We had reported last Saturday that Newcastle were interested in Bordeuax striker Yoan Gouffran, but there are reports in France today, that Newcastle’s cheeky bid for the striker has been rejected.
Yoan Gouffran – measly €750K bid turned down – Bordeaux want €1M
Reports in France say that Newcastle’s bid of around €750K bid for the 26 year-old striker had been turned down flatly by Bordeaux – and there’s nothing like bidding big money to replace Demba Ba – is there?
But the bid tells us that Newcastle may not be able to get a decent striker over the line before the transfer window ends in 11 days time – and certainly the loss of Loic Remy to QPR is proving to be a big blow.
But the French reports say that Bordeaux want just €1M for their striker - about £820K – so just just how good a striker can this player be for that money – after we bid around €10M for Loic Remy?
What was that about Newcastle bring cheapskates?
So even if Yoan comes in he’s likely to be only a stop gap striker for the club, until the summer arrives when more top players should be available.
That’s what happens when you lose your top striker in early January, and then manage to get outbid for your top target a week later by a small club in London – and Newcastle may find it difficult to get somebody decent through the door before February rolls around – but why not go after Geordie boy Danny Graham?
Is he too expensive?
Gouffran joined Bordeaux from Caen in 2008 and has played 22 times for the French U21 side - and has some pace and skill either on the wing or as a striker.
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304 responses so far ↓
1 Wayayman // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM
NUFC in ‘too tight’ shocker. Same old, same old. Wasn’t this on twitter yesterday?
2 Wayayman // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:16 PM
The Butland deal (if true) is interesting as there’s no way Krul would stay if we went down, and Elliot is not good enough, Harps past it.
3 ToonMauritius // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:17 PM
hi lads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvRDvMS_Zoo
toonLYF ,
is this player you are talking about
4 ToonBano // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:17 PM
What an absolute joke.
How can you have a bid rejected for a player worth £800k? Its like they want it to be rejected so they can just say that they tried. Derek Llambias is an absolute joker.
If we genuinely want this player, than offer £800k, keep it quiet, sign him up.
It’s beyond a joke how our football club is ran.
JOKERS!!!!!! Get out!!!!
5 lesh // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:19 PM
A cheeky bid indeed and we’ve got to face the fact that as we’ve dug ourselves into a hole by selling a striker without havingbought a replacement in advance of Ba’s departure! As a result, it’s a sellers’ maerket and we need to pay what the market dictates.
Even a stop-gap at £1m is better than what we;ve got so the sooner that MA and DL realise that we aint got the time to be pi$$ing about the better
6 Thump // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Last page: “For that price I’d have him!”
This page: “F SAKES ASHLEY SPEND SPEND SPEND!”
Shy boys get nowt, lads.
7 tiotely footy mad // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Plain and simple, people are slating Gouffran about how good of a player is he for what hes worth, i see nothing wrong with the cheeky bid as it seems sensible to add someone who has europa league experience and would do a job until the summer, and how many of you have even seen him play, or is this another case of jump on the bandwagon when someone says someones shit, if the deal happens then so be it but if not, diame or sissoko is a must and danny graham or gary hooper (preferably) as celtic claim every player has a price and then assess the options in the summer
8 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:24 PM
ToonMauritius…
yes mate, and how unbelievable is he in that video?
9 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:25 PM
He might not be the perfect replacement, but he is certainly an improvement. If we signed Danny Graham, it would be more than 5 times the price, plus he would also be a stop gap till the summer, and doesn’t offer the extra wing option.
Scored 11 more goals than Remy this season….. I think the deal will be done here, let’s leave the pitchforks for now gents, and see what the next 11 days bring
10 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:25 PM
Ashley made his money by acquiring assets for bargain basement prices, then increasing their value. He’s obviously trying to do the same at Newcastle. At least with the Debuchy signing, he understands that football can’t always be that simple. Or perhaps he understands that the overall value of the club would be radically reduced if we get relegated.
So much negativity though. We are not running out of options, just because a first offer was refused!
Ashley will continue to get the best deal possible for Newcastle United, which will increase the money that we have to spend on other things. Simple!
11 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:25 PM
Gouffran’s contract expires in the summer,that’s why we put such a low bid in.
12 Oleg G // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:27 PM
I don’t get it. There are so many strikers. We need one. A fast one, skillful, creative.
Put a 10-15M and buy one.
It’s not a question of – do we really need?
But – do we really want to go down?
13 jammylambo // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:28 PM
i think raising our bid by the £150k they wank is fair enough you have to take into consideration that yeah he can leave for free in the summer , but hes already scored 12 goals in 25 apearances for them this season.
from bordeux perspective what is 700k in transfer fees compared to competition prize money for their final position in the league?
14 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:28 PM
to be fair, i hardly think this is being tight, you often offer lower than the valuation as if they accept, then great, you have a bargain, if not, then you can increase the bid
15 Markaccus // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:29 PM
He’s only cheap because he’s only got 6 months left on his contract, not neceserily because he’s cr@p. Already bargain basement price and lamb and mash still want a discount.
16 naptoon // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM
if we bought him id hope for another striker to be brought in the reason hes so cheap is 6mths left on contract. id see him as lovermans replacement from the summer nd id be even more pissed at the board if bas replacement didnt come … dunno got a funny feeling we still mite get pea … feck nos why tho … nd b4 anyone says i dont believe for 1 min man city or utd are interested no matter what the player says.
17 Hatem // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Rather hace Gouffran over Graham, the latter is the same as Cisse except he knows the offside rule.
18 WesJameson // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:33 PM
It is so sad to see what the hell has happened to this once vibrant and glorious football club!!
I know people have always had a good chuckle at our expense, but this is utter bullshite FFS, i’m sorry but we sell Carol for 35 million, now we aren’t willing to spend 1 million on a player
Like i said, in my 20 plus years supporting the Toon, i have never been so bleak for so long, that includes, what i would say, as possibly the luckiest 5th place finish of all time
God, where is Ginola, Shearer, Speed, Nobby, Ketsbai, Beardsley, Clarke, Asprilla, Robert…
Please FFS someone save us
19 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM
I do not want to go back to the dark old days of paying loads of money for a player who isn’t worth it, it just harms the club long-term, which is why we got in the smelly stuff with our finances.
We shouldn’t be paying £10-15M for a 28 year old striker who scores a few goals and then goes for free or a fre million in a couple of years time. If the scouts and the rest are doing their job properly, we should be signing sensibly but well. Pretty much every signing in the last 3 years has gone up in value.
20 Jakenufc // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Ed makes it sound as if newcastle have given up with this one. €1mil is an absolute bargain for this player seing as hes already scored 10 this season. They will just up the fee a little more. This guys a winner.
21 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM
I think it’s a pretty shrewd move,he could still sign a new contract with Bordeaux,offer 1m,at least they’ll get some money back for him rather than going for nothing in the summer,if he fancies the move we get him now for 1mil.
22 ToonMauritius // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM
toonLYF
surely very talented, is he from UAE and where does he play?
If he plays in his native land, he will be surely on a high salary, better than here
23 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM
On M’biwa…
He would be the signing of the window. He is absolutely immense, along with Raphael Varane i’d say he is one of the best centre back prospects in Europe.
He is so good technically, you could see him being a terrific midfielder aswell; but his incredible maturity and knowledge of the game gives him a rare edge over other young centre backs. Special player i reckon.
As said before, £6m or so for him is an absolute steal!
…haven’t been this excited at the prospect of potentially signing a player for a long time. (although i’ll try my best to stay grounded until he’s got his hands on the black and white top!)
I followed the Montpellier story as they went from finishing 14th one season, to being crowned champions the next, and he was the most important character in the team. He drives out from the back like no other centre back i have ever seen and turns into a flair player almost, it’s insane! Changes games with his forward thinking and determination, a fabulous leader, and would be Coloccini’s replacement as captain once he’s settled (although Cabaye would also be good).
Please don’t f*** this up NUFC!
24 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM
1mill and they can have Ranger.
25 magpie6699 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM
More bothered about a CB. Is Magpie Django-Monty good? Some sites saying he’ll sign today, others that Arsenal are trying to hijack it. Any ideas?
26 magpie6699 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:38 PM
toonLYF – you’ve answered the first question, I think – is he any good?
27 JAMSHA // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:38 PM
JUST BID 1MIL.U FKN M.A……THATS THE BEST DEAL U COULD GET FOR A GOOD PLAYER
28 geordie157 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:38 PM
1 mill, get it done. He’s decent and gives us a better option than Sammy off the bench.
29 ToonDarnSarf // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM
WesJameson – football has changed mate! Money talks now, and the top clubs have excellent players sitting on the bench. Some of the players you mention would probably be getting paid £100k+ per week for Man City these days…
It was the spending after that era that has put us in trouble. Marcelino, Boumsong, Andersson, Maric, Smith, Viana…just a short list of players that cost a lot more in transfer fees/wages than they actually deserved based on their performances.
30 naptoon // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM
i would see this lad as lovermans replacement from the summer not bas … rather i would be pissed if its bas but hes better than what weve got. still got a funny feeling we mite get pea … feck nos why tho … b4 anyone says i dont believe for 1 min man city or utd are interested no matter what the player says
31 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM
ToonMauritius…
he’s born in Saudi Arabia, but has UAE citizenship, and has had from a fairly young age after being picked up for his skills.
He plays for Al-Ain in the UAE pro-league, so you’re right, his wages will be good. However, you’d like to think a player of that class will soon want to test his undoubted skill against players of a similar calibre. Many teams in Europe will be to match his wages, and offer him CL football, so i’ll certainly be keeping a close eye on his status as saying he’s one to watch, is probably the biggest understatement i’ll ever make.
32 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Anita – They said if we include Ranger the deal is £3million
33 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Could be worth signing Gouffran and Gameiro on loan and then go for Benteke in the summer if Villa get relegated. It could be similar to a Ba scenario.
34 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Kets – this is presuming we’re not relegated with them right?
Just making sure…
35 naptoon // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM
see this lad as lovermans replacement from the summer not bas … rather id be well pi55ed if it was. still got a funny feeling we mite get pea … fek knows why tho … nd b4 anyone says i dont believe for 1 min man city or utd are interested no matter what the player says
36 Markaccus // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM
… Would that mean benteke would eff off to chelski after a season and a half!?
37 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM
magpie6699…
he’s quality, through and through. A true professional, and an honest player. He’s got it all, literally.
Never been so sure that a player will become world class, than i am with him. (a word which i think he thrown around too freely nowadays) than i am with him.
38 geordiesteve520 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:48 PM
I have a feeling we may already have agreed personal terms and that this player is arriving in July and the club are offering a ‘nominal’ fee to bring him now. Don’t shout at me for being optimistic.
39 q8igeordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Toonlyf .. ive seen him play alot as they were just crowned gcc champions … best player by some distance .. deserves to be playing abroad… although I hate to say it .. they thrashed us in the semifinals
40 Wayayman // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:51 PM
We need Gourcuff, not Gouffran. Wishful thinking…
So, I’ve on a positive tip now. The negativity from last weeks debacle has got to stop cos it ruined my week and the game on Sat ruined my weekend. So, i’ll be delighted IF we can sign M’biwa today. Stunned if we get Sissokho and in St Nick’s mental hospital with delirium if we got a proven striker in too. Not Bent though, he’d send me to St Nicks for the wrong reasons.
41 Scottiedog // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Did they bid in Euro’s or Pounds??? If they are looking for 1 million Euro’s and we bid £750k then that is about right in currency conversion
42 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Right lets get him Mbiwa, Haidira, Sissoko and Thauvin over from France
French job done for the season
Get Danny Graham in as well so thats 6 players but we need them
43 toonluvva // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:54 PM
MA / DL just haave no idea do they. A “cheeky” bid of £3/4m? Hopefully we’ll stump up the rest and have get him on board asap.
This time if the bid is accepted fly him direct to Newcastle for a medical and to agree terms. No faffing around giving other teams to swoop.
I hope that we can strengthen our squad in January as I fear we will be losing players come the summer. Unfortunately the deadwood will remain, and I include LLamearse in that.
44 Wayayman // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM
@Scottiegog No, we bid in Turkish Lira. That’s about 36p.
Not convinced this guys is any good to be honest. Anyone remember him from the first leg against us? No, me neither…
45 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Probably, but it’s better than nothing and we’d probably get a lot more than £7.5m. If we can get these 5 players in this month, we’ll just need about 3 or 4 players in the summer. We can then afford to release the trounce.
46 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Stop F***in’ about and get them in
47 lordy_geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:57 PM
maybe reason he is cheap is because his contract is up in the summer. Why should it be bad paying 1m for a player? If he is good enough thts all that matters. How much did Arsenal pay for mr Henry? enough said¡
48 ToonAndy // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM
DEBUCHY – 5 mill
BELHANDA – 8.5 mill
SIEM DE JONG – 9 mill
MIBWA – 6.5 mill
SISSISKO – 3 mill
-32 mill
OUT
BA – 7 mill
Simpson – 2 mill
Ranger 1 mill
-10 mill
Net spend – 22 mill
————————-KRUL———————-
DEBUCHY—MBWIA—COLLO—SANTON
————–SISSISKO—–CABAYE————
BEN ARFA—SIEM DE JONG–BELHANDA
————————–CISSE———————-
22 mill for a top 5 team… Pull your finger out Ashley!
49 Markaccus // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Bent is another mercenary. Already played for the scum and effed off for a payday. His form sucks too. I can’t see him being of any use to us. Cisse will get his form back, so wide support for him is what we need, imho.
50 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM
wayaman
people can have bad games…he has a good goal return this year too.
51 jammylambo // Jan 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM
hes scored 12 goals in 25 appearances this season
remy scored 1 in 10
which one is valued at 1mill again?
52 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM
i’d go as far as saying he looks the best central attacking midfielder prospect since Zidane’s early days… going by his awareness, his ability to change the tempo of the game, his physical attributes such as his strength and pace. His immaculate ball control, and unerring vision
53 Markaccus // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM
1m euros is 820K pounds. We bid 750K euros. Which is probably about 600K? Pounds. We are insulting to other teams sometimes
54 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM
toonlyf
any ideas on wages and what fee he would request?
55 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM
markaccus
worth a go in my opinion…providing a follow up bade is made very quickly.
56 Toon Tang // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM
just give them the million ashley you turd. hes probs got a million wedged down his sofa the tight fisted tit
57 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM
bid
58 nightfa11 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM
ToonAndy
why would u take marveaux out of the side?
59 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM
He might not be remy but for 1mil he’s a bargain. Why do people think we have to spend loads to get good players….michu cost 2mil. He may well be a flop but at only 1 mil we wont lose any money on him and tbh he MUST be better than obertan.
60 hugotoon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Been reading the blog for a while and think most people on here talk a lot of sense. The club is crying out for an owner and general management that is more ambitious than balancing the books and maintaining a mid table premier league position. This lack of ambition is the reason that we find ourselves in this pretty Goddam scary position. I still cannot understand why significant investment was not made last summer. As a businessman Mike Ashley surely knows it is necessary to speculate to accumulate, if he had invested £20-£30 million last summer in a new rb, cb, two cm’s, a lw and a st using Graham Carr’s expertise I honestly believe we would have qualified for the Champions League this season. The investment being made this window is simply investment that has been delayed 6 months. Add to that we are now struggling to attract talent and I am now resigned to losing Ben Arfa and Cabaye in the summer.
If we had strengthened properly in the summer, just look at Stoke when they qualified for the Europa League, they bought about ten new players in to bulk up their squad, then the team would have not been so fatigued and it is highly probable that Cabaye and certainly Ben Arfa would’nt have been injured. When September 1st arrived and we had signed one new first team player I was stunned.
Finally management should have forced Pardew into playing 433, not the rusting 442. I was lucky enough to see WestBrom vs Newcastle, in a 433 formation last season when our front three absolutely shredded their defence, it was one of the most brutal attacking displays I have seen from Newcastle. Ba the mercenary should not have been appeased, the team is always more important than one player and with him playing right wing we were a better team.
I understand that hindsight is a pretty useful thing but it cant be disputed the board screwed up last summer, now they have to redeem themselves. Lets just hope we can get some significant players i.e. Mbiwa, Sissoko a pacy striker/winger at least in to secure our survival, and don’t let them walk off to London once a medical is booked, put them in Ashley’s bloody helicopter! Oh and if we dont get 3 points at Villa Park, Pardew has got to go.
61 ToonAndy // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Nightfall11 – because Siem De Jong and Belhanda are better
62 Mancgeordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Mbwia would be an immense signing but is very similar style of defender to colo are we still in for mirin as well? Gouffran for less than a million is a bargain and I can’t believe people complain and say they wouldn’t want Bent proven prem goalscorer can play up top on his backing up cisse? Also imagine if we did get Bent an he bagged a winner in the derby?
63 IFC.Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Who said anything about signing belhanda ? Surely out of our league…. F*****g quality though
64 IFC.Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Surely belhanda is out of our league ? An immense talent though
65 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Transfer Sage…
I never really believe alleged wages of players, so i wouldn’t like to say, but Al Ain are a wealthy team, and he’s their best player by far, so it’ll be alot. Lets just say more than any Newcastle player is currently being paid – most likely.
Apparently after the olympics he was talking to City, but opted to go back to the UAE.
66 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Tw@tter story coming out from @GFNFrance that Arsenal have had a late bid for Mbiwa accepted, player has agreed terms with NUFC, but nothing is signed. Up to player.
Could be a load of twoddle, who knows.
67 jimmyxavi // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM
I have a question..
I have been asked by some lads at uni, would I be happy as an englishman and a NUFC fan if our starting 11 didn’t contain an english player? We are linked to another 5 french based players and apparently regenerating our youth squad with European players.
I’m not really sure, obviously I would prefer a few young English players such as Zaha, or Redmond but they cost so much money! I know we have Adam Campbell as our next “Shearer” but do you think if we keep buying from abroad and not giving him a shot we will hamper his development?
68 hatem786 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21106227
69 mattnufc // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:15 PM
I wouldn’t mind this player as back up to Cisse as long as we get a quality left winger.
70 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Earlier in the day same people tweeted deal was done subject to medical, so who knows!!
71 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:15 PM
@GFN_France: DONE DEAL: We now have enough information to tell you that, subject to a medical, Yanga-#MBiwa has signed for #NUFC for €7.5m from #MHSC!
72 Toonfan8 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM
ToonAndy
that team would be cracking
I would love to see double swoop Mbiwa, Belhanda…Gouffran for 1mil is a must, better than Obertan,Jonas,Sammy…Sissokho for 3,5 is must too…
so in january window Mbiwa,Gouffran,Sissokho,Haidara and maybee Belhanda…and in summer go for De Jong…
Debuchy,Mbiwa,Colo,Santon
……Tiote……Sissokho……
Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Belhanda
……….Cisse………
and still have options on the bench
defense—S.Taylor,Haidara,Perch,Williamson,Simspon
mid—-Anita,Marveaux,Gouffran,Obertan,Jonas,Perch,Bigi
attack—Gouffran,Shola
73 roshan MAGPIE // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM
http://thespectatorsview.com/2013/01/21/former-toon-target-slices-his-arm-open-video/
comments please
74 CapColo // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM
GFNFrance ?@GFN_France
DONE DEAL: We now have enough information to tell you that, subject to a medical, Yanga-#MBiwa has signed for #NUFC for €7.5m from #MHSC!
75 Crow59 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Having one of my daily debates earlier with a friend (journalist and west ham supporter) they described have infuriated they used to be with Pardews lack of tactics and ability to read whats needed in a game. Obviously not being a Newcastle fan they were unsure on why we are venting our frustrations at him but clarified that the problems we are experiencing used to boil theyre piss when at West Ham -
Unwilling to drop his favourite players, even if played out of position.
Poor tactical substitutions that are obvious to both crowd and players.
Selecting formations that dont fit the teams best playing style.
Sound familiar???
I just laughed and said youve no idea of the similarities and in my eyes (longtime pardew fan) its time to go. If he was in any other team he would have been given his marching orders by now. Its all the better as my friend is female and then went on to describe how his lips are the same colour as the rest of his body and she bets he has a pale bellend hahaha not the one on his forehead
76 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM
toonlyf
I know they are wealthy but do they pay local players the same high wages they pay big name imports from around the world?
Just wondered if he might be on 20/30k a week? and they save the 100+ for the gyans, etc that join the league
77 Markaccus // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Haha @toon tang. He’s probably got it wedged in his considerably large @rse crack!
Tsage, I’m expecting the follow up bid, it matches ashleys form to put a low bid in first. Bet it won’t be the full Million though. 900K euros max.
78 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Torq – Since that they have said Arsenal have launched a bid and it is up to player now, but they expect him to still join NUFC
79 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM
still no shirt on
80 sirtoongospel // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM
The value of a player is matter less. BA was free, luque was 9 million!! If a player comes in then they should be supported and judged on performances in our shirt.
10 goals this season in an average team. For the money could be a terrific squad player and would help till the summer. There are a lot of top strikers around, but how many want to sell in January? Apart from our owner who seems to love selling strikers in January!!!
We need to do the best we can this window, and then add more in the Summer. But in fairness, the players we are chasing are all good. The board seem to have understood a few things, I just wish that they would come out and admit that they are learning all the time, that the manager is working in a difficult environment and that if we are patient we will be rewarded. Our PR leaves so much to be desired. But the whole club could be brilliant from top to bottom if they just opened up a little.
81 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Roshan – I love it!! Not that he cut his arm – but that he showed full blow passion for his club. Devastated by the defeat and with him being carded – hampered his club. It’s a shame we never got this lad in my opinion – pure passion that lad.
82 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Lilongwe Geordie
He’s blatantly going to arsenal apparently the medical for us isnt happening until tomorrow arsenal have loads of time to change his mind. Why bid for a player and then take 4 days to get him over to have a medical…ridiculous.
83 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Lilongwe – Fingers crossed mate!
84 Mancgeordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Haidera, mbwia, mirin (if colo goes), sissoko, gouffran (let jonas go) and bent that would change our fortune be like a ligue 1 star side
85 Ian Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM
jimmy- it’s not a question of nationality. It’s a question of quality. Two Englishman, Simpson and Williamson have cost us dearly. I would love to sign Tom Ince but at around £ 7 million you can understand why better flash the cash clubs than us are balking at the very idea. Liverpool inflated the home produced market and they caught a cold. We’re buying quality to create competition as well as
improving the starting team. Pardew has the say on who he wants to bring in and posters suggesting otherwise really are fantasists.
86 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM
more pi55 taking to suffer watch out heres alf
87 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Tekkers – I believe though (from France side) that once terms have been agreed with the player – he can only liase with another club should be back out, or he fail his medical.
I’m positive on this one – but until he’s outside Benton waving a shirt in the air – I won’t believe anything!
88 Daley_Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM
GET MBIWA SIGNED ALREADY! I CANT TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS!!
sorry. after remy fell through, we cant have that happen again. However i’m sure that its being reported that the deal is all done, just need medical done? the arsenal interest is false too, and even if it isn’t, they haven’t had a bid accepted.
89 JAMSHA // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21106227
MBIWA TO HAVE MEDICAL
90 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:27 PM
With all this talk of Mbiwa, what is happening with Haidara?? Is he in talks, having a medical? It seems to have gone deathly quiet on that front!
Still no word on Colo either?
91 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:27 PM
lets have this guy in offer willamson and shola
Virgil van Dijk
92 wingspan // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM
GFNFrance?@GFN_France
DONE DEAL: We now have enough information to tell you that, subject to a medical, Yanga-#MBiwa has signed for #NUFC for €7.5m from #MHSC!
Anybody know how reliable these guys are? Personally i dont believe anything until its on the official site but interested what there past record is like
93 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:29 PM
john tudor
do you offer anything other than one line insults towards the club?
do you not want to engage in debate with everyone else?
94 Talentet // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM
DONE DEAL: We now have enough information to tell you that, subject to a medical, Yanga-#MBiwa has signed for #NUFC for €7.5m from #MHSC!
Just waiting for the hijacking..
95 fray bentos // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM
Taking Marveaux off was a shocking decision
I’m going to stop defending pardew on here, I’ve never thought he was amazing, i think he’s half decent manager who seems to excel at parts of his job but is lacking others, I always thought that given time time in the top league he might mature into a better manager, but the performance on Saturday has changed my view. Before we scored we were by far the better side and then after it was just blatant negativity in my opinion, he can grow but that negative attitude will likely never change.
I don’t think our situation is just down to him, I believe that there has been some sort of dressing up disruption down to the lack of signings in the summer and he has also been unlucky with injuries, are squad is massively overhyped by many on here and I don’t think he is clueless but the negativity exists and in the long term that will never make us win anything
I don’t believe he should be sacked now and I’m not sure if we can attract anyone better, but ideally I would like to see him gone in the summer only if we can get someone who is guaranteed to be better. The problems at our club are largely down to Ashley and pardew is an easy scapegoat
96 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM
Hope you’re right Torq he may well have already signed the contract subject to a medical but after last week I think we are all desperate for some good news.
97 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM
i have no debate skills pls do not berate me as i do no harm to you they are opinions i have a right. what gives you the authority to police here. if you dont like it simply jog on
98 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM
and can you please highlight these 1 line insults sir
99 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Tekkers – Completely agree.
Also the fact that Haidara deal has gone quiet is a good thing – word is he has also agreed terms subject to medical – but as we ALL know on here – nothing is certain until official confirmation.
100 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM
GFNFrance ?@GFN_France
According to Mercato365, Newcastle are weighing up an offer for Thauvin.
101 Sazzer // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Watch Gouffran yesterday against PSG. I wasn’t impressed. However, his mind might be elsewhere. Tremoulinas, Saivet and Sane and other defender did well though. PSG was awful too.
102 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Tudor – I also have no debating skills – but surely you want to contribute to the discussion even slightly??
On another note – how are you feeling now? Better?
103 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM
john tudor
I’m not policing anything….just simply asking a question.
Thought you might get more enjoyment out of this site if you engaged with others and posted comments in a discussion and not just one liners in rambling nature.
No harm in you posting as you are…just thought you might prefer to engage
104 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM
and please get off your condesending high horse.
105 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM
@john tudor he asked a question. calm down love. you’ll do yourself an injury
106 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Get this lad in €1m isnt much for someone who knows where the net is and get mbiwa and sissoko in and that should see us get the points against villa.
107 Zangwill_Ho // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM
Can we bid P.Aubameyang again ? For example 10m. Can we?
108 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM
john…….theres one
John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM
more pi55 taking to suffer watch out heres alf
But you just generally comment a single sentence to have a pop at the club, the board, the manager, a player, etc
109 Crow59 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM
hahhhaa off topic but
http://bbcsporf.lockerdome.com/articles/105063023
110 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM
john
and there is another insult now aimed at me….seriously just get some control.
I simply asked if you would not rather just engage with other people.
111 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM
i have my opinions that the club is being raped by ashley i try to enter debates buti am slated for my views accused of being a makem. i sir am a very dissapointed fan and in my eyes, oneliners brighten the day.
112 Zebras4Life // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Haidara wants to go to Roma
113 BigKirky // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM
I would have thought that with the R€%¥ deal in mind, the club would make changes to the intial terms to prevent that happening again. Just hope no hitches occur with any of the future deals.
114 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Transfer Sage…
I wouldn’t like to say mate, i think it’s disgraceful is they’re paying Gyan more than Abdulrahman.
I think it’s quite likely that he will be on less than Gyan (and the likes of), but will be due a pay rise soon if they want to keep hold of him.
115 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM
Just read the story that we are trying to bring in FIVE players before the window closes????
Now why do I see that as a bit of a long shot???
116 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM
john
well thats fine…at least you explained your view….I have no problem with people hating ashley or pardew…or even loving either of those two.
Just much prefer to here people’s reasoning and not just a single line saying…’i hate them, sack them all’ or ‘i love them, leave them alone’
117 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM
that was merely people stating the obvious saying its just down to the medical any my opinion alf would be on shit hot saying we are failing to get players over the line anyways if the offend you just dont read them i rarely read yours as to be a sage you need an insight
118 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8420323?
119 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM
toonlyf
You get that in a lot of sports though, rugby, cricket, etc where local players get a basic wage and people pay well over the top for a ‘name’ who maybe is no better than the players on the basic wage.
Not sure how it works in that league so couldn’t comment myself. Think he would be worth a punt of is there no chance of us getting him?
120 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM
JB
5 players in 11 days it takes 5 days to get 1 on a plane.
121 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Tudor – You can’t do it can you? You can’t just be civil…!?
Were you actually unwell ? Or was it just a prank?
122 Thump // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Why are you so angry, John?
123 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:46 PM
eaststandgeordie1982
they have to do something special before the end of this window or the backlash will be massive.
Can’t see five coming in. no way, we faff about so much I’d be surprised if we get 1 complete
124 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:46 PM
well i have no more to say about it players come players go managers and owners too i pay my money like everyone else. we can speculate all we want on on here to no avail i have concluded that in my lifetime i have seen the pinnacle acheived and whilst these are in thats it . better than a oneliner but takes a age to type
125 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM
torq
Well I tried to get on…it just won’t happen.
And of course he wasn’t ill, he claimed to have a stent put in but was posting non stop all the time.
126 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:48 PM
my son was typing durr
127 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:49 PM
john tudor
your wife and son have the exact same typing style, and if you were unwell and had quite an import procedure the last thing on yours or your family’s minds would be to comment on the very newcastle blog you claimed to have caused this illness.
128 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Sage – I didn’t think so! It’s low – but everybody is different I guess. I doubted the immediate necessity to post on an NUFC football forum whilst your husband is unwell in hospital having a stent fitted.
Just bizarre…
129 ajcrawfs // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:51 PM
anyone know when the meeting with colo is due?
San Lorenzo seem to have gone a bit quiet recently
130 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Be careful boys, his wife will be on to tell you all off!
131 fray bentos // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:51 PM
He doesn’t offend in my opinion simply as i can’t read his posts
132 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:51 PM
JB
If 5 come in i will have a heart attack im like you i think we will only see 1 more
133 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM
as i said im not the debating type as for illness no im a lot better but as i said i am allowed to post what i want i have my own views if you disagree hey thats your purogative but do not accuse me of slating nufc off as in my eyes ashley llambsarse and pardew are not part of it nufc will still be here long after they are gone i only hope im still here
134 manxpie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM
People saying taking of marveaux was unforgivable he did it to push cabeye forward coz he looked like the only 1 that was gonna make something happen
Unfortunatley he got injured so had to come off so how is this terrible tactics its bad luck more than anytin
If cabeye had stayed on and set up or scpr
135 Rotonda heights // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM
I’m not a Pardew fan (no really!!) but have to admit I love the quality of the players we are being linked to now.
Maybe that’s down to Carr though. The tragedy with Pardew is that he does gets some stuff right, but rather like Bramble, there’s always a mistake in him.
I don’t know how we’ve done it but we have assembled some really cracking players.
Krul, Debuchy, Colo, Santon, Anita, Cabaye, Benny, Tiote, Cisse, Marveaux.
Who wouldn’t want to work with that lot?
136 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM
obviously as i dictated my thoughts to them
137 Sinner // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-zjVVDQ3-0
Lads, we’re signing this player. Can’t wait to see him in a black and white shirt.
138 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM
torq
i am usually quite embracing on this blog, and even enjoy chatting with people with opposite views like catchy and rotonda for a while. They often bring a different view but they do support it with a good argument a lot of the time.
Most of us make different views and I think most people are worth chatting too.
I defend people on here when they get a lot of stick for posting ‘out there’ or different views as I think it’s only right.
But some people who make things up and just generally spout nonsense then I have no time for.
139 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Tudor – Then try entering discussion about prospective signings etc rather than bring Pards and lambias into everything.
And cheer up man….life’s too short!
140 Wayayman // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM
C’mon lads. No need to bite. The bloke can post what he wants, when he wants. Just like everyone else.
Now, back to the important stuff; Who is this Hiadara bloke anyway and why do we think he’ll be any better than Fegie as back up? Or are we expecting a 20yr old to fit straight in and hit the ground running?
141 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Telepathy?,impressive.
142 manxpie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM
….:..scored there’d be no complaining so it’s way over the top IMO
143 fray bentos // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM
Don’t agree
Marveaux and Anita were quite simply the best players on the pitch that day up don’t take off the best performing players, we scored, we turned negative
144 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Manx – Fair enough, but why not bring someone on to attack, rather than another mdfielder who is more defensive minded then attacking? That is my issue. Taking Marveaux off was an error for me, Bringing Cabaye off was unfortunate, but as he was bringing off our remaining creative force an attack minded player needed to come on. That was the major problem in my eyes.
145 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM
john
Rubbish…people have better things to do than type up your thoughts on a newcastle blog when you are very unwell.
And your recovery time was sensational by the way.
I will simply say the way you type, the words you use, etc you are just some kid looking for attention and happy to make things up to suit your argument.
And NUFC is bigger than anyone player/manager etc….but if you don’t like it do something about it….contact a supporters group and see if anyone agrees and if so organise a protest to oust ashley or pardew.
146 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM
http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/french-starlet-thauvin-will-not-be-moving-to-arsenal-or-newcastle-this-month-insist-bastia-22655/?
147 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:00 PM
why enter into debates prospective signings. i forward a player we were linked with and got no response my opinion was not respected or was it because
148 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:00 PM
You say you were dictating to “them…” but you were in hospital when your wife was writing on here so you couldn’t have been dictating to her at that point surely. Plus she must’ve taken ages trawling through the previous nights blogs and articles to find your discussion with other bloggers?!
Howay man….let it go and accept that it wasn’t entirely true.
TS – Spot on. Not everybody agrees with everything on here – I’ve been told to p1$$ off and cash my giro several times as well as called a “trolling ITK” when I first mention we were in discussions with Yanga-Mbiwa – but the healthy debate with others on this blog, even if you don’t always agree, is what makes the blog so great.
149 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:00 PM
wayayman
Well sometimes people just need to hear the truth. I’m sure he wouldn’t sit in the stands or a pub and just repeat the same 3 lines over and over and not expect to be told to go away.
I mean I am all for different views but add something to the debate.
I think Hiadara would be a better prospect at LB than fergie for a few reasons
-more experience at top level
-not as light weight, important for a defender (need to compete in the air and out muscle people to some extent)
-fergie is better served as a winger, it’s where he plays for N.I.
150 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:00 PM
750 ficking K what! Just offer gouffran ‘s agent a coffee then tell him you can’t have milk or sugar tight twats !
151 fray bentos // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:02 PM
What was this lie? About being ill and a wife posting
It all sounds very amusing to me, why wold anybody get their wife and so to post on her for them? Haha what a joker
152 Rotonda heights // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:03 PM
manxpie.
it’s funny how after every match people talk like it was just that one game.
Now can you explain away the other only 21 points in 23 games played.
We were at home with almost a full complement against a recently promoted 2nd bottom club with the worst away record in all 4 divisions. We had Shola playing right wing against the oldest and slowest left back in the league, while Obertan was benched.
You can’t kid 50,000 paying public that that wasn’t a criminally defensive effort to protect a 1-0 goal lead, playing at home with 25 mins left to play instead of going for a second goal.
Sadly i think pardew has and always will have this flaw which statiscally over his career show he’s basically had 2.5 good seasons over 10+ years
.
153 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:03 PM
torq
I post a bit I hear myself, don’t get put off by people insulting me, just crack on for those who want to read.
A bit of rumour is always interesting, I think if people wanted purely facts then they could just read the official nufc site.
154 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:03 PM
TS – Recovery time was incredible – and that’s coming from a Cardiologist!
Anyway – moving on, Haidara over fergie is a tough one. I like fergie but see him as more an understudy to santon in a more advanced role. He is very adaptable and can play either but GC seems to be covering all bases. Haidara could well take a while to settle in – but they said that abou Cisse and he did ok in his first half season. He will come good I’m sure of that.
155 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM
a kid born in 1954 as for the kid posting for me well they do anything for there old man they typed word for word what i asked them to type and the recovery time for having a stent fitted to someone relativly healthy is not long i am told
156 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM
on
Virgil van Dijk
I don’t know enough about him to comment, haven’t seen him play but with teams like brighton after him is he the level we need?
157 Ian Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Transfer- If this man is around the same age as the John Tudor why does it follow that he is manufacturing a medical history. Or is he just an attention seeker who is seeking to play the guilt card? I speak of age not because of having a stent fitted but his state of mind. Not everyone is as articulate as you and it’s far easier to express a negative viewpoint than an elaborate positive case which circumstances currently dictate. From a health perspective Mr. Tudor would have felt better once the stent was fitted and would likely be now on a cardio rehab programme. I have not chosen to engage with him because he doesn’t meet the BBC test. However, there are far more disagreeable types than him. At least I think so. Glad your
still making sense to me on football related matters.
158 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM
TS – on fergie as LW
Great minds….!
159 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM
john
give it a rest…we all know it was rubbish…you wanted some sympathy and for people to lay off you.
160 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM
Transfer Sage…
Sadly, no chance of getting him. Whilst he is not on alot of people’s radar’s, he is well documented in the footballing world, and clubs (big clubs) are aware that he could be something very special.
From what i’ve gathered from following him, is that he currently does not want to leave UAE. Family seems very very important to him, and it seems he is holding off any move until his family are ready to move with him.
…so i think by the time it gets to the point where he is ready to move (hopefully and most likely over the next 1-3 years), more and more clubs and fans will know about him, making him alot more acclaimed; and he deserves no other than a club that can surround him with world class players and allow him to play in the Champions League.
As for the wages thing, i really don’t know, i tend not to dabble with that side of the game too much, as i just can’t stand reading about the likes of your Gyan’s, Remy’s etc. etc. who are just looking to get paid, not showing an inch of respect for the sport that has made them as people. I find it disgusting.
161 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM
a laptop a 3 dongle of and by the way the internet has infiltrated hospitals you know
162 Ian Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Transfer- we were linked with at the back end of last season. Carr had watched a lot of his play and there was talk of him signing last summer.
163 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Ian
I just find it strange how somebody posts negative ramblings, gets some stick then the next day his wife posts on his behalf saying it has made him unwell, we should all be ashamed of ourselves etc
Then later in the day his son types on his behalf and then he is back.
surely when you are that ill and need some for of medical help you wouldn’t be overly concerned with posting on here.
164 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:08 PM
David Villa has requested a move this window according to a Catalan paper. Get him in!! ha!
165 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:08 PM
FFS
http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/bolton-wanderers-fc/1213856-newcastle-united-target-bolton-wanderers-striker-ngog.html?
166 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:08 PM
well blow me did brighton not stick it up us and could concievably take our place in pl
167 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:10 PM
john
It’s not that you couldn’t get on a computer…its more the why?
surely if this caused you a lot of stress the last thing you would do is go on the same site after your stent was fitted.
168 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:10 PM
If this snow keeps coming ashley will make us a striker 2 CBs a LB and a beast for the middle of the park with a pair of 99p gloves from sports direct bargin bin.
169 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:10 PM
Sissohko’s agents talking to QPR today, so thats another class player that’ll be taken from us because we dither so much and penny pinch
170 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:10 PM
ok ill leave it @ that but come the end of jan i will be be back im off to the pub now
171 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM
http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/offer-made-for-french-midfielder/
172 rainrix // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM
JB… Nothing to suggest we’re actually in for him calm down
173 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM
a pint is good for recovery
174 iggystinger // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM
Its a powerfull ,physical and pacey striker we need no another light weight we need presence up front
175 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM
John – Don’t forget your fake id mate!
176 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM
JB
I love your posts. True emotion…can you lend it to the players on saturday?
177 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:14 PM
torq
Have you heard anything on the gourffan story? any news we will increase our bid?
178 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:14 PM
“Nil Desperandum Illegitimi Carborundum” you lot certainly have not nor will the three stooges
179 Marty-Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Sinner
Did ya notice that Ben Arfa in that video was mainly playing on the left yet we play him on the right.
I reckon he and Santon on the left would cause more damage.
180 RooneyToons // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Where’s our lad in France these days??
It’s been that long I can’t remember his name
Could do with his imput on Gouffran, Mbiwa etc
181 iggystinger // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:15 PM
See cabaye says the fans should have booed him not pardew as he asked to come off v reading
182 Ian Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Transfer- Steady tiger. Recovery time from having a stent fitted is extremely quick depending of course on general state of health of the patient. He would have felt better almost immediately. It’s not about that issue it’s about his mental health and a feeling of isolation in my humble opinion.
183 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM
JB – According to reports he is speaking to QPR today, and then us on Wednesday. At least this time we will be able to know what he is offered and work our offer partly based on that.
You are like the blogs very own version of Newsnow at the minute with all the links!!
184 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM
@ torqtoon i have no need of fake id but a bit of advice dont put petrol on your cornflakes and remember always turn your trainset off before bed time
185 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM
TS – I think so mate. I think we will up the offer to €1mil but it appears the club were trying to bag a bargain as per usual. I think the article on Gouffran was a bit harsh and didn’t do much justice to the lad. No offence to Ed intended. But the lad has quality about him – and isn’t going to break the bank in terms of transfer fee or wages.
Not heard anymore – but will keep an ear out.
186 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM
Transfer
Wish I could mate, but my emotion comes from a deep rooted love for this club, something you rarely see from players these days as their motivation comes from money
187 Daley_Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:18 PM
Sky Sports News are amazing at getting their info from Twitter and passing it of as inside sources. Top work.
188 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:18 PM
Tudor – I’ll remember that !
Mines a pint if you are going…!
189 t00ntime // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM
If rumours are true sissoko is talking to 3clubs. 1 is QPR 1is newcastle dont know the third.
Apparantly lens wants to leave psv in the summer and we are favorites with wigan (atm) if we can get him in jan that wud be great. He plays LW+ST scored 12 in 21 (or there abouts) +has pace and skills
190 rainrix // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM
Iggy… Its not like anyone could have seen that cabaye was injured, he was running fine, just looked a little tired, Hindsights a wonderful thing
191 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM
Afternoon gents,
Stayed off the blog in recent times for the most part because it isn’t a nice place to be when NUFC aren’t doing well and also because I’d be called out as one of the “happy clappers” who got it wrong at the start of the season but instead of avoiding it I suppose we must face it head on.
Yes I, and others like me, got it massively wrong, we thought we had the quality in our squad to replicate last season’s PL performances and on that score we got it massively wrong.
But on reflection, I understand why Pards made the decision he made at the weekend, the only mistake he made was that he should have operated with the assumption that he may have needed to take Cabaye off, he should have waited to make his defensive substitution for another while longer and that substitution should have been Cabaye, even if he wasn’t feeling tight. Alas he tied his own hands by subbing Marv first therefore necessitating taking Cabaye off when he felt tight.
But do some on here consider that had we had better options on the bench, subbing Cabaye may not have been such a big deal, and do they agree that booing the team such as the fans in SJP did at the weekend was counter productive and may have aided in our downfall? I won’t put too much emphasis on that point but booing is certainly not beneficial.
Might I also add that if Cisse had bothered his backside to try and remember what his bloody job is i.e score goals!, then we would not have been in that situation, as much as I disliked Ba, he would have scored a hat trick on Saturday with that service.
We are in the mire, Pards made the wrong call at the weekend and has to take responsibility for it, but the board are the ones who have the power to prove once and for all whether Pards is the man to take us forward. They need to give him as full a deck as possible and if he still doesn’t cut it then remove him and move on.
Positive news on the transfer front but I won’t get excited until he is through the door, we’ve waited 2 years for a semi decent CB, if Colo leaves we’ll need another one. I hope that Mbiwa isn’t a replacement for Colo because that way we are no further forward. I don’t trust the board any more, this camel’s back has finally been broken but they can salvage our season, inasmuch as they can protect our PL survival but as for the future? They have lost any trust or respect from me as a fan and I was certainly one of the more tolerant of their escapades.
It is time for them to stand up and back the manager, it is time for us as fans to be rewarded with a team that deserves us. The board, manager and players will all come and go but we will always be Newcastle United!
Sorry for the rant!
192 Marty-Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM
Maybe our next manager will be “the special one” seeing he spent years with SBR
That’s a manager that’s got some quality although he likes to use lots of cash that’s not available here.
Would like to see him here and with Carr get a quality team together and take on the big Red nosed,time adding,complaining,gum chewing arrogant Scot
193 jimmysmith // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM
Why is taking Marv off so shocking when you’re one nil up and trying to secure a desperately needed victory by stiffening the midfield and Marv is not great at tracking back, lets face it.
Surely it only looks horrifying in hindsight because Cabs had to come off shortly after.
I think he ideally wants to take off Marv, push Cabs forward, then probably take off Shola for Oba, but Cabs gets a twinge and we’re f@cked.
Talk about a mob shining their boots on a fella when he’s down.
194 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM
Daley – completely agree !!
If its seen on twitter = utter rubbish
Same news on SSN = wholehearted truth!
195 manxpie // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM
The only other attacking player we had was ober who the same fans boo’d and groaned last year
So he’s our saviour all of a sudden?
The facts are the bench that we had available was shocking and has been most of the season and we all know who to blame for that
I’d rather the crowd continuously chanted buy us some faackin players ashley than boo the manager!
196 Thump // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM
@Torq: What’s this about Tudor being ill? Seems more a case of perpetual anger to me.
197 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM
JB
According to twitter sissoko’s agents are talking to QPR today but is meeting with TFC tomos and has told his agents/associates that were his prefered location fingers crossed!
On gouffran for under a mil seems a decent fee but not expecting too much most of the journos are touting him as a slight upgrade on obertan
198 Spreadthetoon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:21 PM
Devastated by the result at the weekend. I am not an advocate of AP but the club has made the choice to stand by him. So IMO the club now must BACK him in the transfer market. If they do not then they are a complete farce.
So I am not going to post posts about a view I have made very clear. I do not run the club, so I must support what the club believes to be best. So with Alan Pardew staying they must sign players in volume for the squad but also quality. I welcome Gouffran but I still VERY strongly believe that the board must land some REAL big marquee players……this is not the time to haggle or play brinkmanship! Sissoko is an absolute must as is Yanga Mbwia so the club MUST be competitive in their offering and not allow our club to be hijacked by QPR again. We are either in the market or NOT! Thauvin would be another AMAZING signing but we still need an out and out WORLD CLASS player……I’m not sure if Siem De Yong would fit the bill but at least he would be a VERY good start. AP has been at fault but so have the board, we don’t have the players on the BENCH to change a GAME! We need fighters and QUALITY….and NOW….not later.
199 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:21 PM
“It is time for them to stand up and back the manager, it is time for us as fans to be rewarded with a team that deserves us. The board, manager and players will all come and go but we will always be Newcastle United!”
Ruddy – Couldn’t have put it better myself mate! Welcome back!
200 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:22 PM
Lilongwe Geordie
we all know that we will not compete with QPR when it comes to wages as Remy proved. We will not sign/keep top class players when we pay second class wages.
there is the argument that we dodged a bullet with Remy choosing bigger wages with QPR but thats modern day football
201 Ian Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:22 PM
Thump- Another expert -LOL.
202 Thump // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:23 PM
@Ian Toon: I’ll have you know I’m the leading anger expert in the UK. I taught Craig Bellamy everything he knows
203 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Just popped back in to see what was going on, I’m going out again but before i do… you lot do make me laugh.
HWTL.
204 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Thump – Last week John Tudor had a rant about the club, Pards, lambias blah blah blah – all the usual crap, and by the sounds of it was well and truly put in his place. The following morning his “wife” came online stating that he was very unwell due the distress caused by a certain blogger (can’t remember who now…!) and how disgusting it was, how poorly he was etc. later that day his SON started chatting on here under his name – allegedly being dictated what to say – throughout the whole thing.
It’s all untrue mate – and just made Tudor look stupid to be honest. But as you can see, he’s not changed his ways and enjoys the attention. The problem is today he has been found out yet is still trying to carry on the debacle.
205 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Okay then…one more..
Thump…Wasn’t the Hulk your biggest client? You did well with bellamy, but the hulk for me is your prized work.
206 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Alreet lads,
Just looking through the articles of today, some positive noises in regards to recruitment.
I wouldn’t look too much into this, if it is true, then its more of a 3rd choice striker. And hopefully, they are aware we need one aswell as a replacement for Demba. I very much doubt this signing was in mind to replace Demba.
The work will be done lads, the faces will come in. How do i know? Because it simply has to.
Just read through some late articles from yesterday aswell, some excellent posts. Refreshing read.
Waiting for some positive news coming out of the club, exciting times indeed. I just wish we had of been working so hard in the summer when the work should of been done. We wouldn’t be in this situation if it had.
Noises being heard about Mbwia having a medical, i really do hope this is not a direct replacement for colo. if it is we need an upgrade on Williamson also.
207 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM
no problemo, i was genuinly ill my son and wife did post,, i have lots of friends, i like posting 1 liner, im a true genuine supporter not plastic, i have shocking taste in clothes i live in the 60/70s and i am desperate for nufc to get back to where we belong a decent top half side with a cup winning mentality , not the way we are being led now sorry to offend but like it or lump thats me ps i never had a problem with the other side of the fence but hey we shall see what we shall see
208 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Ibiza – Eager to please mate!
209 theroosta // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:26 PM
I have had a good old moan about the manager, i still feel he always tries to cover his own back and blame other aspects as he did on saturday yet again, it was his desisions that caused virttually every fan to voice their unsatisfactory opinion.
It is too much of a closesd shop concerning his favs at the toon, his ego an unwillingness to change his ways has cost us to the extent of us watching the worst football in the prem this season imo.
Of course we should have strengthened more to push forward in ths summer, but gey we hVe been moNing our tits off including me about Remy and a near 10 million deal thT aw got done on, i wonder how the boro who were sent down with us with super owner steve gibson are feelinv like when they hAve zero money loaning players from the likes of shrewsbury crewe etc its not all doom and vloom, we have done wonders in three years, we buggered up to move forward in the summer but, we can still move forward. If our manager stops his over cautious approach which is costing us terribly. We need a different train of thought, you have been found out ALan Pardew!!!!
210 rainrix // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Torq…. I also don’t believe that someone in there 50s would use words such as “rape” and “blow me”
Thats a free bit of evidence you can file into the “john Tudor is a child case”
211 Thump // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM
@Ibiza: I can’t take all the credit for Mr. Banner, after all he did have a very stressful job. Mr. Bellamy just had raw talent and a desire to use golf clubs in ways they weren’t intended to be used. Such a pleasure to work with.
@Torq: I… see. The internet gives me something new every day haha
212 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Rainrix – I’ll add that to “jog on” also!
213 Ian Toon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Torq- If you are a cardiologist you doubtless would appreciate that your not remotely qualified to offer a professional opinion on Mr Tudor’s state of mind. In my humble opinion. Please kindly stick to talking about football something you evidently do have knowledge of. Otherwise you might lose the credibility you have painstakingly established.
214 Thump // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM
@Tudor: In fairness, if you added something productive to the discussion rather than one liner throw aways, things like this would be easily avoided. You don’t have to debate, just put your opinion out in a relatively constructive term (ie: not “Shola is shite”) and then leave it at that.
Not having a go, just saying.
215 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM
John Tudor,
I witnessed the post from your wife.
I hope your doing well mate whatever the upset was.
216 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM
Torq
I didn’t abandon the blog like I used to do in blaze of glory of the past haha but I’ve been keeping a much more lower profile, nothing like eating a serious case of humble pie to quieten me down
I still back Pardew mind, and strongly think the board have serious questions to answer and yet time and time again they are leading Pardew to the cameras like a lamb to the slaughter and I just wonder how much more Pardew can take of it? Maybe he is echoing the shallow sentiments of the board but inside I believe he is as miffed as the rest of us that he has practically no options on the bench.
I mean Obertan was his only offensive option from the bench, as much as I think he has potential, he is certainly no game changer, especially in that atmosphere at the weekend.
Pards need to be allowed to sculpt a team we can trust and hopefully that process has begun with the signing of a genuinely class CB. We need a genuinely class ST and LW before my faith has been restored in this faltering side that lacks serious quality.
217 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM
We are fooked more so than the season we went down
218 catchy in norway // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM
any news on colo
been in meetings all day
have not had time to check around?
219 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM
You guy’s should respect the Tudor a bit more,bit of a local hero in his parts,he’s the guy the Viz creators based Finbarr Saunders on.
220 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM
Torq
Never mind him, he has a serious superiority complex, apparently he is the only one qualified to speak about a person’s state of mind.
Ian
Still see you’re perched on that high horse son
221 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:33 PM
ok if if you think im looking for sympathy you will look a right nonce if iwas to prove any of it
222 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:35 PM
John
No one can say 100% whether or not you are telling the truth or talking BS just as much as you cannot prove otherwise so why don’t we all let bygones be bygones, take what you’re saying at face value and get back to discussing the club?
If that’s alright with you Ian…
223 catchy in norway // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
if obertan was hi only offensive guy on the bench,, and there was nothing wrong with marv on the pitch,, why even take him off??
the guy is fit enough
for me it was the very thought of going defensive on 65 mins,
if it had of been 80 mins, then yeh maybe,, but 65 mins he invited pressure onto us
224 irish_mag // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Any news on today’s scheduled meeting with Colo?
225 iggystinger // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:38 PM
Thats what i meant we all thot he was just makin a normal sub with cabaye and then the reaction of the fans at least cabaye confirmed he was injured and wasnt pardew spoutin pish as usual lol
226 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:39 PM
Ian
I will just leave it with Tudor….nothing to be gained.
although going by your guidelines….are you qualified to talk about a persons mental state? you may be qualified i don’t know
227 Toon Tang // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:39 PM
somebody please bid on something,
228 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:39 PM
Ian – Amazing that you are the only one who has seen the issue for what it is. Well done. Who needs years and years of training hey??
Not sure it’s MY credibility that’s at stake here. But hey ho – lines have been drawn and its time to move on.
229 Toon Tang // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:39 PM
anything
230 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM
john
again…’nonce’ not the words used by a sensible middle aged man?
and what proof can you have oan you give here
231 Toon Tang // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM
im going to bid on something on ebay to settle my nerves
232 Zero // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM
Its weird how people seem so loyal to pards, looking to deflect the blame from him…its the board, its the injuries, it was the sun in the players eyes. I simply ask you all this why do you support a manager that has us on the worst run in our EPL history, a manager that seems to lack impetus at getting the team to scoring from corners, a manager that week in week out doesnt seem to know who his best 11 are and where they will play best…let alone play well together.
233 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM
Catchy,why aren’t you blaming Cisse for missing the 3 chances he had?,didn’t even hit the target with his best chance.If he’d have took at least 1 of those chances we might have won the game.
234 catchy in norway // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
one more thing
transfer news,, its positive when they sign,, news is just news, or should we say ooops we under cooked it again, we tried,, more excuses
235 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:41 PM
fine by me debate was not the toe rag ranger on the bench
far more productive knowing cabaye would never last out pulling off williamson go three at the back
236 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:41 PM
Sorry,4 chances.
237 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:41 PM
Ian
whats your views on the football from the weekend? I avoided this place on the weekend as you get far too many people just post “pardew out”. or “go away negger” etc
much rather have a discussion with people after the weekend when people have calmed and post some more reasoned stuff
238 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Catchy
Strangely enough, I agree with you, taking an offensive player off and putting a defensive player on the pitch could be regarded as a very negative move especially when there are 25mins left to play but as someone rightly suggested, perhaps the move was to allow Perch to drop deep and allow Cabaye to push further up the pitch to squeeze the Reading backline.
I remember when we played Man City at home towards the end of last season Mancini took Nasri off for De Jong and pushed Yaya Toure further up the pitch, whci effectively won the game for City.
Now I am not saying that Perch is the standard of De Jong, nor is Cabaye the standard of Yaya Toure but from a tactical stand point one could make the suggestion that this is what we were trying, we just simply couldn’t see it work as Cabaye got a twinge 9mins later which meant he had to take off his only other attack minded midfielder thus meaning we couldn’t create a damn.
Needless to say the decision backfired but to say that it was one that deserved to be booed is wrong in my opinion.
239 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:43 PM
TS – I’ve never heard a middle aged man use the words ‘nonce’ in open discussion before either.
Anybody see goal.com have reporter we have expressed interest in Danny Graham – yet they have no source and no quotes!
Easy lark this journalism business!
240 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:44 PM
nonce is in the dicionary perfectly suitable to use maybe a bit harsh there sorry still annoyed as everyone else as for proof i culd show wrist band but you would see real name and the game would be up
241 Transfer Sage // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:44 PM
catchy
I will agree with you that we went defensive way too early. Marvoux may not be as solid at the back as perch but he keeps the ball and uses it well which removes pressure from our defence.
Going defensive puts pressure on our defence which doesn’t help as williamson is very poor and cannot cope with the extra pressure…plus santon goes walk about and doesn’t do his primary job.
242 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:46 PM
too true but a manager get his message to him him and tells him to defend
243 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Torq/Sage
The guy simply comes on dictates to other posters about who is qualified to say what and who is worth listening to or who he respects in terms of their opinions but will offer practically nothing in the way of footballing discussion.
I imagine him to be a small man with a Napoleon complex, gets off on telling people what’s what.
244 Oldgit1 // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:48 PM
I’m resigned that we will not get any of our current transfers over the line, we should have got some players in the last transfer window, to get only Anita was a crime. We were in a far better position, I can’t blame AP too much it was obvious he was as gutted as the supporters were. I believe it is too little too late and put the full blame on MA and his cronies. He continues to annoy the hell out of me with all his so stupid decisions ie renaming the stadium, wonga, moving the singing section and not strengthing the team when needed. He thought he could purchase young kids but you still need experience, if collo goes we have no old heads in the team you can’t substitute old hands with inexperience kids.
245 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:48 PM
Marveaux is lazy,he’s been getting better the last few weeks,Pardew did it with Benny,if you don’t work hard for the team your not in the team.He would be my 1st choice to take off before Cabs and Anita who work hard to get back in position when we haven’t got the ball..
246 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:49 PM
nope offered an opinion and by your retort you are much the same
247 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:50 PM
Looking at the weaknesses from the weekend I think there is a lot to be said about the possibility of signing another LB, although Haidara is only 20 and would be a development player I think we would benefit from signing an accomplished LB that would force Santon to either up his defensive game or see himself benched/moved to LW.
Santon has been lauded as one of our best players this season and while he looked an attacking threat in our first 10/12 games he has never been able to defend and had he been where he should have been for the first goal i.e 5 yards closer to Kebe then perhaps the cross would have been blocked.
Santon is not a good defender, in fact he is a terrible defender and this needs to be addressed and quickly.
248 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:53 PM
as i offered apologies and i am still being slated it just shows to me that you have no consideration for other users you llambast anyone railroad them into corners i offer what i can when i can it so clear to me that some people are as ignorant as can be
249 catchy in norway // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
i said earlier, that there must have been some talk between cabaye and pardew , regards how long he would last, there must have been a doubt, he has just came back,,
so for me trying the yaya move would have been better with cabaye going off, knowing he would not last and moving marv up,,
at 90 mins we should have still had marv on the pitch, he is our most fully fit good attacking player behind both cabaye and HBA
and if pardew didnt think of that he is in the wrong job,,
and im not going to call anyone, but ppl are still making excuses for the guy even after he admitted he got it wrong,,
alarm bells must be ringing,, he was doing this last season and all of this season,, shutting up shop
last season we lost 11 games,, 9 of those games we let in 3 or more goals, when he tries to shut up shop, it goes wrong
250 Sazzer // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Gourffran and Thauvin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eiXk9teqaA
I guess we scouted this game.
251 catchy in norway // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:55 PM
MrMojoRisin76
what about jonas?? he stayed on,,
how about shola?? he stayed on marve gives you more than them 2
252 Spotlight Kid // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:55 PM
There will be no net capital spend in this transfer window, the derisory bids are simply subterfuge. There is a little bit still floating around from the AC windfall, which should have been spent long before now, and will be doubtless dressed up as new funds – but isn’t. The rules have been established by Ashley – and additional capital spending is not going to happen regardless of circumstances.
Remember also that Ashley now calculates long term wage costs as part of the purchase calculation, so unless we shift large wage burdens such as Xisco this isn’t going to change either.
Movement in will be met with movement out – but no club is yet biting on Simpson or Willo or any of the fringe players doubtless being touted around. Expect the 25% off any asking price bargain bids to continue until the last few days…. That way if a bid is accepted Ashley can mark it down as a potential capital gain when the asset is sold.
Problem is, January prices are already inflated by double that 25% figure, and these FIFA transfer windows are the antithesis of sound financial management.
253 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM
ho ho look at me king of the blog sprouting out putting all assunder no wonder people leave @ the the end of the day dont patroize me and dont get your buddies to slate me
254 pedro // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM
I’ve just been looking for any news here in Argentina regarding Coloccini but they are still awaiting news from Newcastle. However, San Lorenzo are not confident and they have stated that they thought it was not going to be so difficult. Worryingly I read that San Lorenzo said Colo has done everything he can to leave and it is only the club that is unwilling to let him go because of the position we are in. Anyway, San Lorenzo are now waiting to move on their plan B, Mauro Cetto from Palermo. I’m sure we will have some sort of final statement today either way.
http://golazoargentino.wordpress.com/
255 catchy in norway // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:57 PM
John Tudor
come on man,, your speaking with a bunch of guys you dont know, why would they care?
256 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:59 PM
John – I thought you were going to the pub ? Sounds like you could use a drink to relax.
257 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 3:59 PM
look we can all theorize, i give my twopenneth they give theirs i cant debate that well but nor can they
258 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:00 PM
Catchy
Once more, and strangely, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Pardew did admit that they had a conversation and the belief was that Cabaye would last the entire 90mins.
However, Pardew should have had it in his mindset that Cabaye, playing his first full senior game in a few months was not going to last so that the first substitution that he should have made would be Cabaye. Yes you are spot on there.
I have defended Pards on decision making in the past but with hindsight that was a wrong call, and if he had it to do again I think he would have subbed Cabaye, but in his position, Cabaye was having a blinder and Marv has struggled with fitness issues in the past so perhaps Marv seemed like a better decision.
Regardless of how he saw it he should have took Cabaye off first.
However, my alternative view of it is, had Pards had a bigger stronger squad to pick from, his bench would have given him ample options to choose from, so that even with Cabaye’s niggling injury he would still have decent enough crop to pick from, but as it stood his only feasible option was to bring on a 19 year old CDM.
That’s not good enough for a club of our stature, and that failure falls at the hands on the board.
259 toonLYF // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:00 PM
i can’t believe how much bickering goes on here. Sound like a bunch of girls fighting over who’s eye lashes are the longest.
Once it becomes personal, and away from NUFC related disagreements, it becomes pathetic lads. We’re talking to fellow supporters, about one of our biggest passions in life, yet why is there constantly atleast two posters having a go at eachother, at every given time.
F off to Facebook or Twitter, i come here to talk constructively about my team, not to read playground fight transcriptions.
260 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:01 PM
Catchy.Reading were playing better in the second half and looking dangerous on the counter,we looked a bit open in midfield,he took Marveaux off so Perch could sit in midfield while the others push forward,backfired when Cabs got injured as many people have already stated,Jonas isn’t playing well going forward but he still works hard for the team.
261 boater // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Ruddy – you’re talking sense. Santon has a swashbuckling, effortless control of the ball which is easy on the eye and appeals to the terraces. Actually – look carefully this season and he is more culpable than Williamson in a lot of situations.
Williamson is the subject of mob fury as he’s the last line of defense and the easy one to pin the blame on – but the damage is often done before he’s challenging to salvage the situation.
Williamson is a 6/10 defender – so I agree we should be looking to replace with someone better – but Santon defensively is a 3/10 player – much more costly to results.
I read someone saying change Williamson and we will start winning – it’s comically naive.
262 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:03 PM
hey this whole shit depresses me there is no end in site i think it best to not comment till the end of the nightmare i will still read the blog but please have some repect for your elders espically if they apologiseand try not to be socondecending and high and mighty.
263 magpie79 // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:05 PM
John Tudor your all righhtttt!
264 John Tudor // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:05 PM
ty
265 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Boater
I agree that it is naive to state that all our defensive problems are a result of Williamson as there are much bigger problems i.e lack of mobility in the back line, Colo’s head being elsewhere, and Santon’s inability to close down his man or maintain position.
The first Reading goal was a comedy of errors on the part of both Santon and Williamson. Santon was so far off his man that he made Simpson look like a star defender and Williamson did everything right, got in front of the attacker and all he had to do was put his foot on the ball…and he missed it. Shocking.
266 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Tudor
Don’t think anyone was trying to be condescending but yeah I agree with you fella.
267 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:10 PM
NUFCfans.co.uk ?@nufcfans
San Lorenzo fans getting a little excited about Coloccini, reports in Argentina say #NUFC meeting happening right now. #LoveOfMyLife
268 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Freelance journalist ?@indykaila
Three premiership clubs have made enquires for #Celtic forward Gary Hooper. More details will follow shortly…
269 Dannyo // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM
@JB
There was also a meeting last night.
270 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Bit of news from Toulouse – Word has it that Moussa Sissoko is going to choose Newcastle over QPR.
Him and his agent has already come out and stated that Newcastle is his preferred move, and apparently they won’t be seen to go back on their word or have heads turned by ridiculous money offers. They are FULLY aware that Sissoko wasn’t QPR’s first option as M’vila was, they are also supposedly baffled by the admission that QPR are utilising NUFC’s scouting to check out players and the arrival of Matthieu Debuchy has played a big factor as they are close friends.
All word of mouth – but they seem genuine.
271 Wayayman // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Aaaaanyway…
Collo is gone one way or another. If he is told he can’t go, he’s not going to be 100% committed (mentally) at least short term. It’s easy to see at the minute that he’s not really ‘here’ and it would be lovely if someone he came out and explained wtf is going on IF he does leave. He does owe it to us IF it’s something he’s done (as the rumours have it) and if it is on medical grounds (I sincerely hope not) then no one would hold it against him.
I love him as a player, and he’s a class act who will be almost impossible to replace. A ball-playing centre half is very, very rare and we’d be priced out of one anyway.
For me, he has to be replaced (obviously) and we need another creative midfielder as I honestly think even if we stay up, Benny will be off in the summer.
We all know we need at least one more striker too. I’d actually take Graham at the minute. At least you know he’ll put in a shift and chase down defenders. He’s also an instinctive striker who makes great runs into the box. Everything Shola lacks, basically.
272 Zero // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM
@JackButler
let them get excited, if MA isnt going to be liberal in splashing the cash (which hes never been) i very much doubt hes going to let a top defender go on a free lol…. but this is the soap known as NUFC so i guess it could happen
273 JackButler // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:17 PM
There is no way that Ashley, who is nothing more than business man, is going to allow Colo to just walk away from the club. San Lorenzo either need to pay up or he stays, its that simple
274 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:17 PM
Zero – Who needs Eastenders when you’ve got Newcastke United Football Club!
275 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Not verified but seems legitimate
https://twitter.com/MapouYangaMbiwa
276 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Okay…that’s my work done for the day (;) ) …now back to important matters….are we playing nicely now?
277 Zero // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM
We have more thieving cockneys than eastenders aswell…. instead of geordie shore they should have made a program about the dramas at NUFC lol albeit very roy of the rovers style lol
278 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Yeah…that wink worked well.
279 manxpie // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Catchy where’s your admission that you were wrong calling pardew a liar!?
Or is candies lie,ing too?
280 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:22 PM
Ibiza
Well what else should we expect from such a bloody winker as yourself
281 Rotonda heights // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:22 PM
mojo
reading had already equalised before cabs went off. the damage was done we had no other flair or creative players on the pitch to carry the fight.
282 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:22 PM
Ruddy…He only has 250 odd followers…not high profile enough for our club. Mbiwa out I say.
283 Zero // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM
manxpie who cares if he was lieing, he cost us the game…again through poor descisions. Seriously the only thing im backing pards for now is to get the sack after he loses the next three matches
284 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Ruddy – I’m not 100% certain but I don’t think that twitter account is genuine mate. I heard that Mbiwa isn’t allowed to publicise the prospective move to Newcastle.
As I say – I’m not totally certain.
285 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM
I think you mean ruddy winker….and I think you may have used an incorrect vowel as well…here it goes….
286 boater // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Ruddy – yes Williamson was culpable and I can see why people want someone technically superior in there- but our defensive problems start – and have as long as I can remember – with a lack of cohesion, and cover from midfield and wide areas. It’s somehow in our footballing DNA to be open and leave defenders one on one.
People thinking all this will change with one new signing – conveniently forget the roll call of high profile defenders who have come and gone with their reputations in tatters.
287 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Christ tudor got some grief today. thank god nobody resorted to namecalling .
its been a very slow day for news. seems everything is at a slow stage. we need some real news.
288 Jackel001 // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Check this out.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120702/agent-confirms-newcastle-target-de-jong-ready-move-175707
289 Oldgit1 // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:26 PM
@ tort toon. Thanks for that last post although not yet confirmed. It comments like yours that keep me going and believe that not all players are money orinated. This guy will get a special welcome if true. Have you down as a perfect pick me up from now on. Cheers
290 liam1985nufc // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:26 PM
288 – That is Luuk de Jong, Gladbach striker…
291 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM
Rotonda,i’m not talking about Cabs going off,i was talking about why Marveaux was took off.
292 Spreadthetoon // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM
The board have backed the manager, so they MUST follow this up with ACTIONS in the transfer market. We may not agree with their actions, but our season has been so febrile that we must publicly support the manager even if we do not agree with him, i.e. at SJP or @ away games. Lets hope that things turn around….cos’ another Reading result will leave me at a complete loss. Lets hope the players can re-group and get 3 pts from Villa away! HWTL
293 Zero // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM
Jackel – i dont know what to say… erm i really hope we sign him and he doesnt go to some team we carnt even spell like bourissa something or other…oh wait that already happened
294 TorqToon // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Oldgit – That quite a task mate!
I just post the bits I hear that come from reliable friends of mine with direct links to clubs or players.
Will renew my faith in professional footballers should this come off !
295 roshan MAGPIE // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:29 PM
http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/KrfxsrYMdEieK09LN_P-vA/Show/
better statistics than Colo but in French league
296 Rotonda heights // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Jimmy
because as 50000 people will tell you and even pardew admitted he got it wrong by shifting the momentum completely to a team chasing the game.
297 Jackel001 // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:34 PM
SORRY! Wrong link, This is the link I meant to put!
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130121/newcastle-red-alert-ajax-star-set-exit-door-189785
298 Toon-Prodigy // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Some thoughts, lads.
The bench we have is very limited. If we had Remy on the bench maybe he would of been introduced? Perch was brought on because we couldn’t get a grasp on the game in the second half. We didn’t look good. He was looking to change our approach, switch things up aswell as tighten up. Yes, he is a defensive mid. But would you rather a development player take to the field out of his depth? Our squad is weak. Very weak. He dosn’t have a great deal of quality at his disposal right now. The bench should tell you that.
You can’t blame Pardew for not being psychic? When Marv was hooked, in his mind, we still had Cabaye on the field who was playing very well. He wasn’t to know he was going to start feeling his groin? He shouldn’t even of had to apologise for this. He only did because of the reaction from some parts of the ground, he felt the need to explain.
Ranger, as thick as he is. He has no place in this squad/team. He should be frozen out for his past behaviour. He has been locked in a jail cell more times than he has actually put the ball in the net. His attitude is shocking, i cringe everytime he pulls on the shirt. Its embarrasing for this club to have such a person anywhere near.. He shouldn’t of said what he did, but I tell you what, he was bang on with what he said. These fans should stay at home. They bring nothing to the table behaving like that. Who exactly are they helping/supporting? Why waste the money? Youngsters and whoever coming onto the feild to a rung of boos? Dear me.
The booing was pathetic. Emotional drivel. How on earth fans think that has helped NUFC in anyway is beyond me, no matter who it was directed to. It simply has no place in St James Park. It can’t help the situation in any way. This does not take a genius to work out. If these people feel the need to vent, then try using initiative. Buy a crayola set and a cheap bedsheet and stand outside the ground. It was embarrasing to a lot of people. And it was not everyone booing to anyone who thinks otherwise. Far from it.
Im positive. I hold my stance. For me, Pardew stays. He is not the greatest manager in the world but i believe he is capable giving the right support from upstairs. Im tired of backing a manager on here WHO is being blamed for alot of things he hasn’t had a hand in. He is dealing with a lot of pressure through no fault of his own due to 56 injuries since july (preseason) And no backing from the board last summer. Would we really be where we are if he was backed in the summer? or didnt have the injuries we have had? Pardew is not an excellent manager, he is a manager who did excellent last season and recieved no backing. Could we do better? Who would come here and take the blame for the mistakes and gambles upstairs take? Pardew had nothing to lose coming here. But if we should be anything? It should be grateful. No one with any reputation would touch this job. He is doing the best he can under very awkward circumstances. Thats the reality.
No continous 1st 11.
Mass amount of injuries and bad timing. Plus suspensions.
Inept squad, no quality in depth with more games to play.
Development players being brought in due to an injury crisis no where near ready.
Players out of position.
Low morale and confidence due to no backing in the summer all round the club from top to bottom.
Pardew has proven here he can do a job, given the right players at his disposal. Fluke? Don’t make me laugh man. A fluke is one to five games maybe. Not over the course of a season. It might not be the entertaining 90s kk football you desire, but it worked last year and we did very well and progressed massively as a club. I witnessed a spirit and determination at the club which i hadn’t seen for a long time.
Try and keep the faith lads. Bodys are coming back and new players are coming in. Don’t turn on the manager until he fails to deliver with what he SHOULD have at his disposal. I know he ain’t great but I’d have him over Joe Kinnear.
Don’t forget the progress of last season and the problems this season.
Sorry for the long read lads, but had a lot to get off my chest
Take it easy aswell lads, im hungover to death haha
299 sirtoongospel // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Hindsight is absolutely brilliant. We would all be supreme managers with that benefit. The fact is at the start if the second half, we lost our foothold, couldn’t put 3 passes together and Marv was anonymous. Perch was there to stick his foot in. It may well have been ok but the cabaye situation made the change look daft.
No doubts Marv should have stayed on ahead of others; but I can see what Pardew tried to achieve. It backfired but as I say, hindsight is brilliant.
At the risk of repeating earlier comments though, Santon cost us the game. Shame to say but he is defensively awful.
Last point, the people who keep stating “hoofball” all the time are becoming boring. We played nice stuff and have done for a few weeks. The long ball stuff starts when Willo gets too much of the ball. There were lots of positives but they were lost because of the result. Just watch us go and smash Villa.
Patience is wearing thin but we need to stick with it. The manager has pleaded for players. The board let him and us down in the summer, and I would be gutted for Pardew to get the grief and lose his job when the biggest culprits would get off scot free.
I think that we are trying to bring good players in and will do so. But please let’s not blame Pardew for everything. If he says nothing he gets stick, if he speaks he gets told to shut up. People wanted young players to get a chance, they got it and were found wanting. He was accused of being a puppet, then when he demands players he is making excuses!!!
He has made mistakes, sure, but lets not let frustration and blind hatred get in the way of subjective and constructive criticism. The fella has dropped some bollox this season, but he has some strengths too. Hopefully his attempt to keep Ba won’t be our downfall, and the players he sacrificed can regain form and confidence.
With some arrivals this week and a win against Villa, the world might just seem a brighter place.
300 liamfrost // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:49 PM
lol dont know why everyone is panicking just because we got a 750k bid rejected… SO WHAT?? were obviously going to pay what the team want for him which is £1million!!! an absolute bargain!! we was going to pay £9million for remy! with that £9million we can pay for Gouffran and yanga mbiwa for less than £9million, PIPE DOWN!! HWTL
301 yo-yo // Jan 21, 2013 at 4:59 PM
Yo came off. This screwed up APs plan to switch to diamond 4-4-2 which ManU used very effectively against us. He’s admitted he made the wrong call. I didn’t expect him to do this but he’s been a bit more open with the fans recently.
302 Sav // Jan 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM
I’m not crying ‘Pardew out’ but did I not read one interview where he said Cab felt his leg at half time?
If so, then it was a poor call to take Marv off first. Can anyone confirm it either way?
303 burnzy // Jan 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM
we either go for this player with a new bid or we get danny graham (AM SICK AND TIRED OF MY TEAM NOW AS THERE AINT BEEN NO APPROACH FOR STRIKERS :@
304 cestriasteve // Jan 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM
@TorqToon, really rate your posts so I hope Sissoko rumour turns out to be true he is a quality player.
On the Pieters interest, I have a feeling that we may sign him in the not too distant future, dont know why but its strange that he was over to visit us for a game earlier in the season. Again a very gifted player if he can return to form.
Still struggling for a centre forward like!!
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