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Spurs Challenge Newcastle For Dutch Striker

11:17 am, Sunday, January 27th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 318 Comments

News in Metro today that Tottenham Hotspur are ready to challenge Newcastle for Sporting Lisbon striker Ricky van Wolfswinkel, but Newcastle have also bid over the last day or so for Vitesse striker Wilfried Bony (£12M) –  the Ivory Coast International, and St. Etienne turned down a €10.5M bid (£8.6M) for their 23 year-old striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang only yesterday.

Sporting CP's Dutch forward Ricky van Wo

Ricky van Wolfswinkel – Newcastle interested

So Ricky van Wolfswinkel isn’t the only top striker on Newcastle’s radar screen during the last four days of this January transfer window – and it’s the lad’s 24th birthday today – so happy birthday Ricky.

The player’s agent Louis Laros has already talked about Newcastle’s interest in his player, and apparently Norwich City and Chris Hughton are also interested in the Dutch International.

This what Laros has said:

‘I know Newcastle are interested.’ ‘I will not mention clubs because it is a private matter, (so why mention Newcastle?), but I can say that in England there is great interest in Ricky.’

We’re not sure there’s any new news in this report in the Metro – but Sporting Lisbon would be more than willing to accept a decent cash bid from say Newcastle - because they are in need of some cool cash – like a number of other European football clubs thee days.

The advantage Newcastle have over other clubs in the transfer market is they pay the full transfer fee up front in cool cash – unlike the vast majority of English clubs – who don’t even have the money to buy players – so they pay the transfer fee over a number years (they pay for it with future earnings is another way to look at it) – just like Newcastle used to do under Freddy Shepherd.

The value Lisbon put on the player is around £10M – and that seems a decent price for a player who Newcastle could bring in over the next four days.

Newcastle have already bid around that amount for both Bony and Aubameyang, so it seems like Mike Ashley could be looking for the best deal among those three strikers.

It’s very likely we’ll end up with one of those strikers at Newcastle before Friday – and either  one of them would be a good (great?) acquisition for Newcastle this month – wouldn’t they?

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318 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JAMSHA // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Chris Hughton confirmed his
    interest in Ricky van Wolfswinkel after
    Norwich City’s shock FA Cup defeat by
    Luton Town, but the Sporting Lisbon
    striker could prove expensive. According to
    the Sunday Mirror, Sporting want
    £12million for Van Wolfswinkel after
    rejecting Norwich’s initial offer of £8m.

  • 2 Spreadthetoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Not on my watch, come to the Toon Ricky, we have that continental flair like no other! :)

  • 3 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    This guy would love feeding off Ben Arfa, Cabs and Sissoko in behind defences. One guy i feel for after our recruitment drive is young Bigi. He has done himself proud considering his age and previous experience but will now spend the rest of the season playing reserve football i guess. Hope he gets to play in the EL KO stage as he played a huge part in us getting there..

  • 4 Marty-Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Ian Toon …reply from previous post on Tiotes performance
    Ian toon
    I seen the game,he was lucky as he had a badly timed tackle on an opposition player but otherwise nothing special.
    He lay very deep and took the ball from defence as usual,payed some good passes,but stayed very deep and was seldom far up the field.
    Sometimes it seemed as if he slowed down their opportunities of counter attacks with his defensive minded play,much the same as he does here.
    But he sure looked like a beast and very little got through him.
    They had a tall,skinny young lad up front that looked very good with nice flick ons and quick.Dont know what his name was now

  • 5 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Think he’s a more realistic target than bonu or pea doubt he’d cost as much as being touted and we’ve been tracking him for a couple of years now
    Didnt PEA say he was in contact with bith manc clubs over a summer move?
    Anyone else want to see us bring in colo’s replacement now? He’s gone in the summer and would help us if we could rotate a back line with some class players and start bedding in our future CB pairing

  • 6 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Spread

    Morning mate

    Ref your rant yesterday that I was stating facts about a striker in for Chelsea. Think you mis understood. I was stating a fact that Demba ba needs replacing as a priority and in my opinion a striker will be in ready for Chelsea and not for villa. It’s was an opinion not fact mate. Thought I would square that one up mate

  • 7 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Bony has an incredible goals to game ratio but would also disappear for ACON duty along with Cisse.

    A dutch striker makes much more sense as we are heavy on the frenchmen and along with Krul and Anita would help to balance things out.

  • 8 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Ricky van Wolfswinkel, Wilfried Bony, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang perm any one from three.

    If we got any one from the three would top off an excellent transfer window.

  • 9 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    if cisse can not score and stay onside with this much creativity in the team now ^^

    so many different line ups we can pick now and i’m changing my opinions on what would be the best striker to have to compliment cisse and gouffran now and maybe it is bony with his strength as the other 2 are not as solid and ameobi just wants the boot now.

  • 10 Toon1978 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Lee Ryder saying we have not made a bid for Bony. TBH, i haven’t seen much of Bony, Aubamayang or RVW. Judging by the reports i have seen RVP seem’s the most possible of the three. TBH, i will not be disappointed if a striker does not come in. I am very happy with what we have and Ashley has really surprised me big time.

  • 11 chris_g // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Ed says:
    “….but Newcastle have also bid over the last day or so for Vitesse striker Wilfried Bony (£12M) – the Ivory Coast International”

    but Lee Ryder says:

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder
    From what I understand there has been no bid for Wilfried Bony of Vitesse Arnhem #nufc

  • 12 Spreadthetoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Proud
    No worries mate, I think I read your posts at 2am so I was probably a little short! :(

    I think though if it is your opinion its sometimes to just as easy to put in “IMO”, cos’ the post came across as if you were stating something as a fact even though that may not have been your intention that’s all! Anyway no hard feelings, I enjoy reading your posts :)

  • 13 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Is he rapid? We need someone rapid upfront to compliment Cisse who can also play out wide

  • 14 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    As bony is ivorian he would be away for ages along with tiote as they are one of the best teams.

    Having two top african strikers is a bad move in my opinion and should be avoided at all costs.

  • 15 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    on the upside i heard theres a young 18yo called cambell we could get for nothing at a club called newcastle (maybe worth a punt :-) )

  • 16 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Chris_g
    Oh wow we all know how reliable lee ryder is…..

  • 17 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    These striker rumours are very speculative too. No solid quotes. For all we know our business could be over, Gouffran has some pedigree and compliments cisse perfectly.

  • 18 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    @17

    and gouffrans fast

  • 19 daztoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Wow have to agree with spuggy on this one one

  • 20 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    If Colo wants out in the summer, where will he go?

    Is San Lorenzo the only option or will he play for another Argentinian club?

    We want a fee for him no matter what.
    He should put in a transfer request too.

  • 21 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    I think our business is done. I would love to stand corrected and see us get another top striker but if it is it’s been one of the best windows ever.

    Every position is under threat now, apart from Cabaye and HBA who are guarenteed starters.

  • 22 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Pardew did say something along the lines of “we are happy with the business we have done” which could simply mean so far or that we have finished for this window. Ideally another attacker (Striker or winger) and it would be the perfect window

  • 23 beefman13 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Its hottin up with time runnin out for us to get our direct replacement for BA, of course i gave a preferance for wilfried!!!! My bony lad!

  • 24 daztoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    If we are after a striker and are willing to pay in excess of around 10 million I think Shane Long would be worth a punt has now proved he is good enough for the prem

  • 25 irishmagpie95 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    I don’t know a lot about the a lot about the strikers we’ve been linked with PEA, RVW or Bony but from what everyone is saying they’ll offer us a foil for Cisse which would be class!

    Pardew in the interview about Zaha, mentions not making knee jerk reactions and buying for the future not the next 6 months, think he means Odemwingie
    http://www.football365.com/premier-league/8446027/-

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Who ever that can and will play out wide as an inside forward in a 4-4-3 gets my vote! :-D

  • 27 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Mail saying we’re going for Bony.
    They sometimes get our transfers right.

  • 28 one Tony Green // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    If Col has sent this letter he s a disgrace. Obviously his family are only important if he can leave for free.
    Jesus if you want to leave the armed forces before your contract is up you have to buy yourself out.

  • 29 tequilamag // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    jesp 443 is my preferred formation as well, shame we can only play 10 outfield players

  • 30 Toon1978 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    ……………………………Krul……………………..

    Debuchy…..Mbiwa………Collo…..Santon

    …………………..Cabaye……Tiote…………….

    HBA…………………..Sissoko………..Goufrann

    ……………………………Cisse……………………

    Not a bad full strength team imo. No Anita, Marveaux,Jonas,Obertan,R.Taylor,Bigi,Shola,Perch,
    Williamson,Simmo OR our new boy Hiedera. We really do have strength in depth now. Looking good lads.

  • 31 Spreadthetoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Proud
    Agree that we need another striker. My preference would be Siem De Jong which IMO I have a funny feeling that that may not be dead and buried. The reason why I say that is cos’ Siem has indicated that he will go to England of Germany in the summer. My question would be “why not now?”
    As for RVW not sure if he would have the same amount of time in the premiership, good first touch and control but is very much a striker and does not offer a great deal of width. Still think we may go back in for Florian Thauvin at the end of the window depending on who we get as a striker as Florian would be a great addition and could play out on the left.

  • 32 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Tequila…lol :-) I get what you’re saying mate

  • 33 toon smart // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    If we look at the bids being made for a striker so far e.g. remy, RVW and PEA, Newcastle has not bid more than 11 million euros, so for me i can rule out the money suggested in the Bony bid.

    I think we could do with abit more creativity, so a LW/SS would be best like Dries Mertens, Nacer Chadli, Ryad Boudebouz or Tom Ince

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    I think between gouffran, cisse, Ben arfa and cabaye we have enough goals to stay up.

    Ideally another striker in and a winger also.

    But we have had a great window so far.

    Gouffran’s pace will stretch teams which creates more room for Ben arfa and cabaye as well as cisse.

    If they all settle we have a great chance to climb the table to a solid mid table position

  • 35 tequilamag // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Joking aside mate, I would like a forward who can play wide left.

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Anyone
    Read odemwingies meltdown? He reckons we were in for him last jan
    Bullet well and truly dodged!

  • 37 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    lee ryder – waste of space
    mick lowes bbc radio newcastle seems to have his figer on the pulse
    as he said two weeks ago that the toon would get at least four players in.
    see what he has to say tomorrow on radio newcastle

  • 38 Spreadthetoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    If Fernabahce miss out on Younes Belhander I wouldn’t mind, in fact I’d love it if NUFC putting in a cheaky little bid. This is the lad we’re missing IMO and is exactly like HBA on the left and has got bags and bags of tricks!

  • 39 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Don’t forget sissoko has goals in him, scores 5-6 a season which is as good as Cabaye’s return.

  • 40 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    my team

    ———————–krul————————
    -debuchy—mbiwa–collo——-santon–
    ———————anita————————
    ————–cabaye—marv——————
    ——arfa———–cisse—-gouff———–

    but…..hold on i left out tiote/sissoko….ah bugger too many good players now but i would def stick with the back 4 and the front 3 :-)
    maybe start with tiote in place of anita untill he gets his gamely booking and sissoko in place of marv and bring marv on to brighten things up as the supersub.

  • 41 outsidethebox // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    goufranns price does not reflect his ability as with sissoko it was more to do with contract…
    the ability to hit ground running becomes the main problem
    anita ,marveaux are just coming on their game.(giroud has taken half a season).
    expect mbai to start with taylor on bench
    haddira on bench in case either fb gets injured
    sissoko to start and see how he adapts
    gouffran to be on bench to be brought on if chasing game ..
    sorry if this sounds negative but thats how i see it ..
    what a team we be able to put out when benny and tiote are back and mbai and sissoko bedded in …

  • 42 Paps // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    F off spurs

  • 43 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Wow,1st time i’ve seen this Sissoko goal,quality. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doOaGiQrM00

  • 44 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Spuggy, I reckon Cabs in the CAM position could easily get 10+ a season. All those saying we need a SS/CF, nope. One LW/ST (Remy grr) and we’d be set. I’d go for Belhanda or Mertens.

  • 45 magpiebop // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    GK, CB and ST still needed in my opinion!

  • 46 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    As far as I can find out then RVW can either play as a forward or an withdrawn striker; PEA can operate as an inside forward on the right or as a striker and Bony is a poacher just like Cisse!

  • 47 Alan Pas-de-clue // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Striker that can play wide left who will hit the ground running around the 10m Mark who is out of favour at current club…

    Anyone think welbeck worth a shout, would boost homegrown quota

  • 48 alf // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    The spendings not over yet 3 more in before the deadline, and Simpson will be moved on as well!

  • 49 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 27, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    I though Welbeck played on the right?

  • 50 TorqToon // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Have proud and spread made friends?! There’s a lot of love in the room again! :-)

    I know I sound like a broken record – but it’s RVW all day long for me! Not sure spurs is a viable option imo, possibly just paper talk or the club / agent trying to increase interest in the player and up the fee.

    Still can see this one happening.

  • 51 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    With another striker you have to think if cisse (on form) is injured what then. Who plays up front. Gouffran can like, that’s where he scored most of his goals this season so perhaps a striker who can play wide AND score a lot is what we need.

    Difficult to say until we see how everyone performs together after they’ve bedded in, in which case it may be best to wait til summer.

  • 52 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Also we need to be looking at getting some of our fringe players out on loan to gain some experience as been stuck in the reserves for the rest of the season getting no where near our bench might damage there frail confidence they have at the mo. look what Curtis good has done at Bradford. He has been pure quality from what I have seen so get some of them out on loan

  • 53 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Jayden

    Fair point, Cabs if played in 10 role will get 10+ with Sissoko/HBA/Anita/Tiote/Mbiwa/Debuchy/Santon behind him.

  • 54 Kekasa // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    While I am happy to see Simpson move on in the Summer, is it worth forgoing the $400k in order to keep him as a back-up in case of further injuries? Presumably Santon will move to RB, leaving Haidara on the left. But I worry that, with R Taylor still out, Simpson’s departure would still leave us rather thin in that position.

  • 55 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Lol 5v1 in that sissoko goal – hilarious.

  • 56 jrb // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    This is great stuff to read now – all positive – I have to agree with Spreadthetoon on Siem de Jong, I watched a utube compilation of him and he reminds me of Johann Cruyff – very special skills. Go get him Ash.

  • 57 Kekasa // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Wrong currency: GBP, not USD

  • 58 TorqToon // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/5981774/Spurs-bid-for-Moussa-Sissoko-rebuffed.html

    Love this….

  • 59 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Kekasa

    Anita can cover fullback if needed.

  • 60 Robby Bobson // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Lads i wouldnt get too excited over a new striker coming in, i think PEA interest was before we splashed the cash and we got gouffran for cheap instead and invested elsewhere.

    Not being a neggar but really cant see is spending another 10 mill..

  • 61 naptoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    lee ryder understands nowt he chips in after a story breaks and more often than not is wrong he said we hadnt bid for haidara we had bid for butland remy was signed and so on….

  • 62 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    @Robby

    Agreed.

  • 63 hugotoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Does anyone know if Bony has pace because thats what we need in a new striker??

  • 64 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    When you look a Sissoko and Gosling.
    They play similar positions and roles.

    Makes you wonder why we are bothering with most of our youngsters, they suddenly appear very very light-weight.

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Who ever we sign I hope some will loan out the younglings until the summer!

    …they need it (and we need it)

    Fergy, Sammi, Abeid, Tav, Drummet and Ranger (or release him) are all candidates for me.

    Any news on a proposed offer for Xisco?

  • 66 Alan Pas-de-clue // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Jesper I’m not sure he just sort of floats up top.

    What we have now is vital competition for places

    Gk krul Elliot
    Rb debuchy simpson
    Cb mbiwa colo Taylor willo
    Lb santon haidara
    Cdm tiote Anita bigi perch
    Ram hba obertan
    Cam cabaye sissoko
    Lam marv Gutierrez
    St cisse gouffran

    That’s two in every position forgetting some fringe players and youth players that can now be loaned out. Could still do with more up top but we look good

  • 67 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    I think we have enough cover at fullback to allow Simpson to go this January. We would save on his wages and get a small fee, perhaps enough to cover what gouffran, haidara or sissoko signed for.

    Can anyone actually see us signing another striker now? I would be pleasantly surprised if we did and some of the names being branded about are good players. Anyone think Campbell could so a job on the left of a front three? He has plenty of pace and seems head of Sammy for me. Very disappointed with Sammy and would rather Campbell was given cameos

  • 68 Kekasa // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Spuggy

    I forgot about Anita. I’d personally rather see him in the midfield, as I think he’s been great there – one of the only player’s who’s managed to keep their spirits up the past couple of months and shown consistency. A genuine challenger for Tiote’s spot. But given our depth in the middle, I guess Anita would be a suitable RB back-up. Perch is also a possibility. It will be good to have Ryan back again, though I’m not sure how much first team time he’ll be able to get now.

  • 69 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    OMG

    Xisco – what a farce, he’s made the bench probably twice.

    Ridiculous signing.

  • 70 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Anita seems to be taking a bit of criticism on twitter, few fans stating tiote does a better job. I think the higher up the pitch Anita is the better he looks.

  • 71 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Do we loan Bigi out next season, or keep him around Cabs, Anita, Tiote etc?

  • 72 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Anita has been consistently better than tiote this season, who has by his standards been dreadful.

    Of course an on form tiote is better than anything we have yet seem from anita (manu 3-0 was unplayable).

    I agree anita looks better playing tic tac further up, not sure how he is a DMF I think he’s much more a ball playing forward minded CM who likes give and go’s and short accurate passing.

  • 73 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Nick 9

    On current form tiptoe couldn’t lace Anita’s boots imo

  • 74 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Fergy, Dummet and Tav … will they ever be better than Debuchy, Santon, Haidara?

    Abeid has gone backwards.
    Sammi will he be better than Marv, HBA, Gouffron, Amalfiano, Obertan

    Ranger … well just a shame really, he might of made it big. Now he’s toxic.

  • 75 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Anita Marv and cabaye run the midfield first half at reading.

  • 76 TorqToon // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    @GFN_France: #Haidara on #Newcastle move: “I can grow here. Even if the club is in 16th, it is one of the biggest in England, with many great players”

    @GFN_France: #Haidara continued: “I came to compete (with Davide #Santon). I have come to Newcastle to raise my level and reach new levels.”

    Some great words by Massadio Maidara.

  • 77 Alan Pas-de-clue // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Spuggy Anita was originally a lb then turned cdm. Cam is well out of his comfort zone but maybe Carr saw something in anita that made him think he could do a job further up the pitch. I still see him as a dm and ATM a better one than tiote

  • 78 Robby Bobson // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Anita not a destroyer or going to pick a killer pass so hes a player who will always need a tiote/sissiki and a cabaye with him…but hes a perfect compliment for them two as hes a busy little playrr and keeps us ticking over…

  • 79 Paps // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Really wondering why anita is getting criticized – he’s been outstanding imo. I cant think of a situation where hes lost the ball. Much better then tiote this season and his goal in the europa league was a beauty

  • 80 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    IMO Bigi and vuckic are our brightest youngsters, followed by fergy and campbell, then Dummet Good and Streete.

  • 81 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Mark Douglas also reporting that we haven’t bid for Bony.

  • 82 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Cant see simpson going anywhere he’s just started training again and doesn’t seem bothered about lising his place looking at his twiiter he’s spent most his time in manchester whilst injured

  • 83 Alan Pas-de-clue // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    I still think a team of
    Krul
    Debuchy mbiwa colo santon
    Anita sissoko
    Hba cabaye marveaux
    Cisse

    Is a balanced team with a clear passing ball playing philosophy which we have been lacking

    With bench options of obertan gouffran sammy if we need pace injection or tiote Gutierrez perch ameobi if we need to shore things up

  • 84 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Tbh anita has been our saving grace since caba gas been out i’d start him over tiote any day of the week on current form

  • 85 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Great that we have both Tiote and Anita. Now we have more depth the whole team will be playing for their shirts.

    Shows how talented is Anita is to play that position without the brute force of Tiote.

  • 86 yo-yo // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Why is Anita getting stick ?
    He’s quality, keeps his head up, grafts, eye for a good pass. He’s not Mr. Stopper but we are building a team not 11 individuals and he’s a more versatile link man in mid than people give him credit for.

    Could Marv cover the wide /inside left forward position even temporarily until the summer, rather than get the wrong forward mix now to fill the Ba gap ?

  • 87 SupaToonKid // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Younes Belhanda could be going to Fenerbache for €9M (£7.67M). Come on Ashley let’s get in there with an £8M bid and put him on the RW with Ben Arfa on the left.

  • 88 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Compare:
    ~~~~~~~~~~~Harper~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Simpson~Williamson~Coloccini~Santon
    Ben Arfa~Cabaye~Tiote~Gutierrez
    ~~~~~~~~~Cisse~Ba~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    with

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Krul~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Debuchy~Yanga-M’Biwa~Coloccini~Santon
    ~~~~~~~~~2 of Anita/Tiote/Sissoko~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~Ben Arfa~Cabaye~Marveaux~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Cisse~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Because that is our change in fortune.

  • 89 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Jayden

    Where do you fit goofy into that team

  • 90 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Simmo won’t be an expensive player to keep until the summer.

    …wouldn’t sell him if it was me :-)

  • 91 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Proud; call it strength in depth.

    It’s the same problem with CDM :D

  • 92 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Oh, by the way..

    HAR DE HAR @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21220778

  • 93 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Jayden

    What does that mean. When did we sign him lol

  • 94 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    CDM = Central Defensive Midfielder if that’s what you mean.

    I prescribe FIFA 13.

  • 95 Andymax // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    LOL, Chelsea losing 1-0 to Brentford.

  • 96 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Jayden

    No mate. I meant strength in depth. Is that a new word in the toon dictionary as I’ve never heard that word been mentioned to our club for a while. Come on mate smell the coffee lol

  • 97 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Oh, gotcha. Still not up to speed from last night.

    Need summat stronger than coffee, I tell ya.

  • 98 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    I hope Benitez doesn’t get sacked before they play us,they’re getting worse by the week,if this team turns up at SJP with the same attitude as today we’ll tear them a new one..

  • 99 Scottishmag1 // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    I hope we show the same application against Chelski as Brentford have in this first half, fully deserve to be 1 up

  • 100 Novocastrian66 // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    I hope John Terry plays next week. He looks as though he has lost what little pace he had. He can barely break into a trott.

  • 101 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 27, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    mmm they’re going to need an interim interim manager?

  • 102 northernirishtoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Don’t know anything about pea, rvw or bony and just what I read on here but I really think bony is a poor choice cos the last thing we need every few years is tiote, cisse and bony heading off to afcon

    Don’t think the club will take that chance when there are other strikers as good as if not better than bony

    It’s going to be an exciting few days

  • 103 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Lads, we lost the game against Reading because of Pardew,s clueless substitutions during the second half ! Pardew even admitted it after the game!

    As for van Wolfswinkel and Boney? Is it really surprising that other clubs are sniffing around as soon as we start to show interest in a player! It only has to appear on here that someone is a target of ours and before you can say Ricky van Wolfswinkel there are about three or four other clubs who are after the same player!

    Ricky has been a long term target of Manures too!

  • 104 Tekkers29 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    from what the agent says just confirms that we are not interested in this player. Because of our great scouting he has just mentioned us so other clubs think we have scouted him and we are interested to get someone to bid.

    thats why he names us but no one else.

  • 105 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Bony not in vitesse squad today. Very interesting

  • 106 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Although i like the look of Bony and RVW i think thats not the type of player we should be getting.

    We need someone like PEA. Hes pacey, good dribbler and can finish. He can play up the wing or down the middle and would be great in a top 3 PEA-CISSE-HBA.

    I say we up the bid by a couple mil because its deffinately worth it and would deffnately improve our squad.

    I hope we get him but iv got a feeling the Bony deal will go through because of Tiote being good mates with him and both playing in ACON as we speak. Plus his team are getting used to life without him and could see them cashing in on him.

    Does anyone know how his team have done since losing him to the ACON, that would be interesting to know?

  • 107 belgrade fan // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    proud
    he is on the ACON

  • 108 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Tekkers nailed it. I mean, who else knew we were in for Gouff, Yanga or Sissoko? Hence no other bids for them.

  • 109 geordiefinn // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    ^ Because he’s in Africa?

  • 110 Phoenix // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Proud to be Geordie,probably because he is at acon lol

  • 111 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Belgrade

    That explains it then lol. Got excited there

  • 112 Phoenix // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Alan Pardew: “We have got 15 games left and every one of them is a cup final.
    “We have got to win half those games. And we haven’t achieved anything like that rate so far.
    “Can we win half? I think we can. We are going to have to try.
    “It is about the energising of the group. You have to understand that even if the new guys don’t play against Villa, they have already made an impact.
    “People now have to be on their toes. I can’t accept players having an off-day. If they have an off-day now they might lose their shirt.
    “Everybody is under pressure now.
    “I’m good. I’m angry and I’m ready to rumble.”

    Surely he will play sissoko and mbwia

  • 113 alex84 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    A lot of Journo’s on twitter recon our transfers incoming our done for Jan.

  • 114 belgrade fan // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    I said few times Matri would be great. and after Juve landed Lorrente and Anelka, he will be cheap. Good in the air, pacey, experienced….

  • 115 Tekkers29 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    it might be done but the journo’s won’t know that

  • 116 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Best interview from Pards in a long time. Needed to grow a pair eventually.

  • 117 yo-yo // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    newexpat

    The Reading game subs were not ‘clueless’.
    He’s said he got it wrong, fair point, but that he was trying to galvanise the side after Reading came at us by swapping to a diamond – then Cabs had to come off. Also he had no striker capable of coming off the bench – Gansgta not being worth the candle.

    Yes the subs were wrong but they were not ‘clueless’.

  • 118 belgrade fan // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    just imagine if Cisse gets injured…. we need 1 striker, it is a must. sold Best, Loven and Ba, without replacement (only Guff), might be very dungerous

  • 119 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Okay! Maybe i used the wrong word ! But why he took Marvaux still remains a mystery to me?

  • 120 Novocastrian66 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Has Griffin Park got a slope? Virtually the whole game has been played on the near side. It’s like a dodgy snooker table.

  • 121 Robby Bobson // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Cickneymagpue…..you just described gouff

  • 122 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    @103:

    Vitesse lost their last game to AZ Alkmaar 4-1 !

    A lot of people are saying here in Holland that without Boney they have a crap team, opinions are different here on that?

    They are still in the Europa League competition which may mean that we have to play them in the next few months?

    This afternoons game is -

    Arnhem – Vitesse vs Ajax Amsterdam

    Game is this afternoon, and should be a good one, Ajax i think will win that one as Boney is,nt here to play!

  • 123 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Whats the crack with new songs for these new stars we have??????

  • 124 northernirishtoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    ‘Even if the new guys don’t play against villa’

    Come on pards get the balls out and throw them in at the deep end

    If they are as good as what’s being touted on here I’m sure they will be ok

  • 125 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    @Robby Bobson

    Fair point but hes not the player PEA is and we still need depth up top.

  • 126 Tekkers29 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    the game has already played and they drew 3-3

  • 127 yo-yo // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    New expat

    Aye, that was the obvious wrong call. I think it was because Marv ain’t great at tracking back and we were beginning to get swamped in midfueld so he wanted to strengthen DCM at the base of this effin diamond.
    Just cos it worked when Manure played us…. Hey ho..onward and upward. Hopefully now we won’t need our attackers to constantly backtrack to cover a creaky defence.

    AP on his usual speech-play in his press statements.
    I’m sure Pards will play Mapou and Sissoko. Two world class players on the bench when Villa are there for the taking ?
    Gouffy to come on as impact sub too.

  • 128 Irie-Magpie // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Lads, Saint-Etienne vs Bastia
    http://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=castalba&c=9865&lang=en&eid=152046&lid=70128&ci=37&si=1
    Both our proposed targets in action
    PEA VS Florian Thauvin=(Class)

  • 129 yo-yo // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Brentford 2 Chelski 1 :)

  • 130 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    @Newexpatmagpie

    Iv just had a look at their fixtures and theyve literally just finished a game against Ajax and it finished 3-3.

    It seems they still have fire power up top and this could be there decision maker in selling Bony.

  • 131 northernirishtoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Ba coming on to play left wing for Chelsea lol

  • 132 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Gotta disagree about our transfers being a secret in this window. It was common knowledge that we had put in a bid for Haidara, initially rejected as well. It was also common knowledge that we were trying to secure Sissoko. Same with Remy and that one we lost out on. I actually think out recruitment is probably over unless a long term target suddenly becomes available or a different move triggers us into action. Also RE the villa game, dont be surprised to see less of the new boys that you hope for, Pards likes to take it slow when introducing players (either from injury or new signing) into the team… Mbiwa and Sissoko must play in my opinion

  • 133 Irie-Magpie // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Or we go back in for Florian Thauvin with an improve offer, this boy got skill (reminds me of HBA)

  • 134 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Have another look at the score of the Vitesse game lads?

    Just looked on Dutch Teletekst- it says 3-2 to Vitesse?
    Maybe they don,t Boney after all, thats an unexpected result though/ but ?

  • 135 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    What foot is Thauvin best on?

  • 136 Irie-Magpie // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    @Cockney, it was a cracking game, Ajax where up 2nil, and Vitesse made a spirited fight back to 3-2 with five mins remaining. stream went down thought they would have held on to win it.

  • 137 davybtoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Thauvin is probably the last bit of business we will do this window I reckon but if we bid again I bet we won’t offer to loan him back this time

  • 138 davybtoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Vitesse have been the surprise team in holland this year

  • 139 Tekkers29 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Uefa.com says 3-3 against ajax.

    here’s the link

    http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=ned/domesticleague/season=2013/matches/match=200076202/live/index.html

  • 140 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    That twitter page gfnFrance were bang on the money with our targets so I’ve got a little bit of trust in them. Having watched the reading game back as much as I like marveaux i don’t think he does enough on the pitch and would love to know how much ground he covers.

    At least now we have four more options since the reading game and Pardews substitutes will be even more telling. I was under the perception at the game that Pardew went defensive at half time and tried to put the game to bed after sixty minutes. Everton fans booed David Moyes yesterday when he replaced a striker with a defender and they’re riding high compared to us and our torrid three months just gone.

  • 141 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    It definitely finished 3-2 to vitesse, i watched it from the 50th minute it was a great come back! our old loan left back V.anholt scored as well, i dont know why we never took him permanently i really rated him…

  • 142 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    My comment is awaiting moderation for some reason, not sure if I’ve been a naughty boy with my posts but I’ve had a lot of problems with the site lately. Has anyone else? Sometimes when I try to comment I get a long winded error message and also if I look in another tab the nufc blog page automatically refreshes, but annoying when you type a message and quickly look in another tab.

  • 143 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    I can’t comment anymore on my phone (iphone). Don’t have the option.

    Sure that will please some.

    But I have a laptop!! haha

  • 144 northernirishtoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    @GFN_France: #ManchesterCity scouts are currently at #SaintEtienne against #Bastia we presume to watch Pierre Emerick #Aubameyang.

    Typical

    We scout a player, then other teams jump on the band wagon

    Carr is a legend

  • 145 Toonfan8 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    yesterday I watched Deportivo vs. Valencia….and I think Riki from Deportivo would suit us perfectly

  • 146 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Yea they effed up it says og 33′ and then shone 33′.

    I dont think think they new so put both down haha.

    Could well see Bony coming back with Tiote now, im gonna see what the odds are, deffinatley worth a cheeky bet

  • 147 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    George Caulkin, Luke Edwards, Mark Douglas and Lee Ryder have all said today that they expect NUFC to be finished this transfer window.
    Once again, some perspective needed.
    Fantastic that we have signed 5 players this transfer window but don’t EXPECT anymore.
    If another signing was to come excellent, but I’m thinking this is very unlikely.

  • 148 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Spuggy why not on your iPhone? Is it an issue with the blog?

  • 149 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    NOt sure, it’s been like that for a few weeks now. Just don’t get the option to post – no box nothin. Not sure if its a phone setting I’ve changed or the blog.

    Anyone else with an iPhone – can you post comments on here?

  • 150 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    I’ve tried clearing the cache, cookies history reset the works but still the same.

  • 151 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    I cant do it on my samsung but iv gone onto the desktop version and its fine.

    It wasnt even showing a box for me to write in so there is deffinately something wrong with the mobile site.

  • 152 Dantoon85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Spuggy

    I can post from iPhone but only when I switch to desktop version

    If that helps ya

  • 153 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    RE my last post:
    Luke Edwards ?@LukeEdwardsTele

    Reliably informed this morning that #nufc have finished their transfer business this month

    George Caulkin ?@CaulkinTheTimes

    To clarify: I’m told Bony not a target for #Nufc and I’m told that’s them done for the month. Never say never, but that’s what I believe.

    Mark Douglas ?@MsiDouglas

    Cisse will be given lions share of the striking responsibility in the run-in. No other striker joining, I don’t think. #nufc

  • 154 numba9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    We NEED a striker to replace ba and give us options

  • 155 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    It’s been a good window. Selfish and greedy player gone, Captain staying for now, Simpson and Willo both replaced, competition for Santon, bit of pace up top and well… Sissoko. Need I say more?

  • 156 Dantoon85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Would like to see another striker through the door this month but can’t see it happening.

    Well happy with the 5 we signed though!

  • 157 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Spuggy I’m on an iPhone and the mobile version is terrible now. If you scroll to the bottom of the nufcblog main page on your iPhone there is an option at the bottom saying something like ‘mobile version’. If you switch that to off it brings up the desktop version which works better. You also might have the problems of the page refreshing though when you switch tabs, bit annoying if you type a comment then go to check something and come back to find its gone.

  • 158 geordie157 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Mattia destro!

  • 159 Joe1987 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Spuggy, my iPhone exactly th same doesn’t give u th option to post but my iPad is th same layout but I can post fine using this.

  • 160 Dantoon85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Neymar! Lol

  • 161 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    I’m beginning to believe our business is over but you never know with this club, they’ve said all along that if a player becomes available at a good price they will snap them up so lets hope a striker does. I’m thankful they snapped sissoko up when it wasn’t an area of great importance. Would love another striker to come in but if the midfield can click then they should chip in with a fair few. Gutted Ben Arfa is going to miss another 3 or 4 games, gouffran is good to have to chip in with a few and cabaye needs to get forward more.

    I would like to think we now have a Defense and a midfield that could perhaps carry a team with a young player like Campbell, before it was a shakey Defense, disjointed midfield and an out of fork striker so the youngsters looked bad.

    Debuchy – mbiwa – colo – santon
    ——Anita—-cabaye–sissoko
    ————-marveaux————-
    ——–cisse———Campbell—-

    Subs:
    Elliot
    Gouffran
    Jonas
    Obertan
    Taylor
    Haidara
    Bigi

    Surely that team could carry Campbell?

  • 162 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    5minutes ago…Mark Douglas ?@MsiDouglas

    So nothing else expected, #nufc wise. Nothing at all in Wilfred Bony link. Quiet week. 5 players in: job now is to integrate them.

    Spot on. Integration key.

  • 163 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    I don’t share the view that we will not look to bring a proven goalscorer in before the window closes. Cisse is an instinctive goalscorer who is off form( for whatever reason) you only need consider the chances on a plate he missed in the first half against Reading. For me it wasn’t a case of a wonderful goalkeeping display! We have now acquired players quite capable of us spreading the goals around but we don’t yet know whether it will be a quick and smooth transition to this state. Having made the investment to date are we going to bet on Cisse recapturing his goal scoring prowess or are we as i think more likely to invest now in BA ‘s replacement.

  • 164 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/2013/01/27/what-is-newcastle-united-s-new-best-starting-xi-79310-32686517/

    Neil Cameron has Haidara ahead of Santon.
    Not a chance. Santon has been in poor form but the team have been poor/lacking in confidence.
    Personally think Santon has been one of the better performers this season, he takes far too much blame on this blog and will only improve with guidance from Yanga-Mbiwa (when he learns English).

  • 165 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    @IanToon – I think for the rest of the season NUFC regard Gouffran as Ba’s replacement.
    I don’t think they will invest in a striker as I have outlined already.
    I think you’re being too harsh on Cisse who was clearly out of position for most of the season.
    For the two games – Everton and Reading when I’ve seen him in a central striking role, he scored against Everton and he crucially made lots of fantastic runs/in the right places to get chances against Reading. Infact the Reading’s keeper and a little bit bad luck was the only reason he didn’t score.
    I would be far more worried if he wasn’t getting into those positions.

  • 166 corkypants85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    DanRo santon gets caught out of position to much every game iv seen this season hes been out of position at least twice per game and the makes no effort to get bk i know midfielders should be covering him but i always got taught dont go forward unless you know the cover is there thats schoolboy stuff!!

  • 167 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    What by calling him an instinctive goalscorer who is off form!

  • 168 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Thanks on the iphone feedback, seems everyone having the same problems.

    Not ability to post and the refresh thing is terrible, you have to refresh then scroll to the bottom to keep up with things.

    Ed – any fixes for these issues mate. I wish the blog showed live posts so you didn’t have to refresh or had an auto refresh every 30 secs – I appreciate that might not help the traffic however.

  • 169 outsidethebox // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    pea just scored for st ettienne…price gone up

  • 170 kilcline // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Would love us to take Ince for £7m as this boy is already class and will only improve, it would mean leaving Jonas out too!

    He would suit our best formation of 4-3-3 too.

  • 171 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    @Corkypants – the no effort point I have to completely disagree. I don’t think you can say Santon hasn’t shown any effort.
    Santon carries the ball forward looking for options and doesn’t see any. I agree he needs to learn when to stay/go forward but he has been playing in a struggling team with no confidence. The guy is still young and is learning.
    I’m not saying he has been amazing – I don’ t think anyone has. He is the only player to play every game this season. He doesn’t jump in and he is only improving game by game.
    Look at the number of games Haidara has played for Nancy and nothing will convince me that he will be better than Santon.

  • 172 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    DanRo – Cisse could of had three or four last weekend and should have scored from that Debuchy cross for definite. The service has been really poor but he is getting more chances now and needs to our them away or were in trouble.

    Players should cover for Santon more but Pardew also needs to tell him to work his bum off to get back. I found it interesting Pardew saying he speaks in English to the French lads because they need to learn it. That’s true but I’ve been wondering since if they actually understand what is being asked of them and if someone else tells them

  • 173 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    DanRo

    Agree on cisse, a matter of time before he start banging them in with that team behind him. It’s about confidence now and a couple of goals will sort that out.

    As for Gouffran, he’s no backup striker – he shares Ba and Cisse goal ratio for the last two season – thats playing in the middle mind haha oh no.

    We’ll have to wait and see how they do and reassess in summer what we need instead of taking a punt without knowing how this team will work now.

    Nouveau-Château!!

  • 174 nick_9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Spuggy – it’s a right pain scrolling to the bottom of an article with 500+ comments.

  • 175 ilovetoon8788 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Regardless of our signings, the one man we are still waiting for to step onto the pitch, is Hatem Ben Arfa.

    When we are playing terribly that one guy decides to take it all in his hands and is the only player capable of lighting up St.James Park. Gets the crowd on their feet, and makes it very hard for the opposition because hes so unpredictable.

    We cannot afford to lose him, and hes the key for us to move up the table. We need him back and fast.

  • 176 toonfan76 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Hi guys, haven’t posted for a long while but thought I would chip in since there has been so much activity this month. Have to say I have no complaints at all about the transfer window so far. It was always gonna be a matter of time before someone would trigger Ba’s release clause and I don’t blame him for wanting to join a champions league team. I hope our new additions hit the ground running and we can start to play the way we all want the team to play. Won’t hold my breath for a striker this window and I am willing to give Gouffran the benefit of the doubt. Think he might surprise us all with his ability. HWTL

  • 177 beddersmag // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Newexpat

    Surely pards brought marveux off as we were trying to defend a lead and he is not the best at tracking back or indeed tackling. Did he not bring perch on who offers more in that dept? That seemed fair enough to me fergie does that type of sub all the time. Easy with hindsight to say it was a mistake, especially when cabaye went off injured but logical decision imo

  • 178 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    With Marveaux coming into good form, anita finding his feet, Cabaye back and hungry and cisse showing glimpses of his old self and the new signings surely the stage is set and we have enough to compensate for the loss of Ba.

    Here’s hoping!

    HWTL!

  • 179 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Oh and saylor returning!

  • 180 corkypants85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Danro totally agree about him being young and learning his trade but just think he could work a bit harder to get bk sometimes either way wen he matures (hopefully at nufc) hes gunna be one hell of a player theres no doubt and i defo wudnt drop him for someone with no pl experience!

  • 181 Spuggy // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Bottom line- we have probably 4 PL games before HBA returns and we need 6 points from them ideally. Then we really need to kick on.

  • 182 Phoenix // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    After seeing thauvin we should go for him,definitely a younger version of Ben arfa,could you imagine two Ben arfas in the side

  • 183 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Can’t wait for HBA to get back.

    It’ll be like a new signing!

    (Betcha a fiver that Pards utters that sentence)

  • 184 Twatter // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    We’re not in for anyone else, lads. C’mon, get real.

  • 185 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    @Corkypants

    Couldn’t agree more.
    My initial point was I don’t know how Neil Cameron can have him behind Haidara.
    Santon needs to mature but the potential is most definitely there.

  • 186 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Jayden

    He probably will say that but after all the signings he’s allowed to.

  • 187 kilcline // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Reading in for Ince, surely we should bid!

  • 188 Macas // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Personally I think we could be in trouble unless we sign a left winger or left sided striker. The Brighton game showed how totally devoid we are of quality players out wide. That has been our biggest problem all season, not enough pace or creativity from wide areas.

  • 189 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    @ unbelievable tekkers.

    Couldn’t agree more. He would be like a new signing.
    Though, I don’t particularly like the saying and it sets Pardew up for mocking.

  • 190 outsidethebox // Jan 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    danro @170 have to agree about santon …he will be one of the best left backs toon have had …gutti tris to cover but more times than enough its guttis fault that santon has moved foreward …maybe the dm main job should be to cover both full backs when they go upfront …hadiero is imo there to cover for both full backs ..

  • 191 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Actually, OTB brings up a good point.. With a competent LW in front of him, maybe Santon will be less frustrated and therefore attack less..?

  • 192 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    not that i’m playing devil’s advocate:

    Ian Holyman ?@ian_holyman

    #aubameyang opens door a crack: “I’d like to stay, but the transfer window isn’t closed.”

    Don’t get your hopes up now!

  • 193 beddersmag // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    I think santon has been a liability again recently, as he was last season. Looked as if he had sorted himself out early season but easy to see why jonas sits so deep to cover him. I think teams are targetting him now. However, i feel a move further up the pitch would suit, as it did with bale. Also why not play him on the right so be can actually cross a ball? He always comes inside which is predictable. Dont get this obsession with playing people on the ‘wrong’ side myself

  • 194 Sinner // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    We still need a proper left winger, Marveaux can drift in/out of a game, Jonas not good enough and Obertan seems to lack confidence to play.

  • 195 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    DanRo — what is it your actually saying! You can’t be persuaded by me but……..- LOL

  • 196 pollypeterborough // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    All i can say if we can get him what a player.
    This window is unreal never thought this would happen four players and still after more.

  • 197 kilcline // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Ince is the answer for our wing problems!

  • 198 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    DanRo – Let me spell it out for you. The question is should we bet PL survival on Cisse returning to goalscorering form?

  • 199 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    @IanToon – you seem very passionate.
    If you’re asking me – no.
    If you’re asking the NUFC hierarchy – Yes.

  • 200 naptoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    nick @139
    i dont know his averages or owt but i do know against norwich marveux covered second highest yardage for us behind debuchy think its abit of a myth that flair players dont work hard its just their runs are attacking whilst the likes of perchy its back toward our goal … man utd apart.

  • 201 Toon1978 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    I think business is finished for NUFC in this window. It’s nice to be able to sit back and watch other clubs scramble for players in these last days instead of us. NUFC should strive to sufficiently build the squad every window like we have just done in this window. It should not take a major shock like the Reading game to get the club into action. Job done as far as i am concerned, now get point’s on the board and get us in the top half ASAP or Pardew will soon find himself on the scrap heap. No more excuses, now is the time to push on and i have been defending Pardew a lot of late.

  • 202 last minute window lies // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    PEA scored in st etienne’s win, Bony wasnt in squad for vitesse

  • 203 Beattie25 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    I fully believe that PEA is available this window, IF the price is right.

    A club in the modern day will only bid on the say so of the agent. It is they that put out the feelers, that talk on behalf of the player and it is very rare that a club bids and that bid is accepted only for the player to say ‘no. I’m staying here’.

    If NUFC have bidded more than once he will/would come IMO.

    He even has just said himself that he’d ‘ like to stay, but the transfer window isn’t closed.’.

    That doesn’t sound like a man not open to offers.

    I don’t think it’ll happen and I think we need a LW but if we wan’t him I reckon we could get him.

  • 204 naptoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    bonys at acon lol

  • 205 last minute window lies // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    oops, that be why !!

  • 206 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    @last minute window lies – Bony wasn’t in squad for Vitesse because he is with Ivory Coast in AFCON i believe.

    @Beattie – I don’t think PEA is available this window simply because of the Cup final.

  • 207 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Danro, I cant agree about Santon. I have watched this guy closely from day one and he neither looks like a defender nor a midfielder. His marking is poor, he doesnt get close enough to wingers and loses his man in the box. Fine technique, find athlete but I reckon Haidara will have his position next season or before.

  • 208 Beattie25 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Whats the difference of betting PL survival on Cisse’s goalscoring form or spending £10 million on a new player and hoping he finds goalscoring form?

    £10 million, that is the only difference.

    Moronic question

  • 209 numba9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    business should not be over we have to get a striker / winger in, then say we are done we need more threat

  • 210 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    @Munster Mag – although i disagree, you maybe right Haidara may get his place in next 18 mths.
    Right now, my initial point was I don’t see Haidara ahead of Santon because of his lack of experience. I was referring to the SundaySun article.

  • 211 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    DanRo – It’s the art of the possible. I had worked out that you were not
    speaking on behalf of NUFC.!

  • 212 last minute window lies // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    @ DanRo yep as soon as i hit the post button i thought ” you dip s**t “lol what sort of performance did he put in for ivory coast today ?

  • 213 Beattie25 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    DanRo

    That’s not the case IMO.

    I think enough money will get the man.
    He’s young and has plenty of big things to look forward too.

    Other players have turned down CL football to come to NUFC, a cup final would be turned down for the right offer.

  • 214 naptoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    if ryder says business is done we can expect more in … i still think we will get a striker and maybe another you never know who might become available or put in shop window … dont think the board would rule out anything buys or sales. while im on ryder was it not him pushing the butland story with a loan back … now we re done … hes amassive tool.

  • 215 Spreadthetoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    I think that it is reasonable for the club to have finished this window’s business.

    We’ve had an amazing window and I am very happy with the signings we have made.

    I would not be surprised though in the event that we made an 11th hour bid for a player to our manouvre other peer clubs, i.e. Spurs / Arsenal. Personally I think Florian Thauvin would be the best signing to complete followed by Siem de Jong – just my opinion.

  • 216 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Beattie– Statistically your spreading the burden of having to rely on Cisse. ie He could get injured, suspended etc etc . Next question.

  • 217 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    @last minute window lies
    Ivory Coast played yday i believe. Bony was an unused sub.

    @IanToon – I tend to think that the team has been strengthen (more than I thought) so unlikely to be strengthened anymore and @Beattie25 is quite right, even if another player is bought, you’re still hoping he will find form immediately.

  • 218 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Of course PEA is available in this window, every player is at the right price or for the right team. He is my preference compared to RVW and Bony but i think he sees himself at a bigger team, take Man City for example who were supposed to be scouting him again today. His comments left the door ajar but for some reason i dont see it being aimed towards us. I get the feeling we may slap in a final offer which will get rejected and we’ll wait for the summer

  • 219 irishtoon999 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Id say go with Gouffran from the start against Villa, his full of running and would quite likely rise to the challenge of an unexpected start.. We need to hit villa with shock and awe from the start, two many games this season we’ve let teams that we were all over back into games…

  • 220 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Why get Thauvin when we’ve got Marveaux? We need experience, now more than ever…

  • 221 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    @Beattie25 – yup, great to see CL players come to us in such a position but PEA with four days of the window to go and a cup final on the agenda seems less likely.
    Has he won any medals before?

  • 222 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    I agree with Ian Toon (most unusual)that we will be in for another striker/attacking midfielder. Whilst Gouffran may be ok and do well, we need a proven goal scorer -as Ian says the gamble is whether Cisse returns to form -if he doesn’t and Gouffran flops we are in the claggy and all the activity in this window is wasted. El Gourdo will not gamble on this. So I expect further progress.
    Getting onto Santon – this lad is a fabulous player. I have absolutely no doubt he is told/coached to go forward and if he does I am equally positive that team mates are told/coached to cover his position if he does so -they are abrogating their responsibilities. If people cannot see this I’ve got a bit of advice – boys you need to change your game -could I suggest netball or ladies hockey.

  • 223 Lucky Les // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    The transfer window has seen the club active and we can only hope that the 5 players prove to be as good as we expect and when added to the big 5 we already have namely Krul,Collo,Cabaye,Tiote and HBA together with the other decent players it will be enough to stay up.Hopefully Ashley will not ruin everything and sell one of our big 5 players to balance the books especially in view of Collos anticipated Summer departure. I am concerned that Milan were looking at Krul a few weeks ago . The future progress of the club depends on our ability to avoid relegation and every one connected with the club must be working towards this goal.We must keep our top players.

  • 224 last minute window lies // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    @ DanRo as far as i am aware i think his international record is 4 goals in 14 games, not great but i suppose drogba has always been the main choice, his record in dutch league might make him sound a wee bit better than he his ?

  • 225 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    @last minute window lies.

    I have to admit i’m not his biggest fan.
    Alves – dutch league was a spectacular disappointment.
    I think £12m would be far too much money to spend on him.
    I think his agent may be trying to generate interest.

  • 226 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Munster – Santon does need to improve his defensive work. He is young and his form has dipped largely because he has been playing in a defence where the basics have not been observed. I would persevere with him in a restructured unit of Yanga and Debuchy. . He along with HBA and BA were the players who stood out earlier in the season. He was blamed for the. Reading first goal but Williamson should just have cleared the centre. He does need to close down the cross quicker and he can work on his heading and timing his runs forward. He’s a good work in progress. Pardew did say that he wanted to bring in a left back to give him a break from playing every game.

  • 227 Spreadthetoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    I agree that another ST and or Winger would be preferable. That stated I think people underestimate the impact that Sissoko will have. He will enable Cabaye and the rest of our mid-field to be placed a further 15-20m up the pitch. There is so much potential to our team with the ability to score, I do not think we are a 1 dimensional team where we can only score through the striker. We only think that way is cos’ BA was a selfish player and not a play maker. Time will tell I guess.

  • 228 toonLYF // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    the mackems linked with Paul Scharner. Kets is gonna’ be suicidal.

  • 229 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Tuff, not sure where you get the Santon analysis from. Anyone can see he can go forward ( and deliver little ) , but he doent close down well, and doesnt get tight when the balls come in. Not always, obviously. I’m hoping he will get better as is a good athlete and has excellent technique, but Enrique was a much better defender, and I reckon Haidara will be pushing soon, because Guti will be dropped and they’ll need defenders who can defend. If you cant see this, try table tennis mate.

  • 230 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Still hoping we’re in for Bafetimbi Gomis. Bony would be a good addition though. We need at least one more striker this window. If we get a striker through the door, we’ll have a chance of winning the Europa cup. It’s a shame about Remy and Ba.

    Alderweireld will sign for us in the summer. Expecting us to shoot up the league and achieve a mid-table finish. Give Pardew one more season to see how he does. With all these quality players in the squad, we should be going for the top 4 next season. Can’t wait for the Villa game.

  • 231 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    @ Munster Mag – how many times have you seen Haidara play? A little premature to say that this 19/20 y.o. will be pushing Santon. DS is young and needs to improve in many areas for sure but he has HUGE potential, and Enrique was only actually good for 1 season in EPL and 1 in the Championship. If you gonna compare then you need to give Santon until next season at least as Jose got 2 seasons.

  • 232 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Yeah, we might hijack their bid. Paul would be a welcome addition to the squad and will challenge Coloccini for a starting spot.

  • 233 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Agreed with Kets.

    Not sure about the Europa League tho, there are some pretty tough teams still in.

  • 234 IITianToon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Team for Villa:
    Krul
    Debuchy– ??– Colo–Santon
    ??–Anita–Cabaye–??–??
    Cisse

    Defence ?? : Mapou/Saylor
    MidFIELD ??: Sissoko/Marv/Guti/Ober/Gouffy/Perch

    I am actually not sure how to fill the ??s

  • 235 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    *Not about Scharner, obvs :D

  • 236 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Mister Tuff– Could this be a meeting of minds. Or will Alan Depardieu raise his ugly head!

  • 237 Spreadthetoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    I think with our existing squad we are a potential – consistent top 6-8 side. In order for us to push up again we need to have 4 good strikers, a couple of recognized wingers and 2 more CBs. So IMO 4-5 players…..perhaps I’m being greedy now!

  • 238 olivant // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    I think Enrique was a good player, better defender than going forward, but I would still like to have him in the squad

  • 239 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Mat Thai— I agree but it’s great to have realistic options to cover for loss of form , injuries and suspensions. Rather than having to put square pegs in round holes. Perch has been a good example . He started the season at CB against Spurs. Realistically he should be nowhere near a starting line up or even on the bench.

  • 240 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Munster -I’ve previously stated that Santon needs to learn his trade a bit better -but that does not detract from the fact that “lesser players” are leaving him in the lurch. In the Reading game for I think it was their second goal he was not busting a gut to get back (but he had busted a gut getting forward.) If you cannot see that you will probably never will.

  • 241 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    I hope Ed has a thread named ‘Judgement on the January transfer window.’
    It would be great to see all the anti-Ashley comments made by people before window versus the post 5 signings comments.

  • 242 Krul to be Kind // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    I get the impression that the Gouffran signing hasn’t exactly set the world on fire for some fans but IMO he could be potentially as integral as Sissokho and M’biwa, I for one have always rated him, versatile, quick and a decent goals to game record so far in his career.

    He was also a title winner the Bourdeax in his early tenure and cost 6m 4 years or so ago… just wait and see!

    Also the title winners we have in the squad now, albeit they are lesser leagues than PL but titles and experience all the same:

    Debuchy – Lille
    M’Biwa – Montpellier
    Santon – Inter
    Collo – Boca & San Lorenzo (poss AC too, can’t remember)
    Cabaye – Lille
    Anita – Ajax
    Tiote – Twente
    Obertan – (Bordeaux & Utd)
    Gouffran – Bordeaux

    Thats 9 title winners in our squad off the top of my head… all winners IMO!

    HWTL

  • 243 olivant // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    @ Ian Toon I agree, Perch is not good enough, I like his attitude a lot, seems like a fighter. The simple answer is that our squad is too thin , and MA seems to fix this now, or at least make an honest attempt.

  • 244 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Mat, although it took Enrique a while to settle once he bedded in he was excellent. Far more decisive in the tackle, and quicker when needed. Almost impossible to get around ( except to HBA ! ) If the new guy can show composure and the ability to defend as well as get forward, Santon will be under pressure, and i think if we can turn a decent profit, we might even flog him, although his versatility might stop that.

  • 245 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    @munster mag – you really don’t like Santon do you!

  • 246 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    BTW – lets hope Adebayor is still @ AFCON when we play Spurs. Lacking options with only Defoe.

  • 247 noofc // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    What about a young Belgian lad by the name of Jelle Vossen. He’s 22 and having seen him play a few times was rather impressed. So far this season he’s scored 20 in 35 appearances so has a decent return rate? any thoughts

  • 248 olivant // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    What is needed imo, is that we build a strong core of a squad that is strong enough to fight for a top 6, then steadily strengthen the squad with 2-4 players every year, and not go macro-shopping every 2 years or so

  • 249 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Tuff, I’m not judging him on Reading – I actually chose not to watch the highlights because I was too miserable. I’m judging on other games. We’ll agree to differ, but there are plenty on this site ho dont rate his defensive abilities, although i was probably the first one to highlight it ( and got slated ) . Somebody said that Mbiwa would help him, but he had Colo there who knows the game well. I hope he comes through, and proves me wrong – and he is young of course – but I also said that Gosling and Obertan would have little influence on NUFC and wasnt wrong there either ( still got slated though! ) :)

  • 250 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Ian Toon – couldnt agree more just felt that some of the things said about him are quite harsh considering he is still young and learning and at times been our best player. Haidara will finally give us recognised left back cover and hope he does push Santon. Consider this Shane Ferguson and Davide Santon’s age is only 6 months apart yet I read people include fergie as a youngster on here but criticise Santon!

  • 251 Dantoon85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Come on OLDHAM!!! smash the bin dippers

    Hahaha

  • 252 corkypants85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    I have no doubt about santon’s ability guys i just simply didnt agree that hes been one of our better players this season! i do believe he will become a great player no doubt about it and someone should cover him when he goes forward whether its whoever playing in dm or on the left but he needs to learn when to go forward thats all but santon imo is one of the best YOUNG fullbacks in the prem.

  • 253 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Danro, I’d like to like Santon more but he falls between two stools for me as a player. I’d like to have seen him play on the right more as i think he would have been more comfortable in tackling, and crossing. Just me tuppence. The good thing about the new signings is that the hoofball has to go now. Willo and Simpson were the worst offenders here ( and Saylor ) and they wont be on the pitch.

  • 254 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Ian Toon -afternoon. I was wondering why you were now calling Percy Panais – Alan Depardieu. I can only think it is after the famous French actor Gerard Depardieu. Really Ian not a good comparison for your hero. I’m sure you are aware Gerald Depardieu has recently become a Russian citizen (Joint French) in order that he can evade tax in France. His exploits include falling off his scooter in Paris whilst intoxicated,and then getting nicked and “wetting himself” all over the floor in an aeroplane. Not a good role model at all.

  • 255 Krul to be Kind // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    great point Matt thai

  • 256 alf // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Leeds!

  • 257 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Mat thai, thats a good point about age. I guess its because Fergie looks so young. He has to be loaned out to develop.

  • 258 Dantoon85 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    1-0 Oldham haha

  • 259 DanRo // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    @MunsterMag – it’s all about opinions. Santon has played left-back most of his career since he played there for Internazionale. I think if you start switching him to right-back you’re only going to make matters worse for the kid. He needs more consistency and to learn one position.

  • 260 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Spurs knocked out by Leeds ?? Ha !!!!! Leeds Leeds Leeds !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 261 olivant // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    It helps the confidence that we are not the only team that looses to lower teams

  • 262 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    I still think we will get a striker before the window closes although Pards was talking about Cisse, Gouffran and Ameobi. Probably trying to sweeten Ameobi after Nigeria etc. If we get another ( say Bony ) , I wonder will Pardew go 4-4-2 ? Very possible.

  • 263 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Mat — I have been guilty of over stating how good Geordie youngsters are it goes with the territory. Ferguson behaved like a rabbit in headlights for much of his PL appearances. He needs to play regularly out on loan. The jury are out on a number of. Youngsters and many could be out in the summer. Campbell will get a run should we comfortably secure PL status prior to last few weeks of season.

  • 264 check the toastie // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    This boy is class, and plays with a smile on his face, dont like bullwinkle he looks like a dick with no tricks. Pierre looks superb to me, lightning quick and devastating and cool when in on goal.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elhWQ1ArTLU

  • 265 ONLINE GUY // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    For RVP read RVW…HE is the closest thing to Van Persie I have seen, and exactly what we need ..Intelligent , Quick thinker, and many other attributes to his game ..

    Best get in quick for RVW..as I can see Arse Wenger going for him . RVW has come on really well with Sporting

    Bony ‘s not the answer…Just a poacher.. really ..strong though, and fast, but he can be frustrating, just like Obefemi Martins. Need a Footballer up front with Cisse, with good feet, and more then half a brain.

    Ricky ! Rickeeeey ! He’s the man Fan’s

  • 266 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Saw Mr Jonas Gutierrez out on the town Fri night. Reckon we’ll sign a decent striker in the next few days. Our midfield is probably the best in the league now.

  • 267 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Munster -whilst I think Santon has not so far shown any real prowess in shooting his ability to glide past players cutting in on his right is phenomenal. I don’t know what the stats are -but suspect it is very very high. He can effectively cut out a whole line of midfielders/defenders – this should be exploited -whether it is by getting his shooting improved or others making themselves available is up to the coaches. But it does need to be exploited.

  • 268 yo-yo // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    I think Haidara will be used to rest Santon as AP has commented on the pressrue on him of so many games. Haidara may be used to see if Santon could take on a LW role – the thing is now we have options, before we had none if any significance

    Beattie etc.,

    The issue of the £10m on a striker relying on him hitting form right away isn’t quite right. We may need to turn the screw last five or six matches and another quality striker coming into form then would be a real asset. Competiton for places has to include Papiss. Another player in might give him a nudge too.
    £10m now also means a squad able to start next season with all the key parts of the jigsaw in place.
    Really hope we do get someone in and PEA is probably worth going slightly over the odds for now.

  • 269 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Ian Toon – the comment about youngsters wasnt aimed individually at you, just something i read often. Also about Adam Campbell, I would love for him to get a chance but seriously… EL group stages was his best shot at that. Won’t see him again this season unless severe injury crisis. Pards needs to finish as high as mathematically possible for his rep with the fans and MA. He wont be playing about with kids when we are safe…

  • 270 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    For the complete squad, all we need now is Alderweireld, Douglas, Belhanda, Gomis and Bony.

  • 271 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Mr Tuff– I guess I am still of an age when I can have heroes. My last was Alan Shearer. Until I saw him on MOTD. I am a fan of the actor you mentioned although I was not aware of the info you provide on him. You really do meet my BBC criteria of entertaining, informing and educating. I am going into town to see Lincoln. Unlike you I did not aspire to linguistic talents so thanks for aiding my education. As my grandfather used to say you must live and learn. You really are a good advert for ” With age comes wisdom”. I am not extracting the mickey to put it politely. Hope you manage to sleep better once we start. Winning football matches. Best regards.

  • 272 Lucky Les // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Mister Tuff I agree Santon is a talented footballer but at the moment he is not a very good full back.There are 3 alternatives:
    1 As you suggest work with the player and indeed the team to ensure a player or players cover his runs forward this needs to be the task of a decent defensive coach .Do we have one?
    2Discuss with the player as to whether he feels his abilities could be better used in another role and is he willing to change position when he has acquired skills over his short career which has brought him recognition in Italy and a transfer to the Premier League
    3Transfer the player as there is interest in Italy .

    As no one doubts he has football ability hopefully one of the first 2 alternatives will be favoured but do not rule out 3 as Ashley may be looking to recover his recent outlay and I recall the press stated Roma were keen to buy the player at a profit to Ashley.

  • 273 numba9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    i think santon marauding forward should be less now as we have sissoko to do so, and it would leave us light at back

  • 274 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Tuff, Santon very rarely goes to the left as lacks ability on that food. He cuts in always , and must be a doddle for video analysts to read. I dont think he’s dome much damage coming in either, bar one shot which led to a goal. Could be wrong there mind…

  • 275 Ian Toon // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Mat— there are some fans who are already writing the script on Pardew. It goes something like ” Even Peter Reid could have got a squad with so much talent to :
    Play a pass and move game, to the top half of the league, look like a
    side capable of beating anyone etc etc.
    See you.

  • 276 bills-son // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Like Munster I’ve not rated Santon as a defender since I saw his home debut against Swansea last year. His biggest weakness to the team is that he makes runs into the oppo’s half, goes way inside on his right foot into the middle of the pitch, and loses the ball. Teams know this, show him inside, and hit the ball straight out wide ride when they get possession. This has caused Colo huge problems asche gets pulled into the LB spot tovcover leaving Willo on his own in the middle. Why the hell Pardew dusnt tell Santon to keep closer to the byeline on his runs is beyond me. It may be he has, Santon dusnt take notice, and we’ve signed Haidaracto give him a kick up the ar$e.

    Bottom line – Santon is a major weakness in our defence the way he plays currently.

  • 277 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    i kind of dont want a winger tbh our lb’s do enough attacking and crossing for me and with all the great players we have in cm i would rather stick the extra body or 2 there.

    as long as collo and mbiwa have an anita/sissoko/tiote in the team when they play i dont think we need wide players as they can cover the space the wingbacks leave vacant if the move breaks down.

    and taking that gouffran and arfa will be withdrawn either side of cisse i think we have tons of width and options.

  • 278 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Alternative XI for villa…

    442
    KRUL
    DEBUCHY-MBIWA-COLO-HAIDARA
    SISSOKO-CABAYE-ANITA-SANTON
    GOUF/MARV-CISSE

    Its very strong but still has pace and creativety.

    Still nervous as to what hes going to field against villa but hopefully something that involves the new boys.

  • 279 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Lucky Les – I agree with all your suggestions re Santon – unfortunately I seem to recall a few weeks ago that John Carver said that Percy Panais did the defensive coaching! But he should not be “forced” into changing positions.

  • 280 Lucky Les // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Ian Toon I agree entirely with your views on the young players and Ferguson in particular.They should be on loan to clubs in the lower divisions as it does not seem to be doing Good any harm at Bradford

  • 281 Novocastrian66 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Pardew now has a bit of depth to the squad. Results have to improve or he will be under even more pressure. I’m not a Pardew hater as I thought he was not being backed, this is no longer the case.

  • 282 valle // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    City after PEA… I guess they need more strikers on the bench, he seems smart enough to know that though, so still a chance he would chose us over them.

  • 283 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    People are believing our business is done for this window. I really don’t think it is until a replacement for ba is through the door. Pardew has already stated that is our priority this window. So why would that change. IMO goofy is no where near ba replacement. R v w will be that man imo

  • 284 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    i’d take gudetti off city anyday

  • 285 Mister Tuff // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    bills @274 from my reading of the game the opposition always try to show Santon the outside, -no team that I know of would want to “show” a player inside. The consequences of him losing the ball inside does expose his vacant position. Hopefully with the new players -these issues may not persist.

  • 286 hotdog // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    He should play them all except haidara. If Willo starts ill be waiting for Pards at Benton on Wednesday!

  • 287 olivant // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    hotdog @ 285 I think so too. We must play our “new” stronger team, if for nothing else so to put preassure on the regulars

  • 288 Alan Pas-de-clue // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    Wingers are not our strong point. Personally I would play an Italian style 442 (narrow diamond) with all width coming from fullbacks, with cms covering them. The team could be set up like this

    Krul
    Debuchy mbiwa colo santon
    Tiote
    Anita sissoko
    Cabaye
    Hba cisse

  • 289 ONLINE GUY // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Proud ..

    Van Wolfswinkle is a good shout …Really clever player ..remind’s me, and is closest thing to RVP I have seen.

    Plays just like him for Sporting ..He’s RVP clone .

  • 290 JTOONJ // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    haha sky sports are laughable at times read this!

    http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/scout/15198/5516980/Sky-Sports-Scout-Davide-Santon

    Potential value £60 million … yeah right!

  • 291 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Everyone going on about no wingers. This formation puts that to bed.

    ……………….krul
    ……..saylor….mbiwa….collo……
    Debs…………………………………santon
    ………………..sissoko…………
    Hba…………..cabs…………..goofy
    ………………cisse

    Think 2wing backs works a treat with 3 at the back and sissoko holding in front of them

  • 292 KINGNUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Debuchy Mbiwa Colo Santon
    Anita
    Sissoko Cabaye Marv
    Gouffran Cisse

    My pick up for next match!! 4-1-3-2

  • 293 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Online guy

    And hasn’t he already come out and said he wants to come to nufc. Agree with the likeness to manures r v p

  • 294 naptoon // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    3 4 3 a la brazil hard system to play mind

  • 295 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    i’m determined to make some of you guys realise what we have in gouffran before you completely agree to jump on the we need pea/rvw/bony wagon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL9V4f6x8bw
    how much off the pace of those 3 do you think gouffran is after watching this ? now add how much this lad wanted to be here and how much he’s determined to be a success at the toon :-)

  • 296 Rotonda heights // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    I wish people would stop saying Bony wasn’t in Vitesse’s squad. A.C.O.N

    Ian your idolisation of pardew is quite endearing in a way in as much as usually people’s heroes are successful role models.

  • 297 JTOONJ // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_van_Wolfswinkel

    Haha ashley’s done it again, RVW plays for nufc aapparently!

  • 298 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Tuff, they show him the outside because he hasnt got much of a left foot. I dont recall him making any great defensive headers either. Simpson is a better defender, but useless on the ball…..

  • 299 hotdog // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Olivant- the regulars have had their chance and failed miserably. Sweeping changes for me. Can’t wait to see our new centre back and much more solid we should be.

  • 300 Rotonda heights // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    naptoon

    343 is a great system. It gives you a sweeper for protection, 2 wingbacks, 2 hard working midfielders and can shift very quickly. 5 world cup wins sugggest it is the best system but the wing backs need lungs.

  • 301 Lucky Les // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Managers 11
    Could any club anywhere have a better team of ex full time managers

    McFaul

    Roader Charlton Harvey. Hughton

    SBR. Ardiles Souness Gullitt

    Special K. Dalglish

    Subs McGarry Lee

    I need to play Glen and Joe out of their normal position but look at our front 6.

  • 302 KINGNUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    @JTOONJ

    never understand why people always doing this silly thing…

  • 303 croftus5678 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    @301

    you can not class souness as a manager surely ?

  • 304 proudtobageordie // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Rotunda

    Nap toon replied to @ post 291
    Give me credit when credit is due

  • 305 Novocastrian66 // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Matt Smith is Carrollesque.

  • 306 olivant // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Hotdog – I follow you. I think they have lost their spunk this season, and I must say I am looking forward to the villa game, to see our new team. Just hope Pardew delivers a decent managerial display. I think they have lacked recently

  • 307 KINGNUFC // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    If i see shola, Jonas or willo still on the pitch vs villa…Pardew have to sack…there are no sense with 5 new signings….

  • 308 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    I could probably accept Jonas on the pitch. No excuses for the other 2 tho…

  • 309 Jayden // Jan 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Can’t really blame Willo for hoofing it so much… The poor sap was born in Stoke after all :(

  • 310 Rowan Milsted // Jan 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Anyone see this?

    “San Lorenzo’s promising playmaker Alan Ruiz is wanted by Greek club PAOK but he’ll cost €10million (£8.5m). San Lorenzo president Matias Lammens told Radio La Red: “There has been an approach from a very important team from Greece. The supporters know that we can’t refuse a proposal like this.”

    Coloccini money..?

  • 311 Munster Mag // Jan 27, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    So who do we think are going down? I say QPR, Southampton, Villa . Am i overlooking another team?

  • 312 Jackel001 // Jan 27, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Not sure if any one on here likes a bet, check this out:

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/558454_10151188929241886_415820058_n.jpg

  • 313 olivant // Jan 27, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    @ Jayden hahahahahahah. Did not know that. That explains all the hoofing. Stoke are the ultimate hoofers of all time, and the most boring football team in the epl

  • 314 cockneymagpie90 // Jan 27, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Pardews line up..

    KRUL
    DEBUCHY-MBIWA-COLO-SANTON
    MARVO-ANITA-CABAYE-JONAS
    GOUFFRAN-CISSE

    ID BET MONEY ON IT BEING THAT LINE UP AND BRING ON SISSOKO FOR HIS DEBUT IN PLACE OF ANITA.

  • 315 Lucky Les // Jan 27, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Just on my ex managers team it includes 2World Cup Winners and I think 3 European Footballers of the Year.

    For younger bloggers Joe Harvey was manager when we won the Fairs Cup and as a player won 3 FA Cup winners medals in the 1950′s He also had his bad days as he was manager when we lost to non league Hereford after a replay!As a manager he got us to a cup Final and signed Supermac, Terry Mac, Tony Green etc..He loved the Toon. Sorry about the trip down memory lane!

  • 316 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 27, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    No defenders worth £60m. Santon can still be the best wingback in the world. He just needs more consistency.

    At the moment, I’d say his value is close to £20m. He’s been our star performer this season.

  • 317 toonfan91 // Jan 27, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    repost:
    We need someone in the same mould as a young Craig Bellamy someone who has fire in their belly, run their socks off and be a real nuisance to opposition defenders.

    Dries Mertens would be a cracking signing tho :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51NBqZybiVw

  • 318 Bowzer912 // Jan 27, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    We all want a player who can step in and bang in the goals and be inform for the remainder of the season however that is virtually impossible because even if they are playing great you cannot guarantee they will score. I reckon Goofy can fill the void of goals until the best players are available. I’d love us to pop in a cheeky bid for Belhanda or Ince but we’ll probably get Siem de Jong or someone in the summer




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