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Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa – Pardew Vision To Close On Top Four

11:25 am, Wednesday, January 23rd, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 264 Comments

Newcastle’s new defender Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa has talked about why he came to Newcastle, and he says he was impressed with Alan Pardew’s vision for the side – and that’s one reason he wanted to come to Newcastle United.

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Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa training yesterday – he’ll wear the number 13 shirt

We would expect Mapou to start at Aston Villa next Tuesday night – but that depends on what happens with Fabrico Coloccini – our captain – who is still in negotiations with Newcastle ans trying to leave the club this week.

This is what Mapou said on the Newcatsle web-site today:

“The manager wants to build a very strong, solid team and he wants the team to play as well as possible.”  “I think that’s one of the reasons he wants me there: to build a stronger team.”

“He also explained he wants to close the gap on the top four, and I think that’s one of the reasons why he wanted me to come so I can help him to achieve those objectives.”  “I think that question’s something you probably have to ask the manager.” 

“Obviously he has an idea where he wants me to play, and I think that’s probably the centre of defence, but the manager’s the man who decides however.”  “As you said, I’m quite a versatile player and this is our club, this is our team and where they need me.”

“I’ll be there to play in that position; to help out and make sure that we have the defense that we need.”  “The most important thing for me is each time I’ve got a football, I just try and enjoy it as much as I can.”

“Sometimes it’s more difficult and more complicated than other times, but all I want is just to enjoy each moment when I’m playing football and to help the team out as much as I can.”

Closing in on the top four seems strange when we are currently in 16th position in the league,  but that would be the goal for next season – if we can survive the drop – and the goal for this season is to get as high up as we can.

The comments of the French International give some idea of what a classy person he is – and we think he  could be another great signing for Newcastle, and we expect Mapou to get even better at Newcastle.

And he’s such a leader that he is a potential future Newcastle captain – and you have to remember he’s still only 23 – even though he’s been playing at Montpelier since he was 17.

It’s always great to get players into the club who are delighted to join Newcastle United.

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264 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon_Tom // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Vision is all good-and-well and I am over the f’in moon if we pull all these off…

    But where was APs vision in the Summer?

  • 2 wolfshead@toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    we need to be top 4 if we want to keep these players dont think pards has a long term future tho prob have a french manager in the summer

  • 3 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Is Wolfswinkel much better than say Hooper for example, he’s scored goals at a better level. But i’ve seen a lot of Hooper and his all round game seems better, has anyone seen VWW play?

  • 4 Incentino // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    That is an absolutely terrific interview.

  • 5 John Tudor // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    too much money for summer dealings still should have brouhgt some bods in tho

  • 6 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    geordie157, all i know is VWW has been linked with manure, hooper norwich

  • 7 jodemode // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    “Closing on the top 4″, I believe means “Get as far away from the relegation zone as possible”

  • 8 toonluvva // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    @Toon Tom I can’t blame Pardew for the lack of signings in the summer, the blame lies with MA & DL.

    Hopefully they sorting out the mess they created by bringing in a crop of new players, only time will tell.

    Lets not just dodge relegation this season but make a determined effort to climb as high up the table as possible.

    HWTL!!

  • 9 barkintoonfan9 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    cant believe we signed him! Thought we would had more of a realistic chance than signing remy. He is that good!

  • 10 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    See Michu has signed a 4 year contract with Swansea….time to drop that one doing the rounds then

  • 11 BigKirky // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Let’s not forget the Fifa13 squad update prompt in a few days time. Some people online are going to be on the end of a serious pasting with the squad boost. Excellent ;-)

  • 12 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    “After only six months at the club Michu has extended his contract with Swansea. The new agreement runs until the summer of 2016″

  • 13 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8428195/Moussa-Sissoko-has-been-banned-by-Toulouse-over-his-ongoing-transfer-row

  • 14 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Sorry if someones already posted this, but I think its funny:

    #NUFC BREAKING NEWS: Martin O’neill reaction to Mbiwa, Sissoko, Haidara and Gouffran deals… http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/1/281×351/230044_1.jpg

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Even Ibiza can’t lose at Fifa13 with our new players haha

  • 16 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Markaccus…and it actually looks like him :)

  • 17 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    3 million euro’s for Sissoko in Jan, Ashley get him in now!!

  • 18 true toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Good, we can keep him for a season or two and sell him for 15 million the season after next . Make quite a tidy profit .

  • 19 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    and while your at it, Sulejmani and Douglas are out of contract in summer.

  • 20 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    TS….My offline playing is just fine thank you. I’m standing by my poor internet connection excuse for my online performances to date…that and not being to handle the pressure of such occasions :)

  • 21 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    a FIFA 13 NUFC blog league sounds tempting! I quit playing online as everyone chooses utd, barca or madrid so it gets boring

  • 22 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Markccus no that’s AVB the meerkat

  • 23 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    TS…Ibiza will probably have the excuse that players need time to adapt; or he’ll be siting injuries and lack of transfer activity are too blame (still need more players ;)) lol

  • 24 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    SS news: Newcastle update within the hour….

    Tying up these other medicals first? Any news on Colo?

  • 25 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Jesper…Do you mean Ibiza will have genuine reasons? :)

  • 26 rainrix // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Oh gawd ssn already hyping up the deadline day >_>

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Ibiza…Genuine? Never :) lol

  • 28 Nick 69 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    geordie157 – but online play now matches you with a team of the same/similar rating. So the only way you would play one of those teams is if you choose one of them yourself. If you play with the Toon you’ll come up against a similar ranked team, i.e Liverpool, Napoli, Lazio etc

  • 29 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Jesper…To be fair, it’s quite hard to see what’s happening on the screen up on my fence….

  • 30 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    ;esper, yeah I was shocked by the likeness.
    Mashley… If you remove the glasses then it could be avb

  • 31 rainrix // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Ibiza… I honestly imagine it’ll just be more snippets of that press conference going on. Ssn are good at nothing else other than hyping sh!t up to try and get you to watch :)

  • 32 ajcrawfs // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    anyone think that colo wanted to leave because we didn’t buy anyone in the summer? but now he sees these players coming in he will want to stay?

  • 33 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Aahh, in that case i’ll be on it as soon as the updates are done and Mbiwa etc are in the team.

  • 34 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Ibiza…I will make sure a big ass screen tv installed on the boat asap ;)

    …don’t think that’s fair to you lol

  • 35 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    rainrix…I’ll take snippets….I need some news :)

  • 36 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Thanks Cap’n…you are a great and generous leader

  • 37 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    …they are really taking their time on that Colo announcement!

    *we will probably hear from his dad before either Colo or the club make a statement :D lol

  • 38 rainrix // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Ibiza… Junkie ;) ah well keep the blog updated fir the rest of us

  • 39 Nick 69 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    geordie157 – as long as u go onto ‘season’ and not the ‘xbox live’ feature it does anyway, u just chose ur team then it matches u a similar oppenent. Much better than when you used to be a lower ranked team and the opposition would always choose Barca. Updates are usually done every few days now aswell. Debuchy was in the team a day or two after signing

  • 40 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    If colo goes we need to get Toby A to replace him and Douglas in for willo

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Ibiza….I know ;) (at least the lemon crew don’t have problems with their Capt’n)

  • 42 blew // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    We need top coaches at the club, the rubbish is evident in set plays. AP is obviously here for the long term, so he needs help.
    I am excited, belatedly, by the transfer activities adding to the large French intake. Due to this I would love to see a former Toon class act come in as coach and bring the best out of his fellow countrymen. David Ginola has indicated his wishes to manage/coach, there would be no silly substitutions under him. Think of the respect the players would have.

  • 43 WesJameson // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/21476/8422478/Top-ten-alternatives

    Some deadly players on this list…even a few we have mentioned on this blog…

  • 44 tweaked // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    gees for all we know with the quality coming in we might even make a europa final :-D

  • 45 JackButler // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    100% GEORDIE ?@Nufc_4Life_
    Van wolfswinkel 10.2 million – reports in portuguese media say bid has been accepted. sporting are in financial trouble. #NUFC

    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • 46 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    I love how Pardew has a vision…

    …its a shame he doesn’t have the capability to get any where near it.

  • 47 JackButler // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/video/54014

  • 48 BigKirky // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Geordie 157, yeah that would be canny a FIFA13 league. Can that be done? I just play online seasons or Pro Clubs.

    Also, does anyone know if say, I had a friend at my house who wanted to use pad 2 to play with me (pad 1) on my Pro Clubs (with two mates in Scotland on our Pro Team), whether can that be done? If you know what I mean? Or is it only 1 person per gamertag (Xbox 360) sort of thing?

  • 49 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Stefan de Vrij, didnt realise he was already captain of Feyenoord. has been linked with us a few times.

    I’ve been told off saying we should sign Butland. I think if he’s 4mill its money well spent, loan him back to brum this season then a prem side next season. then review, worst case we’d sell him or krul, but both would be worth a nice big transfer fee.

  • 50 toonheroes // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Just read that Pep Guadiola has targeted Tiote as a player he’d like to have at Bayern when he takes over.

    http://www.goal.com/de

    Looks like Tiote might be gone in the Summer. Can’t see him turning down that offer if it comes

  • 51 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Bano

    Change the record eh?

  • 52 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    “Obviously he has an idea where he wants me to play, and I think that’s probably the centre of defence, but the manager’s the man who decides however.”  “As you said, I’m quite a versatile player and this is our club, this is our team and where they need me.”

    Oh no hes our new CF ;)

    Big kirky
    One thing you need to remember fifa 13 seem to hate us despite being on the cover! Fully expect debuchy n mbiwa to drop a few overall points ;) always remember enrique n carroll being like 75 n 72 until they signed for the bin dippers!!!

    Anyway any new news? Ffs ashley man its lunchtime and you havent signed sissoko and RVW yet ffs
    Ash out!

  • 53 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    blew, would love to see Ginola back in a coaching role. Maybe he could help the likes of Obertan to improve aswell, Steve Stone is well liked but not sure how good a coach he is.

  • 54 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Bano
    Your a miserable git lad

  • 55 dillondog // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Great addition to the team ,keep them coming ,what’s your thoughts on the wolfster??? Don’t know too much about him

  • 56 JP...from The Rock // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    I am over the moon I really am. The effort put in by the board these past few days has been nothing short of incredible. To sign Mbiwa and possibly 3 or 4 more hours later is very impressive. My hat must go off to the board, and Pardew has finally been backed in the transfer market. Who knows maybe now Ashley gets the bug of the transfer window and chips in like this every now and again for fun, who knows with the man.

    Either way I am ecstatic that we are showing real ambition at last and signing quality players that are the envy of some teams.

    It’s a shame this season has been written off because we didn’t do this in the summer. Though if we survive and Pardew who knows all of his players strengths stays, then I can see us pushing hard for a top 4 spot and seriously threaten Spurs and Everton’s chances to break into the top 4.

    THE FUTURE’S BRIGHT THE FUTURE’S BLACK N’ WHITE! – again :D

    HWTL

  • 57 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    bano is right. pardew out. he’s so tactically inept

  • 58 Tony // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Gourcuff set for Toon move
    Wednesday, January 23, 2013 at 1:12 AM | by Jack Johnson
    Yoan Gourcuff has revealed that he is finally set to join Newcastle as the Magpies continue their raid on Ligue 1.

    Alan Pardew has already snapped up centre back Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa from Montpellier and right back Mathieu Debuchy whilst lining up a move for Toulousse’s Moussa Sissoko, and Gourcuff looks set to be the next the next Frenchman to hop the channel to Tyneside according to BBC sport.

    The 26-year-old tweeted “I need a new challenge and therefore I hope that you respect my choice. I will follow all the results of the Girondins (Bordeaux).” After scoring 14 goals already this season for Bordeaux he could be just the man to get Newcastle out of the considerable hole they find themselves in.

    The magpies did miss out on long term target Loic Remy when he chose to join QPR earlier this month and the former Marseille man has already bagged a goal on the debut for the Hoops. Yann M’Vila is another Newcastle target who from Ligue 1 who could well join Harry Redknapp’s relegation scrap – now doesn’t that sound like a great TV show – although reports of Rangers scouts secretly following the Toon’s head scout Graham Carr around France are so far unfounded.

    Jack Johnson

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  • 59 Tony // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Pretty sure he getting confused

  • 60 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    SS seem pretty sure a bid is coming in for krul soon geordie 157 so could see us moving for butland also a story that ospina has handed in a transfer request jesus we could have a whole new back 5 come feb

  • 61 JackButler // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Can’t see Kul leaving, though UTD are said to be ready to cut their loses with De Gear

  • 62 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Man Utd have Lindegaard

  • 63 BigKirky // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Debuchy has 82 for crossing I think TDS. Utilised already in my side.

    Team took quite a dip when Ba went from my LEFT SIDED front three. Relegated from Div 1 online straight away without his shooting.

    Hopefully the other players will sign today, looking forward to Villa game. Glad they lost yesterday as it may have taken the wind out of them for next week.

    VWW links are interesting.

  • 64 colwell // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Haha how can so many people mix Gourcuff and Gouffran up?

    Gourcuff would have been an awesome No 10.

    Wigan want Simmo they will deffo go down lol

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    BigKinky…VWW? (is that Volkswagen ;) lol)

    …do you mean RVW?

  • 66 bills-son // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Any news on Haidara?

  • 67 JackButler // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    bills-son

    ://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/video/54014

  • 68 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    colwell…I would take the Lyon lad in a heartbeat ;) (I confuse the names as well lol)

  • 69 JackButler // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    bills-son

    http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/video/54014

  • 70 BigKirky // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    oh, yeah RVW ;-) VW I should have put.

  • 71 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Yeah, let’s sack pardew now, while signing all these new players, because we need to destabalise them while they try to adjust to a new league. Genius, lads. Genius. -sighs-

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    JB…so that is where all the rich people parks their cars ;)

  • 73 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Great bit of buisness for swansea getting michu to sign a new contract

  • 74 JackButler // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    jesperfuglsang

    You can’t expect new players to walk past cars owned by the common folk now could you ;)

  • 75 TorqToon // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Nice of QPR to “step aside and allow Newcastle to take Sissoko” !

    Idiots!! As i mentioned before – Sissoko turned down the chance to meet with QPR – not the other way around. :-)

  • 76 miggy // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    says in thr chronicle that highly ranked sources at nufc have said there not in for RVW united were quick to dismiss the reports mind u this is lee ryder and he has been known to be wrong before on another note the entire bradford team that beat villa last nite were worth 15 000 pound they were all free or on loan n two players w worth 7500 each go on bradford well done

  • 77 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Butler do you call you nic p thormon or something on twatter ?

  • 78 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Ian, good morning! Hope all well with you, Much encourages by MA’s swoops and have praised him for it. Had a half bottle of vino last night + 2 yr old not sleeping = a bit wrecked today. Sissoko seems to be a top player – would love to get him, but losing Colo for Mbiwa is not good in the short term. I really hope he sees out the season.

  • 79 Dimitri // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    He looks like Drogba in this picture.

  • 80 miggy // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    got that wrong the cost of the starting eleven was 7500 still well done i do apologise f getn that wrong

  • 81 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Interesting.. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8428195/Moussa-Sissoko-has-been-banned-by-Toulouse-over-his-ongoing-transfer-row

  • 82 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    I am not overly bothered whether Coloccini stays or goes. He has not been an influential captain this season something missing since Nolan’s departure. The fact that we have yet to come from behind to win a game adds wait to my contention. Cabaye as captain please . He is inspirational.

  • 83 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Pards can talk all he wants but he has to change. He must have talked a lot of shit to Anita to convince him to sign – and then decided we should be a long ball team for much of this season, bottled it with Ba, and cant produce good dead balls, and cant inspire a team to fight back – although I was never certain Colo was the vocal leader we needed. So Pardew, less of the talk and more on the training ground or its on your bike. I’d be delighted if you improve things, and keep your job, but only on the basis of serious improvement.

  • 84 miggy // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    wonder if remy is regretting his deciscion still he could always join when qpr go down thats if we interested still

  • 85 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    With these players in we will be safe and no reason to go all the way in the Europa and perhaps to the final what da ya fink!

  • 86 bemba da // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Just saw someone claiming on Twitter that a youth coach has confirmed that Butlands signing on the dotted line, although he’s said he won’t be 2nd choice….
    Also lee ryders saying RVW story is horseshit although I dont believe a word that falls from his mouth

  • 87 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    That is interesting, Belfast. Surely, sissoko will want a game, toulouse will want a bit of cash, so surely it makes sense for us to sign him now for a few mil and get some benefit from him. I know he’s free in summer, but come on Mashley, your actually doing well for once, don’t spoil it now.

  • 88 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Colo’s dad is really starting to bore me now, with his daily shite talk.

  • 89 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Ruddy, much of Toonbano’s arguments are well thought out and fair. Pardew has to carry a big can for what has happened this season and if you cant see that , well……..I would be happy if he stayed, but only with serious improvement in results, but also, very importantly, in style and shape of team.

  • 90 colwell // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    jesperfuglsang – captain of the lemon crew

    lol I would love him here aswell, reading that post earlier had me going until I saw Bordeaux’s name mentioned and realised the guy had them mixed up.

  • 91 colwell // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Lee Ryder know’s as much about the players we are signing as Pardew does.

  • 92 pawl250 // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Ok lads we need to get these boys over the line, tomorrow at the latest for Sissoko, allows them a full weekend to gel abit with the other lads.

    TEAM FOR VILLA

    ———————— Krul ——————–
    Debuchy – Mbiwa – Coloccini – Santon
    ————— Anita – Sissoko ————–
    Gouffran ——- Cabaye —— Marveaux
    ——————— Cisse ———————-

    BENCH – Elliot, Williamson, STaylor, Perch, Bigirmana, Jonas, Shola

    FUTURE LINE UP WHEN ALL FIT

    ——————— Krul ———————–
    Debuchy – Mbiwa – Coloccini – Santon
    —— Tiote —- Cabaye – Sissoko ——–
    Gouffran ——– Cisse ——— Ben Arfa

    BENCH – Elliot, STaylor, Haidara, Anita, Jonas, Marveaux, Shola

    Exciting times if we manage to pull Sissoko out the bad and keep Colo. I can see us push up the league. WE NEED TO WIN VILLA THOUGH!

    1. Confidence is key!
    2. Its a 6 pointer!
    3. Bradford did it!

  • 93 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    I think we can all agree things have got to change from how…the gloves are off and we need to oull it together (manager and players)

    …we don’t have time for more excuses (even how valid some think they are)

    *We are in a dog fight from now and until the end of the season. (never thought we would be here though :()

  • 94 hotdog // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Delighted the players are finally arriving, a tough baptism though Villa Chelsea Spurs. I wish we had of acquired them earlier. It will be difficult throwing them into those games but if they were here on the 3rd Jan it would have been so much better and we would not have lost to Reading, of that I am certain!

  • 95 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Belfast…Bit late on your exclusives today aren’t you?

  • 96 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Looks to me like it’s sky bet/sky sports pushing the krul to Milan transfer. Biggest load of bollox in my opinion.

  • 97 colwell // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    MA is playing it very clever with Sissoko, sign him to a pre contract and then negotiate with Toulouse for him coming now. Toulouse won’t have a leg to stand on we offer 1m he’s ours anyway their bound to accept.

  • 98 Hebburn Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    I cannot remember the last time that Newcastle announced a double signing on the same day. I think if we were to tie the two deals up today for a defender and striker as it has been suggested then it would show more intent than ever by Mr Ashley. I can actually see this being probably the most successful transfer windown for ourselfs in god knows how many year. Onwards and Upwards! HWTL!

  • 99 Dannyo // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Heaven forbid we go down, and I don’t dare predict anything atm, many points to gather, few matches to do it…
    I’ll write this off as a Everton year and hopefully we’ll be back in the business next year.

  • 100 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    I cant post them of my phone Ibiza. So keep quiet & get back to your commodore 64 please. ;)

  • 101 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Torq toon
    Lol which muppet at QPR is saying they stepped aside! Suppose they stepped aside to allow ruban to have m’vila aswell LMAO
    toulouse seem to have decided that sissoko is to be gone this window lets hope we can reach an agreement eh!

    Not paying to much attention to lee ryder he seems to be the last person to know whats happening at the toon
    Very exciting times!!!

    Munster
    Well hopefully with the new signings that seem to be pouring through the doors we will have a more stable defence, more options in CM (sissoko hopefully) bolstered attack and a much stronger looking bench especially with cabaye n taylor (who hopefully can find last seasons form) back and ben arfa to soon follow hopefully we’ll see an invigorrated squad and one with a back line pardew will hopefully doesn’t think needs babysitting as much by going defensive, for me colo is a big part of that problem atm and needs sorting ASAP

  • 102 hotdog // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Whar are peoples views on Gouffran when he played up here? Cant say he stood out for me!

  • 103 Tekkers29 // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    all Lee Ryder does is ring the club press office and asks are we buying this player or reads other press releases from other papers

    he’s an idiot

  • 104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Belfast…Isn’t it time you got a mobile then? Jeez….get with the times mate

  • 105 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    *now on

  • 106 catchy in norway // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    ibiza

    from yesterday

    the only game i feel we played football under pardew in last season and this season was v man u this year 4-3

    that is the only game i have seen and thought wow, wew were good today

    we have had way to many games where we were just poor from start to finish

    poor games that we won, and i inlude the 3-0 v man u in that,, as a game it was all long ball, the win was good,, but the football was poor,

    a lot of game where we play well and just give up, 7-3 v arsenal,, pardew said and we all seen on tv
    “no more goals” meaning sit back and see out a 3-3 it went wrong bang 7 – 3,,

    i can honestly say we got results last year, some great goals by cisse and HBA , but not many team performances to suggest we were a good team,

    a game of football lasts 90 min ++, he should have his team trying to win for 90++ mins

    thats where he fails big time as a manager

  • 107 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Hotdogh, didn’t stand out particularly to me either, but his league record is canny this year so far. 10 in 22. On the cheap due to contract so I’d say worth a shot, good support player for cisse I’d think.

  • 108 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    I didn’t even notice that guy Gouffran when he played against us. I still hope we sign another striker.

  • 109 nightfa11 // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    great work by mike & co..

    too bad we didnt sign mbiwa in the summer, but they probably wanted 20 mio for him..in the long run it was better to wait then to end up with tomkins instead of mbiwa..

    anyway..great job=)

  • 110 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Ibiza…:D lol

    …yes Belfast, no one uses phones anymore!

  • 111 catchy in norway // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    lee ryder thinks he has made it to the big time :( he is just another pupet

  • 112 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    *hotdog. Not sure where that ‘h’ came from!

  • 113 colwell // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    hotdog

    Gouffran looked decent at St James, very quick should have scored a couple. Will bring much needed pace to the team and its been quite a while since we had a player that can actually latch onto to a through ball.

  • 114 AMEOBI // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    He’s big, he’s french now Williamson’s on the bench! Mbiwa! Mbiwa!

  • 115 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    I’ll always be king of the exclusives Ibiza. Lets face it Jack Butler & Dannyo are crap at it. So no contest really…

  • 116 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Didnt his assistant Carver say that Pards spends 4 out of 5 days on defensive training. This has to stop, apart from the fact that it isnt working. Seriously, if lose Colo immedialely we could be in do-do

  • 117 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Munster

    Did you read his article yesterday? Read it and then come back and tell me that Bano has a well thought out and balanced perspective. It is not the questioning of Pardew I want him to change, it’s the spouting of drivel.

    We all see the weaknesses in our team and they go right back to the arguments that you and others made in the summer about reinforcements, due to the lack of reinforcements and subsequent constant stream of injuries meant we’ve been forced into a more rigid approach with regards the players at our disposal and the system said players can play.

    With more players come more options, something I must admit, I didn’t appreciate fully in the summer, but this season has been a rude awakening.

  • 118 Hebburn Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    I actually passed the training ground this morning and as I was passing I saw Gouffran going into the training ground. Hopefully this is just another signing like yesterday and he signs the same day that he flys into Newcastle. Heres hoping.

  • 119 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Catchy….Sorry, I thought you said the first half against Reading was “good”?

    Belfast…You’re always good for a little chuckle :)

  • 120 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    http://www.toonbano.com/2013/01/newcastle-need-organisation-in-defence.html

    I’m going to read it now. Doe’s it have a nice ending ?? ;)

  • 121 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Munster

    In case you were wondering I cannot bear Bano

    http://www.toonbano.com

    His condescending claptrap has gone to a new level.

  • 122 hotdog // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    On Gouffran – I agree pace is needed, ill reserve judgement on the lad me thinks. I suppose we have got to be happy, as long as Collo stays, with the business done.

  • 123 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Ruddy….I honestly couldn’t read past the 3rd paragraph in that. What a guy.

  • 124 FrankfurtMag // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Portuguese are saying there is nothing in their media about this. Sporting Lisbon fan says RvW is the only striker they have, so they dont think he will go anywhere until the summer.

  • 125 Greebol1892 // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Shame Shola still in with a shout to make the bench. Is it any surprise we have struggled to “build from the back” when we have had Simps and Willo all season as 1st choice; and left our creative duties to the struggling Tiote….? Really happy to have the new signings at last and finally strengthen our thin 1st team squad. Forget about Pardew being sacked – thankfully it won’t happen because we need continued stability. Good players and good managers don’t suddenly become crap – it’s usually gradual. Maybe with the new signings we can finally put the bloody R*my saga to bed!

  • 126 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Ibiza

    The funny thing is that masked behind all the hideous condescension he can actually decently analyse football, but it is layered in barbed tongues and a mightier than thou approach.

    Truly disgusting read.

  • 127 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Right…well I am going in to a meeting now…what timing.

    Look forward to returning to more good news.

  • 128 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Ruddy…Indeed, there is nothing I dislike more than people with some sort of superiority complex…oh wait ;)

    Catch you later

  • 129 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Adios muchacho!

  • 130 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Cheeky bugger :P

  • 131 mindshaft // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Fantasic signings, seems to have given the fans a massive lift so hopefully thats also the same for the players. If we also get Sissoko over the line I’ll be well impressed – shame Ashley didnt sort it out last summer but hey, at least this lot should help in getting us away from relegation for this season

  • 132 TorqToon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Hebburn – Gouffran (I believe) has been done and dusted.

    He has rang and spoken to friends at Bordeaux and confirmed it. I think it will be announced later today or possibly tomorrow.

    TADS – It’s come straight from the club I hear. They didn’t want to be seen to lose out on a player so are trying to distance themselves from the whole think. Not heard anything concrete yet but I still believe he will be ours this window. Worst case scenario is that Toulouse stick more money on a transfer fee now – but as it stands, we are in good shape mate.

  • 133 mattnufc // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Anyone believe we are overlooking our left midfield position?
    Or am I being greedy.

  • 134 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Munster- Good Afternoon. My bros two year old is teething and keeping him up. Unlike you to find the answer in a bottle! Good that MA finally found his cheque book. Can I start talking about 4-2-3-1 or should I wait until we’ve got a few points on the board. Hope we get that brute Sissoko he would really put some oomph in the midfield. We lack height. I see him as more Keane than Vierra. Can’t agree on Banno or whatever he’s another regurgitator of bad news. There isn’t a role for him when there is good news. Hopefully he’ll hibernate once we start winning football matches. Him and his like feed on misery. Unlike you and me-LOL

  • 135 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    A comment he made on his own blog…

    “Toon Bano22 January 2013 19:25
    I am shocked at the level of his defenders actually. The old ‘well we finished 5th last season’ is grating on me. What will these people say next season? Especially if we go down. Its pathetic to be honest. Its like saying ‘Well we were 1-0 up on 70 mins vs Reading’. Who cares?

    He has to go. If I were in charge I would have an agreement with Laurent Blanc to take over and complete this French revolution. He is the obvious choice overwhelmingly for me.

    But I have common sense and ambition….”

    Well done Bano, you have effectively ensured that I will never take a single word you ever say again seriously.

  • 136 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Bano is one of those people who, when things go well, its the players or good luck or solo performances, but when it goes wrong its the managers fault. We got 5th, he won manager of the year. You don’t do that by accident. Yes he has got some things wrong this season (particularly his handling of Ba and Cisse) but it is not all his doing where we are now.

  • 137 Hebburn Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Torq Toon – Aye well thats what I thought, maybe he was at the training ground to sort the last final ends of things up but by the sounds of what he annouced on twitter, its done and dusted, I hope.

  • 138 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    …what I cant stand is people who cant see past their own prejudices or dislikes to see the wood from the trees.

    As soon as AP changes than my ‘record’ will change with it. It really is that simple. I have no agenda’s. Call it as I see it.

    If the reality seems negative, than that’s what it is. Don’t shoot the messenger.

    P.S. I have no condescending attitude towards my articles or anything I say to be honest. It’s your own issues towards me that lead you to think that way.

    Each to their own.

  • 139 pawl250 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    CURRENT SQUAD

    GK
    Krul – KEEP
    Harper – SELL – Let go end of season!
    Elliot – KEEP
    Alnwick – KEEP

    RB
    Debuchy – KEEP
    Simpson – SELL 1-2m
    Tavernier – KEEP (purely as a backup squad player)

    CB
    Coloccini – KEEP
    STaylor – KEEP
    Mbiwa – KEEP
    Williamson – SELL 2-3m
    Street – KEEP

    LB
    Santon – KEEP
    Haidara – KEEP
    Ferguson – KEEP

    RM/LM
    Ben Arfa – KEEP
    Marveuax – KEEP
    Obertan – SELL 1-2m
    Jonas – KEEP
    Sammy – KEEP (purely squad player)
    Amalfitano – SELL 1m (if he was any good he would have been seen this season, lets be honest)
    RTaylor – SELL 1m

    CM
    Tiote – KEEP
    Anita – KEEP
    Cabaye – KEEP
    Sissoko? – KEEP
    Gosling – SELL 1-2m
    Vuckic – KEEP (purely squad player)
    Abeid – KEEP (purely squad player)
    Bigirmana – KEEP
    Perch – KEEP (versatility)

    ST
    Cisse – KEEP
    Gouffran – KEEP
    Shola – KEEP (may aswell let him finish here now)
    Ranger – SELL 1m
    Campbell – KEEP
    Xisco – SELL – FREE

    To me we have a decent sized squad! We need to add if we sell those players above

    CB x1 – Alderwield?
    CM x1 – ?
    LM/RM/CAM x 1 – ?
    ST x1 = PEA?

    Think we would have decent sized, and quality squad with a few additions after we sell the dead weight, injuries or money grabbers!

  • 140 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Bano, what about seeing past your own prejudices about Pardew? He has his faults but ignoring all other factors such as injuries etc weakens your argument.

  • 141 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Bano

    “…what I cant stand is people who cant see past their own prejudices or dislikes to see the wood from the trees.”

    Do you not realise that you have proved people’s points? You’re portraying yourself as some sort of enlightened hero sent here to open the eyes of the ignorant folk who disagree with you.

    Entertain the prospect that, You. Might. Not. Be. Right.

    Also, if you are so arrogant that you cannot even see the arrogance in your articles then there is no hope for you here my friend.

  • 142 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    #136 Well that’s where you’re wrong. I give the plaudits to the people that deserve it.

    Carr>signings
    Players>for individual performances
    Manager>tactics, strategy, team performance etc

    I praised Pardew more than anybody when we went 4-3-3 last season. It was brilliant. He impressed me no end.

    I then criticised him more than anybody for ditching it.

    It is what it is. There are no agendas.

    Why do people assume things then form an opinion off the back of it? Makes no sense.

  • 143 Scouse_geordie // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Great additions, nice to see a bit of cover/competition for Santon.although i wouldn’t be against seeing him utilised assas a winger now, lad clearly enjoys the attacking side of things.

    Glad gouffran is all but done as his pace gives us another dimension but i don’t think he is the answer to our goals.i agree with our policy but i feel we need someone to hang the shirt on, someone to relieve the pressure off cisse…its a shame berbatov exceeded our age limit when he was up for grabs, but someone like him is what we need or we might have trouble getting out of le merde!

  • 144 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    …what I cant stand is people who cant see past their own prejudices or dislikes to see the wood from the trees.

    So you then?
    I understand frustrations but have you ever attempted to write a neutral piece?

  • 145 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Ruddy, i have read some of Toonbanno’s stuff in the recent past but not that article. I dint have any isseus. He has pointed out glaring weaknesses like our free kicks etc. I still want Pards to improve as I like him and his honesty ( generally ) but the jury is firly out. To praise him just for last year ( a lot of luck there too ) and ignore the muck this season is an imbalanced view. Pards reminds re of Souness with all the injuries excuses. I blame Willo for some of that long ball stuff, and mbiwa will change that , but i think I was the first here to highlight the Sunday Times stats for long balls. We are also ( or were ) the team making the least interceptions. Probably because Tiote was suspended!

  • 146 BelfastMagpie // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    It actually wasn’t to bad. Though at the start I thought Catchy was maybe holding a knife to toonbanos throat as he wrote it.

    I actually agree with some of his points.

  • 147 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    No, bano, you don’t. You point blank refuse to recognise any of Pardews good achievements, and are far to quick to jump on him as soon as anything goes wrong. This is clear to everyone else. You are the only one who can’t see it. It would be totally idiotic to sack pardew now, with new players, and recognised first teamers coming back from injury. Think how seriously unstable that would make things, just when we’re trying to steady the ship. Complete lunacy!

  • 148 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Ruddy. I cant take anything you say seriously. Your attitude towards myself is clear to see.

    Tequila. I have not ignored the injuries this season but they have not been anywhere the contribution to being 2 points off relegation. The injuries would explain not matching our objective of top 6 (the top 8 objective was very low). It does not explain being in the bottom 5 at this stage of the season.

    The problem is far deeper than that. That’s what I choose to focus on. I wouldn’t expect the likes of Anita, Marveaux, Obertan, Williamson to beat Man U, City etc. But I would expect them to beat Reading, Southampton, Swansea at home, West Ham at home.

    Just blaming injuries for explaining being on 21 points with the team we put out is seriously misguided

  • 149 nufc_eire // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    What I dont understand is if Coloccini is dead set on leaving for argentina, why is San Lorenzo the only club that seem to be in on this deal??

    I know his dad and he have a connection with the club but Boca Juniors and River Plate are a couple of miles away and would probably have someone we could at least swap for colo or have enough money to make a decent sized bid for him!!

  • 150 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Pawl
    Sell ryan taylor? Might not be the most skilled player but he does a fcuk of alot better than people give him credit for and as a squad player we’ve missed him this season
    As for colo, i dont see how we can keep him now, its more about getting a fee for him and replacing him if he doesnt want to be here then so be it, if he’s not sure then he should tell daddy dearest to shut the fcuk up!
    Tiote i personally dont see being here much longer tbh especially if hes not a guaranteed starter, noticed even ivory coast benched him he’s normally a starter

  • 151 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Haidara looks a promising player. Get Willo, Simmo and the Ameobi’s off the banner.

    I will be satisfied if we keep Coloccini and sign Sissoko and a centre forward to replace Ba.

  • 152 davybtoon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    excited by all these new signings still think we need a new cb incase colo goes, n jack butland is one hell of a goalkeeper if that happens

  • 153 headtheball // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Ian Toon@82
    Blog Police here.
    adds wait to my contention.
    Did you mean weight or perhaps credence?
    Keep on the right side of the law.

  • 154 stuart no9 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    reading his interview- yanga- mbiwa has his head screwed on- is ready to fight for the cause, and it is totally refreshing to hear players say ” i will play in any position the manager asks” i think he will be a important asset in our fight for survival- havnt seen him play, but i am sure he is no mug. i believe pards has said the right things to get him hereand that the player himself wants to win things with us , i just hope pards dosnt let him down and adopts the ambition that he obviously has sold to the player.- but time will tell!

  • 155 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    If some of the light bulbs don’t get replaced in the dressing rooms soon, Pardew has to go.

  • 156 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Guys, I must confess I didnt see the Reading game highlights ( i chose not to, too depressing ) but read many articles and heard two or three good radio/TV reports. I dont see much wrong with Banno’s article. We have better players than Reading, and others, even with injuries. But could you see our team this season fighting back like Reading have done twice. Ok, his article is vitriolic, but we all get like that. Pardew has to carry the can for much of what has happened this season, and yes, he did well last season – very well, although he had lots of luck and two hot strikers. But credit where its due. If we had Sam Allardyce as manager with the exact same style of football and results and moaning about players not fitting the jersey, injuries etc, then we would all be SCREAMING for him to get out. Yet, our football is no better that West Ham. Thoughts ??

  • 157 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    TASouth – all of the pieces are neutral. Nothing I say is false. My own opinion of a solution is then added.

    Markaccus – Name one thing Pardew has achieved this season.

  • 158 nightfa11 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Greebol1892

    “Good players and good managers don’t suddenly become crap”

    whos to say pardew is a good manager? he had 1 good season in his entire careear..

    i wouldnt argue if he had some success with west ham or southampton..

    u say good managers dont suddenly become crap, but he somehow suddenly become so good?

  • 159 WWYCD // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    So all these players are signing up then u want to fire the manager?

  • 160 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Munster- it’s the personnel. They are incapable of executing basic training room drills. I rate my chances of out jumping Williamson and He’s a few inches taller than me. A long time ago Pardew sought to change the personnel but only know has that happened. Certainly I am looking for our pattern of play and dead ball work to resemble that of the best sides in the league. With all due respect I personally have little interest in someone repeatedly spouting the obvious. I heard most of it when I was 7 from my football coach. Pardew has been only to well aware what has been wrong but the options were few until know. Happy days are here again!!

  • 161 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Bano, I never suggested injuries were the only reason, though they have clearly been a big factor, lack of signings in the Summer have shown that there is a serious lack of quality in the squad. Can Pardew be blamed for Tiote giving the ball away so often in his own half ? that is not a fault of coaching but a serious lack of form from a player who looked world class last year. Pardew also has to accept some criticism but the general gist I have got from your articles and comments seem to me to massively weighted in scapegoating the manager.

  • 162 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    I’d put the reasons for our predicament in the following order of importance:
    1) Not enough investment in players in summer. So no cover for players in decline/bad form or injuries. No decent subs when needed.
    2) Many many injuries to first choice players, thus proving reason 1.
    3) Pardews mis-handling of the Ba/Cisse situation. Was a mistake (not a sacking offence though) that led to the final reason:
    4) Loss of form and confidence of last seasons solid performers. That’s just my personal view of the situation, some may swap the order around, but I don’t think mine is far from the truth.

  • 163 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Toon- Qualified for knock out stages of Europa.

  • 164 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Munster

    You see nothing wrong in the way he has worded his article?

    “The fact a lot of fans soak up this nonsense as well and then tell anyone who criticises Pardew or the team all about how we are where we are because of injuries is beyond annoying now. It’s insufferable. Do us a favour please, if you are a sheep that excuses the club in whatever it says or does no matter how ridiculous or blatantly wrong than that is fine, but then don’t try and tell the rest of us why we are wrong. Just keep singing. We need you to make noise in the stadium while others sit, watch and analyse what is actually going on with our team. All fans are different and we all play our roles.”

    Here he is claiming that anyone who agrees with what Pardew is saying, accepts what he is saying as fact or anyone who disagrees with his (Bano’s) point of view is a sheep. And yet you think there is nothing wrong with this approach.

    Regardless of how right or wrong the rest of his article may be it has been rendered null and void in my mind purely down to his own arrogance. If he feels he can speak to people that way and be taken seriously then good luck to him, it may work in virtual reality but not in real life application.

    Bano, if you are wondering what it is that I have against you, it is this and this alone. That you feel superior in both intellect and analysis and that your view and your view alone is correct and anyone who disagrees with you is a “sheep”, and for someone as ‘intelligent’ as yourself, surely the sheep metaphor is a bit cliché.

    But you’ll choose to dismiss me offhand as is your right, but the reason you’re dismissing me is because you disagree with me and heaven forbid if one of the sheep bleated back at you oh wise shepherd.

    Arrogant, stuck up sod.

  • 165 WWYCD // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Markaccus
    I blame Nile Ranger

  • 166 toonincheek // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Going back to the start of this thread –
    APs stated priority at the start of the seaon was to keep the existing squad, not sell anyone.
    We did that, so let’s give some credit.

    Then, due to so many injuries, Europe and a few other factors, we’ve struggled.

    I hope the new players settle in OK, then we can avoid relegation and look forward to top 4 next year.

    I do rate Yanga-Mbiwa highly – top player and already proved he is captain material.

    HWTL.

  • 167 nightfa11 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/gerard-houllier-warns-newcastle-their-french-1551012

  • 168 WWYCD // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Ruddy
    Bad day chap?

  • 169 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Will be shocked in Wigan are in for Simpson. They have Emerson Boyce who is 10 times the player.

  • 170 ToonMauritius // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    GFNFrance ?@GFN_France
    RE: #Sissoko. For those of you claiming he is at #NUFC at the moment all we know is talks between #Toulouse and #NUFC are ongoing about fee.
    Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More
    4m GFNFrance ?@GFN_France
    Apologies, many of you telling us he is there. Expect them both to be unveiled this evening then. #Haidara #Gouffran #NUFC
    Expand

  • 171 lesh // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Why should Mbiwa’s start against Villa depend on what happens with Coloccin.

    Collo’s still on our books isn’t he and wouldn’t Mbiwa offer an alternative CB option? Saylor must be about ready so where’s the issue?

    Surely makes sense to have Mbiwa train with both Collo and Saylor so even if Mbiwa’s benched and brought on, then at least they’ll not be strangers to oneanother

  • 172 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Markus: Few questions.

    1) How would you rate our sqaud going into the season compared to the rest of the Premier League? Rating out of 20 if you will.
    2) How many injuries to the recognised first XI have been apparent at any given stage throughout this season? Basically how many were missing for each match. (I assume you have some idea about this)
    3) Do you not believe having the highest long ball stats, complete lack of any set piece contribution, lack of organisation and solidity in the back line have had no major bearing on this season?

  • 173 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Bano. So you would make your judgement on pardew based entirely on the first half of this season, and not the season and a half before? Don’t know what you do for a living, but imagine you worked 3 months solid and did a good job, but then had a bad month where things went wrong for you, you made a couple of bad decisions and also had bad luck, and your boss sacked you on the back of that? How would you feel? This is basically what you’re expecting for Pardew.

  • 174 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Yo

    Actually not particularly, just a bone to pick with Bano :)

  • 175 toonincheek // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Colo – if he’s not happy to stay, we are better off without him.
    I reckon he is such a professional that he would stay if he thought it meant the difference between PL next year or relegation.

    Question – if he left, we would save on his wages, so even Stevens there.
    BUT – was there a bonus or re-signing fee when he extended his contract?
    He could not expect to keep that if there was one if he is allowed to leave.

  • 176 lesh // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Markaccus @162…. And why was there no investment in summer? Because the Managing Director was so concerned with the P&L accounts, out of his depth and in denial of the likelihood of problems during the season!

    All this is evidenced by Ashley taking over transfer dealings this window.

  • 177 WWYCD // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Ruddy
    Ah right then carry on my friend haha

  • 178 nick_9 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Nightfall – 5hit article from the mirror. We already have plenty of French lads but he thinks a few more will lead to trouble because they can speak a different language together. I do think we need a French coach or Pardew needs French lessons but his reasoning is a bit simplistic.

  • 179 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    http://injuryleague.com/2013/01/arsenal-toppled-from-top-of-the-injury-league-by-newcastle/?

    Bano this link gives a comparisom of injuries for all PL teams, 1 point for every week a player is missing through injuries

  • 180 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Fine bano, I can’t be bothered to research all of that, you can make stats prove whatever you like. Your right, let’s sack pardew now, leave the new players wondering wtf is going on, destroy what is left of the existing teams confidence, all on the strength of 5 months under acheivement. As for rating the ‘squad’…. First eleven would be a 15 out of 20, but as a full squad, terribly short of bench quality or game changers waiting to come on, 8/10.

  • 181 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    @tequillamag. Thanks for that :D

  • 182 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Yo

    Thank You kind sir :)

    How you been anyway? I’ve not seen you around an awful lot, maybe for the same reason I’ve stayed away, when times are rough it’s a tough place to be. These signings are looking positive though, so onwards and upwards…I hope.

  • 183 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    headtheball—LOL
    I ‘ll go for” add weight to my contention”. HWTL

  • 184 Tsunki // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Yo – I think WWMYMD has a ring to it. Just a thought.

    I actually agree with quite a bit of what Toonbano says, but the agenda to expunge the club of all things Pardite is a bit too forceful at this stage, too many mitigating circumstances remain. If we still lose against the likes of Villa and get into the last three with all his players lined up again, then yes it may be time to start the championship season with a new bod. But doing so now would be naive, and destructive.

    I do agree with the defensive organisation bit but I think its the FB’s who make the CB’s look bad by pulling them all over the shop, the ENTIRE line must be co-ordinated, but with Simspon and Santon this is never going to happen I am afraid. Simpson shouldn’t walk out on the pitch again imo, and Santon should be a reservist until he learns what a FB is or reshape him into a winger.

  • 185 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Bano

    An awful lot of sheep here aren’t there? How ever will you manage make them “open their eyes” to what is so blatantly apparent to you oh wise one?

  • 186 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Markaccus, no problem been having the same debate with catchy all season, he normally changes the subject when I present him with facts.

  • 187 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Members of the jury. May I present to you exhibit #164. I rest my case.

    Deary me Ruddy. What I was saying in that paragraph refers to the first 2 before it. In which I say the lack of organisation in defence and ambition in attack are the main reasons why we are where we are. Also that our team was far superior to Reading’s so the excuse of not enough quality or lack of a squad is non-sensical.

    My 3rd paragraph then goes onto say that some fans soak up this nonsense and use it to attack fans like me opinions. Even though they don’t make sense.

    All of which is in my eyes. Which is key to this whole argument. You seem completely oblivious to the fact that my website is a blog. My own blog to express my opinion. Its not meant as a wider neutral tool where many people contribute and share different opinions.

    Its straight to the point of how I feel. You seem to think this makes me arrogant. It doesn’t. It’s no different then reading someone’s Twitter feed. Just a much bigger and more detailed tool.

    I can’t understand the logic of attacking someone’s blog because it only expresses their opinion. That’s the whole point!

  • 188 Oldgit1 // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    With all these French signings, I’m concerned that we are in danger of effecting our home grown status, ie we have 17 foreigners in with 16 homegrown we are only allowed one more foreigner in and that will be it, that is if all the three including sissigo signs of course. Maybe wrong on this but would but am open to discussion.

  • 189 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Tequila– Stop peddling the same material. You can’t make a crab walk straight.

  • 190 toonincheek // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Statistics would suggest that we would do better if Chris Hughton was brought back as manager.
    I don’t believe that for a moment.
    Does anyone?

  • 191 headtheball // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Ruddy
    A couple of weeks ago I believe you had a spat with Stuart and stated later that you hardly ever insult anyone.HAHAHAHAHA. Classic.

  • 192 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Ian , I have no idea what that means but thanks for the feedback

  • 193 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Toon – your basic premise is always wrong. Try taking a different slant. How about the reigning PL manager of the year rather than that loser Pardew. That’s the drift before you sit down and start typing.
    Have you ever met and spoken to Pardew?

  • 194 WWYCD // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Ruddy
    Aye I tend to give this blog a wide berth a fair bit these days too much anger and negativity with very little sense to be found at times plus theres no debate here anymore just childish arguments most of the time…still a bit of fun to be had every now and then.

    On the signings I am allowing myself to be a little excited MYM is fantastic complete coup for us and I reckon Haidara looks big and strong with the ability to push Santon am not completely sold on Gouffran dont know much about him but for the price he could be a big surprise certainly better than what we have…then there is the possibility of Sissoko who I would love to have but time will tell on that on ;)

    Tsunki
    I have a rule that I only change my posting name for players whose names I can say rules out our new recruit am afraid plus I dont want to upset Cabs haha

  • 195 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Tsunki

    A masterclass in balanced thought out process making. Bano you could learn a thing or two. A crisis is rarely solely one thing or another, it is a culmination of all things.

    You yourself claimed that what is wrong is down to a lack of organisation at the back, which I tend to agree with, coupled of course with a midfield that was incapable of retaining the ball without Cabaye in there dictating things.

    But back to the defence. Pardew can drill the defence as much as he likes but if they go on to the field and fail to execute then surely the blame cannot go down on Pardew’s shoulders. Santon will not be encouraged to fail his defensive duties and Willo will not be encouraged to fail to clear crosses when they come into the box. It is down to the individual weaknesses of each player. However, both these players were assured starting berths due to the dreadful lack of quality at Pardew’s disposal.

    In what way is that his fault? With the signing of Mbiwa and the imminent arrival of Haidara then perhaps these two players will no longer be a part of this failing defence, i.e Pardew has spotted the weakness and is trying to address them, so what is it that you are holding against him? The defensive substitution? Well considering that Reading were taking control of the midfield and Marv doesn’t track back one could say that putting Perch on for Marv was a no-brainer, had it not been for Cabaye just coming back from injury, which is the only mistake he made.

    He should still have brought Perch on but for Cabaye and not Marv. But given how well Cabaye had been playing and Pards’ belief he could last 90mins surely we aren’t going to sack him for that?

    I cannot say I fathom your calls for sacking him.

  • 196 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Tequila – I am more interested in players that matter who are out injured. I had a look back over the season to weigh up the injuries excuse. On average we have had 2/3 first team players injured per game. Which have been replaced by good performers on the whole in Anita & Marveuax. Obertan has been ok this season. Willo has been abysmal.

    If you were to make a list of things that have contributed to our season’s plight, I wouldn’t injuries that high up. If we have consistently had 5/6 first teamers out at the same time then I would say it and agree with all of you. But it hasn’t been the case has it? I don’t make this stuff up.

  • 197 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Ok, if its all about opinions, here’s mine: I think anyone who wants yet another nufc manager change (god knows how many now) and at this point in the season, is a complete buffoon. You can quote me and stick that right up your blog tool.

  • 198 Shot Bru // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    I would make my judgement on Pardew because of what has happened this season alone and not what he did last season….why keep looking back to last season?

    This season has been a total disaster….Pardew has been in charge of the disaster and has clearly shown he can’t handle the pressure…

    This has been borne out by poor player selections, formations, substitutions, style of play, set pieces and general negativity when being interviewed.

    All of a sudden we make a signing, with one or two more to come and Pardew is gonna turn it around….

    I wonder how many times prople have watched these new signings to justify their reasons for supporting Pardew.

    His next excuse will be that the players will need time to gel…and so it goes on and on….

  • 199 Tekkers29 // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Oldgit

    you actually only need 8 home grown players in the squad which might be increased to 10 next season so we are still in that bracket.

  • 200 Tsunki // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Yo – yeah I know what you mean he has a fair old push on him, does Cabs.

    On the FB thing, I would like to say I thought Debs made the reading lads quiet down his side. Now to the LB spot……

  • 201 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Tequila— Your data on injuries which is a good explanation of the poor form allied to a small squad. It’s not going to convince someone who only wants to blame the manager. Losing to a side below us at home was viewed by manyy as justification to scream for the managers head. Only the clear headed can see the bigger picture. Even Luke Edwards has struggled.

  • 202 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Headtheball

    I fail to see what is classic about that? I don’t insult people often, I made an exception for Stuart, and given that he then accused me of racism I was quite right in my perception that he is an idiot. Also, if you think it is classic because I am insulting Bano then please do tell me where I have insulted him.

    Yo

    If we managed to nab Debuchy, Sissoko, Mbiwa along with Haidara and Gouffran I think I may actually faint, haha

    Sissoko is an utter beast of a player, much more composed player in the ilk of Tiote, could possibly see the end of Mr T but on the other hand it could spark a revival of sorts having a contender for his position.

    If we pull it off we have a much more solid squad going forward, all we’d need to do is sort out the Colo situation and ensure survival.

  • 203 cheddar // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Shocked to find that Anita cost as much as Ba’s release clause fee. I had forgotten how much we signed him for. I feel Anita has been crucial during certain games this season yet when you compare his fee to that of Mbiwa, Mbiwa looks like a steal.

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/newcastle-united/transfers/verein_762_2012_default_default_alle_a.html

  • 204 hadthetshirt // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Some of the rumours regarding Colo are awful.Do you not think if he had an affair and made the lass pregnant the press would be camped in Cramlington.
    How are you going to feel if the truth happens to be his wife is ill and suffering from cancer.
    Let’s just wait to see what transpires.
    I know his father isn’t helping the situation by his constant whitterings.
    Some good signings at last Mbiwa looks class.

  • 205 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Doesn’t matter if YOU think the players are important or not, its how it affects the balance of the team. I would have thought that was obvious.

  • 206 Novocastrian66 // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/gerard-houllier-warns-newcastle-their-french-1551012
    Amazing how the national press always manage to put a negative slant on anything Newcastle do. This is like saying if you had a squad dominated by English players they would cause disharmony with the non English speaking players. Absolute BS.

  • 207 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Ruddy, I think you may have insulted others on here in the past, but no worries either way. I have too, intentionally or not. I dont wanta change now, but if Pards doesnt improve then I think its a fair call, or certainly a fair debate. IMO you are ignoring many of his flaws because you are pissed off with Bano and sheep. Ok the sheep thing is too strong, but Pardew talks a lot of horse manure and if yount see it, that not my fault. For example, what did you think of the Senegalse FA excuse? Why does he batter young players who clearly werent motivated by him ( and the players v brighton are deffo guily too ) by telling them they are not big enough for the jersey – its all excuses and the fact that he is not questioned properly is probably what is driving Banno’s annoyance. You would think we had no HBA, Tiote, STaylor etc all season long. The long and the short is that we are under achieving badly and when just about every player is underperforming, you have logically look to the manager to see what is going wrong. Also, what do u make of the repetitive free kicks?? Pardew deserves the same criticism as the praise he got last season. We have more talent than many teams. I dont want him out now, but if we dont improve or barely stay up then I’d say goodbye.

  • 208 WWYCD // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Tsunki
    I wouldnt mess with him thats for sure give him his ball straight away thats what Id do haha

    On Debuchy I was fairly impressed with him seems to of settled quickly into a very tough situation, still think Simmo has something to offer though if he leaves I wont be heart broken we will need another FB in through the door however, I dont think Tav will make for a good back up but thats just my opinion

  • 209 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    #195 i have never ignored the injuries. I make reference to them as not helping our season. That much is obvious. But I do not see them as a major reason for being 2 points off relegation. At the end of the day there is only so much I can write about and fit into an article. I choose to focus on the major things that take priority (in my eyes) to the problems we are having and offer a possible solution.

    What solution could I give for having a couple of players out injured? The only thing I can do is give my opinion of who should replace them and formation etc. Which I have done consistently.

    There so many things going wrong I cant mention them all.

  • 210 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Bano.2/3 injured 1st teamer’s per game is massive when you have a small squad like our’s,it’s ok when your City or Chelsea because the top teams have 2 quality players in each position,we haven’t and the young players who have came in have not been good enough.

  • 211 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Bano

    Failing to consider that while Cabaye was out injured we also lost Tiote to suspension for 3 games, Colo to suspension for 3 games, Krul was injured for a month at the start of the season, Saylor long term injured, Simpson was missing for 3/4 games at the start of the season with no ready replacement RB, Raylor who was a key squad player last season out for the entire season, along with our 2 best players in HBA and Cabs.

    And suddenly injuries aren’t that important in defining why we’ve had a poor season? Seriously? Are you that adamant that this is to be pinned on Pardew that you fail to acknowledge what is right in front of you?

  • 212 Mashley u Batfastard & lambiarse u Cupid stunt // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Oldgit under 21′s don’t count

  • 213 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Toon Bano- if you take Cabaye and HBA out of the midfield you can reasonably expect there to be an impact on team performance. As recently as last Saturday just look at the 17 man squads of PL teams. Then look specifically as the bench contingent. Not just the top sides in the league but the lower sides and compare our subs to theirs. Little could be done to change things meaningfully.

  • 214 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Wow…what have I missed? Everyone embracing the joy of new players I see :)

  • 215 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    18 man squads

  • 216 WWYCD // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Ruddy
    Colo staying until the summer would be huge for us although I question his captaining ability his general performance is constantly fantastic. Also think if Sissoko came in Tiote would be back to his best reckon he would get his fire and belief back plus he’d be under pressure for his spot something which he has never had while in our colours

    Only thing left is for us to start picking up points now

  • 217 Tsunki // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    The way I look back on the season is that Pardew was convinced against his better judgement to ride out the season with his first choices hopefully mostly staying fit, and new recruits hopefully measuring up to fill the gaps, after DL had overran his bargaining.

    The ‘Purples’ plan the possibly was pitched by DL in the first place failed badly.

    Cue the emergency January window as first opportunity to spend the cash that had been lying in the transfer fund since the failed summer, plus some speculative cash based on next season’s PL TV payouts. Pardew comes back into the boardroom, throws a copy of the results and league table standings on the desk and tells them to get their fingers out or he’s walking and your team is in the pop league and you can chuck those season tickets in the pot.

    problem for Pardew is he now has to prove himself right, so he’s got a half-season, let him do it, then offer your praise / criticism then.

  • 218 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Ah, its pointless. Let’s just be thankfull bano isn’t in charge at the toon, so he can’t unbalance things any more. Finally we have found somebody who’d mess the team up more than Dennis Wise and co.

  • 219 geordie157 // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    If Sheff Utd don’t get promoted this season, i’d like to see Harry Maguire snapped up.

    Also still feel we need another tom ince/nani type player, someone who can play on both wings in a 443 or 442

  • 220 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Ian, I have backed Pardew all season as he has been imo the victim of many things outside his control. Up until this week the only defender he has been allowed to bring in is Santon, most people would agree that most of his signings have been good in midfield and attack. Now he has got defenders in I hope and believe that my faith has been justified. The acid test for Pardew now is that with new signings coming in and players coming back results and performances improve. It has been a bit of a mare this season trying to argue that people look at the bigger picture. If I am wrong then I fully expect to take even more flak. Glad you have been keeping the faith and lets hope we are proved correct. Still Europe to play for and I hope Pardew puts out the best team possible. We could all do with a lift.

  • 221 Mister Tuff // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    What’s all this about fans being sheep. We may have some lost sheep like Ian Toon but I do not think I am a sheep but for the sake of experimentation I’ll give it a try :-
    Baaaaaaa, Baaaaaaa,Baaaaaa, Baaaaaaa, Baaaaaaa, Baaaaaaa.
    Oh dear, in view of recent events perhaps not such a good idea.

  • 222 Magickit // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Yoan Gouffran and Massadio Haidara have arrived at Newcastle United for medicals ahead of moves from France !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/video/54014

  • 223 AndyNUFC // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Funny, Bano, that you should have such a thriving, well publicised blog site that you feel the need to come on here, comment, oh and also be as nice as to give us all a link to your blog.

    I for one wouldn’t be seen dead on the blog. The horrible appearance, crappy layout (thanks for the ridiculously large posts.. the last being ‘ Newcastle after Rickie Lambert ‘ – you should write for the Daily Mail!) oh and self-indulgent “recommendations” on the site, it just makes me think you’ve got no mates and have to write as much as you can without wanting to just share news.

    I see now why you’d be here – Ed does this to perfection, want to get a recommendation off him??

  • 224 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Toon Bano
    Looking at ruddys post @211 then also add too it cabs has not actually been fully fit this season with an injury carrying over from the euros, guti missing through injury, marv only playing first team football for the first time in nearly 2 years and then throw in the fact we have a captain, out supposed leader on the pitch, who not only wants out but has been woeful at times this season and suddenly form and injuries have a huge impact on a thread bare squad

  • 225 Markaccus // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Ibiza. Its all pardews fault.
    Bano is off to write an article about how pardew was the second gunman behind the grassy knoll, best mates with Jimmy Saville, and has Maddy mccann in his cellar.

  • 226 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    #207 Munster you have hit a specific nail on the head there. The reason I have such a consistent vilification of Pardew is that he gets a free ride in the press and by many fans still. This annoys me no end and fuels me sometimes. It may result in certain articles looking like I am only interested in attacking him. I am not. I want AP to turn this around as much as anybody.

    Even after the Reading debacles AP still gets away with it. Even after he ‘admitted’ making a mistake over the Marv sub. Incredible. The man is Teflon.

    I saw earlier a bloke on Sunday Supplement saying he feels sorry for Pardew. It’s hilarious really.

    We have rightly sacked previous managers for much less than what AP has done this season. Do any of you disagree with the Souness, Roeder and Fat Sam sackings? Do we miss them.

    If we sacked AP tomorrow I reckon not many people would be saying, “I wish we had AP back” as they would struggle to think of an actual reason why.

    His positivity? His tactical nous? His motivational skills? His organisation of the defence (that used to be his strength)? His intelligent substitutions? His love of being in Europe? His impressive domestic cup record?

    Shall I go on?

  • 227 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Munster

    Well surely I can be forgiven for past misdemeanours now? The insults rarely fly these days :P

    I don’t think everything Pardew does is correct, and I often find myself frustrated at post match interviews too but in my view the Pardew message to the camera may not be the same message he delivers in the dressing room, he placates and smiles to the camera but I reckon he is a tougher task master behind closed doors.

    His comments about the youngsters were not intended for all the young players but, in my opinion, directed at Tav, Sammy and Abeid, who I believe think they are better than they really are. Sammy may think he is assured a career at the club as he is an Ameobi but he needs to be made aware that his performances aren’t good enough and if he needs to put that rocket up their backsides on a TV camera to get the best out of them then so be it.

    The FKS are one of the most disappointing elements of this season and one that he certainly needs to take a fresh approach to. The Senegalese FA excuse, well I always think club before country because I don’t value Internationals highly but if Cisse wanted to play he should have been allowed to play, no questions asked.

  • 228 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/gerard-houllier-warns-newcastle-their-french-1551012?

    *Lets get Pardew to French night school :) and lets get him a French coach to help him out :D

  • 229 fray bentos // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Its my view that the failures of this season are down to 4 things, they are;

    Lack of investment in summer
    Injury problems
    Bad managment by Pardew
    Certain players not peforming (perhaps due to lack of investment and problem in dressing room)

    Which of these is the worse? i don’t know and i want to claim im completely right ie Bano

    But is it unfair to possibly only single out Pardew, i think so, there are many other factors involved which could be more of the cause

    Did we play poor before the injuries mounted up, yes but the dressing up and players could be just as accountable as this as Pardew, and besides managers will make mistakes but its whether they learn from them, in the seasons case maybe the injuries stopped him from solving the problems, who knows.

    As for the reading game, i definately think we lost due to Pardew and him changing tactics after we scored to a more defensive tactic and taking Marveaux off who in my opinion was the best player alongside Anita on the day

    For me the jury is still out on Pardew but it would be really backward sacking him now, but why don’t we use the rest of the season to rank him accordingly based on what he does with the new players and Ben Arfa back.

  • 230 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    …and has Colo’s father spilled the beans about the Colo debacle yet?

    *gotta be a conclusion soon (why do I need to know so badly :( lol)

  • 231 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Bano, Pardew was slated for “making excuses” and also now slated for saying he got the Marv sub wrong. Regardless of what he says he is always in the wrong.

  • 232 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Bano

    The “Marv mistake” wasn’t even a massive mistake! He subbed Marv instead of Cabaye and then suddenly and unexpectedly, Cabaye feels a slight tightness which forces Pardew to make another change, a change he didn’t want to make.

    His hands were tied due to the poor bench we had, and if you turn around and say “why did he bring on Bigi and not Obertan” my response would be that Obertan has been slated as not being good enough by NUFC fans from the day and hour he got to the club, and if he is the best attacking threat we have on the bench then that surely is an indictment of how poor and threadbare our options are?

  • 233 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Bano….I just want to say, that whilst I’m definitely not on your side of thinking, I do and have acknowledged in the past when I thought you were spot on (Although it is rare :) ), so it’s not a case of a personal vendetta against you.

    So…your recent article and my thoughts.

    You’re right, not one of the Reading’s starting 11 would get in to ours. However, when we were playing with both starting 11s on the pitch, we were winning and playing better….so that’s not really the point, is it?

    The options at Pardews dispense are woeful and we all know it. Reading had a game changer on their bench, we had Obertan.

    Whilst Pardew certainly has his weaknesses, incidentally you’ve done a stellar job at highlighting them…kudos, he knows where the weaknesses are and has been trying to get them upgraded.

    Defense is a big problem and has been for a while. For me, his defensive set out is to try and combat that weakness. You could argue that he should adopt a Keegan mind set and just attack and not worry about conceding so much, but when we have a misfiring attack, which we do, it’s not really a great gamble imo.

    I think many peoples gripe is not your opinion, but that you don’t seem to leave any window of opportunity that Pardew if backed properly can do a decent enough job.

    We saw last year, and you even claimed on this thread you appreciated it, that Pardew is willing to open up and attack. That happened with a full strength squad full of confidence…remind me when he’s had that this season?

    Maybe another manager could of handled the situations better this season, “maybe”, our point is that we doubt highly that Ashley would replace him with someone better, so surely the best plan is to back Pardew and let him build something, rather than just make do with a squad we all said needs revamping.

    Give the guy a chance before you write him off.

  • 234 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Ian, i’m not sure that having Tiote out was all that bad – he’s been poor all season. And whilst Cabaye is key, Anita has been doing well, and Marv hasnt been pleyed enough, given his creativity. You know i dont want change now, and would rather pards stayed and improved, but the football, the free kicks, the mess with ba / cisse , the negative tactics, and constantly asking for new players – I think he deserves a lot of questions and to ignore that is daft. I dont see Norwich or others getting loads of players – so the pressure is on Pards. And rightly so. Do you not see many criticisms this year ?

  • 235 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    To all of you that are reminding me of the injuries we have had at various stages.

    Are you actually telling me that those injuries you speak of are the major reason why a team that finished 5th last year, with a stronger first XI going into this season, with more available squad members such as Marv being fit, Anita better than Guthrie, Perch being now reliable rather than a joke figure this time last year are struggling on 21 points after losing at home against Reading?

    Are you actually being serious? Take away your opinion of me and look at the situation objectively.

    Do yourselves a favour and compare our available squad in the matched we have played to those around us in the league and the team we played on the day.

    The argument does not match up.

  • 236 Munster Mag // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Ruddy, it was ridiculous to take off Marv when Cabaye was only back from injury. Asking for trouble. Cabaye was never likely to finish out a full game.

  • 237 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Fray- Reading were clearly going to up their game in the second half.
    They were given extra impetus when Williamson gifted them the first goal and not for the first time cracks began to show in the defence. We just didn’t have the players to close the game down . Our good fortune as in the WBA game was unlikely to be repeated. Too many players have shown a lack of determination when things are not going well. Contrast the spirit in the Reading side. Also Coloccini is not an inspirational figure this season whereas as captain he should be. Contrast Nolan in the role.

  • 238 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Bano

    So Cisse’s goals drying up, HBA and Cabaye being injured, missing a constant stream of first team players all season isn’t enough to convince you that it isn’t all Pardew?

    If we compare our available first XIs they would generally be strong. But be real man, our squad is piss poor, Fergie isn’t cutting it, Perch is our go to man for both CB and CDM, Bigi is a bright talent but we need to be careful with him, Obertan has never been a world beater, Sammy Ameobi is a lazy git, Ranger is a pr@t, and Adam Campbell is 18.

    How is our squad better than most PL teams?

  • 239 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Bano could learn a thing or two from Munster….has his issues with the situation and has doubts about what is achievable with Pardew but remains open minded.

    It’s the reason I enjoy his posts so much. A reasoned guy who is open to debate without his ego…o…o…o

    Ed….can you sort out that echo?

  • 240 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Bano
    So the pardew out campaign is based soley on the reading result

  • 241 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Mr Tuff- Good afternoon. I am probably suffering from a humour by- pass. But is the reference to sheep suggesting that I follow Pardew blind.?

  • 242 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Munster

    I agree. I actually made that point a little earlier, that he still should have brought on Perch when he did but instead of subbing Marv it should have been Cabaye but it is understandable why he made that decision given how well Cabaye had been playing and that he was operating under the assumption that he would last 90mins.

    He made a gamble in an attempt to keep his most dangerous creative player on the field and choke out the midfield but it backfired. He admitted that he made a mistake and I accept that.

  • 243 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Ruddy – What Muster said. Did you expect Cabs to play 90 mins? Why did the manager? You say we had a lack of options. I agree. Our bench was a bit bare. But we had the option of Obertan…AP chose not to use it. That is the issue. Ap complained of a lack of flair players on the pitch. He CHOSE not to bring them on until it was too late.

    Ibiza – I personally have lost all faith with AP. I have been giving him a chance all season. The thread was getting bearer by the week. The Reading game has snapped it.

    If I could see any way of AP turning this season around then I would latch onto it like a leech and pray to God it works. But I dont. AP has shown me literally nothing as to how he is going to turn this season around. Its getting worse rather than better.

    Set pieces are still non-existent. Defence is getting worse. Attack now lack any ambition or belief. I am lookiing around and I cant see anything.

    Help me out. What do you see about AP that suggests he can save us?

  • 244 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Bano

    Both issues you have raised with regards bringing Cabaye off and the fact that he did not bring Obertan on, I have already dealt with.

    See #232 and 242

  • 245 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Bano

    So signing a new LB, a new CB, a new winger/CF and potentially a new CDM, all of whom will boost the quality of our squad, coupled with the fact that Cabaye is now fit, Marveaux is playing better, Saylor is coming back from injury along with a certain Hatem Ben Arfa does not inspire even the slightest bit of confidence that Pardew can salvage this season in some way shape or form?

  • 246 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Oh and the fact that we’ve also finally got the much coveted RB we’ve been after

  • 247 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Munster- there is always a different composition if you take a component part out. Players have strengths and weaknesses. Tiote is not suddenly a poor player he has just not played well this season. Often it’s just a question of confidence being low and fragile. I agree there can be no excuses once a manager has been backed financially.
    I see this though as a watershed.

  • 248 Jimbothemag // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Hi everyone this is my first ever post on here. Read it for many years. Finally feel I want to chip in.

    Toonbano – Not to stick the boot in and whilst I respect your opinion regarding the injuries and number of injuries being a major factor. I personally speaking feel you are being naive in your outlook. It is not as simple as looking at the number of players out at any one time. What you have to consider is that for large chunks of last season Pardew was able to field his first choice (or at least a consistent partnership) in most areas of the team. I.e. Tiote, Cabaye and Guttierez as the main stay of the midfield. And in the second half of the season a fairly settled defence that consisted of Santon, Williamson, Colocinni and Simpson. Also for the second half of last season he consistently had Ben Arfa, Ba and Cisse playing up front. This consistency in terms of formation and playing staff lead to the stability that you talk about. This season the team is constantly moving or changing through key injuries etc. I can’t remember the last time Cabaye and Tiote (While I think he is actually horrendously out of form at the minute) actually played together. Whilst there are many other issues that need addressing, in terms of tactics and player performances etc.

    I do feel you are naive in your opinion that the injuries have not had that much impact, we have a small squad that cannot alternate it’s playing staff frequently without seeing performances dip, if the top teams, Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham had the same injuries to their key players at similar stages of the season that we have had they would not be challenging for the title and would have been a long way off the pace for the title even with their much larger and stronger squads.

    That said however, I do respect your opinion and agree that the injuries are one factor, but I don’t think you have actually considered the full impact they have had as it is not always as black and white as just numbers.

  • 249 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Bano….Must warn you now, you wont like my response.

    Last year Pardew showed us what he can do with a good starting 11. Some have said they weren’t happy with last season, which I find baffling too say the least and find little point addressing, if that wasn’t good enough, little will be (not implying that’s your view, as you’ve clearly stated you were happy with our run last season).

    I honestly believe that is where he is trying to get us to. Injuries haven’t been terrible all season, but the key players of last seasons success have not been consistently available this season, nor have they played anywhere near the same standard when they have played.

    Cabaye was clearly carrying a knock based on his display against Reading.

    Colo’s head is elsewhere, we’re starting to get a better picture of this now.

    Cisse can’t pull off what he did with ease last year.

    I can go on, but that’s 3 hugely important players right there who contributed to our success.

    People say to compare our starting 11 to others, but for me it’s just not that simple. We clearly lack depth and that is a huge issue.

    We’ve not been able to get any rhythm or confidence going this year, which really is so important. I’d fancy a team of no names in form against a team of superstars that are so out of whack it’s laughable.

    I do believe that many issues have been out of Pardews hands this season, which is why I back him to turn it around.

    I have said before though that there are issues to be addressed, which are worrying.

    Issues like:

    Coming back from conceding first to win.

    Scoring from set pieces.

    However, there have been bigger issues at hand this season, so I can accept these have been downgraded from high priority for now.

    Ashley has done his bit or should I say is doing his bit now, Pardew needs to show everyone that he can turn it around. I’m not expecting miracles out of Pardew, I never did, but I can see him taking us forward from what he took over, which was a mid-table team noted down for relegation.

    I see better things around the corner, we will see.

  • 250 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Tequilamag- I do think Pardew is not very good or convincing in front of the cameras. He’s less nervous face to face and his body language is relaxed. It is not hard to anticipate what your going to be asked.
    but he often appears ill prepared. Something for him to work on. Keegan used to practice in front of the mirror and always appeared passionate. Pardew often says too much. Mind you he is not helped by not having a proper eloquent articulate Chief Executive.

  • 251 ToonBano // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Basically the only hope we have of staying up this season is these new signings and players back from injury get us out of it.

    That says a lot about what the managers abilities are. You never here people say Pardew has ‘x’ or ‘y’ or ‘z’ to change the club around.

    What I think this comes down to is some fans ‘fell in love’ with AP last season as this club has been starved of any success in the PL since Bobby was here. That’s why whenever people choose to support him the refer back to last season.

    I and other no doubt are getting bored now.

    Moving on?

  • 252 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Munster— I look forward to the time when we don’t have such limited players on the payroll: Simpson. Williamson, Gosling, Raylor,
    Ameobi(Shola), Ranger, Xisco,

  • 253 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Bano

    In my support of Pardew I don’t constantly talk about last season, but given how well he had done it is understandable why many back him due to this fact. We had achieved European football for the first time since 2006 and many are grateful to Pardew for that.

    Pardew has never been given the chance to turn bad patches around as he has always found the boot on the backside before he has that chance so now, with better players at his disposal, we will truly see the measure of the man.

    As for the “only hope we have of staying up this season is these new signings and players back from injury get us out of it” , well that stands to reason that when we have a fit squad with better quality added that we have a better chance of turning this slump around.

    But your calls for him to be sacked immediately are wrong, and I think even you acknowledge that by now.

  • 254 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Ian, I agree but I also think people place too much importance on Pardews public statements. When things are going badly and people already have an axe to grind then whatever he says will be construed in a negative light. Damned if he offers excuses damned if he concedes he has made mistakes.People make much of Fergies so called master of mindgames reputation, to me he comes across as someone who is barely in control of his emotions.

  • 255 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Toonbano – After a season in which everything that could go right did, were currently toiling under the strain of the polar opposite. Fans have struggled to remain supportive. The history of the club tells them that pain and suffering is the norm. If we get our act together and survive then next season why shouldn’t we have a real go on a number of fronts. In the meantime. forget the preconceptions and support the relegation battle. Right minded fans don’t in all honesty hold much store by what you write but there are some that do.

  • 256 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    tequila- just between you and me a very high number either deliberately or otherwise misconstrue what he does say.

  • 257 Ian Toon // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Tequila- I have to go a see a man about your dog.

  • 258 tequilamag // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Ian, what a coincidence, just about to tale Lola the Lurcher out. Catch you later

  • 259 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    God you are so tiresome, think you’re so subtle.

  • 260 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Bano…No, i’m talking about progress, not staying up. As of the minute, whilst things aren’t looking great, we’re not in the relegation spots.

  • 261 DokToon // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    baaaah, baaah… (bleats good morning )

    :)

  • 262 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 23, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Baaaah Dok…we’re on a new thread :)

  • 263 NUFC_LEAZES END // Jan 23, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    @geordie157 #21

    Yeah a nufcblog league should be created on fifa, as I hate when people i play online are always Madrid, barca, or juventus or summit.

  • 264 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 23, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Toon bano is right!

    Heres a list for the deluded fans…

    Not rotating the two dembas
    Playing people out of position
    Negative lineups with only 1 creative mid
    Playing willo, guti and shola
    Clueless subtitutions
    Hoofball tactics
    Sitting back and defend a 1 goal deficite

    Stop defending pardew and see that our nans would of done a better job this season, injuries included!

    Pardews obviously here to stay, or atleast until the summer. We just have to hope these new signings can give the team a lift and kick willo guti and shola out the first team. Wel then hopefully climb the table and make pardew look special again!




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