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Pardew’s Record In First 100 Games – Mediocre At Best

11:12 am, Wednesday, January 30th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 413 Comments

Alan Pardew is still under pressure at Newcastle, and he now has to get Newcastle away from the relegation zone, and it was interesting that owner Mike Ashley was there to see some of the four French players he signed last week – all in a short four days.

Newcastle United's manager Alan Pardew

Alan Pardew won 37 of first 100 games at Newcastle

Last night was Alan Pardew’s 10th game in charge of Newcastle, since he took over from Chris Hughton in December of 2010, and his record is mediocre at best having won 37, lost 36 and drew the other 27 games.

Alan was asked about the 100 games he has managed Newcastle United;

“Ninety to 100 wasn’t particularly comfortable.” “I enjoyed the first 80, and the 100th one was nice.” “It’s been tough on myself.” “I take it to heart when we don’t win – I’m a winner.” “We had a nice mood in the hotel, and even John Carver was smiling at the end.”

Alan Pardew has a 37% win rate in his first 100 games, and in the 70 games Chris Hughton managed at Newcastle – his record was won 39, lost 14 and drew the other 17 – so Chris’ win rate was 56% – but of course around 46 of those games were in the Championship – so it’s hard to judge.

In contrast Bobby Robson managed Newcastle for 255 games and won 119 and lost 72 for a win rate of 46.7%,  and Kevin Keegan managed Newcastle for 273 games in two spells as manager, and won 144 and lost 71 and his win average was 52.7%.

But we want Alan Pardew to be successful at Newcastle – because that means Newcastle will be successful – and if the first half last night is anything to go by – Pardew will be able to revive Newcastle with the five new players Mike Ashley brought into the club this month.

And Newcastle will not be signing 19 year-old Bastia forward Florian Thauvin before Thursday night, since he signed on at Lille yesterday.

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413 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Wayayman // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    “even John Carver was smiling at the end” LOL!

  • 2 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Wonder what hughtons win % was during his time in charge of us in the prem league.

  • 3 JackButler // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Pardew now has nowhere to hide as we have most of our players back playing along with some quality additions, so we need results and we need to get away from the bottom of the league.

    I still think he will be gone come the summer. If Ashley has ambition for the club then we need a manager that can realise that ambition and who can get the most out of our players

  • 4 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Just hope we kick on from here ! Realistically finishing above the scum now is my goal for the side as I think we have more than enough to avoid the drop …..

  • 5 lucasnufc // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    We still need another striker… Cisse are only (decent) out and out. What if he gets injured?

  • 6 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    @JB can’t see Ashley giving Pards the boot with an 8 year contract and all that …. He has given him the firepower now so let’s wait and see ! Would be like admitting he was wrong if he fired Pards and not sure Ashley likes to be wrong – time will tell !

  • 7 Phatoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    TS – Hughton’s 16 games were 31.3% Win Per

  • 8 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    I think Mediocre at best is a bit harsh to be honest

    Bobby Robson and Keegan never had the amount of injuries to deal with and budget constraints that Pardew has had to deal with

  • 9 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    I would take Capoue personally – if he goes to QPR it will be because they bid ridiculous money. Can’t blame the bloke for demanding sky high wages.

    Remy however can disappear for all I care. He agreed terms to come to us until floppy shoved more money under his nose, never showed up at SJP for the tour, he can rot in the championship for all care – although he won’t hang around of they go down.

  • 10 SuperShearer // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    @Blaydon-Toon while I think you’re right the word on the grape-vine is Ashely would only have to pay AP one year’s worth of compensation should he fire him. He won’t be going anywhere this season but by Jan next year if we’re not top half I think Ashley will rethink AP’s position at the club.

  • 11 thepict // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Last night’s performance at Villa Park was absolutely huge. Maybe, just maybe folk will get behind the players and manager and stop being so negative. Onwards and upwards.

  • 12 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    It’s important to put some perspective in this article Ed.

    On the very best managers have win percentages over 50%. David Moyes has 42% at Everton, Harry Redknapp has 40% throughout his career, and Pardew has 43% over his entire career.

  • 13 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Just to balance it out a bit…

    Hoots PL win record with us at Newcastle before being fired was just under 30%.

    I really liked him, but that season in the championship which was great, does flatter his record with us.

  • 14 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Seems I took too long to type that :)

  • 15 JackButler // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Blaydon-Toon

    the 8 year contract means nothing as he only gets a years compensation if sacked.

    By the fact that Ashley is now hands on with the club tells me that he wants more than what he’s getting. If he has real ambition then Pardew is not the man for the job, yes he’s done well at times but if we want Champions League football in our future then we need a change come the summer

  • 16 achtoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    transfersage Houghton manged newcastle 23 time in the premiership and won 5

  • 17 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Btw…I got my figures from Wor Ed ;)

    http://www.nufcblog.com/2011/04/24/chris-hughton-and-alan-pardew-league-records-very-similar/

    Unless my math is off, I make it out at just under 30%

  • 18 derekm // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    the whole point of an 8 year deal was to give the club continuity for the first time in decades – what was fergusons first 100 games ratio? Was’nt he on the verge of the bullet?

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    phatoon

    cheers….i have just been working it out haha

    It is 5 wins, 7 losses and 4 draws….not great but solid on our return to the league

    pardews record for the rest of that season was 6 wins, 7 losses, 9 draws which win % of 27.2%

    Pardew has a better loss % though 31.8% to hughtons 43%

  • 20 true toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    If we don’t sack Pardew at the end of the season and replace him for next seaso, we will be in a relegation fight again. His tactics has been shocking for most of the season. AP is a top 10 manager at best.

    I say replace him with someone like Di matteo , Benitez or even Redknapp if NUFC wants to go English but definately AP needs to be replace !!

  • 21 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    achtoon

    I’m just counting the time we came back up and he was permanent manager and not just standing in.

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    I think, although its difficult to forget whats happened before, that we should judge pardew at the end of the season.

    See if he gets the new lads playing some good stuff and see what he can do with a proper team and squad.

    If the football is still shocking and sloppy then possibly look to replace him, if there are signs things improve then give him another year.

    I dont expect miracle and world class form but I think we need to continue to improve our play, even more than we have done of late, and make sure we get a few good 90min and not just 45.

  • 23 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    How about a possible points % instead?

    ————P—Max Points—Got—-%

    Pardew–100–300—138—-46%
    Hoots—-17—-51—-19—–37.25%

  • 24 Dax Trajero // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    I think a sense of perspective would be prudent here. When looking at a stat like that, you have to take into account what the manager inherited when he began the job. In Alan’s case, we’d been relegated, players had deserted us (good riddance to most) and Chris Hughton had performed miracles getting us promoted. Finally Andy Carroll had been sold in the January transfer window, leaving us with not a lot. It wasn’t a much of a foundation to build from, was it ?

    I think you can judge a manager on the team he builds, and I’d suggest it’s only now looking through the first team that you can safely say it’s now Pardew’s team.

    The time to judge him is when the new lads have settled in and we kick off the next season. Otherwise we as fans, fall into the same trap we’ve done in the past, prematurely demanding the manager be sacked.

    The new lads look great. Sissoko looks a beast, and had the vision to pick out Cisse with a great pass.

    Onwards and upwards!

  • 25 ToonBano // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Many people forget the fact that Pardew only won 3 out of the last 17 games of the season when he took over from Hughton. Last season was immense. He then carried on his poor record this season.

    I am not gonna start bashing AP again but this record is of no surprise to me and others whatsoever. One season doesn’t make a manager, just like it doesn’t make a player.

    He still has a lot to prove

  • 26 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Dax….You win a prize for using the word of the day! Perspective everyone!

  • 27 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Bano…He certainly still does have a lot to prove and that will never end. Every player and manager needs to keep proving their worth.

    At the same time, one bad half season doesn’t make the manager. All most of us are asking is for some patience and to give him a fair chance, he’s neither excellent nor terrible, surely that’s what pretty much every stat we can use shows us.

  • 28 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Do we know when HBA is back what with Marveaux being injured ? . Isn’t he supposed to be fit for Chelsea.

  • 29 JackButler // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Big Pappa Cissé

    HBA said be back 1/2 week of next month and Marv is our for three weeks :(

  • 30 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Agee that Pards is not in the top class manager bracket and makes some very strange decisions! I understand that he will only be paid a year if he does go but given the fact he has been given such a long contract by ” super Mike” :-) it would still reflect badly on him should he fire his cockney pal ! If we start off next season with a few new additions I really do think we will push for a top 6 finish ! I was a realistic fan this year and said top ten as I did think we over achieved when we finished 5 th and had some luck with injuries which we have not had this season !

  • 31 ballerfan2 // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Until the last 10 games Pards win record was 39%. Not too shabby. What this blog and the replies does tell me though that too many of us have too much time on our hands. Lol

  • 32 Blaydon-Toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Said late last night we will have some side once HBA is fit and I reckon we could dish out a few big wins hopefully that shite mob down the road will get a hiding :-)

  • 33 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Bano
    Dont forget though just after he took over from hoots we sold our top scorer and had shola and best for tge rest of the season, hardly the deadliest strike force in the league!!

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    We dont spend big so steady improvement is all we can demand.

    Hopefully we can add another player who will offer goals whether its PEA, rvw, siem de jong, etc.

    I think pardew will manage to turn this around and build on some of the good play we have had in recent weeks.

  • 35 Bambams // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    been saying for ages we need a coach that can coach attacking fluent football. Pards is one dimentional and panics…..
    Hopefully with pace now in the team he may change his tactics.
    How good was sissoko

  • 36 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    I can’t see him being sacked, he’s perfect for Ashley.
    I have no confidence in him.

    If all the squad is fit even Pardew will find it hard to lose.
    We should finish 7th – 10th most seasons.
    With the odd shot at the CL if everything goes our way.

    He’s far too defensive for a Newcastle manager.
    He’s become the new Big Sam.

  • 37 Raffo // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    You can dress stats up how you like.

    I think Pards now has the team and squad to make a go of it and prove to us what he is capable of. Providing he keeps the squad together during the summer, or replces our blue chip guys if they go then give him another season.

    TORQ – Do you think theres any chance of any more bodies coming in? Greedy maybe but I just feel we need that one more striker to provide competition to Cisse, nevermind cover

  • 38 danuneek // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    How long is Benny out for… another 3 weeks was it? Could have done with him on Saturday.

    VS CHELSEA

    ————————-Krul————————–
    Debuchy——-Taylor——Colo———Santon
    —————Perch———-Cabaye————–
    –Anita————-Sissoko————Gourfran
    ———————–Cisse————————-

  • 39 JackButler // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    What I don’t get with Pardew is that in so many games we have looked very, very good in the first half but then come back out and sit back far too often and is substitution have a negative effect on the side as he seems things for the sake of changing them.

    His position as manager will depend on the ambition of the owner

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    bambams

    I think we need to get a good coach in to work with pardew. Somebody in carvers role like man utd did with carlos quiroz or like barca did with tito vilenova working with pep.

    We need a guy who can teach pardew the tricks of the trade if you will on the continental style.

  • 41 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Also can everyone stop saying Di Matteo is a great manager?!?!

    He got sacked at West Brom having a similar team to ours and they were getting cuffed every week when he got the chop

    Was so flukey at Chelsea to win the champs league and then got found out to be tactically naive the following season considering the money that they spent

    No better than Pardew

  • 42 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Well done Ed a nice catchybano magnet to keep the controversy going.

  • 43 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Tsunki…How you doing? Unpacked your belongings yet or are you still living out of your suitcase?

  • 44 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    People can use these stats in any way they want to prove whatever it is they want to prove, simply by picking out the parts that suit their argument. That’s the trouble with stats. If you look across the board, its as close to a 50-50 record as you can get. So mediocre at best = mediocre at worst! Its niether very good or very bad. It proves he is not our best manager, nor our worst. Surely it proves he should be given until the end of the season? 15 games including last nights, pardews approx record of winning 1 in 3, drawing 1 in 3 and losing 1 in 3. Win 5, draw 5, lose 5. 20 points. We were on 21 before last night. This = 41 points, which this year would see us safe I think. Given that this is his record after a difficult start to the season, I think we might scrape a few extra points now that he has a half decent squad to chose from compared to what he had in oct-nov-dec.

  • 45 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Santon…I agree, don’t think DiMatteo is anything special at all. Okay, but not great as some make out.

  • 46 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    markaccus

    Thats the danger of stats…you need to use a comprehensive and exhaustive list of them to see the full picture.

    Its like saying somebody is a good striker cause he has scored 20 goals. You need to know how many games, how many good chances he had, shooting accuracy, level of opposition, etc etc and even then you cant really take into account mistakes by opposition, form of team, etc

  • 47 BigKirky // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Not that I want to warrant speaking of it for long, but wanted to mention that I use the word Beast fairly frequently, like Santon said.

    My pal lives in Glasgow area and is a toon fan and we went with his mate who is a Rangers fan to the Rangers pre-season game a few years ago and his mate said straight away after the game “mind that Andy Carroll is a beast!!” “yes we know I said, Big Dunc mkII in the air”.

    Nothing wrong with it.

    Anyway, can De Jong play a few positions? Or mainly central attacking behind the front man?

  • 48 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    If anyone expects us to roll over chelsea without Hazard and with our troupe of French internationals then the disappointment is beckoning. This team now needs an established shape so expect more digging in an ground out draws and bare wins interspersed with glimpses of magic. I would like to see Europa being used to shape the PL side, aim for safety this season and use the pre-seaon to get a running start for the next.

    On the sublime moment thing, anyone else like debuchy’s chip over his man down the line, or the step over and run dummy in the penalty area – some time since I have seen that in a Black and white guise ha ha.

  • 49 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    di matteo is not a good manager…he is average.

    He won the champs league by beating barca and byern by just defending and having barca miss sitters and a pen.

    Whilst he organises a defence ok he isn’t great at getting much else going.

  • 50 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Finishing 5th last season has been a blessing and a curse. Everyone with common sense knows that we punched miles above our weight, but it has brought a respect from some French players. Sissoko judges on last season and what we can be. He said that himself. The flip side is that people expect 5th again, where as most would have taken another top half finish and a run at a cup. We are still in the Europa and a top half league finish is not completely out if the question.

    I think we will finish well and reel in Fulham, Norwich, and a few others. 6 points from a top half finish. Won’t be easy but we can do it.

    Would give anything for us to turn Chelsea over though.

  • 51 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    @tsunki

    Come on. He’s go a lot wrong.
    Ba – Cisse, playing Jonas, square pegs in round holes to play a rigid formation.

    Sure lots of injuries but he didn’t make the best out of what was available.
    That is his job.
    The league table doesn’t lie. He’s been very poor all season. I dread the 70 min mark. He always gets it wrong.

  • 52 ToonAndy // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Anymore news on Siem De Jong lads??…. Everytime I read his name I get a little tingle in my balls x

  • 53 achtoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    transfersage, why he was manager. thats like saying we don’t count pardews first few months coz it wasn’t his team. Norwich aren’t doing to well at the mo

  • 54 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Iibiza – just finishing a bit of painting before getting the kettle on. :)

    I got told off by TDS last night for being horrid to the negger crowd. :( I suppose I should use the word numpty more sparingly its so damaging isn’t it? Can ruin a mans self-worth.

  • 55 check the toastie // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Danunek – like the team, even Anita sitting with Perch with Cabaye pushed on a little bit more down the right hand side next to his Pal Debuchy, nice fluid formation with lads changing around and causing problems, would give Pardew some credit if he did actually bite the bullet and take Jonas out the firing line, at home think he should give Obertan a chance or at least bring Anita in for Perch or Jonas.

  • 56 JackButler // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Jürgen Klopp, Rudi Garcia, Frank de Boer, Laudrup are type of managers we should be looking at

  • 57 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    aye Santon

    He got ruled by the dressing room at Chelski and is probably more ‘mediocre’ than Pards. Never rated him at Baggies.

    I’d love Pards to be able to have a full season with few injuries with a team of his making. We are very close to that now – need quality LW/ST and maybe another Cabs type creative mid as well as Colo cover if he goes.
    Then – 5th would be the minimum acceptable I think.

  • 58 toonfield // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Does anybody else think we might sneek another player in before tomorrow night or are we all done?
    What about outgoings? Loans out etc…..

  • 59 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    @TSage. Yes. They say there are Lies, Damn lies, and then there are statistics!

  • 60 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Tsunki…Mine’s a coffee then.

    You mean those fine posters who sometimes feel the need to be negative? Not allowed to use a widely accepted abbreviated word you know?

    Surprised you managed to get the ‘umpty word past the wordpress blog police to be fair. Standards are falling fast :)

  • 61 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Hatem btM – I think there have been too many variables this season to truly reflect on Pardew, given what has been at his disposal so far I think its fair to say he needs to show us that, given the manpower he has asked for, he can or can’t shape the team for next season. If he is blundering at the start of next season I will join the chorus to get rid sooner rather than later.

  • 62 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Tsunki @ 54

    We lose – manager gets slagged
    We win – manager gets slagged
    That’s my definition of a numpty.

    I couldn’t believe the negativity on here after the win. You did right.

  • 63 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    achtoon

    Well we had a think squad and inuries at the start of the year. playing people like willo and simmo make it hard to get passing going out from the back.

    Cabaye was carrying an injury then out for 2 months.

    I’m not saying write it off completely as you need to adapt to what you have.

    What I am saying is that now pardew has the squad, not just team, of players to get us playing some good stuff and a strong bench to keep the performance going, now is the time to judge if he can play ‘good football’

    I think if we start playing some good stuff between now and the end of the season and clim the table to around mid table then pardew could be the man to take us forward.

    If we continue with long balls to shola all the time then maybe we should look for an improvement in the manager.

  • 64 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    @BigKirky

    You’re right a lot of my Scottish friends use the word “beast” to describe players. Certainly no racist. Means a big and aggressive animal. We can call people animals?
    But strangely not monkeys. I was always a little monkey … apparently. Now I’m a banana eating ape but I don’t throw them around … anyone where a gorilla outfit?
    The world’s gone mad …

  • 65 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    the perfect thread for catchy to vent. where is he?

  • 66 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    And I’m not a big fan of Pardew either – he is mediocre but he could be good. Can’t see him being a great manager though.

  • 67 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    markaccus

    I think that stats are very useful if you use the right one for what you need.

    Last year stats were used to show simmo was the best right back in the league but everyone could see it wasn’t true…..you need to look at everything not just one or two aspects of the play.

  • 68 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Cheers 2Yo! :)

  • 69 bills-son // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    TDS @ 12 – great bit of info there comparing Pards win % with Moyes and Redknapp.

    Ed saying Pards performance is ‘mediocre at best’ is a joke statement for a guy who finished 5th last year and won two Manager of the year awards.

    I said I’d judge Ashley on his signing this Jan – he came up trumps.

    Pards has had abysmal luck with injuries, suspensions, loss of form and the failure to buy more in the summer. Now that he has reinforcements I’ll judge him on the remaining games this season and the first 10 next season. This ‘Pards is sh1te’ stuff is way over the top and underserved imo.

  • 70 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    We always use the word beast – Drogba was a beast, AC was a beast, Sissoko is a beast. Got nothing to do with race at all – its about all round strength on and off the ball.
    An animal is just a dirty player like.

    (I live in Scotland too)

  • 71 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Not sure if it has already been stated – but apparently Rolando has rejected a ‘name your own salary’ offer from QPR to sign for Napoli!

    Can’t help but smile that floppy has missed out again.

  • 72 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Tsunki

    I assume you didn’t actually read my subsequent post? I assume not. Nothing to do with your use of the word numpty, I’m sure you’re aware of that. It’s more the “you don’t know enough about football” stuff that grates on me on here.

    A lot of people seem to think it’s not OK to question the manager – just like others think it’s not OK to have faith in him. I’m a bit of both, but right now I’m questioning his persistence with something that clearly doesn’t work.

    Last night, you can argue that we needed to grind out a result, of course – I’m fine with that – but bringing on a man who can barely move and hitting long balls to him (not a single one of which he actually retained possession from) isn’t the way to do that.

    And yes, we won the game – but the same tactic has been used plenty of times this season and it hasn’t won us a single game prior to this. One victory doesn’t make something a success, any more than a few losses make it a failure.

  • 73 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Yo-yo

    And you can’t refer to somebody as a ‘Machine’ anymore…as it offends my TOASTER….and upsets me greatly! :-)

  • 74 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    “I think that stats are very useful if you use the right one for what you need.”

    Sage –
    A fine definition of the general trustworthiness of stats. Remember the ones that made Simpson the best PL Right back. And I believe their was a good one for Willo. Stats. You have to laugh.

  • 75 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Bills-son

    Seeing as your on. You’ve taken a massive slagging from many people for the endless trumpeting of MA – particularly his ambition for the club as I’m sure you’d admit he’s made a lot of wrong calls too.
    This last four weeks have definitely proven you more right than wrong.
    Tactically he’s got the signing policy spot on this window. Great players great VFM

  • 76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Yo and Tsunki…What you don’t get is that when we win it is is completely down to the players and not the manager. When we lose it’s because the manager got in to the players heads. Do keep up.

    TDS…That wasn’t a dig at you, generally you’re one of the most “balanced” posters on here.

  • 77 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    @Tsage. Another example could be Jonas. Often in the top few of most fouled players. Managers often have players double up marking him, and so even though he doesn’t seem to do a lot in attack, space is being created for other players, and he is winning free kicks in good places.

  • 78 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    bills

    I think people dont often see the bigger picture with these things.

    Over his whole career pards win% is mediocre at best…thats a fair statement.

    But what I will say is that you look at each season as a whole and see what you can take from it.

    his first season, joined mid way, lost his main goalscorer shortly after and managed to get us mid table, would have been top ten if we hadn’t shipped those 3 second half goals in the last game….but first season back mid table was fine.

    second season he managed to get us 5th, by hook or by crook he did it, yes we were lucky chelsea messed up but even if they hadn’t we would have been 6th which would also have been good…we may have had a lot of scrappy games but you make your own luck in games, we had a great keeper and battled well even when were weren’t playing well which is a top characteristic. So overall a great season.

    This season so far has been poor, poor transfer window and injuries havent helped at all, but I think we should be around the 10-12th mark so pardew has underperformed…..But thats the first season he has underperformed in my view. He still has 15 games to turn it around though and if he can do that a poor season could become an average or even good one.

    Yes Pardew has a lot to learn, and I do think he would benefit from a continental coach to help in training but he is doing a decent job.

  • 79 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Jeez Pardew never misses a chance to big himself up. “Winner” ? Are u sure Alan? Great result last night but we were played off the pitch in the second half. Did we get in their penalty box? Any thoughts on Debuchy – he didnt look like an international last night, but plenty of time yet….

  • 80 Peter // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Hard to please the pardew neggers. Don’t even sing when we are winning.

  • 81 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Munster, if Simmo had given that penalty away the reaction on the blog could have brought down the entire internet.

  • 82 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    yo-yo

    I think Ashey has been brilliant in this window, doesnt make those who criticised him in the summer wrong though as he failed big time then and left us in trouble.

    He has done everything possible this window to get us out of it, so bug credit there, he could have got 1 or 2 but he got 5 which is superb.

    He does however, need to continue to spend in the summer, not huge amounts but get another 2-4 players in to take us on and freshen up and motivate the current lot.

    Complacency can creep in if new bodies aren’t brought in, man utd never stand still, always add 1 or 2 even if they do well.

    So I praise ashley for what he has done this window but he needs to show in the summer he has learned from his mistakes

  • 83 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Tequila… :) Ain’t that the truth.

  • 84 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    munster

    Debuchy was up against a very hungry agbonlahor….he gives any fullback problems with his pace.

  • 85 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Munster

    Abonglahor (how the hell do you spell that?) got in behind him about 200 times, but it looked like it was just down to pace to me – Debuchy should have been aware that he was up against one of the fastest players in Europe, and told to sit back for a bit.

    When we were holding on for our lives near the end, he was still bombing forward making overlapping runs. It bodes well for the future, but it’s pretty nerve racking when it’s like last night.

  • 86 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    BTW that is not to say that Simmo is better than Debuchy, his tats alone are worth a place in the team.

  • 87 BigKirky // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Chelsea are definitely there to be attacked. Confidence breeds confidence, no doubt at all.

  • 88 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    tequila

    debuchy may have tats on his side but dont forget about simmo’s stats haha

  • 89 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    That’s great TDS and its a shame we disagree on this but I saw the reality of the situation, the fact that despite our wonderful signings they are keen but team-wise not yet ready, and the same problem persists in holding onto a lead and the ramifications of being reversed. Psychologically it would have been disastrous if Villas’ creditable gung-ho 2nd half had worked so I don’t blame him for nailinmg it down as he saw fit, which you may not have liked but worked. In better times we would have shaped to catch them on the counter but these aren’t those times. The proof is in the result. Let’s see how it pans out over the rest of the season but in the end, I was looking at the above picture and sorry if it offends but I think there are quite a few who wouuld agree there are a lot of match day knee-jerkers who display their scant appreciation for what is actually happening by inane comments about ‘poor second half. Like against reading’ or similar, along with the ‘Pardew out’ mantra. They were my intended recipients not the blog in general.

  • 90 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21258729

    Sorry if this has been posted.

    Birmingham accept a £3.5m bid from Chelsea for Butland, then Butland rejects Chelsea because he wants to play football.

    Says the only way he’ll agree to leave (because they desperately need to sell) is if he’s loaned back to Birmingham for the rest of the season.

  • 91 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    chelsea have been poor for a month now….no reason we cant take advantage of us.

  • 92 check the toastie // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    I sing when we are winning and playing well, this season that was last night first half inclusive, maybe Reading first half last week. Hardly gave us much to sing about old Parsnip.

    Still looking forward to the game Saturday, desperate that we can give Chelski a game, Liked all the new Frenchies, would even consider a change of formation so Yanga can get his debut. Dont mind keeping it nice and tight against Chelsea as they have soem super players.

    ………………..Krul………………….
    …….Yanga..Saylor…Collo……..
    Debuchy………………………Santon
    ……..Anita..Cabaye.Sissoko
    …………Goofy……Cisse……….

    Dont need perchy to sit as we have 3 centre backs, 2 of which can bring the ball out well, great 3 in the middle with the wo grafters up front. Highly unlikely mind you.

  • 93 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Simmo would have saved he penalty off the line too … hoofing it to Shola who is in an offside position and has been for five minutes.

  • 94 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    I find it hard to believe what I read sometimes. Outrageous really.

    Perch had to play last night, and Marv wasn’t available. Cabaye is in a recovery period so Pards covered the possibility of him and Saylor not seeing the game out with Mapou and Anita as like for like replacements.

    His starting team was the right one, his subs were also spot on. Jonas is struggling just now but he stops the other team and his block was as good as a goal. His legs are going, he isn’t the player he once was, but he has a place at this club. Lets not disrespect him even though he probably isn’t going to be starting games much longer.

    Willo and Simmo were the obvious weak lengths, and we have addressed that as well as a few upgrades in other positions. But it’s impossible to just throw them all in. Patience is a virtue.

    Long term we will improve steadily and remember we are 18 months I to a 5 year plan. For once I want an owner, staff, players and fans all to buy into the plan. With this type of recruitment we could have a team of players 25-30 who have grown together. Can we threaten the top clubs in a few years? Why not. But it’s a long difficult road.

    Keep the faith and please support the boys as much as you can, manager included who deserves our help.

  • 95 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    TS tats alone are meaningless without looking without taking into account opposition, injuries etc . Stats on the other hand never lie, at least when I use them.

  • 96 izzyb1991 // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Will we pull it out of the bag and sign a striker today lads?

  • 97 Big Pappa Cissé // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    It was never a penalty in the first place. Agbonlahor stepped on Debuchy’s planted foot and went over like a sack of sh*te. Debuchy should have dragged the cheating tw*t up by his little poop tash. Can’t believe the ref bought it, bet it wouldn’t have been a pen if it was at St. James’ park.

  • 98 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    big pappa

    I think it was a pen….debuchys back (left) foot/shin pushed into agbonlahors calf and knocked him down (in dramatic fashion mind) so i get why the ref gave it.

    Tight either way though so not a shocker from the ref.

    He missed much worse tackles in the game though.

  • 99 check the toastie // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Love the way people believe that Pardew is to have some great epiphany that makes him a great forward thinking manager, when he has never proved this in his career.

    He has never succeeded at any club he has been at long term, i hope he proves me wrong but i see no evidence in his reasoning or judgement. This is opinion is based on performances and selections since he has been at the club, not on the last performance, i know i have become a broken record but i think he will never get the most from whatever squad he is in charge of. :(

  • 100 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    sirtoon

    we started the 5 year plan when ashley first took over.

    so which version are we on now? and what are the details?

    I dont think there is a 5 year plan at all, just a plan to buy cheap but good players and try ot develop our own.

  • 101 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Tsunki

    Well what I would say is that I believe if it wasn’t for the penalty – possible a stupid thing to consider, but it was just one little bit of naivety from a new player – the second half would have been a very comfortable one indeed. I think we would have caught them on the break, as the players would have less fear about them.

    Anyway, after initial annoyance last night I’d say we should consider last night a fresh start. Pardew get’s a fresh start with a little more depth that he needs, Coloccini gets a fresh start, and so do blog scapegoats and all round good guys Jonas & Williamson.

  • 102 Hatem's better than Messi // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    If Debuchy had waited a second they’d have been outside the box. That was his mistake. Whether the tackle was good or not he should have waited.

  • 103 alf // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Pardew tried, but couldn’t snatch defeat from the jaws of victory! How Jonas and Ameobi get a game, Pardew will manage to ruin Sisskos game with his League one tactics, unless Ashley wakes up and blows the clueless moron out of the door!

  • 104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Tsunki…I’m not sure I get your point about negative people making silly comments on here.

    Oh, hi Alf, how you doing?

  • 105 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Check nobody has suggested Pards has had some great epiphany. Most people have argued that Pards has been hampered with lack of options and should be judged on what he can achieve with a full deck to play with.

  • 106 boater // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    I was just about to comment on how some sense has been restored to the blog today – after last night’s attack of the rabid mob with their Pardew Out, Jonas is Rubbish placards.

    And then I saw Alf commenting….

  • 107 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Penalty was debatable but he didn’t need to make a challenge just stand him up

  • 108 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Also quite amusing to see the first glimmer of Debuchy- bashing because he gave some respect to Agbonlahors pace. TDS this is the stuff I am talking about, come on really you have to see that ha ha :)

  • 109 toonfan76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    sorry guys but i think those of you who are bashing Pardew should remember what happened last season when he was voted manager of the season. Also you have to remember at the start of the season we had a strong first 11 but no strength it depth. Injuries and the lack of investment in the summer are the real reason we ended up where we are. Remember Pardew can only make the best of the players he had available at the time. Our run in to the end of the season will hopefully be a better reflection of his managerial ability, hoping there are no more injury woes. HWTL

  • 110 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Tsunki, it`s quite amazing that there has to be hate figures. Before Cabaye was injured there was a gathering momentum of people slagging him off.

  • 111 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    TS the plan was announced a few mo the after Pardew took over. Pardew himself spoke about it when he signed his contract (not the 8 year one).

    I think you are wrong on this one.

  • 112 jrb // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    That was a great result last night – be happy. Judge Pardew after 5 years. I think he makes daft judgements on subs as well but all managers do. Assuming the French lads including Cabaye were knackered I think we held on very well. Debuchy does tend to stick a foot out when not required – all of the forwards in the premier seem to be able to find any loose foot to fall over but I’m sure he’ll learn quickly. Otherwise he looks a far superior player to previous.

  • 113 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    check

    All the more reason I believe that Pardew needs an assistant manager or first team coach to help him work with the players on attacking movement and passing game.

    Pardew hasn’t played in a great footballing side or managed one so has limited experience on hot to get that going.

    I think its like any business….you can’t be an expert in every aspect so you need to get some training and help until you are up to speed.

    If we can get somebody to help him I think it’s a great move.

  • 114 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    sirtoon

    Well I remember when Ashley first took over there was discussion of a 5 year plan which was culminating in us challenging around the top of the league.

    I’m not saying there isn’t a 5 year plan in name, but without any knowledge of what the plan is, year on year goals, how they plan to achieve it, its worthless to us fans as a reference point as we dont know what is actually happening.

  • 115 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    toonfan76

    I think pardew has been hampered by injuries this year. No problem there, didnt expect another 5th finish but with the players he has had this season I think we should be 4/5 places higher.

    But now he has his new players we can hopefully crack on and improve, he needs until at least the end of the year in my eyes.

  • 116 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Tsunki

    I see it, I see it. I thought Debuchy did well last night – but I think he should have been asked to sit back a bit more, given that GA is one of the fastest players in Europe when fit.

    I thought that other than that he defended very well. Some of the challenges he put in could only be described as ‘tasty’, but I’m glad he managed to end his run of consecutive bookings before it reached Perch-like levels.

    Also, whilst it wont happen since we paid £8m+ for Mbiwa, I’d happily see that starting 11 from now until the end of the season. Has a very nice balance to it, and considering there’s 3 very new players in there they linked up quite well. Looking forward to watching it grow, although the next 2 games will be a real battle.

  • 117 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    @ts
    Wasn’t it said when Ashley took over his 5 year plan was for us to be competing for a regular European spot

  • 118 Spuggy // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    This pardew out rusbbish is really getting my goat. How do you think the club will achieve long term stability if we keep changing managers. We can’t attract Mourinho or SAF.

    Changing managers every five minutes is the WORST thing a football club can do, Did us no good in the past did it. We’ve had 8 managers since SBR left in 2004. That’s one manager per year and we achieved NOTHING as a result, and yet ‘fans’ want to change pardew in spite of the successes of last year.

    This short-sightedness will get us nowhere. We need to stick with pardew who now has one of the most exciting teams since the first KK era and support him in building a stable and solid team which can compete for top 6 every year.

    The squad was never big enough to start this campaign with the rediculous Europa schedule, even if everyone was fit. Add to that the injuries and we have capitulated. That has now been fixed and depth added. With a couple more quality signings and 3-4 decent youngsters we should be ready for all competitions on all fronts.

  • 119 ichrisho // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    We got lucky 2nd half – some of the subs were shocking…. I think when Jonas had lost the rag after that challenge – Pardew should have taken him off – he completely went off the boil at that point… and why was he crying at the end of the game?

    Also my team for Chelsea:
    Krul
    Mbiwa Taylor Collo
    Debs Santon
    Anita Sissoko Cabaye
    Cisse Graham (Believe me)

  • 120 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    We need to sign up Wilfried Bony/Gomis and Sulejmani/Zarate in the next few days and sign Douglas, Alderweireld, Benteke and Boudebouz in the summer.

  • 121 Spuggy // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    ichristo

    Jonas (albeit not a great performance) stopped a shot on goal at the end which would have resulted in 2-2. We were in a fight at that point, why take off one of your most defensive wingers. Besides – it worked didn’t it! We won.

  • 122 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    I just remember him doing an interview saying that he had been given a 5 year mission and in that time we had to stabilise the club. He had a 5 year contract and he said “I will bring a trophy here in the next 5 years”. But the main message was long term stability. Improve the club from the ground up, and in fairness behind the scenes there is huge investment and growth.

    The 1st team is the focal point but they feel that to be a successful club there has to be solid foundations. The top clubs all have this. Gradually I can see us having small successes, with good young players, several under 18 internationals and recruitment from abroad going well also. This window has seen us do great things, but can we sustain it? We have taken a backward step it seems this season but if it has a bearing on the next 5 years then fair enough.

    I don’t think the regime, management, team are anywhere near perfect, but I can see us trying to do something.

  • 123 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Kets

    We’ve signed 5 players in a January transfer window – it’s not going to get any better than that man :)

    I’d like to see us sign a Shola replacement. I don’t mind direct football, but Shola is not longer the player to implement it, nor is Cisse.

  • 124 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    As I have said before, I wouldnt sack Pardew. But I would certainly appraise his situation at the end of the season. This probably wont happen, but I dont think thats unreasonable, despite what the hysterically pro Pardew heads will scream. I have read no decent intelligent comment on the second half, except that Villa were desperate and frantic. Surely we could have managed a modicum more control? In reality, we couldnt complain if we had lost 3-2. So glad of the win, but lets be rational in our analysis please.

  • 125 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Pardew won’t bring a trophy in to average and has no killer instinct

  • 126 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Posted this earlier. Would this be a stupid idea for saturday…
    ———-Krul
    Deb–colo–stayl–sant
    ———-yanga
    —–sissk—-cabs
    Goofy—cisse—someone.

    No need for willo on the bench as 3 cbs are playing.
    Harps
    Perch
    Haidara
    Anita
    Jonas
    Obert
    Shola

  • 127 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Check

    Football Managers’ careers like Prime Ministers end in failure – almost by definition. Exceptions are SAF. Even Winston Chruchill’s career ended in failure as he got dunped.

    TS

    I agree we need a fresh approach and very possibly a new coaching input. But – it will only be as successful as the managers tactics allow. I wanted Jol as manager when AP came in but he has hardly set the world alight at Fulham. Continental doesn’t always mean better than what we have.

  • 128 alf // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Its seems clear the Pardew supporters have a limited grasp of Football. We played a team last night that are doomed, yet the Brain Surgeon Pardew, insists on playing Jonas who is finished up against the worst Defence in the Division, and Ameobi who is the worst Striker anywhere, he can’t hold the ball up, win headers, he’s a total cock-up!

  • 129 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Pardew won’t bring a trophy in?

    Well isn’t it a shame he can’t carry on our tradition of hauling in trophies every season. I guess we’ll just have to start getting used to not winning silverware.

  • 130 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Munster…What would you have done to gain more control in the second half? I appreciate I am more pro Pardew than most, not because I think he’s wonderful, more in that I don’t think he’s dreadful, but I can’t see what it was he did to screw things up yesterday. Villa went for us quickly, we conceded a penalty and the players got nervous and couldn’t pick out passes anymore. How can we keep control if we can’t keep the ball and what can Pardew actually do?

  • 131 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Tads
    Where the hell did I say that we are used to winning trophies I said Pardew won’t bring in a trophy dohhhh

  • 132 izzyb1991 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Spuggy (118) Agreed. But it is hard to shake off some of the abysmal performances. I’ve always backed the stability thing even through the hard times but my breaking point was Reading. After that I wanted Pardew out because it was him who set the team up to lose in that second half- we know our players are good, very good so it stops with the manager when a game plan completely changes after the half. I was all but done with the Toon right there but the signings regained my faith and so did last night and now, through clearer eyes, I see you’re right. I don’t think Pardew is a quality tactician but he’s a good man and a good manager and I do think he gets the best out of players. Is he the man to win trophies with? I doubt it for now but he could improve, he definitely has certain assets that make for a winning team but for me, I just want a fun team to watch and support and trophies aren’t everything for me. I for one would like Shearer to join the coaching staff in a couple of years once we’ve settled as a regular top 6 side and then, eventually, Shearer take over once he’s cut his teeth and that’s when the glory days are back. Ha- dreaming.

    And it just clicked earlier today after being disheartened by our backfootedness in the second half yesterday that we got a huge result. Playing against a team in the same relegation scrap as us- fighting for their lives, playing away from home (never forget the impact that has), whilst being a bag of nerves after losing so many leads and so many away games this year. To survive a second half onslaught which started with a penalty in the first 5 minutes of the restart- to withstand 40 minutes of that takes real grit. Seriously. These are the battling qualities we had last season. You make your own luck and last season our fight gave us our luck but this season we’ve just given up. With the new arrivals, Taylor back in the side and Colo up for it we’ve showed that grit again and I am placing my bets on a top 10 finish now.

  • 133 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    TDS… :)

  • 134 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    TDS – taking a long slow breath innnn… And out aaahhhhhh. Thinking of the sounds of the ocean… :D

    Yes I see Debuchy is indeed a man of ‘tasty’ challenges. We were warned though ha ha.

    Ketsy – that list of yours has no end does it?

  • 135 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Sorry at not tads
    Goon down south

  • 136 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    it seems clear to me that Alfred has a very limited viewpoint and no interest in discussion so simply sits there and types stuff for a reaction. that said his last post was better than normal

  • 137 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Ibiza

    I really disagree with bringing on Shola and hitting long balls to him – not because I think this isn’t a valid tactic, because it is. But Shola isn’t good enough, he really isn’t. He gives his all, I appreciate that, but he’s just not.

    I don’t think we retained possession from a single long ball yesterday. Really, not one. Of course Pardew doesn’t have an alternative to Shola at the moment, but I just think that the tactic just put more pressure on us.

  • 138 Tsunki // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    TDS – alf says pardew supporters have a limited grasp of football get him! I’ll hold his feet !

  • 139 Ketsbaia9 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Nope, our squad will never be complete. We desperately need one striker in before tomorrow.

  • 140 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    dazgoon

    See, I can play with funny words too.

    No,he probably won’t – but seeing as Kevin Keegan and Sir Bobby Robson both failed on that front too, despite having unbelievable financial backing, I’d say it’s a pretty moot point.

  • 141 boater // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    If we survive this season I’m prepared to write this one off a blip. Hopefully this experience will have galvanised us on to better things from here on. Stability is important – but if things continue to go awry next season the board will be justified in looking to look at other management options.

    The main worry after a collapse is the loss of top players. The spending spree is a gesture to those players that we have ambition – so there’s half a chance of keeping them on that basis.

    Our midfield options now are up there with the best in the league. We have cover at fullback and in central defense. We still need a prolific striker to play with Cisse – as 4-3-3 isn’t right every week.

    Send the kids out on loan – it’s unfair to judge them amidst the turmoil of this season.

  • 142 check the toastie // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    We have an unbelievably exciting SQUAD, currently we dont have an exciting TEAM, this is down to Pardew, lets see how he goes toil the end of the season, however i do have my doubts that he will somehow turn Sissoko, Goofron and Mbiwa into lesser players than turned up. :(

    Lets see what happens Saturday, last night was a good first half, bad second, its just his insistence on Shola and Jonas that tortures me, however they cant go on forever, although they are both way past their best. Dont think Shola ever had a best mind you.

  • 143 mindshaft // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    jesus – there are so many fifa and FM managers on here who have no idea of the real game, theres a reason your on the dole lads – its because you’re is as thick as shit when it comes to tactics or players
    Who we slagging off today… Pards obviously and in the last week Debuchy, Perch, Jonas, Collo, Santon, Cisse, Shola, Sammi, Willo anyone I’ve missed?

  • 144 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    TDS….I agree with that, I really do, however I did note that almost every time we tried to put together some decent football in the second half there were misplaced passes, tiring legs, bad challenges on our players…it was getting so nervy I can understand clearing the ball to some extent. I don’t like it, but if you can’t bring it out, what do you do?

    Having said all that, there does seem to be a desire within a few of the players to pass the ball about a bit more and I’d imagine when they’re less nervous and get some confidence back this aspect will improve greatly.

  • 145 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Yo yo

    That’s why I want somebody to work with pardew who can add to his style and improve, no just overhaul.

    On regards to changing managers not being a good ploy, well it’s not ideal but sometimes essential. I don’t want pardew gone before anyone says that. What in saying is you need a clear style of play, like how Swansea have improved changing manager with Martinez, rogers and now laudrupp.

    If you change a manger you need to maker sure you get somebody who is not just good but fits in with the style I players you have available and the style you want to play.

  • 146 Pardews Parsnip Bonce // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    boater @141 best post I’ve read today. agree on all points.

  • 147 Phoenix // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    I think you can’t compare win ratios between managers as they all had differen teams they put out and played different teams as well.at the end of the day the overall quality of premiership has improved on any given day anybody could win.this season pardew has had his hands tied in the sense of small injury prone squad,too many youngsters having to come in all at once .lets face it in an ideal world these recent signings would of arrived last summer and pardews stats would have been a lot better,hopefully last nights result was a turning point and the team can kick on from there.

  • 148 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    @goon down south
    Did I say they did No all I said was Parew wouldn’t bring in a trophy Goon

  • 149 mindshaft // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    TDS – exactly, we havent had any success since 1969 – the way people go on you would think we were winning trophy after trophy prior to Ashley and his mob turning up

  • 150 toonLYF // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    If we go to Loftus Road second last game and absolutely smash QPR, putting them down, that may be the most satisfying result as a Newcastle fan ever.

  • 151 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Check, Shola would not be a first choice pick for anybody despite you predicting that he would start on Tuesday. He was brought on to provide an outlet as we were camped in our own half. Mutiny by Lemons went to the match last night and made the comment that he actually did very well when we were defending ser pieces marking Benteke who failed to win a single header against him. We were already getting battered before he came on and can not be blamed for Villa coming at us. Of course he does make a convenient scapegoat.

  • 152 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    @mindshaft
    You signed on this morning I see

  • 153 boater // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Alf’s comments about Jonas and Shola are typical of the mob mentality on here. Last week it was Willo – now it’s Jonas. When jonas is dropped it will be someone else. It never ends.

    Shola came on to help build a barricade and man mark Benteke in the closing minutes.. which he did with a number of clearing headers. Jonas isn’t playing his best football but brings experience and a bit of graft to release other players.

  • 154 lesh // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Rednapp’s got a nerve commenting on other club’s players. We’ll not forget the can of worms he opened when he opened his trap over Ba’s release claus, and now he’s commenting on Sissoko. He’ll never learn to shut up!!

    And now he appears to be putting the blame on agents for involving him in deals!!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2013/jan/28/harry-redknapp-transfer-window-video

    Suppose that explains Capoue and closer to home, Remy so that’s all right then!

    Let’s hope Capoue can see through the sheisters and realise that if he’s tempted by big paydaysat QPR, then he’s gonna take the hit when they’re relegated!

  • 155 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    boater

    Shola was terrible last night I think.

    But usually he does a job coming on in the last 20 mins, he normally holds the ball well, draws fouls and wastes some time to relieve the pressure off of our defense.

    So the sub made perfect sense for me. It wasn’t a bad move by pardew, rather a bad performance by shola.

  • 156 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Haha. No you didn’t daztoon, no you didn’t.

    You’re aware Mcleish won a trophy at Birmingham, right? Pardew won the football league trophy with Southampton. Kenny Dalglish won countless trophies throughout his career.

    In fact, Pardew came within 2 minutes and a Steven Gerrard 40 yard thunderbolt from winning the FA Cup with West Ham!

    Pardew’s career to date shows that he’s usually pretty average, then every now and again everything clicks, and he has a fantastic season. That’s what we saw last season, and hopefully with the team we have and the financial backing the club can bring, we’ll see a few more.

  • 157 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    TDS

    couldn’t agree more with that last post.

    Pardew may have taken teams down or close to the drop but its not like he did it with man utd or arsenal…it was west ham and charton…hardly thrived before or after him.

    People dont often consider that he didn’t have the best team and we are the biggest club he has managed and this is the first time he has had a really technically good squad so might take him some time to get it right and he might need help from a coach to work alongside him who knows how to implement that style better.

  • 158 toonLYF // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Harry Redknapp is how I imagine a kid with Down syndrome acting on football manager

  • 159 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Boater

    Alf is a WUM

    What you’re ally saying is what doesn’t kill (relegate) you makes you stronger.

    I believe we are building the team around Cabs and his style of play and he will stay as will most of his countrymen for a couple of seasons. He could be our captain for many years. Look at him calming Jonas last night. Leadership just came naturally to him. If we are then challenging top 4 and having decent cup runs it would be pointless to move for anything other than a CL winning standard team (and I don’t mean CL fluking team like Chelski)

  • 160 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    @tds
    But ain’t talking about any other managers.The game last night was pretty similar to the Reading game.Second half we shut up shop again and played hoof ball anywhere.The best way for us to defend as a team is to retain the ball and until Pardew changes his mind set we won’t win anything under his negative tactics

  • 161 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Ibiza, I dont think its unreasonable to ask that the players could have demonstrated more quality on the ball in the second half. Please dont take it that I am rabidly anti Pardew – I’m not, and like him in many ways, but his coaching has got to instil more control. He bangs on about controlling games, but we turfed the ball away all second half. Ameobi helped out at the back, but what did we , or Pardew expect from him up front. Didnt seem like a great sub to me. And who instructed Krul to blast long all day?? These are perfectly fair questions – remember, we didnt have a seasoned team out, but that was no reserve/Brighton team there. I think we could have maintained the ball better, but if Pardew still spends 4 out of 5 days on defensive training, maybe a clue lies in there??

  • 162 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Shola was there last night to act as target/hold up man IF we got into counterattacking mode (which we didn’t) and to add height for us in defending against their long ball tactics by taking Benteke out through winning defensive headers.
    Good call by Pards.

  • 163 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    I do think we need to really work on retaining the ball.

    The best thing we could have done last night to stop villa would have been to put our foot on the ball and just keep hold of it for 5-10 mins to take the sting out of their game.

    I appreciate villa made it difficult by pressing high and closing quickly but we need to find a way to counter this.

    I’m sure Pardew can learn though, he seems to shout and gesture the right things from the touch line about keeping the ball or pressing up.

  • 164 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    yo-yo

    It was a good call by pards…just a poor display from shola in my view.

    Nothing stuck to him which let us down and heaped pressure onto us. Just a bad game what everyone has.

  • 165 yo-yo // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Munster

    Also Colo wapped out a few 50m clearances from defence too though he was very sound almost the whole game.

  • 166 Peter // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    The way villa was rugby tackling every player that had the ball longer than 3 seconds it was impossible to retain the ball

  • 167 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    TS

    I think most teams would have struggled to cope with Villa’s pressing in that second half, to be honest.

    Rodger’s Liverpool are really struggling this season whenever a team decides to ‘get at them’, hence they got absolutely humiliated by Villa and Stoke, then lost to Oldham.

    Hell, even Barcelona struggle with it from time to time, and they have without doubt the best ball retention of any time I’ve ever witnessed.

    Villa’s burst of energy in the second half came from making two half time substitutions – one of which was Abonglahor – and I think if we’d weathered the first 10 minutes we’d have seen the game out comfortably. Just a little bit of naivety from Debuchy let us down.

  • 168 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Sorry Munster…Have to run out. I get what you’re saying, I honestly feel a lot of it is down to confidence. They have shown they know how to pass well and not hoof, in fact in the first half even Krul was passing it out to build an attack. It all went down the toilet when we conceded and got nervous. I think confidence or a lack thereof has been a huge issue this season.

    Until next time.

  • 169 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    TDS I think Villa had been sucking on crack pipes at half time.

  • 170 belgrade fan // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    and what if Cisse gets injured?? we r gambling again, like we did it last Jan with not buying CB. it could cost us a lot… we really need a striker

  • 171 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Yo Yo, Benteke nearly scored twice when Shola was on to man mark him?? Great win, but most times if you play like that second half, you’ll get a point if lucky. All I’m saying is that given Sissoko, Cabaye, Debuch, Colo, Cisse , we could have managed the second half a bit better, even in such a mad atmosphere. Still, much to build on. Gotta say, I like the look of Gouffran.

  • 172 King Arfa // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    has Torq made this conferance call yet?

  • 173 check the toastie // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Bringing Shola onto the pitch should only ever be an option if we need a goal with ten minutes left. Are we saying it was a great tactic to bring a forward on to mark Benteke, Willo and Mbiwa were on the bench, Shola was brought on to hold the ball up and gain a position further on the pitch, however it just made us lump the ball forward and our football deteriated after that as it always does.

    People on here are either blind or Stupid. Shola came on we got worse, Jonas got tired he and we got worse.

    He never gets took off, he would need to be in a coma to be subbed, and then im not sure Pardew wouldnt try and give him the Kiss of Life. Oh my, so many people wallow in mediocrity, i set my sights higher, guilty of that for sure.

  • 174 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Colo is a good player but not a great leader or organiser we are all over the place at the back.Never seen him give anyone a gee up on the pitch or pull someone into cover a fullback going forward.last night midfielders were getting in behind Santon with no call to pull him back

  • 175 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    CF or bust

    Pardew out after last nights second half performance he really showed me he is really really inapt in making decisions when the team is in trouble…

  • 176 GAZ09 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Why is there so much negativity on here? We just signed 5 players in the past week and recorded our first away win of the season yet its still not good enough.

  • 177 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    I think we missed Tiote in the game yesterday,if there’s one sentence that sums up Tiote for me this season it would be”FFS Tiote get rid”,but when he is on his game he’s usually the one picking up the ball from the back 4 and tries to get us going forward.

  • 178 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Check, so anybody who disagrees with you is content to wallow in mediocrity? The arrogance of that comment is only matched by the ignorance of your analysis which is blinded by hatred.

  • 179 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    @176

    I sorta have to disagree. With his reputation and tendency to go ‘hulk mode’. It could have potentially ended up with a sending off… considering how many solid tackles were in the second half…

    One of the more physical games I’ve seen… especially with Villa trying to hack down some of our lads.

  • 180 Peter // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Check, what sets sight higher? Like 5th last season?

  • 181 bollance // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Most important thing last night was the 3 points. Job done. There was also some nice football in the first half but the second half was played by a team who had not won away for over 8 months.

    The difference yesterday was that we played with more fight and determination.

    There is a thin line between winning and losing. We would have lost that game without Sissoko and Cabaye. They made a massive difference.

    Getting a result against Chelsea will be massive but we can expect that to happen considering we lost to them at home last season when we were grinding out results.

    It would be money well spent getting this Willian Vainqueur as it means we can send Bigi out on loan for the remainder of the season. Surely the positive impact it will have on Bigi will justify spending £2-3m on a new DM?

  • 182 No Plain Saylor // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    One thing is for certain Pardew ain’t gonna make it to 200 games in charge of Newcastle I guarantee it.

    “I’m a winner” b1tch please.. haha

  • 183 alf // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    On Pardews watch, Carroll,Nolan,Barton,Best,Lovenkrands, Enrique,Ba and Fraser Forster. All gone, yet he has kept, Ameobi,Ranger,Jonas,Simpson and signed, Obertan and Elliott, who can’t even make the bench. And he wonders why we are Struggling the Mug!

  • 184 stuart no9 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    so — pards reckons hes a winner ?? no. your only a winner if you win something- at least that is what i thought it meant. how can he be a winner hahahahaha. hes never won anything , ever. any club owner , chairman of any club will tell you a managers job is all about getting points on the board. how he does it , is down to him. the board dont want to heat excuses they just want to see points end of story. 24 points out of 72 IS a sackable offence. any club in the country, in any league with that ratio , their manager would be sacked. ” winner” god forbid . he is the luckiest manager on the planet. the mind boggles !

  • 185 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    i find it hard to believe what some ppl see in pardew,,

    i guess we have all used stats to get our points accross,, but those same stats are turned against us all the time, as every match has a different set of circumstances that suround it,,
    stats never take into account weather, or who played that day,,

    my original argument about pardew and why i dont think he is good enough is simple,, he is not a brave manager,
    reasons
    1- he is not brave, he would rather sit and defend than try and score, this is not just last night ,, this has been since he got here
    2- tactics, he plays attack minded players in defensive set ups,, has done since he got here
    3- things like mana managment, IMO is very poor, amazing if your shola, obertan,jonas,perch, but most others, very poor,, how many times has he thow the kids under the bus, :(
    4- his after match comments never match the game i just watched,, even last night,, we were magnificent, were we??,, we had a good first half, but the 2nd was among the worst iv seen us play
    5- subs,, nearly alway defensive in some way,, its never to put fresh legs out there,, and keep the good work going, always to change shape, with players out of position,,

    can you think of any other team that has so many players that have played out of there best position in any one game,, yet we do it most weeks,, its that bad now i dont know where most of our teams best position is

    this 5 year plan is a pile of shite,, you dont need a 5 year plan to play football,, you only need that to buy yourself time,,

    hasnt mike ash achieved his,, get into europe in 5 years? it will not happen agian under pardew

    sack him now

  • 186 Sazzer // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Ajax want Adam Maher if De Jong or Christian Eriksen leaves.

  • 187 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    I see Floppy is bidding for Samba now – triggering a release clause?! He loves those clauses doesn’t he??

    Considering samba ONLY wanted a team chasing titles – be interesting to see what happens and whether money talks…!

  • 188 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Anita.That could have happened too but we’ll never know.he walks a fine line at times.

  • 189 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Catchy – Who played out of position in last nights game?

  • 190 Sazzer // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Any more development on Willam “Wanker” Vainquer? Is it him on picture going around?

  • 191 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    QPR have activated samba’s release clause apparantly, didn’t blackburn get about £12 mil for him? Must be a hefty old fee deperate times

  • 192 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Alf your forgetting buying Cisse HBA cabaye Sissoke MYM Debuchy Tiote Santon et al . carrol we are well rid £35 mill Enrique Barton wanted out Nolan not worth what he wanted in ages.

  • 193 boater // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Cheick – I know how you like to rewrite history according to your hate list of players, but we were hanging on for grim life a long time before Shola came on. He came on to help see out the game – which we did. Not saying there aren’t issues with brittleness in the team but concentrating all your energy on one late substitution lacks any perspective.

  • 194 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Catchy.Here’s your theme tune.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ijtz6Du_s

  • 195 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Alf – And how many of them wanted to leave??!

    Carroll wanted to leave once a fee was accepted…he wasn’t forced out or anything like that…he WANTED to leave,

    Enrique – wanted to leave, refused new contract and walked for a small fee

    Nolan – wanted a ridiculous contract which would pay him extortionate money into his late 30’s

    Ba – Wanted to leave, release fee, hands tied

    Forster – was desperate to sign for Celtic, first team football and guaranteed European games

    Loven and Besty – great squad players but again, wanted REGULAR starts which they weren’t getting with Cisse and Ba.

    Get a grip man!

  • 196 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    TDS

    i dont blame debuchy ,,
    it was a very harsh pen,, both chasing a loose ball, a shoulder charge
    both feet landed side by side

    very harsh

    mind you,, i used to think debuchy was fast,, slow is one word for him lol

  • 197 Magickit // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Is cabaye only on 40k/week???

    But xisco at 50k/week?

    I m not blame xisco which not his fault as we all know he wont play for newcastle agqin becoz his contract clause..

    But how will cabaye . Hba. Tiote ….. Etc look at xisco?

  • 198 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    youtube is baned at work :(

    my tune of choice

    local hero,, super mark

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  • 200 Sazzer // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    GFNFrance ?@GFN_France

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  • 201 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Catchy.Have a look when you get home bud.:)

  • 202 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    I think some of you guys are being unreasonable. You cant expect a team who has not much confidence to start playing out from the back when its backs to the wall in a relegation 6 pointer away from home with the crowd roaring the home side on. I don’t see what other options Pardew had to bring on off the bench which would have changed the game in any other way. People and myself included were moaning about the negative subs last game against reading and they are still moaning now after bringing on shola for a midfielder. I must admit shola wasnt great offensively but he wasnt getting good balls into him they were desperate clearences and he did make some good defensive headers so I really cant see how people can complain about him coming on.

  • 203 boater // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    catchy – I think Pardew is a bit defensive at times, but the second half siege mentality last night was understandable. You have to allow for that based on where we are in the league and our recent form. Being able to hang on to a win – at last – will help to restore confidence. Expecting us to dazzle with passing, attacking football for 90mins in a relegation 6 pointer – not having won away all season is insane.

  • 204 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Catchy your like of Snowman of gloom who is melting as we speak.

  • 205 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    catchy

    I agree, harsh pen – but then after a couple of years in England he’ll be used to players do that I’m sure. A defender with a little more experience would have let him get outside the box before he even touched him – plus Mike Dean just loves a soft penalty, always has.

    Yeah he’s not the quickest, but on the other hand probably only Kyle Walker could match Abonglahor for pace ( I have no idea how to spell that name ).

  • 206 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    God damn it these smiley faces are somewhat elusive.:)

  • 207 santonthenewmaldini // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Come to think of it thank god Tiote was not playing last night he is one of the worst for losing the ball when under heavy pressure and he would probably have got sent off for lashing out after a few heavy challenges

  • 208 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    TorqToon

    jonas,, i have no clue where he was told to play he was everywhere
    gufran,, kept switching sides

    cisse,, dropped to left wing

    anita,, i have no clue where he was ment to play, at one point he was the furthest forward

    MYM DMC,, got overran ,, signed as a CB

    none of them played in there natural positions

  • 209 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Ah,fcuk it!!

  • 210 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Catchy
    No one was played out of fcuking position ffs lad!
    And point 3, bad man management? Every player praise’s pardew, every new signing has said how pardew sold the club too them, players whi have been sold under him, not a bad word
    Stop making sh1t up mate

    Alf
    Carroll £35 million he’s signed a new team with that ffs
    Nolan wanted a huge contract fair enough
    Barton made his position untenable with constant mouthing off against the boatd
    Best wanted garunteed 1st team football, same as guthrie
    Lovenkrands wanted more regular football Enrique same as barton
    Ba wanted a bigger pay pack
    Fraser Forster wanted first team football
    ” Yet hes signed obertan and Elliott, who can’t even make the bench”
    Well thats bollox isnt it both have featured fairly regularly
    Also you fail to mention the fact he signed
    Ba
    Cisse
    Cabaye
    Anita
    Sissoko
    Gouffran
    Debuchy
    Mbiwa
    Haidara
    Bigi
    Santoon
    Marveux
    But dont let the facts get in the way of a good story eh mackem boy

  • 211 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    …So who went all the way to Birmingham last night?

    I enjoyed the first half from the couch, but the second half was just like the old days (signings or no signings)

  • 212 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    im not expecting us to suddnley be amazing,, no way

    but, last night confirmed to me pardew will never be a winner,,

    perch over anita,,

    and honestly,, that seig was hammerd home by pardews subs,, i could see no way of respite,
    long lump up to shola, by himself, a guy that fouls more than he gets fould, and when he did win it,, no one to help

  • 213 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Catchy – You told me your weren’t happy about Cisse playing wide RIGHT this morning…now it’s wide LEFT??

    Jonas – you admit yourself that you don’t know where he was meant to be playing, yet you KNOW he was out of position??

    Yanga – Was nice of NUFC to invite you to the contact dealings and make you aware that if he was to be played it would be at CB and nowhere else…despite the fact he has played nearly 50 career games as a defensive midfielder??

    Gouffran – Kept switching sides!!? The term there is SWITCHING !!! Ie replacing somebody an having that person replace him. Standard be behaviour for wide players to do that at ANY level of football. But maybe you’ve never played the game??

    I’m sorry for ranting but you have been like a brick wall today an nothing seems to be getting through!

  • 214 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    TADS – It’s painful isn’t it??

  • 215 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Caychy Shola only played the last 20 minutes, we were well under the cosh long before Shola came on.

  • 216 Sazzer // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Come on get Anitas buddy Urby! LB, LW, AM, CM in one. Pardew must like that.

    Belhanda and loan with option to buy for Urby.

  • 217 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    How much experience does debuchy need he’s 27 an international you just stand the bloke up not make a rash tackle in the box.

  • 218 chanty // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    interesting read on the French league, http://www.football365.com/faves/8455147/Focus365. Can see why we do so much business over there

  • 219 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    yes there were many out of position,,

    and come on man,, i know your not that stupid as to say every player tells the truth

    OC there going to say the sun shines out of his ass

  • 220 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    I actually have no issue with Perch over Anita.

    Pardew wanted to play Sissoko furthest forward in the #10 position – a choice which was very much justified by his performance!

    I wouldn’t fancy a pair of Cabaye & Anita up against a very rough and physical Villa side.

    Plus, I imagine Pardew will always want a couple of English players on the pitch – so I don’t expect to see Taylor and Perch both left out, especially when they both played very well yesterday.

  • 221 sweendog // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    I’m not the first to praise Pardew but here I go.

    Excelled putting Sissoko as ACM or just behind Cisse
    His team formation for the first half was excellent.

    We have to realise this was an away win in the premiership .. not that easy a task these days .. granted he decided to play into Villas hands in the second half by just trying to negate them instead.

    But well done for the win

  • 222 gaz 44 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Some people are never going to be happy.. Pards could take us 2nd in the league and some of you would be demanding for his head cos we didn’t win .. I ain’t saying he’s the best manager but i think he’s done a great job given the circumstances the board have held him under regards to transfers.. even Kk and bobby had money to spend.. Now we’ve a bigger squad if we escape relegation he has to be given next year.. We’ve chopped and changed to many managers in the past and that’s why we got ourselves in such a mess..

  • 223 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Catchy
    Ffs man this morning cisse was right wing now left!
    Of course goofy n jonas kept switching most front 3’s rotate throughout 90 mins mate at every club!!
    Mbiwa is more than accomplished at DCM your arguement seems to be losing validity pretty quickly!

  • 224 Sazzer // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Seize the opportunity to bring two class acts in and our players to play in their right positions.

  • 225 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    …I’ll come bacl later when sanity is restored!

  • 226 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    If Pardew had of been sacked and we had a new manager last night Catchy would have been saying that we played well in the first half because the new manager knew how to get the best out of his players and that we hung on to the lead because the players defended heroically because they wanted to play for the new manager and if Pardew was in charge we would have folded.

  • 227 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    tequilamag

    his subs only made it worse, IMO,, just like many other games, went defensive to hold onto a point

    TorqToon

    rant all you want ,, it you opinion,,not mine,,

    you see one thing ,, i see another

    id rather have players in there best position,, you dont mid as long as there on the pitch,,

    and yes i ment cisse was on the right,,

    and can you honestly tell me and every one else reading this you new what jonas was doing last night?

  • 228 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    TADS – see my post 211

  • 229 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    tads & Torq

    Cisse on the wing is getting pretty frustrating to be honest. I understand Pardew wants to keep his best players on the pitch, but from a defensive point of view it exposes the fullback terribly! He’s absolutely clueless when it comes to working with his fullback (as he should, he’s a CF!)

  • 230 alf // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    As soon as Pardew the worst Manager in the NorthEast comes up against another Manager, that changes his team formations at half time, Pardew falls apart! Watching him leaping around like he had won the Premier league title instead of, scraping 3points off a team heading into the Championship was priceless. Let’s face it he’s toast sooner or later!

  • 231 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Catchy
    You often slate pardew for not “telling the truth” in his interviews, and have said a few times he should grow a pair and speak out against the board, so its okay to expect hom to do it, but heavens forbid that a fcuking player should they should just lie to suit your double standards???

  • 232 Pete Toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    TRANSFER LATEST

    Vitesse Arnhem striker Wilfried Bony, who is rumoured to be a target for Newcastle, could be on the move in the next two hours according to his agent.

    “”In two days I will be looking to complete a deal. In the last three to five days [of the transfer window] there are always more clubs worrying,” Francis Kacou tells Voetbal International

    The 24-year-old, who has scored 33 league goals since the start of 2012, is currently on duty with Ivory Coast.

    MAYBE JUST MAYBE!?!?!

  • 233 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    ToonDownSouth
    post 208 – Gan on giv the moaners some stick. some f***rs never happy unless they can have a moan.
    For F’s sake we won away last night – played some excellent football.

    Come on Chelsea on Saturday – lets get behind the lads and make some noise – blow the new lads socks off with the atmosphere.

  • 234 Beattie25 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Wasn’t going to post today but thought i’d jump on to bang daztoon’s head against a wall.

    Debuchy did NOT make a rash challenge in the box.

    Yes he should have let Agbonlahor get to the ball but that little Villa tw@t nipped in front by a few inches and Debuchy from my view was readying himself for Agbonglahor to back into him.

    Debuchy put his foot down, Agbonglahor stood on Debuchys foot and dived on the ground.

    Yes it could have been avoided but to say it was a rash challenge???

    Ladies and gentlemen today’s cock of the day is….

    Daztoon

  • 235 DokToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    pards or no pards, a win is a win, and much needed at that… very scrappy last 20 minutes or so… but three points is three points…

    why do some continue to complain? back the team, manager included…

    maybe we need some more french cheese with all the whine for some on here…

    great win. im happy, on to SJP for chelsea… love to see a point, dare i hope three more?

  • 236 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Catchy – Jonas was playing as part of a midfield 3 who switch positions 100’s of times throughout the game.

    It would help if you knew what positions our players were capable of playing before moaning about positions. You didn’t even know Yanga has player CM before !!

  • 237 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Beattie – should we make him a t shirt saying as much? Ha

  • 238 Beattie25 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Wow there’s a lot of stupidity on today.

    Blood is boiling and I’ve only read Tequila’s and Daztoon’s posts.

    See you later!

  • 239 LooneyToon41 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    @216 Chanty. Nice find. The most interesting thing is the proposed 75% tax rate for footballers in France. No wonder they want to move to England!

  • 240 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    TDS
    But cisse wasnt supposed to be on the wing, you could see pardew screaming for him to get in the middle and support shola
    Ive said many times cisse is not a fighter and when were up against it he goes missing completly and pops up randomly the only real time i recall seeing him on the right was just after a corner he was near post then ran to RB
    Also he has to expect when part of a rotating front 3 you should be semi flexible every other cf in the league is!

  • 241 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Hahaha, I see catchy’s brain tablets have worn off again. Why don’t people try totally ignoring him? The guy is a total troll, who will never change his position on pardew, no matter what happens now, or in the future. He’s as rigid as the formations he claims the toon play (then contradicts himself and says players were moving around)

  • 242 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Beattie, your an acknowledged expert in stupidity.

  • 243 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Markaccus – You are right! It’s just hard to ignore people when they are blatantly talking outta their @rses !

    Should just leave him to dig himself in deeper…

  • 244 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Got to disagree with you there Beattie,it was a stupid challenge imo,Debuchy was behind him,Agbonlahor was going away from goal towards the touchline,he should have just tracked him and dealt with it if he tried get to the byline

  • 245 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    how is it double stds by saying they both brown nose and say the right thing,,

    id like them both, players and pardew to tell the truth,, but it will never happen,,

    pardew wants to keep his job

    pplayers want to play

  • 246 John Tudor // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    simple test when lower teams or better teams see pardews attempt in 2nd half and how inaffective they were all hell will break loose

  • 247 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Torq
    We should admit defeat each player should have a 20 yard circle around them and for the whole game never ever deviate from the assigned zone

  • 248 LooneyToon41 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    And here’s me dancing and singing all day because of the really important win last night… while other NUFC ‘fans’ are still spewing negativity.

    I honestly just can’t understand it.

    “Looking in the mirror is the most honest thing you can do!”

  • 249 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    I agree with Beatties view of the penalty, certainly nothing rash about it. Agbonlahor was looking for any sort of challenge, and was actually on his way down before they touched. In real time I can see how the ref was conned, but he was conned non-the-less. Debuchy should have let him get there, he was running away from goal, but it was still a cr@p decision.

  • 250 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    TorqToon

    omg your thick,, :)

    just because a player has played there dont mean he is good there

    cisse has plaed as a right winger for us, many times,, does it mean he is good at it

    and you are making yourself sound stupid,, jonas was part of a 3 man MF that rotated 100% of the time,,

    now where is the shape in that? who covers what?,, mind you it goes along way to expplaining why we are poor,, no one has a job,, pardews total football

  • 251 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    TADS – Sounds like a plan mate! :-)

  • 252 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    how was it a rash chalenge??

    did he go sliding in ? no

    did he kick out ? no

    there was a 50/50 ball to be won, a shoulder charge and that is it,, not one of them had control of the ball, they were both going for it

  • 253 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Catchy, Tevez Rooney Ronaldo never drift wide do they ? It`s called movement to drag defenders out of position. Shearer was a great crosser of the ball, sadly we was never quick enough to get on the end of his own crosses.

  • 254 alf // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Pardew even managed to surpass his stupidity by playing Mbia in centre midfield

  • 255 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Great idea tads,we can call it the”ZoneBall” system,maybe we can fit the players with special collars wired up to a button each fan has,if they stray out of the zone they get a mild electric shock 50,000 times.Problem solved.

  • 256 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Imagine that….me and catchy having a discussion and IM the one sounding thick?!

    100’s catchy – – – not 100% !!

    Just because your football manager game says they only play 1 position doesn’t make it true.

    By the way…nice touch with the insults mate – just shows the embarrassment you must be feeling as people realise just how LITTLE you know about football.

  • 257 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Catchy.I think i explained that clearly in my post.

  • 258 magpiemover // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    FIRST HALF WE WERE GREAT SECOND SHOCKING ALLAN PARDEW IS THE MOST NEGATIVE MANAGER WE HAD SINCE KENNY DALGISH

  • 259 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Alf – That’s quite a trick seeing as Mbia plays for QPR!!

  • 260 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Jonas played in the front 3, not the midfield 3. Yanga is a player with more than one recognised position, all good players are like that these days. Just because CB is considered his ‘best’ position, doesn’t mean he is BAD in other positions. Old example of this. Barry Venison. A CB, but often played in front of the back 4, and regularly killed opposition attackers. He was good in both positions.

  • 261 Shot Bru // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    alf …Pardew would have had a tough job playing Mbia in CM…..he was playing for QPR last night..

  • 262 magpiemover // Jan 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    and i go to every away game villa were there for the taking and pardew bottled it for me

  • 263 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Shot Bru – It’s painstaking ain’t it?

  • 264 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    MrMojoRisin76
    Good idea, i was thinking land mines but your idea is probably a bit better think the game would flow more!

    Catchy
    Ba and torres drift wide, drop deep rotate all game same with RVP rooney hernandez and welbeck, same as giroud at arsenal with walcott and cordoza, same with downing suarez and sturridge
    I could go on but it seems pointless

  • 265 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Taxi for alf.

  • 266 magpiemover // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    another thing pardew has to make 3 subs every game . and that is what a sunday league manager does

  • 267 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    IF YOU TYPE IN CAPITALS PEOPLE WILL AGREE WITH YOU

  • 268 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    tequilamag

    these players you have just mentioned,, are class, and there all in different teams,,

    even if you look at barcas team,, you know where they all play, there is only messi that floats,,

    our team have no shape at all, no set way to play,
    set plays are beyond a joke now,, insted of williamson, they lumped to sissoko , :(

  • 269 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Catchy it was a rash challenge because there was no need to make a challenge . It was edge of the box and both players were moving away from goal. If he had waited for even a tenth of a second they would have been out of the box.

  • 270 toonLYF // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    seeing as he hasn’t been discussed much, i’d like to say i think Debuchy was one of our best players in the first half, he’s a composed and intelligent player, with a good pass and a great workrate. He’s a real attacking danger when he’s running toward the final 3rd, and by the looks of it, can put a very good cross in. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a few assists before the season is up. Impressive and solid start to his Newcastle career.

    (also, any RB in the league would struggle to keep up with Agbonlahor, so don’t worry, Debuchy is quick enough!)

  • 271 sweendog // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    magpiemover .. what about allardyce .. far worse than Pardew..

  • 272 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Hang on…..Messi floats??? So he has not true position???

    What an awful player….!!! Where is his designated area??

  • 273 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Catchy it is irrelevant who they play for, It`s normal in modern day football for players to be able to do more than one thing. Are you saying Cisse is not a class player ?

  • 274 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    please tell me that again

    all those players are forwards,, and that is part of that roll, you can play as a target man or drop deep

    how is playing 3 MF that rotate 100% the same? please explain

  • 275 daztoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    @Beattie25
    I think you just proved yourself to be a cock little lady how could you know that he thought he might back into him.Yes it was a debatable penalty but he stuck a foot out which the Villa player took advantage over numpty.The player was running away from goal no need to make any challange

  • 276 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Torq. If you think that was painstaking check this little gem out,somebody posted it when the team news came out.

    Im calling it now, we have lost this 3-1 the players will turn against Pardew Im telling you, no pace on the bench, a non match fit Saylor when Pardew recently started Ben Arfa and thats the reason hes been out for over 2 months now. He will have to go for me and for our good, if we ever want to see good footie at all with this clown. Where is Obertan on the bench? why the F8**k is Anita on the bench? £6 million signing on bench for Perch championship player???? what the hell???

    FYI, Pardew has a session with Jonas once a day both of them sucking each other off. This is why he is un-droppable.

    I nearly shat my pants in disbelief when i saw this.

  • 277 sweendog // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    toonLYF .. agreed .. I think debuchy looks excellent .. except for getting beat by the pace of aggie-bong-le-whoer

  • 278 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Alf even managed to surpass his own stupidity by not knowing the difference between Mbiwa and Mbia
    *cough *cough mackem

  • 279 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Lol @ all the fans STILL moaning after we just beat our relegation rivals away from home

  • 280 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    tequilamag

    cisse is a good finisher, crap winger, prob even worse defender, and god knows what he is like in goal

    are you happy to field a team of our best players in what ever positions?

  • 281 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    It’s worth saying that Perch was fantastic again last night. One of our most consistent and reliable players now in my opinion.

  • 282 sweendog // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    I think people need to get a grip .. lets see what Pardews like with a good squad .. we now have one of the best in the league .. a win against Chelsea maybe the doubters will go away .. importantly I think we need to attack chelsea .. same formation as villa 1st half ..only difference is maybe anita instead of perch .. seeing as we’re at home and chelsea aren’t too physical

  • 283 Markaccus // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Catchy! Jonas and goofy were in the front 3, not in midfield! Sissoko,cabaye and perch were the midfield 3, and they had pretty clear cut jobs! You really are a total scatter-brain!

  • 284 hadthetshirt // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    A few of you seem to think Cisse is a striker????
    Well please tall that numpty manager that,as he seems to think he’s a right winger grrrrrrr
    Oh and that jonas cuddle at the end made me feel like throwing up,maybe that’s Colo’s issue.Play my mate or I’m off.

  • 285 sweendog // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    ToonDownSouth ..agreed .. until he ran out of puff

  • 286 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Catchy I give credit to our players for being more versatile than you would have us believe. In the past you have criticised Pardew always playing the same rigid formation. You can`t have it both ways

  • 287 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Mojo – That is truly ridiculous!! I honestly don’t know if people are just thick, ill-informed, 8yrs old or Makems!!

    But some people don’t have a CLUE what they are talking about! It baffles me mate! :-)

  • 288 geordiefromthemidlands // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    The moment you look at the blog to catch up after a vital 3pts last night and you realise the footballing geniuses are out in full force. And here’s me thinking that ths day time blog was safe with all the bairns in school.

  • 289 colwell // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Our only weak link yesterday was Jonas, every time the ball went too him our play slowed right down. Gouffran played well didn’t get any balls too run onto but kept the ball well and won headers.

    What did surprise is even though Jonas was playing poorly and had been booked taking sissoko and Gouffran off instead didn’t make sense? Either way a we won thank f@ck for that.

  • 290 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Geordie – it’s been ridiculous mate!

    What did I say last night – the daytime will be better as the decent bloggers were on???

    That was until catchy and alf appeared!!

  • 291 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Catchy
    Since when is gouffran a midfielder?? And jonas is a winger, which is a forward, and the point being is that all forwards drop onto the wings so why the fcuk shouldnt cisse if he’s playing as part of a front 3???

  • 292 Spreadthetoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    I’d like to wade into the debate re: Cisse.

    I feel that when Cisse is designated on the flank his skills and use are virtually redundant. And yes AP does play players out of place which does infuriate me. Personally I thought the use of Mapou in DM was the wrong choice but that’s just my opinion.
    As for Cisse, he may have drifted wide to the right but that was probably to create some space for himself…….and guess what he scored from the right! Cisse had a free role upfront to place himself wherever he liked last night so I do not see this argument that he was designated right! Jonas and Gouffran were on the flanks with Sissoko in the central role, Cisse was playing upfront on his own. Well that’s the way I saw it last night unless I am missing something?

  • 293 Shot Bru // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Too True Torq….i suppose in alf’s defence he does have the affliction of being a mackem ;-)

  • 294 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Does anyone remember the goal Cisse scored against Chelsea last year when he picked it up wide left ? Not too shabby as I recall.

  • 295 faustino // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Nice to see the utter bellends who have ruined this site are out in force as usual.

    You show me a Premiership manager that wouldn’t set out to defend a two goal lead in the second half? You show me a manager who, when his team hadn’t won away in any competition ALL SEASON, wouldn’t have been cautious?

    Only hiccup occurred because they spawned a flukey penalty which tbh other than a couple of scares that we dealt with admirably, was the only danger they posed in 90- mins. Remember children, they are no easy away days in the Premier league – especially not given our current form.

    In the first half we were spot-on and occasionally sublime and showed we have something to build on. Imagine if Hatem had been on the field instead of Jonas? Pardew set us up to win the game and then in turn, to make sure we didn’t lose and he succeeded. End of story. Let it go.

    Regardless of how many new players we have, we are near to bottom of the league and needed points not goals. Villa are NOT a poor side, with Beteke, Agbonlahor and N’Zogbia alongside a couple of their new lads they can be really dangerous. (That said, if they hadn’t have nicked the penalty, or if we’d have nicked a third in the first half it would have been an entirely different game.) For chirst’s sake we played so well, we had fans walking out after 33 minutes!

    With all this in mind, to hear some of the whinging is pathetic.

    You can’t ignore the first half just to serve your miserable online ramblings, otherwise you have to ignore the second half. Neither were freak occurrences. They were both part and parcel of Premier league football – a league that saw QPR beat Chelsea just the other week, as well Villa beating Liverpool at their place before losing everything, ever since.

    If you want perfect football and things your own way, stay on your consoles/pcs boys. That’s obviously where you’ve picked up your bad habits – cos it doesn’t sound like you’ve picked them up on the Terraces.

    Support the team, support the players, support the manager and especially support the win. HWTL

  • 296 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Well said Faustino !!

  • 297 Spreadthetoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Faustino
    Wise words

  • 298 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    I know a lot of you have probably seen this,but with Chelsea coming up and Cisse scoring again,i think it’s relevant
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AWgtaZ6L8A

  • 299 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    tequilamag

    you wont find on here or anywhere that i have said he plays rigid formations,,

    i never ever get involved in he should play 442, or 433, i have only said when asked by ibiza and tds or tads what team i would have played,,

    im not one of these who sit and draw up formations and say we should sing messi and play him here,,

    i base all my arguments on what we have at the club, and what i think they should be achieving,,

    at the start of the season i siad we had a squad that was good enough for top 8, and i 100% stand by that,,

    i think we have lost more points through pardew lumping the ball long, than having a thin squad

    i have went back and looked at every game we have played this season, and we dropped some crazzy points against teams like villa at home, west ham swansea stoke and southampton,, even last week , our team was better than readings,,
    this is tactics and man managment to me,, not weak squads

  • 300 Spreadthetoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Afternoon Torq

    Have you had your conference call bud?…..Any noises?

  • 301 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Afternoon spread – am waiting on it now. Was expecting it at around 3ish but must be delayed.

  • 302 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Torq

    Any update on PEA?

    Also has anyone heard about Bony…could he be coming our way?

  • 303 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Do you think bony would be allowed to travel from south africa for his medical?

  • 304 Grafton83 // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Yeah that’s all very nice Faustino but if we’d have been playing anyone but Villa we wouldn’t have hung on to our lead for the full 90. For me I think its perfectly justified to worry about Pardews management when we looked so good in the first half and then almost threw it all away in the second.

    Even the most novice managers know that its suicide to stick all your players behind the ball and offer no threat on the counter. Shola spent half his time at CB towards the end. It’s not how you see teams of similar quality close out games.

    For me Pardew still has a lot to prove and the second half did nothing to allay those fears.

  • 305 Transfer Sage // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Also…i wasnt aware of this but sure plenty of you were.

    Moses plays for ivory coast…I thought he was going to choose england.

    Means chelsea without hazard and moses for our game which can only be a good thing as they have both been good this year.

  • 306 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Catchy I CBA to trawl through previous threads to find examples to prove you wrong as everytime I present you with evidence you change the subject to a different complaint. I have tried to engage with you on so many occasions but find it a pointless exercise as your mind is closed to anything but relentless criticism. I sincerely hope when you come over here in Feb you get to go to a game at SJP and rediscover your love for Newcastle as you seem to be trapped in a cycle of negativity.

  • 307 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I am from SA it takes a full 13 hours to be anywhere in europe so if so he had to do it today flights for europe from here are at night …

  • 308 Scouse_geordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Gonufc-are you crazy? A lot of people are coming out with similar comments, so I’m guessing its contagious. Our subs didn’t change the game, villas did.

    we were comfortable first half because they had no outlet other than betenke. Once they brought on Gabby and wiesman it gave them width and pace, which pulled our full backs wide and created space in the middle. From the min the second half started, they had the impetus, they had the drive.

    We were always gonna struggle to get hold of the game after that, especially after reading.so the changes Pardew did made sense. sissoko and gouff were never lasting a full game at that tempo, and mbiwa had played dm lots of times.anita was allowed to chase in the middle as they were only only playing long balls and then Ameobi could sit and Marshall benteke.

    As for cisse, when he was moved to the right we weren’t looking to score.it was to try and keep some shape, and to stop their left back doubling up on debuchy with Gabby, after all pardew can only make 3 changes and who else could he move wide….Ameobi?

    Thus isn’t football manager and games have momentum and sometimes you have to accept that and try to absorb it.at the end if the day we only conceded through a penalty and we got all 3 points, far a I’m concerned, job well done.

  • 309 Pete Toon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Moses plays for Nigeria

    Bony is on the move but no one knows where…

  • 310 DokToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    faustino @ 295…

    well said, well effin said!!

  • 311 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    tequilamag

    i have not falling out of love with my team, and never will,

    i just dont like the direction our club is going under pardew,,

    and when i do come over , i would rather go and watch the reservs play,

    newcastle is my team,, but i like football, we dont play football,

    our squad is amazing, we ahve so many options, but pardew carnt or wont see it,,

    while the likes of jonas perch shola are in and around the first team , we will get no where

  • 312 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Catchy anyone who says they want us to lose(even if the reason is that you think it will hasten the sacking of a manager they don`t like) is not showing love for Newcastle.

  • 313 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Anyone else just laugh at QPR? Redknapp whinging they dont have enough players yet he’s still letting players leave left right and center!! Faurlin is now being loaned out to palmero, which is crazy he’s one of there better players!

  • 314 King // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    @JackButler, you mentioned that Newcastle had most of it’s players back, but with Tiote still gone in the African Cup, and Ben Arfa still 2-3 weeks out I’d say we are still missing some key components. I don’t blame Pardew for all of this, I blame Ashley. I love the signings that we made in January, but those should have come in July. This team was too weak, and thin to survive through all of the cup/euro/league matches.

    Pardew could have done better, but part of this mess can be heaped directly onto Ashley’s desk. As long as we avoid relegation I don’t see Ashley letting go of Pardew.

  • 315 check the toastie // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Perchy had a good game eh, always does, god bless him, love the lad to bits, but he shouldnt play in front of Anita, narrow minded thinking.

    Everybody played well, barring Jonas and Shola who were as normal shite.

    Anyone think it might not be such a bad idea loosing Collo in Summer, personally think he might have lost it a bit currently, may have just got the best years out of him.

  • 316 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Tads, weird eyes has lost the plot. The slagging he is giving his own players is not going to inspire them to play for him.

  • 317 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Bony – Very active. All the talk is about us picking up this lad. Some have heard we have already had a bid accepted bit can’t confirm that to be 100% true just yet.

    PEA – Seems unlikely. BUT we have lodged a firm interest in him. I feel we are maybe putting down the groundwork for a summer bid rather than going into it now. But it’s all dependant on figures really – should the price be right – anything can happen. St. Ettienne have been informed that they may be ‘busy’ in the next 24hrs or so.

    We DO have delegates still out in Europe (France and Spain) and they are still going about working on targets. There’s not long left of this window – but it is possible. Medicals can even be taken at the ACON by designated medical staff.

    Hell I’ll travel there myself if need be!!! :-)

    Sketchy talk that we were ‘offered’ belhanda from Montpellier. They are desperate to sell him, fenerbahce have had bid accepted but he would rather come to the prem. However I don’t believe it has come to anything and he will end up in Turkey.

  • 318 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Evertons deal to sign leroy fer has fallen through!!!
    Problem raised by yhe medical meant everton wanted to change the payment structure twente were having none of it!
    Shame for them he’s a cracking talent

  • 319 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    check

    Definitely, I’m sure Mbiwa is a long term replacement rather than partner for Colo. If so, well done to the club for being prepared for once.

  • 320 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Only Messi floats in barca’s team???!!! Shaking my head at that Catchy.

    You also claim that people were played out of position, but you wanted Anita in for Perch? Then had Cabaye been unable to complete the game, we had no like for like replacement, and it would have been Perch for Cabaye potentially. The exact type of change you slated Pardew for a week ago.

    Not being funny or owt, but if Pardew had started with the team you wanted, we would have had no chance of filling round holes with round pegs, an the “defensive” substitutions would have given the likes of you a field day. As it happens, Cabaye managed to do it.

    Benteke started to drift onto Debuchy and was killing him in the air. Agbonlahor doubled up so that they had pace and power. Shola came on and won several headers and at least made it hard for Benteke. Debuchy then tried to nullify Agbonlahor. It worked, because we didn’t concede against an aerial bombardment.

    We also couldn’t get control in midfield as they were kicking lumps out of us. Tactically it couldn’t have gone better as we played great stuff then rolled our sleeves up. We were a cheap penalty away from having the perfect night.

    Pardew gets killed for defensive substitutions and then next game he gets stick fr leaving no creativity on the bench? Come on, be fair.

  • 321 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    tequilamag

    i dissagree

    sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omlete (lmao sorry)

    the sad part is, this has been all season,, and all most of you do is back up his excuses,,
    any other manager would be gone, this is a worse season than when we went down,, ppl where screaming for JFK to be sacked
    thats double stds
    ppl did want fat sam for his long ball football, we have pardew who plays it, thats double stds

    his track record suggests he is poor, the football we watch is poor, we are poor,

  • 322 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    So the deal for Leroy Fer is off then?

    Cracking player him, like!

  • 323 bollance // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    TADS

    Selling clubs and agents will be able to make a killing out of QPR’s desperation. Or maybe that is the plan.. more cash in the back pocket.

    The more deals Harry brokers the more black money will end up in his back pocket..

    Lets hope he gets greedy and ends up selling all his players and has to fill his bench with ‘keepers!

  • 324 nightfa11 // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    i think our best line up at the moment is:

    krul
    debuchy colo taylor mbiwa

    anita cabaye sissoko

    goufrann cisse santon

    jonas shouldnt be starting..mbiwa should..leaving him on the bench & wait for colo & taylor to get injured or booked is a waste.. santon is not the best defender, but could do jonass job 5x better..
    & having anita cabaye & sissoko in midfield..who are all box to box midfielders would be even more difficult to mark..they could all switch places in dm acm role..

  • 325 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Catchy, it`s all about opinions. You think the ends justify the means re losing games but the chances are that losing those games could end in relegation. At a time when we are still in a relegation battle it seems crazy to me that you would persist in trying to justify that position.

  • 326 Scouse_geordie // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Check_ so against a team that Crosses alot and plays more long ball than us you would play a player barely above 5.4? Some games require other players/tactics not just who you think is better

    And Ameobi didn’t start but did a massive job winning stuff at the back.face it Jonas cleared a chance that was going in for them to equalize, basically ensuring we got three points but you can’t see past your dislike for the player

  • 327 BigKirky // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Thanks for the update Torq. It’s always very appreciated reading your knowledge sharing posts.

  • 328 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    off home

    its been a long day :(

    3 points where great,,

    lets see in 5 games time

  • 329 Tinman // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    I thought Debuchy was very good bar his one big mistake, even though it was a soft penalty it was still a stupid challenge.

    Thought the decision to bring Mbiwa on in midfield was a strange one, he looked scared on the ball, it was his debut, playing out of position, we were massively under the cosh. Should have just told him to go and slot in beside Colo or Taylor and play 5 at the back for the last 10 or so mins he got.

  • 330 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    tequilamag

    not many ppl i know like backing loosers

    i know he thinks he is a winner,, but he is a looooooser

  • 331 Kazzy // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfer-news-ivory-coast-1563757?
    Wilfired Bony to Newcastle ???

  • 332 Munster Mag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Gotta say, the boy Sissoko is a monster. Or, er is that racist? :)

  • 333 catchy in norway // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Scouse_geordie

    you hit the nail on the head,,

    other players and other tactics

    not the same players in different positions

    didnt pardew say horses for corses ,, hmmmmm

  • 334 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Catchy , go home have a beer and be grateful we got 3 points. It could be worse you could have been born in Sunderland.

  • 335 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Kirky – That’s very much appreciated my friend.

    If I hear more I will ensure I will let you all know.

  • 336 Spreadthetoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Torq
    Leeroy Fer sadly appears to have a knee issue. You’ve gotta feel for the player when their own hopes are dashed as well as Everton fans.

    Belhanda would be sublime and I would not rule this out given our miss out on Florian Thauvin that option may become active at the last minute.

    We definitely need a striker and a winger IMO whether that be now or in the summer, another CB and I think we would have enough cover across the field. Interesting news anyway Torq, thanks v. much for sharing your snippets and thoughts!

  • 337 bollance // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Tinman

    The problem with MYM was that he did not know his role when he came on because of the language barrier. But yes he was given a difficult task to come on in the second half where we were clearing the ball too often to Shola who has lost his edge and could not keep the ball up front.

    MYM did however make a goal saving tackle to give us the win.

    The situation, pace of the game and the way the team where playing made life difficult for him.

  • 338 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Munster
    Why would that make you a racist?

  • 339 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Tads it was the non footballing discussion of the day as to whether the word beast was part of the racist lexicon.

  • 340 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    TADS – Did you miss it?? Apparently we can’t call ANY player a ‘beast’ now because it has racial connotations !

    …this is only according to 1 person mind you…!

  • 341 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Chelsea make enquiry for Butland but he has no intention of joining.Great to see a player putting his career before money,especially when he’s so young.

  • 342 geordiefromthemidlands // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Beast beast beast beast beeeeeeeeeassssssstttt.
    Sorry had to get it out my system

  • 343 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Munster….I think as monster is almost the same as your username it’s okay, otherwise it’s well out of order :)

    People of the blog….Looks like you’ve all been having fun since I left, we did win last night didn’t we?

  • 344 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Torq
    What? Really? Im sorry but that is fcuking patchetic! How is it? Who was this tool?

  • 345 Spreadthetoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Torq
    Who came up with that kind of censorship? Seems crazy to me…..any other politically correct terminology that we need to address on the blog? Cannot believe people see the worst in other people’s comments even when there is no intention of offense. Surely we’re all hear to talk football, politics and religion have no place here, as Ed has always stated.

  • 346 boater // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    People watching games from miles away on an illegal stream threatening to ‘not support’ or ‘not go to games when they (hypothetically and some distant point in the future) come over’ is embarrassing and an insult to the supporters who pay to go and get behind the team each week.

  • 347 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    tads…Tool? Pretty sure that’s offensive towards tool kits or something along those lines. Proceed with caution.

  • 348 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Spread – Yeah it’s a shame for all parties! A good player loses his chance.

    Belhanda would be nice – however I think he will go to turkey, which is a shame for the lad as he is very good friends with Gouffran and Mbiwa.

    Would love for a suprise on dealine day with another forward coming in – and I guess in 24hrs or so we will know.

  • 349 geordiefromthemidlands // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Torq I hope we get bony sneak attack signing from ACON is our M.O but we are leaving it late

  • 350 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    The windows looking lively for tomos might have to pull a sicky from work for deadline day ;)
    Fulham have signed emanulson from AC Milan on loan, some great players joining the league
    But some great ones leaving to bit gutted to see ballotelli going good entertainment that lad!

  • 351 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    And i find the word Ibiza pretty offensive also,reminds me of the disturbing time i had a threesome with Swedish blonds on holiday.

  • 352 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    TADS / Spread

    I’m not sure who it was, but didn’t recognise him, and he hasn’t returned since playing the race card for no reason! Was truly pathetic! As you say, this is no place for religious views or any kind of racial issues. I stated at the time that this blog is very well ‘policed’ by the regular posters ie when ‘Ameobi’ started joking around about Rape being comical in wake of the Ranger arrest. We all sorted that joker out ourselves.

    This blog is very good at that sort of thing.

  • 353 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Ibiza
    Your right, why didnt i think, ive managed to p1ss my socket set right off now its not easy to calm down an angry socket set!!

  • 354 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Mojo….Not sure I want to know what the disturbing part of that was, so I’ll just take your word on it. From this day the use of the word Ibiza shall be banished from the blog.

    It’s going to make it hard for me to post. What is the punishment for breaking this new rule?

  • 355 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    MrMojo
    Are you implying all sweedish girls are sex hungry? Very discriminative……..

  • 356 hotdog // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    CATCHY – Look mate you are obviously not gonna change your view of Pardew and that is fair enough. However you are a supporter of Newcastle United are you not? so just try to support the team in difficult times. If we get relegated or have another poor season next season then start shouting about it. Until then back the team and that includes Pardew im afraid!

  • 357 Spreadthetoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Torq
    I never thought in all my wildest dreams that we would have a chance of landing a player like Belhanda.
    Even if there is a remotest possibility I hope MA flies over offers him some good quality ethnic food and lets him win on Fifa 13! Gotta have some legs on it especially given the volume of players. €8m would be fair and I could see his value only go up in the premiership…… he’s quality and of the same mould as HBA! Would make that my priority signing!!

  • 358 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    For the record my username is not meant to be offensive to people who do not drink. I would also like to point out that if you do drink I am not saying Tequila is better or worse than other forms of booze.

  • 359 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    tads…I’d be more worried about my saw that’s on it’s way to the UK to hunt you down.

    I hope my name doesn’t appear on this post or I’m going to be in deep potch.

  • 360 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    I didn’t say they were girls….

  • 361 hotdog // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Ibiza- Alright mate – If your ever in the trenches make sure you have “Krul to be Kind”. I was posting last night during the match and people were literally throwing wobblers whilst he was calm in the face of an onslaught from Villa. I was howling at the posts from 1st half to 2nd take a look if you get a chance :-)

  • 362 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Demba’s reception should be interesting eh lads? Might be a bit warm at SJP this weekend!!

  • 363 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Mojo is being offensive towards men! Men! We’re men (well, I assume the majority are anyway), we should be offended…get him out of here…quickly.

    Is using the word quickly offensive to people who are slow?

    I’m thinking we should probably move on now, you all know I wont drop this joke anytime soon without some help.

  • 364 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Whilst were being racist and discriminating against anyone and everyone i’d like to say SSN needs a serious overhaul!!! Poor old kirsty gallager is looking a bit worse for wear these days, greasy hair, pasty skin and her t1ts now look like socks with a scoop of sand in them!
    C’mon sky sort it out get some talent signed up ;)

  • 365 bollance // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    On topic

    If Pards continues to pick up the same number of points at the same rate we will end the season with 19 more points and a total of 43.

    Last season 43 points acheived 15th place, 7 points above relegation.

    Last night was a big step towards survival!

  • 366 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Ok i’ll go,but i won’t go quietly.NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • 367 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Hotdog…I shall look in to it…I’m intrigued :) Love a poster who stays calm in the face of ultimate doom and gloom.

  • 368 BelfastMagpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Any transfer gossip today then ??

    Still hoping we sign a striker like, really daft if we don’t.

  • 369 toonarmydownsouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    MrMojo
    Are sweedish men sex crazed threeway animals aswell then?

  • 370 tequilamag // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Belfast, I can confirm Wes Hoolahan will not be signing today.

  • 371 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Bollance…Last nights 3 points were huge, never mind how we got them. I’m a happy magpie :)

    Mojo…Be quiet or we’ll have you put down, don’t say you weren’t warned…we have our ways….apparently.

  • 372 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Just when I thought it was safe…

    Hello Belfast!

  • 373 davybtoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    i still think we need another striker in think gouffran would of happened even if remy signed

  • 374 bollance // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Ibiza

    Haha.. today has been a much better day!

  • 375 BelfastMagpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    We badly need a striker. Sorry to the Ameobi lovers, but he wouldn’t even be my plan z, never mind plan b lol

  • 376 hotdog // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    TADS – socks with a scoop of sand in them! haha :-)

    Right quick look today im off to try and emulate Cabaye’s beauty @ 5 a side ;-)

  • 377 BelfastMagpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Ibiza i’ve already told you, I’m straight with two kids & a missus, so please groom somebody else you pervert.

    Beast !!!

  • 378 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    On an incoming striker…I’d love it to happen now, but if it doesn’t I don’t think we can say it was down to a lack of effort. The club has clearly been busy and to use Pardews words “aggressive” in the transfer market.

    Bollance…Indeed. Must admit I was in a state of shock by the final whistle. Happy with the 3 points but unable to muster up any sense to really enjoy the moment.

  • 379 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Ok balearictoon you win,i will pipe down.
    Tads. Swedish men are beasts.

  • 380 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Belfast…But you were coming along so nicely, would be a shame to throw away all of that hard work.

    Beauty!!!

  • 381 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Mojo… :)

  • 382 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Well the 1st 2 were anyway,the 3rd was “apprehensive”

  • 383 ToonDownSouth // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Pretty sure that 40 point will not be required to stay up his season.

    I’d imagine more like 35.

  • 384 BelfastMagpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Well i’m away back under the my rock. Should be back for tomorrows madness. ;)

    Everybody remember it’s bums to the wall when Ibiza’s hanging around.

  • 385 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    I think i’ve found out a way to stop us all arguing,just don’t mention football.Does anybody know any good sea shanty’s?

  • 386 Dannyo // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    @TDS
    Agreed, but I’d want us to pass 50, so maybe we can get into top 10. Also, I want to win the EL, so we can have more europe next year.

    I’m not demanding to much am I? ;)

  • 387 BelfastMagpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    My the rock?? lol

    Goodbye to everyone, apart from Jimmy Ibiza toon Saville….

    ;)

  • 388 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    QPR have triggered Samba’s release clause apparently over 10m! what a joke arry is

  • 389 sirtoongospel // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    TDS I agree. 4 more wins and we are going to be fine.

  • 390 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Why is Belfast saying goodbye to everyone?

  • 391 Super Magpie // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Delighted with yesterday’s result. Most important result of the season for me. 1st half we were unplayable and looks like the team we can be. Two different but great goals. 2nd half we were under the cosh and we held on (just). Krul was excellent in the 2nd half and it was his best performance of the season.

    Sissoko impressed as did Gouffran when he got on the ball. M’Biwa made a life saving tackle and for all the stick Jonas gets, he cleared a goalbound header too. The only negative was the constant hoofing which was tense to say the least. You could see Pardew getting annoyed with it too so he can’t be blamed.

    We looked like a team too. You could see that we were desperate to cling on and you could see after the final whistle when the players grouped together. What we need to do now is play for 90 minutes.
    I had a feeling going into HT at 2-0 would make us sit back. It’s a strange scoreline because you don’t know whether to gamble for the third or not. They came out, got a fortunate penalty. It was a clear dive for me. Agbonlahor stood on Debuchy meaning it should’ve been our free kick. Insomnia should’ve been off too.

    But hey, we won. That’s all that matters. First away win since Chelsea last season. First win of 2013. New players settling in quickly. Suddenly things look positive again. It could quickly change in two weeks with Chelsea and Spurs. I’m expecting 1pt at the most but would be delighted with anymore than that.

  • 392 Beattie25 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Torq

    Please, please, please tell me that NUFC will sign Belhanda!

    Even if your’e lying to me, just say it!

  • 393 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    …so, 38 games won out of 101! hmm (

  • 394 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Belfast…Are you mixing up the letter c with r?

    Missing you already x

  • 395 bollance // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    After this winter window we should be optimistic for the summer. It does not take a genius to work out the squad still needs surgery (not a reference to the number of injuries we have had this season).

    We have been let down by too many players in the current squad who have been given a chance. Yes, we did not make wholesale changes because there was lots of faith in a squad who on the whole finished 5th last season.

    I would sell at least 10.. anyone agree?

  • 396 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Bollance…I can’t think of 10 I’d want to sell. I can definitely see a fair few outgoing loans though with the younger lads. Let’s see what they can do with some constant football before getting rid, it’s not like they’ll generate a load of cash to buy new players with.

    Who were you thinking of in particular?

  • 397 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Jesper…How you doing? Not too upbeat?

  • 398 Beattie25 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    bollance

    We still need 1 or 2 this window to steer clear of the drop.

    In the Summer we should sell a few and bring in 1 or 2 first team players and spend lot’s on youth development/players.

    If we fail to strengthen that forward line and left wing, we may sell a lot more than 10.

  • 399 toonLYF // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    M’biwa’s tackle at the end was nothing short of terrific imo. As good as Sissoko’s pass and as good as Cabaye’s goal. Incredibly athletic as when the shot was being lined up he was out the picture, and he seemed to soar through the middle of the box and throw himself to the floor, outstanding defending. Cheers Mapou.

  • 400 MrMojoRisin76 // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    I wonder if the dude who washed Demba Ba’s car is waiting for him to get his £40 back on Saturday.

  • 401 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    LYF…It was so quick I had to watch the replays to figure out who it was. Bloody good effort.

    I though all of the new signings gave a really good showing tbh. Just what the team needed.

    Beattie…Please don’t tell me to expect you going into exile if we don’t get a new striker and winger this window.

  • 402 bollance // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Keep

    Krul
    Santon
    Debuchy
    MYM
    Cabaye
    HBA
    Sissoko
    Gouffran
    Hairdryer
    Perch (only as DM)
    Anita

    Wait and see

    Saylor (injuries)
    Colo (wants to stay / old)
    Marv (consistancy)
    Cisse (form)
    Tiote (big wage / form)

    Get rid

    Simo
    Raylor
    Guti
    Gosling
    Harper (age)
    Ameobi 1
    Ameobi 2
    Obertan
    Xisco
    Ranger

    Loan

    All youngerster where possible

  • 403 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Ibiza…last night was a tough one to swallow (but then again I didn’t really think all thst would change just because we had bought a few players) :-)

    …we are a one half team lol

  • 404 Barras // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Liverpool have signed Coutinho. I don’t know a great deal about the player, but he seems to be a very flamboyant player who has great ball control.

    Is there any news on incoming players for Newcastle United?

    It is my view that we are not genuinely interested in signing Bony, I think his agent is just desperately trying to generate interest from us and maybe other clubs as well.

  • 405 davybtoon // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    beattie i agree think we should get 1 or 2 more players in now n then in the summer we would only need 2/3 players in

  • 406 toonicle // Jan 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    I get worked up when Pardew continues to start an obviously sub par Guti and continues to make silly sub choices. I’m not saying sack him because that wouldn’t help but I really wish he would just learn his lesson one of these days. Sitting back in the second half and inviting pressure is bad tactics and yet game after game that is what we do, first half is great flowing football and second half is panicky rushed hoofball to the tallest man you can see on the other side of the halfway line. I’m really hoping we string another win or two together and then maybe Pards will get less nervous about losing and stop palying so overly defensive in the second half.

  • 407 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Jesper…I think a lot of people were expecting a bit too much tbh. Confidence is shattered and the fact they can play even one half as well as they did is a testament to the desire to turn things around. I think given time things will be back on track.

    Bollance…That’s pretty radical there mate :)

    Of your get rid list I’d agree with

    Simo – He’s going anyway.
    Gosling – Worth a punt, but it doesn’t appear to have worked out.
    Xisco – He’s going anyway – Yipppeeee
    Ranger

    As for the rest, I think we need them for depth tbh. Sammy should go out on loan before we sell. No point getting rid of Shola at this point, but let’s make sure we have better options available.

  • 408 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Ibiza…first half was a great display (I remember thinking at half time please don’t fu€k it up :-))

  • 409 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Jesper…You weren’t alone in that thinking at half time.

    A little “It’s always sunny” update…on season 6, thoroughly enjoying it :)

  • 410 TorqToon // Jan 30, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Beattie – NEWCASTLE UTD SIGN BELHANDA ON 5 YEAR DEAL!!!!!!

    How was that?? Huge lie…but it was nice to write! Let just see where this one takes us. Still possible but quick work is needed. :-)

  • 411 bzak12 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    Ibazatoon what have you done with Rebbecca?

  • 412 Bowzer912 // Jan 30, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Put in bids for Gomis and Suleymani/Boudebouz as they’re out of contract and so 5-7m for Gomis and 2-4 for Suleymani
    Thoughts?

  • 413 karasu // Jan 31, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    think we should sign agbonlahor in the summer if villa goes down. ive always rated him as a player. relegated sides usually have to sell their stars cheap as well. plus agbonlahor is english so it can help our home-grown quota.




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