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Newcastle Debut Boy – It Was A Fantastic Game For Us

12:52 am, Wednesday, January 30th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 196 Comments

Yoan Gouffran had a very good first game for Newcastle last night,  as he lined up on the left side of the front three – and showed both speed and skill in his new number 11 Newcastle shirt.

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Yoan Gouffran – will wear the famous number 11 shirt at Newcastle

And Gouffran starred in the first half, when Newcastle looked a great side and were well worth their 2-0 half time lead, but as so often happens these days, the second half was a different game – and Aston Villa went at Newcastle and gave our lads everything the could handle – but we held out for a terrific and vital 3 points. This is what Yoan said on the Newcastle web-site after the game last night:

“It was a fantastic game for us.” “The manager really prepared us well in understanding the importance of this game.” “We knew it was going to be a battle but we all wanted to come away from here with a victory,  and that’s what we did. We battled hard for it and deserved the three points.”

“We made a great start. To go two-up before half-time we felt pretty comfortable.” “However, we knew that in English football you can never relax because the team who is behind doesn’t give in.” “Aston Villa pulled one back but we defended well and worked really hard for the result. This was a great lesson for us.” “The fans were magnificent, absolutely superb.” “You just don’t get that sort of support in France. It really helped us and was amazing to see. I hope they are like that every week!”

Yoan is referring there to the 2500 faithful and dedicated Newcastle fans who went down to Villa Park for the game last night, and they made themselves heard alright – these guys and gals are the salt of the earth for Newcastle United.

And one really pleasing thing about the second half is that our lads fought like lions – and certainly you cannot criticize the team spirit in the squad – which seems as good as it’s ever been.

The lads were simply magnificent in that first half – and that’s something to build on – but we struggled in that second half – but the 3 points are so important – and it will give our lads the confidence to build on this vital win – and our very first away win of the season.

Roll on the Chelsea game on Saturday afternoon.

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196 responses so far ↓

  • 1 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    Actually thought he had a decent game on his debut there was some meaty challenges going into him which he done well to deal with

    Thought we looked better when he was on the left and Jonas was on the right ?!?

  • 2 soundoid // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    You wait until your in sjp goofy your going to love it!

  • 3 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    Solid game from Goofy.

    I have also just seen the penalty for the first time…..RIDICULOUS. That should have been a comfortable 2-0 win what a joke of a decision.

  • 4 manxpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    daztoon you’ve totally missed my sarcasm of catchy man who posts STATS STATS that don’t take in to account any circumstances of injuries,form or vwatever!!
    and beefman have a look at your posts before the game and then tell me i’m in a meltdown loll
    WE FAACKIN WON!
    as i said before how many drama queens before the game that slagged every1 and there mum complained would actually admit they were wrong and the only one i’ve noted is beefman and fairplay too him!
    every1 has an arsehole where as your just a C@NT

  • 5 county down magpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    Great start to the new lads career’s but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Chelsea is gonna be an absolutely mahooooosive game where if we get a win backed by 52000 screaming geordies it will put us in the right frame of mind to crack on. Great to see Cisse scoring tonight, it will do him a power of good. Sissokho, great first shift, cant wait to see him in full swing.

    HWTL

  • 6 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    LOL @ Dave Bassett on football first calling Sissoko “Sisko” and then taarabt “tarabat”

  • 7 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    @manxpie
    You go on about their being two teams.Why because Villa make two subs do we have to change what is already working for us.Same against Reading.We as a team look for better going forward than trying to hold a lead.Sitting back and hoofing it gets us no where,keeping possession is by far our best way of defending

  • 8 bettyswallocks // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Just heard from someone very reliable that we will be going all out to sign PEA before the deadline.

    Supposed to keep it quiet but what the hell.

  • 9 izzyb1991 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    I reckon Goofster had a great game. He can hold the ball up really well. I think he was largely Marvs replacement at the last minute. (seems like Marv must have got a knock today because I seem to remember Pardew singling him out for praise in a press conference yesterday and he mostly does that when he needs a performance out of a lad I’ve noticed). Had Marv not been injured I reckon it would have pushed Goof up top with Cisse. Say what you want about other strikers being brought in (and I agree) but I have a good feeling about Yoan and think he can do a good job and link up well with Cisse, drawing defenders across the field. He’s pretty strong and didn’t give it up in a tough game. He can be the pace up front (for now anyway). I think one more striker, be it now or be it summer, and a young, Best replacement and we’ll be laughing. Have to say I watched some clips of PEA today and the lad looks killer.

    It would be interesting to see Sissoko played up front…just a thought…

  • 10 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    It’s a win its something to build on but what we need is the first half performances from both Reading and Villa for the whole game and stop the sitting back for the second halves defending a lead.

  • 11 Cisse09 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Gr8 first half 2night but u got to take in count, both Gouffran and Sissoko played their ‘debuts 2night. It will take them a while to get used to the league! We all saw the first half ‘that is what we will be seeing the whole game shortly. Game after game’ we hope! I think pardew is the wrong man tho! Tactics wise abysmal! To start with guti!! I’d of played Shane ferguson with marveux being injured, and as As for Ameobi……!! We have had good and bad half’s all season but in the meantime with Tottenham and Chelsea coming up their going pose way more of a major threat if we have a bad half! So Pardews tactics are going be critical the next too games!!

    HWTL!!

  • 12 t00ntime // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    @manxpie tbh from the refs view i can 100% see why he gave a pen. debuchy shouldnt of tackled there like that there. It was a harsh descion but i think debuchy will tell you if he was thinking straight he wouldnt of tackled him there like that

  • 13 t00ntime // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    @betty AP said no one is coming in and aub+his club said no matter what he wont leave till at least summer… so unless we are trying to get a deal ready for the summer tell your mate that he is a sh1t itk.

  • 14 manxpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    daztoon i can’t be arsed arguing wit ya
    but if you can’t understand that there’s two teams and two sets of tactics that might counter our first half performance!
    then it’s really no point arguing with you
    but keep on playing your football manager you might win your fantasy league!
    you do know we won though don’t ya??????????????? just checking!!!!!

  • 15 Mister Tuff // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    The main thing today was the three points -also the confidence from the win should bolster all the players -especially the new players. I’m sure their attitude wont be that it wasn’t a “classic” – it is the win that counts but that second half was a nail biter. we looked a bit weak up front -certainly another striker is needed.

  • 16 crawcrook3 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Just back from the match and it was a great night there. But what stands out is how the whole team reacted at the end. They all had a huddle then came over to us, 3 of them throwing their shirts into the crowd. It clearly meant so much to them all. There were some great performances, but for me Cabaye was our drive and he was outstanding.

  • 17 BigKirky // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Torq said rumblings of PEA having been gathering the last 48 hours, so that would be great if that was the case Betty.

    Add PEA and Ben Arfa to that side in the first half (and a settled M’Biwa) and we’ll have some team!

  • 18 manxpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    toontime i never said it wasn’t a pen i said debuchy should know better in that position lol
    but the ref was shocking all game
    it’s never a good thing when a ref has a face ya wanna punch and he cirtainly has 1 i was fuming after gutti’s foul wen the ref dissmissed it with a pompous shake of his head!
    it was a foul and a shocking rake down his leg!!

  • 19 manxpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    to be honest i’m hoping for doumbia now he’s a complete striker i think PEA might be a flash in the pan
    lets all prey for doumbia :)

  • 20 t00ntime // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    @manxpie sorry read your comment wrong :P.

    I agree about the ref overal he was sh1te. but it wasnt just against us, he made some curious descions for both sides. jonas’s is definitely the first one that springs to mind.

  • 21 89Norcal // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    Not a bad debut from Gouffran, he looked very confident.

  • 22 toonLYF // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    he’s got the same agent as Messi

  • 23 t00ntime // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    @manxpie just realised i didnt read your comment wrong… it wasnt even you comment xD it was unbelievable tekkers lol… oops

  • 24 beefman13 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    Team v Chelsea, the one he started today, ive came to the conclusion its a cert were the manager is concerned, maybe a reversal of today with a stronger second half but a good result for us.

    I am going to hold back my frustrations with the manager when i see the team sheet as i am already steadying myself for the jonas, perch, situation!! deep breath now relax, and repeat!

  • 25 beefman13 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Jonas was nicknamed the Greyhound apparently, well of to the knackers yard bonny lad, you are near surely to your last race, were is san lorenzo when you need them ha ha!

  • 26 Peter // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    It’s a shame Steven Taylor can only last 5 games a season coz he is a beast. His passion is shown in every tackle he goes for and benteke was having a hard time with him.
    Goofy had a good game did his job well and I can see him doing a good job linking with cisse.
    Sissoko with all the hype that came with him he didn’t disappoint great debut and really excited to see how good this guy can be.
    I don’t think I saw much of mbiwa tbh unless he was the one that blocked the shot after Gutierrez when that corner came in.
    After this game I can see no reason why we can’t finish top half just need pardew to stop with the defend the lead philosophy and change to extend the lead!

  • 27 Carl92 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    @KHeneage
    Not sure if the club will provide an official announcement, but Kevin Mbabu completed his medical for #NUFC Tuesday. Joins the U21s.

    Think we have found out who the medical was for lads!

  • 28 beefman13 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Kevin Mbabu, Swiss wonder kid by all accounts, we have beaten most of the top clubs to his signature.

  • 29 NUFC_LEAZES END // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:26 AM

    Has fantastic is it seeing the 4-3-3 formation being played with a pacey skilful winger/striker ?? And don’t get me started with sissoko, he’s an absolute animal, imagine him and tiote omfg!!!

  • 30 NUFC_LEAZES END // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:35 AM

    How*

  • 31 NUFC_LEAZES END // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:49 AM

    @carl92

    Any link to go with those rumours?

  • 32 geordiejamie89 // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:39 AM

    Hopefully Cisse will have more confidence now, something he seems to have been lacking. Both Cabaye and Sissoko are capable of creating plenty of assists now. And Guffran looks quick on the left side. Something Newcastle have only had when Obertan has been there, except Guffran might actually score or create a goal. Add to that the great Hatem Ben Arfa returning. He will force Cisse to stay in the middle, where he’ll start getting more chances. Add to that the fact that Newcastle might yet actually bring in a replacement for Demba Ba and then things are looking really good.
    If Newcastle hold on until the summer to bring in a top striker then fair be it, but I’d rather just see it done now. That gives the new striker time to blend while he’s helping the club stay safe. And during this window is the best time to pick players up with less competition, as if Newcastle wait until summer for Wilfried Bony or Aubeneyang, then somebody else will probably end up out-bidding.

  • 33 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:49 AM

    DOES ANYONE KNOW what was going on with Jonas at the end after the final whistle?

    Pardew had his arm round him and it looked like Gutierrez was crying. Either that or he really is just a complete favourite of Pardew’s which isn’t right.

  • 34 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    Firstly 3 points are very welcome :)

    BUT

    How can you say he got the team selection right ? Come on , there is no way Jonas should have been on that pitch tonight, an I question perch to,
    Jonas had a complete shocker , and perch went missing for large parts of the game
    If we had of played any other team we would have been murderd tonight
    Krull was outstanding tonight as was sissoko,

    I think a lot of you pardew fans are glossing over how poor that second half was just to say you where right to back him,

    Subs where shocking , when he made them we had no shape at all .

    If cisse isn’t up front , why play him ?
    Shoal for perch then stick cisse wide right , pure stupidity

    Anita at times was our furthest man forward , strange when , we lost midfield he is a good mf , pardew handed them a rout back into the game with his subs

    Not looking forward to next 2 games, feel we will get a hammering

  • 35 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:04 AM

    What a game yesterday… 1st half was great to watch. Goofy really impressed me, never seen him play before, and surprised me that he didnt shirk any challenges when they got rough in the 2nd half. Villa are scrapping for their lives they were always gonna chuck everything at us 2nd half, alot of teams would have struggled against that tempo and fight but where we showed our good football and attacking play in the 1st 45 we showed a bit of resilience for the first time in AGES in the 2nd. Gives the players great confidence but even better, the little confidence Villa had will be shattered. 4 points ahead of them now and hopefully they continue to struggle which will help us move further away :)

  • 36 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:12 AM

    catchy – I agree, I thought some of his decisions today were just ridiculous. Bringing Shola on and playing Cisse on the right?!?! Mbiwa having to play DM?!?! Those two decisions made me really annoyed, he does these stupid “lets hold out” inviting pressure onto us.

    Ba is gone and yet Pardew is CHOOSING to play Cisse on the right?!?! He’s redundant there.

    I felt sorry for Mbiwa having to come on and do something he didn’t look comfortable with at all.

    And Gutierrez….teacher’s pet.

    I’m not saying I want him gone, but I’d love to hear his reasoning behind these things. It seems like pure illogic.

  • 37 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:27 AM

    RE sissoko being replaced with MYM. Sissoko was clearly struggling with an injury and appeared hobbling just being he was taken off (hopefully just a pre-caution) and pards obviously wanted experience and power in the centre which is why he picked MYM over bigi. To be fair the way villa through everything at us i feel it was a good decision as he ended up playing almost as a 3rd CB. Shola also to help deal with all the balls being put in the box, he was hardly upfront Cisse wasnt really pushed to the right for long it seemed the idea was that he was going to be the outlet or our clearances and any possible break aways

  • 38 Mat Thai NUFC // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:27 AM

    just before being taken off***

  • 39 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:39 AM

    I understand the reasons I just don’t like his ‘Sit back and absorb it, then hoof it away’ mentality- it just invited Villa onto us even more than they naturally were.

    It’s also that I don’t like the idea of us buying a CB with potential to be an absolutely phenomenal player for the club and then playing him out of position on his debut!
    It’s hardly giving him a comfortable atmosphere to settle into a new club!

    ….If he EVER plays williamson ahead of him…..

  • 40 donkeypunch // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:58 AM

    not only can mym play anywhere across the back 4 he has played dm for Montpellier lots of times i know we didnt match are first half peformance but not a lot of teams do in the prem nowerdays even when two goals up its a not safe anymore even for the top sides to try and hold on to leads its all about the battle now and who can hold there nerve look at qpr there grinding out results againt the starstudded sides who on paper should easily win but it never is when your in a relagaton battle. so enjoy this win because every game is going to be a just as tough till the end of the season

  • 41 donkeypunch // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    i think once we get a run of results together we will gain more confidance to take control of the games but until we get are confidance we going to battle out every game like this when theres so much at stake the pressure is going to affect all the players to panic and try and defend there lead

  • 42 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    Watching our games is not good for my health. Why can’t we have 2 good halves? I still don’t understand what AP tactics are. Lambert deserved a praise, he change tactic to be aggresive, but AP always change his tactic after we lead and became horrible.
    We have better squad under AP (before 5 new arrivals) than when Houghton was in charge, but we can’t score more than 3 goals (only 4-4 draw vs Arseanal). Is he not happy if we win more than 3 goals?
    If Lambert or any other decent manager in charge instead AP, we would have many good comfortable wins. Look at our squad, so many good talents in it. I know that this is good result our 1st away win, but it was lucky win not due to good management or tactical. If Nzogbia didn’t hit the post and Krul wasn’t as good, we would have lost that game, 2nd half we were owned by Villa. Everyone knew Villa will go all out in 2nd half and AP made it worse, the players must have looked for some instructions from AP and AP just made it worse, it’s like he is also confused and didn’t know what to do.

  • 43 brklyngeordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:16 AM

    What a game ladies and gents and doom mongers of the board what a game : )…. I admit i am not a Jonas hater and admit his form is not lacking but why throw him under the bus as everyone will be needed?? I pull for anyone wearing the black and white whether up to some peoples standards or not just need to fulfill the role assigned to them..Many questioned the Jonas start and were right he did not perform well but many also questioned Perch and he did a job that was asked which was to mix it up which he did which in turn allowed Sissoko to play as fwrd as he was in game.. All im saying is we won enjoy it encourage all the lads including the Gaffer… As for the debutants Sissoko looks a player and reminds me of one YaYa Toure hope he can be near as good and we have a gem on our hands; Gouffran i think did very well considering who he worked with and how physical a game it became and managed to come away unscathed and was not fearful very exciting player when HBA gets back scary; Mapou was put in at an awkward time and situation and looked out of sorts but that block in end was MASSIVE.. Very very happy to see Cabaye back as well amazing player irreplaceable and Saylor as always played with all he had wish this lad would stay healthy..HWTL!!

  • 44 brklyngeordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:17 AM

    sorry; Jonas form IS lacking*

  • 45 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:28 AM

    brklyngeordie

    I know that you watched the game full 95minutes. Isn’t it strange that even with good players you mentioned that we had usual routines (1 good haf and 1 bad half)?
    I know it’s a good win, important win, our 1st away win in this season, but… Were you comfortable watching it? I almost peed myself watching that 2nd half.
    This is not just one game, but it’s always like this. We always support the team, not only the gaffer, but he keep making it worse during the game. It’s a frustrating win.

  • 46 obatoyou // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    pussies, still drinkin here
    granted the gsame finished at 6am in Aus, is now 2pm
    nothin more to say mate
    me and Ashley we is like this

  • 47 Krul Blow // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:47 AM

    I would like to call out

    Check the Toastie
    JackButler
    Gorgonzola

    all called Pardew “Clueless” ahead of this game on this blog. What a bunch of clueless jokers they have been proven to be.

    And I can assure you that they were by no means the only one’s writing predictable negative cr@p on here.
    Well the only thing that matters is that Pardew orchestrates the team so that we get 3 points per game. And for that Mr Pardew, I salute you.

  • 48 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 6:14 AM

    obatoyou

    How can the game finished 6am when it’s started 6am in aus?

  • 49 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 6:16 AM

    you have too much to drink, mate

  • 50 89Norcal // Jan 30, 2013 at 6:31 AM

    Krul

    check does that day in day out in the hopes he’ll eventually be right about Pardew.

    What we saw in the first half was a small bit of the potential of this new team, and I have high hopes once we have Hatem back and the new boys settle.

    What we saw in the second half was nervousness, same frantic tactics, and a desperate Aston Villa fighting as hard as they could. It was the same toxic defeatist mentality that crept into our side.

    Pardew must have though subbing Mbiwa for Sissoko would be a cute gesture to get his debut. If he wants fans to take him seriously hopefully he will use Mbiwa properly next time. Gouffran should also have stayed in the side. I’m getting massively tired of Krul kicking away possession on every GK.

  • 51 Charlietoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 6:31 AM

    I tweeted Jonas to put a picture of the back of his leg up…let see if he responds cause I want to send it on to Mike Dean

  • 52 thai-mag // Jan 30, 2013 at 6:45 AM

    a dodgy penalty got villa back in game, I’m pleased collo’s trouble’s didn’t affect his game

  • 53 89Norcal // Jan 30, 2013 at 6:52 AM

    Mike Dean is one of the worst refs in the Prem. He’s also got a hair trigger on his yellow card.

  • 54 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 6:58 AM

    btw I’m supporting Jonas, he is confused on the role he has to play this season, he was much better last season. He received bad tackles in 2nd half and the ref didn’t do anything instead gave him yellow card and then he was pushed intentionally and the ref also didn’t do anything which frustrated him. AP should have replaced him because he wasn’t playing with the right mind.
    This is the 1st time I saw Jonas losing his temper like that.

  • 55 Toon73 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:00 AM

    Santon03 @ 48

    He must be in West Oz. Here in Sydney kick off was 6.45am this morning. They don’t have daylight saving.

  • 56 Scouse_geordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:00 AM

    Gonufc-are you crazy? A lot of people are coming out with similar comments, so I’m guessing its contagious. Our subs didn’t change the game, villas did.

    we were comfortable first half because they had no outlet other than betenke. Once they brought on Gabby and wiesman it gave them width and pace, which pulled our full backs wide and created space in the middle. From the min the second half started, they had the impetus, they had the drive.

    We were always gonna struggle to get hold of the game after that, especially after reading.so the changes Pardew did made sense. sissoko and gouff were never lasting a full game at that tempo, and mbiwa had played dm lots of times.anita was allowed to chase in the middle as they were only only playing long balls and then Ameobi could sit and Marshall benteke.

    As for cisse, when he was moved to the right we weren’t looking to score.it was to try and keep some shape, and to stop their left back doubling up on debuchy with Gabby, after all pardew can only make 3 changes and who else could he move wide….Ameobi?

    Thus isn’t football manager and games have momentum and sometimes you have to accept that and try to absorb it.at the end if the day we only conceded through a penalty and we got all 3 points, far a I’m concerned, job well done.

  • 57 Krul Blow // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:04 AM

    Regarding my comment at 47, those three all made the ‘clueless’ remark after they saw the team selection for the game. Bwahahaha!

  • 58 check the toastie // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM

    Sorry Boys i am right about Pardew, however am going to give it a break as it is aout to give me a heart attack.

    The bloke is f##king useless, people seem pleased and content that we are 16th in the league. His judgement and reasoning is beyond comprehension, his reliance on Jonas is incredulous. I am now weary of his stubborness and stupidity, if he doesnt see the fact that every time he plays Shola our football goes down hill then the man is a clown.

    Pardew watched our football breakdown every time the ball went anywere near Jonas tonight, however nothing will be done and he will be in the team on saturday, it frustrates the shit out of me. Jonas has been a waste of space for 12 months. Baffling.

    PARDEW OUT.

  • 59 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:07 AM

    Im not a big Pardew fan but it’s a bit harsh to give him stick for yesterday, we won that game because we outplayed them in one half away from home in a six pointer, they got a penatly and were back in the game and our team lost it a bit but Villa were playing like a team in their postion always, that second half was never going to be a walk in the park

    We got 3 points, atleast give him some credit for that, you can blame him for the position we find ourselves in if you want but give credit where credit is due, some of you must get sick of writing the same posts on here day in day out no matter how well we play or what result we get

  • 60 Dannyo // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:09 AM

    @Check
    Well, you didn’t give it a break for long then. About one line.

  • 61 89Norcal // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM

    check, your blood pressure is entirely your own doing. You want to disregard injuries and lack of acquisitions. Any manager would be screwed in a similar situation where we have a horrid run. Look at Martin Jol (who some here vaunted).

    Most Newcastle fans will have their mind made up by Summer, whether Pards should stay. And that’s only is someone proven is lined up to replace.

  • 62 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:16 AM

    Santon03 – I’m with you on Jonas. Some people last night proper threw him to the lions.

    Yes he isn’t the flair player he once was, and yes he isn’t the best player we have in this side, but the lad did all he could. He was getting kicked left, right and centre, properly targeted by the villa players after the yellow card, but kept plugging and cleared the ball off the line. He helped us win all 3 points whether people like it or not.

    Pards embraced with Guti at full time because he could SEE how they targeted him and he received zero protection from Dean (awful ref btw)!!

    This morning will be a much more grounded blog with people who understand football – as opposed to all the neggers who appeared the very SECOND deb’s gave away the pen.

    HWTL

  • 63 geordiefromthemidlands // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:17 AM

    Shola marked Benteke at the end of the game. Jonas cleared off the line and mapou put a huge block in. Works for me. Howay the toon

  • 64 WesJameson // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    Mike Dean = F@#$ing usless, worst display by a ref, i have ever seen, Villa could of had two red cards, 1 definitely, shake your head man, your eyes are stuck, tw@t!!!

    AP = clueless, again inexplicable substitutes
    Jonas= past it, legs are gone, and is so off form, its scary, worst game in a toon shirt
    Sissoko = WOW!!!! What a player we have here lads
    Goufran= Solid, ran out of steam a bit, but looks really promising
    Cabaye= Brilliant player, nuff said

  • 65 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    I have to agree with checkthetoastie in this matter. If any of us in the same position as pardew, we would have replaced Jonas, he wasn’t in the state of mind and he already received a yellow card.
    I can’t give any credit to pardew last night, because it was luck that gave us the 3 points. Between 2 managers, I’ll give credit to LAmbert for changing tactic when it didn’t work.

  • 66 dmac // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    Big shout out to all the travelling fans. Was the best atmosphere i have encountered in a long time. Simply never stopped singing.

    My short review on the game –

    Dream ball by Sissoko
    World class finish by Cabaye
    Dive by agbon
    Never give up attitude.

  • 67 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:21 AM

    Maybe i was wrong….

    Check – Who says we are happy in 16th place??

    That is where we are at right now…NOBODY is happy with it. I feel you are blinkered by your distinct dislike of Pards to see what’s really going on. Pards got it right last night, didn’t hear anybody complaining during the first half. Second half villa threw everything at us and we were forced too (NOT decided too!!) give up some possession and hang back.

    Had Marv have played ahead of Guti last night he would’ve been bullied out of the game 100%.

  • 68 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:22 AM

    Wes – Serious question, you honestly think the substitutions were inexplicable?

  • 69 reccerobbo // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    Florian thauvin has signed for Lille!!!
    Looks like he didn’t want to challenge himself in the prem

  • 70 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:27 AM

    @reccerobbo

    Maybe he just doesn’t want to sit on the bench somewhere and actually progress as a footballer until he’s old enough to play in a bigger league

  • 71 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:28 AM

    Santon – You can’t give ANY credit to pardew?

    Howay man, come on. First half he set his team up perfectly. Had villa not have brought on 2 very good players at half time we would’ve walked the game. They won a penalty that was very soft – then got their tails up.

    It’s strange how the first half display was all down to the players – yet the second half display was down to the manager!!?!

    My brain hurts…

  • 72 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    Reccerobbo – Thauvin always stated he wasn’t ready to leave France. He gets extremely homesick even whilst on pre season tours etc.

    Lille is a good choice for him.

  • 73 WesJameson // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    @ TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:22 AM

    Mate, bringing on Shola….that says it all really, then playing Cisse on the right, not taking off Jonas, who was having an absolute mare, playing people out of position etc etc

    How can you not agree?

    Also forgot to mention that Krul, was outstanding!!
    Welcome return for Steven Taylor, million times better than Willo

  • 74 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    Torq

    Also marv has said himself he prefers a central role, plus he was injured last night so not really many options….only alternative to jonas was obertan or sammy, who both offer very little in games.

    I do think jonas was poor, there is no point him playing to defend if he keeps giving the ball away and conceding fouls as that is just counterproductive.

    Now onto the game.

    Villa didn’t turn up in the first half apart from maybe for 5 minutes after we scored. We looked really good because they let us.

    Second half they changed in and it really payed off for them, they were over running us and they have players with good pace who can trouble any side on their day (they just haven’t had many this year).

    I think Pardew made some good subs, shola on was to keep the ball up the top end, which he usually does well when coming on for 20/25mins but he was poor (not pards fault he had a bad game last night).

    Bringing off gouffran was good, he looked like he was tiring.

    Mbiwa coming on was a good move, watch the defence and try to win headers before benteke.

    Overall it was what we needed, a hard fought 3 points.

    Having a struggling second half may be the catalyst for one final buy in this transfer window.

  • 75 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    @torq

    “It’s strange how the first half display was all down to the players – yet the second half display was down to the manager!!?!”

    ha good point, the legion of doom seem to think this was always going to be an easy game, it was a 6 pointer relegation battle away from home ffs. Also they always seem to foregt their is an opposition manager making tactical changes to outplay you, so keeping the same tatcics as the 1st half was probably never a good idea.

  • 76 LGFUAD21 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    Catchy

    Agree that Jonas was a liability tonight and brought nothing to attack OR defense except that block.

    But Perch? I thought he had a very solid game. Made good passing decisions. Swept up at the back. Broke up attacks.

  • 77 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    James Perch was all over Weimann.

    Two clean, fair solid tackles and Weimann is hoping around like a bunny.

  • 78 WesJameson // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    of course the second half had to do with Pardew…

    Lambert, made two astute subs…ripped them a new hole at half time, and they came out fighting…

    Makes you think, what the Feck did Pardew say to our lads at half time, because straight from kick off ( 2nd half ) we looked a different team

    Already spoken about the subs he made….enough on that

    MY mind hurts….

  • 79 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:36 AM

    Torq

    I have nothing against Jonas as I said before, he has been very loyal and give 100% everytime.
    If you were pardew after what happened to Jonas last night, would you or would you not replace Jonas? If it was me, I would replace Jonas. I don’t mind Jonas playing every game.

  • 80 geordiefromthemidlands // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:40 AM

    Some bile and some sense again from posters. Understandably so from both sides.
    @torq morning mate. Any more substance in the rumours about us going all out for PEA? Gouffran played well against a tricky situation but still think we need fire power up front.

  • 81 Sir Braveheart // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    Cant fault the team first half. Second half shows what lack of cinfidence can do. We’ve thrown away so many leads this season that when they scored so early I think the team got nervous. Get a couple more results that nervousness should go.

    As for subs I can see the logic. You want Mbiwa to get some experience of the PL but not at the risk of disrupting the back 4 who played well, so DM makes sense, try to shore us up. Pl is quicker than French league too so its understandable after the efforts first half that Sissoko and Gouffran would need a rest. Shola comes on as target man to hold the ball up high up the pitch and take pressure off defence. Makes sense to me.

    Confidence is key now. Our players have got into a losing mentality, where once a team comes back into a game we think we’re going to lose. What helped today is the new guys dont have that mentality because they havent experienced Reading, Everton etc. Break that mentality and we’ll win most of our remaining games.

  • 82 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    I think everyone agrees that Jonas is on a download slope of his career. He is losing the things that used to make him very good, he isn’t getting crosses in as well, he is sloppy in his passing, he conceded a lot of fouls, he seems preoccupied with winning a free kick and not advancing the play.

    But having said that he will give his all so I can’t fault him, he is trying his best.

    I would like to see him on the bench but we don’t really have many choices on the wing.

  • 83 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    Anita – ha ha yeah that was pretty hilarious and in contrast to that bennet I think it was (who scraped jonas calf) who was an evil hacker all night. Perchy shows the way.

  • 84 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:45 AM

    fray

    remember vs reading? only this time we were 2-0 up in the 1st half.
    from all the games we watched this season, home or away we never had good 2 halves or good 70 minutes. Even Wigan played better with 10 men.

  • 85 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    sir braveheart

    I agree entirely with your view.

    Shola usually does the job very well of coming on with 20 mins to go and holds the ball. He just had a poor game last night, pardew couldn’t have foreseen that.

  • 86 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    first half brilliant
    second half Reading repeat
    Sissoko’s got class – first half Villa could not pick him up, floated in midfield always had space and wanted the ball – second half dropped deeper not so affective.
    Goufron – had a ‘canny’ game liked his movement and has a few tricks – showed Shola how to run, cross and put pressure on goalkeeper

  • 87 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:48 AM

    santon03

    wigan did not play better with 10 men. They had 1 shot on goal….we restricted them to having not a single good chance, they just took a few pot shots.

  • 88 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    Morning Gents….Man o man, did last night get tense or what?

    At the end of the day it was a huge 3 points for us and that was the most important objective today. Despite some shakiness, we showed a hell of a lot of positives to.

    1) We did pass and move reasonably well in that first half.
    2) All of the new signings handled themselves well and didn’t seem to get lost in the occasion.
    3) Cisse can still finish :)
    4) When we need to, we can throw bodies in front of the ball. That was brutal at the end and no doubt confidence was slipping but they were determined and got the job done, that will do everyones confidence the world of good.

  • 89 bills-son // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    Great win but if Weiman had put that chance away when he was in acres of space on the edge of the box I would have been screaming even more at Santon. Soz for harping on about him but the guy is an absolute liability defensively. Time and again the second half he was nowhere near his correct position. I couldn’t give a sh1t how good he looks going forward his first priority in the team is to defend well – and he aint doing it by a mile.

  • 90 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:54 AM

    Wes – I partially agree with your comments on Jonas however we didn’t have the option to replace him. Obertan possibly – although we weren’t allowed the space to get the ball down and utilise our wingers effectively. And sammi wouldve been a terrible change! simple as. I just think he is having all the stick for not an awful lot.

    Ameobi was brought on for one reason, to add height and strength to a team in midst of a battle. He wins most balls in the air and it a very goo defensive weapon. This allowed the midfield to be packed with ball playing footballers in attempt to get some more control. Perch played very well but was starting to get overrun.

    Yes I WOULD’VE replaced Guti – but we didn’t have a suitable replacement for the needs of the game.

  • 91 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    bills

    I think it’s important to have a fullback who can attack and I like santon for that.

    However I agree that santon hasn’t got the balance right and needs to learn.

    hopefully debuchy be able to show him how to do it properly.

  • 92 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    Okay, this is why I couldn’t give any credit to pardew, this is my view of last night game:
    1st Jonas wasn’t pplaying his best after receiving so many tackles and yellow card, he lost control of the ball few times when villa players approaching him and didn’t replace him.
    2nd. what did Perch do wrong to get replaced when villa going all out?
    3rd why Cisse play as RW again? he is a striker not a good ball winner or defender.

    I’m just confused.

  • 93 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    Bills-son – That’s a big BUT there with regards santon.

    There are always plenty of what if’s and buts after any game. I believe last night would’ve done the world of good for our boys to try and boot the losing mentality we picked up.

    On PEA, all I know is talk has been increased and movements with his club and agents have increased massively. It’ll be tough to get the deal done properly between now and tomorrow night…

    Tough…but not impossible. :-)

  • 94 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    santon

    I do agree with some of that.

    If cisse is going to be shifted to the right you would be better off just bringing him off as he is ineffective there going forward or backward.

    All I know is our play is getting progressively better, we had 3 january signings in the starting line up which makes the game harder but they seemed to link well.

    Mainly we got the 3 points, in a relegation battle its points not performances that get you out of trouble. Obviously a good performance helps gets points but we played well in the first half which is a start.

  • 95 89Norcal // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    True the only one who could have filled in for Jonas is Fergie since Marv was out. But hopefully after seeing Jonas screw up a simple dummy right in front of the bench, Pardew will re arrange. I really hope his intentions are to push Santon up and Jonas back or put Haidara there.

  • 96 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM

    Santon-

    1 – Replace Guti with who?!?!
    2 – Perchy was replaced purely to try and change the way we could’ve retain the ball in the middle of the park. He did nothing wrong.
    3 – Cisse didn’t ‘play out wide’! He took up that position when shola was on the pitch as he was being used as a target man to try and hold up the ball. He wasn’t sent out with the words “play wide right, papiss!”! He isn’t utilised best out wide – but sometimes the opposition in the game dictates our style of play.

  • 97 saxonfenken // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    TorqToon
    Once again you have put the game in a nutshell, I agree with all your points,
    we needed badly 3points and got them, Villa played with a flat back five in the first half and changed to a 442 formation at the very start of the second half, if completely changed tactically Villa’s whole approach. with the penalty coming after only 2 mins of the second half gave them all the impetus they needed. We want to thank our lucky stars that we survived with the three points, and not slag off the players and Manager, it was always going to be difficult

  • 98 89Norcal // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    What makes me nervous is I saw Pardew consoling Jonas after the whistle, hugging him and patting him on the chest like he was trying to encourage him.

    F#!& me, he might just keep playing the man.

  • 99 LGFUAD21 // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Cisse is no wing, but he kept the ball better on the right when he floated over than we were.

    He linked up well will sissokho and cabs.

    We want left side all first half and second half we got punished on it, but our right side remained fairly tight.

    Problem was we failed to slow the game down and keep composed in the second half

  • 100 LGFUAD21 // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    It really was a big game played on emotions.

    First half we rattled villa had them running scared and demolished their confidence by coming out of the blocks.

    Second half they did the same to us. We felt in control and in a few seconds it set in that we were not in such a safe position and that spread fear through our players who were a little too desperate for all three points.

  • 101 Santon03 // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:14 AM

    Torq

    I’m sorry I don’t mean to keep arguing you about this.
    I was confused with pardew choice of subtitution, in my view it would have been better if Jonas was taken off instead Perch.

  • 102 saxonfenken // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    I do not think Jonas was singled out for special praise deliberately, it is natural for a relieved Manager to go to a long serving player who he has known for a long time. I noticed that and wondered at the time how much venom would be made from it on here, as usual sadly it has.
    we got 3 points for Christ’s sake, so lets celbrate

  • 103 saxonfenken // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    Celebrate even

  • 104 Mund30 // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    I am shocked to see some of the negativity from some of you so called fans, whether its about Pardew, the subs, the tactics whatever it dont matter we have picked up 3 points and not to mention our first away win of the season the last team in all divisions to do so, which says it all. Pardew’s subs last night couldnt of been any better he brought on Shola to have some hold up play up top because he is the only guy on the books who can do that. Sissoko came off because its his first game and no doubt he was tired as was Gouffran. What was actually wrong with the subs?. Anita was a good shout for me workhorse in the middle and what we needed and people slating putting Mbiwa in DEF MID role, are you stupid this guy played multiple times in this position for Montepellier and is very capable of holding that role, but he looked more like a 3rd CB and did a great sliding tackle from Guti’s block. Its tough to try and change the game with the squad we have, with Ba we had a hold up guy strong won headers, held the ball well but now he’s gone and the only player who can hold that role is Shola, Cisse is just not that kind of player. So when you have a team going at you with everything going long and having a player who can hold up the ball is vital but not even Shola could do that last night.

    Lets not dwell on anything negative from last night because all i see is positives and first half performance was excellent would of been a match for any team, but with nervousness which you could see and players not 100% fit it was always gunna be tough holding out but we did and its a fantastic 3 points lets not forget that, so bring on Chelsea ive got a really good feeling about that game and hopefully it will be a bad return for Ba and lets make sure he knows that. HWTL

  • 105 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    LGFUAD – Your wording of Cisse “floating” over to the left is absolutely spot on.

    He wasn’t sent out to play there, rather as the game progressed and the changes were made, he found himself drifting over.

    The fear and desperation factor of last night was very real, but coming away with a win will do wonders for the lads.

  • 106 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    I think the game really summed up our confidence issues more than the supposed inabilities of our manager. First half showed the skill and belief that is their in the squad, backed up by a decent plan from the manager (or was that first half in spite of Pardew?….yawn). Second half we once again struggled to make the simplest of passes, surely that’s a confidence issue and not the manager? What on earth could he say to make players not be able to pass the ball? I think it’s nerves.

    Yellows were getting picked up left, right and centre and I honestly felt a red was coming at some point, so I guess Perch was taken off to allow Shola to try and bully some of their players.

    On Jonas have to say I found him frustrating to watch last night. Still felt he covered a fair bit of ground and worked his ass off.

    It’s always going to be tough when you have a team constantly knocking in balls from around the half way line, we just didn’t seem to be able to control enough passes to be able to make a counter attack, fair play to Villa, it wasn’t pretty, but fairly effective and seriously put us on the back foot.

    Not pretty, but 3 points that we should all be happy with.

  • 107 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Pardew and the players got far too negative in the second half. Good win in the end. I could understand why shola was brought on to hold things up and keep the ball, but it didn’t really work. Not all his fault either, other players were too scared to come up field and help out. If we can keep the ball better, and just be that little bit more positive in seeing a game out, we should be fine.

  • 108 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:23 AM

    Mund – Great post. Had the debate last night about Yanga’s ability to play DCM and people just didn’t see it! He has player there more times than I can remember – and it was the right call.

    Santon – Dont be daft. It’s not an argument mate. It’s purely debate with regards or game and everybody is entitled to their views. Some of last nights posters knew absolutely nothing about football and wanted to purely spread negativity. You don’t. We are just deconstructing last night. It’s all good.

    3 points is the important thing – add to that Cabaye getting back on form, sissoko’s and gouffrans great debuts and tayls and Krul having outstanding games – last night was a very good night!

  • 109 Krul Blow // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Danny @59
    Too true… sadly.

  • 110 Mund30 // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    @Torq
    Some people are just idiots mate always being negative, not happy if they dont have anything to moan about. But have we ever thought of the possibility that the scum come on here just to be negative?? because i just dont get it. I was over the moon last night even tho we made it tough for ourselves, but never underestimate a team in a relegation fight they will fight to the end as Villa did.

    As i can agree we shouldnt play Guti with a full strength side i dont agree with everyone slating him, this guy has bled for this team worked his socks off for the black and white and all i read is people talking crap about him. We didnt have anyone else to go in that role and nobody who works as hard as Guti. But then reading on these forums you cant keep everyone happy.

    HWTL bring on Chelsea

  • 111 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    Ibizatoon

    this is where pardew should be earning his money,, building them up,,

    for me this was the same game as reading, infact i think the reading first half was much better

    for what ever reason, pardew got them in at half time and the team fell to bits second half, and with a bit of luck on there side, they would have won,, hit the post and many great saves from krul ( thats his job),, but i dont think we tested there keeper like they tested ours

    the second half was a shambles really,, once those subs started it was all out defend, with players out of position,, this is never good

    jonas,, that was his worst ever game for us, and still stayed on for 90 mins

    cisse was playing right back at one point

    yes once again, against a very poor team , pardew tried to shut up shop early

    perch playing in front of anita?? whats that about?

  • 112 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    torq

    Exactly.

    I’m not sure what people are expecting from this team. We have been scrapping around the bottom of the league all season….will 2/3 new players suddenly give us top of the league form? no chance.

    We will get out of it and be stronger for it next year but people thinking we will no be tearing teams apart are kidding themselves.

    We have improved the defense a lot and added a player with talent to the midfield as well as gouffran up top.

    However we are still undercooked out wide especially without ben arfa being available.

  • 113 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    Mund – I’m sure Makems are rife on here on a match day.

    Log on to a NUFC blog or watch there own team play football!?!?!? Easy decision…! :-)

  • 114 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    Markaccus

    no it wasnt,, shola had no support, because villa where awsome :( yeh right,,

    pardew almost throw the game for us,, AGIAN

  • 115 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    Transfer Sage

    A GAME OF 2 HALFS :(

    pardew must kill the confidence at HT,, that was not the same team that came out

  • 116 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    Perch is stronger on the ball and wins more 1:1 battles than Anita does. Hence why he was picked ahead of him. A choice that paid off greatly.

    Anita is the better player, no doubt – but perch was the right call for the job we needed to do.

  • 117 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    I’ve been a fan of jonas’ attitude over these past few years, and his ability to somehow draw several defenders to him, without doing much. In the past it has created space and time for other players. Last night, however, he seemed a shadow of his former self, and emotions also got the better of a normally level headed player. I don’t think he’s finnished as a toon player, but he’s not a starter for me anymore. His primary job is to cover santon, and he didn’t do that last night, so there’s not much point in having him on. Last 20 mins along with shola now.

  • 118 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    catchy

    Why cant you take the positives as well as the negatives from the game.

    - we showed a great determination to keep the opposition out
    -krul has returned to form
    -everybody gave their all, even if the quality was lacking the effort was not
    -the new lads settled well
    -the first half was a good display as any this year.

    I get there were negatives but during this run points are the key things we need….you dont stay up just because you play good football you need the points.

    Villa have some good players though, n’zogbia, benteke, weinman, agbonlahor all dangerous up front and on form can worry any team.

  • 119 Mund30 // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    Aye mate i bet they do, but im off this thread now i cant take the negativity from some people, when today we should have smiles on our faces and enjoying the fact we won.

  • 120 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:41 AM

    Catchy…I would argue he did his job before kick off, the players started with absolute purpose and we did dominate that first half (yes, Villa had a few chances, but that is expected in football).

    Can’t really disagree with the likeness to the Reading game, except that Villa really took the long ball game to another level, wheras Reading tried to play some better football imo.

    What is it you think Pardew is saying to the players then? Once again, what I saw was an opposing team come out of the blocks running, there is nothing a manager can say to his team to stop them starting that way, the players need to dig deep, retain the ball and take back the power, we couldn’t.

    I don’t for one minute think it was Pardews tactic to sit back for 90 minutes, did you not see his frustration at our inability to hold on to the ball and silly misplaced passes?

    Jonas as a creative force seems to be well and truly over. This is not meant to be disrespectful, but he is a work horse and covers ground. As I said before the game, I believe Jonas’ days are numbered, but he wont be excluded until the confidence levels are back up, which will only happen once we start collecting points, the manager can say anything he wants, but real belief will only return when we start winning on a regular basis.

    Didn’t understand Perch for Anita tbh, however, Perch did a great job and it gave us better options from the bench. Could still argue why, but what is the point? Job done, 3 points in. Most of us weren’t expecting miracles overnight, this was a decent enough first step. Massive night for the club.

  • 121 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Catchy – Did you ACTUALLY see any positives you enjoyed from the game??

  • 122 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    …… And catchy still manages to blame the WHOLE thing on Pardew. Just eff off. The penalty killed the confidence, the players should be more professional than to let a bad decision upset them so much. Your hatred of pardew is idiotic. Putting shola on was actually the right thing to do, for once, but the players were too scared to go up and help him. The only way that could be pardews fault is if he was actually playing. Just shut up, please, for the benefit of everyones sanity, shut the hell up.

  • 123 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Transfer Sage

    the pluses have been there all along for me,, i think we have got a good team that has just beem made a lot stronger,,
    i think goufran didnt have a good game,, but its was his first game, so he will get better

    sissoko, ran his heart out, but had end product,, jonas was very very poor,,

    but i carnt see what has changed with how he wants to play,, pardew still has players all over the place,, and he did have more options last night

    first half was as good, but second was as bad as any, only this time we kept a lead

  • 124 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Catchy…I also mentioned yesterday that I thought Pardew would be cautious with team selection as this was going to be a gritty game. Lots of emotion as we’re both in a relegation battle and we obviously still carry some pain from that fixture in our relegation season.

    I think that is the main reason we saw the inclusion of Taylor and Perch. Two players who aren’t afraid to let people know they are there and to throw themselves in to challenges and guess what…it worked. Not claiming it to be good to watch, but surely the main objective was to get points and move clear of villa in the league?

  • 125 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Ibiza, its pointless, mate. Catchy won’t rest until pardew is sacked and we end up in the fizzy league as a result. He can’t see past his blind hatred of last years manager of the year. I actually think he needs therapy

  • 126 Brutooon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    1) Cisse – apart from the goal, he done NOTHING

    2) Jonas – “hard-working” but no end product. Sissoko assist in just 20 mins, Jonas assist once in 30 games

    3) Gouffron did ok – for a debutant

  • 127 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    Pards didn’t have more options last night?????

    Apart from Sissoko who can play anywhere across the middle…
    Or Gouffran who can play wide left / right / no.10 or up top…
    Or Yanga who can play anywhere across the back 4 or CDM…

    We have players all across the pitch who can play a number of positions but that’s still not enough for you??

    “Gouffran didn’t have a good game…” – you obviously base that on the fact he didn’t score…which is so shortsighted its unreal.

    Christ man – I can’t discuss this with you.

  • 128 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    Mark….Look, to some extent I get his frustration with Pardew, he is not the greatest manager in the world, however, it’s the assumptions that drive me up the wall. For instance, it’s all down to Pardews half time talk?!? Based on what? Guesswork?

    Yeah, that’s the best way to go. Some perspective could go along way with a few posters on here. I didn’t bother to read last nights comments, I imagine it was a war zone on here last night despite getting our first away win of the season. Did I mention people need to gain some perspective? :)

  • 129 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    catchy

    I do worry for you….glad you saw the good stuff too. If you only saw the bad things supporting this club could send you to an early grave haha.

    I think it will take time to change us around. We played good football in the first half which does show we can and will do it.

    I get what you mean about the negatives though…I just think currently the points are whats crucial, and whilst performances help get points, the result is key at this moment in time.

  • 130 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:51 AM

    @Santon

    I don’t understand why your brining up other game? at the start of my post i said to give him credit on yesterday performance, not on any others, your just using my post to justify another rant by yourself on why Pardew is shit

    Im not fully pro Pardew, he’s too cautious and at times negative for me and some games such as the Reading game were probably lost due to him, whereas games like Man U were lost due to lack of ability on the players behalf.

  • 131 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:51 AM

    Catchy

    Could the 2nd half performance not be down to the players. Conceding that early goal and thinking “oh no, hear we go again” and then sitting back themselves?

    Surely the way we started the first half shows Pardew has said the right thing to the players before the game? If you take the assumption that the 2nd half was because he said the wrong things?

  • 132 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    Bru. Can’t argue with that. Still think we should stick with Cisse. That goal should help his confidence, and he should know now, with cabs back in form and sissoko being some kind of magical ball playing football monster, he can make his runs through the middle and expect the ball.

    Jonas, great servant over the last few years, but should be used sparingly to see games out now.

    Goofy, not the finnished article, but was keen, looks skillful, and seems to mostly make the right decisions.

  • 133 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    i have not got a lot of time,,

    meetings :(

    but what i will say is,, if you look at the fixtures coming up,, other teams form , villa was our best shot of going out there and making a statment,, we got 3 points,, great, fantastic,, thats the only plus,, cos once again we rolled over in the second half and let them play,,

    anita or perch ? anita sits, anita can spot a pass,, anita can tackle, perch can tackle,, you feild your best team

    MYM or taylor, i would have chosen Taylor too. but i would not have brought MYM on as a DMC

    as for what he says at half time,, god only knows,, maybe sit tight, but its his defensive subs that kill the second half,, why not just go for it,,

    jonas was hopless full stop, defence or attack,,

  • 134 Scouse_geordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    we were comfortable first half because they had no outlet other than betenke. Once they brought on Gabby and wiesman it gave them width and pace, which pulled our full backs wide and created space in the middle. From the min the second half started, they had the impetus, they had the drive.

    We were always gonna struggle to get hold of the game after that, especially after reading.so the changes Pardew did made sense. sissoko and gouff were never lasting a full game at that tempo, and mbiwa had played dm lots of times.anita was allowed to chase in the middle as they were only only playing long balls and then Ameobi could sit and Marshall benteke.

    As for cisse, when he was moved to the right we weren’t looking to score.it was to try and keep some shape, and to stop their left back doubling up on debuchy with Gabby, after all pardew can only make 3 changes and who else could he move wide….Ameobi?

    Thus isn’t football manager and games have momentum and sometimes you have to accept that and try to absorb it.at the end if the day we only conceded through a penalty and we got all 3 points, far a I’m concerned, job well done.

  • 135 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    Torq
    Morning mate, you were spot on with goofy n sissoko what a debut for them lads! They were fantastic and based on goofy’s work rate if we were to sign a winger cisse would seriously have to up his work rate to keep his spot!

    On the match
    What a 1st half eh! We were fantastic up there with manure at SJP last season
    But we need to get out of the mentality that 2-0 up at HT means its in the bag! Think we all knew that villa were going to come at us hard but we stopped doing the simple stuff and against a better team that could of cost us, but we got the points thats all that matters!
    I also felt taylor had a poor game, i cant inderstand the praise tbh, benteke had his number the whole 2nd half he beat him to everything on the deck and in the air and on numerous occassions tayls mis read the ball or the bounce and it was past him on too many occassions, saturday he’s got ba and on that showing he’ll get slaughtered sorry but has to mbiwa for me!

    Any more news on PEA mate??

  • 136 Spotlight Kid // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    Catchy, hang on in there. There is a curious blindness on this blog to Pardew’s all too obvious shortcomings. If the Ameobi substitution last night was not clear evidence of a man not fit to be in charge then I don’t know what is. We conceded one, could easily have been two when Zog rattled the post and without Krul’s form we would have lost.

    All this despite a French foreign legion to pick from…

  • 137 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    Transfer Sage

    may be it is the players,, but its pardews job to tell them to get up the pitch,,

    his sub said, shola up front, cisse right wing,, was was that about?? what do we get from cisse on the wing?

    shola was jumping for flick ons,, and no one there,, so why the long ball??

    im sure pardew could see this too.. it just gave villa the ball back

  • 138 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    Ibiza – I was online last night…

    It was a great atmosphere until the penalty was conceeded…

    Then it lit up with new names and the usual suspects bringing the blog down.

    On example…

    “Sissoko looks inspired further forward!!”

    (After villa scored…)

    “Sissoko FFS !!!! Pards get him back as defensive mid !! He’s all over the place!!”

    Coming from the same poster…no names mentioned (or probably needed!!) :-)

  • 139 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    Fray

    I think that is a good comment on pardew…”too cautious at times”.

    When did we play best last season? the run of our last 10 games (especially those 6 wins in a row).

    We went into those last 10 a bit of champs league but probably safe in top 7…so what did we do…attacked the whole game and controlled matches as we had no pressure.

    Then when it go near the end and we had a realistic chance of champions league, and therefore added pressure, we started to be cautious again and try to eek out wins and it didn’t work as well.

    Pardew is a good manager and can set the team up very well to exploit the strengths of our side but he just needs to have more confidence in his players, which is difficult this year as so many have been below par.

  • 140 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    @Catchy

    Why not bring MYM as a DMC? im not saying i know whether it was a good decision or not but how could you possibly know? you probably know little about the player tbh

  • 141 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    Ibiza, yes, I can also see and even share some frustration of the negativity of our team in the second half. But sometimes it has to be the players to blame. I saw pardew change his plan after the penalty knocked us for six, and shola came on to try and hold things up. It was actually the players who failed to respond to the change properly. Anita was a good sub, he calmed things a little, but again he didn’t get much help, and as a result, we couldn’t keep the ball. Perspective is a good word. Should we make ‘perspective’ the word of the day?

  • 142 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Torq….Surely not? :) So, we only have another 24 hours to pick your brains and force some ITK out of you….any noises about late transfer activity or does it appear we’re done and dusted now?

  • 143 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    catchy

    The shola sub made sense for me, he usually (although he didn’t last night) hold the ball well, draws fouls and helps run the clock down, as well as being decent defending set pieces.

    It made sense to get him on but he had a poor game, you cannot foresee that.

    I think that moving cisse to the right wasn’t great, rather him stay up top with shola to occupy there team and counter, and if you wanted a player on the right bring cisse off for obertan.

    But overall the result was there and the positive outweight the negatives for me.

  • 144 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    fray bentos

    i dont, but when we signed the guy as a CB,, i see him as a CB,

    when pardew got to our club, jonas was a left winger that ran at players, now he dont know what he is,,

    play players in the best positions,, i know that works

  • 145 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    Mark….I’m not sure many understand what it means :) I don’t really hold any blame against Pardew for last night, I think he did a decent job overall. We conceded a penalty and confidence dropped. There is only so much the manager can do, he needs to build confidence and it will happen slowly.

  • 146 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    Catchy – Defensive subs??? Perch for ameobi…

    There are no words…

    TADS – Sissoko and Gouffran the real deal right mate?? Maybe I should see if GC needs an assistant!! Haha

    No more news on PEA mate but I’m in England until Friday so feel kind of out of the loop. However I’m calling my colleague at St. Ettienne today for a Conference call (…and I need to know the latest!)

    Signing the young 16yr old lad Kevin Mbabu is a great coup also. Highly rated in Switzerland and wanted by a host of top clubs including the manchesters, juventus and Bilbao.

  • 147 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Transfer Sage

    shola can only work as a target man for flick ons,, i think he has always gave more fouls than he gets,,

    so putting him on with no one in front of him is just madness,,

  • 148 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    TorqToon

    yes

    where did cisse play after the sub?

    it wasnt like pardew went for it,, your mad

  • 149 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    @Catchy

    How do you know he can’t play DM aswell? he supposedly has all the right attributes

    Your just trying to find any tiny thing to have a go at Pardew about, its a bit sad to be honest

    Your well within your right to criticize Pardew for this season for many reasons, so why bother nitpicking over that sort of thing, you truly are a broken record

  • 150 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    Ibiza – As if stands – their has been plenty of activity with regards PEA and I know our interest was real and solid. If we want him – I believe we could get him this window but would cost around €12mil which is elevated slightly from true value.

    I’m hopefully finding out more today…

  • 151 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    Ibizatoon

    pardew has slowly killed the team lmao,, build them up,, yeh right

  • 152 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Torq…Cheers mate. I’m not expecting anything tbh, just wanted to know if I’m allowed a life or should I be glued to SSN for the next day.

  • 153 Lilongwe Geordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Okay, lots of conflicting views on the game last night. First half, we were excellent. Play like that and we will be fine.

    Second half, I can see the argument from the anti Pardew side, what did he say, how did we come out so poorly in the second half etc. But people seem to forget there are 2 managers at work. How was Pardew to know that Lambert would make those changes? That changed the game, not Pardews instructions. Lambert was brave and made the changes, that put us on the back foot from the off in the 2nd half. They got their goal, and from then on in it is a case of our fragile confidence following on from a very poor run.

    On the substitutions, I’m not sure what people were hoping for? We did what was needed to see the game out, just.

    3 points, lets enjoy them, it wasn’t vintage, but most football isn’t.

  • 154 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Catchy – IM mad?!! Ok mate…!

    Just how many times have you seen Yanga play ? Just out of interest??

    I’ve answered you with regards Cisse so don’t need to go over it again…you speak like he was moved back to centre half!!

  • 155 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    I saw pardew cotinually telling his players to push up. They failed to do so. Scared? Maybe. Short of confidence? Definitely. But clearly, on thosegrounds you have to lay blame at the players feet. If that hard fought win inspires a bit more confidence with the players in themselves, and inspires pardew to trust them a bit more, then we can only get better. Sacking the manager now would be insane!

  • 156 Marzy // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    Good morning! Reflecting on last nights game and I am so happy for the 3 points especially as we have two very tough games coming up & would love to take at least 2 points from them! any more than that is a brucey bonus!!
    My concerns are our 2nd half performances as it seems all this season we play well for one half & struggle the next ” I am no tactician” but we allow ourselves to be battered from the off & then decide to change things around normally in the 70th minute, but in that time the opposition has already got there teeth into us & its that steam rolling affect that we cant cope with?, why we cant encourage them to keep the ball even if that’s the back 4 & GK playing it between themselves for a few minutes to frustrate the hell out of teams & get them tired earlier on!, it just looks like we hoof it up to allow the on-going pressure to come back on to us! ” we have players now more then ever to keep the ball”. Lastly I agree to bring a forward on who can keep the ball & hold play up but never so that again in Shola & that’s frustrating! 1st line of defence is the forward line!, “granted he did well in our own box but that pattern will always repeat itself if were not defending in our forward position’s”
    Rant over! like I say great 3 points and hopefully we will build from that this weekend!.

  • 157 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    fray bentos

    you lot are more of a broken record than me,, oh look we have turned a corner,, wow we looked great,,

    pardew is king,, every week you have backed him,, nearly every week he has failed,,,

    who is more right?

  • 158 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    Maybe just check the app on your mobile mate than sit in front of the tele…! :-)

    Not overly hopeful of more players in…but as we know, you never can tell.

    And catchy….PLEEEEEASSE go you your meetings!!!

  • 159 lou9brasil // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    Just out of interest….. Anyone know how Barnetta has been getting on in that hotel room, he’s been locked in there for a while now his room service bill must be huge ;-)

  • 160 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    @Markaccus

    Here here!!

  • 161 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    Sage
    I agree the shola sub made sense, especially with villas shaky back line, but not for perch tbh i would of taken jonas off, i know that would take away a bit of width but villa targeted jonas after that disgraceful challenge and think he’d lost his head a bit
    Did question perchy starting, but as always he show he’s an absolute warrior when he plays

  • 162 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    catchy

    Well ameobi has done alright i think in terms of shutting games out, when playing well he keeps the ball well and draws fouls (i agree he can frustrate when conceding fouls though and he isnt a 90min player). but i think he does ok for 20 mins…we dont really have many other options for those last few mins.

    I’d like adam campbell but I dont think its a good idea to bring him into a team scrapping at the bottom of the league to make his debut.

  • 163 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    @Catchy

    “you lot are more of a broken record than me”

    Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahhahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhah

    You obviously don’t read many of my posts, i don’t dislike or like Pardew, he has pro’s and con’s, i don’t want him sacked now but if we could attract a better manager in the future i would but im willing to pass judgement later

  • 164 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    TorqToon

    you might awell put cisse on the bench as put on the wing,,

    he is a finisher, and that is it,, !!!!!!

  • 165 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    torq

    When is your conference call….dont want to miss the news (if there is any) on PEA.

    tads

    Yeh I could go for that i suppose, jonas wasn’t doing a lot and he wasn’t seeing the game clearly.

  • 166 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Catchy….So they looked like a killed team at KO then,,,,, Yeah right

  • 167 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Torq
    Fingers crossed then mate but realistically if we havent moved on him bu tonight i cant see it happening, still we’ve had a cracking window!!
    When did we sign the youngun? Remember hearing about intrest but nothing more

  • 168 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    Just because yanga came on for a DM, doesn’t mean he played there! He was never more that 20 yards from our own goal! We were playing 5 at the back from that point. I also read on here somewhere (probably from torque) that yanga can play DM, and has been useful there.

  • 169 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Catchy….See, there is where you are wrong. Most have said that they don’t think Pardew is great, but decent enough. We have also said we hope that the team has turned a corner and recognise it wont all get better over night or in one game.

    I would say we’re actually more neutral that anything.

  • 170 danuneek // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Im not defending pardew because some of his decisions are crazy at times… But doesnt anyone realise the reason he brought strolla on, dropped sissoko deeper and kept jonas was a reaction to their tactics. They came out second half with direct hoof ball and aggressive tactics. It was crucial to get a bit of height in there to combat that threat. As for jonas we all know he offers a lot of energy, perhaps not last night but usually. So i can forgive pardew for the subs he made. What i cant understand is why were just hoofing it back to them rather than keeping the ball. But as pards said after the game, our players were a little nervous which is understandable. I watched enough in that first half to suggest we are staying up. Lets get to that 41 points as soon as possible and then try salvage our season with a run in the europa. Im guessing all our new players are cuptied?

  • 171 fray bentos // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    @Danuneek

    Good post, its s shame many posters on here ball watch and can’t analyse football properly

  • 172 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Catchy are you ok?!! I mean seriously…?!

    CISSE WASN’T PUT ON A WING!!!!!!!!!!!

    Christ man you are lee frustrating than the Makems that come on this blog!!!

    Need coffee….

  • 173 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Alot of paper talk about De Jong this morning but conflicting about now or summer

  • 174 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Team v Chelskiov. I like to call this the 5-5 formation because you have 5 defenders essentially, and 5 more advanced players:

    ———Krul
    Deb–colo–stayl–sant
    ———yanga
    —-sissoko—cabaye
    Goofy—cisse—marv

    Bench (don’t need willo cos yanga is a cb and perch can fill in there)
    Perch
    Anita
    Haidara
    Obert
    Jonas
    Shameobi
    Harper

  • 175 Wandering Geordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Lambert has been sacked according to reports

  • 176 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Got to laugh at some if the stuff written on here. Everyone who travelled last night said Pards got the team selection right, and also got the subs right.

    There was still a slight doubt over Cabaye and Taylor being able to finish the game, but they both need to be in the team, so In worst case scenario we had Anita and Mapou to cover. We had balance, ideas, and energy. Perch did the job of holding perfectly, allowing the others to push on. Negative changes? Shola for Perch? Sissoko went into DM and when he ad nothing left it was a like for like as Mapou has played there before.

    The blind hatred for Pards is ridiculous. This isn’t FIFA on your x boxes for f***s sake. And did you think Villa would just roll over? The penalty was a shocker and it gave them and their fans a lift. But we rolled our sleeves up and it was an education for the new boys. They passed with flying colours. Every player showed heart, passion and guts. It was a massive win and the boys showed at the end what it meant, and the fans were amazing.

    Finally, the people there last night couldn’t fault the manager and team, and that opinion is far better than some knacker watching a dodgy stream and having a pop.

    Well done to the boys last night, there was HUGE pressure and they did it.

  • 177 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Catchy
    I dont think cisse was put on the wing mate he seems to go missing when were under it

  • 178 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    TS – It will be around 3pm French time to fit in with the club so around 2pm UK time. Will post what I can get get out of the club,

    TADS – I agree. It’s movement today – or no further business.

    On Mbabu – I hear it was all wrapped up on Monday?! But not sure if the official confirmation has made it yet. Man citeh were taking about a late attempt but I think he is ours now for the development squad.

  • 179 outsidethebox // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    look at the positives from last night instead of the negatives
    krull has to be one of the best in league
    debuchy and santon good and will only get better
    collo and mbai will be a great cb pairing
    with cab benny sissoko marv tiote and anita we have enough of a midfield to match any team …cisse and goofy are good strikers…what is needed is time and organisation..
    could it be we play with debuchy and santon as wing backs taylor collo and mbai in a back 5 …perm any 4 from midfield and cisse up front by himself …the players are there …get the pattern sorted and organised..

  • 180 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    @Dannueek

    From what some poster said not that long ago Sissoko and Haidara can play in Europa Gouffran is cup tied

    and they can only pick one out of Debuchy or Mbiwa as they have played Champions League

    Would probably pick Mbiwa although this depends on how serious Pardew will take the Europa a lot will hinder on the next 2 games in the league which are Chelsea at Home and Spurs Away

    I honestly believe we will beat Chelsea as they are struggling just now and the atmosphere because Ba is returning could inspire our team for a victory plus Chelsea dont play the way Villa did against us in that 2nd half that was downright nasty at times plus Chelsea at the back are there for the taking

    Spurs away will be tricky but if we get a win on Saturday it could give us confidence to go there and give them a game

    So if we got a decent points total then I would expect us to go for Europa but if not he will play a weakened team because we have Southampton at home after Metalist

  • 181 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    @fray bentos and danuneek… Do you two realise that being so level headed and sensible could have you removed from this blog?! Seriously its good to see. The negative stuff gets so frustrating at times.

  • 182 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    torq

    thanks. hows your french by the way? fluent? I want to learn a language and figured that was as good as any.

  • 183 dominnit // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Rumours in Daily Mail that Newcastle have bid £9M for Siem De Jong, what do people think?

  • 184 hdavid23 // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    according to SSN, we are looking at bringing in Siem de Jong before the deadline

  • 185 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    what were peoples views on the penalty last night?

    I think it was clumsy by debuchy and rightly given, although agbonlahor made a meal of it by throwing his arms up as he went down.

    Not a one I blame the ref for giving as it just looks clumsy.

  • 186 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    siem de jong would be an amazing signing….would love to get him signed up.

    Would still want a wide player though as we havent got that many good options out wide.

    In the CAM role we have cabaye who is good, sissoko did it well last night and also ben arfa can play there.

    Siem would be great for us but not sure if he is the priority….although I will never complain at us signing quality…especially as we need more goals.

  • 187 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    @TADS. I think you’re spot on with cisse going missing when the pressure is on. He’s probably a classic text book example of a confidence player. This is why we need a good hard working back-up striker to replace him when things get tight. Ideally one who can play alongside him, too.

  • 188 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Sage – It’s not bad. Wouldn’t go as far as you say it’s fluent but I can hold my own in French, German and Spanish. It probs sounds odd though with a slight Geordie twang in the mix! Ha

    On the pen – yeah letter of the law states it was probably a pen – more clumsy than anything else – but agbonlahor made the very most of it with a swan dive to full effect!

  • 189 Oldgit1 // Jan 30, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    It’s about time some of the bloggers on here understand what’s Jonas role is now, he is no longer a flying winger, his role is that of a CD with the purpose of breaking down the opposition , becoming a nuisance, and irritate them which he did superbly last night. He was so effective last night, hence the way he was targeted and fouled by the Aston villa players. This in it self showed how good he was. This guy was everywhere on the field left , right, and helping in defence, he set up the second goal, albeit a bit lucky, but also made a goal line clearance. This guy was immense and did not deserve all the crap that was written on this blog. Give Jonas some credit, he wears the nufc top with pride and takes his vise captains role seriously. Now leave this nufc legend alone and surpport him. He gave it his all last night and can see why AP rates him.

  • 190 Phoenix // Jan 30, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Strikes me that a lot of people don’t realise there are two teams playing on a pitch,as for all this”what does he say to them at halftime” ,who knows,but whatever he said before the game started worked.as for the people saying “if ever a case of game of two halves”football has always had two halves,we won first half 2-0,lost 1,0 in the second,won 2-1 on the night.3 points in the bag move onto the next game

  • 191 LooneyToon41 // Jan 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Big shout out to @104. MUND30, @176 SIRTOONGOSPEL and others too. Finally some sense.

    The pressure of this game was ENORMOUS! and the team and manager passed the test with heart, fight, talent and bucket loads of team spirit. This game was massive for Villa.. and we won!

    Some of the ignorant negativity on here is incredible.

    Quick note on D.Bent who by all accounts is paid more than any player at NUFC….. what an overpaid Diva. £24m ! And Villa fans wonder why Lerner is cost cutting…

  • 192 Mund30 // Jan 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    @ Catchy are you a mackem in disguise or what???

    You talk about Mbiwa bein bought as a CB which is true for the long run but he is a very versatile player who can play all across the back 4 plus he can play in DEF MID which ive already said before he did on many occasions for Montepellier.

    You are a very negative guy and seem pretty clueless to me so carry on the hating why the rest of us are celebrating.

  • 193 Ian Toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    sirtoon – Bang on. As you say the toon army were 100% behind Pardew and the lads before, during and after the game. Our support never wavered particularly during a nervous second half. . The ecstatic feeling at finally seeing an away victory made it all worthwhile. I have stopped reading comments on match days because you could easily mistake it for the opposition site. The reality is that we won and secured 3 points. The team were clearly well prepared and the tactics worked to counter Villa’s 3 at the back and wing backs with Jonas and Gouffran pushing on to restrict their forward movement. Playing Sissoko effectively in the hole behind Cisse worked a treat for the first goal but let’s not forget Jonas involvement in Cabaye’s sublime
    finish for the second. Far to many criticise Jonas who did the ugly very well- you need balance in the side. Going forward he will doubtless not be playing as often but he did a good second half spoiling job when it was needed. Villa second half had nothing to lose and threw everything at us with Tim Krul winning my man of the match award. Their long ball tactics showed a lack of imagination. Tackles were flying in and it was a surprise that nobody was sent off- Mike Dean was shocking particularly over allowing the rough treatment on Jonas to go relatively unpunished. Santon first half and Debuchy throughout defended and attacked well. Taylor had an unspectacular game easing himself back .
    Krul 8
    Debuchy 7
    Saylor 6
    Coloccini. 6
    Santon. 6
    Perch 6. ( Shola 5)
    Cabaye. 7
    Gouffran 6. ( Anita 6)
    Sissoko. 7. ( Yanga 6 )
    Jonas. 6
    Cisse. 7

  • 194 Mund30 // Jan 30, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    @LooneyToon
    Hooooooah mate hooah. I just dont get some people i really dont. If we played bad the next 3 games but managed to win there would still be fans giving negative comments and talking crap. But the only thing thats important now is getting to safety nothing else matters but that. Maybe we could go on a good run and get top 10, that would be great but all im focusing on now is making sure we are in this league come May. Then i think next year will be a strong year for us, the year that should of been this year but mistakes on recruitment having faith in our fringe players and youngsters, who just havent stepped up, all account for us being were we arre right now. So all i hope for is safety and a possible strong finish then assault the league next year with a few more signings in the summer. And to be honest i think we could have a top top team come August better than last year and for many years.

  • 195 nuttyward // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    i would put a bid in for nzogbia for LW role

  • 196 nastynorm // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    santon03 wot a load of crap jonas is finished hes wel pasd it done nowt 4 2yrs or more he cant pass,cant tackle,cant shoot weak as water falls ova when any1 goes near him so wot the hell is it that u & pardew think he has cos i wud like 2 no his days r numbered




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