have been to this season and its costing me a fortune to sit through the sure football but I won’t stop. Chelsea fans booed at the end of their last home game when southampton came from 2 behind to draw. It’s not helpful but it is to be expected after three months of dross that doesn’t look like changing.

  • 214 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    hatem’s better than messi

    well said. says it all – the atmosphere is so bad

  • 215 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Nick….I’m talking about peaceful protests away from games, not boycotting. I too agree that would ultimately lead to larger problems. Let the board know how you feel without it having such a knock on effect to the players.

    Has there been an open letter to the club? Something along the lines of:

    1) We have tried to be patient.
    2) We honestly don’t know whether to trust you or not.
    3) The club needs strengthening now or we wont be back to support this cash cow.
    4) You do your bit and we’ll do ours.

    I honestly don’t know what’s best at this point. I honestly believe they are trying to get players in this window, I may be wrong. Whilst Pardew is far from perfect I can’t help but feel with the right players in this season would have unfolded a lot differently, despite the fact I thought we’d cope better than we have.

    Shire….They are paid a great deal of money to do something that most of us would love to do, however, they are still open to human emotion and are clearly lacking in confidence. I did hear moans within about a minute yesterday. People need to accept there will be mistakes. I do appreciate though that patience runs out and there is nothing I can do or say to make people feel differently, it’s not my place to. We’re all different and if I had paid and sat there in that weather my opinion may well be different. On the other hand though, it may be argued that those opinions are born from frustration and anger and are far from rational.

    Proud….For me there is a balance between running the club as a business and a football team, but there will be ups and downs and it’ll take time to find that balance and ultimately reach our goals. The summer really did set us back, more than I anticipated and I will accept many said that in the summer and I didn’t believe it to this extent. My hands are up.

  • 216 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    the conspiracy theory what most say is absurd ,then think again

  • 217 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM


    i’m a convert, hard to argue with that.

  • 218 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Solano – spread posted Steve keans record at Blackburn and he had very similar results to ours over 25 games taking them down in the end. I know Hughes had a very similar record at qpr before he was sacked. The results need to change soon. I can’t see us getting three points from our next three games and wouldn’t put it past Ba to score to add insult to injury

  • 219 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Don’t rate Danny Graham. Think Gomis would settle in better with all our french contingent. Alderweireld may be tempted to come with Anita and Krul being here etc.

  • 220 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Alf mate….There are many people on here whose opinion I will listen to. You’re not one of them. How about you stick to the football rather than try to analyze someone you’ve never met.


    Nerd x

  • 221 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    anita and krul might want to go elsewhere player rarely influence other to come ,re franch lads and remy

  • 222 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Why do you blame Pards for everything? He can only advise the players on how he wants to play the game and the players must carry out the instructions. Why not blame the players for this mess? They are the only buggers that can get us out of this mess. Pards can’t get his boots on and defend for 90 minutes. It’s up to the lads on the pitch to get results, simple as that. I admit, Pards need’s to shoulder some of the blame for this mess but he certainly aint the only one mate. The board need’s to take a lot of the flak and the players need to take responsibility also. We can’t blame all this on one man, it’s madness. Pards is not a great manager i know that but who else in their right mind would want to work for M.Ashley? He won’t pay the going rate for players and he won’t pay the wages. We get players from France because they are cheap and are on peanuts compared to the EPL. Like R.Lee said in his interview it’s ok bringing these players across from France but after a while they want more money and they want CL Football and trophies. ATM this club is NO WHERE near that standard and that is because our board will simply not spend the money to compete.

  • 223 John Tudor // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    more guff from sheila

  • 224 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Ibiza – I don’t want to protest and have Pardew removed or upset the board, if we go against the board they will just “prove how horrible they can be”. I just want a glimmer of hope, some intent from the board in the widow, some passion from Pardew, some signs from the players that they are giving it their all.

    Yesterday I said before the game that the starting lineup was strange with shola in there and during the game the second half tactics and subs ruined it. If if had worked then I would have held my hands up by at the minute this painful run is ongoing with little improvements.

    In a sense I am pleased that the pressure mounted yesterday after the defeat because the fans at SJP have been very patient every other week despite a couple on groans. Yesterday fans were signing Pardew Wonderland for a good while until he fluffed it up at half time

  • 225 geordiemacc // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Basically fat mike is the the head of nufc. The head is responsible for the thinking, strategising and decision making. Pardew is the mouthpiece. The head passes down information for the mouthpiece to speak, generally its just a facade with things such as “we’re all in this together” And “make no bones about it” common place. And finally we come to derek llambias. This man is the ring piece. The ring piece is recognised as the one being full of s**t and has no quarms about dumping on the hopes of loyal toon faithful and of course the ringpiece hangs of mike ashleys tight a** spouting guff.

  • 226 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    So it looks to me that your argument is founded on inertia mainly. Its understandable as I think most fans have been there this season.
    Yesterday however convinced me beyond any doubt that AP is finished. He’ll never manage a big club again. I do not even want to think about the ramifications of us going down. It makes me sick to the pit of my stomach, but under APs watch that’s exactly where we are heading. You can either choose to defend that or not. That’s you call but it is understandable for fans to vent their frustration. Personally I am more than happy for fans to show their displeasure towards AP and the board because they are culpable in this mess, but I do not think slagging off our own players or jeering them at matches, or booing them is support! That’s my view.

  • 227 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM


    you just contradicted your own question – ferguson.

    First half yesterday was great but with pardew you just know every match he can’t himself doing something stupid
    to ruin it.

    Do you really want to trust a manager with 10 away games to play!!!

  • 228 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    I forgot to add that I am glad the crowd showed their displeasure because the board need to know we are at the end our tether and want signings of changes. Quietly leaving sjp and moaning on a forum isn’t going to make them crack on with signings is it, Pardew knows its a tough job now and needs something to change asap. For the record I didn’t boo, i tend to go into my shell and sit their quietly in shock.

  • 229 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    i said this yesterday,, but pardew is also to blame for lack of signings

    he has a voice,, and at the end of the window he said we had enough,,

    i honestly believe we had enough,, maybe not to chalenge top 4 like last year, but deff be in the top 8

    i see other managers publicly fight with there chairmen to get funds for players,, ours says i think WE under cooked it in the summer, meaning he had a say in it too

  • 230 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Rotonda heights

    I was asking if Ferguson was injured mate? If not then he should be playing. That is all i was asking.

  • 231 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Nick…..Not sure what else to say then really. I think we did start brightly yesterday. Have no idea if Pardew deflated them at half time or maybe what’s his name at Reading just motivated his better but it was clear within 5-10 minutes of that second half we were struggling. I don’t think going all out attack would have done us any great favours. He tried to move our most influential player of the game, Cabaye, further upfield and replace him with a defensive player. It backfired magnificently.

    For me, the key right now if confidence. Which will bring it quicker, new players in or firing the manager is anyone’s guess.

  • 232 alf // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Ibiza are you a soaking wet Liberal? That drivel you spent hours composing in the secure unit of the Hospital for iffy NUFC supporters bordered on the un-hinged, but the worst thing about this moronic defense of the mediocre manager and the sub-standard players he recruits are the misguided Clowns that agree with your ramblings which is quite scary!

  • 233 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    @ibiza, once again agreed, i think it all boils down to what we all want to see is some motivation, which was there for 45 mins, but as soon as a boo was heard heads dropped, but i stand by the fact that it should have been channelled towards the positive, but then again, what are any of our comments going to do to improve fortunes

  • 234 solano // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    The club is so tight, everyone has targets to cut down on expenses- even necessary security…so if you want to protest, get yourself along to the next Euro home game – as policy they don’t conduct searches and have the minimum amount of police presence and stewarding – little wonder that two of these games have seen blokes running across the pitch with their chods out!

  • 235 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    firing the manager nearly always gives the team a lift, and with the quality we have thats all they need,, a lift a spark

  • 236 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Shiremagpie – it looked to me like heads had dropped at half time now twenty minutes later when he made his first sub

  • 237 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    How is the air trafic in the UK today?

    …and what is the forcast for tomorrow?

  • 238 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    please watch , and see what ppl think

    real fans who paid to watch it

  • 239 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Catchy @ 229….This is where I have my main issue with your opinions. They are so definitive and far fetched. Tell me, of all the people who have ever publicly came out against Ashley, how many are still connected to the club?

    He is who he is and needs to be dealt with in a certain way. Calling him out or laying all blame at his door will only end in one thing, Pardew going. Which may suit you, but to expect him to do so is just plain madness imo.

    Spread….There certainly is an element of truth in that, but not completely. I believe with proper support Pardew can do his job here. He hasn’t and things have escalated from there. There are better managers, but I doubt we’re going to get one, so shouldn’t the board be backing him within their plan to help him succeed to the best of his ability?

  • 240 bzak12 // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Anybody ITK? Skybet now has Percy down to evens as next to go.

  • 241 Special K // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Sometimes our fanbase does my head in, incredibly fickle at times. Last year we got nearly every break possible, from slices of luck in matches or with injuries. I only remember missing S.Taylor for a substantial amount of time. Yet I remember one or two posters coming on here who basically said as much (incredibly lucky, wouldn’t last) and they were shouted off here as heretics.

    Pardew was the best thing since sliced bread, his handling of HBA was excellent, his substitutions were occasionally odd but we still won the game so who cares. He understood the passion of the city and translated that to the players. Basically what was being said on here last year.

    Now he’s a Class A muppet, a moron who’s nothing more than a mouthpiece for the nasty and cheap Ashley & Llambias FC. The same two men who we weren’t exactly criticising for their shrewd moves and failure to pay over the odds last season.

    The reality is that Pardew and this team are probably not as good as last year or as bad as this year. The Board made a costly mistake not reinvesting in the summer but they’re trying to make amends, not their fault Remy wanted £85,000 a week.

    Stick with the team, the manager and the board. The last time we went down by ONE POINT, you cannot tell me all the instabilty of that campaign wasn’t worth at least a point.


  • 242 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    @ nick, i watched it on tinterweb from the comfort of my sofa and i totally agree mate, it was a bit strange at half time, my point is the whole booing in general, i mean players come out saying we need the crowd behind us blah blah blah….. WHY, do we do anything, its not nursery and you need your teacher to call you a good boy for reading a page iof your book without help!!!! they are professional football players many of whom are international players aswell, why cant they handle a boo, the way they go on you would expect a mass players exodus at the first negative sound down the tunnel to cry in their 10 grand louis vuitton handkercheifs.

  • 243 toonLYF // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM


    why would it matter to Alderweireld that Krul is here? Alderweireld is Belgian, and Krul has never played for Ajax or been associated with them before.

    They’ve probably never met.

  • 244 noladonna // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    pardew got everything wrong yesterday and i always takes marveaux off no matter if marvo plays brilliant he will be coming off cause hes loyal to his favorites like jonas and shola its discrimintion in a way.

    shola should not of started he should of been plan b for me obertan should of played i dont agree with playing players in wrong positions its fooking dumb gets you nowhere anyway ive had enough he has to go for me theres no way back for him

  • 245 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    catchy in norway

    what happened 4 years ago when the mighty SHEARER took over mmmmmmmmmmmm

  • 246 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Shire…I actually think something changed before the boos started. We had lost control, as recognised by Pardew. He didn’t blame the fans for the turnaround, he accepted it happened before that point. It is more a point for me, of it not helping matters further. But that’s just my opinion, I wasn’t there…I was too busy being medicated in my nerdy hospital ward….right Alf?

  • 247 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM



    he is there to do a job,, full stop,, his job is to win games,, full stop

    if he is not being supported,, why is always coming out and saying things like… “mike asked me what he could do to help” when clearly he isnt getting the help from above,,

    but that does not excuse what he has done to himself this season with strange starting line ups, strange tactics and strange subs, then strange after match coments,, these 4 areas he is in full control off,, no one else

    you have agreed many time about those things and continue to back the guy,,

    and yes by sitting on a fence saying i will wait until the end of the season is backing the guy
    cos when it gets to the end of the season and we are in the championship, you carnt look back and say how did that happen, when us as fans do have a say,, and so does he

  • 248 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Probably my last comment today, because there’s nothing you or I can do other than an exchange of opinions.
    “with proper support Pardew can do his job here” – sorry but I do not believe that anymore. So this window will not have that much bearing on our results. We have the players but AP is unable to deploy them correctly. The only game AP talks is a negative one – he was the first person to even mention “RELEGATION” publically, he’s so negative before and after a game I’d hate to be a player listening to his “guff” at half-time. The man has lost the plot and I no longer believe in the manager and I suspect many in the dressing room are beginning to believe that too.

  • 249 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM


    he got 8 games to turn it around

    we gave a guy who had no managerial experence the job to get us out of a huge hole ashley had dug by leaving it to late to get JFK out,, it took illness,, you plonker

  • 250 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    so do we think summit was said or disagreed with in the dressing roomat half time chaps???.

    to put my little conversation to bed, i hate the fact they feel they have to have us behind them in order for them to perform??? its backwards

  • 251 numba9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    i think we need alot more than the 2 players pards thinks we need, we needed a cb before the colo saga, now to be sure we need 2, and 2 up front as we lost mcloven and best before ba went so 2 or three there as well, OVER TO YOU ASHLEY

  • 252 Special K // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Catchy in Norway

    And you genuinely believe that if Pardew was sacked tonight, Ashley would bring in a better replacement * It would JFK 2.0 all over again, stability will keep us up. Change for the sake of change is no good!

    *Only realistic replacement you can consider is Blanc, anyone who suggests anyone else needs their head examined.

  • 253 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    good to see pards taking responsibility for yesterdays defeat, thats because it was so blatently obvious , he has no choice, however, where we are in the league is not just down to “one” mistake yesterday, it is a string of errors ,in every game this season.
    his negative tactics backfired by bringing perch on for marveaux with nearly HALF AN HOUR to go – trying to close the game instead of looking for a 2nd is what he he has been guilty of all season- he wont change – his style and tactics are not acceptable at a club like this – even if they were working. pards out- adkin in till end of season

  • 254 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Shire – I genuinely believe he told them to see out the half and not take any chances. Trouble is we are incapable of holding a lea and have been for a while. If anything the sound of booing would make me try that extra bit harder for the dead of being booed again or singled out etc. You wouldn’t want to be seen walking about on the pitch when youre losing and when the fans are hostile would you? The boos from my perspective at the ground were because it was seen as though he was shutting up shop with 30 minutes to play. We then conceded and had players on who looked less like scoring for Pardew to be forced into make another defensive sub with cabaye and us conceding again. It was very hard to take after travelling in those conditions and the previous games / results. I’ve said it for a while that Newcastle fans are like most others but need an entertaining team or a passionate display. We want pride and not a defensive display.

    Proud – I think you are being a tad harsh on Shearer, he had 8 games to turn it around. Pardew has won two games in 18 and has about 4? Points in the last eight? I get your point though that a new manager doesn’t guarantee a lift

  • 255 Special K // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    stuart no9

    Adkins? Mate get yourself to the nearest hospital and have your head examined. Yes he had an excellent record at Southampton, majority of it was in the Championship/League 1…

    He had £30m to spend this summer and they’re in a similar spot to us! He walks into the dressing room, he’s hardly going to command the respect of the players. I’d imagine likes of HBA & Cabaye have never heard of him.

  • 256 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    catchy in norway
    don’t think you got my point there mate.
    when a team is on a downward spiral it dosn’t matter who you bring in it is down to the mentallity of players. when you are losing games you forget what to do to win games. That is why we need players back saylor,tiote,benny cabs and at least 3 new players in. the mentallity of the present playing staff is shot to bits. We need to persavere with pardew till the end of the season cause believe me we will have the mentallity to avoid the drop come feb 1st

  • 257 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    For me its a case of Pardew worring to much about what the opposition are doing and trying to stop them playing than letting our players play their natural game.Marv,Anita and Cabs controlled the first half more so by keeping the ball and using it.We lost because Pardew changed that to going defensive and letting Reading have more of the ball.We need a change now before its to late

  • 258 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Special K 251

    Exactly. Another manager would be in exactly the same predicament as Pardew. Same players, same board. What difference would it make? There need’s to be a change at the top, not the manager. Everything went great for Pardew last year, we heard Pardiola and people thought he was the best manager we have had in a while. Now, he is every bad thing you can think of. God forbid the players should be blamed. To easy to blame a manager now especially here at NUFC. Pards expected to do a job on a shoe string……some reality checks in order.

  • 259 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:14 PM


    dont you think harry is turning QPR around?

    i do

    there winning games

  • 260 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM


    yes, i really do think it is as simple as that

  • 261 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    solano@ 209 i hope you dont mean what i think you mean by us fans doing something to get rid of our owners. i hope you dont mean the B–COTT word ! you know we cant do that solano it will unsettle the and your not a fan if you do that anyway. wink

  • 262 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Spread….Before you go, thanks for the reasoned discussion. Not sure if he was the first to publicly mention it, but he certainly wasn’t the first person I heard it from…it was all over here. Back to the point of he can’t win no matter what he says. He wasn’t wrong, we need to turn things around as we are too close to the bottom.

    Anyway, hope you have a good day and that things turn around and soon.

    Catchy….By not supported I meant in the summer and you know it. What is the point in using a quote from after the window had closed? What it shows me is that both Pardew and Ashley knew there had been mistakes in the summer, so now he needs backing.

    On his odd starting line ups and subs I have always said that I felt it was down to a lack of options and that when he had time and the players he wants that would change. I feel he has been trying to make the best out of what he has, which being completely honest is some great players mixed with a fair few average ones.

    I’m not sitting on a fence pretending I don’t back Pardew, I have been one of the biggest supporters of him on this blog and I’m not hiding from that.

  • 263 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    catchy in norway

    The difference is the QPR board are backing Reknapp. He has spent millions at QPR. Pardew is expected to do a job with very little funds.

  • 264 remy D // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Proudtobeansmb get off the blog man you div no one wants you’re crap opinion

  • 265 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Yes another manager would have the same predicament but he lets say Martinez has a different philosophy to Pardew.Yesterday first half showed when we keep the ball and pass and move we looked good and Reading weren’t in the game.Second half Pardew changed it and went defensive which gave Reading a way back into the game and cost us.

  • 266 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM


    we need a manager with a positive mindset who goes out to win matches and lets players express themselves. you’d be amazed what a competent, adventurous manager could do with the same players.

    i doubt many if any reading players would get in to our team and we were virtually back to full stength + debuchy, so injuries and not been backed enough doesn’t really wash any more.

  • 267 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    On Redknapp….he has stabalised a club that was a shambles. However, he isn’t winning anything with style or comfortably.

    Last 5 games:

    Chelsea 0-1 QPR
    QPR 1 – 1 West Brom (FA Cup)
    QPR 0 – 0 Spurs
    West Brom 0 – 1 QPR (FA Cup Replay)
    West Ham 1 – 1 QPR

    He’s doing an alright job, but let’s not get carried away. He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy. Personally I wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club.

  • 268 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    …so no one knows how the air trafic is in the UK or is everyone just so caught up in selfpromoting their own ideas?

    hmm (same old same old on here)

  • 269 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Does anybody know how many managers appointed in January to a team in a relegation battle have went on to keep the club up?,been trying to google it but can’t find anything,bet it’s not many.

  • 270 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    catch in norway

    to a point he is but look at the backing he has had from fernando’s. do you honestley think ashley will back a new manager? He won’t back the present one

  • 271 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    daztoon and Rotonda heights

    Both good points but i am sick to the back teeth of chopping and changing managers. It just seem’s to cause more unrest then ever. I admit that Pards is not the best but he done great last season. Look at Everton and Moyes….a great example of what sticking by a manager can do. Mind you, if we had the chance of Moyes coming to this club then it may be a different matter hahaha nah honestly, i would like to see what happens when we get a signings in and get a full strength team out on the pitch. If we are still on a downward spiral by then, then it will be time to look into a change in some way.

  • 272 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Jesper….UK air traffic? No idea mate. You flying to the UK or worried about new players not being able to arrive? :)

  • 273 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM


    Krul, Debuchy (5M), Santon (5M), colo (10M), Anita (6M), Cabaye (4.5), Cisse (9M) Marveaux (60k a week wages), Jonas (5M) Obertan (3M)

    Didn’t notice too many 10M, if 5M players in Reading’s team

  • 274 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    He may not be the messiah but he has a friend in Rome you know and his name is Bigeth ********

  • 275 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    So qpr have picked up 5 points from the last three league games and beaten west brom in the cup, that’s a good set of results compared to ours. Ashley needs to seriously back Pardew in the window or get rid of him. It’s not thing to admit you messed up in the summer and its another to mess up in January. If a cb and a st don’t come in its another bad window for me.

    At one point yesterday we dropped to 17th whilst villa was leading, thank god west brom came back from being 2 goals down and equalised.

  • 276 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Ibiza…just wondering why the two french ppl we are said to have agreed a fee for are still in Franch?

  • 277 mattnufc // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Marveaux 60k a week? I doubt it.

  • 278 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM


    if you look at pardew’s record it starts off well but it always ends up very badly with really low morale everywhere.

  • 279 stuart no9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    special ‘254 i said adkins till the end of season not full time . bye the way look at his record, iy dosnt matter what league it is he knows how to play the game. he would not have done what pards done yesterday. also did you go to the southampton game a few weeks ago.? this little manager who can only manage lower clubs just happened to destroy our millionairs with a team full of nobodies. you may like to revist your comment!!!!!

  • 280 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Daz….He has a wife you know? :)

    Welease Bwian!

  • 281 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    that’s because he was on a free

  • 282 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    They are all aware of each other. Alderweireld won’t be going to Spurs. The only other options are us or Arsenal. We’ve put ourselves in a massive mess by letting. This team would’ve been a lot better on paper than Man Utd:


    Debuchy Alderweireld Mbiwa Santon


    Ben Arfa Cabaye Marveax

    Ba Cisse/Remy

  • 283 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Jesper…I heard, likely on here, that the medicals etc were taking place in France. Think it might have been Torq, but can’t remember for sure.

  • 284 jammylambo // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    anyone seen anything about us being made favourites to sign darrent bent , please for all that is sacred tell me its not true.

  • 285 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    @ jesper, for what ever reason you need to know this air traffic the mrs’ da works at the airport and flights are in and out fine, might be late or delayed but thats the worst. the problem after that is the metros for anybody to get to the stadium from the airport isnt running, dont think ashley will fork out for a car from the airport. so that couyld be a stumbling block.

  • 286 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    We are all sick of changing mangers mate but look we are on a downward spiral and Pardew`s negativity yesterday cost us another winnable game.Our group of players have a lot of quality which is mostly going forward not defending a 1-0 for 30 mins.Ashley got it right getting KK back what would he have done with this group of players

  • 287 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    not all managers are high maintenance. some are just very good at their jobs and can motivate teams. I bet a lot of managers would love to work with:-

    Ben Arfa, Krul, Debuchy, Santon, Colo, Anita, Cabaye, Cisse, Marveaux etc

  • 288 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Ibiza…maybe that is i order to keep ‘Arry at bay 😀

    Shire… lol you are probably right

  • 289 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    No you fool release Pardewick

  • 290 Paps // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Reading sky sports and seen Darren Bent as a suggestion. Why have we not thought of him before

  • 291 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    I cant defend Pardew for yesterday’s tactics at all. Very poor and cost us the game but he had admitted this. On another not, i am reading some Arsenal supporters comments on Mbiwa. So bloody arrogant it’s unreal. Saying Wenger should not let us sign him. Who the hell do they think they are ffs. Mbiwa does not belong to AFC. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr .

  • 292 Shot Bru // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Am i right in thinking QPR have only bought 1 player since Redknapp has arrived?

    QPR have taken 5 points from their last 3 games which have all been London derbies with 2 of the teams in the top 4. His defence is based around Nelson, Hill and Derry….better quality than our players?

    Redknapp is positive and makes his players believe they can get out of the predicament they’re in…

    Lets see how how many points Pardew gets from Chelsea and Spurs in the next few weeks.

    Qpr are on a roll with Redknapp in charge…i would rather be in their shoes with Redknapp in charge than us with Pardew.

  • 293 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:36 PM


    Alan curbishly did it for west ham and who did he take over from??????

  • 294 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Daz….Not even in a joke for me, sorry.

    Jesper…I bet that is exactly why :)

  • 295 Shiremagpies // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    @ jesper although if im not mistaken he could get off the metro and south gosforth and get the metro on the other platform which will take him to haymarket stroke monument if lamearse can provide him with a tourist guide to newcastle he/they could make thier own way there. its a long shot like.

  • 296 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Rather have Kinnear back then that joke of a man Redknapp..sorry.

  • 297 numba9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    id like 2 see curbishley manage us but i think he is not the muppet that ashley would employ, he had the same tretment not too long after our fat jabba did it too king kev

  • 298 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    78 @ comment 222

    Oh I don’t know, could it be that yesterdays taking off of marveaux was so typical of the man’s overwhelming incompetence.

    My first half comment yesterday was I’m really enjoying this, just hope pardew doesn’t do his usual and go defensive!!!

    if me, a man on the street knows what he’s going to do, how is he going to outwit any other manager?

  • 299 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Eaststand I don’t know the exact numbers but if it is only 1 manager that has done that,with the amount of times a manager has been sacked from a struggling team not long after Christmas over the last 5 or so seasons,doesn’t that say to you it would be a bad idea?

  • 300 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    ashley doesn’t choose pardew’s tactics!!!

  • 301 RooneyToons // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Theres one major problem we’ve got and its goals… We would of scored 3 or 4 yesterday with Ba and we would have 3 points.

    Everyone would be saying we’d played great.
    We actually played well up until there 1st goal and then they grew in confidence and there was only gonna be one result.

    Cisse is really lacking confidence but how can you say get rid of him.. We all know what he’s capable of.

    We need to strikers fast.. one to start alongside Cisse and help him and one to provide much needed competition and another option of the bench.

    Reading had 2 shots on target and 2 goals… we had 10.
    We need a super sub like Le fondre who will take there chance.

    And what was Ameobi doing not putting Cabaye through on the left… surely would of scored(on his strong foot) to make it 2-0 and probably 3 points

  • 302 toonLYF // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    we sign Darren Bent – my season ticket gans’ on the pitch next match.

  • 303 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    terrified to see someone said for Raymond Domenech….. a manager that for france refused to pick a centre half because his star sign clashed with the star sign of his centre halve partner….. guys a mentalist!
    Not behind sacking pardew, but if he goes, and we decide we need a french speaking manager, i actually rate Pablo Correa! Claude Puel isn’t bad either! The logical choice for me would have been Jean Tigana, but he;s on mega bucks now in china managing Drogba!
    my actual choice would be Dragan Stojkovi?, worldly respected and his team plays fantastic football

  • 304 toonLYF // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    i’d take Benteke like 😉

  • 305 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    RooneyToons – agree with that after Ba our next highest scorers are cisse and Ben Arfa on 4 and 3, that in itself speaks volumes about the squad. I’ve witnessed many opposing teams at sjp take their whole team for shooting practice and look pretty handy (including reading) I’m yet to see or remember us before the game have the whole team practice hooting.

  • 306 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Jay photo – that’s hilarious haha

  • 307 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    proud @ 255
    “don’t think you got my point there mate.
    when a team is on a downward spiral it dosn’t matter who you bring in it is down to the mentallity of players. when you are losing games you forget what to do to win games.” – QPR what’s that then?

  • 308 criticalsteve73 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    we dont need all this slating the manager and players at the minute we need to get behind them ,they need our unrivaled support from now till the end of the season. all this calling for pardews head doesnt make the players play better,as far as iam concerned we need to wait till end of season to judge no available managers will change our position its new faces on the playing side we need.

  • 309 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    damn it, i just accidently read a kets post…..
    Kets, Man Utd are top of the league and play some fantastic football! 2 or 3 players is not going to take us to there level! They have probably the greatest football manager ever to manage the game, a coaching staff that is respected throughout the world, better facilities, the income to pay players 250k a week and to buy 40m transfer players! They also have players out on loan playing well all over the world, their youth team is amazing, if u ever bothered to watch football (im assuming you dont venture far from football manager) you’d see that england u16’s, u18’s and u19’s all have about 10 man utd players in there youths, and in most cases they are the best players! 2 or 3 players is not going to make us on there level!

  • 310 jayphoto // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    @Nick_9 yeah, funny thing was it was Mexes who he left out because of it who at the time was probably the best CB in europe!

  • 311 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Rotonda He made those subs yesterday when we were 1-0 up against a team that was playing a lot better than it did in the second half than it was in the 1st half,they were looking dangerous on the counter and with 20 odd minutes left he brought Marv off because he doesn’t track back much,with Cabs,Marv and Anita in the midfield all going forward we were looking open to the counter,he brought Perch on to sit in midfield while the others got forward,Anita and Cabaye will bust a gut to get back in position if they lose the ball and Marv doesn’t,it completely backfired on him when Cabs went off,if all your midfielders are going forward who’s going to protect the back 4.Marv was sacrificed to shore up the midfield and it backfired big style.

  • 312 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Any of you lot rate this Mbiwa then?

  • 313 Toon-Barmy // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    I just heard some interesting news from a friend close to NUFC:
    Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa is very close to signing for Newcastle Utd, thanks to Sylvain Marveaux.
    Apparently Marveaux’s older brother Joris is a team-mate of Mapou and he’s convinced the young defender that a move to Newcastle is the best thing for him at this stage of his career.

  • 314 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    the most worrying and damaging thing of all was why it would even occur to pardew to take marv off

  • 315 proudtobageordie // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    we were discussing what happened when shearer took over with 8 games left in 2009

  • 316 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 2:59 PM


    no doubt you can come up with reasons for all of our massive 21 points from 23 games

  • 317 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Jay photo – that’s crazy. I can imagine him fitting in well here.

    Raymond: boss, I would like us do sign sissoko to add some drive to the midfield

    Mike: Raymond I’m not sure sure that’s a good idea

    Raymond: why boss?

    Derek: he’s a Scorpio Raymond

    Raymond; ah ok boss, I’m sure perch and bigi can manage

    Mike: good work Derek, saved me some money there buddy.

  • 318 papattack // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    all the people saying nobody would come because of our restrictive funds need to think about it, we do sign players and players of quality. there is money if the player suits, the only blame i think the board should accept is not replacing players like guthrie best and lovenkrands and improving the depth of the squad for europe, but mike ashley and co. havent been in europe with a club before so thats been a lesson which they have learned the hard way. there is worse owners for and i think managers would want to come and work with our players.

    the rest of this mess falls solely on pardew and his tactics and not having the balls to drop one of the strikers in order to keep a system going that was winning us football matches.

    433 was working wonders but only with ba left and cisse through the middle, he has tryed to replicate it with ameobi and cisse right and it has not worked, but for whatever reason he is persisting and its losing us games. ameobi is an impact sub at best, pardews failure to realise this and his defensive tactics with a team which doesnt defend well is for me the main reason we are on this run.

    hughton was sacked for nothing compared to what pardew is orchestrating so why is he still in charge?

  • 319 RooneyToons // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM


    Now that you mention it i know what you mean… and practise makes perfect at the end of the day.
    One things for sure Williamson doesn’t practise… probably would of been 1 nil up but he barely made contact from 6 yards out.

    I was just thinking how many players do we have that are natural finishers… Cisse (out of form) Ben Arfa (injured)
    Thats about it
    maybe Cabaye?

    How we gonna win when we can’t finish???

  • 320 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    How do you sign in on the mobile site ? . I tried yesterday but couldn’t, on my laptop now

  • 321 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM


    Haven’t a clue. I don’t play Football Manager games.
    I rarely comment on European players … strikers you can tell a fair bit from stats but defenders and MF players … the leagues are at a different level, less competition, the French market is like the North sea, over-fished for strikers.

  • 322 papattack // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    oh and does anyone else think we should be trying to sign diame from west ham? just the sort of player we need in midfield with cabs and anita/tiote.

  • 323 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Mbiwa is the perfect replacement for Coloccini. We need another centre back though and Douglas or Denswil in the summer.

  • 324 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Rotonda heights

    I must admit, taking Marveaux off beats me big time. Why change something that is working?

  • 325 Jam only For H.ben Arfa // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM

  • 326 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM


    we all support the team, but would you want to risk leaving pardew in charge of this runaway train crash?
    he’s clearly out of his depth and clueless.

  • 327 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Looks the part wouldnt mind partnering him with Alderweireld

  • 328 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    I think Danny Graham would be a great buy.
    Even looking very short term.

    1. Keep us up, he’s in form, is likely to settle fast.
    2. Give him a season as reward or he’ll be great in the Championship.

    For around 6M he could be a season saving bargain.

  • 329 criticalsteve73 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    big papa just had same problem with mobile site

  • 330 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:07 PM


    ash was there in a woolly hat

  • 331 JAMSHA // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    BA comen.on.for torres

  • 332 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Doumbia/Gomis and Sulejmani/Zarate would be ideal coups. Belhanda is worth a £10m bid.

  • 333 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Not being able to field a full strength team consistently,we had near enough our 1st team out yesterday and dominated them in the 1st half,squad players coming in who haven’t produced,it was all good last season when morale was high and the players who came in when 1 of our 1st team players got injured done well but it’s times like these when you find out what your players are really made of and this season the squad players haven’t stepped up,players out of form,basically were having the complete opposite of last season,but i believe if we can get our 1st team consistently and with a few good signings we’ll be fine.

  • 334 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM


    I hope we can partner Mbiwa wih Collo mate. Mouth watering to say the least with S.Taylor and Williamson as back up. Now that to me is a strong option for Pardew to tinker with. 3 quality CB and one not so good but there anyway incase the worst should happen. We must keep Collo though otherwise we are not better off are we?

  • 335 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    I agree mate why alter something that is working fine.Will he learn from it though I don’t think so.Our best defence is to attack the opposition and keeping the ball works for us not sitting back inviting pressure

  • 336 JAMSHA // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM


  • 337 criticalsteve73 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    rotonda i agree its a real mess at sjp at the minute but who would you get in charge the names people are coming up with is unbelivable,

  • 338 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Would play Colo dm mate ball watches to much for me as cb or even play Colo as a sweeper

  • 339 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    If Collo leaves then we still need another CB. We will be no further forward. It would be a case of one in one out.

  • 340 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Rooney toons – exactly, we need the likes of Anita, arfa, marveaux, tiote, cabaye, obertan, Jonas to be practicing shooting so they can chip in with a few. Last season after cisse and Ba it was Ben Arfa who scored the most with 5 and he only started playing in January once the African boys left, this season cisse has 4 and Arfa 3. It’s not enough.

  • 341 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM


    What about Mbiwa as a DM mat?. A lot of Arsenal supporters saying he played there against them.

  • 342 Dannyo // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    So San Lorenzo now have a backer to buy Coloccini and Mbiwa is at a more advanced stage in negotations than Remy ever was.

    It hurts to say it, but i don’t think Collo will be playing at Villa.
    I hope Mbiwa doesn’t take long to settle. Physically he shouldn’t.

    And we need to add another CB then. Having Collo leave mid season in the struggle that we’re in, isn’t exactly the perfect scenario…

  • 343 Santon03 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:17 PM


    Yes, another couple of weeks wouldn’t kill us, but it’s just going to make it harder job for the new manager (if pardew will be sacked) to get us out of relegation zone.
    Yes, booing wouldn’t help, but you also need to understand that the booing just started yesterday after so many defeats. It’s acceptable, it’s not overreaction imo, the fans has been patient enough.
    Yes, I agree with you on changing manager without correct planning will be useless and it’s up to the board. I think they are just like you, giving another couple of weeks and hopefully they are starting to get replacement soon. Because even if pardew can turn this around, I don’t think he should be managing this club, I have lost my confidence and I don’t want another 7 seasons like this one. Again, it’s not up to me, it’s up to Ashley.

  • 344 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:19 PM


    Exactly mate. Board thinks the fans are daft. Spending the money we get for Collo on Mbiwa. Still no better off. Totall madness. Still in the same predicament. Another CB needed if he goes.

  • 345 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:19 PM

  • 346 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Calmed alot on here since last night. Good to see.


    Excellent. I applaud your discussions and points in this article.

    Saved me a whole lot of writing today.

    This is also my thinking aswell. Pretty much down to a tee. And exactly how i feel about the current situation.

    Lack of investment last summer, Lack of quality in depth, confidence issues, low morale, Injury problems. Unable to field a consistent team of what i deem as 1st team Premiership Quality Newcastle United players and subs.

    Pardew is not an excellent manager. Pardew just had an excellent season before this. Im also in agreement he can do a job giving the right resources and backing. I do not want a manager change.

    On a total different note here.

    I’d like to see this blog expand a bit. Its a great place to discuss NUFC but there is alot of abuse which hampers it at times.

    Just a thought, but maybe a mature forum and a youngster forum would be of certain benefit. When discussing i’d really like to know the age of who im talking to aswell. Nobody should be recieving abuse in a football blog. Anyone who hurls it is obviously lacking in maturity.

    Just my thoughts. I love this place, i’v been reading it for around six years now. But it could be alot better if its wanted to be.

    Excellent blog though Ed, i’v got a lot of time for this place.

  • 347 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    A new manager wouldn’t get booed (unless its JFK or Curbishley) … takes that one out of the equation.

  • 348 Dannyo // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    On Collo, if he needs to sort things that are so important in his personal life, then i would have a problem making him stay.
    So i can understand them letting him leave.
    But if they think Mbiwa is enough, then i hope they think again.

  • 349 daztoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Depends what happens with Colo mate the whole club is a mess through total mis management from top to bottom and as usual we are the ones to suffer.We have no say in anything but will be black n white for this life and beyond

  • 350 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM


    i think he was supported in the summer, and i think he has miss used the squad

    our squad did not need that much,, everyone on here said top 8,, everyone, that says to me we looked ok

    first 15 games ,, all pardews fault,, wrong tactics wrong players

    both bigi and anita have been good players for us

    you can not sit there and say he has tried, he played cisse out on the right for most of the season,, not one assist
    he had a cisse and ba problem, didnt know how to deal with it so played them both

    marv has sat on the bench , and not even on the bech for large parts of the first half f the season, being pushed out ,, when he has played he has always looked a decent player to me,, and always offers more than obertan shola and jonas,,

    looking at obertan sammy fergy,, out of all of them, fergy has got more assists, tracks back and tackles, yet he is left out

    our left side has been a joke all season,, who is out there?? jonas??? santon is at lb or left winger,, jonas is always in no mans land,, and i think santon suffers because of this,,

    jonas has played lw fw lb rb DMC sometime he is plys 3 in one game, and im sure we have better players in all positions on the bench

    so please dont tell me he has done the best with what he has had,,

    regards HARRY,, no i wouldnt have him, but he got into the club, and befor any money was spent he turned it around, got them playing better, got them getting points,
    so yes, a new man coming in can work,, and will work,, we need a man not a mouse,,

    he has blamed everything
    europe, made lots of changes around 9 per game
    kids who won him games in the europe games but not good enough
    injuries even though he has had in most games a good enough team,,
    4-3 v man u, second string team hmmmm

  • 351 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:24 PM





    Not a bad line up but Aubameyang and Collo will more then likely not be in there :(

  • 352 Spreadthetoon // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    from QPR tw@t….sums it up…about AP being fired…………..we’re a laughing stock

    Anyone know?

    Just had a text but I’m out so anyone heard anything or maybe it’s just a rumour?

    Hope not think he’s doing rather well there

  • 353 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Good points Catchy have to agree with that.

    I have no confidence in Pardew anymore.
    He gets the basics wrong too often.

  • 354 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Santon…I do understand that completely, in fact I think I said something to the same effect. The fans have been great this season, where most fans from other PL clubs would have kicked up long ago. I get there are serious issues between the owner and fans as no one really knows where we stand. it’s so up and down and eventually patience gives in. Not for me to say when that time comes for each individual.

    If Ashley is considering getting rid of Pardew, then I agree, he should do it sooner rather than later. I get the feeling Ashley knows his own short comings this year and what he has to do next, but as always with Ashley, who knows for sure.

    I always envisaged Pardew as being the guy who could give us something a bit better than mid-table each season, whilst building the squad up and as and when the club were in a better financial position to make a statement a better manager would be brought in, unless of course Pardew was working miracles. I do feel at this point that last summer started this spiral of negativity and lack of confidence. It’s spread like a disease to date. I have no answers or ideas long term, to be honest, any X year plan has to be somewhat put on hold for now. Ashley needs to decided now what he thinks is best to keep us in the PL and then re-assess.

  • 355 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Prodigy…I’m tagging you in…time for a smoke and a cup of coffee :)

  • 356 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:34 PM


    why would you think that,,

    he has been a yoyo man at every club,, stability is not his thing

  • 357 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Someone saying QPR have bid for Mbiwa hahahahahaha. Now that would be a kick in the balls .

  • 358 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM


    Ahh no no. Im off on the drink buddy.. :)

    Have a pleasant evening 😉

  • 359 catchy in norway // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:37 PM


    it started last season ,, im telling you

    between BA CISSE HBA they scored 34 out of our 56 goals
    22 from everyone else,, that is very poor

    and 15 clean sheets,, great,, but in the other games we were shipping 3 or more to often,, not what i would say narrow losses,, more like being whiped

  • 360 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Some guy on Twitter reckons he’s been sledging and seen Pardew there. #warlington ?

    A few sacking rumours too.
    99.99999% sure it’s bollox.

  • 361 Jakenufc // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    would love to see
    Cabaye—-De Jong—–Anita

    in the not too far distant future

  • 362 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Catchy…I was one of those posters who said top 8 was achievable with what we did in the summer. There were many however that didn’t think it was enough. I have to say I think they were right and i was wrong.

    I am not blaming this whole season on lack of incomings and injuries, but I believe they have played a big part in the beginning of our down fall. At this point though, it’s more about confidence than anything else for me.

    Looking at yesterdays game, do you think we’d be anywhere near as good in that first 45 minutes without Cabaye? I don’t. He was like last years player again, which makes me think that he was indeed playing with an injury for the beginning part of this season.

    Whilst our squad is no worse than many other teams in the league, we do overly rely on our higher caliber players like Cabaye, Tiote, Krul, Colo, HBA, Ba & Cisse…they were huge for us last season and without them we’d be nowhere near that 5th placed finish.

    In the summer I recognised we still had improvements to make to the squad, but didn’t expect this and thought we could hold out. Truth is we lost two undervalued players in Best and Guthrie. They both had to go, I don’t blame the club for that, but they weren’t replaced and we were short before they left. This one out / one in thing is not going to work. We have also had EL to deal with, which granted we did rotate a fair bit, however, it is a new experience for many in the squad, including the manager.

    It’s been a slow and painful learning curve from top to bottom and for many reasons. That is why I believe Pardew should be backed and given time.

  • 363 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Catchy…It’s been a long day, I have given you my reasoning in depth before. You have your views, I have mine and that’s okay. Very briefly:

    Defense – Williamson and Simpson have had to be called on far too much for a team looking to improve. We all know it. I like Santon, but he is young and learning his trade and is prone to costly mistakes. Other than that we have S. Taylor who is out more than he is in. Young Tav and Fergie who are promising but not what we need and then there is Perch who for me is a DM not a CB. When the whole team defends well we keep clean sheets, when they don’t we are open to be slaughtered. This is a huge issue and will effect how Pardew sets his team up.

    He has publicly said for a while that he wanted a new CB and we all knew he was after Debuchy, so he clearly sees the weak links and is trying to get them sorted so he can stop having to set up his team to deal with these issues. It’s throwing the balance off too much.

    Okay…that was anything but brief :) Man oh man how it’d be simpler for me to want Pardew out, I could just copy and paste to my hearts content.

    Prodigy….Leave me in a time of need? :) Enjoy mate.

  • 364 GeordieToon89 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Why would Pardew go sledging

  • 365 GAZ09 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:49 PM


    Pardew should not be given more time the man has an appalling record, as for a learning curve go learn how to manage in the lower leagues, the premiership is not the place for that. We have a great squad of players and some top youngsters but under a poor manager like Pardew only damage is going to happen to them. the man is way out of he’s league managing NUFC

  • 366 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Gaz….Then shouldn’t have Ashley thought about that before we embarked on a EL campaign? You can’t learn about European football in the lower leagues. This season was always going to be a learning curve, as would be bringing in a manager from overseas that has never managed in the PL…so who do you suggest we replace him with?

  • 367 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    If we got nothing at villa where do we go from there???????

  • 368 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM


    He likes going down-hill fast and out of control?

  • 369 GeordieToon89 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    eaststandgeordie1982 – Theres only one way .. Down

  • 370 GeordieToon89 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Hatem’s better than Messi – Fair one i’ll give you that mate

  • 371 GAZ09 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM


    Im not naming people who we should replace him with, im just saying he should never have been hired in the first place, he’s track record shows how bad he is and the guy is just way too negative, The amount of games we are ahead and them decide to sit back rather push on and take the game to the opposition is just shocking. I dont get what everyone sees in Pardew and why he should be giving more time? how much time should he be given?

  • 372 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Pathetic Arsenal fans want Wenger sacked because Mbiwa might be coming to us. What a bunch of spoilt brats.

  • 373 GeordieToon89 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    GAZ09 – I’ve never even mentioned anything to you about Pardew whyyy you saying that to me ha I only asked why would Pardew go sledging in reply to an earlier comment

  • 374 MAUTITOON // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    useless to invest now,cause no matter what we do,we are doomed to go into championship and for sure down another league the another season.its all over now,there is not a single game that we will win from now on.we have already what’s the use signing new players and having to lose them all once we are relegated.neither cabaye,krul,taylors,benny,marveaux,anita,cisse,tiote,obertan,debuchy can save us now even if week in and week out they come out pointing out how much determined they are to get us out of this crap with the likes of santon,perch,williamson and ameaba stating so.but where were all of them yesterday against reading?weren,t they supposed to stop our slump,weren,t they determined to do well in that game?what happened eventually?it’s all over now,carry on with what we HAve till we are relegated and after that cash in with the best players that we haveand thus we’ll have the books balanced to the delight of our owner,afterwhich he could sell the club to anyone that matters.its the end of the history of one of the greatest club in uk,buti’m going down with the club together.can’t imaginee liife without newcastle united.i always said;forward we march my toon army,for valor,but my team has let me down this time.with this i,m expectting the whole blog too start bashing me, but afterall who cares when you have being hurt so much…
    tooon till my last breath

  • 375 GAZ09 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Sorry Geordie toon89, that was for comment 366 my apologies!

  • 376 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Gaz….If we’re talking about why he was hired in the first place, then I agree 100%. I didn’t want him, but he did win me over. I think he and the team did a great job last year and he should have been given what he wanted, which was not unreasonable and been allowed to show if he can replicate it or not, find it completely unreasonable to judge anyone based on the hand he’s been dealt this season, not that he is above any criticism – no one is.

    Right guys, I am off. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

  • 377 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM


    Pardew thinks a team should be able to shut up shop at 1-0 and see a match out.

    Dangerous tactics. Brilliant if your team can do it in terms of points. Not so entertaining for fans.

  • 378 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    laurent blanc is a no brainer, fantastic record, knows the EPL, young, great contacts, widely respected, currently unattached

  • 379 beddersmag // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Have not been on blog much since yesterday whats the general feeling are we now accepting that we are deep in it? Didnt want to be a doom merchant but i bet my mate we would go down at the start of dec. Just didnt see many fixtures we could win through dec then assumed we would be so low on confidence and momentum by the time we got to the ‘easy’ games that we would lose them too. Doesnt make me feel any better but thats whats happening. I planned to bet £100 at 15-1 with a online match bet which would have meant i stood to make 3k should they go down. The idea was i would have a silver lining if the worst happened but i didnt have the money to lay down as i had to buy the bairns xmas presents :-) Anyway, my point is im now facing up to a double whammy of relegation and ‘losing’ 3k if we go down. Great

  • 380 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Rotondo Blanc may be a good move but I can’t see them appointing someone not born within spitting distance of London.

  • 381 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM


    that team would be sensational

  • 382 Rotonda heights // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:19 PM


    sadly probably not, but i’ve always thought we need a continental manager

  • 383 Toon1978 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Rotonda heights

    It would be an awesome team but we probably won’t see it lol.

  • 384 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    If we got nothing at villa where do we go from there???????


    zero points from villa. and no matter who we sign, we are playing in the championship for certain. nothing less than 3 points that game.

  • 385 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Can’t see the dastardly duo coping with that.

    They won’t be able to control his mouth like they do Pardew. They really have Pards by the nuts. He can’t squeak a word of dissatisfaction about the board.

  • 386 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Bedders we are in the 5hit with three tough games next.

  • 387 nick_9 // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Anyone notice the Manchester United players are wearing the same colour boots? Might be sponsorship but I guess it’s to do with the snow and gaining an edge with visibility.

  • 388 Twatter // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Laurent Blanc is never going to come here to work under Mike Ashley. Get real. You need your head checked if you think that would ever happen.

  • 389 Banjo // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Doesn’t Ben Arfa have problems with Blanc? with Nasri also involved i seem to remember

  • 390 iggystinger // Jan 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    It doesnt matter what players come in pardew canny seem to motivate the players and new players wont make a difference cos he,ll play the same tactics and make the same mistakes time snd time again dont get me wrong he had a brilliant season last year but only 2 wins out the last 18 im sorry but any other manager would be out the door we need to change before its to late

  • 391 Ian Toon // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Whether Coloccini stays or goes we need more leadership from the captain. I would favour Cabaye taking over the Captaincy because he is by far our most respected and influential player. We created enough chances yesterday to win comfortably and need to convert delivery into the box. Particularly the superb Debuchy cross. Why not
    buy Bent he is lazy but has excellent positional sense which has been lacking of late in Cisse’s play. Once we start eliminating basic defensive mistakes( Williamson) yesterday we will start picking up points home and away. Norwich, QPR ,Reading, Villa, Southampton and Sunderland should all finish below us.

  • 392 gaz 44 // Jan 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    heard we’ve been scouting this Roman allesandrjni from rennes and looks like he scored today

  • 393 Talentet // Jan 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

  • 394 remember69 // Jan 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Any true fan would applaud AP for not risking such an important player, and understand how BOOING the team might NOT help their performance.
    I really don’t understand human nature some time. Best fans in the world? Ca we really say that if we do not support our team?

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