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This Is Why Relegation Would Be Catastrophic To Newcastle

11:46 am, Monday, January 28th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 156 Comments

Newcastle United made the top 20 list of the world’s richest football clubs for the first time in three years last season, and we had reported revenues of £93.3M – ending on June 30th – but that is still below the revenues Newcastle were making when Bobby Robson was manager and Freddy Shepherd was running the club, when revenues were around £100M – and that’s over ten years ago.


Freddy Shepherd – higher revenues when Freddy ran the club
Although we also had over £100M in debt which Ashley inherited

And when you take a closer look at the Deloitte report there are some revelations on the finances – and one is that Newcastle’s income from commercial side of the business is very poor, and the Deloitte Football Money league report showed 59% of Newcastle’s total revenue came from broadcasting, while 26% came from match day sales and a meager 15% from commercial opportunities.

Gerald Krasner was once Chairman of Leeds United, and is now a partner in a Management Consultancy firm in Newcastle, and he is quoted in the Evening Chronicle today:

“If Newcastle dropped out of the Premier League, it would be a catastrophe for them financially.” “I don’t think it will happen this season though.” “Fans do matter, but not as much as they think.”

“They create the atmosphere for broadcasting.” “I’m sure the club is maximizing the potential for match day and commercial revenue.” “If you get the performance on the field right, then the rest follows.”

We’ve always thought if a side is successful on the field, then the finances tend to follow the success and increase – as Gerald points out.

But with almost 60% of revues coming from the broadcasting of Newcastle’s games, a relegation would be a complete and utter catastrophe for Newcastle – which is why we’ve seen owner Mike Ashley get involved personally and brought in five good players into the club this month – so far.

The task Mike Ashley has ahead is to raise the commercial income of the club, and we suppose the deal with Wonga – for the shirt sponsor deal – said to be worth £24M over the next four years will help – but that’s still chicken-feed compared with what top English clubs make on their shirt deals.

For example Nike pays Manchester United around 23.3M per year on their long-term shirt deal with the club, which is over four times what Newcastle are getting from Wonga – and that’s just one example.

However, it’s also the best deal Newcastle have got on any shirt deal – according to managing Director Derek LLambias.

In order to return to making big money again – the number one goal has to be that Newcastle have a good (great) team – that competes in the Premier League top six every season – including next season, and battles for a place in Europe.

That was the goal at the beginning of this season, and for a number of reasons we have failed miserably so far, but with five good players now into the club this month – the future at least looks a little brighter than it did at the end of last year.

Hope springs eternal for Newcastle.

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156 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Magickit // Jan 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Sometimes its easy to choose players

    Juz have a closed match

    Team 1

    Team 2

    Play a full match and look at the score

  • 2 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 28, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    I really hope the R word does not happen again as this is the best crop of players we have had in a long time and next season, provided we keep hold of everyone then anything is possible.

  • 3 Iain Dowie // Jan 28, 2013 at 11:51 AM


    i agree with what you’re saying but gosling is yet to play back to back games for us in the last 3 years. regarding shola, is playing 10 minutes at the end of game justifying the money we’re paying him week in week out. We need to replace him with a young striker who can develop and offer more in the last 10 minutes than someone who might score 3 goals a season. Amalfitano will have to start showing what he can do soon because he isn’t exactly a young player anymore. Sammy Ameobi could still become a good player however he needs to improve massively on his decision making ,again when iv’e seen him he hasn’t impressed me.

  • 4 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 28, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    If Sissoko is a character and Mbiwa is a leader then great because at the minute we are sadly lacking both at the moment

  • 5 TheToonKing // Jan 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    I don’t know about Gouffran. Feels like he was a little knee-jerk after we failed on Remy.

    I’ve never seen Gouffran play on the wing, he’s a striker, he mostly played alone up top.

    Also, he is not that fast. He’s fairly pacy yes, but far from Walcott, Lennon etc. He’s probably around HBA fast.

    I’m hoping he proves me wrong, but at the moment he’s the only one I have some doubts about. The rest are brilliant signings.

  • 6 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    We deserve a team that can compete with the top 20 in Europe. Here’s hoping eh!?

    But first things first, we need 5 wins and one tomorrow night will leave us needing 4 wins from 14. Tomorrow is huge

  • 7 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    my new hero :-)

  • 8 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Magickit, fair point but Anita and Saylor are missing from both teams.

  • 9 daztoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    We defininatly need a vocal leader out on the pitch.Colo has never been captain material for me.

    Lets hope Ashley has seen the light and relised our great club has underachieved for years and wants to build a squad worthy of its support

  • 10 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    i’m thinking the senile fergie did us a favour in calling our team as it seems to have pee’s ashley/pards ect off now for manure to lose every game from now on and the unwashed and qpr to get relegated and we make it into mid table and i’ll be happy.

  • 11 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Before this spending spree by Ashley I was seriously worried that we would be dragged into a relegation battle, but now with the amount of quality we’ve brought in I think we can start to pull away from the bottom, but Pardew had to now realise that all eye’s are on him as he no longer has any excuses and must deliver results starting tomorrow at Villa

  • 12 nightfa11 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    we have too many players now..we need 25.. so i suggest next season will be: (i think colo will stay..he spent to much time here & then not witness nufc at its full potential)

    debuchy colo, mbiwa, santon
    sissoko cabaye anita
    hba cisse pea (hopefully..i think we might sign him before window closes)

    raylor (i think hell stay) taylor, mirin, heidara
    tiote, bigi, marveuax
    thaivun carroll goufrann


    so others can leave (off our wage bill=))
    harper, wili, parch, jonas, gosling, abeid, amalfitano, shola 1, ranger, xisco, obertan! derek will want to balance their book, & we simply have too many players now..many will leave..i just hope cabaye will stay…im sure man utd will be after him, cos scholes will retire & then all they have is carrick (almost 32), anderson & cleverly..

  • 13 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Stop the service to Benteke ie keep the ball and press them outwide and we will win the game …. Hopefully they will be so tired chasing shadows we can get a comfortable win … Although Villa are desperate to get a result too so will be a tough game ! Hope we don’t go 1-0 down as heads may drop as they have done in the past ! Go 1-0 up control the game and in the last 20 mins score a few more :-)

  • 14 daztoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    All eyes on Pardew now had enough talent to start with now it’s up to him to prove many people wrong me included that he is good enough to manage them

  • 15 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    I think next year we will see Inman slowly introduced into the squad. Bradden has all the tools to be a cracking player, and is the best of our youngsters as he is the most advanced. Campbell is probably 13 months behind him but both will go on to be very good.

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    I’d put campbell ahead of inman…dont think he will make it at the club.

  • 17 robin // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    This is the reason i believe we will sign another Striker before the Transfer window closes on Thursday. The Strikers mentioned, Bony,Aubameyang and Van Winkel are a smokescreen to distract attention away from NUFCs main target Andy Carroll whom Pardew has been chasing ever since Liverpool decided to cut their losses on the former Toon hitman. It seems quite plausible that he will be signed in this window!

  • 18 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM


    i agree but it will be hard for him to get any were near the team now (hopefully he can get some cup games)
    cambell is so determined to succeed and tries so hard i really want him to be a success and maybe thats one good thing that can come out of us being short on strikers atm that he may get some game time at some point.

  • 19 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:22 PM


    I agree mate, but with a horrendous injury list for most of the season he’s always had something to hide behind. I honestly think that he’ll be gone come the summer barring a spectacular turn around between now and May

  • 20 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:24 PM


    he is currently on loan at west ham…what makes you so confident he will sign now?

  • 21 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM


    i know he’s a geordie lad and a good striker and played his heart out for us but i really think our team has a lot better quality of players in it than carroll now even the lads we have been linked with are a hell of a lot better and would cost not even half of what caroll would cost.

  • 22 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Don’t want Carroll back, spend the majority of his time on the treatment table and we already have enough lads there. We need a Bellamy type striker (without the shyte attitude) someone with real pace and desire

  • 23 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM


    couldn’t agree more. I have nothing against carroll but I think that he is never fit and when he is fit his goals return has been poor for the past 2 years.

  • 24 boater // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    The buzz surrounding new signings was welcome and should give us a boost at K.O tomorrow. Whether or not we have dealt with the lack of match winning resilience in the team or fully arrested the losing-momentum is another matter.

    The form of Cisse remains a massive issue – despite what the ostriches and their bloody 4-3-3 miracle teamsheets have to say on the matter. I would ‘rest’ Santon as Pardew suggested – i.e. rest leaking goals down the left channel because Santon cut inside on his right, lost the ball and shrugged his shoulders.

  • 25 John Tudor // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    ross mccormack anyone

  • 26 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:30 PM


    I think cisse is struggling. Reading game he was denied by some brilliant goalkeeping but at the same time he should have taken at least 1 of those.

    Hopefully with cabaye back to fitness to feed him chances as well as marvoux we have a good chance to get him scoring again.

  • 27 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Campbell is not ahead of Inman. The club have a route to the first team in place and a loan move is a key part of that. Only our serious injury list has seen Campbell on the squad a few times. He has immense promise and ability but those that watch reserve games regularly will know that he still has developing to do.

    With 12 months of the right development, ( a relegation fight isn’t it) then you will have a player more ready for the first team. But from a physical perspective, Inman is more ready.

  • 28 toonfield // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    IMO the reason the shirt deal was only 24mil over 4 years and not 24 mil per season as per Manu, is because of the negative press lambiarse and Ashley have gained with their poor decision making and lack of communication to the fans.
    If Ashley keeps up his involvement in transfer dealings, gives big bad Derek a back seat or gives him the push altogether, wins the fans around (which he seems to be doing over the last couple of weeks) and gains a much better relationship with the fans, then I think the big money offers will roll in regarding the commercial side and shirt sponsorship etc as big firms want to be associated with clubs that have a good harmony and happy fans, not a club where the majority of fans hate the board,
    So keep up the good work Ashley and hopefully we’ll all have a great club we can be proud of

  • 29 BelfastMagpie // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Very good transfer window so far, but I’m not fully blinded by these other signings, We still haven’t replaced Demba Ba. Not replacing Ba could prove very costly.

  • 30 Joe Blog // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    If like me you have a propensity for the occasional flutter, 9/1 with Ladbrokes for a top 10 finish. 7 points adrift at the moment – good value, in my opinion.

  • 31 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    one site has said all 4 of the new signings are in line for a start tomoz :-)
    theres a slight concern about cabaye after he asked to come off last week though but he’s expected to be fit !
    i say if any uncertanty leave cabaye off and play marv sissoko and look at bringing cabaye on as sub at some point.

  • 32 martoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    No matter what the team is I think a good tactic against Villa would be to play a fast game and try and tire them out because they have played 2 cup games (and lost) since we last played. I think this match could shape the rest of our season.

  • 33 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM


    campbell is more than ready to get sub appearances…he looks a class above in the reserves….he is far ahead of players like nile ranger for one.

    I think that as his game is all about pace the lack of strength and size isn’t an issue, much the way it was for owen at that age.

    I think inman will never been a toon player…he is a decent player and a good lad but just not good enough….he is 21 and on loan at crewe, at that age he should be in the championship and playing week in week out at least.

    Campbell should have been on loan this year somewhere in the championship…..players are wasted laying reserve games. The quality is just too poor to really test them.

  • 34 alf // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Carroll, would’nt be signed for his goals, but for his ability to hold the ball up and bring players into play, you all seen how effective it was against Liverpool yesterday! And with the high energy midfield of Sissoko, Cabaye, i think there could be alot of mileage in bringing Carroll back to the club. Good call Robin!

  • 35 daztoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    It’s no so much his strange starting line ups it’s the rabbit in the headlights look he has on the sidelines if things aren’t going well,
    Nothing less than a draw at Villa will be good enough as he has had good week to work on formations,tactics etc to work on and Villa have played two games

  • 36 BelfastMagpie // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    If we cant get anything at Villa, we really are screwed. They’re rubbish.

  • 37 boater // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Transfer Sage – To be honest even during his hot streak he was missing sitters last season. I just can’t see him ever being the finisher we rely on – let alone build the team around. Looking forward to seeing Gouffran though.

  • 38 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Cisse will come good, we have created very little for the lad of late and I think that Pardew hasn’t help by playing him out wide. With Cabaye back playing and HBA returning soon enough plus with Gouffran and Sissoko adding some much needed quality to our midfield Cisse will soon be banging them in again

  • 39 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    @boater, I prefer a 4231 to a 433, just wondering if that would make me a different type of flightless bird from an ostrich? Bit of a random rant at people who have expressed their opinion on which formation the toon should play. Seems designed to get a negative, confrontational reaction? Bad mood today, maybe?

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    What I want to know is how have sunderland been sponsored 20mil a season by invest in africa.

  • 41 Stu-Prudhoe // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    I think then new players will give the whole squad a boost. No1 has really performed to their best but now they must if they want a starting position. I agree with most comments, Could do with another striker even a young one, as back up but gives a bit more of an option. Tho very hapy with business we have done.

    The squad not just the team looks stringer but I expect about 3 or 4 of the younger players to be loaned out when championship loan window opens i believe in feb. Sammy, ferguson, abeid even campbell would all b better goin out even league 1 or 2 to get first team action. Inman(crewe), Dummett (st mirren) even newton yesterday looked okay at st mirren. and we all know Good has done okay at bradford.
    Get them out on loan. Look at newtargets for the summer and get them scouted but also spk to clubs about your interest. deals cant be completed til sumer, but can be organised before hand.

  • 42 corkypants85 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Does anyone if cashley has bought jjb sports?

  • 43 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    could we stop with the no ba replacement has been got yet please as one striker has gone (ba) one has come in (gouffran) the goal tally’s over the last 2 seasons are pretty much the same so there can not be an excuse that gouffran is more of a winger.
    if in doubt watch

  • 44 Macas // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Main problem all season has been the lack of a quality left sided winger/striker, and we still haven’t addressed that problem.
    Happy with the players we have got in, but we are in desperate need of some pace and skill on the left or it could be touch and go as to whether we stay up or not.

  • 45 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM


    Cisse has a cracking goal scoring record wherever he has been. Really struggled this year but the team as a whole has been poor and he has had less chances due to the horrible way we have played.

  • 46 Wayayman // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Just a side note: Isn’t Man U’s shirt deal with Nike, but their sponsorship with AON? Subtle difference…
    I’m guessing Nike pay so much for the shirt deal due to the massive amount of sales theyd make per season.

    Like ours is with Puma, and the sponsor is Wonga. If we get 6M per season from Wonga, then compare how much ManU get from AON, not nike.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM


    yeh ashley bought a lot of shares in it when it went under and kept shops open and retained thousands of jobs.

    Obviously done it for himself but its good he saved jobs.

  • 48 BelfastMagpie // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Butler he’s been fluffing chances all season. Striker, and Right wing. We created all sorts of chances for him last game & he still didn’t score. Looks a completely different player this season.

    If we signed anybody decent, he wouldn’t be starting, in my opinion.

  • 49 robcstar // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    @Transfer Sage

    Sunderlands deal was UPTO £20mil a year. I think it all depends on whether they could get other people to invest into the charity, and as far as i’m aware they haven’t and it is working out quite a bad deal for them!

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:46 PM


    man utd got 40 mil just to sponsor the training kit off DHL but bought them out early as they can get a better deal.

    Also they signed a £350 mil deal with general motors to sponsor them.

    Plus they get the money off nike on top of that.

    Same as how liverpool get 25mil a year off warrior sports to make the kit then get whoever to sponsor the shirt.

  • 51 seanp // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM


    Carroll couldn’t play for us until next season as he has already played for Liverfool and West Ham. The rules say you can only play for two teams in one season.

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM


    thats good then…..I never knew of that, just presumed it was a set fee.

  • 53 John Tudor // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    in on loan view to buy option

  • 54 corkypants85 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Never new that just went on jjb website to buy my new france shirt and sports direct came up!

  • 55 Beattie25 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    What’s the common consensus people, will we sign anyone else?

    The thing I’m clinging onto is the fact the Pardew always comes out and says ‘no more business’. We then hope he is lying, but that is the one time he doesn’t .

    Until he says something I’m thinking we might.

  • 56 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM


    to be fair the entire team has been way off where they should be this season. Pardew’s defensive mindset and the lose of HBA and Cabaye for large parts of the season have killed all our creativity. He could have a few against Reading but for some quality saves from their keeper

  • 57 robcstar // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    I remember listening to the interview where they were talking about it and ribbing my mate, they were saying things like this ‘could’ be the biggest deal in our history and it could be ‘upto’ £20mil.

  • 58 Marzy // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Can’t wait for tomorrow’s game, really buzzing with excitement! as for the staring line up I would go as far as this: Krul
    Debuchy Mbiwa Colo Haidara

    Sissoko Cabaye Santon

    Marveux Cisse Gouffran

    don’t normally post a team but feel like this lad Haidara needs to start as he is far better defender than Santon imo & feel Santon would be better suited in a more attacking role.
    As for people wanting A Carrol to return to the club! PLEASE don’t wish that upon us! he is useless beyond belief & would not fit into the team we are trying to build!.

  • 59 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    liverpool and manu have glory supporters all over the world though (you know the ones that when they win a cup or the league ect all of a sudden they are supporters) so they will sell more than us in shirts if we ever start winning cups you will see how many world wide fans we all of a sudden get and we will have sponsors upping there prices to be on our shirts ect.

  • 60 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    The lack of confidence in Cisse is strange. Scored 6 this season despite being out of form, in a woeful team and on the wing for the majority of it.

    BA scored NONE when he was played out wide. He got one game back up front in a team that had a bit more balance (other than the outrageous decision to put shola on the wing) and his movement was superb. Tested the keeper 3 times, 2 of which were phenomenal saves. Now we have better players, will be a more attacking team, and should find him earlier. He has been the clubs top scorer over the last 12 months, and I see no evudence over his career that suggests he is suddenly a poor player.

    I think that he will show us all his worth, last season he single handedly won us games, and deserves our support as he has do e nothing but try in any position he has been asked to play.

    There are teams that would love to have a striker on 6 goals that ha basically played second fiddle all season.

  • 61 Spuggy // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Cisse has scored 4 in 21 games, with 1 assist.

    Not a terrible return for a no 9 played out of position most of the season, not great either.

    It’s time for Cisse to step up to the plate with this team behind him and I think there’s enough about him lately to show that he will. He was unlucky against reading.

    Wouldn’t it be great if he got a brace or hatrick at villa!!!!

  • 62 TheToonKing // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM


    No way Haidara is starting mate and no way is he better then Santon (yet) I reckon we’ll seen little of him this season compared to the other signing who are for the main 11.

  • 63 John Tudor // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    double figures even, its gonna be tough villa setup for war

  • 64 corkypants85 // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    You know what i think i would prefer someone who could deliver a wicked cross into the box than a really quick player down the left just think cisse might benefit abit more from it especially with moussa in and around the box aswell hes a beast of a man!

  • 65 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM


    Yeh we will never get anywhere hear the deals man utd and liverpool have.

    Hoprefully we can get more money than we currently get but be dreaming to think it will be 2/300 mil

  • 66 alf // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Who would you rather have, Ameobi the worst target man in the League or the young hungry Carroll the England international who knows how to head a ball at set pieces? Seems an easy choice to make!

  • 67 John Tudor // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    the cry is we want better than either

  • 68 daztoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Anita,Cabs,Sissoko,Marv all ball players pass and move looks one of the best midfields we’ve had for years and on paper looks as good as any in the prem

  • 69 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:01 PM



  • 70 toonfield // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Cisse will come good, starting at villa tomorrow night,
    gouf isn’t being given enough credit, his goal ratio from a top 5 French team still in Europe is very good, expect a few goals from this lad

  • 71 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    hairdryer is a defending lb where as santon is an attacking lb and santon imo is a fair bit better as a player.
    if i was pards i would be looking at hairdryer for teams we need to defend a lot against i.e. chelsea/manu/arsenal/manc ect where we can not afford to let the lb attack to much or risk being caught on the counter (he also has the right ability’s to be a cb)

  • 72 ToonMauritius // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    BREAKING NEWS : QPR has signed French International superstar “Panique Buye” on a 10 yrs contract

  • 73 AndyMac // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    You have to ask yourself why our commercial revenue is so low compared to a similar club like Spurs for example ?

    Spurs make
    Matchday Revenues £41m
    Broadcasting Revenues £61m
    Commercial Revenues £41.5m

    NUFC make
    Matchday Revenues £24m
    Broadcastings £55.6m
    Commercial Revenues £13.8m

    Yet ironically NUFC have the ninth highest average attendance in Europe and nearly 14k per match more than Spuds.

    So much of what should be NUFC revenue seems to end up in a murky black hole with Sports Direct at the other end of the hole ? Why is the Puma kit deal shrouded in so much secrecy ? Why, if its a deal worth having, arent we told about the amounts involved ?

    If you like conspiracy theories just take at look at the share price rise since the “rebranding” of SJP took place !

  • 74 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Carroll is not useless, far from it. Would be a massive upgrade on Shola, but the price would be too much. He is a good player but only at 7-8 million. Wouldn’t get him for that.

  • 75 toonfield // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Lol @72 very funny

  • 76 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:05 PM


    erm ye or…..the 18mil it would cost for caroll you could spend on 5-6 players of caroll’s quality

  • 77 alf // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Nice1 @72

  • 78 tequilamag // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Andy Mac, Spurs ticket prices are much higher than ours. if you want higher matchday revenue ticket prices would have to double

  • 79 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM


    the youtube vid on him looks awsome though ^^

  • 80 John Tudor // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    still rotfl

  • 81 toonfield // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    On the carol issue,
    He is on loan at west ham til end of season, ( don’t know if there are any get out clauses)
    I thought he’d played for 2 teams so couldn’t play for another,
    I would like to see him back next season but feel the money Liverpool would want for him would be too high

  • 82 kevymartins // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Sissokho to play vs villa pardrew said he’s pl ready.

  • 83 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    I would take Carroll back at at price that suits us, can offer a lot more than Shola. He is a 10 goal a season striker without a doubt, adds a threat to set-plays as well surely its a no-brainer? We now have a good defence (on paper) a great mid-field but we are horribly weak up top, Carroll would be one for the summer but we honestly need something to see us through til then, even a loan

  • 84 daztoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Santon and Debucey both look more of wing backs than full backs and would be better with a three cb formation

  • 85 gstadt // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    AP: ‘Sissoko will start on Tuesday, others will be in the squad [undecided]‘ Ha ha :-)

  • 86 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Daztoon you have a point..

    Pardew is a MORON if he really feels the others are on the bench we need all the fire power to blaze into Villa as we can and he is playing it “safe”….


  • 87 bills-son // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    On AC – what needs to be remembered is that AC really only cost LPool £15M – the difference between the £50M they got for Torres and the £35M they paid for AC.

    Unless AC comes back from injury and scores a hatful no way will any club pay £15M/£17M + anywhere near near the £80K a week he gets now. Rodgers doesn’t want him and I reckon they will sell in the summer for well under £10M – possibly even as low as £6M/£7M. Their real loss would only be £8M/£9M plus they get shot of his wages.

    AC is currently ‘damaged goods’ and when West Ham refuse to take up the option on him his value will plummet. I still think their could be a very good player in AC but whether he is right for us I’m not sure.

    But I’m pretty sure he’ll go for well under £10M in the summer.

  • 88 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Given the similarities between MYM and Colo i wouldnt be surprised if Saylor started against Villa to counter Benteke’s strength. Otherwise could be a tough start for a centre-half used to playing in france to come against an in-form beast of a striker? I hope not but we know how pards likes to slowly integrate players into his teams

  • 89 ToonMauritius // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    here is the youtube links, the player is actually on training
    at Loftus Road

  • 90 Shiremagpies // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    afternoon guys, does anybody else feel these last 10 days since reading has been like a life sentence waiting to come to an end waiting for tomorrow night??? aaarrrggghhhh wish it was here already

  • 91 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Oh F*** me Willo could be rising from the ashes!!! I think Pards will play more than one if them but will be keeping his cards close to his chest. No manager tells another his team a full day before. But he has said enough to let them know that we will unleash the monster that is Moussa.

    Surely MYM plays? Either way, we will steamroller Villa tomorrow. A confident and assured display awaits!! Lol, truthfully I would take another last minute winner off Papiss’ arse cheek!

  • 92 Dannyo // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Not far from the truth mate, Redknapp doesn’t have several years of scouting for the same club. :P

  • 93 aidantoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    would like to see one more forward come in!
    very happy with players that have came in and we now look a lot stronger.
    big game against villa as 3 points a must with Chelsea and spurs to follow.

  • 94 daztoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    We have to hit Villa hard and fast play a high tempo game from the start.They will be tired and had limited time training (a pardew excuse).This is a very winnable game

  • 95 ToonMauritius // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    I detest that Rednapp,
    he tricked us for Modric & Remy

  • 96 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    …So basically we are gambling on not signing a forward?

    …beside the bordeaux kid ;-)

  • 97 toonfield // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Pressure is on pards to deliver, he now has the players he needs, it’s up to him to show he deserves the managers job at Newcastle, no excuses

  • 98 belgrade fan // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Villa will be without 6 or 7 first team players

  • 99 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Mbiwa is much better in the air than willo (the only man to shrink as he jumps).

    Mbiwa has played against good forwards….ibrahimovich to name one.

  • 100 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:40 PM



  • 101 sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Lads, if we ha these players at the start of the season, we would be top 8. Defensively is where we have been so poor that we have sacrificed attacking impetus. I hope I am not wrong but I hope that with a win under our belts, and a defensive base, we can play higher up the pitch. This is so important for us.

    Last season we scrapped a win at home to Norwich and then we suddenly burst into life. I would take a similar scrappy win tomorrow. 3 points however they come would be amazing. Then we can settle down and find our rhythm.

    But please Pards don’t pick Willo. These new lads need to be put in and the rest of the team will get a lift.

    So excited to see Sissoko play, he has what we have lacked. A central player who can drive forward.

  • 102 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Get sissoko and mbiwa in the starting 11.

    Can wait to see haidara or gouffran as we have options there and dont want to make too big a change to disrupt the lads.

  • 103 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    lol @ 99 the only man to shrink as he jumps – I dont think ive ever seen a defender of his size worse at winning headers

  • 104 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    I think this window has proved that the £10-15 mil it would cost to sign carroll makes him a no go when you can sign much nuch better players from abroad for a fraction of the cost!
    Why would MA sanction a move for him he’s buisness man and has no sentiment certainly not enough to spend that sirt of money on fee’s and wages for an out of form injury prone CF
    Also disagree that his hold up play is better than shola because carrolls hold up play is non exsistent!
    Shola proved last season when used as an impact sub he was fantastic at it, this season he’s been used for 90 mins which he just cant do
    But carroll has proved to be a flash in the pan, he cant play in a side that keeps it on the ground and passe’s it (liverpool) and is struggling in a custom built squad using the ariel threat (WHU)
    Also we have no service on the wings in regards to crossing at all so dont understand what he can offer to the team

    On cisse
    The lad is severly out of form, his runs are mis timed and is constantky offside this needs to change and fast!
    He could of had a hatful against reading, yes the keeper made some good saves, but everyone if them were right at him and the other chances he widly swung at instead if setting himself, we need another CF to threaten his position
    Also disagree he’s been played out of position all season, he’s played in a fair few 442 systems so to compare his stats to ba’s when he played a solid half season as an out and out winger is distorting the facts tbh

    As for the reading game there should be no question of who starts at the back, you dont sign a £8 million pound CB, captain of his old club, and then bench him just because tayls is back, who was just as out if form as colo and wilo before his injury, he’s been bought in to stop us leaking goals he aint going to do that from the bench ffs!
    Maybe harsh on tayls and colo (whoever he replaces) but tough were in a dogfight no room to give a toss about there feelings they need to up there game plain and simple, same applies to cisse with gouffran tiote with sissoko and santon with haidara these lads have been bought in because the current crop just arent doing it

  • 105 Transfer Sage // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    mat thai

    it’s not only that he doesn’t win the headers its that your heart is always in your mouth as you see him wrap his arms round the attacker or grab his shirt.

    then up the other end he either doesn’t win the header from our corner or he fou

  • 106 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    lambert has just given an interview where it sounds like villa have already given up and are expecting to go down lol.
    no wonder benteke wants to go as villa said theres no money to buy anyone and they need to weaken the squad still lol.

  • 107 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Floppy chops saying that this window has been like “gang warfare”… wouldnt surprise me if he is talking partly about us here. Wenger had a dig the other day as well, its fair to say we’ve ruffled a few feathers and clearly (despite losing out with Remy) taken some targets from people :)

  • 108 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    I see everyon jave agreed a fee for leroy fer good signing that

  • 109 toonfield // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Pards was the one fighting his corner saying he needed 3 or 4 bodies in. He now has those bodies and quality at that – he needs to play them – if he doesn’t is he saying – well I asked for 4 but I didn’t expect and really only needed 1,
    I’ve backed pards through thick and thin but if willo is on the pitch tomorrow night I will lose all faith

  • 110 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    I get the impression that Willo and Shola train together… both terrible at one of their only things to do when on the pitch -> head the f++kin ball! always foul or lose their personal battle. Anyway positive positive… Willo 4th choice CB now

  • 111 daztoon // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    I think what we have learned from this window that you can get a lot for a 20 million investment in the team and for the team to move forward this type of investment is needed.
    Yes it’s a good idea in bringing in talented young players for next to no cost but as we have seen some take years to develop into good players and a la Ranger some just waste a talent

  • 112 LooneyToon41 // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    @87. bill-son. NO, absolutely incorrect that Carroll only cost Liverpool £15m!! They receive £50m, spend £35… and er.. that’s actually receiving £15m. Just nonsense anyway.
    The money received from selling Torres was ‘sunk’. They made a decision to spend £35m. They didn’t have to, and it’s a decision that financially had nothing to do with the decsion to sell Torres…. and that is why Comoli and Dagleish got sacked!… Phew!

    Back to the ORIGINAL point. Like it or hate it, this is the reason that Ashley wanted to sell the naming rights for St James’

  • 113 croftus5678 // Jan 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM


    reasons why saylor may not be too bad in the villa game instead of mbiwa is that saylor is a great header of the ball from corners and is still half decent in defence with only benteke and zoggy as there attacking threats.

    and i suppose seeing as mbiwa not played in the prem yet he should really watch a competitive game to see how different it is to the french league esp as so much hangs on this game (he would not want fans on his back if he messed up because of lack of knowledge in how the prem teams played)

    but i am willing to take the risk of mbiwa playing if its a choice between him or willo :-)

  • 114 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Just read Pards comments about sissoko starting etc, he is actually talking about Haidara as being one for the future but will be in the squad rather than saying that sissoko is starting but the others are only in the squad. From what he says he really rates sissoko highly, im seriously excited for tomorrow

  • 115 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    at the bottom

  • 116 bills-son // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    LooneyToon41 – I must have had a brainstorm!

    Absolutely right, Lpool are £15M up from swapping AC for Torres, not £15M down. Still think he’ll go for less than £10M in the summer.

  • 117 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    This is what pards is saying about the letter from colo – Pardew, who will include the defender in his squad for Tuesday’s vital Barclays Premier League trip to Aston Villa, said: “When you interpret one language from another, while the words can look the same, the interpretation can be slightly different and I think the interpretation of that was slightly lost, if I’m honest.

    “It’s his home-town club, of course, and he’s got friends and family there, and I think he just wanted to say, ‘Thanks for your offer of help if I needed it’.

    “Unfortunately for them, it hasn’t happened; fortunately for us, he remains our captain and committed to the cause, make no mistake about that.”

  • 118 TorqToon // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Everton pick up Leroy Fer???!! A cracking signing…..

    He’s no Sissoko though and Moussa cost 1/8th of what Fer cost Everton!

  • 119 Stu-Prudhoe // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    AFter AP press conference, he says Sissoko will start but he still deciding other areas of team, Haidara not to feature. So team by sounds looks like this:
    Debuchy Saylor Colo Santon
    Anita Sissoko
    Gouffran Cisse Marvauex

    This is the team I believe except maybe Shola will play instead of Gouffran, You know Pardew not sees us the same way as the rest of us.

    Sponsorship – I believe we do lack in this department. We couldnt sell stadium and shirt seperate last summer we hav the deal with Wonga next season. But £6/7m a year is rubbish. looks okay on our present position, but we should be getting about £15m a season from one or two deals. I think like you say commericially we are poor. I think if we are going to get better, we yes need to improve on the pitch but off the field needs to be better work done to attract big investment. If not we wil be always scouting france for cheap players.

  • 120 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    I think ALL of the new signings barring our new number 19 are supposed to play is one honestly telling me we bought Mbiwa to sit for Willo…

  • 121 rainrix // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    I wouldn’t read to much into pardews comments tbh. He’s correctly keeping his cards close to his chest with villa being such a vital game.
    Come on even pards will see mbiwa is a different class to willo.

    At least for once he’s actually giving some fighting talk something we really haven’t seen from him all season

  • 122 beefman13 // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    That man Pardew, may even start with williamson 2moro, he may start with shola, he will start with his boyfriend jonas,

    I am getting seriously worried, when i should be seriosly looking forward to 2moro night, every. Time he opens his daft mouth about fitness levels and Squad players i could frigan scream, dont put me or any others on any downers fella, that said he has to surely one day pick a team without the incompetent idiots that have got us in this position.

  • 123 WWYCD // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Tayls will be partnering our want away I’d guess Sissoko and Anita behind Cabs Marv and Gouffran either side of Offside I mean Cisse

    Could be Jonas rather that Gouffran though tbf and Gouffran to come on if Cisse fails to impress again

  • 124 LEROI // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Im not sure if a win tomorrow proves won’t be great if we lose like,but realistically the new boys may need time to blend in with what we’ve got & Pards may bottle it again & just over cautiously introduce them as last 15/20min subs & stick with wallyamson as a starter aswell because Pards is that damn stubborn! A draw will do away from home to a team scathing n clawing to reach mid table as much as us but would love a goal from either cisse(for confidence), gouffran(proves he’s a contender) or sissoko(just to pay back his promoters on here lol)

  • 125 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Pardew on Colo’s letter

    Pardew said: “When you interpret one language from another, while the words can look the same, the interpretation can be slightly different and I think the interpretation of that was slightly lost, if I’m honest. It’s his home-town club, of course, and he’s got friends and family there, and I think he just wanted to say, ‘Thanks for your offer of help if I needed it’.”

    He added: “Unfortunately for them, it hasn’t happened; fortunately for us, he remains our captain and committed to the cause, make no mistake about that.”

    Press Association

  • 126 WWYCD // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    So where’s the letter to NUFC fans who throughout his begging to leave us supported and sang his name offering all the support we could despite being shafted?

  • 127 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Me and my work mates are all laughing at the idiots on here critisising Pardews team selection for tomorrow, before he’s even made it. Classic.

  • 128 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:34 PM


    Exactly mate, it stinks that he feels bound to write to everyone related to San Lorenzo but has failed to say a single word to us. I’ve lost all respect for the guy as he’s brought all this on himself and us, but it’s just one more supposed ‘Professional Footballer’ living a life thats outside our reality

  • 129 Marzy // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    @62 IMO I do think Hadaira is a better defender, watched him a few times & lots of good reviews on him, I’m not saying Santon is awful! just better going forward instead of his defensive duties! Which a few times this season has left us exposed at the back where if we had a disciplined LB like Haidara we would be better of.
    I do agree also that it is highly unlikely that he’l start but if I was in that position I would!.

  • 130 LEROI // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    I will have all my fingers,toes,arms,legs & eyes crossed that Shola & Wally only make to the bench at best. don’t get me wrong shola will be welcome on the field of battle in the last 15mins like but Wallyamson can sit on a park bench in scumderland for all i care!

  • 131 lesh // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Transfer Sage form an earler post and re your views on Butland:

    Yes we may not need a keeper at the moment and Butland still has much to learn.

    However, with Hapeer’s contract ending soon we could extend it for another year, retaining him as a player or player/ keeper coach.

    And as Butland needs to develop further, he could do so back at Birmingham City – where he’d still be in the running for England caps.

    Jack @ 125…… Even Pardew must know that if all Colo wanted to say was ‘thanks for your offer of help if I needed it’, that’s all he should have said and if his lawyers had had any input to any letter, that’s about all they would have advised him to say.

    Surely Colo’s not so daft as to issue that letter as we saw it and I wonder if his dear papa’s had his part to play in it? Wouldn’t sutprise me in the least!

    Fact is, we could put him on the transfer list now at say £10m and he has the Villa game to show he wants to stay and play for us.

    In the meantime, our £3.5m investemnt’s appreciating in value.

    Now if I can see it, surely MA can and I think there’s a real possibiblity it could happen this window – before his value increases?

    From a financial view, buying him makes a lot of sense in my view.

  • 132 catchy in norway // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    tomorrow night is all about the manager with the biggest balls lol

    i have only seen debuchy and sissoko play, and think we got 2 very good players there,,
    the other 3, no nothing about them so time will tell

    pardew has the squad now, players coming back,,


  • 133 John Tudor // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    what is pardews thoughts maybe i have got to give my stalwarts a chance as i have been given one

  • 134 WWYCD // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    I have lost a lot of my love for Colo but we both know his name will ring out tomorrow night from the mags, deserved or not, but when he’s off in the summer I doubt I’ll shed a tear over it

  • 135 lesh // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Whoops, I seem to have copied some unecessary text into my previous pot [In the meantime, our £3.5m investemnt’s appreciating in value.

    Please ignore – ‘Now if I can see it, surely MA can and I think there’s a real possibiblity it could happen this window – before his value increases?

    From a financial view, buying him makes a lot of sense in my view’

    depite ignoring that, it still reads like the ramblings of a dyslexic two year old!

  • 136 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM


    Mate we both had different views on whether he should keep the armband where I thought it would be better to leave it as it is until the summer.


    The more I’ve thought about it, aided by the signing of M’Biwa, I would strip him of the armband and relegate him to the reserves for his lack of professionalism, the guy has been backed by all the fans and that letter along with his actions over the last week or so are nothing other than a slap in the face to us.
    What type of message does it send out when our captain, our leader wants out asap. Hand it to Cabaye and lets move forward

  • 137 JackButler // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:44 PM


    Was still trying to understand that in order to reply, but failed dismally :D

  • 138 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Ok. Look at it this way. We now have 4 recognised CB’s in the squad, 3 of which will make the match squad tomorrow. Even if mbiwa doesn’t start (I think he will) he will be on the bench. Colo will start (otherwise the whole saga was pointless). Do people really think that the other CB will be williamson over Staylor?? Unless staylor is not fit to even be on the bench, williamson won’t be anywhere near the pitch. (I will personally forge mashleys signature and sack pards myself if williamson starts the game)

  • 139 Marzy // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    @sirtoongospel 74 Sadly Caroll is useless! Yes he’s a Geordie/English but any foreigner who has his goal ratio/assist/injuries & general fitness is poor would cost anywhere between £1m to £4m but because he’s English he’s £10m plus! No way! Does not represent good value at all. Give me Danny graham any day of the week, low wages, low value willing to sit on the bench etc! “Not saying I really want Danny though! Much prefer PEA ha!

  • 140 WWYCD // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Haha glad ur on board mate won’t happen now though Pards has backed him for the captains arm band

    I wouldn’t go as far as sticking him in the reserve though, we need him for now. I do agree he seems to of slapped the NUFC faithful in the face though…I won’t be singing his name as loud anymore

  • 141 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    It might be a good idea to bench Colo for the time being!

    …but knowing Pardew he won’t do that :-)

  • 142 Markaccus // Jan 28, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    At least sissoko is deffo starting. Wonder what he means by haidara won’t feature. On the bench but not likely to play unless injury, maybe?

  • 143 TheToonKing // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Haidara won’t feature a lot this season guys. Pardew said it and everybody knows it, he’s for the future on the verge of the first team. He’s not better at the moment then Santon.

  • 144 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    wont be room for haidara on the bench. Krul, Debuchy, MYM, Colo, Santon, Anita, Sissoko, Cabaye, Goofy, Cisse, Marv – subs: Harps, Saylor, Jonas, Shola, Ober, Bigi, Perch

  • 145 Zebras4Life // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Haidara is nowhere near Santon – Santon will be our starting LM next season when he is ready

  • 146 Macas // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Has N’Zogbia been playing on right wing for Villa lately? If so then Jonas will defo play to provide extra defensive cover

  • 147 manxpie // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Haha this is class

  • 148 IITianToon // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    N’Zogbia has been fielded recently behind the front two.. according to the Fantasy Scout on the Premierleague website.

  • 149 geordiesteve520 // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    @118 Torq

    I saw that too, he will be a great signing but is he a replacement for Fellaini or to play alongside – that would be a pretty damn good battle Fellaini and Fer v Tiote and Sissoko. What happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object :p

  • 150 Dannyo // Jan 28, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Pardew has not said Haidara “won’t feature much this season”. He said he won’t feature against Villa.
    He’s signed as cover for now, with great potential.

  • 151 BigKirky // Jan 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    sirtoongospel // Jan 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM number 60

    Completely agree on Cisse. Ba got none from out wide and Cisse has a few and if we create enough chances he will put them away, I’ve got no doubts about that.

    Jonas and Simpson provide next to nothing in assists. Now we have Debuchy who can cross (very nearly had assist against Reading) and the pace of Gouffran could well get in behind defences and open up chances for the rest of the team. Plus, the two long ball pumpers Williamson and Simpson have been replaced, so the turnovers should be less, therefore we may have more opportunities to create more things.

    I just hope they all gel quickly!

    At least they can speak fluently in their leisure time to each other about how they play and a few informal strategies of how to improve their play.

  • 152 mauritius island // Jan 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Debuchy Mbiwa Colo Haidara

    Sissoko Cabaye Santon

    Marveux Cisse Gouffran

  • 153 toonluvva // Jan 28, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    I’m not surprised at the lack of revenue coming from fans.

    When I first got my season ticket in the Sovereign Bar the queues to buy burgers, chips, coffee etc were so long that you had to queue for 30 minutes to get served. After MA arrived and started messing about upsetting the fans you can now get served at the same places in less than 5 minutes. I know that the toon get money in from more than selling food on match days, but if those areas have been hit as hard as the example I have given no wonder the revenue is down.

    But nil deperandum MA, your receent spending spree combined with a climb away from relegation might yet sway the geordie fans back into your favour.

  • 154 Faddj // Jan 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    hellaw, me and a few pals are venturing to the Aston Villa game for our first away game, if anyone else on here is going, could you get in touch and let me know where all the toon supporters are going for a drink before the game, don’t fancy a pint with the Villa fans!

    I’m on twitter, @Faddj, someone get in touch, please and thanks.

  • 155 lesh // Jan 28, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Jack @ 137 and re mine of 131, here’s how the whole thing have read……… Aplologies, I must have had a Colo letter-writing moment when posting that load of tripe!!!!

    Transfer Sage form an earler post and re your views on Butland:

    Yes we may not need a keeper at the moment and Butland still has much to learn.

    However, with Hapeer’s contract ending soon we could extend it for another year, retaining him as a player or player/ keeper coach.

    And as Butland needs to develop further, he could do so back at Birmingham City – where he’d still be in the running for England caps.

    In the meantime, our £3.5m investemnt’s appreciating in value.

    Now if I can see it, surely MA can and I think there’s a real possibiblity it could happen this window – before his value increases?

    From a financial view, buying him makes a lot of sense in my view.

    Jack @ 125…… Even Pardew must know that if all Colo wanted to say was ‘thanks for your offer of help if I needed it’, that’s all he should have said and if his lawyers had had any input to any letter, that’s about all they would have advised him to say.

    Surely Colo’s not so daft as to issue that letter as we saw it and I wonder if his dear papa’s had his part to play in it? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least!

    Fact is, we could put him on the transfer list now at say £10m and he has the Villa game to show he wants to stay and play for us.

  • 156 AndyMac // Jan 28, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Faddj you’ve probably read this by now but if you missed it……..
    Where To Drink?
    There are a number of pubs in the vicinity of Villa Park, but most of them on match days are either members only or have bouncers on the door. However, Dave Cooper recommends the following for away fans; ‘The Witton Arms (formerly the Cap and Gown), is not a bad pub, to which half the pub is given to away fans (there is even a separate entrance for visiting fans). It is only two minutes walk from the away entrance, right on Witton Island, however it does charge £2 per person to gain entry’. Alex Alexander a visiting Norwich City fan adds; ‘We found a pub approximately 15 minutes walk from the ground where away fans were made welcome. It is called the Yew Tree. Although they don’t serve real ale, they had a good range of beers and Magner’s on draught. It is on the same road as the Witton Arms, but with this pub on your left carry straight on up the road, passing Witton Railway Station on your right. After about half a mile you will see the pub on the right hand side’.

    If you arrive a bit earlier then you may wish to visit the historic Bartons Arms, located about a 15 minute walk away on High Street Aston (A34). This Grade II listed building, is one of Birmingham’s finest pubs, with superb Victorian decor, serving Oakham ales and Thai food is also on offer. It is a regular entry in the CAMRA Good Beer Guide.

    Darren Williams a visiting Manchester City fan adds; ‘We have always park at an entertainment complex called StarCity. It is just off Junction 6 of the M6, going towards Villa Park. Huge free car park, plus plenty of food and drink outlets. It is then about a mile and half walk to the ground’. Please note that alcohol is not available to away fans inside the stadium.

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